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My hands have only gotten tighter edition

>Highlighted links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I82iGHr3Xg&feature=youtu.be (Overview of tanker thesis)

> Tanker education

>Maritime news
http://www.crweber.com/ (no https)


>Oil news
https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/global_oil.php (look at that V, lol)

>Oil futures

>Past earnings reports (alphabetical)
ASC: EST EPS $0.14, actual $0.20.
DHT: EST EPS $0.54, actual is $0.44 (divvy of $0.35).
EURN: EST EPS $0.86, actual $1.05 (divvy of $1.10).
INSW: EST EPS $1.45, actual $1.49.
NAT: EST EPS $0.26, actual $0.27
NNA: EST EPS $0.00, actual $0.94.
OSG: EST EPS N/A (Q4, 2019 was $0.12)., actual $0.28.
STNG: EST EPS $0.49, actual $0.82.

> Earnings report(s) expected today
None. If I’m wrong, enlighten me.

> Upcoming earnings reports calendar
SFL on 5/19, pre-market
FRO on 5/20, pre-market
TNK on 5/21, pre-market
TNP on 6/4, pre-market

>Oil futures rollover date

Previous threads:

>> No.19179516

First for clown market

>> No.19179568
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Uh oh. Did he finally check his phone? Is he shitting his pants right now? Oil still treking down, need to go way more though.

>> No.19179570

If oil doesnt go negative today the tanker chads were wrong and are tanker cucks

>> No.19179580



Even though they cut production it doesn't mean they cut exports. There is still hope for tanker gang.

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>> No.19179586

The more it rises, the more certain I get that the DOW will be at 15k soon. Shows how stupid the majority is

>> No.19179590
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second for i think i may have set it off by tweeting about the crude/dow connection

they were in lockstep until literally the moment i tweeted the charts at calvinfroedge

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Who is this mystery hero that pumped oil this morning?
Where did he come from?
Why would he do it?
What does he want (obviously not money)?
Perhaps we may never know, but god bless you for your sacrifice, truly a knight as dark as the oil he will drown in.

Elevator to hell baby, going down.

I've said what I have to say. I'll admit I was wrong about oil if it isn't in the toilet by tomorrow at noon. I won't admit I was wrong about tankers because they're still trading below their fundamentals because thumbsuckers somehow think storage is the only thing they're good for

>> No.19179634

>Who is this mystery hero that pumped oil this morning?
it's literally some retard who left an algo running that tracked the DOW

>> No.19179650


>We got to cocky oil bulls! Pull the plug

>> No.19179655
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highest downard pressure of the day are those two big downward spikes within the last 45 minutes when crude decoupled from the DOW

>> No.19179668

Pump on 0 volume, a future's rollover will clean out the buy side orderbook, will be an interesting day

>> No.19179670
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Just tanked to 7%!!! Looks like we're riding this rollercoaster to hell if you ask me....

>> No.19179684

damn my penny stock is up 30% but my tankies are down like -15%

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>> No.19179692

Am I going to die holding or is there still a chance my tankers will go profitable this week?

>> No.19179703

You fucked up son, somebody was going to get absolutely bodied by their own machine, would have been hilarious.

>> No.19179705

>profitable this week?

honestly probably not. i fully expect to be bagholding for a couple months

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based anon. We'll remember you if you're suicided.

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Gotta love oversight. Or rather, purposeful loopholes.

Maybe the guy was viewing Calvin's twitter or yours even. Then he went "OH SHIT!" Imagine if it was Calvin himself, kek.

We may never know. But all we do know is that he was an asshole who forgot to turn off his algorithm for the past 5 fucking days. I hope the sex or vacation that was distracting him was worth it.

Holy shit, you actually warned him! Well, might be better this way. That man has you to thank and owe his life to.


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I believe our time has come tankies

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>> No.19179819

If it works out ill apologize for calling you a nigger some time before. footfag

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>> No.19179877

backwardation has plunged to .19%
we heading right side up nao

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Yeah its down more than 3%, but a 10 minute candle, with extremely high volume, only resulted in 3% down. The fact that there's resistance to the drop is what the good news is about. Don't get me wrong, i want the stock to go up, but when you've got lemons, make lemonade.

>> No.19179910

Such a nice dip, such potential profits...
Oh wait... it closes at 5pm...

But hey, it's normal for price to rollover at same price as the futures, so good!
Oh wait... July contract is cheaper at the moment...

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sorry for the meme lines but does anybody else see a breakout forming?

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Comfy divvies and good returns will come to you, but only if you reply "HOLD ON SEA CAT" in this thread

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It's okay. Wait until Tuesday anyways regardless. The stock market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient, as Buffet said. I am just waiting until the end result. If I am wrong, well, fuck me and call me whatever you want. But I won't call it quits until then.

Let's set up another contango. One more time baby.

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it's tracking the DOW again
i think what's going on is that there are several algos all tracking the DOW... somebody saw the tweet and had an "... OH SHIT" moment and turned theirs off/sold, and now the others are just humming along like nothing happened

we got a high volume dump and now the low volume tracking just keeps plugging away

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>> No.19180040

I gotta admit dht was not a comfy divy

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Maybe none of the algo users saw the tweet. Someone else holding contracts did then lost all confidence and went OH SHIT.

This is insane. He needs to pick up the phone RIGHT NOW.

>> No.19180081

$.35 per share even at $8 a share is an annual return of 17.5% if they can maintain it through the quarters. Since their rates are contracted through the year they will. How's that not comfy?

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if it's still coupled to the DOW WTI should have a big green candle in the next 5 minutes

>> No.19180258


Tanker bros, we weren't wrong, the oil is literally being blockaded by Trump. This is fucking hilarious their solution is STALLING.

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I have another $700 going in Monday. Just do the safe plays and over ten years you will make a shit ton of money.
Thinking about averaging down on DHT and crude shorts. Unsure.

>> No.19180318

you can't even imagine my frustration right now

>> No.19180321
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>worlds reserves are filling up if not full already
>world is also shut down or shuttering again
>US oil reserves leveling off and dropping
>there's a blockade
holy kek

>> No.19180363

>exactly one hour ago
ok that explains the WTI dip
good to know it wasn't my tweet

i was no fan of trump before, but this whole experience just takes it to a whole new level... i've been watching his twitter to see if he's decided to manipulate the market that day

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Annnnd.......social policy be damned, I can't vote for this again. I know I am right wing and love freedoms and democrats are blood sucking satan worshiping vampires, but god dammit they at least don't have the audacity to fuck with my free market.

Your image is about right, I can't believe it.

He manipulates it often. Complete interventionist.

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Check out the volume on the July contract lol

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>> No.19180683


This is disgusting. You can't vouch for free market and capitalism then block off oil imports unless those tankers are filled with fucking bombs. I am furious with the inadequacy of our government, and Trump tweeting about an oil victory is just icing on the shit cake.

He is literally toying with our free market.

>> No.19180725

Yeah I'm really fucking mad about this. Trump is singlehandedly holding the petrodollar up right now like an obese New York Atlas. I'm going to bed.

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well at least i'm right in the coupling being suspicious

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Oil demand rising, yeah right, you can't sink the tankerchads.

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has it finally begun

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So the government is basically buying oil at the cost of the US tax base and manipulating the imports? Along with Trump rushing the re-opening to prop-up oil demand?
Oooohooo say can you see, by the dawns early light

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>You can't vouch for free market and capitalism then block off oil imports
I'm all about trade protectionism, but this is like, a hamfisted act. State governments pull shit like this too, but damn. It's fucking kek. We'll just have to see what happens. Rates are going to skyrocket if all these ships are just shitting around. kick back and relax with JP Morgan and Citi. We're going to be raping Hess and other suppliers.

>> No.19180907

>So the government is basically buying oil at the cost of the US tax base and manipulating the imports?
Even if they were.
Where are they storing it?
Does the US goverment have crude tanks?

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Hey, they know what is good for us more than we do. Based Powell on 60 minutes last night,
"there is no limit to what we can do. We can just print money forever and worry about it later. Now is not the time to worry".

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This guy hates freedom and the foundation on which America was built

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I liked the tactical retreat your marketing manager had last thread. They chewed you out good, huh? Don't bother trying to fix it. we'll smell you miles away.

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I know. The real killer is how dishonest he is about it, tweeting how this is a victory for oil too. That mother fucker. Celebrating manipulating the market. I hope oil shits the bed now not for profit, but just to fuck him up.

I hope it continues. Crater into negative again. If some demon popped up and offered me a deal to sell my SCO now at a loss and he would turn the price negative for me, I would fucking do it.

That is the only good thing. Rates will go straight up. Which will confuse the hell out of investors if oil stays propped up.

Did...he actually say that?

>> No.19180995

Even if the government is buying oil where are they going to store them? The strategic reserves were pretty much full for about a month now
The only logical next step is the government contracting out oil storage which is unironically bullish for tankers

>> No.19181015

>an annual return of 17.5%
Actually I'm already below -17.5% with this shit.
I also have to pay taxes after the shitty $.35, so in reality it's far from 17.5%.

Fuck this shit man, I forgot the rule again and got rused.
>Allways do the opposite of what /biz/ does

>> No.19181046

I sold out of oil because of the glut. If I had held on to my oil and realized nothing is actually real I would be making money. I really cannot believe this is happening.

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>Did...he actually say that?
this is ALWAYS with regard to what he will do to maintain liquidity. It has nothing to do with anything else. He only ever EVER gives a damn that companies have a functioning market to buy and sell debt.

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as volume dropped, the trend to follow the DOW got more pronounced and moved in more extreme amounts

because the fucking algos are the only ones trading anymore and they're all doing the same thing at the same time

blue line = WTI front month
black line = DOW

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the past couple hours are when we finally start to see meaningful divergence

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Yeah, I am not even kidding. It was basically "we can do this forever, don't worry. The fed has so much more room than this to save the markets". Basically acting as if there is zero reason to be concerned about the debt/GDP ratio. We're going to address the problem, but just not now or probably ever was the attitude I got from the interview. At least the MSM is humoring the people by acknowledging it.
Probably reason for a tax hike down the line.

>> No.19181236


that's a lot of tankers


>> No.19181241

Tight hands here. Although the red hurts. Have a lot of faith in DHT which has chartered its fleet for a large part anyway. Production will always, due to geopolitical reasons, be higher than demand. Storage will be full and even without it tankers will do fine.

But the moon mission, which I was never for, is not going to happen anytime soon. We will see a steady increase with divvies in top. I am looking forward to Q3 earnings for one. The next leg down might have happened by then but who knows. Nothing is certain in this clown market. All I know is DHT is seeming more and more like value investing to me.

Svein, take your time, make me some divvies and work that fleet, my man.

>> No.19181265

so do they live on the ships when this happens or do they get ferried inland to a hotel?

>> No.19181267

I was thinking the same thing. Isn't this bullish for tanker companies? Those tankers are still collecting their daily rates for storing the oil, no? All of you retards should have realized the stocks would dump when OPEC announced production cuts which everyone should have seen coming given market conditions. The tanker companies benefit from the oil glut so a blockade really doesn't impact their bottom line at the moment since the daily rate is still very high. While the VLCCs are at anchor they should be making even more money as there's none of the cost associated with those ships being underway.

>> No.19181269

>what is the strategic petroleum reserve

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>> No.19181301

how big do you think that is?

do you understand how much oil we're talking about, here?

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>Probably reason for a tax hike down the line.
The tax hike will be from the loans required for municipalities that are going bankrupt. They can't fund civil services because no one is able to pay taxes and also draining UI and pension funds. It's a really really shit situation for state and local governments, because they really don't have too much control over things. they will unironically reap what they've sewn. The actions that banks and corps take with the money they've been able to obtain... this is a differernt topic entirely. I think we've been watching brinkmanship between the fed reserve and banks since at least september.

>> No.19181325

Already full.

They're from Philippines they don't need to eat much

If DHT drops below $4.75 I'm selling my house and investing everything.

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Please for the love of God, I will forgive Trump for all his market manipulation if he contracts excess oil out to tankers. It would be glorious.

What a cuck.

Well fuck me. We still got half an hour until pit closes, and 3 hours until oil market for the day closes. So really, what now? What happens if this mother fucker never turns them off?

Mother fucker. The US will be crippled even worse than now. We are gonna need hundreds of dollars soon for bread.

Clearly bearish, must sell. Yea. Totally.

>> No.19181369

What does that have to do with anything? His question was does the government have tanks to store oil.

>> No.19181397

Adding to this: A blockade should lead to a higher % of these tanker companies fleets being chartered which is also bullish for these companies. I don't get why anyone invested in tanker stocks would be mad about this. Am I wrong? Someone correct me if so.

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thank you anons who have lead us here, and thank you Fidelity for paying for the shills that kept bumping the threads.

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>> No.19181451

Fuck it, the banks know they are going to get bailed out. It's a lever for free money and the god damn chimps at the bank are going to keep pulling it. Personally, I didn't expect to see negative interest rates as soon as we are probably going to have them.
We've got time left to get value out of the economy, but I think our real-estate markets are going to get absolutely shot when the big crash does happen.

>> No.19181485

Not if nobody wants to contract tankers for the contango play. A big reason we saw the rate spike was because of the super contango, if Trump were to let the Saudi flotilla dump then we'd have negative crude. So yes, you're wrong.

>> No.19181512

Those tankers arent sitting out there for free. Also means less tankers available to take on any additional crude

>> No.19181547

I think we should be more worried about the zombie corps and state funds, but yes, the banks are the ones that pull the lever.
>real-estate markets are going to get absolutely shot
I think the only realistic scenario that will do this will be if the banks get shot and boomers start realizing there's no buyers. We'll have to see. The banks getting shot meaning like actually fucking rekt. The rates spiking upisn't enough for a full on crash, i think.

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low volume pumps aren't quite doing it anymore

>> No.19181639

Holy shit

>> No.19181657

My question is, why do we even have a bank that has the right to profit off the Federal Reserve distribution? My college loans are 2.0% from the Federal Reserve.

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>the old indian
>we're fucking full
>someone's gonna pay for it
>we're gonna need more
cha-fucking-ching. Anons might be right about the fucking second and third order effects, holy shit.
>pic related - Brandon in pink

>> No.19181704

It keeps going...the dip wasnt enough to scare people

>> No.19181722

I bought $500 in shares today because I am in it for a swing, not dividends. I might HODL through june depending, but yeah I was suprised so many people bet on the dividend.
Green day tomorrow.
I think it will hit six again tomorrow and crude will get knocked down to some extant by WTI tomorrow as well, but not a sure-bet.

>> No.19181763

it's still tracking the DOW
divergences are ALL high volume down, or low volume rebalancing after a surge down

with every surge down it's like you can see somebody saying, "oh wait that's right negative prices ssseeeeeLLLLLLLLLLLL" as they each happen in the span of 5-10 minutes and the climbs back up are slow and not as high

>> No.19181772

Interesting video from a few threads ago


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I'm not the retard who bought tankers. I bought solid oil companies that will survive and bought them for cheap while you dumb niggers hodl and post your gay seacat copeshit.

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>> No.19181810

Just because the contango trade isn't in play doesn't mean the tanker companies aren't still lining their pockets at the moment. Fundamentally tanker companies are making a killing right now and the negative sentiment is a good thing for picking up shares at a cheap price.

>> No.19181825

>dumb niggers
he's breaking his programming

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>> No.19181846

Sorry to say lads but it won't. I'm considering closing all tanker positions because they just keep going down regardless.

>> No.19181854

Why are you so mad about it?

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>> No.19181879

>CNBC saying there's no full storage
>everything back online, everyone driving
>nobody will have problem accepting delivery
>V shaped recovery for oil
>Everyone should invest into oil right the fuck now
This better be a legendary -99999 rollover or I'll be mad as HELL.

>> No.19181900

Looking back on the 5 year charts shows it could drop another 20% and stay there for years, I’m not sure i’m willing to go boomer long on stuff that will likely have its dividends cut after the first 3 quarters.

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What are you going on about? What next, don't post wooden doors? If saying niggers is such a big deal for you to make that post, you need to go back.

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was that just now?
because if i were trying to manipulate this market up, exactly now is when i'd be pulling out all the stops

>> No.19181932

The PR tomorrow is going to be insanely negative for tankers. If it doesn’t drop another 10% it would be a miracle.

>> No.19181933

Yes, less than 5 minutes ago.

>> No.19181946

when you have the same paid shill for weeks, you get used to language tendencies

you're a new one

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>some brokerages don't allow trades on June
>many impose strict margin limits for it
>ridiculously low volume
>highest volume movements are dumps

How aren't these bulls buying along with algo-man scared shitless? How far does greed go?

This Murphy cuck oil trader should be publicly shamed. Everyone shilling oil today should be on there. They are just flat out lying and praying that lies turn into reality if enough people throw money at it.

Yep. 5 minutes ago-ish.

>> No.19181985

Tankers appear to have bottomed. Only dht dumped due to the fat divvie

>> No.19181991

I hate to say it but I'm starting to feel a bit demoralized

>> No.19181999

Could be, but what are all the institutions going to do? They're very heavily invested in all the tankers right now.

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he's better at it, and I think he's newer than this morning or yesterday - much much better shills if not anons. Brandon might have gotten canned. May St. Carroll have mercy

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they went to UCO and got immediately bogged

>> No.19182018

If I have a stock on the ex. Dividend and record dates but sell it before the dividend payout date I still get the dividend right?

>> No.19182024

For today, Im talking if contango doesn’t happen tomorrow media outlets all over the world will be shilling against tankers. It’ll be a disaster.

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>what are all the institutions going to do
sit around, double down, collect divvies, have a coffee. who knows.

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>> No.19182049

That’s what people said about buffet before he announced his sale in airlines at a loss.

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>> No.19182077

They'll be sitting on a large loss, and quite frankly time is going to reduce the theoretical peak of tankers as their profit will go down when things start restarting. By this time next year we should be about back to normal high value instead of this record-breaking shit.

>> No.19182100

I do to. But fuck it, I believe in the sector and companies. Got sealegs now.

>> No.19182115

Mad, it's pretty amusing desu. Meanwhile covered calls on HAL, XOM, ET, USAC, MRO, APA, or any other good company would allow you to print or swing trade while people here baghold sucking up cash while waiting for a perfect pump when they could have been using that cash for other things. May I interest you in some MVIS, I heard MSFT is buying them. Just DCA bro

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Kek. Hey, at the end of the day, all I know is that the current spot price for oil is 21 dollars and we are trading at 31. With contracts expiring tomorrow. idk about you, but I am holding my bet no matter what bullshit CNBC says.

>> No.19182137

Stop trying to dictate what the market MUST do by a given date, things are never so simple. Have real timelines and just watch the market play out. Be a patient investor. You guys set yourselves up for disappointment.

>> No.19182179

Yeah I stop in here occasionally to see what anons are saying while i’ve pulled it good profits from ET consistently for the last month. I can’t imagine being stuck in this sector long term and not being able to take full advantage of other great opportunities.

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literally just watch the CBS report >>19181444
this play is far from over. contango situation on oil roll over is nothing more than a data point for confirmation or a swing. That video confirms more than enough to take this out of highly speculative to speculative for me.

>> No.19182195

Post your positions.

>> No.19182214

LMAO giving a hard time going against people who cope about losing money is "shilling". Also the only kind of posts I have ever done are above.

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>he thinks he has any arguments when he absolutely glows

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high volume dumps
low volume pumps

>> No.19182289

People giving honest opinions that have no money in the sector are “shills” yet it’s people with money riding on the mental gymnastics circlejerk somehow aren’t shills.

>> No.19182309

>these two samefagging tourists spamming asinine bullshit and activating wordfilters

Use as many IDs as you want, my dudes, it's very easy to check on our end.

>> No.19182336

You aren't "giving a hard time" you are in here literally 10 hours every day. You are paid to do this or you are mentally ill

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Is the general consensus here shorting or longing? New to the threads

>> No.19182382

buy and hold i think. potentially long. I'm not an options fren.

>> No.19182385

In the last 7 days it went from short term moon mission to long term dividend hold.

>> No.19182456

No longer clear in my opinion. It was a sure thing weeks ago but now, all our expectations were dashed against the wall. We have basically guaranteed really fat dividends for about a year, so this is a possible play. A moon mission is still possible, but every day it's less likely. I wouldn't be comfortable shorting here, but I may buy protective puts 6+ months out if movement doesn't improve by end of week.
All the fundamental and situational indicators scream BUY BUY BUY but for some reason, the price action is not following.

>> No.19182468

>honest opinions
>have no money in the sector

>> No.19182500


Scorpio Tankers Interview is up

>> No.19182512

Yes people who are bagholding money for tankers and have a massive loss sure can't shill for tankers, right? Only things that can be shills if they against YOU, right? What were you faggots doing in /smg/ last month when you were spamming tanker stocks? That couldn't be called shilling because that would mean your a hypocritical kike. The projection you do is on par with jidf.

>> No.19182523

In other words a lot of bagholders were born on the false hope of a super contango?

>> No.19182551

I set a buy order for DHT at 5,50. I hope they don't hit that but I am prepared if they do.

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>> No.19182595

It was a huge big money swing trade shipped in /smg/ storing may contacts that they now cope with saying it's a solid divvy when if that were true there are better divvy stocks, but if you recommend better things you are a schizo shill.

>> No.19182599

Id set it for $5, would be a lot safer. This will be a rough week so you might get a great opportunity.

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he's not mentally ill.
He's in an active coordinated campaign. Look at his images. He even mentions the jidf. no one has done it yet except for him.

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just stopping by to savor the tears

>> No.19182709

today is the second fucking trading day and front month WTI just decoupled from the DOW with high volume downward surges

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>> No.19182739

Make another prediction for us. :^)

>> No.19182760

i'll stick with the ones you already posted that all point to tomorrow

>> No.19182775

You're gonna get fired or your contract won't be renewed if you're supposed to be making people sell because you're shit at blending in and can't actually do anything other than spark contrarians to buy. Screencap this.

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If you are soooooooo smart, and you understand the complexities of Global Economics why are you here on /pol/?

Seems to me you are a fool who cant except reality, all you can do is piss and moan about things that you lack the ability to adapt to..............................

You are PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So should I try and short WTI?

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Yes please keep buying it gets more hilarious by the day that you think you can hurt me by throwing your money away.
Great! Cant wait for tomorrow.

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top kek. tip top kek. dialate.

>> No.19182875

There should be a betting websites for /biz/tard predictions, specific shit like this or "bitcoin 15k by tomorrow!!!!". Would help settle scores.

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>> No.19182905

You aren't below if you haven't sold. And what's your dividend tax rate? A 15% dividend tax rate (in the .35 per $8 stock scenario) would change the 17.5% return to roughly 15%. If you think an annual return of 15% is bad, you're just an idiot.

>> No.19182941

Easy profits betting against this thread.

>> No.19182972

>someone told me not to spend money so i’m going to spend a lot more to spite them

>> No.19183023

if his boss wants people to sell, the marketing team should know that a FUD campaign on shitcoin central, a place filled with contrarians, will just make people buy.

>> No.19183086

And yet you didn't, faggot, and you could. It would just make it more evident.
Look, I think cryptofags are dumbasses, but do I gloat in their threads every time their stupid predictions go south? No, because I had no clue what the fuck was going to happen either, and that's why I didn't bet against it. But you pretend you actually do understand what's going on and tankercucks do not, yet you wont back that bullshit with money, but you come in every single one of these threads for supply, for just about every market movement. You're biggest retard by far.

>> No.19183122

>you come in every single one of these threads for supply
nah he comes into every thread to get paid.

>> No.19183168

Is Brandon here? I really really need to chat with Brandon........................................

Brandon where are you????????

>> No.19183183

What /biz/ does makes no difference, who'd bother doing that? They have a giant web of dumbfucks on every investment forums on the internet? Doubt it.

>> No.19183196

I can be your brandon tonight. You dom't know how dividends work. Checkmate

>> No.19183216

>selling my tankers and buying oil companies when it was still profitable and not bagholding to yearly lows is retarded
I bet against you and won, now i’m here to salt mine you faggots for thinking you didn’t miss the peak. Your projection is off the charts, these threads are like looking into the bernie campaign HQ every four years.

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The real question is what will the open interest be when it updates at 6 p.m. ET? I want to know the open interest going into tomorrow with everyone catching this falling knife.

>> No.19183243

>I bet against you and won
Oh yeah how much? What was your trades?

>> No.19183267

post your positions or GTFO faggot

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>They have a giant web of dumbfucks on every investment forums on the internet?
It might be for lulz. we're all confused too. see for yourself and pass your own judgement. Just monitor the threads and you'll see.
Like what the fuck are these
Same for
Who knows. It's marginally better than Brandon, but at least I grew to like that one.

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Max comfy itt. Thanks for not disappearing when shit hit the fan, it’s going to make this week extra special.

>> No.19183290

What the FUCK IS dom't supposed to mean? You must be a faggot that will not be back

>> No.19183299

It would be funny if somebody is buying all the oil while high on hopium. Thinking that there will be demand and storage soon with all the news of opening up. Would be funny if these people soon realise that this is not going to happen and they actually have a shitload of oil to get. They would need to call all the oil tanker companies to get some place to put all that shit. I mean, it is a physical commodity in the end.

>> No.19183312

Post them you stupid faggot!

>> No.19183331

So guys, are we still getting our pump tomorrow?

>> No.19183341

nobody is buying the oil
it's an algorithm and they just started getting turned off 3 hours ago

>> No.19183400

Just keep the bag hodl and lose money, tankers suck lol.

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>> No.19183420

Thats EXACTLY what we expected: NOTHING!

You are TRANNY gaggott>

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>You are all wrong and I am more correcter then all of you

>I am here to rub salt in the wounds of which the guiding hand has inflicted. I'm betterer then all of you feeble peasants.


okay cool

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Same. Ignoring profits and future scrap and oil being...oil in 2020, these are worth the hold just for the sake of NAV and deleveraging. Unless if it is NAT.

You know something is wrong when our general has more shitposts than chainlink threads and other shitcoins.

>> No.19183494

Good shit, thanks.

>> No.19183504

No you'll get another 10% down tomorrow and 20% down by the end of the week.

>> No.19183580

>surprised people are shitposting all over you after telling everyone a spectacular moon mission was coming that never materialized
You kinda should expect that when you you run on hopium and are wrong.

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This is how they expect us to respond:


>Oh, you didn't actually short the stock and are just shitposting? You didn't make any money?

>> No.19183660

Is it happening

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stop doing this to yourself

>> No.19183776

This, once in a blue moon he'll make a prediction that just ends up being vaguely correct and he'll stroke his dick over it while forgetting the other 99% he got wrong. Can't do that if you put money behind it, you'll go bankrupt.

>> No.19183801

I'm still waiting for anyone here to make a prediction in favor of tankers thats vaguely correct.

>> No.19183821

Well STNG is up 1% so suck my dick faggot, I predicted it would be green.

>> No.19183830

That's the thing, our predictions might be wrong but they're actually worth something, to people listening or betting against it, unlike yours.

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>moon missions are 1% up in tanker world after dropping 5% daily for the last 3 weeks

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>> No.19183868

You asked for a correct prediction, let's hear yours

>> No.19183892

Mine was that no super contango would happen again. I was right.

>> No.19183995

Ah shit I still don't care.

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Would suck toe only if a cute girl shill. But anyways, the date is still tomorrow. Today is just a prelude.

STNG is making me happy. All my tankers are up now. EURN is effectively even, FRO up, and DHT up when you account for divvy. I need them to go up a bit more though to balance my loss on SCO.

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>> No.19184027

>end of lockdown being announced all over the world, productivity increases again
>heat wave approaching, good for reducing covid anxiety
>world has had an entire month to prepare for june futures delivery because so much value is being lost

lmao you guys didn't buy xom and cvx calls at open?

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>see news story

>> No.19184134

incoming WTI red dildo
big one

>> No.19184145

I'm long tanker but you guys keep setting yourselves up to fail with unrealistic timelines and expectations.

>bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered

>> No.19184157

based. play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>> No.19184178

Everything is bigger in Texas

>> No.19184183

It's still not time so what the fuck are you on about? At least try to be consistent.

>> No.19184202

I'm trying to coax more hopium out of you guys so that the nothingburger is even sweeter tomorrow. It's working.

>> No.19184240

>massive green dildo

>> No.19184266

see >>19184145
and >>19183490
>guys keep setting yourselves up to fail with unrealistic timelines and expectations
>these are worth the hold just for the sake of NAV and deleveraging. Unless if it is NAT

>> No.19184270

3-5 more minutes

>> No.19184286

30mins till oil goes through the floor.

>> No.19184311

also see:

>> No.19184327

Good, I hope you buy more shit tanker stocks. Have fun when oil demand rises and you are left with cut divvy, oh wait you will have your seacat pride

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how are we doing tanker "chads"
everything in oil is doing great right now, well everything besides tankers lol

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yeah, hence the
>guys keep setting yourselves up to fail with unrealistic timelines and expectations
I actually think the expectations are too low for exactly how much government fuckery is going to go on. I still think it's a speculative play, but the tankers waiting on the coasts are kinda damning to landlubbers.

do you like getting called a faggot all day for money?

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I'll get more, gotta stay comfy m8.

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less than an hour till 5 wagies. I think brandon would get off in 10 minutes.

>> No.19184497

actually the only tankers that are down were DHT, which was expected, and NAT

might actually be bullish for tankers since we finally decoupled from the oil price. usually when oil went up, tankers went down. now they both can go up, which is nice

the problem this general has been having is not that we're wrong, its just we were too early when we bought in. most of us would have been better off if we bought in May instead of March or April

>> No.19184519

My tankers are FLYING nigga!

>> No.19184534

Why do you want me to leave? Your thread would die without us making fun of you retards.

>> No.19184542

DHT finished up. NAT had a big fish shit on it.

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Sorry, I buy actual oil companies, XOM, CVX, HAL, APA, COP, MRO, and so on, so I do get money. Hmm the entire market largely was green, lets see how the chad DHT did, wow luckily for you, cats have 9 lives. Doesn't look so good considering you could swing trade SOXL and make more, but hey many meows to you good sir.

>> No.19184549

being too early is the same as being wrong kek

>> No.19184575

Brandon, Brandon where are you? Brandon please, please help us!!!!!!!!

>> No.19184578

>we were too early when we bought in. most of us would have been better off if we bought in May instead of March or April
No that would be too late, if you bought in March April that was FOMO. Early would have been February and it would have given you big gains already.

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Holy shit, AH pump all of a sudden. Wtf are they doing. We pump pre market, dump market, now pump AH back to pre-market and higher. Well. Guess today was a good day after all.

>> No.19184583

>the problem this general has been having is not that we're wrong, its just we were too early
that's called "being wrong" you idiot

>> No.19184584

UwU I want my cozy wozy threadie weadies back >.<

This isn't fair!! OwO

I wiww nowt be coming bawck tuwu these thweads anymowe, uwu awe juwst aww meanies! i juwst wawnt tuwu discuss infowmation abouwt tankews in peace :(

>> No.19184595

>DHT finished up. NAT had a big fish shit on it.


DHT finished down about -4.75% today

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>> No.19184621

Not finishing down 5% is a green day for DHT.

>> No.19184645

immediately after closing

>> No.19184665

>everyone that thinks tankers post-contango are stupid play is one person
absolutely delusional cope

>> No.19184675


>> No.19184709

Covid wasnt really mainstream in February - maybe during the last week. the only way you would have known about it is if you lurk /pol/ when they started having daily threads. I saw those threads but didnt think much of it because there's always some crazy virus coming from China, it's not even a surprise

tankers have always been volatile. if you expected it to only go up then you arent' familiar w/ these stocks. we saw the contango coming, demand crashing and putting money in tankers who would benefit from that is fundamentally a good play. what we did not factor in was clown market

>> No.19184721

You're right, I think I already said thank you.
See you in a month. If you work for a financial institution, how are you buying and selling? I guess you're outsourced, huh.

kek nice catch

There once was a shill named Brandon
Who was paid to post on 4chan by Goldman...

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>You're right, I think I already said thank you.
You're welcome

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Probably going to end my positions if nothing happens by EOD June 1.

>> No.19184783

Who are you trying to convince here? Me or you?
If you expected the price to fluctuate down why didn't you just wait? You are waiting for a contango event that will never arrive.

>> No.19184794

if DHT pumps more tomorrow i'm gonna try to sell some and get more EURN and FRO. I did pretty good selling DHT pretty market today at 6.08 and buying back sub 6.

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>> No.19184884

>If you expected the price to fluctuate down why didn't you just wait?
because he's coping by pretending to know whats happening

>> No.19184898

>If you expected the price to fluctuate down why didn't you just wait?

i expected fluctuations but no, i did not expect -15% drops. the fundamentals will catch up; my tankers are trading at like 50% NAV right now; thats not going to last forever. i entered these positions as multi-month swing trades and thats what i'm sticking to

the real questioin now is do I sell when they come back to even or do i continue to hold

>> No.19184950

I'm going to sell DHT at some point because it's just confusing me a lot. Put it into oil and hold EURN. Play FRO by ear

>> No.19184954

Next stop: May 19th

>> No.19184958

The best honest decision would be to sell most of it at break even and put it into sectors that are clearly recovering post lockdown rather than straight up gambling on supercycles and contango.

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>> No.19185053

STNG and FRO both mooning after-hours
somebody jumping the gun?

>> No.19185104

It'll crash at open like usual.

>> No.19185115

Good, I'll just buy some more

>> No.19185167

How many shares are you up to now?

>> No.19185190

Every time you try to shake me off I buy 2 shares

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What the fuck is going on, now EURN is up too. Tankers are fucking going right up now, wth is going on? I love it, but it is confusing. Is this the true sentiment showing going into Tuesday?

>> No.19185216

oh okay so you're poorfagging, you must be up to like 50 shares total then? kek

>> No.19185243

They were oversold today so you're getting the rubberband effect. Expect a drop on open or premarket tomorrow.

>> No.19185262

Dropping now.
Low volume bullshit

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Why is this shit general still up and running? Bagholders eternally btfo. You gotta trade like a wall street coke addict degenerate if you want to make it. While you hold these heavy bags, market was up 3% and you lost money and all these opportunities. Fucking retards. Stop becoming close acquaintances with stocks and taking /biz/ memes seriously.

>> No.19185327

for this thread it's 50. If we include other threads, he might be up to 1k by now.

>> No.19185352

heavy doubt on that one, anyone poor enough to buy 2 at a time certainly doesn't have 1k

>> No.19185380
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>> No.19185394

2.6 shekels is enough for a share. you can try SHIP if you want to join the ranks with more than one share.

>> No.19185418
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This, but unironically

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>> No.19185555
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This but unironically


>> No.19185576

oh shit I have 10 calls for august, epic.

>> No.19185606
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cheked, based, comfy and shantypilled

>> No.19185611

This, but unironically

>> No.19185639
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At least you guys are being honest about it not being about profit. Although I can think of less expensive ways of being comfy.

>> No.19185657

Can someone tell me what this tweet was about, its deleted.

>> No.19185672
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You know I fucked your mom, right?

>> No.19185714

Said coast guard was not letting tankers into CA docks or something along those lines

>> No.19185716

US fed govt allegedly "blockading" tankers to prevent letting tankers unload "cheap" oil.

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We're a nice bunch here, we'd welcome you tourists with open arms if you weren't so insistent on being obnoxious - it should be fairly clear by now that FUD doesn't work with contrarion faggots like us. You would be just as well getting comfy and enjoying the fucking crazy ride these meme stocks provide along with us.

>inb4 losses
i'm back in the green, my man - have another shanty on me:

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the AH pump is here boys

>> No.19185858

>Production will always, due to geopolitical reasons, be higher than demand.

You're betting against a decades-long tradition of oil producing countries being able to cut production when needed. Situations where they couldn't find an agreement, like the one that led to the recent price collapse, where always short term in nature.

>> No.19185882

You're showing your (lack of) age, my man.

>> No.19185908

>You're betting against a decades-long tradition of oil producing countries being able to cut production when needed.

>> No.19185984

Yeah, OPEC didn't work, storages have always been overflowing, tankers have been making trillions. Sorry, forgot about that.

>> No.19185996

All of this is unironically true, bro. Inform yourself.

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your brain on tankers

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Our autistic sea shantys will continue to until every single tanker stock goes bankrupt or to the moon. Nobody in this thread gives a shit about your generic "muh buy oil company" opinions. If I wanted to hear that I wouldn't cover your ancient mom's mouth when I fuck her.

>> No.19186048

Thank me later.

>> No.19186076

this has got to be bait please tell me this is bait

>> No.19186107

Here bro, I've got your back.
Look here: >>19186048
No need to thank me!

>> No.19186108
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You are a PATHETIC chinese CHINK!

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>he thinks it's bait.
OPEC didn't cut nearly enough
Storage is reaching cap
US Gov in full damage control
Tankers are making tons of cash
Check it >>19181444
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPRRQcWt2RI

>> No.19186136

Already expected that you didn't understand the post

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Hey fren, sit back, grab a refreshing beverage, and watch us "big boys" kick some ass!!!!!!!!!!!

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You still mad that I fucked your mom? You should probably check on her.

>> No.19186153

>bin sadman

>> No.19186154

Why is there a whole general for this? Tanker stocks peaked in March, you guys missed the boat(tanker).

>> No.19186173

your little brain didn't follow the convo at all. Try looking less stupid.

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>> No.19186180

>If you expected the price to fluctuate down why didn't you just wait?
I waited till earnings!
Those were good earning! Good guidance too besides what you muppets tout.

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Your birth:

>> No.19186215

>peaked at their all time low
>now that they're higher than in march that means march was the peak
Are those shills broken? Where's the repairman?

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>tfw we can't start ripping out the gore so these guys demand a raise

>> No.19186260

you save pictures of dogs vomiting often?

>> No.19186261

>your little brain didn't follow the convo at all. Try looking less stupid.

That's you

I'm giving you another chance: try to read the original post >>19181241 and my response to it >>19185858

Read it carefully! Maybe you'll come up with a worthwhile response this time

>> No.19186289

I'm not going to help you study for your job.

>> No.19186302

Alright give it to me straight.

What is the chance WTI drops below 27.18 tomorrow?

I'm nervous as fuck I have shorted a shit ton.

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literal 50/50. Again, see

>> No.19186343

My bad, the play was in April, when NAT was $10+, STNG was $25 and FRO was $15 or some shit. Either way it was practically months ago and now there is a whole general for cope. Thats funny.

>> No.19186344

see what.

>> No.19186346

fugg fat fingers see >>19186112
the US gov is potentially doing this to keep prices high to keep more of us oil producers open. It's really a coin toss.

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This was the tweet

>> No.19186423

Because they are currently extremely profitable. It's also a good start point for the future maritime stocks general. Praise Poseidon.

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Where u at NIGGA? Wur u at NIGGA?

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>> No.19186516

My Tankers are flying high!

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>Because they are currently extremely profitable.

>> No.19186567

lel, china going down, into the ground, with brother brown, where there aint no sound, except for clowns!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.19186569

Not sure if retarded or just pretending.jpg
Nevertheless, I hope this free resource will help you my friend:

>> No.19186594

These tankers could have rates of 0 for the rest of the year and still have a decent profit by the end of the year

>> No.19186595

Show me your extreme profits, tanker tard

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>> No.19186608

I got assfucked by the chinks today, bought some BIDU shorts.

>> No.19186617

and what if the 10 years after that are low too?

>> No.19186627

They're on www.google.com
Google. For all your research needs. Try it today, it's free!

>> No.19186662

Fucking why? Demand for oil isn't going away so when it picks back up the tankers are also in a good position. Only way that would happen is a great depression.

>> No.19186664

Don't think your portfolio's on google, tankercuck

even though it would certainly be a good laff for millions to see

>> No.19186683

>shifting the goalposts
Oh no no no no no shill, that's not how you win people over!

>> No.19186684

Why did TNP moon today?

>> No.19186689

>random literal who deleted tweet
gonna need more than that

>> No.19186717

>10 years
>rate of 0
Retard argument

>> No.19186748

>low is zero
he didn’t say that smoothbrain

>> No.19186751

Demand for oil is going away because you can't fucking make a vaccine for corona-viruses, least of all SARS, which translates into RIP boomer-tourism and RIP globalism

>> No.19186865

Even if it sticks around it's a minor flu, next outbreaks should be less bad as people buildup a resistance to it, at least somewhat. The shutdown was an over reaction anyways.

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>> No.19186921

>Demand for oil is not going away
>implying airlines are gonna log as many miles
>implying loads of factories are not gonna close
>implying most offices are not gonna make their workers stay at home

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>> No.19186961

Wow I didn't know we had a doctor and a scientist in our thread! Could you link us to one of peer-reviewed studies? Oh wait, maybe you're a fucking wagie moron who doesn't know shit about viruses or disease?

Come back when you're not retarded.

>> No.19186986

If your not BLACK you might as well be!

>> No.19187009

Yeah so what? Lots of new ones will open too and the scare in regards to airlines isn't gonna last 10 years, maybe 2 at most. Relatively minor considering the shit price they're trading at right now.
>implying most offices are not gonna make their workers stay at home
Lol, both the employees and employers fucking hate it, that's going away by the end of the year unless muh second wave is legit.

>> No.19187013

>it's a minor flu
>people buildup a resistance to it

>> No.19187035

Oh because you're a fucking doctor? Lol yeah sure faggot.

>> No.19187059

Yeah death rate is 5.. errr 3%, no wait 1%, well maybe it should be revised to .5%
lol, ok retard

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No retard, but I'm not going to act like I understand this virus. At least I have the decency not to LARP about being a scientist or doctor.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about, why are you trying to justify your dumb ass opinion?

>> No.19187133

Misread as "are that low" rather than "that are low". Doesn't change the fact they are making a shit ton this year. Never argued a 10 year investment

>> No.19187138

By year 1 of rates being that low over 50% of VLCC tonnage would be scrapped causing a supply-side crisis jacking up rates. In 2021 about 25% will be scrapped anyway due to regulation and old age, with or without your hypothetical rates. More coming in 2022.

Order books are currently already completely empty due to IMO2020 and IMO 2030; shipyards are already bankrupted and tanker creditors are all gone. The tanker market is complicated but has a built in equilibrium that began tipping in late 2019.

Long EURN, long STNG

>> No.19187190

>At least I have the decency not to LARP about being a scientist or doctor.
I'm just basing myself on what they're saying themselves, you dumbass. Or I guess the trend line of what they've been saying.
And it's not like you've been particularly critical of the other bullshit claims.

>> No.19187203


Our boys J and Calvin having a laugh.

You guys need to chill the fuck out, stop acting like gamblers and start acting more like investors.

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Anyone know when open interest for oil contracts refreshes? I thought it was supposed to appear after commodities reopen.

>> No.19187342

>world in lockdown
>people sit inside and do nothing but drink hot drinks and stuffing their faces with vitamins
>does not understand how bullish this is for immune systems and how bearish this is not only for catching diseases, but how bearish it is for the severity of the few diseases that are caught

I say again; retard

>> No.19187379

New thread: