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>> No.19117211
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I lost 2.5k today

>> No.19117310
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>knows market is rigged
>doesn't BTD

>> No.19117358
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FAZ was stupid today, but I know all this FUD about Goldman buying Wells is gonna bust, and it's gonna drag the whole sector down

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Ok I had a lot of fun going long since March 23rd but next week is going to be red as fuck. I’m out with my meager 36k returns. I only have meme options that I’m holding until this shit is done with

>> No.19117442

correct thread here >>19117165

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>> No.19117792

lmao F in the chat for SAVA anons

>> No.19117920

Is she aware she is exposing herself in public?!

>> No.19118677

is this the fabled v-shaped recovery?

>> No.19118904
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...I gave up on it man, lost 2k, I know weak hand and all that but Jerome...this manlet is merciless

>> No.19119644
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Talk me out of buying


>> No.19119670

I will get a JPOW tattoo after TQQQ made me a billionaire

>> No.19119720

Jerome is like 6' something

>> No.19119816
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Ding dong the witch is dead

>> No.19119846

wich one of you faggots is still holding?

>> No.19119865
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Why is Coca-Cola doing so poorly?

KO is -28% in 3 months.

For comparison both Pepsi and DrPepper is not even -9% in 3 months.

>> No.19119890

The payout ratio is high, but it's otherwise solid.
You're better off investing in TCEHY and convincing people you're not stealing for the Chinese.

>> No.19119892

I don't know but I'm tempted to. I've heard that JP Morgan and AXP are good ones to hold, do you agree?

>> No.19119908

How do I short Germany?

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>> No.19119922
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>up 21.24% at close
>down 19.64% after

>> No.19119926
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Are we done now ???

>> No.19119936

Lmao imagine all the cunts who bought at $.30 today

>> No.19119940
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Why the fuck did dr pepper drop so much in july2018?

>> No.19119953

who else holding ATHX and ABT? i just bought some SRNE to round out my corona portfolio, anything else i should get?

>> No.19119967

im holding 35 shares because i like danger

>> No.19119968

What resolution?

>> No.19119987
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>tfw lost 1k today
>tfw made 10k this week

everything is gonna be okay folks

short wayfair

>> No.19119991
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>tfw holding SOXL
im going to be financially ruined come monday

>> No.19120001

Reminder fellow leafs that the Canadian market will be closed on Monday for Victoria day.

>> No.19120003

That was news yesterday or is the media really that slow?

>> No.19120011

pork the pochi

>> No.19120024

How so?
t. Bought a bunch of call options today (not on soxl) trying to time the bottom because algos, the fed, and the government manipulate it to go up.

>> No.19120032

because their largest sales are to restaraunts and bars which are closed

>> No.19120035

Divvy fags keep shilling it, but I'm still red on it

>> No.19120040
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Let's see who gets wrecked

>> No.19120056
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I'm holding REGN, LLY, PFE, JNJ.
Also MRK.

I think REGN is gonna do well with the monoclonal antibody approach, also a solid company.

I suspect it has to do with forex, but also restaurants and bars.

>> No.19120069
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merger with a company that makes coffee machines, if i remember correctly

i don't know about "good ones to hold" but i own both and they are down -10% for me. JPM at least have decent dividends at 4%, assuming they don't lower them

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I’m so fucking bored bros. No gf, can’t go out to bars, can’t go get milked at the local asian massage joint... idk what to do

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>sold everything today
pump it bog, I fucking dare you

>> No.19120087

So is the world economy going down the tubes or what? Seems like the stock market is just being propped up by the fed. How long until the life support stops working?

>> No.19120088

whats the thoughts on JNJ? i almost bought them a couple weeks ago when they announced the vaccine work but anons told me they were doing that for free so it wouldnt see any gains

>> No.19120089

The 3T. (Trillion) demofuck package it finished minutes ago but its still streaming

>> No.19120108

I hope the extra long weekend is why all my canadian stocks closed down today, because people were cashing out before markets close.

I'll go with that.

>> No.19120128
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optimistic on them having good results as well as the scale to bring it to market. not sure about the financial gain, but the reputation gain could do wonders for them, since past risks for JNJ have included things like the talc lawsuits.

JNJ is just a really solid company I think, with one of the best balance sheets. Core holding in my IRA.

>> No.19120147


you okay, JCP bros?

>> No.19120157

jerome is gonna announce freebux forever on 60 minutes this sunday

>> No.19120162
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probably true but that should be true for pepsi as well. maybe KO was simply considered more overvalued.

i'm -16% in KO, they should go back up again with time so i might buy more next week. 3.8% yield is pretty good and they haven't lowered dividends in 25 years or something (maybe 50 years even) so divvy fags are right in chilling it

>> No.19120173

>cramer says no to tankers

>> No.19120180

>not holding KTOV

>> No.19120181
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>ctrl f
>0 results


>> No.19120199


Even the fed is telling you to gtfo

>> No.19120236

>broker doesn't have a button to sell entire portfolio at market so I can AAAAAAAAAAA properly
>gotta click through all the menus instead

>> No.19120268

Bullish af

>> No.19120273

Pepsi has frito lay which prints fucking money. I don’t know how much it costs to make a potato chip but I know those fucks buy them for 12$ per hundred pounds and sell them for 3.99 a single pound

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>buying a non-div stock after it peeked

>> No.19120324

yeah or maybe coke is more prolific and has more to lose when restuarants shut down because they dominate the market and have a near monopoly on contracts with restaurants. i dont know man but i dont think they are going anywhere, the growth will come back, people love their sugar water

>> No.19120332

>jerome is gonna announce freebux forever on 60 minutes this sunday
does J have any more scheduled appearances?

>> No.19120363

So, lets talk SAVA! Huge blunder on my part, sorry about this folks. As it turns out the usual biomarkers have significant variability based on circadian rythm, lab methods and whatnot. Those interested see for example 10.1371/journal.pone.0100784, 10.1515/CCLM.2008.241. I thought measuring these is trivial, turns out it's not. I wonder how come the phase 2a results were so consistent. Coming up next are secondary endpoints, which means cognitive scores and blood biomarker levels. Neuroinflammation was definitely reduced at least, so - assuming the drug works- we might end up meeting the cognitive endpoints in a weird turn of events. But it's unlikely, again, due to the high variability. Cash is about 20-25 mil as i recall, that should be enough for quite a while without dilution. I suspect a phase 2b costs several millions at most. Maybe they will repeat the study, possibly with a better choice of endpoints, or higher number of patients. But that is for next year. The coming months should be good, blood test unveiling and data crunching. Now it's way oversold, (might even get to 1-1.5), as if the results would mean that pti-125 is out of the game. I don't think so, but we are two steps back. Apart from redo, investor trust should be salvaged somehow to get funds for an eventual phase 3, so there's a chance this is GALT all over again. Still, as good a value buy as it was last year, but the road ahead is now bumpy. Also, as a sidenote, I think it would be good for Parkinson's as well.

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Even the arch-pumpmaster of bullshit thinks crypto is a pyramid scheme

>> No.19120371

Whats the best broker if you live in the UK?

>> No.19120410
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oh yeah, forgot about that.

i think pepsi is a lot more available than coke in restaurants in asian countries.
KO definitely isn't going anywhere, just trying to figure out why they are going down more than other sugar water companies.
for dividends KO seems like a really good buy, better than T because Coca-Cola is more likely to stay around for another 100 years than AT&T.

>> No.19120433

if this crisis and recession ends without another massive crash i am becoming a permabull.
if the stock markets can survive 30% unemployment, shitloads of businesses closing down for months, giant businesses and key markets taking huge losses, extreme uncertainty and massive gov intervention, they'll survive anything. or they'll at least survive everything that's not as bad as this crisis.

>> No.19120443

Yea that is why Mountain Dew and Doritos are always marketed together

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>> No.19120469

the stock market is not 100% tied to the economy, there is going to be a reckoning one of these days even if it doesn't happen now.

>> No.19120483

did you sell at a loss?
is the company so shit that you couldn't hold the bag and hope for a slight recovery next week?

>> No.19120484

Which one is the top arch-master?

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People about to realize the economy can't be easily restarted, all these restaurant gonna reopen and then they will hit meat shortages and shieeet

It's over, sell the news

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You'd think that until NIRP hits. Oil is unpredictably fucked. CFTC issued another negative price warning on "commodities" potentially occurring and with a new contract coming up I suspect that oil is finna drop again. Either that or NG.

The real question is who is going to go bankrupt, who is going to consolidate, who is going to capitulate and so on, and that's a big gamble. That and you know the fucker has insiders.

>> No.19120605

Wagecuck here. Mid-tier cuts of beef coming down the supply chain now are expected to hit shelves at $22/lb, up from 10-12, by EOM. Biggest price hikes after memorial day weekend. The price shock is expected to last 3 months. Make of it what you will.

>> No.19120627

don't worry we have BYND and bug burgers to sell now goyim.

>> No.19120634

PNC is a great bank

>> No.19120635

And wa la! Meat will never be under $15 again

>> No.19120639

Yes and the restaurants are going to be opening which only strain it even more, do people really expect the economy to just recover? not only are people out of work, the price of food is skyrocketing just compounding the issue, eventually eating out will go back to being something you do on a special occasion like once a month at most and something only rich people do, the restaurant bubble is popping

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good think i have private hunting land so I can get 200lbs of venison in a weekend

>> No.19120689

BOTZ looks like a really good ETF especially when automation is about to skyrocket

>> No.19120701

That’s cute. As a farmer our FOB price sure hasn’t changed at all.

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>> No.19120750

And yet people still won’t buy Beyond

>> No.19120758

Automation requires investment. You can’t just force companies to automate because you think that is where the future is headed.

>> No.19120775
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Wassup bitches, guess who got that $1200 Trumpbux stimulus check today. Well spent too

>> No.19120798

If you qualified for that check then you dont make enough money to actually invest lol

>> No.19120801

i bought some
its pretty good

>> No.19120812

That makes sense, you have a big brain

>> No.19120814

34 yrs old. meh.

>> No.19120818

That SOXL gonna solve the problem. Stay salty

>> No.19120845

Interesting indeed. I did far out buy calls. If my strat works this can pay off bigly. Sadly I'm pussying out by only going in with 6k. If I go all in I could make some serious gains unless of course
>i die making my gains only useful for family
>covid is actually more of a threat than what it seems to be
>recession/depression that lasts a long time
>company I bought calls on goes bankrupt

Just hoping I timed it as good as possible. A few hard green days and I'll be up big or enough that I walk away with the principal. Heck had I gone all in on today's low and got it out at today's midpoint (or mid point to the high) I could've been up like 2k. Just hope I'm not being foolish as the market has acted irrationally which is what I seek to take advantage of.

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>that expense ratio

>> No.19120854

Should've bought TNA, way more upside and it'll recover faster.

>> No.19120866

I love small business too. Maybe next round

>> No.19120871

My guess, probably August/September. All the big boys in the financial sector are holding cash....that should worry you.

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>> No.19120875

How long has biotech/pharmaceuticals been in a bubble for? How much steam does it have left?

>> No.19120879

>t. Bagholding druggy

>> No.19120895
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I will make nothing burgers of it.

>> No.19120909
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Seriously the fed now decides to say "gtfo!" What happened, they finished bailing out their rich buddies and the remainder is to be dumped on retail investors.

>> No.19120933

I mean i dont mind. A modest living without ever having to work again is great. Im only in stocks to get rich enough so neither I, my siblings, and my parents ever have to wagecuck again.

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Yeah that all sounds bad. I don't have a good feel on equities at the moment. I understood yesterday's insta dip buy but today was peculiar.

I would like this functionality. It would come in handy.

>> No.19120939

Its not a bubble they get paid out by health insurance and government. People can't stop getting MS or other terrible diseases.

>> No.19120940

Alright guys redpill me on Corteva CTVA. I swung it in April for 10% but now they are testing March lows again. I actually considered holding long term but as I saw corn and onions prices drop I got scared. They must have China exposure? Surely if there is a global market to rebound first it would be ag?

>> No.19120953

contract coming !!!!!
its moooooning!!!

>> No.19120955

Soi* ffs

>> No.19120994

>Hundreds of millions dead
>Civilization reduced to a Mad Max hellscape
>War, rape, famine, disease, blackouts, drought, floods, climate change
>SPY 42069
>Fed increases interest rates 0.0009765625 basis points, bringing the real interest rate to -214748364699.90234%
>SPY instantly collapses to negative infinity
>The speed and magnitude of collapse combined with the sheer force of market rage causes a black hole to open at the New York Stock Exchange that swallows the earth

>> No.19120998

should have loaded up on rtx

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>> No.19121046

Not a permabull, just a guy trying to take advantage of the manipulation and jump out before the ship sinks.

Bought a bunch of calls with a risk level that I consider tolerable enough and if everything returns to pre covid temporarily I can turn 6k into tens of thousands (could be hundreds of thousands if I go all in but I'm too scared to risk it all). No intent of holding long term.

>> No.19121059
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>plant-based meat

>> No.19121082

just try it
i cook it like a burger and toss it on a bun. it tastes fine. I don't care that it's not meat.

>> No.19121095

Hopefully, I need 1 last month long pump to drop out with a huge stack. But in case my timing is off I didn't go all in so that the remainder can hopefully make what I lost back.

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so much shitposting in these threads it's unreal... can't even get much substance out of them anymore.. like wtf?!?! where did all you faggots come from?

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Would you recommend I sell all my oil stock come monday? Oil did quite well these last two days, but i keep hearing people say its crashing tuesday

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Eh, semantics. The fuck else do you call it? Processed full-profile amino plant-based meats analogue: pork variant?

It's like nut meats and milk of magnesia.

>> No.19121137

That's likely cause a meat shortage may be about so they'll for a substitute.

>> No.19121146

If I can get 10 years starting today that went like the last 10 years did, I should be able to retire at that point.

>> No.19121160

Absolutely not. Oil is going to be great 12-24 months out and people will kick themselves for not getting into the sector right now while it's cheap.

>> No.19121163

I hope it doesn't crash, my uso puts moved in the opposite fucking way. Why it's pumpjng while other stuff is crashing makes no sense. Intend to stop doing calls or puts on companies I havent watched all that long as they're the ones that usually result in my biggest losses.

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for a 34 year old woman who had a kid within the past year she's pretty damn good and I want some of those genes in my kidlets.

sure she's not prime cunny but she's a qt

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Anybody know what happened with Uranium today? BWXT was up pretty significantly alongside LEU and others. Maybe something to keep an eye on.

>> No.19121210

Disney makes up 12 - 13% of my holdings but if the Q2 report sends the stock to under 90 range I'm gonna hit that buy button like mad.

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Kek we are reaching levels of cope that shouldn't be possible

>> No.19121249

>bought oil stock during a once in a decade or even once in a life time lowpoint
>doesn't hold it for when things go back to normal
>doesn't hold it until the next middle eastern war

You're not going to be making big money in the next week or the next month. But a year? 2 years from now?

Explain to me what you are afraid of.

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>> No.19121264

What oil stocks are worth it anons for next week if it doesn't crash?

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>> No.19121302

CVX isn't that already back to its highs
XOM did they suspend the dividend and are considered a time bomb of failure like GE?

>> No.19121309

Looks like 1080p

>> No.19121316

Kek, how fucked would it be if they do the "warp speed" drug thing and you know they cut corners (which they will) so that mysterious "side effects" show up 5 years later. You'd make a killing on the drug company on the way up once they announce the drug and a killing on the company selling options on it on the way into the shit heap 5 years later.

>> No.19121319

I would add HAL and SLB for oil field servicing. I like them more than the oil producers at the moment.

>> No.19121353

MRO's holding up very good.

>> No.19121412

It’s amazing to see the deflation of certain commodity sectors. Farmers have to cut back, livestock getting culled, oil companies have to stop pumping. Supply chains will take years to come back.

>> No.19121419

that just means a meat packing plant. you know, like a shop. all meat is plant based in that sense.

>> No.19121427

That’s like the screens of LCIfag coping on stocktwats after they dropped 50% after earnings lmao

>> No.19121442

>5 years
It'll have side effects very fucking quickly, you should start hearing about them within a month.

>> No.19121477

>5 years
Bullish, no consequences for Trump since he’ll just be leaving office

>> No.19121532

are coronavirus farts contagious?

>> No.19121549

USO $30, guranteed. Get in now fat faggots.

>> No.19121560

Yes, they are. My neighbors brothers cousin of a cousin of my friend shakwon got corona from a fart at the grocery sto.

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who here /warp speed/?

>> No.19121578

I need to get laid, bros. Fuck this lockdown.

>> No.19121586

Do people really buy a low price and sell it within hours or days? Why wouldn't you wait longer till it goes up again to make a real profit? Do you reinvest your dividend earning stocks to buy more of the same stock or what? Someone explain options trading to me as if I were an 8yo.

>> No.19121600

Smart that trump is taking his cue from fauci and pivoting away from emphasizing the vaccine so heavily. He even tried to talk about therapeutics, though he stumbled over the words.

>> No.19121615

In case you missed it; it's official JCP filed for chapter 7. All those poor people who bought shares.. Say goodbye to your wad..

>> No.19121632

At least in the financial crisis it was just that, a financial crisis. Home prices dropped due to bad mortgages and everyone lost money. Global supply was mostly unchanged. This really isn’t a financial crisis at all. The government printed money and liquidity remained. But global supply has been shaken. Sure we will probably be okay in America, but the rest of the world that relies on a healthy global supply is in trouble. Of course this will hurt us in the end too.

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I'm with you, they shouldn't call it meat just because they feel it's similar to meat.

>> No.19121641

I was about to lose something, but then sold Airbus and got Paypal and Sartorius, which went up after my buy.
So I ended up being in the positive.

Oh and fuck Airbus. Unless they make it to 60€, that stock is not going to see any more money from me.

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If you didn't buy today's CODX dip to $16 then you fucked up.

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>This really isn’t a financial crisis at all
it isn't yet. didn't you hear the fed governor?

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>a fool born every minute

>> No.19121687

Rolling for magical bull run.

>> No.19121708

I'm thinking about selling my first covered calls. When you use Robinhood do they take the shares as collateral? Or so they stay tradeable? Any tips?

>> No.19121715

>stocks surge 12% after employment numbers emerge
Holy shit it works.

>> No.19121718

No, but I’m sure it’s not good. I hope that in the future we will be able to put everyone in America back to work but it will be at the expense of the rest of the global job supply.

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check em

>> No.19121738

Gosh, I wish I bought fucking Paypal shares.

>> No.19121747

Oh izza game.

>> No.19121757

Went to get supplies at kroger today. It felt normal. plenty of shit on the shelves . plenty of paper products. Hell if it wasn't for the masks you'd think everything was alright. No way in hell I'm eating "fake meat". Had my fill of that in school during lunch, all those nasty burgers, sick shit. Been 18 years but I still remember..

>> No.19121763

Fuck you, Boeingman.

>> No.19121832

Vegan/Vegetarian foods have evolved. Their foods are 100000x better than the plastic taste 15 years ago. Women, the biggest cumsomers, love vegan meats. When women spend money on it, you BUY BUY BUY.

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>> No.19121845

It was the last great plane they made.

>> No.19121904

My life is so empty when the markets are closed.

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What makes you think that even matters?

And RahXephon did it better.

>> No.19122033

There is nothing wise about looking like a used up, drugged up, fairy whore but keep being retarded and smug for nothing.

>> No.19122035

Oh shit. He got all the normies to pump it on Thursday and Friday. This is going to get pretty ugly soon, isn’t it?

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The ending to this week was particularly unsatisfying. For was a point there where it looked like snibby would be defeated and volatility would return. But no.

>> No.19122228

Fuck off faggot

>> No.19122291

oh what im really afraid of is the complete collapse of america.

>> No.19122312

Rolling for truth and justice.

>> No.19122335

>wa la

>> No.19122345

Are you fucking serious? It was bad since day one. You can't seize the whole failing economy and expect it to work itself out. Debts both consumer and commercial were ATH. Repos were still being used, programs established during the GFC, 12 years ago. The second the Fed started trying to unwind the shit and increase interest rates we had a minor crisis (Sept., 2019).

This while you have shit like WeWork, Netflix, or Tesla being traded at absolutely absurd valuations while doing little more than cash burning. Forward multipliers well exceeding 20 in the tech domain. This despite commercial profits totally stagnating since 2012, despite that no matter what index you look at it rose disproportionately. Meanwhile fiscal policy and responsibility went out the fucking window, companies leveraging billions in debt, but surely you know about the buyback issue. Did you know about the assfucking that the Fed did to get these already trash companies to self-finance? Boeing had a bond auction and sold $40bn worth of bonds to investors. The Investors bought the bonds knowing that Boeing is going to get downrated so they can sell those bonds to the Fed, that means you're funding somebody else's capital gains, that means the next generation is paying for some faggot's Ferrari.

Oh and now, nobody has cash flow. No-fuckin'-body. most REITs are going to get fucked into oblivion. Anything hospitality oriented is fucking done for. Medical leases? Dealerships? (Strip) malls? The lattermost might be okay, but retail & hospitality is getting cast into the abyss. Banks are going to have razor thin profit, and negative rates being a formally recognized possibility means the financial sector might just get obliterated. New autos are going to be so illiquid it won't even be funny, and that's despite what will most probably be bottom rate gas costs. Disruptive models like WFH are far more likely to be pursued, and it's a great buzz for all the green-trend companies.

>> No.19122365

Which stocks are essentially “last chance to buy” before everything goes back to normal next week?

>> No.19122393

It’s 9PM on Friday soooooo nothing.

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>> No.19122399

Airlines. Since everything's back to normal next week they'll be at ATH by Friday.

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>> No.19122409

Plant-based meat imitation

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Any good penny stocks? hehe.

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>> No.19122510

I wasn’t serious, although I do think a lot of fresh meat takes him seriously, and there seems to be a lot of retail investors right now. I could be wrong I don’t know that. It’s sad because the people who can probably least afford to lose money in the stock market are the most excited about it right now.

>> No.19122542

Why are you posting a tranny?

>> No.19122557

JCP. Now fuck off poorfag.

>> No.19122559

At this point FANG might as well be its own asset class.

>> No.19122596

The government and market response to this natural disaster is the definition of 'indefinite optimism'. We will experience a sustained V-shaped rebound in consumer demand despite the 14.7% unemployment rate and continuing pandemic because _______.

Nobody can fill in the blank. Not one person. The market hasn't reflected the current reality of recession, it's fueled purely by indefinite optimism. Our government still has not developed a coordinated national testing response, because "one day, like a miracle, it will disappear".

I'm not sure if smart institutions dumping equities, several months of depression-tier data, or a second wave of COVID-19 will be the catalyst for a sanity check.

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>> No.19122610

Are we getting another $1200?

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>> No.19122631

Probably only to niggers or some equivilent bullshit like that.

>> No.19122653

Not one Republican 'yea'. The shit heap is not going to pass the Senate.

>> No.19122659

Will every citizen ever get a lump sum like that ever again? I wonder what the next “”””happening””””””” will be like

>> No.19122669

i agree with this sentiment. i simply don't understand where the optimism is coming from and im afraid to invest, it feels as if the rug is going to pulled out at any time.

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Big boys get BIG at the end of a cycle.

>> No.19122692

I don't think anyone but the most resolute of brown nosers with an agenda think that there will be a "v-shaped" economic recovery. We have passed trillions in stimulus on top of unprecedented FED action as JPOW himself warns of dangers ahead. All numbers are down.
The market has barely been tied to the economy for decades. And there is a large degree of TINA everywhere.

>> No.19122714

The optimism is coming from people with very little capacity for fore thought, and you would be surprised just how many of them there are.

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>There is nothing wise about looking like a used up, drugged up, fairy whore but keep being retarded and smug for nothing.
She didn't choose to look like that, but go ahead and keep judging fairies solely off their appearances.

why are you hating on aloe?

still got the short signal or something?

>> No.19122729

smart, he knows creditors are about to get fucking raped. nobody can pay their loans back big bubble about to pop

>> No.19122730

That’s fucked up....

>> No.19122742

Depends on the contents of the bill.

>> No.19122750

deer live in open flat midwest land with corn fields? news to me

>> No.19122781

TVIX bros...i wasn't cocky enough, should have bought more. should've gone all-in. next week is going to be blood red.

>> No.19122796

Liquor store full in the Dallas ghetto, not a single space in the parking lot, a mob of shegroids sauntering and shouting outside the door. That's how you know the nigras finally got 'dey checks'. A new class of Trump voters?

>> No.19122872

Ungrateful. Obama would’ve never given the people back the stolen fruits of their labor. $1200 is just the beginning

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are you actually retarded?

>> No.19122972

Sounds like the video game where a cure for cancer is found but ends up killimg many many people

>> No.19122981

Will I ever be able to buy ADBE at a reasonable price?

>> No.19123040

Niggers are doomed creatures

>> No.19123112
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>mfw lockdown is essentially over here where i live
>mfw you can get together in groups again
>mfw none of my friends want to respond to me because im that one guy that always gets absolutely shitfaced or high outta his mind then starts fights with everyone.
>mfw i do it because i love it

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>Master Jedi, we have found a temporary cure for the ailment; but, we believe that there is a strong possibility that the side effects will be debilitating. What should we do?
>Light: Tell the people and provide comfort for those most in need. More time must be made to find a cure that will benefit everyone.
>Dark: Give them the "cure" immediately. All who refuse are to be imprisoned. Feel free to "alleviate" those who resist of their suffering.
What do you choose, /biz/?

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>mfw part 2

>> No.19123156

I don't understand how either option will benefit me. Who are these people? What does the disease do and what does the cure do?

>> No.19123269

PTON at 52week high
ZM, TWLO and RNG also near highs
CMG over $300

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>just realized that next months car payment is the last one
>extra $234 a month and the '15 corolla is running fine
What should I start throwing that money at boys?

>> No.19123329

/biz/'s latest shitcoin

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>> No.19123361
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what kind of computer you got?
and what kind of portfolio?

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>still got the short signal or something?
Nope. Partially invalidated today. And I got stopped out of it for -1% anyway so i'm /cashgang/ for the weekend. This was more conservative exit than I would normally do. The problem is leaf market closed for leaf holiday on Monday, my inverse S&P ETF trades on the TSX, so I would have my hands tied on Monday if market went higher.

>> No.19123398

Is that Taleb?

>> No.19123406
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1 Share of Zoomcoin every month

>> No.19123433

All I know is they dems tried including illegals in it. Dunno if it passed or not

>> No.19123442

What level of unemployment will mark the point of no return? Meaning businesses will keep closing since they will keep losing their customers and that will trigger more closures etc. until everyone is unemployed basically?

>> No.19123450

lmao you retards still don't get it

>> No.19123461

Computer is good
Portfolio is a fuck

>> No.19123471
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Which touhou am I supposed to start with again?

I see.... well goddamn I kept some of my UVXY and even added. Hopefully this doesn't blow up in my face!
Enjoy your glorious day off.

>> No.19123481

Buy into the Chamath IPO mystery box with me - IPOB.U and IPOC.U, last time SPCE was the IPO.

>> No.19123484

>Chinese spyware company
>Literally banned by governments and big corps
>P/E over 2000
>Providing the same (with fewer features) that Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Cisco provide
>CEO literally Chinese national that used to work for Cisco
This shit is such a fucking joke.

>> No.19123510

<_< i sold my uso puts to early. I really should stop trading options on stocks i dont bother watching much

>> No.19123522

>CEO is a Chinese national

Biggest sell signal.

>> No.19123541

>line go up
Apparently not.

>> No.19123550

All of us will soon be chinese nationals.

>> No.19123561

What are the buys for monday ?

>> No.19123563

>Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Cisco

None of them seriously advertise their services for that purpose or have national name recognition for video conferencing as Zoom currently does. However, the P/E is still way over the top, especially as many of the customers will not be coming back once this pandemic is over.

>> No.19123566

How does this work, I'm interested. Chamath is an OK-ish guy, maybe.

>> No.19123578

>Literally banned by governments and big corps
Oops, you seem to have made a typo. Instead of writing "used by every", you instead typed "banned". No need to thank me, friend, your error has been corrected!

>> No.19123585

>Which touhou am I supposed to start with again?


>> No.19123599

whats the point of college education in this new world? there will be no jobs anyway. wouldn't farming be a better alternative? i don't know if you can feed yourself by running a little farm or the high operational costs would require you to sell part of your produce, not just farm for yourself?

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Correct this, Xiu Ping Yong.

>> No.19123631

Too late to short?

>> No.19123632

Thanks for proving me to be correct. You have been master b8ed.

>> No.19123642

We are taking the virus on the chin. End of story. No vaccine for 4 years. We are going to take our lumps. Honestly we are basically getting off with a warning in terms of pandemics.

>> No.19123646

>left 35k on x15 leverage for DAX bull
how fucked am i mates

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>A gun behind every blade of grass
Chang can go fuck himself. Fuck China

>Cisco Webex (biggest market share, Zoom CEO used to work on it)
>Microsoft Teams
>Google Hangouts
>Facebook (just started)

>Not used by Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Cisco, Apple, Tesla, NASA, US Government etc
Nice try Ping Pong Puu

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>Several days ago you received word from Jedi Masters Pam'lo Durnt and Anton Faou'Chi requesting your assistance.
>The Republic world of Tellus III, far from the galactic core, has recently suffered a violent viral outbreak.
>A pastoral and serene world, the agricultural hub of Tellus III lacks much of the industry that would be required for extensive biological and medical research.
>Moreover, the virulence and rapidity of the contagion have lead the Jedi Council to believe its origins could be far more sinister than initially suspected.
>Of particular interest is the long term respiratory damage it leaves in its wake, and its ability to server Force users' ties to the Force.
>As part of your training, you have been assigned the mission of investigating the mysterious outbreak on Tellus III, and providing aid to its inhabitants. A fully-supplied task force of Republic doctors, research scientists, and peace keepers will accompany you on your mission.

>> No.19123661

The better question is how the fuck did it become so popular. I literally never heard of it before coronavirus.

>> No.19123688

How do I short China and communism?

>> No.19123692

>not used by people who have their own tool and don't like the fact their employees are trying to use a superior tools
>and taiwan
>meanwhile every other country and school in the entire world is using it, as well as every big company
>us did NOT ban it as in this pic, only nasa did
>only (((big))) company to ban it was google, spacex is elongated muskrat's meme and he's a fan of insecure m$ crapware

>> No.19123698

Braver men have died.

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>Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
That's what I thought.

I found a guide for playing touhou on OSX, and the only systems I have access to right now are OSX and Nintendo Wii, and I could use a game.

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>Enjoy your glorious day off.
Thanks but I hate market holidays. Boring. Of course I could trade US equities on Monday, and I may do so if something looks good. Thinking bout that KO.

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>Nobody has responded yet

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So glad to see China reporting strong, STRONG growth. I could expect nothing less from the country of 1.393 billion that had less than 1,000 new cases in March and is now reporting no new cases locally acquired. I wonder what's the secret to their success?

>> No.19123745

>Seething chinkoid

>> No.19123748

It's called a SPAC
>VC makes a publicly traded acquisition company that will merge with a non-specified private company
>you buy shares of the acquisition company, funding the IPO
>they turn into class A shares of the company after merger
>shares come with warrants that give you the right to buy extra shares for a price later proportional to how many you buy
>at some point up to a max of two years later they announce who they're merging with
>can either take the class A shares of new company or bail

For example if you buy 30 shares of IPOC.U (which come with 1/3 warrant) you'll get 30 shares of the unknown company on IPO as well as 10 warrants to buy more shares at 11.50. The shares may or may not be worth more than the price but Chamath is pretty reputable.

>> No.19123751

Do short people short stocks?

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That university I work(ed?) for is using Zoom for online classes this spring/summer. For secure conversations they're using Microsoft something something I forget the name. MS Meetings maybe?

>> No.19123763

Cunny slaves, followed by rope

>> No.19123770

>post pic to try to push his made-up bullshit
>pic directly contradicts him
>gets mad
>sees chinks everywhere
>actually is the only chinksectoid around

>> No.19123785

BWXT is going to retrace a fraction of today's gain at open depending on gap. You should play that. They deal with fission fuel and components. LEU, UUUU, URG also saw substantial uplift. I expect More upward movement Monday.

>> No.19123791

Of course. They correctly handled the outbreak and are already back to FULL POWER. Nothing can stop China! People have jobs, are healthy, and not dying from disease and starvation.

>> No.19123805

>Never mind the 40k burial urns that were supplied with saw ash as reopening gifts to the local families of Wuhan.
kek. China #1.

>> No.19123811

Yeah, it's a bit antiquated compared to the newer games (can't see your hitbox in focus mode for example) so it's better to start there

Remember to use your bombs and not hoard them, they're completely wasted if you get hit while you still have them

>> No.19123815


fuck china i hope our CIA nukes their ass

>> No.19123830

Long oil, it's the only part of the economy that is almost certainly not getting worse than it already is.

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>cunny slaves
in this timeline, there will never be a happening and anime will never be real, so there will never be any such thing.

That would never happen. We would have to make it look like Pakistan, Israel, India, Iran, North Korea, etc. someone else did it. Besides, it would cripple the global economy like Hiroshima never could've accomplished.

>> No.19123873

Guaranteed upcoming rollover woes, but very long term it's a sure thing.

>> No.19123882


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The only reason to keep it secret is if you have something to hide. SPCE is a shitty company, it dumped - 30% after it went public and would have dumped harder were we not currently living in a hyper-inflationary environment for equities.

Had this been a year ago, perhaps I'd bite, but we're at the cusp of a recession or depression of some sort and any 'startup stock' you pick up now has an extremely high probability of being worthless in two years time.

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>Do short people short stocks?

Other than market makers with 100% certainty and insider knowledge, no, not really.
Downside to an actual short has no floor, the stonk can theoretically go to infinity while you're shorting it, and borrowed shares get recalled for ex-dividend dates on the horizon, among other factors.

The instruments to profit from downside are put options and inverse ETFs. Borrowing a stock to short it is really a relic from the era when these things didn't exist.

>> No.19123945

They have to not disclose it for some SEC purposes or whatnot but you're right that IPOs are pretty shit in this environment. The good thing is that it's pretty liquid and you can bail on it at any time.

>> No.19124061

You are about to get pumped to the moon
Hold daddio .. but sell in july

>> No.19124077

What airlines are you guys buying any non-us ones like azul or ryanair?

>> No.19124126

I sold my NVDA 340 calls this morning.
Why the fuck am I so stupid?

>> No.19124201

Ask me how I know your a stocktwit shill

>> No.19124205

Airlines are fucked, their low valuations reflect the very real risk of bankruptcy being priced in.

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I will trade Air Canada when the time comes. The time has not come.

>> No.19124318

I think we'll be red. I hope that we get a second leg down so I can go all in on TSLA calls and make 40k again.

>> No.19124331

I was about $9/lb on Whole Foods delivery like 2 weeks ago. I bought it to compare against actual beef burgers and it tastes almost the same with a slight difference in texture. If cow beef gets more expensive than the jeef then people will get curious, and try out the cheaper alternative, especially since BYND is planning on dropping prices for the summer.

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I had an Impossible burger once and it was surprisingly good. Beyond sucks dick, imo. Either way, I'm not eating that shit because highly processed foods are a one way ticket to an early grave.

Buy TMDX btw.

>> No.19124433

Do u have to pay taxes on your gains?

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Made a whole bunch of moves this week but refusing to post positions because the Bogs have been hot on my trail the last few weeks. Ready for Monday, very ready for Monday.

>> No.19124463

>Eh won't say what stock he bought? Doomp them all

>> No.19124464

Kek I think you are projecting how popular you would like Zoom to be but the company I work for and the companies I have done business with use Microsoft teams and webex. Face it, the CCP over played its hand and now the Chinks are paying for it because of their incompetent government.

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Excerpt from the financial stability report the Fed put out today. May provide some insight into why Buffet dumped GS.

>> No.19124557

>Hedge funds were over-levered.
>Yield chasers were over-levered.
Yes, we know. Couple anons have been saying that for a while.

>> No.19124583

>if I longed Nvidia or Shopify I could have had 500k$ rn

Why didn't you tell me that faggots

>> No.19124603

Everyone was loud and clear about tech and ecommerce going up during corona. Most didn't expect breaking ATH though, and nvidia is not exactly the tech anyone had in mind as prime corona stock.

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>> No.19124640

A team of 23 and their stock is that high. What am I missing?

>> No.19124656

leverage is reset every day so if one of those days until july is down like 3% then 50% of it would be wiped out
i was only hoping for like 1 or 2% pump on monday futures

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Are you folks washing your hands more often?

Have you noticed more handwashing behavior in general?

I did though... that and shopify, cramer insisted on benefitting bigtime, but I thought "oo nuuu the valuations!!" like a pussy and didn't make shit off of that because of it.

It's useful to hear that the fed also thinks this was a factor in the selloff, it's sort of a confirmation that it was overleveraged players being forced to liquidate everything, which is why it's likely the generational bottom for the finest stocks and I'm a retard for selling instead of buying the good shit like LMT and MSFT.

Thank fuck I picked LMT back up but FUCK for missing out on MSFT...

Also that line about pressures over the medium term is interesting...

>> No.19124673


My experience was the opposite, I preferred the Beyond to the impossible Whopper, granted, one was home grilled and the other was from fucking Burger King, and while I agree with your processed food comment, most people won't care as long as it is cheap, available, salty, and greasy. A spot that was originally filled by a lot of US beef is now ripe for the taking due to high costs, closed plants, and damaged supply lines. Both Beyond and Impossible have footholds in major restaurants and grocery stores. Although, I do think that it's too late to buy $BYND right now.

>> No.19124693

>generational bottom
That's not how bear markets work, fortune-teller.

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im in at .33 what are you talking about? green day every day since ive been in. monday green. screenshot this

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Based af. I work at boeing and we ha e hundreds of people at Renton who are super glueing and creating tool totes. They are mechanics and electricians doing arts and crafts. We ain't building fucking nothing currently at renton. The 737 max is a bigger piece of shit than the 787. It was rushed and now we have about 500 that need all its wires replaced. LoL I cashed out half my 401k today so I can spend it myself on the stock market. I want to put that on a great company, not a diversity hiring outsourcing fucking piece of shit

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anuddah day anuddah dollah
list some tickers, nickers

>> No.19124825

Honestly people said that back in the day when the stock was $80 and then it shot above $120. Bynd just keeps going above and beyond. It's a Chad veggie stock.

>> No.19124828

your that schitzo anon that thinks people are spying on you?
>your probably right https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/14/access-your-browsing-history/

>> No.19124833

That's you, not whoever would be dumb enough to buy into it now.

>> No.19124840

we arent in a bear market, literally

>> No.19124849

It is getting the "HOLY SHIT ITS TECH" premium bump

>> No.19124895

Yeah I'd say it makes zero sense but a lot of stock is expensive.

>> No.19124911

Just sabotage that shit and blame it on the chinesium, ez pz economic sabotage that'll fuck those zipperheads up a bit USA USA USA USA

>> No.19124916

>people still shorting oil

>> No.19124922

>not shorting oil when there are no institutional investor in the futures whatsoever and it's about to rollover even worse than last month

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I meant to go huntign for these suckers after it rained.

that is indeed how the stock market works
People were forced to sell whatever they could, next time they'll be selling the shit they want to get rid of. They won't be dumping reliable companies with excellent balance sheets that will be better off after covid than before, like Microsoft. Not to those levels. They will be getting rid of the other shit, the smallcaps and midcaps, the travel and leisure, the restaurants and reits, and the commodities like silver.

it's a notorious short squeeze stock, it's widely hated by individuals but gets money from people who want to throw money at "alternative protein".

If Impossible burgers and other pure-plays on fake meat were trading, Beyond wouldn't pump like that.

>> No.19124941

I feel ya dude

>> No.19124956

the big boys and MMs are about to steal so much dumb retail money that still try to short it

>> No.19124968

How are they going to take delivery, retard? Cushing is 100% full, with another 100% cushing capacity-worth of barrels at shore on saudi tankers trying to unload.

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The only people bagholding over the weekend are people who bought in around lunch when there was obviously a manipulated pump. everyone was in for the day at 1.70.

like I said. green on monday,tuesday,wednesday,thursday,friday

almost like every other day since ive been holding

>> No.19124996


also, those who bought today (regardless of the time)will be green monday.

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WTI nearly $30, I’m coooming.

>> No.19125162

Take a look at where the volume has been flowing into the past month. Where would the sell volume come from within the sectors you outlined if there were further margin calls and additional deleveraging. The markets are entirely too top-heavy right now. If there are further forced liquidations in the event that we see another downturn, tech will lead, followed by the index-matching funds that have benefited from institutional and municipal passive money managers being forced to pinch their nose and buy. Very little that isn't tech or not tied to an index has recovered to anywhere near the extent that the former have, and where would the liquidity come from if they were sold off in a fire sale first?

lel, true enough. Let me rephrase, that's not how very deep recessions typically work and the bear markets within those very deep recessions.

>captcha: cars

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Shouldn't it crash when futures expire next week?

>> No.19125192

It's going to $50 in 2 months.

>> No.19125218

i fucking wish. i can retire if it just slowly keeps going up to that price over two months.

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Can someone explain to me why SHOP is still going up?

>> No.19125386

fomo bubble

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Government juicing up the stocks.

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Corona chan has given the bogs unimaginable power.

>> No.19125578

God I hope W tanks. No fucking reason for that stock to still be as high as it is.

>> No.19125596

>If there are further forced liquidations in the event that we see another downturn, tech will lead, followed by the index-matching funds
maybe so, but I don't predict we'll be seeing forced selling like that that again, I expect investors will continue to want to move up in quality in equities.

The wealthiest aren't holed up on pandemic islands anymore, they see that things haven't gone totally off the rails. And the fed backstopped most everything they could. This isn't the bottom, and maybe we haven't seen the bottom for the indices, though it's possible we have for big tech, so maybe we have for the Nasdaq.

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>> No.19125677

Tech is a primary reason the indices have recovered to the point that they have. If we were to have more downside due to whatever catalyst we could think of, tech will lead the pack down. The index-matching funds will follow, and create a whole slew of collateral damage in their wake.

>> No.19125728

tech is corona-proof. every mom and pop store is moving to the cloud

>> No.19125764

We'll see how well it can hold up to recessionary downward pressure.

>> No.19125934

You are seeing it lad.