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Many people in my area do not wear one because they say it is a violation of their rights. I think they are foolish and selfish for this.

>> No.19152969

I think you are a cuck. It is literally just the flu.

>> No.19152975

Yes
No
T. Eastern pa

>> No.19152998

>>19152949
Masks are for NPCs who are fearful of the flu.

>> No.19153108

>>19152949
You have to believe that corona literally doesn't exist to not wear one. It's basically the only free lunch we've got so far as reducing transmission rates goes.

Even if it's 'just the flu', fuck you, I don't want to catch the flu either. I don't like getting sick, period. I wear an N95 respirator when I'm out and about and frankly I may never stop now because it lets me cover my ugly mug in public, I don't have to worry about shaving my stubble to be presentable (I look like a serial rapist if I go three days without shaving normally), I don't have to fucking smile or say hello to random passersby. Honestly it's kind of heavenly.

Whether you're pro-lockdowns or pro-reopenings, masks are just a no-brainer. Unless, again, you think corona literally doesn't exist or doesn't have the r0 and asymptomatic transmission rates that experts are saying they do.

in b4 >(((experts)))

>> No.19153128

>>19152949
It's a really stupid problem. The people that choose not to wear a mask because muh freedoms, are putting other people at risk. Does it only matter if YOUR rights are violated, but not mine? These people are putting my wellbeing and rights at risk, because of some idological autism. Is it really so difficult to not play politics and just buy a fucking mask for a few bucks, better be safe than sorry, regardless of whether you believe it's real or not. Not to mention gives you an excuse to conceal your face in public.

It's an interesting dynamic where right leaning people constantly undermine themselves to own the lib boogeyman. Politics gives people fucking brain worms.

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>>19152949
no

>> No.19153139

>>19152998
cringe

>> No.19153155

>>19153128
it's just a flu, bro

>> No.19153156

>>19152949
Getting to wear a face covering in everyday life has been a blessing I thought I'd never get

>> No.19153166

>>19152998
An ambulance came for my neighbour about a week ago. He was in his 40's. Found out today he passed away. #Onlyaflu

>> No.19153172

UK. My area maybe 1 in 10 wear a mask. I don't because I'm not a pussy or fat.

>> No.19153178

>>19152949
2/10 bait

>> No.19153182

I wear just to hide my ugly beard.

>> No.19153197

>>19153108
>masks are necessary because it allows me to hide the fact I'm hideous.
Fuck off you fat fuck, wear a fucking bag and fuck yourself

>> No.19153232
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>>19153155
>I love catching the flu, bro
>I refuse to wear a 50c accessory that can reduce my rate of catching the flu by 95%, bro
>REAL HIGH T MEN LOVE GETTING SICK

>> No.19153237

>>19153166

Was he an overweight smoker?

>> No.19153256

I would estimate around 40% wear masks where I live. Personally I do not wear a mask, simply because I have no clue where to buy an effective mask in the UK, but I have a perfect BMI and health overall, so I am not too worried. I only go out to buy food anyway.

>> No.19153258

Some retards actually drive around in their car alone wearing a fucking mask. Makes it easier to spot the low iq people I suppose.

>> No.19153263

>>19153155
So what if it is? I don't wanna catch that shit. Stop infringing on my freedoms, you dirty fucking mouth breather. You probably don't wash your hands either because muhh flu and muh rights.

>> No.19153272

>>19153232
You destroyed your argument the second you admitted the main purpose you wear a mask is because you look like a goblino. Now stfu about "muh flu"

>> No.19153276

>>19152949
Yes and yes.
t. German

>> No.19153286

>>19153263
So you think everyone should wear a mask for the rest of time?

>> No.19153291

there is no virus , there is no flu, wtf you talking bout? is all made up WTFU

>> No.19153292

>>19153263
>stop infringing on my freedoms
he's not. You are free to keep being a retard

>> No.19153301

>>19152949
Only around old people who are also wearing masks. Just to be respectful to old people. Otherwise, no mask.

>> No.19153303

>>19153237
no.. He wasn't overweight. Not sure if he smoked, but I don't think he did

>> No.19153305

>>19153258
I think you are misunderstanding. Masks are made ineffective when people put their grubby hands on their face. You should put on your mask at home, and then do not take it off until you have washed your hands. If you take it off in your car after you have been out in public, you could transfer the virus from your hands to your face by doing so.

>> No.19153315

>>19153286
Would be nice during flu season. I mean it's literally a net benefit to everyone, with no downsides.

>> No.19153343

>>19152949
Lol yes who tf doesn't

>> No.19153348

>>19153315
I will not wear a mask like a horse wearing blinders. Stop being a pussy, or better yet lock yourself inside and don't come out.

>> No.19153358

>>19153315

>no downsides
It's literally a mask that covers half your face, fuck off retard.

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>>19152949
Face masks lower the amount of oxygen you get in, lowering your immune strength. They also keep all the gross stuff you'd normally exhale right next to your mouth. They're literally one of the dumbest things you could do in times of 'rona. So of course they're a government initiative.
Great song on facemask idiocy:
I have a scarf in my car in case I need to enter a store that really asks I wear it (muh private property, ok...) and that's it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DDXG-dHugc&fbclid=IwAR1dQ257QGwhKoh8Vxj5UssmI2MC3Nc-eEOKP4z9nYjbTubpwq_s2_6gPig

>> No.19153367

>>19152949
I wear a reusable respirator, gloves and a 9MM in case someone doesn't like it.
No,people don't wear shit where I live, and its everywhere

>> No.19153369

>>19153128
XRP holder

>> No.19153371

>>19152949
I've not left my house in 6 weeks

>> No.19153385

>>19153197
LOL, imagine reading my whole post and singling in on that one facet. Spotted the underage.

>> No.19153425

It doesn't matter, in the end, you will have to wear a mask.

Gyms- Have to wear a mask
Shopping outlets- Have to wear a mask
Work- Have to wear a mask.

Literally had to order 15 reusable masks in the last 2 weeks.

Get used to wearing masks, your beliefs be damned.

>> No.19153451

>>19153385
>wearing something that covers my face helps me feel like a human therefore everyone should wear masks forever
sorry hun, literally have sex

>> No.19153453

>>19153258
>doesn't understand mask handling protocol
>calls people who understand it retards

Top-tier dunning-kruger, m80

>> No.19153454

>>19152975
montco here... good amount of people wear masks here. i got covid so i'm on a 2 week paid vacation with no symptoms. feels pretty based senpai

>> No.19153471

>>19153425
>exercising
>with a mask on
This is how I know you are a fat fuck

>> No.19153490

A mask makes you constantly rebreathe your own CO2. Unhealthy, especially in the long term.

>> No.19153491

Wearing a mask is low-IQ

you know what serves JUST as well as wearing a mask? not coughing in public or coughing into your shirt if you must

>> No.19153508

>>19152969
fpbp

only elderly or compromised people should be wearing them or if you are sick

>> No.19153562

>>19153348
>like a horse wearing blinders
it doesn't impair anything, if anything it gives your lungs a break by filtering out environmental particulates.

>>19153358
that's an upside, retard.

>>19153366
>Face masks lower the amount of oxygen you get in
You may take slightly shallower breaths since the effort of inhaling is increased, but you can consciously override this. It's not like they filter out oxygen.

>They also keep all the gross stuff you'd normally exhale right next to your mouth.
If you're exhaling it then you're already immune to it. Brush your fucking teeth before you put one on and wash your fucking face after you take it off. Easytime.

>that video
Again, making fun of people wearing masks in cars shows your misunderstandling of how masks protect people. Once it's on, it has to stay on until you're home and can demask properly.

>> No.19153575

>>19153292
Not if faggots like you keep endangering mine and my family's wellbeing because of your retardation. Knowing the risks you chose to disregard safetety protocols and infected other people. If those people get seriously ill or die because of YOU, these people can no longer enjoy their fucking freedoms now, can they?

I guess you'll be okay with me fucking your plump buttcheeks if I had aids? Good to know.

>>19153315
Not an argument, unless you're a fat fucking mouth breather who is gasping for air walking on flat ground.

>>19153358
What's the downside of that? You are literally given a pass to conceal your identity in public.

>> No.19153640

>>19153491
>you know what works just as well as wearing filter that scrubs 95% of viral particulates from the air you're inhaling?
>not wearing a filter at all!

That is like arguing not wearing a condom works just as well as wearing a condom. Please immediately seek the nearest euthanasia clinic to begin the offboarding process.

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wear a mask?!?! but muh freedom

>> No.19153649

>>19153575
They sure can, freedom comes with risks though. Don't like it? Tell your fucking family to lock themselves the fuck up. Its literally just a flu bro

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>>19153128
If masks work why are you freaking out so much about my not having one, when yours will OBVIOUSLY protect you.

Same reason trannies and nogunz flip shit about how everyone HAS to get their vaccines so Kaideyn, my king, doesn't get sick.

Good goy logic has some glaring, fundamental flaws...and you're a room temp iq mutt if you follow their orders.

>> No.19153735

Guys, show of hands. What if the CDC tomorrow reversed course again and recommended nobody wear masks except health professionals? How many of you freedomfags would immediately start wearing masks literally 24/7, at work, at home, in bed, in the shower, just to cuck the government?

>> No.19153747

/biz/ are a bunch of nu/pol/ contrarian faggots. To answer your question, no they generally don’t. My area is purely white hicks and niggers but every now and then I’ll see someone with a triple digit IQ wearing a mask

>> No.19153748

>>19153735
retard logic

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>>19152949
A mask won't protect you against Starlink and 5G. Like a death ray from the sky, they will penetrate you and kill you.

>> No.19153853

>>19153735
I'd wear them if they legally said I couldn't do it and would fine me for wearing one. But if it's just a recommendation I wouldn't care.

>> No.19153899

>>19152949
No
No

t. Swede
The Public Health Agency advices against using them here.

>> No.19153963

>>19153899
Do they tell you why you're not supposed to wear a mask? Honest question, seems crazy to me during a global pandemic that infects the lungs and is spread through talking

>> No.19154025

>>19153166
lmao rekt, based boomer remover

>> No.19154153

>>19153702
Because their efficacy comes mostly from preventing germs from sick people from entering the atmosphere, not from keeping them from entering your mouth/body (which surgical masks are not really useful for at all and N95s are still not as useful for). The idea is you may not know you are sick due to the lengthy incubation period, and walking around with your low IQ mouth breathing and spit talking and coughing into open air may get someone else sick, and kill them, even if you don’t die.

But hey, as proven by your post, the people who don’t wear masks are too low intelligence to understand this and instead spend their time trying to defend their moronic tendencies.

What’s most amusing to me is that I have known 2 people just like you who then completely flipped stance once someone close to them died of COVID-19, so it’s only a matter of time for you before you’re on the other side of the fence and the glorious thing about that is it’ll be your own doing, you disease spreading ingrate.

>> No.19154178

In Melbourne Australia I am about the only person who wears one in my locale.

>> No.19154182

>>19152949
i wear a mask and mostly stay at home sure anything to reduce the chance of spreading this shit until there is a vaccine which means it becomes controllable. then gloves off.

>> No.19154205

>>19152998
masks don't protect you from shit
they decrease your filthy germs from spreading

>> No.19154234

>>19152949
1500 people died in my state out of 12 million. It’s not even close to a pandemic

>> No.19154254

>>19154182
>he fell for the vaccine meme
Enjoy your microchip

>> No.19154263

>>19153963
They claim there are no scientific proof that disposable face masks protect against airborne viruses and that they even might increase the spread because of incorrect use and touching the masks can transfer the virus to your hands.

Don't know if that's the real reason though or if it's just something they tell us to not hoard face masks that they primarily need for health care or something.

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People wonder why Asian countries are doing better when they ALL wear the fuck out of masks. Even pre-corona.

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>>19154182
>vaccine

>> No.19154301

>>19154263
Do you cover your mouth when you sneeze? That is why masks work.

>> No.19154310

masks make you breath back in your own bacteria making you have an even lower immune system. Fresh air improves your immune system

>> No.19154331

>>19154301
>sneezing and breathing are the same thing

>> No.19154339

>>19154254
i'm not getting vaccinated but i'm not gonna endanger everyone else being irresponsible either. if it's controllable i no longer care. we will know more by september.

>> No.19154383

>>19154339
also staying home is kinda fun, i can catch up to a lot of things i wanted to do. for example baking bread. last batch was almost perfect. next time it will be.

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>>19154153

>Because their efficacy comes mostly from preventing germs from sick people from entering the atmosphere, not from keeping them from entering your mouth/bod

>so it’s only a matter of time for you before you’re on the other side of the fence and the glorious thing about that is it’ll be your own doing

>your own doing

So it's my own doing if I get infected through the mask I'm supposed to wear that doesn't really protect you from infecting yourself but it's fine if that happens and someone close to me dies because I DID have the mask on my face at all times when it happened, as opposed to the guy that never wore one.

Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

>> No.19154410

EVERY SINGLE MASK WEARER IS A KEK
FUCK YOU
DIE

>> No.19154416

>>19153108
Their science is coming from the people who made reefer madness propaganda for 70 years

>> No.19154429

>>19154310
Its fun to make up scientific facts and pretend they are real
I know I've done it before too

>> No.19154437

>>19154310
>>bacteria

We are talking about a virus. COVID spreads through droplets in your breath.

>> No.19154452

>>19154437
>believing pseudoscience on tv
you should just live in a bubble suit until Gates is ready to tag you and bag you like the cattle you are

>> No.19154456

>>19154409
>infecting yourself
not how it works. are you people lobotomized or something?

>> No.19154463

>>19154234
The average age of death from corona is in the 70s

>> No.19154489

>>19154463
What is the average age for permanent lung, heart or kidney damage?

>> No.19154498

>>19154489
Read this >>19154416

>> No.19154502

>>19154383
Let me guess, you are on unemployment.

>> No.19154522

Lmao covid19 is the biggest hoax pulled by the elite just so they can chip your ass and control you like the puppet you are

>> No.19154527

>>19154498
so ignore all modern science because 50 years ago a video called refer madness was made?

>> No.19154534
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Hmmmmm

>> No.19154542

>>19154527
>reefer madness
wtf are you on about?

>> No.19154544

>>19154527
Modern science thinks there is 1000s of genders and is giving children hrt

>> No.19154550

>>19154502
no i just work from home. i have to say it's awesome. altho too many conferences can be tiring. a balance must be struck.

>> No.19154565

>>19154542
they're using a health scare as propaganda to gain to control over the population

>> No.19154568

>>19153108
This guy gets it. And it isn't just fugly bastards that need this. I'm a happy engaging person who makes conversation in the street. My mask saves me from myself.

>> No.19154584

>>19154527
marijuana is still federally illegal
Were not getting any rights back they take

>> No.19154602

>>19154544
>Modern science thinks there is 1000s of genders and is giving children hrt

Good point actually

>> No.19154610

>>19154550
one time i was making spaghetti bolognese while having a phone all with a co-worker about our project. it worked wonderfully well. would probably be even better with a wireless headset.

>> No.19154631

>>19154550
We dont need to destroy the future of our descendants so you can stay at home baking bread. For fucks sake, drop your coomsoomerist mindset for a second and think about the future and what this virus is doing to the freedoms of future generations. You are setting them up to become branded cattle, I hope you are ready to answer to them

>> No.19154649

>>19154631
He's just a 30 year old boomer

>> No.19154663

>>19152998
Says a lot...I wear one out of courtesy.

>> No.19154664

>>19154234
>It's not even close to a pandemic
Yes, because of an unprecedented level of personal and governmental containment measures.

Business as usual gives you an R0 of 3 or higher with 50% asymptomatic or presymptomatic transmission. Within a few months your state would be looking at over 50k deaths.

Most geezers, sure, but from the Theodore Roosevelt you'd still have 1 in 1000 fatality for young, fit people.

>> No.19154701

>>19153108
I'd rather die than live the rest of my life covering my face like a gay retard while regarding all strangers as potential disease vectors.

>>19153128
The people that willingly trade other people's freedoms for increased safety measures are the scourge of society. You'll greedily take away the rights of others under fear mongering pretext, while never considering the long lasting consequences of such knee-jerk responses.

>> No.19154700

>>19154663
That's bad logic
>I got nothing to hide so warrantless searches to enslave my community its is OK

This is an attack on freedom

>> No.19154708

>>19154631
the future is fine. we gonna have a recession now no matter what you do. mainly because it was coming anyways.

just enjoy the ride! this will all be over soon once either 60% of the population becomes immunized naturally or a vaccine gets delivered to the most susceptible part of the population (old fat and sick) we will all be free.

i don't get why people are so impatient. good science needs time. once we know more we can maybe make some better progress.

>> No.19154728

>>19154456

No, you are just too much of a brainlet to figure out where I was going with it so here I'll put it plainly so even you can understand:

VIRUS BAD
ME STAY INSIDE TO BE SAFE
LET THE STUPID KRUGS THAT GO OUTSIDE KILL EACHOTHER
GRUG COME OUT WINNER

So do let us low-iq retards to kill ourselves by going outside while you sit comfy at safe at home while the storm passes.

>inb4 I can't stay inside cause essential job

So you legitimately think then that everyone wearing masks would stop the virus dead in its tracks and there is absolutely no way it can continue spreading... interesting hypothesis, I wonder why are we in lockdown if it's that fucking easy.

>NOOOOOO not everyone will follow the rules and wear one if there was no quarantine
>NOOOOOOOO THAT'S NOT HOW VIRUS SPREADING WORKS

So you're saying that no matter what I do there's always going to be this one factor that will make the virus spread anyway.

Great story schlomo, would read again.

>> No.19154729

>>19152969
this. only retarded NPC's who believe all the bullshit propaganda from the media kikes are wearing masks.

>> No.19154743

>>19152949
I have to wear one to go into my gym, but it's starting to piss me off. Me and everyone else basically just pull them down when we're working out for the most part. It's honestly more unsanitary because I'm constantly touchin git and I just reuse the same one over and over because it's just for appearance. Forcing a healthy person to wear one is fucking stupid. Fuck you.

>> No.19154761

>>19154631
Let's see, the zero mask, zero vaccine, zero lockdown approach you want means it becomes endemic, has enough cases to mutate, and becomes a continuous killer every year. You never reach herd immunity just like we never reach herd immunity with the dozens of other cold and flu strains.

So governments get a permanent emergency just like they have with terrorism.

Whereas if we have few enough cases that a vaccine works against all circulating strains and the combined mask+vaccine fraction stamps out SARS-2 county by county, state by state, and country by country, we go back to the happy go lucky days of 2019.

It's simple. Don't be retarded, anon.

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Our government is a shitshow 25 trillion in debt with a lot of people expecting gibs

>> No.19154767

>>19154701
No one is forcing anything. Muh freedumbs.

>> No.19154768

>>19154728
>So you legitimately think then that everyone wearing masks would stop the virus dead in its tracks
no that's not how they work. they and social distancing decrease the chance of transmission so that r0 decreases from fuck everything game over pandemic level to just a flu level.

>> No.19154777

>>19154701
I don't like wearing masks either. But if you NEED toliet paper NOW and Walmart requires you to wear a mask...Just accept that you have to wear it when going inside places.

>> No.19154780

>>19153471
idk about his gyms, but our governor in Arkansas came up with his own retarded rules for gyms and they include wearing a mask unless you're doing cardio. >>19154743
me

>> No.19154801

>>19154761
it's not an epidemic anywhere in the world except in the west where the had shit banking practices

https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/reservereq.htm
As announced on March 15, 2020, the Board reduced reserve requirement ratios to zero percent effective March 26, 2020. This action eliminated reserve requirements for all depository institutions.

This is all a economic problem banks are insolvent

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>>19154801
>it's not an epidemic anywhere in the world except in the west

>> No.19154831

>>19154728
Posts like this actually make me depressed. The intellect of the average human is abysmal and there really is no hope for us. Fucking dark. What’s scariest is you are trying so hard and still just can’t fit the pieces together.

>> No.19154837

>>19154767
Good. Now wear your gay little mask and leave the rest of us alone.

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>>19154777
Just take your shoes off and get an xray
Jam something up your nose every morning before work

>> No.19154845

>>19154544
>modern science thinks there are 1000s of genders
Why are you making shit up? Do you have links to these studies? Or are you just quoting your favorite double digit iq e-celebs?

Why do you suddenly care about social sciences anyway? Do you only care about them when you can use them to discredit any other science you disagree with? So because you don't like trannies we can now disregard virology and epidemiology? What is your alternative source of information? Do we all just make up our own science now? Whatever I say is now fact?

I want off this fucking planet and this post-truth timeline. I hope automation will lead to the genocide of the working class.

>> No.19154858

>>19154728
Good point. If it’s that easy to stop it then let’s just end the lockdowns and all wear masks. Except you know that’s bullshit. Masks just make you FEEL safe

>> No.19154869

>>19154845
Look at the money involved
There's incentive to lie
Like 70k per death they juiced the numbers

Statistics can be presented in anyway you please when the population is math illiterate
They just scream 100k without any reference to anything
The average age of death is in the 70s

>> No.19154877

>>19152949
Only literal npcs actually believe in this hoax fake virus.

>> No.19154897

>>19154761
Jesus christ, what fucking color is the sky in your world?

>> No.19154906

>>19154877
/cvg/ was on it in January. Sorry your qtarded ass got misprogrammed by Trump in March.

>> No.19154918

>>19154858
you need to be a special kind of retard to think masks protect you and make you feel safe.
the virus gets in through your eyes just as easily as your mouth or lung. even people weaning googles face shields and ffp-3 masks rubber gloves and disposable clothing got infected.

no maks mainly reduce the infection rate. and do offer some protection to medical professionals combined with other measures.

you need a hazmat suit or at least a fully enclosed filtered facemask for real protection.

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>>19154768

Funny how Japan, the country with the most flights out of Wuhan isn't collapsing in nuclear fire because of this virus that would trigger a game over pandemic level if not isolated in time, the virus that supposedly has a 2 week incubation period with no symptoms, in the country with the biggest population density per sq ft in the entire world.

>b-b-b-b-but they have a mask wearing culture and tend to be cleaner than westerners

So that's fine and enough to keep the virus at bay even if they are so packed during rush hours that they legitimately have station workers push them by force into trains so they can all fit.

>>19154831

>The intellect of the average human is abysmal and there really is no hope for us. Fucking dark.

>> No.19154925

>>19154897
Damn, solid counterargument dude. You thought through your stuff.

>> No.19154942

>>19154922
have you see how asians go everywhere when there is just a bit of flu around? they actually wear their fucking masks and gloves.

>> No.19154949

>>19154869
You can say that about literally anything. What is the alterantive? You can't even educate yourself because you can't trust the information wasn't manipulated. So what do you do? Just sit in a cave and make shit up hoping for the best?

>> No.19154959

>>19154918
Yeah and five point harnesses are more effective than regular seatbelts. You think that means only Formula 1 drivers have "real protection"? Or that your average person is better off with no seatbelt?

Think, dude. Jesus.

>> No.19154975

>>19154544
This is a savagely good point.

>>19154845
You provided nothing and literally answered something with a million questions. Kys

>> No.19154990

>>19154949
You stop believing the people 25 trillion in debt with incentive to seize control
You have a open level headed discussion but these people are all vying for control

>> No.19155006

I knew /biz/ was pretty dumb, but the delusion in this thread is really something next level that I haven't seen before.

>> No.19155010

>>19154942

But every asian in the country just KNEW there was this deadly virus with a symptomless 2 week incubation period going around so they all put their masks on preventively in unison, totally ignoring the fact that you just said above that even wearing masks isn't enough and that you need social distancing on top of it.

Yeah I think I'm starting to get it Mordecai, please continue.

>> No.19155015

>>19154922
okay why do you think germans are way better off than mutts? let's forget about asians for a sec.
why do you think they are not in deep shit like you are?
it's because they are more intelligent and disciplined and driven by logic and not conspiracy theories.

that's all it takes just play it safe use your fucking brain and wait until we know more for actual fact.

>> No.19155018

>>19154631
>Stop being a quarantine consoomer!
>We need to reopen the economy so people can consoom things again!

Cognitive dissonance much?

>> No.19155025

>>19154877
based

>> No.19155044

>>19155015
None if the hospitals experienced any occupancy problems
I spoke to 2 doctors one in a covid wing and one in a small med clinic
Both say this is way overblown
The doctor on the covid wing said they had 5% what they expected and he's on a vacation now

>> No.19155047

>>19154959
i never said don't wear masks i said they won't protect you from shit. 99% of the people that wear masks wear them wrong anyhow. don't adjust it, don't do a smell test, don't wear eye protection.

it's basically larping.

>> No.19155068

>>19155010
hahah dude there was like 5 other infectious disease also going on at the time. you think it's just covid and everything else stopped spreading?

brainlet.

>> No.19155079

>>19154925
>solid counterargument dude
>(you)
.5% death rate at best. Then comes the incompetence of health and public officials.
>its a nothingburger, come to chinatown
>its a nothingburger, restricted travel from china is xenophobia
>you dont need to wear masks
>oh wait, you do bit only n95
>oh wait, just wear panties on your face that's good enough
>now we need a lockdown
>even though states like utah never did and they are doing just fine
>hospitals get 30k medicare payments for covid 19 deaths as opposed to 13k for normal circumstances
>states with heavy lockdowns push the hardest for federal bailouts due to muh flu
I don't blame you for being unable to formulate logical thoughts and connections, I blame the failure of our educational institutions

>> No.19155098

>>19155079
Oh yeah the timeline should be enough to get off their ride

Our social contract with them is simply pay tax and they maintain freedom for foreign influence
Not give us 1,200 and control our lives

>> No.19155111

>>19155044
>Both say this is way overblown
you didn't talk to italian doctors then. just fucking stop making excuses for irresponsible behavior. it could be that is overblown but nobody know this for a fact. anyone that says so is lying. we simply do not know shit yet. it takes many months to understand the exact nature of a disease.

the mortality can only be determined from excess mortality statistics months after the fact.

>> No.19155119

>>19155098
>for
from* bad actors anyone foreign and domestic

>> No.19155126
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>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A NATURAL DISASTER DURING AN ELECTION YEAR WHEN DONALDINO TRUMPERINO NEEDS TO GET REELECTED, WE HAVE TO PRETEND THERE IS NO VIRUS!!!!!!!

>> No.19155130

yes because they made it a law in my city

>> No.19155133

>>19154700
how the fuck do you jump from wearing masks to warrantless search and seizure? Also, you paranoid fucks worrying about being microchipped are already being surveiled, tracked, quantified and threat assessed literally every day via digital surveillance and you don't even give a shit. I guarantee the NSA knows 100x more about you from your browsing habits and GPS pings than a microchip ever would. Unless you don't own a phone and do all your internet browsing from randomly selected internet cafes via tor, you've already been completely neutralized by the system without even knowing it.

>> No.19155139

>>19155018
>he thinks I was talking about the economy solely and not the ever increasing powergrab by the government and alphabet orgs

>> No.19155146

>>19155111
you little guys can collect data but you cannot control lives

>> No.19155163

>>19155133
Do you want this to continue?
Do you have a spine?

>> No.19155173

>>19155015
Why Germany in particular? Europe in general is doing better. Literally the entire world is doing better than the US.

>> No.19155191

>>19154701
This strong reaction against masks is brainlet tier retarded. How the hell can you manage to even work a computer let alone post here if you are so God damned stupid?

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>>19155068

>keeps ignoring the fact they were and still are packed like rats and the concept of social distancing is non existent

Yeah figured as much.

>> No.19155210

>>19155047
It's not 99%, which is what matters. Pulling random numbers out of the air, 80% of people wearing something that blocks 80% of particles and reduces the range of their exhaled droplets will spread the virus far less and infect with lower initial viral loads.

>>19155079
Oh excellent, now you can spout out actual nonsense.

1. Libs being dumbshits in February doesn't change the reality on the ground in May or the nature of the virus.
2. The CDC being dumbshits in February doesn't change the reality on the ground in May or the nature of the virus.
3. Utah did well because any Mormon missionaries sent to China would be thrown in concentration camps.
4. Even with all the super secret nefarious COVID fraud, hospitals are still losing fucktons of money because of lockdowns and no elective procedures. HCA would suck your dick if you could restore pre-pandemic operations with 0 Kung Flu cases.
5. Blue states angling for bailouts don't change the reality on the ground in May or the nature of the virus.

>> No.19155216

>>19152949
Yeah i wear a mask.
Im not gonna pretend im some big dick who doesnt afraid of anything and compromise the health of my entire family for the sake of appealing to morons on the internet

>> No.19155232

>>19155146
oh for fucks sake...
>>19155173
italy and spain did the exact same irresponsible shit of not taking it seriously and suffered greatly.
germans have an especially low death rate for a country that tests a lot. most countries with low official covid death rate are simply not testing.

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Stay inside goy you might spread a foreign virus
Don't work goy ask the governmwnt for gibs

>> No.19155253

>>19155232
you upset you can't control lives?
Fuck you nigger

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>>19155210
>the nature of the virus
>.5% fatality

>> No.19155274

>>19154409
The mask is to stop one's self from spraying out poz loads unknowingly while asymptomatic.

The primary vector of transmission is from asymptomatic carriers.

Don't spray your poz loads in the air and less people get sick. Society rebuilds faster. What the fuck is so hard about this? This isn't fighting for your rights or preserving liberty, what you're doing is the equivalent of sneezing on people openly and pretending you're being persecuted when someone tells you to cover your fucking mouth.

>> No.19155277

>>19155232
What is the average age of death from covid?

>> No.19155304

>>19154869
money is literally involved in everything. Whatever magical source of populist truth telling that you think is immune from corruption via moneyed interests, you're mistaken. For any side of any issue, there are people with money on the line with a vested financial interest in getting you to believe what they have to say. No matter how grassroots, populist, or contrarian the particular side is or seems to be.

>> No.19155313

>>19155126
this is the real reason why rightcucks are absolutely seething over coronachan

>> No.19155317

>>19155199
dude, you are stupid as shit. but never mind.
masks only decrease the transmission rate. but almost no mask is perfectly filtering out exhaled aerosol. most masks worn by people only catch droplets.

social distancing is important.

>>19155210
> 80% of people wearing something that blocks 80% of particles and reduces the range of their exhaled droplets will spread the virus far less and infect with lower initial viral loads.

never said anything about that. no i said the masks only protect you if properly fitted. you can check with coffee smell test. you should feel no smell inside a sealed mask. and i seen no masks properly fitted so far in the past months but could be a few people are doing it right.

any mask catches droplets. even home made ones. everyone should wear makss. but nobody should feel safe wearing masks.

>> No.19155329

look up the real statistics
Average age and their underlying condition
Then divide that by the numbers they juiced for monetary incentive
Then subtract 25 trillion and you get how bullshit the governemnt is on COVID

>> No.19155331

>>19155267
It's 1%, dipshit. 0.1% for young healthy people, 0.2% for young, unhealthy people, 20% for the 80+ crowd. Look at Spain's population-wide serosurvey or NYC's stats or the Theodore Roosevelt sailors on Guam to establish the lower bound or any number of studies out there.

For comparison this is an order of magnitude or two worse than the flu.

>> No.19155335

>>19155277
isn't it like 70+? So like nearing the age of death from natural causes

>> No.19155339

I cover my mouth, not my nose in stores because my tyrannical government enforces it and normies are cucked
Im not afraid of the coof and the day of the pillow is needed to save the world
>elders would normally sacrifice themselves to save their children, boomers are different
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%84ttestupa

>> No.19155351

>>19155253
>you can't control lives?
i don't want to control your life i just called you an irresponsible idiot.

>> No.19155355

>>19155304
and they are proven liars so fuck them

>> No.19155358

>>19152949
Everyone is gonna get China flu at some point. May else go ahead and roll the dice. Sick and old people need extra precautions but it's honestly better to just get this shit over with sooner. The damage to the economy and deaths due to quarantine are going to far exceed what would have happened if we just did nothing.

>> No.19155369

>>19153108
>Unless, again, you think corona literally doesn't exist or doesn't have the r0 and asymptomatic transmission rates that experts are saying they do.
Except that catching it and suffering no symptoms, or catching an asymptomatic variant if it's mutated, are both good things.
That said, I wear one around common areas simply because it's mandated at my school.

>> No.19155373

>>19154975
>stop believing
>open level headed discussion
What discussion? You provide no alternatives to any claims. You just say "I don't believe you, because you have more power than me". You provide no data or research to prove them wrong. Who has to perform the research for you to believe it? Stefan Molymeme? What will it take for scientific research to meet your criteria? Why do people like you immediately accept the findings of some crackpot faggot like Didier Raoult, but not anyone else? Why do people like you immediately agree with data that disagrees with the consensus and not apply the same level of skepticism?

I fucking hate you completely dishonest, anti intellectual, smooth brained faggots with zero convictions.

>>19154975
>you just asked a million questions
Yes, because faggots like you never offer any alternatives to anything. You disagree with shit for no fucking reason. So what am I suppose to do? Agree with your disagreement? Do I just eat up your bullshit like a good goy, even if you have zero evidence to back up your claims?

>> No.19155378

>>19155335
exactly

>> No.19155381

>>19155329
You are so retarded it hurts man. The world is getting buttfucked and you're pretending it's not happening and it's a ploy by blue states for cash. This shit is going to be like 911 truthers all over again.

>> No.19155383

>>19155358
>but it's honestly better to just get this shit over with sooner.
thank god some infectologists actually did scientific models and analysis and we don't have to rely on your brainlet opinion.

>> No.19155396

>>19155317

>dude, you are stupid
>masks only decrease the transmission rate
>social distancing is important

So show me the devastating effect this virus had on the country with the biggest population per sq ft in the entire world, the country that also got it first after china in the period that nobody knew nCoV was a thing.

Ask me how I know you have a big echoing nose.

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>>19155331
>please take this SERIOUSLY
lel oh wow this notaflu sounds just like the flu

>> No.19155401

>>19155351
thats fine atleast I'm not a sheep being led to slaughter

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> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
> tfw just checked again and even india is doing better than virtually the entire western world. but especially burgers.
the absolute state of the west.

>> No.19155425

>>19155383
Just think of it as a late term abortion

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>>19155383
Just shut the fuck up

>> No.19155430

>>19153128
You dont have the right to be protected from a virus

>> No.19155441

>>19155146
>>19155163
take your schizo meds and take a nap, numbnuts.

>> No.19155449

>>19155396
dude you are stupid. social distancing is important. countries that dealt with sars and have very different attitude to privacy are in no way indicate it is safe to let go the basic preventative measures until we actually know more. also just because tokio is crowded as fuck the vast majority of japan is not. so an other bullshit.

>> No.19155459

>>19155441
Gaslighting when you lose an argument is desperation

>> No.19155469

>>19155428
fucking imbeciles...

>> No.19155478

>>19155430
You don't have a right to be protected from me shooting you on sight if you have no mask.

>> No.19155484

>>19155449
Our tax dollars basically built this virus and it escaped
They can't have virus labs and also use viruses to take freedom
It's a conflict of interest

>> No.19155498

>>19155449

>keeps dancing around the question without actually answering directly

Thanks for playing retard, this conversation is over. I don't have the quote at hand but it's exactly how Hitler described Jews when arguing, it's like a never-ending mobius strip of evasion and subversion, a total waste of time for anyone taking you seriously.

>> No.19155506

>>19155469
I'm not listening to a mentally ill tyranny you say is an expert
It's nonsense

>> No.19155509

>>19155478
>goes out in public
>demands not to be exposed to disease
Sorry, anon, but you're the schizo. Corona Karens always act so violent.

>> No.19155507

>>19155484
>Japan has reported just over 16,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 infections with just over 680 deaths, a situation that has overwhelmed the country’s healthcare system, hobbled its economy and forced it to postpone the Tokyo Summer Olympic Games for a year.
so basically japan got rekt, then they decided to go full retard and lifting the restrictions... and you think this is fine because... i don't know. you like going full retard. that must be it.

>> No.19155531

>>19155506
i don't even know who that is i have read from plenty other infectiologists that flattening the curve is essential.

>> No.19155537

>>19152969
>>19154729
A few months ago they were saying masks were useless

>> No.19155540

>>19155507
Yeah let me believe some hand picked numbers from the other side of the world when I don't know a single person affect by the actual virus

>> No.19155550

>>19155509
So if I don't want to be infected by faggots who choose to disregard safety protocols, I have to sacrfice all my freedoms so these faggots can have their freedom to be retarded? I have to forego literally going outside, because you are feeling oppressed by a piece of fucking cloth on your face? Kys.

>> No.19155551

>>19155498
>Thanks for playing retard, this conversation is over.
that was over long ago you are just spouting your retarded bullshit. read this tho >>19155507

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>>19152949
Op sucks cock as usual

>> No.19155568

>>19155551
We listened to China they lied and cost us trillions
Why are we still doing this?

>> No.19155573

>>19154777
If a company forces me to wear a mask and there are no alternative stores, then I'll wear a mask as an exception.

>>19155191
Easy, I click button and computer go brrrrr

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>>19155540
noone can be this stupid

>> No.19155606

>>19153562
>If you're exhaling it then you're already immune to it. Brush your fucking teeth before you put one on and wash your fucking face after you take it off. Easytime.
Virus gets dangerous through its concentration in your lung you fucking moron
You get immune for half a year when you are healthy again
Wearing a mask is literally bad for the health of a covid carrier
>the government wont admit this
>they lied and they lie again
>its plainly obvious tho, just search how covid gets dangerous ( concentraition of viruses in the lung )

>> No.19155613

>>19155568
>china lied
no shit sherlock
>so japan surely lies too
okay brainlet

>> No.19155623

>>19155540
>I don't know anyone personally, therefore it doesn't exist
I don't know anyone who died from slashing their wrists vertically, maybe you should do it. Blood letting is necessary for optimal health and flushes out all the viruses/bacteria.

>> No.19155624

>>19152949

It surprises me that there is not some legal avenue toward people that endanger other people.

They are basically walking biological weapons when walking around unprotected.

Why should people who DO protect by wearing a mask be liable by those who don't?

There should at least be some type of monetary compensation, even if it caused death, it should go to surviving family members.

>> No.19155632

Just remember that the same people that don't wear masks happily put on their seatbelt, they never run red lights even when no one is coming, they pay taxes they disagree with, they put bandaids on their boo boos, they wait in line, they talk quietly in public, etc etc

Its a fashion statement more so than any real display of principles.

>> No.19155634

>>19155589
You probably don't believe in God either
You're the type of person who is programmed by public school to hear something and repeat it without critical thought

>> No.19155657

>>19153899
>The Public Health Agency advices against using them here.
Pls source, based swedes if tru

>> No.19155661

>>19155634
but being raised in a church and being brainwashed by that is critical thought, both can be fucking cancer

>> No.19155677

>>19152949
No, if it isn't real i get to not look like a retards, if it is real I want as many boomers to die as possible so that housing can deflate. Fuck you and your guilt trip, the social contract died 20 years ago when you voted to replace the next generation with immigrants.

>> No.19155690

>>19155634
>unironically talks about god and critical thought in the same sentence
Oooooh my fucking sides are in orbit friend.

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>>19155624
>They are basically walking biological weapons
Read this
They lower the criminal penalty for spreading aids knowingly

Our government is just a bunch of weak tranny fags

>> No.19155704

>>19153108
He dumb ass if you have a beard that respirators isn't very air tight now is it?

>> No.19155706

>>19155661
>>19155690
The church! You have proven my point
I didn't find God until I was 27 you guys need to think critically

>> No.19155722

>>19155126
>>19155313
>nobody itt is able to refute this
get destroyed MIGAtards

>> No.19155735

>>19155634
if you can't tell the difference between science and religion then you got bigger problems than masks.

>> No.19155742

>>19155735
Science is the new religion if you haven't noticed

>> No.19155758

>>19155706
kys. I'm 29, I was raised in that shit and I bet I know more about the bible and god and shit than you ever will. What is your logic for believing in god mr philosopher?

>> No.19155760

>>19155550
Your own safety gear should protect your paranoid ass. If you don't trust your gear, what difference does it make if others wear it? Schizo.

>> No.19155769

>>19155126
>>19155722

You do know we're not all American right. Most of this board actually doesn't give a fuck about your shitty 2-piece dog and pony political system. For what its worth I'd vote for the orange man over the dementia patient if I was American though.

>> No.19155771

Either you don't wear a mask and the liberals screech at you or you wear one and the conservatives try to start a fight. Can't win.

>> No.19155783

>>19155742
go build me a jet engine out of religion lol

>> No.19155789

>>19155722
>civil rights being taken away
>none of the covidletts refute this
this kills the coofers