/tsg/ Tanker Stock General

[Anonymous No.19199680]

He's only hurts us edition

>Highlighted links
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4343722-talking-tanker-trade-podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I82iGHr3Xg&feature=youtu.be (Overview of tanker thesis)

> Tanker education
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/012316/crude-tankers-business-transporting-oil.asp
https://lawexplores.com/the-tanker-market-current-structure-and-economic-analysis/
https://www.mckinseyenergyinsights.com/resources/refinery-reference-desk/tanker/
https://www.euro-maritime.com/index.php/navigator?id=3080

>Tanker rates
http://www.crweber.com/ (no https)
https://twitter.com/TankersInt

>Maritime news
https://lloydslist.maritimeintelligence.informa.com/
https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/2013/02/tanker-track.html
https://www.freightwaves.com/american-shipper
https://shipbrief.com/

>Companies
https://pastebin.com/TnN1aeQz

>Oil news
https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/global_oil.php (look at that V, lol)
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/
https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/commodities/oil
https://www.rystadenergy.com/newsevents/
https://nhentai.net/tag/oil/

>Past earnings reports (alphabetical)
ASC: EST EPS $0.14, actual $0.20.
DHT: EST EPS $0.54, actual is $0.44 (divvy of $0.35).
EURN: EST EPS $0.86, actual $1.05 (divvy of $1.10).
INSW: EST EPS $1.45, actual $1.49.
NAT: EST EPS $0.26, actual $0.27.
NNA: EST EPS $0.00, actual $0.94.
OSG: EST EPS N/A (Q4, 2019 was $0.12)., actual $0.28.
STNG: EST EPS $0.49, actual $0.82.

> Earnings report(s) expected today
None. If I’m wrong, enlighten me.

> Upcoming earnings reports calendar
FRO on 5/20, pre-market
TNK on 5/21, pre-market
SFL on 5/29, pre-market
TNP on 6/4, pre-market

>Oil futures rollover date
Today (next is June 22, 2020)

Previous thread:
>>19187373

[Anonymous No.19199707]

tfw swung some FRO for EURN. good or bad move?

[Anonymous No.19199715]

COLD. DEAD. HANDS.

[Anonymous No.19199730]

>>19199680
>Clown World General

[Anonymous No.19199761]

HODL DHT MUHREEENS
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

[Anonymous No.19199798]

Thanks Brandon I was going to buy tanker stocks but in the end I decided not to. Wish I could use the money you saved me to buy you a drink.

[Anonymous No.19199799]

Bought my lambo thanks to massive tanker stock profits

[Anonymous No.19199806]

>>19199761
>9:42 ET.
I guess this guy is in the midwest. 8:45am to 4:30pm ?

[Anonymous No.19199812]

hold on seacat

[Anonymous No.19199814]

>>19199761
I love fucking your mom in her fat juicy pussy

[Anonymous No.19199824]

>WIT front month at $33
holy shit, kek

[Anonymous No.19199854]

[Anonymous No.19199858]

Is there any place I can track June contracts live with volume and such? I really want to monitor this too, because I am filled with "wtf."

>>19199707
Mixed. I REALLY wouldn't of done that if I were you with FRO's earnings and guidance tomorrow coming out. But EURN is solid and strong and long term-capable, so not like it is a bad thing.

>>19199812
HOLD ON SEA CAT!

Really, we are already back, DHT just down slightly. Rest of the tankers I got at least back green.

[Anonymous No.19199861]

Volume update:
Today: 4,400
Final Day OI: 34,000
Minimum Remaining OI: 29,600

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 133 (in progress)

Yesterday 10am: 3,051

Yesterday 11am: 2,381

Yesterday noon: 2,469

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19199882]

>>19199858

[Anonymous No.19199903]

>>19199858
entire market is down after open
WTI is zombie inflating

[Anonymous No.19199905]

>>19199858

[Anonymous No.19199910]

>>19199858
I just saw the 7% bump vs EURN's 0.6% and pulled the trigger. It was only about 5% of my total FRO.

[Anonymous No.19199944]

[Anonymous No.19199948]

VERY aggressive 5/22 SCO calls seeing volume

[Anonymous No.19199954]

>>19199858
>Is there any place I can track June contracts live with volume and such?
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/cl.1/charts

[Anonymous No.19199960]

>>19199861
Source on numbers fren?

[Anonymous No.19199968]

>>19199944
It's literally happening, right now, based retard.

[Anonymous No.19199986]

Yeeargh these seas be a bit too shaky for an salt dog like me. Had to throw me tanker bags down the davy jones locker i did

[Anonymous No.19199996]

>>19199960
>https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/cl.1/charts

[Anonymous No.19200010]

>>19199968
What’s happening? DHT is only down 2.3%? That’s a good day for tankers I know but come on...

[Anonymous No.19200015]

The OP used to include this

>>Another important date
>May 19th, 2020 (you know why)
>Keep an eye on the 14th, 15th, and 18th of May too.

What happened these days?

[Anonymous No.19200016]

>>19199986
Brandon, it's even worse when you try to fit in.

[Anonymous No.19200045]

>>19200015
>YOU KNOW WHY

[Anonymous No.19200053]

>>19200015
>What happened these days?
clown movements. I want to know what the lv 2 looks like kek.

[Anonymous No.19200061]

>>19199986
weak attempt - walk the fucking plank son

[Anonymous No.19200062]

>>19200045
Don't be cheeky, what happened?

[Anonymous No.19200087]

We are as much line 2 as realistically possible. Everything is signaling as loudly as it possibly can.

[Anonymous No.19200095]

>>19200062
I’m not sure maybe our current OP knows.

[Anonymous No.19200115]

we miss you brandon. these new shills are less likable.

[Anonymous No.19200148]

>my airlines are in the profits but my tankers are down another 3%
hahaha buying this shit is the biggest mistake ever

[Anonymous No.19200173]

There has to be criminally stupid money in this market right now. Like, there has to be Robinhood-tier bagholders who don't understand derivatives holding into expiration not knowing what that means.

[Anonymous No.19200188]

C'mon guys we are rich!!!! We made huge bags of cash yesterday on DHT divvys let's celebrate and today we made $millions when oil went negative just like we said. We rich all abored the tanker train

[Anonymous No.19200198]

>>19200173
>Nooooo I’m smarter than the market why isn’t it doing what I want?!?

[Anonymous No.19200205]

With volume being so low wouldnt it be easy to crash wti's price with a few well made trades?

[Anonymous No.19200225]

>>19200173
>>19200173
Look at the volume. They're fucking stuck.

[Anonymous No.19200229]

>>19200188
>DHT divvys

[Anonymous No.19200232]

>>19199861
>>19199903
>zombie inflating
Algo guy? This...hmm. I just wish I knew what this all means, because too unprecedented.

>>19199882
(You)

>>19199905
Hi Brandon, give it till EOD then rub it in. Who knows.

>>19199910
Oh, not bad then. Good value. Just make sure to have FRO for tomorrow.

>>19199954
Thank you. They removed it from pages earlier so I couldn't find it.

[Anonymous No.19200238]

>>19200115
This. At least brandon was almost, ALMOST funny. Those new shills try too hard yet remain just as useless. It's sad.

[Anonymous No.19200241]

>>19200205
How do you even crash prices? Do you just post really low bids?

[Anonymous No.19200255]

>>19200205
It would be EXTREMELY easy to crash WTI and that's exactly why it's going to happen.

[Anonymous No.19200258]

>>19200173
Haha Brandon you were wrong!!!! Tankers joined as wti crashed plus we got ,20% dividends. Admit it Brandon your clock got cleaned

[Anonymous No.19200276]

One thing I haven't heard you guys talk about is stock buybacks.

[Anonymous No.19200278]

>>19200198
There's 0 institutions on the contracts, therefore the market is agreeing with this. It's dumb money (aka you) who owns all the contracts.

[Anonymous No.19200284]

>>19200015
>>19200062
Day before option expiry, option expiry, penultimate day for oil contract trading. DESU I don't expect much today for oil, as the penultimate day is typically the day when fireworks happen. The last day of an oil contract's life is typically used to finalize them, not the trading of them.

[Anonymous No.19200285]

STOP RUINING MY COZY VIBES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.19200286]

>>19200232
>here’s how bernie can still win the 2020 primary
don’t you ever get tired of being retarded?

[Anonymous No.19200316]

>NOOOOOO WHY ISN'T OIL GOING NEGATIVE ALREADY??!!!
>A GUY ON THE INTERNET WHO POSTS ANIME PICTURES ASSURED ME IT CERTAINLY WOULD!!!

[Anonymous No.19200319]

>shills rustles up the thread
>we complain
>I WANNA MUH COMFY BACK A BLOO BLOO
fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.19200320]

>>19200115
It's true. Brandon was that annoying spazz that at the end of the day you kind of like and miss when gone. He was unique, a special child. Not clean and polished professional blandness.

>>19200225
>all high volume movements are down
>zombie 1-2 buys push it up

Algos should be illegal, this is bullshit the algo is keeping price up, BULLSHIT.

>>19200255
I hope so.

[Anonymous No.19200338]

This should be a tanker/Oil thread....they intertwine with one another.

Anyone with balls want to invest in UCO?

[Anonymous No.19200356]

>>19200316
ANY MINUTE NOW!

WERE DOWN 2% BUT THE MARKET AGREES WITH US!

[Anonymous No.19200397]

>>19200356
I'm up 5.8% so far, keep crying bitch nigger.

[Anonymous No.19200413]

>>19200338
We all got rich lambos on tanker stocks and divvys we don't need oil that's for losers

[Anonymous No.19200414]

>>19200284
>as the penultimate day is typically the day when fireworks happen
And you're expecting the fireworks to go down into the ground?

[Anonymous No.19200428]

>>19200338
>This should be a tanker/Oil thread....they intertwine with one another.
yes, they probably should
>Anyone with balls
i think it's reckless unless you're straight up gambling. $32 is gonna be hard to keep for next two periods, i think.

[Anonymous No.19200470]

>>19200173
But...what happens if they don't understand? Do we remain at a stable price and they all get arrested fro fraud/the oil gets backs up down the line in a few days?

>>19200319
What is upsetting is they came all at once. Like clockwork. This isn't even trying to appear like renegade trolls anymore.

Also, they might be slightly more permissible if they talked to me like your image than failed meme posting.

>>19200338
Not wrong. And my balls aren't nearly that heavy, no.

[Anonymous No.19200469]

>>19200338
No. We belong to the waves, sonny.

[Anonymous No.19200478]

Looks like FRO is gonna have a nice little PnD this week, we've finally broken through the 8 and 21 ema with downward momentum waning

[Anonymous No.19200487]

>>19200397
the “-“ infront of the number indicates a negative change

[Anonymous No.19200488]

At this point I've really only lost money on DHT because fuck DHT seriously

[Anonymous No.19200496]

>>19199861

Good job, anon. The writing's on the wall. The last time the downfall started after they dumped ~ 25.000 contracts with ~ 80.000 more to be closed out. Now there's substantially more producers shorting, but on the other hand the federals are long. We'll see, I like the odds.

[Anonymous No.19200511]

>>19200470
oh no are you upset you made retarded predictions and got called out for your stupidity? i’m sowwie

[Anonymous No.19200513]

>>19200316
>haha I'm gonna make them so angry

>>>NOOOOOO WHY ISN'T OIL GOING NEGATIVE ALREADY??!!!
>>>A GUY ON THE INTERNET WHO POSTS ANIME PICTURES ASSURED ME IT CERTAINLY WOULD!!!


>i am so le epic hahaha

[Anonymous No.19200525]

>>19200488
The dividend temporarily brings the price down, this is natural. But if doesn't go back up beyond the divvy value, it's fucked.

[Anonymous No.19200545]

>>19200425
In case anyone wants to listen in. Munchkin is on right now.

[Anonymous No.19200547]

>>19200488
Stop shorting dht everyone got rich by going long dht plus we got rich from the divvys

[Anonymous No.19200558]

>>19200488
Yeah DHT is shit, I’m printing money on airlines I thought would be worthless until next year yet DHT is so far in the hole that it will probably never break even.

[Anonymous No.19200586]

>>19200547
I didn't short it at all. I just bought some near the top, bought some more to average down twice and it's more flaccid than my dick. I'm thinking of just selling it because this shit is never going anywhere but with my luck it'll triple the second it leaves my hands.

[Anonymous No.19200608]

DHT is the best stock of all time. I'm buying more even though it's up 245% already

[Anonymous No.19200622]

>>19200513
The funny thing is that many of you guys not only lost money on tankers but also on SCO

[Anonymous No.19200640]

>>19199799
>>19200188
>>19200258
>>19200413
>>19200547
>>19200608
I hope these don't age well.

[Anonymous No.19200651]

>>19200608
Now just use an anime picture and you’d be indistinguishable from our local personality fag autist.

[Anonymous No.19200652]

>>19200276
So, none of the trolls want to respond to this?

[Anonymous No.19200678]

If nothing really happens today and all the tanker plays really do expire worthless, it'll be a lesson learned situation.

Never expect to make money when jews start jumping into your investments. They'd rather crush some random retailer than have him make like 1k in profit. Made around 2k in April of tankers, and this time the situation is even better yet it all crashed. Most obvious market manipulation in my life lol.

[Anonymous No.19200697]

>>19200652
I would approve it. Some are doing this, no?

[Anonymous No.19200701]

Volume update:
Today: 6,600 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 34,000
Minimum Remaining OI: 27,400

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 156 (in progress)

Yesterday 11am: 2,381

Yesterday noon: 2,469

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19200714]

>>19200652
Boomers don’t like buybacks because it usually affects dividends so the likelyhood of shareholders voting to approve them are low.

[Anonymous No.19200727]

>>19200678
>Most obvious market manipulation in my life lol.
>not the indexes
They both seem just as bad.

>>19200714
Boomers fucking love buybacks.

[Anonymous No.19200732]

>>19200558
>>19200586
you only lose money if you sell
COLD
DEAD
HANDS

[Anonymous No.19200735]

>>19200678
There's no option expiry today. There was some on May 15 though. Today, it's oil rollover time. The result thereof might take as long as June 1-2 to be published, but it's unreasonable to think we won't know by end of trading tonight.
Even if nothing happens today that doesn't mean tanker plays are worthless, but it significantly reduces the chance that they turn a good profit in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.19200748]

>>19200727
No, boomers love dividends and DRIP. Not trading and buybacks that help share prices and profit taking.

[Anonymous No.19200751]

>>19200697
The CEO of STNG talked about it being an option. They're not going to buy building any more ships. He said something to the effect of "not just letting the money sit around" and wanting to give back to the shareholder.

[Anonymous No.19200757]

>>19199354
>>19199396
>>19199434
>>19199502
>>19199533
>>19199566
>>19199582

Forget about OIL. It's over, they manipulated the shit out of the rollover.
Stop babling over OIL.
The point of Oil going negative was to show the retail that there was still lack of storage and tankers were valuable.
That ship has sailed, now there are just normal undervalued stocks.

[Anonymous No.19200780]

>>19200751
stng already bought back about 100k shares as I recall. More to come soon?

[Anonymous No.19200781]

>>19200735
If nothing happens today I'm considering just cashing out everything but EURN and reallocating it somewhere else. Maybe oil because nothing fucking matters anymore.

[Anonymous No.19200790]

>>19200757
Ok based retard.

[Anonymous No.19200798]

>>19200727
Depends, they vote it down in EURN most of the time.
>>19200732
True statement

[Anonymous No.19200803]

>>19200781
Yeah, I'm thinking exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.19200807]

>>19200735
My nigga, I held through May expiry because I atleast had calls for june-august. I'm not holding through June expiry too lmao. If nothing happens today then I'm cashing out before my contracts lose more value. Just gonna sit on cash and recuperate.

[Anonymous No.19200812]

>>19200780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIPZrWhECao

[Anonymous No.19200825]

some activist democrat completely tanking the shit out of this testimony livestream lol

[Anonymous No.19200826]

>>19200781
I agree I’m very close to just moving on, I can admit I made a mistake here. Plenty of opportunities coming elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.19200832]

>>19200748
>T and AAPL
idk.

>>19200781
>>19200803
>

[Anonymous No.19200840]

>>19200751
He said they cancelled buybacks because daily rates had crashed and they were worried about bankruptcy

[Anonymous No.19200862]

It's like you're drawn towards the shittiest markets for some reason

[Anonymous No.19200871]

>>19200840
See
>>19200812

[Anonymous No.19200885]

>>19200701
Final Day OI changed to 23,3k

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/crude-oil/light-sweet-crude_quotes_volume_voi.html#tradeDate=20200518

[Anonymous No.19200913]

>>19200885
That's for yesterday final? What's our volume at right now? They need at least 23.3k volume correct?

[Anonymous No.19200916]

>>19200885
Correct. Just released. Got it.

[Anonymous No.19200918]

>>19200885

[Anonymous No.19200959]

Brandon lost bigly betting against our precious tankers

[Anonymous No.19200967]

>>19200701
What's worse is that this is assuming every bit of volume is a buy order intending to take delivery.

>>19200885
In the end not much difference, still huge, but nice update.

[Anonymous No.19200980]

>>19200913
considering we have like 6.6k today we only need around 16,7k to get 0
but considering the momentary volume were seeing...this gets fucky

[Anonymous No.19200999]

>>19200967
No. This is assuming every bit of volume is an offsetting buy/sell which negates need to take delivery.

They've got a LONG way to go and not much time to get there.

Volume update:
Today: 6,700 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 16,644

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 158 (in progress)

Yesterday 11am: 2,381

Yesterday noon: 2,469

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19201039]

>>19200967

[Anonymous No.19201062]

>>19200832
I wasn't expecting to make ten times my investment, I would have been happy with 1.5x return. But despite all the fundamentals and all the trends tankers are just crabbing and the dates for when shit is supposed to go down keep getting pushed back further and further. This was supposed to be the tanker stock version of D-Day.

[Anonymous No.19201066]

>>19200999
So what happens if we end up in 10k open interest EOD today? If all the contracts expire with no buyers, then the person selling manages the storage logistics, right?? It's like all the sellers aren't concerned about handling 10 million barrels of oil... Very strange

[Anonymous No.19201101]

>>19201066
What? OI are contracts WITH buyers. If we end up with 10k OI at the end of the day, then whoever opened those contracts as a buyer needs to find storage for 10 million barrels of oil.

[Anonymous No.19201106]

>>19201066
just for comparison:

last month we had 3.5k

[Anonymous No.19201121]

>>19200062
>>19200015
Was supposed to be the magical dates when everyone made their money back, when that failed to substantiate we just pretended it never happened

[Anonymous No.19201133]

>>19201106
>>19201101
got it. misunderstood open interest. so the people who bought these contracts have to manage storage concerns.

[Anonymous No.19201140]

>>19201062
>This was supposed to be the tanker stock version of D-Day.
Yeah, could have been. If the STNG target is @50-80, then this D-Day would only swing it to maybe $30-40. Sorry you invested and intended on it. STNG is one of a few that I would expect such a violent swing. All the others would get like 10-30% or so in that possibility imo. I think that the Q3 to Q2 next year situation was the smarter and more likely one. Since we're in clown market, shit can swing wherever it wants. I'm pretty sure we're really pushing the lower bounds.

[Anonymous No.19201150]

>>19201101
That's why oil is negative and tankers are mooning

[Anonymous No.19201157]

>>19201133
Yup. Last month it was 3.5 million and that sent shit upside down.

[Anonymous No.19201181]

>>19200999
Right. That is what I meant to say. But still, this shit is ridiculous. Price slowly creeping down, I like this. We might see the apocalypse after all.

[Anonymous No.19201196]

>>19201140
STNG should be avoided they continue to destroy capital. NAV used to be over $100 per share but every year they conspire to lose money so they can

[Anonymous No.19201206]

>>19201181
The downward pressure is real.

[Anonymous No.19201223]

>>19201196
I wish you were less of a twat so I could take that at face value. I'll run through the numbers again.

[Anonymous No.19201272]

i sold my fro

[Anonymous No.19201279]

>>19201272
Why?

[Anonymous No.19201310]

>>19201272
post a screenshot

[Anonymous No.19201312]

These threads are all the same
>This is ridiculous! Omfg how is this possible! Just look at these number!
>Unprecedented! This will be a historical day sea lads!
>We're about to see big dick chad dildos!
Tanker stocks go down
>It's Trumps fault
>Goldman sachs is coordinating against this thread
>HODL SEA CAT
>You dont lose money if you dont sell guys!
>Just wait until May19th then we'll be laughing...
>comfy DIVIES! *basedface*

[Anonymous No.19201322]

>>19201223
You see bottom left? Extremely overvalued

[Anonymous No.19201326]

>>19201312
what do you expect when it's been overrun by reddit

[Anonymous No.19201330]

Volume update:
Today: 7,300 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 16,044

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 234 (in progress)

Yesterday 11am: 2,381

Yesterday noon: 2,469

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19201341]

>>19201312
This, but unironically and based

[Anonymous No.19201355]

>>19201326
>reddit troll complains about reddit

[Anonymous No.19201363]

>>19201326
it's been like this from the beginning

[Anonymous No.19201386]

>>19201330
>rising volume
>falling prices
what does this mean?

[Anonymous No.19201392]

High volume (highest volume of the day, anyway) downward push in a break from the DOW-coupled trend.

[Anonymous No.19201393]

>Big dividends
>Possibility of a buyback
>Stock price will eventually reflect the true value of the business regardless of a potential moon

What's the actual bear argument here? Opportunity cost? The businesses are making money hand over fist, they're not about to fail. The only argument I see is "red line only go down". The markets will return to rationality in time.

[Anonymous No.19201414]

>>19201386
it's clownish without increasing OI
but with volume this low it's probably a misnomer to refer to it as "rising" at all

[Anonymous No.19201435]

>>19201322
>this is an argument
buy WFC now goy

[Anonymous No.19201437]

>>19201393
Or will it?
That's the bear case I guess. But so far the market has failed to respond to any kind of rationality so why would it suddenly do so?

[Anonymous No.19201453]

You should learn how to do due diligence, STNG has lost billions of capital that's why it always trades at less than nav.

But anywho why would you buy stock in a company that always loses money?

[Anonymous No.19201480]

>>19201393
Tankers stocks are going bankrupt but that makes the stock prices go higher plus you get comfy divvys

[Anonymous No.19201496]

>open interest down from yesterday
>open interest still eeeuuuuje
>volume smol
I will stay smug as fuck until the bell.

[Anonymous No.19201521]

That algorithm is still running.

Price got completely bounced back up with a volume of.... TWELVE.

[Anonymous No.19201525]

>>19201496
Just sell now and retire on all the profits these tankers were a once in a lifetime to get rich and we did it we are all rich now. Thank you tankers

[Anonymous No.19201585]

Buy Scorpio tankers sirs
I need money for coke and hookers

[Anonymous No.19201606]

>>19201521
So for real, how is that legal? And also, how are we ever going to go low like this? Sincere question. I don't get how to combat such low volume creating upswings.

[Anonymous No.19201635]

>>19201521
Look man I'm just wondering why I should continue holding tankers if one dead dude's algorithm running overnight can completely fuck all my positions

[Anonymous No.19201644]

>>19199680
why own tankerstonks when you can own this?
easy 15 bagger. high grade gold. begins production in december, generating juicy free cash flows for expansion. mmm baby, this is what winning looks like.
I will casually toss away my USA passport and suck up with the leafs for enriching me beyond epic proportions

[Anonymous No.19201647]

>>19201606
When the zombie trading stops and the settling begins.
This is what many are trying to get out of today and somebody is inexplicably NOT trying to get out of.

[Anonymous No.19201648]

>oil cuts and shut-ins coming into effect
>oil demand steadily rising again
>no pressing storage shortage anymore

IF IT DOESN'T GO NEGATIVE IT MUST BE BECAUSE OF SOME DARK MAGIC BY THE JEWS/ALGOS/SHILLS/DRUMPF/GOLDMAN

HOODL SEACAT HOOOOOOOOOOOODLL

*posts anime girl*

[Anonymous No.19201651]

im convinced these threads are just an elaborate troll to see how many retards they can get to buy into tankers on the way down

[Anonymous No.19201670]

>>19201606
Just buy more tankers and hodl that's how we all bought lambos

[Anonymous No.19201689]

>>19201644
We aren't interested in stocks that go up because we love our tankies

[Anonymous No.19201695]

>>19201635
it might be to try offloading at the highest prices possible. These contracts must have no other buyers and no sellers willing to intentionally offload. I would be drenched in sweat if i was stuck with these.

[Anonymous No.19201725]

>>19201647
But will it stop? Anyone with a shred of common sense would of ditched by now, I am seriously considering this guy might of died or otherwise can't get to a computer or something. If you just keep buying you don't care about settlement.

>dead man algo been trading nonstop despite all signs to get out
>Brandon has been MIA
Do...you think maybe this is Brandon? What if our poor Brandon is the dead man with the algorithm and he off'ed himself because of us?!

[Anonymous No.19201730]

Brandons, are you enjoying our 4chan culture? Have you learned anything from gracing us with your abhorrent presence? What do you tell your boss when you give him a report over your activity here?

[Anonymous No.19201732]

Volume update:
Today: 7,900 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 15,444

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 523

Yesterday 11am: 2,381
Today 11am: 3 (in progress)

Yesterday noon: 2,469

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19201747]

>>19201732
do we have level two?

[Anonymous No.19201764]

>>19201725
It will stop when the trading deadline passes, which is today. Then whoever is responsible for the computer that is zombie buying will be responsible for their OI.

[Anonymous No.19201777]

>>19201747
>level two
Not sure what you're referring to. Is there something else I should be tracking?

[Anonymous No.19201789]

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Saudi-Arabia-And-Kuwait-Halt-Production-At-Giant-Joint-Oil-Field.html

[Anonymous No.19201795]

>>19201777
>tankertrash doesnt even know what level two means

[Anonymous No.19201797]

What if trump just buys all the oil st the end of the day and dumps it in the spr? He doesn't even have to announce it, he could do some Jewish magic and just negotiate with the oil bag holders to do a quiet transfer of product. If oil goes negative he will nuke China out of rage because it'll make him look bad somehow to his base of boomers.

[Anonymous No.19201806]

UCO doesn't feel so good

>>19201789
Cool. Doesn't help somebody who's bagholding today.

[Anonymous No.19201813]

>>19201635
>wondering why I should continue holding tankers
Nothing to lose but time. And the dividends will pay you for that time.
You know Q2 earnings will be magic.
Everyone else Q2 earnings will be crap and a bad guidance away from having to be saved by Jerome.

You will gather valuable experience in been patient.

[Anonymous No.19201815]

>>19201764
Yea, but then no price decline and it is too late. It fucks us all. And the dude probably goes to jail and loses all his money if he is even alive. and then what. Surely he is alive and going to sell....surely.

[Anonymous No.19201819]

>>19201777
Nice trips.

Level 2 market data, but nobody here spends 45k a year on a fucking bloomberg terminal except this guy:
>>19201795

[Anonymous No.19201821]

>>19201480
If you want to be an effective troll then you shouldn't use a blatantly illogical argument. It just kind of backfires on you.

[Anonymous No.19201839]

>>19201777
i want to see the spread and bid ask volumes. Idk if we can get that for these contracts.
>inb4 there's a pile of buy orders at -$30

>>19201789
>half a million bpd
Still running big surplus.

[Anonymous No.19201856]

>>19201813
did earnings help last time?

[Anonymous No.19201869]

>>19201797
We all have $1000000 plus profits. We will just take our lambos our comfy divvys and our huge profits elsewhere

[Anonymous No.19201877]

>>19201797
SPR is already full.

[Anonymous No.19201891]

>>19201856
You buy more tankers when the price goes down. That's called winning

[Anonymous No.19201899]

>>19201635
dont listen to this faggot:
>>19201813
>And the dividends will pay you for that time.
Yeah until they cut them in Q3 because future rates are shit. You lose time, share price, and dividend value in a sector thats shit and has no growth prospects.

[Anonymous No.19201934]

>>19201815
>Yea, but then no price decline and it is too late.
I don't think that's possible or one person could've held the entire market up last month.

We have a large WTI/DOW divergence happening right now.

[Anonymous No.19201956]

>>19201899
>in a sector thats shit and has no growth prospects.
US Shale needs to get completely nationalized + huge tariffs. It's a good strategic move to keep the US as a producer, but the constraints are already tight. I'm not sure what kind of maneuvering can happen for this that won't end up helping tankers in the mid term.

[Anonymous No.19201989]

>>19201956
The fact that half of all tankers will never be used again is surely bullish

[Anonymous No.19202008]

Volume update:
Today: 8,300 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 15,044

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 523

Yesterday 11am: 2,381
Today 11am: 59 (in progress)

Yesterday noon: 2,469

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19202014]

Fellas..that line be going down a bit

[Anonymous No.19202038]

>>19202008
Holy shit that data is why oil is negative this is bullish tankers mooning right now FOMO getting desperate

[Anonymous No.19202055]

>>19201585
> I need money for coke, hookers, etcetera etcetera.

[Anonymous No.19202074]

>>19201934
Can only hope. We got....like 3 hours left. Not much time.

>>19202014
Ye. Now go down to the depths of hell.

[Anonymous No.19202080]

>>19202014
ITS ONLY UP 1.3% !!

NEGATIVE OIL SOON!!!

CONTANGO IS HERE!!

TANKERS MOOONING

[Anonymous No.19202125]

>>19202080
>he's shitposting
>when there's almost 0 liquidity.
wew.

[Anonymous No.19202142]

Here's to hoping our resident trolls will be leaving us soon.

[Anonymous No.19202166]

>>19202142
>>19202125
serious question, how can you possibly believe that its still going to happen today? you're borderline mentally ill trying to connect the dots on how this can still work

[Anonymous No.19202178]

>>19202166
>you're borderline mentally ill
I've been wondering out loud if Brandon's some kind of insider.
So you could be right.

[Anonymous No.19202204]

>>19202166
if it doesn't happen it's bc of drumpf and the market not being rational. tankerchads have never been wrong

[Anonymous No.19202215]

Volume over the past 5 minutes is 0 (zero)
Chart won't even update

[Anonymous No.19202220]

>>19202178
at least you admit that it could be a possibility, you're not in as bad of condition as I thought

[Anonymous No.19202236]

>>19202142
Are the trolls the ones posting hundreds of times that oil is going down and lower oil demand leads to half of the tanker fleet being scrapped and bankruptcy is good for companies?

[Anonymous No.19202238]

>>19202166
>how can you possibly believe that its still going to happen today?
for a physical contract with this much open interest, when it's priced similarly to following month contracts that should have significantly higher prices, and there's 0 liquidity, you can not predict anything. Everything remains on the table.

[Anonymous No.19202247]

On Balance Volume falling off, fasten your seatbelts tankerbros!

[Anonymous No.19202269]

>>19202142
Yea. Hopefully.

>>19202215
Truly fucking unprecedented. Also....does this mean algo man is alive?! Did he finally pull the plug?!

[Anonymous No.19202284]

>>19202269
>Truly fucking unprecedented. Also....does this mean algo man is alive?! Did he finally pull the plug?!
Currently at 9 minutes of 0 (zero) volume. We had 5 minutes an hour or so ago.

[Anonymous No.19202307]

>>19202269
no liquidity for these 15k+ units. o boi

[Anonymous No.19202320]

>>19202247
I had stopped watching that because it was flat-lined but you're right. First movement there since yesterday.

[Anonymous No.19202357]

After an 11 minute gap we have some volume. Down.

[Anonymous No.19202379]

Tankers are all down today fellow tankies that means we are right and we are winning #WINNING

[Anonymous No.19202390]

>>19202178
You know...following that theory. Could him being an annoying fag, telling us that tankers were a terrible investment, spreading fud, and being just a complete homo in the threads, his way or letting us know that the fix was in? Was he trying to warn us but couldint explicitly say it so he had to resort to attempting to make huge lies in order to convince us?

Is this Brandon's redemption arc?

[Anonymous No.19202393]

>>19202379
no it means we must double down into sunk cost fallacy

ALL UP FROM HERE

MOONING CONTANGO ANY MINUTE LOOK AT THE MEME LINES!

[Anonymous No.19202394]

>>19202357
About time. Damn, I was really wondering wtf was gonna happen there.

>>19202307
Absolutely none. And I have NO idea how that plays. Patiently waiting, 2 hours and 45 minutes left.

[Anonymous No.19202396]

Who my NATty bois. Down 5% today that's a WIN

[Anonymous No.19202416]

Does this mean its over for tankers? Was it all just a dream?

[Anonymous No.19202432]

>>19202396
How about them DHT CHADS.

Only a whole 1.5% DOWN thats a huge price action UP!!

[Anonymous No.19202443]

>>19202379
I know you're just doing your job. But no one who's left is going to be shaken out.

[Anonymous No.19202452]

>>19202390
Brandon was clearly wrong about tanker stocks they are Fabulous. I repeat tanker stocks are fab because they always go up, everyday!

[Anonymous No.19202458]

>>19202416
>dream
No its a nightmare, and you're living it.

[Anonymous No.19202463]

>>19202393
don't drive your cars tankerbros keep the contango contanglin so we can fly to the moon instead

[Anonymous No.19202469]

>>19202390
That is precisely what I was wondering out loud.

[Anonymous No.19202479]

>>19202432
DHT mureeeeeens unite

[Anonymous No.19202488]

>>19202443
>Replying to obvious trolls
You're dumber than he is

[Anonymous No.19202495]

>>19202463
>don't drive your cars

[Anonymous No.19202497]

>>19202416
no, we're edging like a fucking gooners. We are potentially in the most precarious situation since the /tsg/ threads started. We're missing data and it's going to show its face in one place or another. Either at the ports, bombs, tariffs, threats... IT HASN'T EVEN BEGUN.

[Anonymous No.19202513]

>>19199798
Lmao

[Anonymous No.19202535]

>>19202497
>IT HASN'T EVEN BEGUN
Yes and it never will. It must suck watching the market boom and your sector be stuck in purgatory for what could be half a decade.

[Anonymous No.19202569]

>>19202535
why do you care?

[Anonymous No.19202573]

We've got more increasing their positions just reporting today.

[Anonymous No.19202586]

>>19202535
>fomo fud
just stuff it already. The only bullish factor i listed was at the ports. This shit is simmering and getting to boiling. It's a global problem.

>>19202569
because he's paid to do it.

[Anonymous No.19202600]

[Anonymous No.19202604]

>>19202573
B E A R I S H

[Anonymous No.19202610]

>>19202569
Because you niggers have been shilling the most retarded play I've seen outside of crypto for weeks even though its only continued to crash. So it's been fun telling you exactly what will happen and watching you meltdown in confusion because you refuse to admit certain realities.

[Anonymous No.19202624]

>>19202569
Hes one of those idiots who doesn't like losing all his money on tanker stocks. A real maroon and a rube

[Anonymous No.19202640]

>>19202569
brandon is paying me

[Anonymous No.19202662]

>>19202610
screenshot and wait two quarters. come back and smear it in our faces then. There's no new arguments to dispute. There's no new developments for you fudfags other than short term price action which is asinine.

[Anonymous No.19202667]

Uh oh...

Is it supposed to go straight down like that, Branon?

Volume update:
Today: 9,300 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 14,044

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 523

Yesterday 11am: 2,381
Today 11am: 192 (in progress)

Yesterday noon: 2,469

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19202676]

>>19202497
IT IS EVEN. THIS MAY BE IT. WE GOING DOWN!

[Anonymous No.19202720]

>>19199680
>Buy on dividend data for 5.85
>Shares just sold at 6.00
Fucking hodl seacats. Was waiting to see the difference contract expiry made on oil glut, is apparently minimal. I was suprised anyone would buy prior to dividend date.
Also, anyone with a majority of their portfolio in this stock is an idiot and can not think more than two weeks ahead into the future regarding their life decisions.

[Anonymous No.19202739]

>>19202610
See >>19202662

In the event that you're right, what logical reason is there for shitting up these threads? Surely you'd want a containment thread, lest we spread our ideas to the wider board. Your reasoning doesn't add up.

[Anonymous No.19202754]

>>19202662
>wait two quarters before humiliating me
No no no thats not how it works, you've been shilling todays contango for weeks, it was even in the OP yesterday. This whole thing is a failure and the fact you need to push your expectations out a half a year only further proves what a folly it was catching a falling knife.

[Anonymous No.19202796]

>>19202754
>you've been shilling todays contango for weeks
nobody with more than 5 posts has said there will be a contango spike in this thread. It's been gloated for 3 days that it's not happening (completely not certain right now). take your screenshots and scram

[Anonymous No.19202853]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

[Anonymous No.19202909]

>>19202796
It's been shilled for like three weeks here. Everyone was saying June it would pay out and to get in before the dividend date, because the stock was going to outperform dividend losses.
The reasoning was there on the fundamental balance sheet, but I didn't buy in because I thought the yield was way too high and made the stock kind of trashy.

Now really, if you are still following the thesis, you should be comfortable with this drop if you bought priori to dividend date on assurance that the oil glut will continue.
Anybody who says this play doesn't inverse oil at all doesn't know what they are talking about.

[Anonymous No.19202911]

0 (ZERO) volume for the past 9 minutes and counting.

[Anonymous No.19202914]

>>19202796
>nobody with more than 5 posts has said there will be a contango spike in this thread.
Thats not what I said retard, you've been playing this up prior to today. You don't just get to sweep it under the rug and pretend that it wasn't a major expectation shared by this general.

Even after all of this you've still got idiots watching for negative oil here:>>19202853
>>19202667

[Anonymous No.19202963]

>>19201496
Our ride is coming.
Last month it only took two hours to get it done. This month looks like it will fuck even harder.

Fuck the news and its bullshit recovery claims.
Fuck Cramer and Youtube causing FOMO/despair
Fuck made up oil wars to kill US shale
Fuck Texans putting oil in swimming pools
Fuck China lying about everything
Fuck Trump and his shitty interventionist crony-capitalist twitter account.

You can't bullshit oil. Oil has the longest, thickest, veiniest cock of any commodity on earth. Oil has been making kings and paupers since before we were born. Oil is king. Oil is god, and god's wrath shall fall upon the wicked and the liars as he slams his awesome cock so deep into the anus of the sinful that they cry out in repentance in his mighty shower of crude oil cum.

Kill. Them. All.

[Anonymous No.19202966]

Volume update:
Today: 9,900 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 13,444 (57.59%)

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 523

Yesterday 11am: 2,381
Today 11am: 201

Yesterday noon: 2,469
Today noon: 0 (in progress)

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19203001]

Lmao, what if we hit negative oil..but tankers still don't moon? Id be satisfied even if I lost money because it proves the market is all a lie

[Anonymous No.19203030]

OH NO
OH NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.19203054]

Drop drop drop drop

[Anonymous No.19203064]

>>19202966

Your Total is off, brosef. Maybe it's coz of delay?
Anyways, it's 12.1k right now and haven't moved for minutes.

[Anonymous No.19203095]

>>19202909
I think you're right on all counts except one - vaguely, but I have qualified saying this thread has not been focused on speculating on contango vs tanker equity prices.
>Anybody who says this play doesn't inverse oil at all doesn't know what they are talking about.
I would qualify that this play is inverse US oil production and specifically shale, not necessarily US oil.

>>19202914
>Thats not what I said retard, you've been playing this up prior to today
yeah and I'm addressing it by saying the threads have been shilling it less and less for the last half week. And PS, I get to do whatever I want because you're a stupid faggot - evident in your post history.
>you've still got idiots watching for negative oil here
there's literally no volume. This shit is potentially going anywhere. Don't you realize that? You lauged at an anon for not knowing what level two is. You obviously should then know that this lack of order volume and the price movements are very scary for anyone potentially speculating on this contract without that data.

[Anonymous No.19203100]

>>19203064
Where are you watching? There seem to be slightly conflicting reports depending on the source. I'm more worried about the curve than the exact number.

[Anonymous No.19203129]

It just went -1.2% on a volume of 3 (THREE).

[Anonymous No.19203135]

>>19203095
>no one is shilling for negative oil
>proceeds to shill for negative oil
kek

[Anonymous No.19203174]

Just noticed.
We contango now.

[Anonymous No.19203173]

>>19203135
>I get to do whatever I want because you're a stupid faggot - evident in your post history.
Just doubling down on that.
>I'm just pretending to be retarded!
>I'm gonna say retarded shit and not address the argument cause YOU'RE the fag
kek

[Anonymous No.19203180]

>>19202963
You're back! Oh, if you think this shit is gonna hit the fan....I'm in. I'm happy. Let's go. Love your euphemisms.

>>19203030
It all keeps, tumbling down tumbling down tumbling doooooown.

[Anonymous No.19203182]

It was never about an "oil futures contango crisis". Who gives a fuck about the paper? The physical delivery crisis is what is happening right now. The paper will correct when the underlying becomes illiquid (spoiler: it already has)

[Anonymous No.19203194]

>negative oil

[Anonymous No.19203198]

>>19203100
I'm watching CL1! on tradingview and getting higher volume today than yesterday by a factor >2 easy. However, CLM2020 seems to be about what you're saying.

[Anonymous No.19203228]

>>19203100
Tastyworks live connection.

[Anonymous No.19203235]

>>19203173
Why are you pretending to be retarded? You're pretty good at it naturally. oh look another one of your retards shilling for contango again: >>19203174

[Anonymous No.19203236]

>>19203182
spoiler it hasn't and spoiler the fact paper will correct when the underlying becomes liquid is why we watch the paper, on assumption that if paper goes to fuckall it further confirms the liquidity problem of the underlying thesis.

[Anonymous No.19203262]

>>19203228
Yeah MarketWatch is on a 10 minute delay. Can you confirm volume 10 minutes ago?

[Anonymous No.19203290]

>>19203235
I'm not shilling it. I'm reporting it with a screenshot.

[Anonymous No.19203292]

>>19203228
Doublecheck they didn't rollover early like many other brokers?

[Anonymous No.19203305]

>>19203290
1.5% is not a contango

[Anonymous No.19203346]

I'm so glad I wasn't born so retarded that I don't know what contango is or does, unlike (((>>19203305)))

[Anonymous No.19203348]

Another 10+ minutes with no volume.

>>19203305
Educate me, then. I genuinely want to learn. My understanding is that contango is a straight-forward relationship between the months.
Ascending = contango
Descending = backwardation

[Anonymous No.19203356]

>>19203235
>he doesn't know board culture and syntax
hahaha

TANKER. CHADS.

[Anonymous No.19203363]

>>19203305
But it's the day, 19th of May

[Anonymous No.19203406]

Just went from 31.34 to 31.65 on LITERALLY zero volume... How?

[Anonymous No.19203408]

>>19203262
there was literally 15 volume in the last 10 min

[Anonymous No.19203436]

>>19203408
I've got to go back 40 minutes to total 40 volume.

[Anonymous No.19203438]

>>19203292
no idea

[Anonymous No.19203487]

>>19203406
There I nobody trading. One person bought 2 contracts. Order book is razor thin

[Anonymous No.19203498]

>>19203436
correct

[Anonymous No.19203531]

>>19203436
Okay, I figured out the problem. You forget that WTI trades 23 hours a day. there you go. I appreciate your countdown, tho. Gives a sense of finality.

[Anonymous No.19203546]

>>19203487
Ah, there it is. Showed up for me one minute after posting that.

>>19203498
Seems like what I've got is at least close enough, then.

Got another pregnant pause right now. Nothing since those 2 at 12:17.

[Anonymous No.19203548]

how many contracts are still open?

[Anonymous No.19203555]

>>19203356
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.19203568]

>>19203531
I didn't forget it, but volume dies at about 2pm.

[Anonymous No.19203575]

>>19203555
ask your manager.

[Anonymous No.19203591]

>>19203548
My best guess is 12,544 at a minimum, but I believe >>19203531 would have more accurate data

[Anonymous No.19203595]

>>19203548
Minimum possibility is like 12k

[Anonymous No.19203642]

>>19203591
>>19203595
how are they going to close 12k OIs in the next 3.5 hours with this kind of volume or am i not understanding how this works?

[Anonymous No.19203649]

We've got 5/29 $10 UCO put volume

[Anonymous No.19203654]

>>19203548
Vol is 12.6k, so the answer is more or less 11k

[Anonymous No.19203660]

>it's been over 3 minutes
>he hasn't called me a faggot
>he hasn't tried framing me as a shill
it's over. try again next thread or after your lunch break

[Anonymous No.19203670]

>>19203642
>how
That's the question of the hour, friend.

[Anonymous No.19203698]

>>19203660
They are due for their Dustin reprogramming any time now.

[Anonymous No.19203699]

>>19203660
I'll be back after lunch to enjoy the contango and tanker mooning with you while pretending no one cares about oil prices. :^)

[Anonymous No.19203747]

>>19203699
We've been saying for a while that what we're concerned about is volume > price but it's a nice attention getter when the price moves down as well.

[Anonymous No.19203786]

The next stimulus package is 3 barrels of crude oil for every American. God bless!

[Anonymous No.19203830]

>>19203642
It's ok to be a retard friend, just be ready to get bullied.
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.19203866]

Volume update:
Today: 10,900 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 12,444 (53.3%)

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 523

Yesterday 11am: 2,381
Today 11am: 201

Yesterday noon: 2,469
Today noon: 15 (in progress)

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19204022]

OH NO WE GOT TOO COCKY TANKERCHADS

[Anonymous No.19204044]

so guys, question remains and was asked before...
what if we have more on the board then last month? where does the price go? :D anyone willing to take a guess?
is the algo keepin it up? it mcD keepin it up? will it plunge into negatives? and what is oprah doing the hole time?

[Anonymous No.19204093]

>>19204044
Storage situation has gotten worse since last month, not better. If there is more OI this month than last month (sure as shit looks like it), the consequences should be substantial.

[Anonymous No.19204118]

>>19204093
But what consequences? Now prices are back up and I simply don't understand the situation. Storage is worse, OI is worse, volume is worse....so why isn't price worse?

[Anonymous No.19204167]

>>19204118
Probably someone else ITT better suited to answer that question but I think everyone may have taken off.

[Anonymous No.19204176]

>>19204118
Guys, the market is fake. Trump WILL NEVER let something like negative oil happen again. Just look what the fed has been allowed to do to save the stock market lol. Now implement that jewish magic to oil as well. No one knows storage is full if no one reports it..

[Anonymous No.19204188]

Sure looks like this is winding down.

Volume update:
Today: 11,200 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 12,144 (52.02%)

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 523

Yesterday 11am: 2,381
Today 11am: 201

Yesterday noon: 2,469
Today noon: 17 (in progress)

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19204195]

>>19204093
I've been trying to find data on the storage utilization in Cushing OK. Anyone know where to find this info? I've looked through TOS and on the EIA website but haven't come up with it yet. It would be nice to know how much of the storage capacity is being used but maybe this data isn't available.

[Anonymous No.19204196]

>>19203180
>>19203180
>You're back!
Don't over-consume day-to-day information. Frequenting this thread is generally not a great idea if you don't have diamond hands, most of it is noise. If you've done your diligence and make a play, stick to it. If you're wrong, you're wrong, it doesn't really matter so long as you're right more often than not. Chances are you'll be fine if emotion doesn't shake you up.

And do I think shit will hit the fan? Yeah, I do. Kids aren't back in school. That's all I need to know to say with confidence that persons projecting oil demand recovery in the short term are completely full of shit.

But even if prices don't shit the bed today, I'm still backing my tanker play on the fundamentals, it's just going to be a much longer timeline to see a good return (this is also why I said a while ago to avoid DHT/FRO because they will under-perform compared to their peers unless you're a contango gambler, which it looks like is turning out to be true). Those that have already time chartered will sit it and make some cash, the older fleet will get scrapped reducing tanker supplies, no new tankers are being produced, new fuels will require extra components to be shipped to refineries, and if Trump goes apeshit on China again we'll be in another boom. An apocalypse would be nice, but isn't necessary at all.

I work out of Long Beach CA. Like I said before, all I need to do is look out of the window to see through the BS.

[Anonymous No.19204199]

>>19204118
Because plenty of people think it's a safe bet, and the money keeps flowing in.>>19204118

[Anonymous No.19204210]

>>19204176
The people who get the bills for storage will know. And if they incur those bills because they've been lied to by the government, I doubt it'd be terribly long before everyone knows.

[Anonymous No.19204212]

>>19204093

I think part of last month's negative oil was a result of analysts pricing in the rate at which storage was filling, and that was the major cause of the fire sale (and USO & UCO). I think that it wouldn't be nearly as bad this time since quants have adjusted the numbers and we aren't hitting tank tops as quickly as expected.

Granted, oil backwardation is retarded. If futures doesn't drop soon, then I think there is some backroom deal for an exchange of oil contracts.

[Anonymous No.19204251]

>>19204212
>backroom deal
HEADS BETTER LITERALLY FUCKING ROLL

[Anonymous No.19204347]

Good thing I sold 10% of my FRO on opening.
Now I get to recoup those stocks at a lower price.

What is that?
You guys don't properly DCA and just buy more everytime?

[Anonymous No.19204371]

>>19204176
It would be nothing short of jewish magic if this didn't fall within an hour and a half. Backwardation....yea, no.

>>19204196
I got diamond hands and holding my tankers regardless too. I am just coming to terms that I might of been wrong shorting oil...or right. Who knows. This is ludicrous considering the lack of demand. And I know, out your window is a whole fleet kek.

>>19204199
>safe bet
>got to take delivery today
hmm....

[Anonymous No.19204380]

>>19204251
>64 posts by this ID
Shut the fuck up, your extreme autism + incredibly low IQ is losing all these niave newfags money with this tanker garbage

[Anonymous No.19204429]

>>19204380
>Shut the fuck up, your extreme autism + incredibly low IQ is losing all these niave newfags money with this tanker garbage
, he said, while offering zero substantive information or backing for his claims and statements whatsoever.

Forgive me.

[Anonymous No.19204430]

>>19204380
post positions

[Anonymous No.19204446]

>>19204212
>last month's negative oil was a result of analysts pricing in the rate at which storage was filling
>it wouldn't be nearly as bad this time since quants have adjusted the numbers and we aren't hitting tank tops as quickly as expected.
It's not doomsday, but the numbers are likely to be manipulated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPRRQcWt2RI
EIA vs IEA reports have an 8 million discrepancy IIRC. The number of tankers floating around is increasing.

>>19204380
Fight the arguments then. Opportunity cost has already been fought with no good response.

[Anonymous No.19204468]

>>19204188
Volumebro, I think we fucked up. The Volume is wrong somehow. Why are we adding yesterday to it? The open interest was 23k at Monday CLOSE = today's OPEN. I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.19204483]

>>19204430
They don't have any. None of the trolls do. They're know-nothing do-nothing faggots who live vicariously through other people and support their idiotic superiority complexes by making unverifiable claims on anonymous messageboards then go back to jacking it to the Cruisin' USA finish line girl.

[Anonymous No.19204506]

>>19204468
Not adding to yesterday's, I'm subtracting.

[Anonymous No.19204560]

>>19204446
EIA report doesn't include offshore storage. Numbers probably aren't being manipulated.

[Anonymous No.19204581]

>>19204506
Why are we not deducting the volume since today's open from the open interest? (23k-1.5k)

[Anonymous No.19204587]

>>19204560
But the tankers are being effectively blockaded and forced to sit there for weeks longer than usual so their oil can't be counted so... manipulated.

[Anonymous No.19204601]

>>19204560
Yeah, i should state that better. Thanks for that. Numbers are fine, but the reports are not.

[Anonymous No.19204621]

>>19204581
Yeah I was saying I don't know why the overall volume reported is an order of magnitude higher than what you get when you add up the hourly volume for the full day.

[Anonymous No.19204628]

>>19204601
fuck, reports on the reports.

[Anonymous No.19204650]

>>19204587
The EIA does not include offshore storage, therefore it's not being manipulated. However, you could make the claim that the data is being misrepresented, since it's not including offshore storage.

If I tell you that a population of 1 has increased 100% it's not the same as a population of 1000. The data is solid, but the it's being misconstrued.

[Anonymous No.19204681]

>>19204650
If they force oil to stay offshore specifically so it cannot be counted, that's manipulation although not of the specific numbers.

[Anonymous No.19204748]

There is no chance they make it through this OI they couldn't even be halfway there yet in the best case scenario.

Volume update:
Today: 11,600 (no idea why this doesn’t match)
Final Day OI: 23,344
Minimum Remaining OI: 11,744 (50.3%)

Yesterday 6am: 626
Today 6am: 92

Yesterday 7am: 1,386
Today 7am: 18

Yesterday 8am: 999
Today 8am: 67

Yesterday 9am: 1,539
Today 9am: 193

Yesterday 10am: 3,051
Today 10am: 523

Yesterday 11am: 2,381
Today 11am: 201

Yesterday noon: 2,469
Today noon: 17

Yesterday 1pm: 1,643
Today 1pm: 10 (in progress)

Yesterday 2pm: 2,595

Yesterday 3pm: 414

Yesterday 4pm: 96

[Anonymous No.19204784]

>>19204748
So....why no dump!? Are they just not lowering their asks or something?

[Anonymous No.19204791]

How are those profits based seacatters and tankerchads? Make enough profit to buy into actual oil companies yet?

[Anonymous No.19204821]

>>19204748
so were past the point of no return.
either massive bullshit today or doomsday again

[Anonymous No.19204841]

>>19204821
seems like everyday is doomsday for tankers

[Anonymous No.19204845]

>>19204784
idk wtf is going on i just smell bullshit

Total volume yesterday was 57k and OI dropped by 31,587 which was like 60% of total OI. Now we're going to drop anything close to the other 40% in one day with no volume?

And if there were no storage issue then WHY THE FUCK would everyone else have abandoned front month so early?

[Anonymous No.19204888]

>>19204821
>>19204845
Here is the real question. If oil doesn't shit the bed today, do we hold oil shorts (if we have them) until tomorrow as well in case there are issues with settlements, or nah? I can see that happening, but who knows, this is magic right now so far.

[Anonymous No.19204931]

>>19204888
Just DCA down like a chad

[Anonymous No.19204960]

>>19204888
I'm holding them to zero and if this shit continues on like this I'm withdrawing everything else I have and never touching any of this again.

Any market that punishes you for recognizing reality and enables hopium trolls is nowhere I am vaguely interested in doing business.

[Anonymous No.19205001]

OH NO NO NO NO NO BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.19205019]

>>19204960
eh, i hopped onto cash, bond etfs, and preferred shares with the rest of my cash. I have some CDs at 2%, so I can throw down for a mortgage soon. If the credit situation keeps getting worse, there's no reason to accept so much downside risk via common stocks.

[Anonymous No.19205043]

>>19204748
Charts that utilize a periodicity of "Daily" will show a different quantity of Volume when compared to charts that utilize an intraday periodicty like 1 minute or 1 Day*. This is caused by the fact that certain types of trades, such as block trades, spread trades and market trades, are considered by the exchange when reporting the cumulative daily volume for a specific symbol or contract. However, those trades are not represented in the tick or 1-minute intraday data for the symbol. These trades together make up the difference observed between the daily volume and the sum of the intraday volume.

[Anonymous No.19205058]

havent checked my brokerage today

are tankers getting shit on?

[Anonymous No.19205060]

>>19200015
The only thing that matters are that tankers are gong to be orbiting the moon because contact roll over today, just you wait.

[Anonymous No.19205089]

>>19205058
Nah pretty neutral. +/- 2% or less for most.

[Anonymous No.19205111]

>>19204960
I just mean SCO, but well, idk. This is pretty stupid at this point. And idk, might make me feel worse if we DO get our dump and it is all in like the last 5 minutes...then it is just "wtf?!" Staying on tankers.

>>19205058
Mixed bag. Some down, some up.

[Anonymous No.19205114]

>>19204960
Don't admit these shills are right and trying to save you money, go down fighting, HODL!!!!!!
>>19204931

[Anonymous No.19205121]

So I'm going to put this here and all of you can help me deconstruct what will happen when we have 10 million barrels being stored in Cushing.

>"Delivery shall be made free-on-board ("F.O.B.") at any pipeline or storage facility in Cushing, Oklahoma with pipeline access to Enterprise, Cushing storage or Enbridge, Cushing storage. Delivery shall be made in accordance with all applicable Federal executive orders and all applicable Federal, State and local laws and regulations.

>At buyer's option, delivery shall be made by any of the following methods: (1) by interfacility transfer ("pumpover") into a designated pipeline or storage facility with access to seller's incoming pipeline or storage facility; (2) by in-line (or in-system) transfer, or book-out of title to the buyer; or (3) if the seller agrees to such transfer and if the facility used by the seller allows for such transfer, without physical movement of product, by in-tank transfer of title to the buyer.
DELIVERY PERIOD (A) Delivery shall take place no earlier than the first calendar day of the delivery month and no later than the last calendar day of the delivery month.

>(B) It is the short's obligation to ensure that its crude oil receipts, including each specific foreign crude oil stream, if applicable, are available to begin flowing ratably in Cushing, Oklahoma by the first day of the delivery month, in accord with generally accepted pipeline scheduling practices.

>(C) Transfer of title-The seller shall give the buyer pipeline ticket, any other quantitative certificates and all appropriate documents upon receipt of payment.

>The seller shall provide preliminary confirmation of title transfer at the time of delivery by telex or other appropriate form of documentation."

[Anonymous No.19205151]

>>19205121
So we might've had a 0.7m barrel draw from Cushing, but do we think it can handle another 10 million barrels of crude? I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.19205241]

>>19205121
>>19205151
I have no idea what will happen. Will oil back up in pipelines and spurt back at the people pouring it in? I don't quite get it.

[Anonymous No.19205279]

>>19205151

I guess people don't really care about the 10 million barrels going to Cushing?

I'm betting that everyone who is bought into the front month is rolling over by selling July/August contracts to offset their position. I mean this is pretty retarded because they've artificially created 10 million barrels worth of physical delivery just to break even. Any other thoughts?

[Anonymous No.19205324]

>>19205279
None, and I doubt there is a single analyst in the entire world qualified to assess the situation.

[Anonymous No.19205399]

>>19205324
Maybe CME Group / TPTB / Trump / FED have realized this and are going to not actually deliver the oil? And then when someone from the July / August buys their contracts they deliver it because oil companies actually do need to sell? But what the fuck happens if they just keep rolling over? The price of the commodity just detaches from the futures, and we just start gambling based on a thin correlation between the commodity itself and the futures contract price?

This whole thing is beginning to sound like a ponzi scheme.

[Anonymous No.19205442]

There is no curse in elvish, entish, or the tongues of men for this kikery

[Anonymous No.19205445]

>>19205399
No delivery is effectively securities fraud and a violation of contract

[Anonymous No.19205506]

So a this point should I just fucking cut my loses and nope the fuck out of tankers? because its pretty clear at this point the market is so fucking manipulated oil is going just fucking moon and im never even going to break even.

[Anonymous No.19205522]

this whole thing has been bullshit and we're all bagholders
i'm fucking out

[Anonymous No.19205561]

>hurr durr where dey gunna put dey oil
JUNE 20TH YOU RETARDS
DID
YOU
REALLY
THINK
NO
STORAGE
WOULD
BE
USED
BY
THEN
?
?
?

[Anonymous No.19205565]

>>19205506
>the market is so fucking manipulated
this is exactly why you might want to play tankers. just saying. where does the physical go if the market is manipulated? It stays onboard. Rates are going to keep going up if the US is trying to fix supply while the rest of the world is full.

[Anonymous No.19205589]

>>19205506
Nah, I'm cold dead hands since the cycle has only begun.

[Anonymous No.19205605]

>>19205565
to add, basically until shit starts exploding. Literally attacked, this play is far from dead.

[Anonymous No.19205627]

>>19205399
It is. Still got roughly 20 minutes left for final result. Only God knows how this plays.

>>19205442
Kek. But truth. This is among the most unexplainable kiked things I have seen in all my life.

>>19205445
So a lot of people are going to jail?

>>19205522
Unironically bullish, not gonna lie champ. Though tankers are disconnected from oil price algos now anyways so who cares, STNG has literally gone up when oil gone up and down when oil goes down today.

>>19205561
>those tankers offshore not counted
>700k in a week, assuming 4 weeks not enough to cover half of the most optimistic estimate of oil coming in from these contracts
Don't check out.

[Anonymous No.19205634]

>>19205506
No. Oil tanker stocks are trading below their book value. Cut your losses if you're not willing to hold for 2 years. Statistically speaking, value portfolios always beats glamour portfolios, don't try and speculate on shitty fly highing tech stocks like SQ, TSLA and UBER.

There are so many other factors contributing to the overall bullish case for tankers, but you obviously haven't done your research and I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

Drop the bags, faggot.

[Anonymous No.19205680]

>>19205442
based treebeard

>>19205506
>1 post by this ID

>>19205522
You do you, but you're jumping at the start of a period of sustained increased earnings, potentially for years if scrappages go according to plan - if you don't need the money right now though then fair enough friend.

[Anonymous No.19205682]

>>19205627
I WANT TO FUCK A SQUID.
>Kek. But truth. This is among the most unexplainable kiked things I have seen in all my life.
the more kiked it gets, the more likely the companies we have bought into will post more insane revenues.

[Anonymous No.19205765]

>>19205522
>>19205506
Yes, please sell me your shares retards. It's a 12-18 month trade. No need to shit your pants over muh manipulated oil market or muh backwardation. This >>19205634