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>> No.19349144

>>19349128
NOT A LARGE ENOUGH NUMBER

>> No.19349152

apparently anybody admitted to a hospital for any reason who ends up dying is a corona death

>> No.19349197

>>19349152
>Hospitals stop receiving customers
>Hospitals in America are for profit
>They get additional support and money for having Corona patients
>Every patient will now get labeled as Corona as that way the hospital will not go broke

>> No.19349208

>>19349128
Meanwhile my unemployment got denied and I'm on the front lines

>> No.19349236

>>19349152
Hospitals receive 13k for every corona patient, and 37k for corona patients on ventilators.

Also, the CDC is telling doctors to count deaths as "corona deaths" when they think it was corona.

>> No.19349269

Were still short ~1.9M deaths from the original assessments...
2nd wave will be brutal I'm sure.

>> No.19349292
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19349292

>>19349128
We really shut down our country and had mass panic over something that amounts to the common flu....

>> No.19349294

>>19349236
Fun fact: 90% of covid patients placed on a vent died

>> No.19349303
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19349303

>>19349269
>Were still short ~1.9M deaths from the original assessments...
Here's the guy behind the 2.2 million US dead narrative.

>> No.19349310

>>19349292
The worst is yet to come, as the Titanic that hit the iceberg of months long economic shutdown slowly starts taking in water.

>> No.19349316
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19349316

>>19349152
>>19349236
Fucking lol, do mutts ever face reality?

>> No.19349362

>>19349294
How fun.

>> No.19349393
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19349393

>We have only 15 cases it's very super duper under control, don't listen to the media saying we have 100 cases, it's only 3000 cases (daily)! The lying lamestream media would have you think 100,000 deaths isn't normal!

>> No.19349395
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19349395

>>19349316
This is reality.
Even left-wing mouthpiece Snopes admits it.

>> No.19349403

>>19349316

saved. my post was mean to be ironic knowing that this place is full of pol lite mouthbreathing magaturds.

>> No.19349441

>>19349128

>nearly 6% mortality rate

lol at all the muh .1% mortality rate cucks out there. Maybe we all deserve to die

>> No.19349446

>>19349294
It's about the same as normal for people who get placed on ventilators.

>> No.19349468
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19349468

>>19349441
You're an idiot.

>> No.19349484

>>19349393
Protip: Trump was one of the first to restrict travel from China (got called racist for that), and then from Europe (got rebuked by Europe over that).

>> No.19349494

>>19349441
Have you been living under a rock?
In what fantasy scenario is the entire world population being tested for covid? There were people that died in a car accident last week, covid deaths. Not only are the cases underreported, the deaths are overreported.

>> No.19349511

>>19349152
>>19349197
>>19349236
lmao imagine actually believing this. Denial is an inherent part of the daily life of the mutt.

>> No.19349520

>>19349511
see >>19349395

>> No.19349537

>>19349511
To be clear: it's true hospitals get that money. But there is no widespreak hospital conspiracy where they fake the corona deaths. The real amount of deaths is probably much higher even.

>> No.19349553

>>19349520
see>>19349537

>> No.19349566
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19349566

>>19349537
>>19349553

>But there is no widespreak hospital conspiracy where they fake the corona deaths.
They're being told by the CDC to count deaths as corona when it's "assumed" they have corona.

>> No.19349590

>>19349446
They were put on a vent unnecessarily. I know someone who was offered to be put on a vent and she refused, remained on oxygen therapy and eventually got better. Had they placed her on the vent who knows if she would have made it. Who knows how many lives could have been saved had they remained on oxygen therapy rather than being placed on a vent. Many doctors were pressured by hospitals because of the financial incentives

>> No.19349600

>>19349590
>Many doctors were pressured by hospitals because of the financial incentives
Absolutely.

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19349633

>>19349566
>HOW DARE THE CDC TELL DOKTORS TO USE THEIR BEST JUDGEMENT ON CAUSE OF DEATH
>THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, DID YOU HEAR MEDICARE IS /PAYING/ THE HOSPITALS TO CARE FOR PATIENTS????!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

>> No.19349672

>>19349633
Just pointing out that corona deaths are overestimated.

>> No.19349677

>>19349468
>>19349494

God you are so fucking dumb. The past inability to test for coronavirus goes both ways. Plenty died before coronavirus was front and center on the radar and were labeled as "unknown" cause of death. How many people died without being hospitalized or reported? (answer: many) inb4 all the schizoids itt claim docs are being paid and directed to attribute deaths/hospitalizations to covid, and that snopes post above is completely fucking equivocal and inconclusive.

>> No.19349697

>>19349677
>Plenty died before coronavirus was front and center on the radar and were labeled as "unknown" cause of death
No.

All eyes were on corona before it took hold in the US.

>> No.19349729

>>19349697

Oh sweet, thanks for setting me straight. Guess I was wrong based on the evidence of your opinion

>> No.19349746

My friend who committed suicide by jumping out his window was diagnosed as a covid death because he had a cough when he was paralyzed in the hospital. Wasn't even tested for covid

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19349756

I wished for an apocalyptic virus and got a sturdier flu. Now its just msm and liberals losing their fucking minds lol. Oh well, at least when its fall i can buy the oil dip again

>> No.19349763

>>19349729
Seething.

>> No.19349767

>>19349672
According to your own assumptions. If anything, cases are being underestimated since only the most severe cases are being tested.

>> No.19349781

>>19349746
I hope it just jumped through his window lmao

>> No.19349827

>>19349767
>According to your own assumptions
lol, no; because of doctor's assumptions.

>If anything, cases are being underestimated since only the most severe cases are being tested.
That's the point; they can just "presume" it's corona and officially record it as such.

>> No.19349908

>>19349672
>>19349600
>>19349566
>>19349827
If America is specifically giving a financial incentive to hospitals to inflate coronavirus deaths, why are their deaths per million roughly middle of the pack compared to other hard hit countries? Wouldn’t we expect them to be an outlier given there’s all this lying going on and tons of counting of deaths that have nothing to do with COVID?

>> No.19349946

>>19349908
>If America is specifically giving a financial incentive to hospitals to inflate coronavirus deaths, why are their deaths per million roughly middle of the pack compared to other hard hit countries?
Pretty much all countries are doing it.
And the purpose isn't to inflate coronavirus figures (not overtly at least).

>> No.19349984

>>19349128
No one cares anymore.
>>19349310
Nuh-uh.
Problems are being BRRRRR'd away.
Refusing to accept this will result in you being priced out of everything forever.

>> No.19349994

universal healthcare is the first step to slavery

>> No.19349997
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19349997

>its just a floo

>> No.19350028

>>19349946
>The whole world is conspiring to make money from this crisis that's bankrupting them!
lol ok

>> No.19350040

>>19349128
garbage stats
both those numbers are wild guesses

>> No.19350055

>>19349908
Are you just going to use rational arguments against conspiratards? Not gonna work

>>19349946
>Pretty much all countries are doing it.
Pretty much all countries are going through economic hardship. But sure, there is a magical global hospital conspiracy, makes total sense

>> No.19350155

>>19350055
>Pretty much all countries are going through economic hardship.
If everyone is suffering at the same time all is equal in "economic terms".
From now on the slightest improvement will be seen as an incredible boom.

>> No.19350169

>>19349994
This man knows

>> No.19350190

>>19349566
I trust the judgement of a doctor more than some rando on the internet. Some hospitals are underwhelmed because they had to cancel things like non-essential services and aren't in massive metro areas so they aint gettin the covid cases. Those that are overwhelmed absolutely (typically in bigger cities) need to be given the benefit of the doubt on this.

>> No.19350281
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19350281

OH NO NO MUTTCHADS THEYRE ALL FAKE RIGHT BROS?

>> No.19350301

>>19349128
Congrats OP

>> No.19350359

Congrats Ameribros, you did it.

>> No.19350487

>>19349152
I heard about someone who died in the ER having been brought there from a car crash. He wasn't wearing a mask, so he was considered a corona death.

>> No.19350523
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19350523

>>19349128
>mfw New York makes up over a third of that death count

>> No.19350548

>>19350487
Yeah my wife's boyfriend too

>> No.19350600

>>19349511
If not as if this information isn’t public available If you look outside of mainstream media sources. It’s not as if questionable intentions and bad actors couldn’t utilize this pandemic as a means of profiting and ushering in “the new normal”.

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19350606

>>19349128
lol

>> No.19350627

>>19349746
Bots at it again

>> No.19350733

>>19350028
>>19350055
Many countries in the world are giving hospitals money based on the number of corona patients, yes.
Not sure why this triggers you so much.

>>19350190
>I trust the judgement of a doctor more than some rando on the internet.
We're talking about labeling deaths as corona or not.
This is not something "randos on the internet" are in charge of.

>> No.19350746

https://www.businessinsider.com/states-manipulate-coronavirus-data-reopen-2020-5
Riddle me this nothingburger copers and conspiritards. Logically, states are desperate to reopen because the economy is JUSTed, but what would be the easier/more convenient thing to do to help this cause?
a)manipulate/downplay data, risk losing credibility and bunch of other issues with it
b)prove that hospitals are inflating numbers for gov gibs (as (you) are implying)
Also consider that in scenario a) people get mad at the state officials, in b) it'd be the hospitals/doctors.
To me obviously b) is more convenient, but for some reason instead a) is happening everywhere. Why?

>> No.19350819

>>19350746
>b)prove that hospitals are inflating numbers for gov gibs
It's a fact that hospitals get money based on corona counts, and it's a fact that medical personnel is told they may "presume" deaths are corona deaths without testing.

>> No.19350836

>>19350281
we did it, reddit!

>> No.19351074

>>19350819
They'd have to prove it to the general public, and yes it's a fact, that wasn't the question.
If that "number inflation" is so significant why don't they use that as a reason for the reopenings? Instead they are going with option a) the action with way more downsides. Why?

>> No.19351100

>>19350281
Success is ours!

>> No.19351162

>>19349152
They're also extrapolating from a prebiased non random sub sample and applying that back to the population

>> No.19351196

>>19349208
Kill yourself, Walmart worshipping subhuman

>> No.19351271

>>19349303
His married lover.

>> No.19351276

>>19349152
>Gets stabbed almost to death
>admitted to hospital
>dies
Coronuhvaroos

>> No.19351284

>>19349294
This doesn't necessarily imply that the ventilator is the causal factor for death, but that being close to death is a causal factor for ventilators. Don't fall into the intentionally laid gotchas that are there to discredit your perfectly reasonable skepticism of complete seizure of absolute power and complete devaluation of your private property.

>> No.19351307

>>19349292
You say that like it wasn't an intentional drill to pull the rug out from underneath you. Now get in the fucking pod and eat the bugs

>> No.19351349

>>19349393
>he thinks Zion Don isn't in on the Fugazi to BRRRRR you into eternal slavery
Use your brain lad

>> No.19351380

>>19349128
USA #1!!!

>> No.19351413

>>19349441
I have 10 people come into my room to measure height. However the door is only 5'6, so only 6 of them can fit. I now know for certain that the average height is 5'5.

>> No.19351430

Oh look, all the niggerlovers in one thread

>> No.19351469

>>19349677
>inb4 all the schizoids itt
you are the schizo for insisting a virus that spreads X times faster than influenza can actually be this lethal

>> No.19351488

>>19349484
Too late, so sad too bad.

>> No.19351514

>>19350028
dude you're talking with schizo /pol/tard conspiracy theorists. don't expect them to use logic.

>> No.19351515

>>19350028
Only Mugabe can save us now !

>> No.19351650

>>19351514
AHHHHH HELP ME BASED MUGABE. ZION DON PLEASE PROOONT HARDER

>> No.19351874

The pajeets are still parabolic. How fucked are they?

>> No.19352020

>>19351469
>schizo
schizo is a discord tranny meme

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>>19349128
Even after all of the number inflating it's just now about to break 100k...
/pol/ TOLD ME THIS WAS THE ONE WHAT THE FUCK