/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.19364254]

What went wrong with Japan?

[Anonymous No.19364296]

>>19364254
not sure too much pressure on everybody? But why is there so much pressure?

[Anonymous No.19364301]

>>19364254
Their economy has been Justed since the 90's

[Anonymous No.19364311]

>>19364254
Massive workforce gap due to enormous barriers for immigrant workers and an aging population in combination with a very demanding culture

https://www.businessinsider.nl/what-is-karoshi-japanese-word-for-death-by-overwork-2017-10?international=true&r=US

[Anonymous No.19364313]

They lost the war

[Anonymous No.19364318]

>>19364254
I don't know why don't you continue spamming every board with this shitty topic attention whore

[Anonymous No.19364325]

Crazy how hard you're expected to work in Japan. The average fat fuck American wouldn't make it a week. Not that living in a culture where working until you collapse is good but just an observation.

[Anonymous No.19364338]

>>19364325
Basically this, their quality of life is no different from the West. They're cucking themselves for no reason.

[Anonymous No.19364353]

>>19364325
although the countryside is pretty chill no? And people tend to get really old

[Anonymous No.19364408]

Israel has them by the balls but I am unsure exactly how. Japan needs to fully become nat soc in order for them to start seeing steady growth

[Anonymous No.19364415]

>>19364254
typical asian autism

it's way more efficient to have people work a smaller number of hours while well rested and focused than forcing them to do busy work while they are tired and caffeinated out of their minds, but that would be dishorobru and shamefur dispray

[Anonymous No.19364428]

>>19364311
immigration so you mean more niggers Chinchongs & Habibi rapist no thanks

[Anonymous No.19364481]

Japan is doing better than we are all things considered.
People shit on their stocks but it's barely worse than the UK's in the last 20 years.
Investing in the Nikkei 225 20 years ago would bring you a 6% real return (considering inflation) over those 20 years with dividends reinvested
Doing the same with the FTSE 100 would bring you an 8% return in 20 years.

Yet in that same time Britain has decided to strike the final blow to any hope of its own ethnic continuity, while Japan is still almost entirely homogeneous. The culture of the latter remains at this point far superior.

For 0.08% additional ROI each year for 20 years? That's not sacrificing my ancestry for.

Of course there are problems, but they are exaggerated.

[Anonymous No.19364492]

>>19364311
>Muh immigration equals better economy
Kys, this has literally never been true for anyone in any country.

[Anonymous No.19364533]

>>19364492
It's true in the short term with high-skilled workers and the long term with extraordinarily good quality workers

[Anonymous No.19364546]

>>19364311
Watcha doin rabbi?

[Anonymous No.19364560]

>>19364533
>Immigrants
>high-skilled workers

[Anonymous No.19364563]

they relaxed around mutts
ended up with a 200% indebted economy

[Anonymous No.19364595]

>>19364563
>ended up with a 200% indebted economy
This is the US' future

[Anonymous No.19364639]

Japan should open its borders to african engineers.

[Anonymous No.19364641]

Theres a Steve Jobs video where he says xerox just decided to show him their latest technologies. Oh really? Let’s just walk in and take usa latest technology and see what happens.

Tinfoil hat on: Japan unconditionally surrendered after losing ww2. Japan became a vassal colony. When japan grew strong in the 1980s, USA and other western countries played the unconditionally surrendered card and forced japan to join the plaza accord. This forced japan into a multigenerational deflationary spiral. The yen deflated from 300y/usd to 100y/usd and USA started taking their technology including the mouse, Game console, windows, touch display, and their smart phone tech. Even the Japanese sega Hardware was far superior compared to USA sega tech back in the 80/90s. When USA made japan move Honda to USA but japan continued to make Acura in japan, you could easily see the difference.

TLDR: Japan’s unconditional surrender still exists.

beastmode: china could offer japan independence as a way to unify Asia. China could also offer to unify Korea in exchange for loyalty.

Hell mode: United Asia > USA

[Anonymous No.19364669]

>>19364560
Yes, people who are outside of your own country's borders can have skills.
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.19364697]

>>19364325
I agree, but not for the same reasons.
I'm actually working in Japan now.
The average American wouldn't make it here because they wouldn't be willing to put up with the bullshit.
It's not about just BEING good here, you have to deal with the internal politics, posturing, ect in order to LOOK good.

You could be the world's most talented programmer, artist, or architect, but if you don't LOOK good, they have the feeling that you're not good. You can make yourself look good by doing stupid shit like, appearing busy, kissing the boss' ass, "working" late (just appearing busy past normal work hours), working harder not smarter, ect.
Americans, for better or worse, are results driven.

[Anonymous No.19364699]

>>19364669
Wrong

[Anonymous No.19364705]

>>19364325
>>19364415
no actually the average Japanese salaryman does jack shit all day. i was there half a year for a research project and got to meet lots of young workers that told me they just wait all day for the 課長 to go home so they can leave after him. most of them don't work hard but they work long af (easy 8am-9pm for some of them). they all wanted a comfy .gov job from 8am to 4pm
most of their task is boring meaningless data entry or shit like that. not saying some of them aren't drowning in work, but from my experience not the majority

[Anonymous No.19364718]

>>19364669
>having higher skills than the Japanese

There’s a Japanese woman whose sole job is to put special feathers together to make a brush. She’s the only one who can do it too. The way the feathers are aligned, the color matching of the feathers, to angle of the feathers, etc. You think sole Nigerian Mexican is going to match that every day for 40 years?

[Anonymous No.19364740]

>>19364313
This but even more unironically.

[Anonymous No.19364750]

>>19364705
That’s how they work. Slow and steady. Works is also their social life. Westerners do high intensity bursts. Guess who has more heart attacks, and why does japan have the most super centenarians?

[Anonymous No.19364760]

>>19364718
No, I never mentioned anyone's race or ethnicity you midwit bluepilled fucking /pol/tard.
Read the words I actually wrote instead of allowing those fucking niggers who live in your head rent free to form the sole content of any remotely political comment you attempt to make.

[Anonymous No.19364762]

>>19364697
yeaaah this guy is right

[Anonymous No.19364818]

>>19364697
>Americans are results drive

Lmao like Boeing.

[Anonymous No.19364821]

Watch Princes of Yen on youtube

[Anonymous No.19364840]

>>19364818
Well, what do you think when you hire a bunch of shit pajeet programmers?
Result: cheeper planes that love the ground more than the air.

RESULTS ANON

[Anonymous No.19364846]

>>19364641
>I pay 1 USD get 300 JPY worth of shit
>no that's too expensive
>I pay 1 USD get 100 JPY worth of shit
>I still pay the same fucking 1 USD, get the same amount of shit, but that's somehow cheaper now
>yeah let's buy their technology!
t. Retard

[Anonymous No.19364870]

>>19364821
That documentary failed to mention the plaza accord that triggered the fall of japan's economy. I had to disregard it after that omission

[Anonymous No.19365618]

>>19364740
tfw the useless eaters quote your shit posts

[Anonymous No.19365679]

>>19364254

Insane amounts of inflation keeps everyone poor and working until they collapse. They also have a serious overpopulation problem that's naturally correcting itself thankfully.

[Anonymous No.19365765]

>>19364740
Spending each day without tragedy or tension don't you feel like your brain is going rotten? I don't care what it is. Good or bad if I don't do something, I feel like I will always stay weak. I don't care what it is. Falling into a daily routine makes everything dull. Feeling like your brain is going rotten. Do you know what that's like?

[Anonymous No.19365820]

>>19364639
Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.19365827]

The natural next phase of a civilization is an empire.

Imperial Japan was literally peak optimism about the future, discipline, and ideals and then got utterly wiped out and cucked. Now they their goal is to just exist as they are. Forever. Depressing.

Asia would have been leagues better if Japan's empire was still around.

An age of no empires is an age of stagnation.

[Anonymous No.19365842]

quit fucking with the sheeple bro.

[Anonymous No.19365847]

>>19365765
Holy cringe. What a sloppy fuck

[Anonymous No.19365878]

>>19365847
ya char poster discord is poster discord is pretty cringe. its all 1%'er millennials.

[Anonymous No.19365895]

>>19365878
lol that kid is not 1% , if by 1% you mean the wealthiest. He probably is a shift manager at a Verizon store or some shit by the looks of him lmao

[Anonymous No.19365897]

>>19364760
silence kike

[Anonymous No.19365914]

>>19364428
Well it's either that or you work 16 hours a day including weekends.

I'll go with immigrants thank.

[Anonymous No.19365924]

>>19364533
>>19364669
>destroy everything that makes a country like japan worth living in so corporation X can send a few more yen dividends overseas investors.

Anti-cultural immigration is the wests greatest folly and WILL ultimately be its destruction.

[Anonymous No.19365929]

>>19364254
The society is too mired in tradition, They will smarten up eventually. Once they open up their border and workforce to Africans and Southeast Asians.

[Anonymous No.19365960]

>>19365929
You mean they, just like China (both of which places are already overpopulated even without immigration), have to do literally nothing but sit by while the West implodes under the weight of its own degeneracy and delusion? And then automation will kick in anyway. Sometimes it's good to just wait and see...

[Anonymous No.19365975]

>>19365914
we´re ok here in iceland with near zero immigrants thank you faggot rabbi

[Anonymous No.19365983]

*ya char poster discord is pretty cringe. its all 1%'er millennials.

>>19365895
That fag just bought bitcoin early. Worships Paul Le Roux & plays dev once in a while. Seething hatred of Chainlink to the point of writing "Chainlink scam" on his secretary's tits & spamming it on biz.

But ya assume char posting is whales or 1%'ers laughing at poor fags for a ego trip. We all have to signal ownership of at least 1mil in crypto.

[Anonymous No.19365992]

>>19365983
Well Chainlink is a scam dude. But good to know on the background of this fat neet.

[Anonymous No.19365995]

>>19365924
You're literally incapable of reading.

>>19365897
You're also literally incapable of reading.

Enjoy getting mad at everything you see because all you can do is project your hated opinions into others without actually asking what they believe
lmao
midwits

[Anonymous No.19365999]

>>19364254
they only had 850 coronavirus deaths with no lockdown because of mask wearing culture and contact tracing. They have a strong manufacturing base and are set to succeed. USA isn't set up for manufacturing and no one trusts china. long on Japan here

[Anonymous No.19366002]

>>19365975
This site has legit been ruined by /pol/.

It's impossible to have an intelligent discussion when the majority of the user base believes in stormfag conspiracies.

[Anonymous No.19366006]

>>19366002
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.19366021]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY

Watch this to understand what went wrong with japan.

[Anonymous No.19366027]

>>19365960
China is not the same as Japan. They're smart enough to allow 100s of thousands of semi-skilled foreign workers into their country. And automation is not going to take care of their Japan's aging population.

[Anonymous No.19366030]

>>19366006
An argument for what? It doesn't matter what argument I give you. If I show you a study that demonstrates that immigration is good for the economy you're just going to say that it's Jewish propaganda to destroy the white race. What's the point?

[Anonymous No.19366038]

>>19365995
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

[Anonymous No.19366060]

>>19366030
>you're just going to say that it's Jewish propaganda to destroy the white race
Strawmen arguments aren't strong arguments either.

I would give you a study that shows that immigrants are a net negative for the economy based on the lack of taxes they pay.

Then I would give you the Putnam study (cited many times) on how diversity decreases social cohesion.

[Anonymous No.19366066]

>>19366038
>Somebody is a kike because he believes that it is possible for a single person born outside of the exact currently existing modernist national borders might be of use to those within those borders

It's flattering to call you a midwit.

[Anonymous No.19366068]

>>19365992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydGEYxE2PF8

[Anonymous No.19366070]

>>19366002
idk what happened really. Got back here recently after 3 years and this board is now infested with poltards. Why?

[Anonymous No.19366073]

>>19366060
>I would give you a study that shows that immigrants are a net negative for the economy based on the lack of taxes they pay.
Please show me a study that demonstrates that immigration is bad for the economy.

I mean an actual peer reviewed study, not infographics from /pol/.

[Anonymous No.19366074]

>>19364311
If they had more lebensraum, they would have more population growth. Same shit is happening in euROPE.

Not enough room to grow, so forced into cities where population naturally declines. Heavy american psyops (feminism, capitalism, pacifism)

[Anonymous No.19366084]

>>19364311
There's a yuge sniffer behind this post

[Anonymous No.19366089]

The japanese bubble economy of the 80's was created on purpose by their central bank in order to increase wealth inequality and to plunge the nation into a 30 year (ongoing) recession so they can become ore powerful,

[Anonymous No.19366120]

>>19366073
Usually when I do, you people start moving goalposts.

Besides you totally ignore the social costs, because usually it seems everything is about GDP.

Here's the report on it https://www.heritage.org/immigration/report/the-fiscal-cost-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-the-us-taxpayer

[Anonymous No.19366123]

>>19365827
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.19366145]

>>19365992
Ya not all char posters are psychopaths.

Also Japan is based. Nationalism keep the Covid-19 away since literally the only variable you have to consider when projecting how bad corona virus is going to yeet a countries economy is where Gates Foundation money is going.

Japan will get out of this just fine.

[Anonymous No.19366149]

>>19366120
I'm reading the study now.

How do you quantify "social costs"?

[Anonymous No.19366153]

>>19364533
>>19364311
Mr Shekelsburg and Mr Goldstein, thank your for your opinions, now if you'd kindly continue queuing for the showers.

[Anonymous No.19366166]

>>19364641
Kek, east asian prosperity sphere didn't work out quite well. Why the fuck do you think a democratic country will be willing to suck an autocratic dick? It's going really well with Taiwan and Hong Kong sofar...

Check Princes of the Yen if you are interested in what happened between WW2 and 90s in Japan. You are spot on with your tinfoil hat. Your Beast mode will never ever happen peacefully. Japan is mobilizing right now against chinese threat and they have changed their defensive doctrine which was imposed by allies. There is no independence with China. You either suck the dick or you gtfo.

[Anonymous No.19366167]

>>19366120
Hold on a second. That study is about ILLEGAL immigrants. I'm not talking about illegal immigrants. I'm not in favour of illegal immigration.

Talk about moving the goalposts!

[Anonymous No.19366185]

>>19366120
Why unlawful?

[Anonymous No.19366189]

>>19366070
To counter the tranny infestation by trannies like yourself.

[Anonymous No.19366190]

>>19366149
Japan currently has almost zero crime, you can get a job with just a high school diploma and are pretty much guaranteed a job in your field after graduating university, drugs are unavailable and you can let your wife and kids walk home alone at night with no fear. The fact you want to "quantify social costs" disgusts me.

[Anonymous No.19366227]

>clean
>Low crime
>Racially pure
>Free and not cucked by sjw
>Love to work hard for the good of their society


Seems great desu

[Anonymous No.19366236]

>>19366190
>The fact you want to "quantify social costs" disgusts me.
How are you supposed to accurately measure something without quantifying it?

I know you stormtards like feels based arguments (which is ironically what you accuse liberals of doing) but I'm interested in the numbers.

[Anonymous No.19366246]

>>19364254
wageslaving

[Anonymous No.19366258]

>>19366236
Fine, then tell me how much in GDP per annum losing all the benefits in the the post you replied to is worth.

[Anonymous No.19366271]

>>19366189
Close browser and go draw swastikas in your maths notebook, kid.

[Anonymous No.19366273]

>>19366189
>if you aren't an NPC with the same uninformed opinions as me then you're a degenerate tranny!

imagine having this much faith in a system you claim to fight against
i can't wait for the day poltards realize just how fucking stupid they are

[Anonymous No.19366293]

>>19366167
But immigrants are supposed to be a net positive for the economy. What difference does it make if they're illegal or not? Most of them are working jobs and that's how they actually survive in the US.

You ARE moving goalposts.

In the case of legal immigrants, let's say they are highly qualified, I do agree they increase the GDP, but do they increase the well-being of the native population before they came? I would say no because of a simple reason which is basically demand & supply. You increase the supply of labour and the wages will go down for the rest of the people.

>>19366185
Why not though? They are immigrants without a legal status. The net result is "a person from another country enters a different country".

>>19366149
Read the putnam study
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x

[Anonymous No.19366297]

>>19366074
Your a retard, it's not about living space it's about wealth inequality. In first world nations poor people don't even kids since they are off the farms and in the cities.

Australia has a shit ton of land but our demographics are shitty as well.

If you want demographic growth give people 10k USD for every kid they have, reduce the influence of central banks and instead bankroll small community banks everywhere.

Big banks only lend to big clients whilst small banks lend to the actual productive parts of the economy.

[Anonymous No.19366296]

>>19366258
It's impossible to say since you haven't given me any numbers.

You've only given me vague assertions that Japan has no crime and high job security whilst ignoring all the downsides of Japanese society.

Is crime bad? Yes of course. We should always be looking to reduce crime rates but at what cost?

[Anonymous No.19366327]

>>19366293
Immigrants are a net drain on the economy. Think about the poor african slums in paris who suck up welfare checks. Imagine if those funds were used in a baby bonus scheme where ethnic french were giving fat checks for having kids. It would have the same effect on demographic growth along with reducing social tension from little your race be replaced.


Of course big coorporations don't like the baby bonus since they want more multi-cultural societies since different ethnic groups don't form trade unions together.

[Anonymous No.19366338]

>>19366293
Legal and illegal immigrants are two completely different categories of people. I know you stormfags like to conflate the two because you basically just think that brown people = bad.

We're talking about immigration as a whole NOT illegal immigration. So that study is completely irrelevant unless you're simply arguing against illegal immigration in which case I would probably agree with you. Illegal immigration is bad.

>You increase the supply of labour and the wages will go down for the rest of the people.
So if we stop all immigration tomorrow and I'm a business owner. All of a sudden I can no longer afford to pay my workers due to the increase in wages. I now have to close down. Is that what you want?

Are you in favour of increasing the minimum wage? Because that's essentially what you're advocating there.

[Anonymous No.19366358]

They are stuck in the 90s because they are a very obedient beta culture that values the elderly and do things the old fashioned way. I mean they still use fucking fax machines because boomers can't let it go.

[Anonymous No.19366359]

>>19366297
>Australia has a shit ton of land
The vast majority of which wouldn't support a population of a few hundred people at a Stone Age level. Livable living space makes a difference, and even then you tend to see borders along natural features like mountains and rivers.
That said, a $10K grant for white babies isn't a bad idea. But it'll never happen in Current Year.

[Anonymous No.19366369]

>>19366153
cringe

[Anonymous No.19366409]

>>19366273
What makes you think your opinions are somehow more grounded when they're artificially inflated by the mainstream media, academia, celebrities, etc? Anons with /pol/ opinions are literally hounded by the FBI and the elites and the only reason they continue to hold those opinions is because they are true. There is no benefit. There is so much more to lose.

[Anonymous No.19366412]

>>19366236
Numbers are meaningless and not worth discussing without any understanding of their ultimate value.

[Anonymous No.19366425]

>>19366359
Australia has alot of livable land for our population. Think about all the rural towns that are going extinct, it's no accident. It's the policy of the central bank to open the flood gates to immigrants whilst waging war on the economic backbone of this country. Australia had a baby bonus in living memory but it was cancelled by labour because to many whites were being born.

[Anonymous No.19366428]

>>19366412
Well without numbers the discussion just becomes my feels vs your feels.

[Anonymous No.19366443]

>>19364639
Would try the chevre.

[Anonymous No.19366446]

>>19366338
>I know you stormfags
ad hom.

>brown people = bad
they have lower average IQ. doesn't mean they are all bad. But they have other allegiances too, they vote differently and live differently. different cultures clash and conflicts are more prone to happen.

>We're talking about immigration as a whole NOT illegal immigration.
Illegal immigration is a part of immigration as a whole lmao. Because its immigration at the end of the day.
> Illegal immigration is bad.
Why don't you explain why other than say "well its against the law". Don't these immigrants have a lower labour cost for your dragon dildo factory?

>All of a sudden I can no longer afford to pay my workers due to the increase in wages
well you can just move to other countries then or start competing with other companies for the labor force. who cares? if your company is not even paying wages to the native population, i don't give a fuck about your dragon dildo company.

>Are you in favour of increasing the minimum wage?
no need to increase the minimum wage if theres a reduction in immigration.

[Anonymous No.19366454]

>>19364311
Kill yourself kike

[Anonymous No.19366456]

Dear janjans,
Please forward this thread to poltards.
Kind Regards,
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.19366469]

>>19366327
yeah i get it but these people operate in "gdp = good" paradigm.

diversity is "their" strength because it decreases unity against the elites that are wrecking our societies.

[Anonymous No.19366479]

>>19366428
That's false. Not everything has to be reduced to pure quantity to have positive and verifiable content. The fact that you could respond to my post is proof of as much.
And if the numbers ultimately refer to feels insofar as we care about them at all, and if you don't believe that feelings as such have any truth in them worth discussing, then you're simply saying that the quantitative economic statistics are ultimately themselves not worth discussing, since the source of their value is "feels vs feels".

[Anonymous No.19366488]

>>19366446
You accuse me of ad hom and proceed to use ad hom against me.

So you would be fine with any number of immigrants entering the country as long as they have an IQ above average?

>well you can just move to other countries then or start competing with other companies for the labor force
Yeah that's exactly my point. If you were to dramatically limit immigration, big companies would just move overseas. The same way they would if you dramatically increase corporate tax.

>no need to increase the minimum wage if theres a reduction in immigration.
But the end result is the same. Are you a socialist or communist? Do you think that the working class isn't being paid enough for their labour?

[Anonymous No.19366490]

>>19366066
checked, moshe

[Anonymous No.19366495]

>>19364254
they have a zombie econemy thanks to neg interest rates and a central that an do whatever it wants. Why do you think everyone has to work so hard for so little

[Anonymous No.19366517]

>>19364492

hello from australia where we literally can't do anything without migrants

[Anonymous No.19366521]

>>19366479
it's amazing how i can tell the ethnicity of a poster now just by their id and post content. if you're not a kile i'll eat my hat

[Anonymous No.19366526]

>>19366469
Increasing population growth increases production which increases GDP.

Tell me what increases GDP more spending 10k on a baby bonus to have a new aussie born here who will integrate into society perfectly and has a stake in this countries future or importing a chink and paying them 100k in welfare over there lifetime?

The only reason big corporations want a multi cultural society is because different ethnic groups don't form trade unions.

Funny how the decline of ethnically white Australians coincides with the decline in trade union influence.

[Anonymous No.19366537]

>>19366521
So taking a position against the modernist reduction of all life to mere quantity makes me a kike?
You're so laughably misinformed.

[Anonymous No.19366543]

>>19366425
they used to have a tax cut for more children after the first bush.These scum know exactly how to fix shit, its just not profitable

[Anonymous No.19366547]

>>19364641

>china could offer japan

a bullet and that's about all they will EVER offer them.

[Anonymous No.19366552]

>>19364311

[Anonymous No.19366564]

Gods I wish I was born in japan. High school life is literally anime.

[Anonymous No.19366565]

>>19366488
>use ad hom against me
because i said dragon dildo company? i thought it was very funny. But thats not really ad hom because stormfag has a lot of ideological baggage surrounding it. a dragon dildo company does not.

>>19366488
Yeah ofcourse they can move overseas. But a tariff on these companies that take valuable IP to other countries would be the best choice to punish them.

>>19366488
>Are you a socialist or communist?
Neither. I think a country should do the best for its citizens and try to improve the standard of living for everyone. Both the state and private industries are instrumental in this regard. Communism vs capitalism is a false dichotomy.

>But the end result is the same.
well not really. minimum wage is just a bandaid, and unsustainable in the long term, because it will just keep on increasing with inflation while the elites drain our wealth out using tax havens and send their profits abroad.

[Anonymous No.19366591]

>>19364254
They ran out of young people (demographic collapse).
China is on the same trajectory.

[Anonymous No.19366599]

>>19366526
well yeah but it also increases GDP because there are more people taking loans etc, since money is credit which is gdp.

Well these are good talking points, I don't know much about the situation in Australia other than you becoming a Chinese colony, sadly.

[Anonymous No.19366601]

>>19366537

[Anonymous No.19366632]

>>19364705
This.
Americans work among the most hours in the developed world. Besides Sony, Nintendo, Honda, Toyota, and a few other firms that employ less than 100,000 people... what do the rest of the Japanese people actually do?

There is no S&P 500 there.

[Anonymous No.19366634]

>>19366601
I bet you've been on /pol/ for three months or less and find it funny. If you think what I said is somehow "kiked", you lack a rudimentary understanding of Judaism and you've likely never even heard of someone as entry-level as Evola.
Absolutely embarrassing. I hope you don't remember this.

[Anonymous No.19366645]

>>19366564
>High school life is literally anime.
unlikely.

[Anonymous No.19366647]

>>19366634
i unironically don't go on /pol/

[Anonymous No.19366694]

>>19366647
Then I can't fathom what you're aiming at by calling me a Jew for espousing what is essentially the core temporal doctrine of every single hierarchical or traditionalist school of thought.

[Anonymous No.19366731]

>>19364254
imagine being able to fall asleep in public transportation without the fear of being mugged or ko'ed on some spiteful, racial motivated, low IQ, impulse act

[Anonymous No.19366741]

>>19366694
i find your posts offensive in the manner typical of kikeposting because they're defending an obviously flawed position with a lot of fancy words. it indicates a depth of argumentation skill but an underlying lack of principles and a generally corrupt worldview that you're apparently trying to foist on others. i usually wouldn't engage with a serious verbal response as it's not going to be as productive as just calling you out and insulting you (prove me wrong) but this post is in itself a callout i guess.

[Anonymous No.19366759]

>>19366741
I think you're just blaming your inability to read on me. I have no clue what opinions you read into my words. If it's being pro-immigration or anti-truth, neither are remotely the case.

[Anonymous No.19366807]

>>19366759
>If it's being pro-immigration or anti-truth, neither are remotely the case.
then we agree on those principles. i'm not sure what you were trying to say with your posts then, can you state them more simply so a brainlet like me can understand?

[Anonymous No.19366854]

>>19364311
This is the correct answer, dumbfuck polfags will never accept that this is the inevitable conclusion to muh ethnostate

[Anonymous No.19366864]

>>19364254
regrettably its their culture of shame
>self-aware to a fault
>any mistake requires self-inflicted punishment
>leading to lacking confidence to innovate
>lacking confidence to marry/have kids
>more likely to hikkikomori or just kill self
this and the mafia controls the economy

[Anonymous No.19366904]

>>19366731
This. I lived in Japan for several years. Having no niggers around is quite comfy. One feels that one can relax. Then I came back to my homeland the US and I see all these niggers around, it's rather unsettling. Around blacks, never relax.

[Anonymous No.19366930]

>>19366068
Quick, help! How many linkies should I buy to be as rich successful and good looking as him?

[Anonymous No.19366931]

>>19366807
I think that nationalist responses to the modern predicament are generally correct but overshoot in their reactions by enshrining as essential a large number of things which only came into existence in the 16th & 17th centuries through the degeneration of the middle ages, such as historically extreme national borders coupled with non-existent borders within the nation itself.
To sum the position up in a sentence, it seems to me that the /pol/tard too often sees the levelled flatness of the modern world and reacts to it by positing a single point of near absolute power at the top of society in an ad-hoc and rationalistic fashion. Instead, societies ought to more resemble a pyramid and be based on castes, with higher castes having a higher degree of freedom. A relative mingling of the highest castes of nations of civilisations is fine and often positive, a prerequisite to the formation of an empire in a civilisation's highest state, while a mixing of the lower castes is entirely degenerative.
I just think that the general right-wing position here is extremely shallow and intrinsically American. Their eyes don't go back any further than 200 years.

[Anonymous No.19366976]

>>19364760
Lmao

[Anonymous No.19367005]

>>19366931
Good thinking.

[Anonymous No.19367039]

>>19366931
i admittedly had to read that about 5 times, but i'm pretty sure i agree with all of it. i'm not sure (high-)skilled immigration is the solution to japan's problems though

[Anonymous No.19367048]

>>19364311
>REEE MOMMY HE SAID IMMIGRATION CAN HELP AN ECONOMY
>I... I KNOW I CAN ALWAYS GET MY FRIENDS FROM POL TO CALL HIM A JEW!

[Anonymous No.19367064]

>>19367048
>the kike screams in pain as he strikes you

[Anonymous No.19367085]

>>19364254
Women's lib. The men continue to do what is expected of them - work themselves to death, provide for wives+family - but the women don't hold up their part of the deal by popping out a decent number of kids.

[Anonymous No.19367115]

>>19366931
>I think that nationalist responses to the modern predicament are generally correct but overshoot in their reactions by enshrining as essential a large number of things which only came into existence in the 16th & 17th
Too much thought here. It's not that complicated:
The average /pol/tard has a victim mindset. They believe that an ethnostate would solve many of their internal problems AND that they would be a winner in that society. (protip: they would be an even bigger loser)
>Instead, societies ought to more resemble a pyramid and be based on castes, with higher castes having a higher degree of freedom
This already exists...
>I just think that the general right-wing position here is extremely shallow and intrinsically American. Their eyes don't go back any further than 200 years.
Their brains don't understand being an even bigger loser in an ethnostate that provides no ethnic victim mindset cover for being so fucked up.

[Anonymous No.19367143]

>>19364311
Kys

[Anonymous No.19367146]

>>19367039
I don't think it's the solution to Japan's problems either. I don't think there's any solution whatsoever. They've dug their grave and are likely fucked regardless of which way they choose, a decline into poverty or a negrification. The only reason I started defending anything at all is because a bunch of /pol/tards started sperging at me when I dared to say that "a country can benefit in the long term from extraordinarily high quality foreign individuals".

[Anonymous No.19367153]

>>19364760
based

[Anonymous No.19367154]

>>19366409
The benefit is that you can project all of your failures onto a faceless nameless "other" rather than accept that you yourself are mostly to blame for your position in life. Anons with /pol/ opinions are only hounded when they're doing what edgey whiteboy nerds have always done, make threats online about chad and stacey. Besides, Pol opinions are inflated by artificial celebrities and midwestern sluts and homos like Lauren Southern and Milo.

[Anonymous No.19367167]

>>19364481
Based post

[Anonymous No.19367187]

>>19367115
>This already exists...
If you consider any hierarchy a caste system, then I agree. But that's not what I mean. Regardless of definition, I meant it in a "right-wing" fashion, to the effect of claiming that a feudalistic system which is spirited with a correct culture will work out better than a state-totalitarian system which is spirited by the same culture (insofar as it is possible for these to share a culture).

[Anonymous No.19367203]

>>19366409
Being contrary and openly expressing ones views is the benefit. You truly believe that killing all Jews will solve all of your problems so you preach your backwards beliefs. All anonymous forums will always be filled with opinions that cannot be spoken outside without the potential for serious social/legal consequences. If nazi Germany won and converted the world into nazism/eugenics lovers paradise than anonymous forums would be filled with people preaching democratic ideas. People preaching for more human rights and less death camps. People rehashing unpopular backwards opinions on anonymous forums will always be the expected. It is not proof that the regurgirated ideas yo>>19366409
u spew are right.

[Anonymous No.19367225]

>>19367146
i think it's easier to have this perspective if you live somewhere with sensible immigration controls, a lot of people are unfortunately living in places that are being flooded with, shall we say, "low merit" immigrants and those people are somewhat justified to have strong reactions when someone voices pro immigration opinions, even if it's a bit misdirected.

[Anonymous No.19367244]

>>19365765
Sociopath time stamps in a suit quoting rant in airmaster episode 8 anime.

Based

[Anonymous No.19367255]

>>19364254
unironically, lack of spiritual direction.

No real God

[Anonymous No.19367289]

>>19367225
It's quite justified, and it's even a decent belief to instil in the lower castes of one's own country to some degree. Children's books are only indicative of degeneracy when read by adults. My error is always expecting people here to be able to think on a level higher than the lowest level of correctness. I wouldn't bother raising these points in a pub.

[Anonymous No.19367288]

>>19364254
do you think they dress like that so if they die they're just put in a coffin

[Anonymous No.19367290]

>>19367154
Very small minded of you if you can only think of yourself. Nations are more than just one person and no matter how much you pretend otherwise problems do exist in the world, and it's not just the problems that you cause. Other people cause problems too.

[Anonymous No.19367307]

>>19367146
>decline into poverty
You are misrepresenting the outcome. Young people would enjoy lower housing prices, more demand for their labor, and healthy wage growth.

[Anonymous No.19367350]

>>19367290
>Unless you think immigration is responsible for all of a nations problems you're small minded.
There is some irony in this post.
You honestly believe that everyone using /pol/ does so out of some sense of nationalistic duty? Maybe you're the small minded one...

[Anonymous No.19367361]

>>19367307
Pensions are a ponzi scheme and westernisation of culture ensures that there won't be enough new native entrants to prop it up. If they don't accept a negrification, then they'll either have to let their elderly die en mass at some point, since they've eviscerated the natural relationships of elderly and society (as state pensions must do), or they'll have to create a cattle class of youth who work primarily to fund the lives of a growing elderly leisure class.
Knowing Japanese culture only slightly, it seems to me that they're not likely to choose the former option any time soon.

[Anonymous No.19367393]

>>19364641
this post is so fking retarded it hurts.

China would offer Japan a bag of dicks sooner than an offer of unification even if it meant destruction.

Also a united Asia is not only a pipe dream, but would starve from lack of oil / energy. USA would crush it through attrition.

Fucking imbecile. Read a book, maybe start with The Absent Superpower, which specifically looks at the Asia VS USA conflict.

[Anonymous No.19367394]

>>19364669
skills in crime and fucking shit up that is

[Anonymous No.19367409]

>>19367394
I am outside of your country. I can guarantee that I would be a better influence on your country than the vast majority of those within it.

[Anonymous No.19367474]

>>19367393
i believe this is the point of china's belt and road project - increasing energy independence and bypassing naval supply choke points. not sure if it's going to get up and running in time. does zeihan address this anywhere? i don't recall seeing it mentioned in his latest book in any detail.

[Anonymous No.19367611]

>>19366854
It wouldn't need to be be if they had children. Imagine if Japan's culture wasn't so autistic when it comes to human relationships and romance.

[Anonymous No.19367874]

>>19366904
Same, with identical experience. All these retards advocating immigration for Japan have either never been there, are brown, or are still in school drinking the koolaid. I would gladly take a 40% cut in income and wealth if that would return America to it's traditional 1776-1965 demographics. I would take a 55% reduction if it could be 98% white like Japan is 98% Japanese.

[Anonymous No.19367920]

wrong, gay and fuck you kikes and your retarded economy meme. this is my third country ive migrated to and quality of life is 10x whayever shitholes you are from and middleclass life here is by far the most extreme comfy. ive got a 3 bedroom 2 bath house woth a yard for 700 a month. i was payinh 700 a week for a shitbox in sydney. ive got panasonic, subaru, hanamaruki, hajunomoto, and sanyo factories in short drving distance amd they are all hiring and i can afford to build a brand new house here once ive got one year of work under my belt. fucl you faggots you dont know shit or are greedy beedy eyed kikes. i listened to this stagnant economy meme my entire life but when i came here and found i can take my wife and two kids out to dinner for less than 20 bucks and dont have to tip.... weewww lad fuck your nigger economy.

[Anonymous No.19368028]

>>19367920
How did you end up moving there? In terms of qualifications for the permanent Visa

[Anonymous No.19368057]

>>19367920
ok this is based

[Anonymous No.19368427]

>>19366074
and of course no country is allowed to conquer new land for their people anymore thanks to the world police.

[Anonymous No.19368508]

>>19366338
if you can't run your business without having immigrants working for you then sure you deserve to lose your business you cunt.

[Anonymous No.19368526]

>>19364481
Irrefutably based.

>>19364641
Woah.

[Anonymous No.19368724]

>>19364254
Insect mentality. Good little worker drones working for the queen (boss/company/government) until they die/are replaced.

[Anonymous No.19368964]

>>19367474
unfortunately not particularly well addressed in his book from my recollection. Overall his stance on China is they are pretty much fk'd no matter how to slice it regarding energy, hence why you see them pull desperate moves like stocking up on oil like mad right now when its cheap or literally killing its own population with polution by building coal fired plants. Likewise building artificial islands to protects its shit blue ocean fleet and so that it can protect oil shipments from the middle east. That being said Zehan's stance on nearly all of these points is too little / too late.

[Anonymous No.19369205]

>>19365827
wrong

the japanese spirit became broken, the decadence, the guilt-centered mindset, the artificial "goodness" lead to the complete and utter destruction of that nation's spine, self-respect, combat-readiness basically - you can see that through the economic demise which is caused by the demographic downturn which is caused by the loss of spiritual roots

to the eon-old question "why do we fight?" they answer "we dont wanna" - they let themselves be defeated, broken and they let the enemy to kill God inside them. "God is dead" said Nietzsche - yes, we killed God in ourselves, started to serve Mammon ("maximum profit" of neoliberalism - sounds familiar?) and it does not takes us nowhere. the same condition applies to all of the western and globalized civilizations (because everybody tries to repeat the material wealthy of the USA, eventhough it was the product of extreme plunder and thievery, which cannot realistically expected to replicate)

anybody who will be able and willing to change the priorities in the community surrounding him to natural causes, to restore the balance between materialism and spiritualism will be called Führer and will become a mortal enemy of the corporate overlords, because a combat ready enemy is a very dangerous precedence, which they obviously cannot let happen

[Anonymous No.19369294]

>>19366521
Curse those damned Kiles ruinin muh cuntry!

[Anonymous No.19369345]

>>19366537

[Anonymous No.19369373]

>>19369294
posting angry onions just proves im right. now cope.

[Anonymous No.19369436]

>>19368028
Brazilian used for cheap factory labor.

[Anonymous No.19369439]

>>19369373
>you responded wit a meem dat meens i win :D
OK retard. No go celebrate in your echo chamber
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.19369443]

>>19364760
please stay don't leave us we need people with brains

[Anonymous No.19369486]

>>19369439
is it possible to be more of a mad brianlet than this guy lmao

[Anonymous No.19369731]

>>19364311
Sure, it can help if they are extremely strict on their criteria for accepting immigrants instead of importing every available generic somalian chimp and other undesirables like the west is doing.

[Anonymous No.19370151]

>>19364254
They should just bull themselves up by the bootsraps and start working harder. They are leeches of modern world.

[Anonymous No.19370175]

>>19364254
Read or watch "The Princes of the Yen".

[Anonymous No.19370195]

>>19366002
You're delusional if you think mass immigration doesn't bring crime, degeneracy, political strife, and lower living standards for everyone across the board.

[Anonymous No.19370273]

>>19364254
>>19370175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY

[Anonymous No.19370344]

>>19364311
110 will come soon

[Anonymous No.19370354]

>>19364481
Most of the problems are true of white westerners too anyway, such as the high suicide rate, high depression rate and low fertility rate.

[Anonymous No.19370388]

>>19366070
Back in '17 BTC bubble, /biz/ climbed from a slow lower mid activity board to the biggest, most active board for around 6 weeks give or take. Naturally all the storm boomers and ebin 8cuck zoomers wanted in on easy money to own the jews. Thus it created a precedence for infestation.
That said, they weren't the only ones, you also have a bunch of /r9k/ tier faggots desperately seeing crypto as their one ticket to becoming a chad, and even commies trying to poke holes into everything they can.
TL:DR newfags and tourists spread enough shit so they now feel at home.

[Anonymous No.19370438]

>>19367048
seething

[Anonymous No.19370488]

>>19364311
It's a negative spiral.
>As per tradition, the man should work while the woman is a housewife
>But due all the men (and later, women) competing for jobs, the man has to work 16 hours without overtime if he hopes to retain his job
>So the wife has to get a job to help out the house finances
>Thus increasing even more general competition in society, which ensures an even more demanding workplace culture
And after a few decades, we're now at the point where both man and woman has to work all day long with no time off for family JUST to survive at bare minimum in a closet appartment, and that's if they're lucky enough to have the time to actually MEET someone to create a family with to begin with.
And that's not even accounting for unforseen shit when you get fired for a fuckup your bosses boss did, to retain company dignity and honour.

[Anonymous No.19370958]

>>19370488
>both man and woman has to work all day long with no time off for family JUST to survive at bare minimum in a closet appartment
And they are mainly procrastinating and doing uneccesary busywork or service jobs. Basically the entire foundation of the system is made of thin air.

[Anonymous No.19371147]

>>19370958
That is true. But if you don't "look" busy and staying long hours, then you'll get replaced by another, younger and more naive kid who still has ambitions that he can escape the grind with hard work.

[Anonymous No.19371191]

>>19364296

If you fail your college entrance exam you basically have no chance at a salarman life. Salaryman life is the only way to make pretty good amounts of dosh unless you're that good of a hentai artist, join the yakuza, or go into JAV/IDOL.

Salaryman life is basically your second home, you work 9-5, then mandatory "party" with your coworkers until you go to sleep and do it every day for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.19371281]

>>19371191
Or have a master in compsci

[Anonymous No.19371303]

>>19371281

If you have a master in compsci then you passed the exams so you're pretty safe

[Anonymous No.19371341]

>>19364641
Japan could have just had a recession as a result of the Plaza Accords, but instead they decided to print money for 40 years.

[Anonymous No.19371356]

Why doesn't the Japanese gov't provide huge incentives to have more kids?

[Anonymous No.19371370]

>>19367474
>Building a route through the most hostile, market-less geographies on earth
>Terminates in almost market-less Afghanistan

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Anonymous No.19371461]

>>19369294
The left can't meme because a meme needs to have an element of sardonic truth for it to stick and be funny.

Give it up

[Anonymous No.19371803]

>>19364254
nerve gas

[Anonymous No.19371927]

>>19364760
>/pol/tard.
Lol, sounds like you got pol rent free in there, faggot.

[Anonymous No.19371934]

>>19364669
>skills
Define people and skills.

[Anonymous No.19371942]

>>19364760
>No, I never mentioned anyone's race or ethnicity you midwit bluepilled fucking /pol/tard.
Yet that anon is right.
Race and IQ play an important role no matter how much you screech.

[Anonymous No.19372161]

>>19366854
yes it's true, people should either fuck and have kids (in a normal not stormfag way) or just have some foreigners come in to do all the shit jobs so the native population can get the higher up jobs

[Anonymous No.19372192]

>>19364492
but how are we supposed to get more people in the ponzi then ?

[Anonymous No.19372291]

>>19371927
>>19371934
>>19371942
cringe, again an autist who can't read more than four words without injecting his own ideological objects of hate into the opinions of others
never mentioned race, never mentioned IQ, never mentioned mass immigration, never mentioned black people.