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If you fall for the WFH trap, you will never move up the corporate ladder.

>> No.19275964

>>19275943
Most of us just want to be NEETs with a modest lifestyle

>> No.19275995

>>19275943
What does WFH stand for you faggot

>> No.19276000

>>19275943
Could go either way at your current gig, but damn if it is isn't a good way to interview around without having to deal with suspiciously taking time off.

>> No.19276031

>>19275995
We Fuck Hoes

>> No.19276072

>>19275943
Nobody here wants to move up a corporate ladder.

>> No.19276117
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I WFH, make a comfy salary, and have no desire to take on more responsibility for a measly raise. I would rather invest all my money in Bitcoin and retire in 3-5 years. No corporate ladder climbing needed.

>> No.19276319

>>19275995
Work from home I think

>> No.19276340

>>19275943
Fuck the corporate latter. I just want to write code. Pay me and leave me the FUCK alone.

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Why would you choose a pic of Pattie Bates when he didn't even climb the corporate ladder? He got to his position due to nepotism lol

>> No.19276645

>>19275943
This is actually really true.

>> No.19276698

>>19276340
>Fuck climbing the corporate ladder
People with attitudes like yours are making my life 100% easier
Learning to play golf, being social, and expressing interest in career growth can literally 2-10x your salary. I'm not saying go full on and suck corporate cock until your in your 60's but if you're going to be working during your 20's and 30's regardless might as well try to go for those upper positions when you'll be going into the office for more or less the same amount of time whether you're in that higher position or a lower one

>> No.19276919

>>19276698
>I'm not saying go full on and suck corporate cock until your in your 60's but if you're going to be working during your 20's and 30's regardless might as well try to go for those upper positions when you'll be going into the office for more or less the same amount of time whether you're in that higher position or a lower one

This is where you're wrong. Executives often have to work a ton of overtime and deal with additional stress that comes from managing people and having more responsibility on their shoulders.

Now if you can land a position where you really are just putting in 40 hours a week (not extra bullshit dedicated to checking emails or attending meetings outside of that either) and your work isn't too stressful then sure, an executive or management position makes sense. In a lot of other cases, it just isn't worth it. Might as well spend the extra time getting more certs, building passive revenue streams, and/or starting a business or side job instead.

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>>19275943
>If you fall for the WFH trap, you will never move up the corporate ladder.
>t. kneepad salesman

>> No.19276972

why would you want to climb up fucking normie
enjoy your rat race

>> No.19276975

>>19276919
It’s more stressful to have your own business than being an executive for a giant corporation. Don’t even compare them.

>> No.19277094

>>19276117
this is my style too. been work from home for 5 years...flipping shitcoins and posting on biz most of the work day. I really don't care about the ladder.

>> No.19277126

>>19276698
really depends on your career path. for a programmer, once you get to senior level there's not much ladder to climb. management doesn't pay that much different that senior/team lead and I'm not interested in that track anyway.

>> No.19277132

>>19276972
This

>> No.19277192

>>19276698
Programmers have a different track unless they are set on being a manager or something.

I have absolutely no interest in being a manager that barely writes anything.

I fucking hate the corporate structure too. I'm friendly at work, I handle customer interaction well in calls and I help my coworkers out whenever I can. I'm not interested in what project managers and sales does until it gets to my desk.

Fuck all that, they may make more money but I've seen first hand that my job is far more secure than a lot of project managers.

>> No.19277290

>>19277192
Well, on your one-on-one, do you raise the question of getting a higher raise?

I feel the moment you ask to be fairly compensated is when the management will stigmatize you.

>> No.19277322

>>19277192
To each their own. Being a project manager seems pretty fun. Everyone does the work while you chill and deny budget changes.

>> No.19277325

>>19277290
probably depends a lot on the team. If it's a distributed team where everyone's remote then it's a different dynamic than a team where only one or two guys is remote and everyone else sees each other in the office everyday.

>> No.19277331

>>19277290
Yeah that's why I'm about to ditch this place. I hate them. Wagie with a golden chain.

>> No.19277345

>>19275943
>you will never move up the corporate ladder.

>99% of the people on this board suffer from autism or are maladjusted in general. they will never progress up the corporate ladder regardless of whether they work at home or in an office.

>> No.19277360

>>19275943
I wasn't moving up the corporate ladder working in the office either.

Got a $1500 raise at my performance review after nailing every single Sprint deadline. Biggest raise I've gotten after 3 years of development experience.

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>>19276117
>>19277094
Beyond based bros of the eternal comfort.

>> No.19277445

>>19277360
That's some fucking bullshit. I hate how some of these companies treat developers. They pay sales more but fire them out of no where, and then the expect to keep devs longterm but pay them nothing

>> No.19277505

I don’t get why people who know how to program and code don’t just make their own app/program/website.

I mean there’s like 0 capital involved into a personal project. All you do is invest in your personal time.

>> No.19277753

The Ultimate Selection in Self-Loathing

>> No.19278267

>>19275943
fuck the corporate ladder
>>19276117
based

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>>19277505
>I don’t get why people who know how to program and code don’t just make their own app/program/website.
Planning on doing this myself. The issue is you need a team to really develop a product that clients are willing to pay money for.

Most of them are too busy working for a promotion to devote any time towards starting a business. I've tried to get a few co-workers involved in a project I'm working on, and they're not interested.

Additionally, a lot of times your contract will have IP clauses so if they prove you developed/started an invention while employed, it belongs to the company now. This is especially true if your invention/idea is in the same industry as your employer. My point is you really need to do your legal homework before you try to start your own business -- you might find that "your" business and all of its intellectual property belongs to your employer.