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Continued from
>>18972314

This is a simple concept but going through everything means will take a while so get comfy

The old chainlink diagrams like picrelated had a smart contract flow that went (input)->(chainlink node)->(smartcontract network)->(chainlink node)->(output)
The new ones have a network of chainlink nodes in the middle that can talk to existing smart contract networks (ethereum in the ETH talk, all networks in the non-eth talk)
In other words the default flow for a smartcontract no longer needs to touch any network other than chainlink

This doesn't sound like a big deal, but its huge for two reasons: development cycle and value capture.

We knew this was a shift from the time that chainlink announced arbitrum. The reason all the old lingfags sperged out was that opening and enterprise smart contracts platform would require throughout that would swamp ETH. If you watch the Ed Felten fireside chat he talks about simple arbitrum clusters now being capable of a few thousand TPS and, if you look at the KYC'd chainlink nodes right now there are enough for several clusters.

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>> No.18973197

>>18973166
sergay betrayed us all, we were supposed to be all in this together

>> No.18973202

>>18973166
IT'S LITERALLY DUMPING RIGHT NOW

>> No.18973206

>>18973197
give it a rest already

>> No.18973213

>>18973166
This would appear to coincide with the release of external initiators

>> No.18973219

>>18973166
It can not even break $5
If it would be such a great investment, then tell me why not everybody is already in on it?
It is so fucking tiresome and frustrating.

>t.3500 LINKlet

>> No.18973225

>>18973213
https://github.com/smartcontractkit/external-initiator

>> No.18973231

How does trademarking of those other companies logos work with this? Is chainlink allowed to use those logos? Have the logos grown over time?

>> No.18973242

>>18973166
Thanks for the effortpost anon.
I didn’t notice this subtle change in the slides but now you point it out, it is a huge difference. Inputs and outputs are only interacting with LINK nodes, you’re right, but are you sure this change isn’t just due to better graphic design? Is it a fundamental change in the way Chainlink works?

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>>18973166
go on...

>> No.18973321

>>18973166
Checkd. Lay it on us op

>> No.18973329

>>18973250
>>18973321
Do some critical thinking for once in your life

>> No.18973339

>>18973329
Nigger eat shit he said continued

>> No.18973342

>>18973166
No clue wtf you are saying

>> No.18973345

>>18973166
The other thing that never made sense about using Link on ETH was that every link interaction required a link payment, which would further compound the problem. Eth wasn't enough for just contract executions much less the link transfers that would go with millions of chainlink network actions every day.

Well now we know how the team is planning on doing this. Remember how Johnny started chirping about wrapped link (wLINK) recently? It's hard to transfer 0.05 link a million times per day to pay for bank payments, data access etc on Eth but it's pretty easy (and cost efficient) on any of the second gen smart contract networks.

And the best part is this: in order to get wrapped assets we need only two things: a transparent ledger smart contract network and a network of nodes to report on the actions of the base network's blockchain (in this case ETH).

This sounds confusing and I'll go through a full example at the end. Just remember since the very beginning the chain.link site had a diagram like OP and also one showing that Chainlink's network could be used for cross chain communication, which is how this is all facilitated.

Note that now everything that the world needs for a smartcontract network that is capable of doing what high value smart contracts need is now completely under the chainlink team's roof: the inputs and outputs, the execution and the cross chain communication.
No offense to ETH, but they have been dogshit when it comes to making development deadlines and even if they make every deadline they've set for ETH 2.0, they won't have an actual smart contract compatible POS network up for two more years (beacon and sharding are all that's coming in july, maybe)

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>>18973202
>literally

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>>18973345
Thank you fern. I am exceedingly comfy.

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>>18973250
pretty much the old guard is literally old with guards as they're dying off.
and they weren't total 100% evil.
they are looking at the youth/future who will inherit their power as they die off, and they enjoy autistic people like vitalik and sergey, and the autistic kids.
they have confidence in our bases.
that we will be allowed to hold some power in this world when the oldguards can not.

they're passing the torch to us.

is that simp enough to understand?

>> No.18973416

>>18973345
The observation that they'll use any L2 that's appropriate should go a little deeper.

What they're offering developers of smart-contract driven systems is the ability to allow the oracle network to determine (and adjust) an optimal execution environment based on user-defined preferences for speed, cost, and privacy. One could use the same contract in several different applications and end up having it run on different networks as costs fluctuate.

>> No.18973435

>>18973166
How can you not understand how link works in 2020 OP?

>> No.18973437

>>18973166
thanks thomas

>> No.18973475

>>18973345
The absolute best part of this is the value capture. Remember way back Sergey was a firstmarker, so he's the exact opposite of vitalik in this sense: he is going to take the big slice of cake when it's offered. He even made a tweet way back when that said something like "I bet if you could own part of HTTP your investment would do very well." That's ruthless e-capitalist for saying "how come we don't own the fucking air so that every time someone breathes we get paid."
At the very end I'll go through every value layer of this whole thing and show you how cornered he really does have the market.

Let's go fully soup to nuts on how this shit works and then go through the value layers at the end.

User uses some enterprise front end like office, docusign, SAP whatever to construct their smart contract. They have no idea who supplies the data (chainlink), the contract executions (chainlink), the resultant bank payment (chainlink), receipt to their customer's enterprise system (chainlink) and necessary regulatory documents (chainlink). All they know is that it works and it's never had problems (because the network defaults to chainlink's KYCd nodes run by people used to giving 99.99% uptime).

Is the contract costing too much because it requires 1000's of sub $1 link payments? No problem, there's a check box where you can useyour bank to use wLINK on tezos for all of those payments and have near zero transaction costs for each transfer (which will then be batched daily by a separate smartcontract to the data or API supplier's payment address in the format of their choice be it crypto or USD).

Or better yet, let's say you don't want to think about any of that. There's a dynamic smart contract that will find the network that offers wLINK with the lowest transaction cost and allow you to purchase (via a chainlinked derivative) those future "spends" for the current cost plus 20% and lock in that rate for the next year.
Cont'd

>> No.18973479

>>18973166
> "In other words the default flow for a smartcontract no longer needs to touch any network other than chainlink"

/biz/ really is fucking dead. The pajeets ship of theseus'd us.

>> No.18973489
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I have no clue what your talking about but I hope you autists are right about this whole chainlink think.

I have my entire life savings invested.

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>>18973479
Meant to attach this pic i snapped of OP.

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>>18973475
go on..

>> No.18973538

>>18973489
Take out your initial investment you faggot.

>> No.18973546

based thread. keep it coming.

how much link to make it, and how long until then?

>> No.18973551

>>18973475
And if you take a step back, you quickly realize that there is a super simple business that exists selling those link derivatives and making the front end seamless for the end user. Google could simply use its machine learning backend to dynamically adjust which network is used for wLINK transfer for payments, which network is used to post the smart contract language and how many link nodes are used to execute the contract thousands of times per day. And all for a very reasonable fee, of course. The end user will just pick how fast they want their contract to execute and how much security they need at every level and then pay for the whole package through their bank, visa or whatever payment method they choose.

So here are all the value layers captured within this whole thing, how monopolistic they are (which implies what their price drivers are) and who owns that value:

>> No.18973558

>>18973413
>The meek shall inherit the earth

>> No.18973562

>>18973538
No Link is either going to make me super rich or it is going to bankrupt me.

>> No.18973581
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>>18973551
Eatin' this shit up anon

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>>18973166
>arbitrum

That literally changed everything and brainlets here dont realise it or talk about it at all.
I swear to fuck nulinkers are normies and are lucky as fuck. they are the same people who ignored link and couldnt see implications till it pumped above 2$, and even now they cant see new developments in front of them.

Abritrum made Link the central part of smart contracts. It wont be long till Eth is just a transaction layer and NOTHING ELSE. This new slide confirms that development.

on the Dip in the past two days i bought 5000 more Link. I buy even more every dip since Abritrum announcement and I was accumulating this shit from 20-60 cents back in the day. I didn't ever plan to buy over 1$ but Abritrum changed my mind.

>> No.18973592

>>18973562
im in the same boat as you

>> No.18973600

>>18973416
Ok, this is a new twist on something I thought I already knew. Thanks

>> No.18973618

>>18973587
This anon gets it. Anything under $200 is still the best medium-term hold in crypto

>> No.18973655

>>18973546
>how much link to make it, and how long until then?
bull-time. could be this year or the next, don know. link will keep pumpin till then tho.
doesnt matter how much to make it, let bitcoin pump, when it keeps breaking ath and ath it will crash for a while and alts will pump like crazy. When you feel that happened, sell and wait on the sidelines for a new opportunity if you don't have enough.

>> No.18973669

>>18973551
Can you please answer me this one fucking question:
Why the fuck have people not realized that shit after all those months and years?
And don't tell me they have: We are not even able to break fucking $5 after nearly 3 years

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18973670

Why is arbritum that big of a deal? Wtf is it, convince me and I will buy LINK right away with my funds.

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>>18973489
>>18973538
fuck that.

get a job, and live the poor life.
put everything you have into link.
whatever you do, link is going to give you a raise..
so even if you are wagecucking for minimum wage..
your like is going to buff that 20x minimum in next 5 years or so..

so if you are making 10.00 an hour..
you are really making 200.00 an hour right now
but you'll have to manage to stay alive and be poor for many years before you see any fucking fruits of your labour..
and by fruits, yes i mean 10/10 qt ts traps with milker titties, fenis of your choice, female milkers, waist, face, voice, hands, feet, smells.
the whole works..
you wont even have to have sex either.
so no homo.
your ts qt trap, will literally lure the hottest fertile women to you, because your ts trap will be 11/10 god tier, so all women will think you are a prize, and you can have your pick.

not even larping.
this is the redpill of redpill.

we're all gonna be so fucking rich the media is going to just talk about "seth" rich
for fucking years after august 2020.
and link begins to bloom.

this world is changing fast.
and we're the cream of the crop now.

everyone out there, is trying to be like us.
they have no idea.

if you interact with the normies out there in business/trades etc, you can see they are all beginning to wake up, how we did decades ago.

link is going to ath for 20 fucking years.
we're what? 2.5 years in now?
from 12 to $4.?

shit will be like $400 bucks minimum at somepoint.

>> No.18973684

>>18973655
>if you don't have enough.
checked
are 3500 LINK considered a good stack in 3 years?

>> No.18973685

>>18973669
Remember when nobody thought BTC would amount to anything? That was 2016. 7 years after it deployed.

We've had 3.

>> No.18973688

>>18973670


>spoonfeed me

gtfo

>> No.18973713

>>18973670
We don’t want you to buy LINK, fuck off newfag

>> No.18973729

>>18973551
Consumer facing front end: Already entrenched in business practice and monopolistic for legacy companies, high value

Public data inputs: Cheap and easy to get, but require effort and decentralization to make robust enough for smart contract use. Relatively low value captured by Chainlink's node network

Private data inputs: Price set by providers like bank balances, public title holder databases, employee data etc. Take effort and node assurances like slashing for non-response to make robust enough for sc network. Effectively monopolistic and so high value, captured by the chainlink network

Smart contracts posting: Can be done by any smart contract network with high volume execution through chainlink's off chain arbitrum network. Infrequent (only needs posting once) and infrequent on-chain runs if desired by the user. Eventually some contracts will become the defaults for certain types of interaction. Low value because of low frequency, captured by the smart contract network (Eth, tezos etc.)

Large volume link transfers and locking for cross chain use: Link will probably always live on Eth 1.0 and large volume link transfers for exchange use, large wraps for providing liquidity to other chain's wLINK volume will probably always occur on chain on ETH. You'll see these kinds of actions as often as tether prints a few million, which means very infrequently as it will be cost efficient to use other means with wLINK. Low value because of infrequent use.

wLINK transfers for payments: can happen on any smartcontract network and will have significant competition for low cost. Doesn't need extremely high security as values transferred will be low (often less than a penny for high volume jobs). Low value because of high value and non-monopoly

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>> No.18973777

>>18973166
>The new ones have a network of chainlink nodes in the middle that can talk to existing smart contract networks (ethereum in the ETH talk, all networks in the non-eth talk)
>In other words the default flow for a smartcontract no longer needs to touch any network other than chainlink

Alright, finally got my answer. This explains why Docusign was able to deny the above using blockchain tech yet Gonser tweeted and @ us about it (anyone got a link to that)?

>> No.18973781

>>18973538
>>18973562
>>18973592
>>18973681

Based. I’m an oldfag from 2017. I bought after the ico and was in all of the old wagyu/landlord/wallet autist/drunkanon threads (didn’t post in ABs). Anyway I put in all my life savings too and haven’t sold a single link. My net worth is now more than my whole family’s. Not phased. I was just fucking with you to draw out newfags. You’re going to make it. Don’t swing. Don’t trust anyone. Not selling is not a meme. Good luck.

>> No.18973798

>>18973684
top 6% of wallets

>> No.18973823

>>18973684
yes,
100k-1million+

>> No.18973825

>>18973781
I mean oldfag relatively to link. My time on biz is embarrassingly longer.

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>>18973781
i told my boss about chainlink when i started working for him, he called it a chinese scam
because of binance being the place to grab some. told me i was better off getting stocks.

i've been richer than my boss for about a year now.
and i make about 1/3rd he makes :)
and he's been doing this for 10 years.
already wealther than he is.
i don't have the heart to tell him.

he actually cut my hours when i mentioned i surpassed his companies wealth.

jealous fuck.

fuck em.

>> No.18973854

>>18973345
While I'm as bullish as anyone, you will still need a blockchain. The blockchain anchors the security of Arbitrum, staking/SLA enforcement, and even off-chain movement. Now you can route a certain portion of computation off chain or get decentralization with one on chain cost in threshold signatures, but you still need a secure settlement layer.

>> No.18973870

>>18973825
>>18973781
we are going to make it fren

>> No.18973893
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>>18973729
Actual smart contract executions: There would be significant competion here if chainlink didn't own the inputs and outputs (which are the key to everything). Since CL does, almost all traffic will default to links nodes (which will be cheaper than going Link input to smartcontract network to link node output). Cost dependent on how much security you want (high if you want every node involved and reporting for your billion dollar contract, low if you only need 5 or so).
Also think about this from the CTO's perspective:
"so how do i know these nodes will do a good job?"
"Well you can use anonymous nodes on eth/tezos for more cost or you can use our professionally run node network with IT experts at the helm of each that are already securing a billion dollars for less, which would you prefer?"
High volume from the moment they turn on the taps. High value.

Data, payment, enterprise software outputs: obvious high value, high frequency and value captured by the output provider's chainlink node

Sergey literally took all the highest value portions and gobbled them up, leaving just enough of the scraps for the (picrelated, look at the top) hundreds of competing non-chainlink sc networks to not kill themselves. The value for what they do will become like internet bandwidth. the value for what chainlink does will become like other monopolistic IT and tech companies, but without the overhead costs, costs of physical goods and server/bandwidth costs (which are borne by the node operators).

>> No.18973906

>>18973202
You had 2 years bobo just buy in and hold.

>> No.18973920

>>18973854
There will be three settlement layers. A bandwidth optimized (BSV,) a privacy optimized (Praxxis,) and a storage optimized (nervos) option.

See above: smart contract chains running on CL will dynamically provision such resources as required. Remember, all layer 1 technologies can atomic-swap through an intermediary like CL.

>> No.18973931

>>18973893
When will we see the catalyst? How long will it take? Do we see the fireworks and people start realizing how big this is within months? Years?

>> No.18973942

>>18973489
The life savings of a 22 years old are like a thousand bucks.

>> No.18973953

>>18973931
>within months? Years?
propaply more like decades

>> No.18973974

>>18973777
Based trips
He was wrong though, in a way. I mean, if Chainlink is being used, then Eth is still ultimately involved as link’s ledger. No?

>> No.18973982

>>18973893
To everyone asking why the price isn't higher, how nobody gets this etc. you need to understand this:

None of this is live yet.

Until that happens, price is speculation. Once it does go live (and by live i mean that you can fire up your business's SAP, MSFT word etc. and make a smart contract) Chainlink is worth more than all value transfer networks (BTC, XMR etc.) plus all smartcontracts networks (ETH tezos etc.) plus a small portion of all global trade and finance that uses enterprise tech like MSFT, SAP, Docusign etc. etc. etc.

>> No.18974047

>>18973681
What would you do if it doesn’t?

>> No.18974048

>>18973982
>how nobody gets this
Everybody can look it up
Sergey said himself recently, that they worked together with SWIFT and banks and insurance companies long before 2017
If you can count to 3, then you should realize, that it is either Chainlink or nothing.
There are retards out there who buy Nano, just because of the fact that it transfers faster and cheaper than BTC
Are people really that fucking stupid?
I can't fucking imagine being this retarded.
I am not an early Marine from 2017/18, but even I realized at some point, that LINK is the best bet in this whole space and went All in

>> No.18974057

>>18973166
OP, the people here honestly don't deserve this level of spoonfeeding, but regardless all the write ups in this thread are greatly appreciated

>> No.18974058

>>18973669
Because 90% of the market are retards. Most think chainlink is a smart contract platform, for whatever reason.

>> No.18974061

>>18973982
tell us when this stuff will be live

>> No.18974078

>>18973843
That’s awesome seriously. That must feel so cool lol.

>> No.18974104

>>18973931
The catalyst will be the moment the supply of LINK no longer covers the total value demanded by the network stakes from moment to moment.

At the point where a large player realizes they must compete to purchase enough LINK for their next project, having realized immense value from their initial contracts, they will begin to accumulate a warchest to ensure they can meet opportunities as they arise.

Peer companies will recognize this shift in behavior, and be forced to follow suit or risk losing opportunity.

Arms-race.

>> No.18974105

>>18974048
Normies are only focused on coin go up, they don't have the patience and willingness to understand anything past basic crypto projects. Also many just blindly follow a big influencer that will tell them BUY BITCOIN HALVENING or 10 REASONS TO BUY TRON, you have to be in the smart minority to make the most money

>> No.18974139

>>18974048
Mate people think they're smart for investing in XRP. If asked why, the extent of their response is basically "because banks will use it". These people think they're smart and have everything figured out. That's our competition, that's who we're up against.

To OP: thanks, absolutely based thread.

>> No.18974153

>>18974104
I came

>> No.18974154

>>18974061
I don't know anything more than anyone else here. One funny symbiosis between chainlink and 4chan is that because this board full of autists found chainlink so early, the team had to become insanely good at opsec early on. Ironically this may have been good for the project long term, despite the ugliness.

And honestly if I did know, I wouldn't post it here because the simple act of having posted it would mean they'd likely change the date. They're reading this thread right now for sure making certain a team member isn't leaking. There are probably some parts I have slightly wrong that they'd love to correct but won't.

>> No.18974180

token not needed

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All this theoretical woo and we still don't even have staking

>> No.18974232

>>18974047
kilogram gold bars.

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>>18974154
Hello Chain Link team members! I'm having trouble identifying the metal this cube is made from. Can you help? Thanks just bought 100k

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>>18974198
no shit.
the earliest we will see it is july 20th-26th.

that is a possible earliest.

so probably 2 more years away.

>> No.18974315

>>18974280
2 years is a pretty good timeline to think about. We're in the market-validation phase as far as "investors" are concerned - they're not just trained to see risk more readily than we are, they're also bound by social pressure and red tape. They'll NEVER go all in, and not a single professional has invested as much as they'd like because their clueless boomerboss would be big mad.

It'll take time for the red-tape dam to break and the real money to be unleashed by the oldguard.

>> No.18974326

>>18974280
>>18974315
>Just two more years bro

We've been saying this since 2018

>> No.18974329

>>18973587
this is why vitalik is so buttmad over anything chainlink related. he sees the writing on the wall

>> No.18974340

>>18973587
based

>> No.18974346

>>18973345

Oh shit this is huge

fuck

>> No.18974348

>>18974326
And we were right - it's been the highest performing asset in the world this whole time. The rate of acceleration is still accelerating.

>> No.18974354

>>18973670
Arbitrum enables smart contracts to pay for processing in LINK instead of GAS. This gives them 1) faster processing 2) privacy 3) off-chain data if required 4) better for the environment and 5) you get all that for considerably less cost than gas.

Consider this - ethereum requires all nodes to process your transaction, it's slow, has no privacy, and its expensive because the entire network is working for you. What if instead you could specify that you only want say 4 nodes, who have exceptional reputation, and who have privacy achieving capabilities, and then you only pay them for the work and nobody else.

That's Chainlink with Arbitrum. It's fucking huge.

>> No.18974356

>>18973670
end your fucking life if you still haven't bought, don't buy link it's a scam

>> No.18974380

>>18974104
Stop, my penis is already painfully hard

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im telling ya, when my boss figured out i was richer than he was i am pretty sure he went into the bathroom to snort a fucking adderal to feel better..

i lost so many friends in rl because of crypto.
i used to tell them ITS LINK!
when they were trying to get me to sign up for bitconnect.
that 1 really made me lose alot of friends.
real life ones.

i told those fucks it was a scam.
and to by this autistic meme shit token.
when everything was exploding parabolically.
i was like "no, its this lil piece of shit meme token right here.. this is the 1.."
now they're in the - for years now.
buying fucking 15k bitcoins and shit..

and here we are..
with our cup of coffee priced the fuck in.

>> No.18974443

>>18974418
tell us more

How did you tell your boss about link?

>> No.18974448

>>18973345

So basically in theory if everyone ended up wanted to use wrapped LINK on one particular 2nd gen network, a billion link would be locked up in an Ethereum contract, never to be transferred on Ethereum again, and then all wLINK transfers would basically occur on that 2nd gen network? And here's where my understanding of Chainlink's organization gets a little fuzzy. Is there some further aspect of Chainlink nodes that would require Ethereum processing at all? Could oracle nodes abandon ETH altogether, have Chainlink essentially running on whatever network one desires, and get paid in wrapped LINK?

>> No.18974468

>>18973345

Technology advancement works like this: You see a problem and create a solution, essentially a bandage that allows further advancement of such tech. However, ChainLink went ahead and created “bandage“ for a “wound” the that simply doesn’t exist. In fact, it is incredibly and entirely speculative and more likely that the problems ChainLink aims to solve will never exist in the first place.

Investing in ChainLink is like planning your wedding 10 years from now, the only problem is you’re not in a relationship yet but you’ve still paid for and put the name of you’re future wife on all the invitations. The likely hood of you finding a wife to marry in 10 years with that exact name is like exponentially unlikely.

>> No.18974473

>>18973166
Everytime we bounce on linkbtc support, the shills come out. Everyone knows link is the real deal but this kind of emotional rollercoaster is so draining. I know you just bought the dip and that this info you posted will not change that. I'm so so tired.

>> No.18974511

This week coinbase finally allowed me all of my free random tokens for taking quizzes and I transferred them all into LINK just in case the 1000 EOY memes became a reality. Would be hilarious if I just wake up someday with 15k just chilling iny account

>> No.18974534

>>18974468
>I’ll take ways this post is so fucking wrong for $500, Alex.

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>>18974443
in the truck driving into boston to build a townhall.
talking about how economy was doing good..
jobs everywhere. stock market soaring..
showed him binance app..
thought i was a genius, but dumb for siding with chinese markets.
he still thinks its chinese/foreign shit.
he even told me i had a problem throwing so much money into link, and i should grow up and put it into stocks.

fuck that.

that was cool maybe 50 years ago, sure.
but i'm not here to invest in the past, i'm here to invest in the future, for myself, and others, like all of you.
love my frens.

>> No.18974558

>>18973982
>OP
https://twitter.com/chainlink_alert/status/1259142264489758720

>> No.18974563

>>18974537
Boston already has a city hall champ

>> No.18974567

>>18974448
Yes. The nature of CL is that it can store its token value on any arbitrary L2.

>> No.18974580

>>18974563
https://malden.wickedlocal.com/news/20181017/malden-city-council-to-consider-final-funding-for-new-city-hall

ok allow me to be a bit more specific.

>> No.18974745

>>18973197
t. the entire crypto industry

>> No.18974883

>>18974448
Were the fudders right all along? Token not needed?

>> No.18974999

>>18973920
>There will be three settlement layers. A bandwidth optimized (BSV,) a privacy optimized (Praxxis,) and a storage optimized (nervos) option
What? Why and why those ones and isn't bsv a scam?

>> No.18975055

>>18974999
BSV is undergoing the same FUD campaign on biz that any worthwhile project endures.

Why those? Because they're accurate examples to illustrate the triad of L1 elements. The specific chains aren't relevant, the three core niches are.

>> No.18975118

>>18974418
> snort an adderall to feel better

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dwkb8RHkCU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f6wCz3rC_s


have a good day frens.
will see you on the hovering yacht.

>> No.18975147

>>18974448
Yes. You don’t need to be an Ethereum node to run the EVM. With Arbitrum, you can compute off network in a EVM environment regardless of the main chain.

>> No.18975175

>>18974999
Oh. Right. Why?

Because the majority of value transfer needs to happen quickly, regardless of the sort of data associated with it. So the bandwidth oriented chain (whatever has the highest tx/$ ratio) will perform most of the total consensus.

A privacy coin will mediate value transfer and data associated with medical records, national secrets, business secrets, black market activities, and anything else that implies a privacy requirement. Privacy increases computational complexity and network latency, so it'll always be necessary but will never mediate trades that don't require it.

Space optimized chains provide consensus for exotic use-cases that require perfect availability of data, like publishing authentic documents. These are the chains that offer reasonable game-theory for long term L2/L3 state-storage and other weird "only the robots care about this" shit.

>> No.18975188

>>18975055
post a pic of your hand

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>>18975188

>> No.18975221

>>18973213
>>18973225
Good point
Makes me wonder how much of the backend will be fully automated at launch. It may be that all gas cost minimization and trust optimization will just be done by google ML on the backend from the jump in exchange for them writing the optimization and maintaining a series of CL nodes that do this.
That would make sense in how early chainlink and google made that announcement

>>18973416
This is a clearer way of putting one of the below posts

>>18973587
Arbitrum truly changed everything

>>18973854
This is true but you're greatly underestimating how much of this stack is coming off the baselayer. 1 post for the smart contract code to a transparent blockchain and maybe 1/10000 code executions that need to talk to the dispute resolution layer (likely far fewer given who runs chainlink nodes) versus millions of data calls, millions of api pings and missions of smart contract executions on the arbitrum layer per day. we're talking >99% here.

>>18974354
And really, you don't need as the user to pay in link at all. Everything will be converted to link on the backend but you'll never know that the money that just came from your bank account is going into any of this, it will just happen. No wonder exchanges have been bending overbackwards to give chainlink every bit of liquidity they can muster.

>> No.18975243

>>18973974
Touche, for the transaction settlements. And this was the tweet I was referring to

https://twitter.com/DocuSign/status/1253714818399301632?s=20

(simplified version) https://twitter.com/DocuSign/status/1254903400174702592?s=20

Someone asked if they used blockchain tech in the first one, and they denied using it. That tweet with the same video was deleted and this one here was uploaded afterwards.

>> No.18975268

>>18974326
Have you not +10x in 2 years? Jesus

>> No.18975307

>>18974448
Not a billion link, but whatever amount of link needed to be locked up to provide adequate liquidity to that portion of the stack's operation.

Hypothetically imagine if 200mm were used for rapid low value transfers to pay for data and api access on something like tezos or stellar or some other high throughput low cost network. and another 100mm to provide USD/link liquidity so that any bank can offer instant low slippage conversion for their banking customers. And another 100mm for private chain customers of x project.
This is another demand driver that people don't think about. Aside from link getting hoovered up for node staking, it's also going to get locked up to provide wlink on every one of those smart contract networks on the top part of that slide. Every one of those chains is now competing for the 1bn link currently on the eth network.
And there will never be more.

>> No.18975384

>>18973618
What the fuck $100 is a pipe dream for chainlink.

>> No.18975387

>>18975221
>No wonder exchanges have been bending overbackwards to give chainlink every bit of liquidity they can muster.
kek no. Link trends on twitter and they think they can make money off trading fees.

>> No.18975396

>>18975175


>Because the majority of value transfer needs to happen quickly
Chainlink - Arbitrum

>A privacy coin will mediate value transfer and data associated with medical records, national secrets, business secrets, black market activities, and anything else that implies a privacy requirement.
Towncrier TEE + Mixicles

> Space optimized chains provide consensus for exotic use-cases that require perfect availability of data, like publishing authentic documents.

Don't see why we need a dedicated blockchain for this. You'll need a stronger argument for this, as well as everything else you're arguing for.

>> No.18975436

>>18975175
>>18975055
I like the way you think.

I actually hold a small amount of BSV. It occurred to me that bsv could obviate ChainLink eventually if it succeeds in line with CSW's claims. If everything is stored on-chain, you probably don't have much use for something like link to interoperate.

But if you envision three types of chains...

>> No.18975454

>>18975055
>>18975175
And thank you!

You've provided an interesting perspective that I've never seen anywhere.

>> No.18975525

I refuse to learn anything about what I am investing in. Knowing what the fuck chainlink even is makes me want to sell.

>> No.18975543

>>18973893
>Actual smart contract executions: There would be significant competion here if chainlink didn't own the inputs and outputs (which are the key to everything). Since CL does, almost all traffic will default to links nodes (which will be cheaper than going Link input to smartcontract network to link node output).

I think you're getting confused here, you will still need the base layers (eth, tezos, whatever...) to execute the smart contracts, so it will always go: cl_node->base_layer->cl_node

>> No.18975637

>>18975396
POW is the baseline argument for L1, and without it Chainlink would have no terrain to fight on.

POW can be approached in substantially different ways, even while performing a substantially similar energy -> security conversion, and each method provides different characteristics that are more or less adaptive to different use-cases.

>Chainlink - Arbitrum
Value transfer doesn't happen on Arbitrum. A proxy is created and transferred. I understand the difference is subtle - this is the digital analogy for giving someone a coin or writing them a check. The check is not a value transfer, it's the right to a value transfer. An arbitrum transfer eventually terminates on L1.

>Towncrier TEE + Mixicles
Private computation and execution of a contract is not the same thing as private communication and untraceable currency. Towncrier and Mixicles are every bit as reliant on a private L1 as https is reliant on certificate authorities.

>Don't see why space optimized is important...
Call the space-optimized blockchain L0 if you prefer. The present state of a blockchain is a function of it's tx history. If the high bandwidth main-chain is being well used, we HAVE TO cull the vast majority of transactions and save important snapshots in a separate chain if we're going to maintain the integrity of the ecosystem for decades or centuries into the future without forcing every node to download petabytes of historical data.

>> No.18975640

>>18975543
that's where you are mistaken, look at arbitum

>> No.18975655

>>18975454
it's a retarded perspective based on fanboyism for unremarkable random shitcoins he has bags of. you literally see it everywhere. and you're shitting up the one actually useful thread on the board right now by responding to it. both of you should fuck off

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>>18975655
>you're shitting up the board by responding

>> No.18975717

>>18975640
Arbitrum still needs ETH to run

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>>18975307

Hey OG, fella dot hunter here. Nice to see a good thread again.

Do you think one of the reasons why Tezos and LINK pumping together lately is because of usage? The external initiator clearly shows Tezos is able to use Chainlink Ethereum nodes, and has been able to for some time.

>> No.18975916

>>18975717
the point of eth was supposed to be to run dapps on chain. arbitrum lets you sidestep a giant chunk of the work that would need to be done on ethereum and do it off chain. it still uses ethereum but it's hard to argue that it's good for ETH's value.

>> No.18976009

>>18973479
We’ve know all this shot for years true, but now the market and the price is catching up. Did you think we would hit 1000$ eoy without the midwits finally having some understanding? Inb4 we don’t need them big corporate will buy, big corporations move bigly slow a single person can respond fast , also you need visionary corporate to buy selling link is extremely hard against normal corporate who believes if it works don’t fix it and if it’s too good to be true it is

>> No.18976028

>>18975916
Yeah, I agree with that. I was just pointing out that the whole point of chainlink is to allow contracts to be settled on immutable ledgers, so what he was saying (that they would shortcut this step) was a bit retarded as it defeated that purpose. Agree on the fact it will use these layers for much less tx than initially thought. But I mean, we know this since the magic bus medium article.

>> No.18976099

>>18973843
>i mentioned i surpassed his companies wealth
don't do this shit, nothing good ever comes of it. just enjoy the smug feeling without making enemies

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Thinking about selling half my stack and buying back in lower when it dips below 4, anyone thinking the same thing? it seems to breach 4 then go back down.

>> No.18976159

>>18976099
this, also don't flaunt wealth, you'll only get into trouble, stay humble and cool

>> No.18976161

>>18976112
Nigger if you are swing trading this you deserve to stay poor

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>>18976112
Please do

>> No.18976222

>>18973843
Dont count whats in other peoples wallets. Hes been working 10 years longer then you have. Maybe he saved every check. Dont be a smug faggot. I know its hard not to when your whole life has been a failure up untill you putt money into link.

>> No.18976251

>>18976161
>>18976185
I've never sold any before. But it continues to reach 4 and fall back down, it looks enticing. I probably wont because i like to accumulate mindlessly.

>> No.18976287

Op, shut the fuck up and stop spoonfeeding the newfags.

>> No.18976435

Is 2000 Chainlinks enough to make it?

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>>18973982
>Chainlink is worth more than all value transfer networks (BTC, XMR etc.) plus all smartcontracts networks (ETH tezos etc.) plus a small portion of all global trade and finance that uses enterprise tech like MSFT, SAP, Docusign etc. etc. etc.
hold on a sec, im all-in chainlink, derisked my investment so im already paid from it and riding an okay stack, but saying that Chainlink is bigger than fuckin blockchains and all crypto combined + global trade is a huge fuckin reach.

even if this shit goes live and works perfectly, chainlink token can be stagnant on some price because knuckleheads i.e. 60-70 y.o head of bank/insurance whatever company will not trust this blockchain meme.

not to mention jews and other conspiracy clubs.

playing devil's advocate here further, if this is THE project of crypto, why 90% of fuckin circulated tokens are not off the market already.

seems like through 2018-2020 dips, big hedge funds/companies etc who understood what it brings to the table would buy couple of millions USD worth and just take control of the network.

just like people did with BTC, ETH etc.

why would they not drive the price already to double digit, when fundamentals didn't change on march 13 ?

scrub more out or it's just a speculation like all of crypto, nothing is guaranteed imo.

with all of this, non-scam marketing from the team, solid development progress etc and we are still on fuckin 4 bucks.

>> No.18976450

>>18975268
More like 5x

>> No.18976466

>>18975268
Average buy-in was around 60 cents

>> No.18976616

>>18976435
Depends how does a redeemable voucher for 20 mcnuggets sound?

>> No.18976710

>>18976439
>even if this shit goes live and works perfectly, chainlink token can be stagnant on some price because knuckleheads i.e. 60-70 y.o head of bank/insurance whatever company will not trust this blockchain meme.
Then those that do, the younger generation will be able to simply outcompete the old farts
>seems like through 2018-2020 dips, big hedge funds/companies etc who understood what it brings to the table would buy couple of millions USD worth and just take control of the network.
You have to realize that those that understand link are a minority, much smaller than you'd think

>> No.18976749

>>18976435
I think link can go to $10-20 perhaps sell around there and get in a different project with potential. There's alot of people with 100k+ stacks who have not sold yet.

>> No.18976913

>>18976439

Oracle
Salesforce
DocuSign
Swift
MicroSoft
GoogleCloud

Would you say they these guys are unaware of link? Are you mad because your "ok stack" is literally linklet pajeet tier? It isn't like you didn't have /biz/ spoon feeding you for 2 years.

>> No.18976934

>>18976749
My most conservative estimate of link on a 1-3 year timeline is $60-$250. You either understand this now or you will later.

>> No.18976961

>>18975387
>exchanges are paid (by fees from market makers & takers) to provide a platform on which market makers (who collect on the spread) can provide liquidity for chainlink buyers & sellers. everyone wins while acting selfishly & rationally

>> No.18977008

>>18974153
smells good doesn't it

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>>18976710
>You have to realize that those that understand link are a minority, much smaller than you'd think
its not 2018 anymore.
>>18976913
50$ per LINK sets me for life and you wish you would be this white rajeesh

>> No.18977124

>>18973206
Fuck off.

>> No.18977241

>>18975307

Sure, I was just thinking if everyone making chainlink transactions wanted to abandon Ethereum altogether. I was wondering if there is anything Ethereum provides to the network beyond settlement of link token transfers, ie if CL network could run entirely on Tezos without needing Ethereum throughput at all.

The latter part is also something I got excited about as soon as I heard this news. Beyond speculators, LINK is only getting scooped up by people and organizations that intend to use the Ethereum network. Now any clients on any network will have demand for LINK and the tokens will get scarcer much faster

>> No.18977268

>>18977053
it's 2020 and the majority of crypto still has no fucking clue

>> No.18977270

Finally a good thread. Thanks OP

>> No.18977276

>>18974418
i would hate to be more poor than a boss who snorts adderall

>> No.18977573

>>18973551

BASED AF

Thank you Annon.

>> No.18977619

>>18975637
>Value transfer doesn't happen on Arbitrum. A proxy is created and transferred. I understand the difference is subtle - this is the digital analogy for giving someone a coin or writing them a check. The check is not a value transfer, it's the right to a value transfer. An arbitrum transfer eventually terminates on L1.

You're right that value transfer doesn't happen on Arbitrum. What Arbitrum does is make the transaction far more efficient. Chainlink handles the value transfer from whereever the point of origin of the smart contract maybe (blockchain or some other private entity) to its end point.

>Private computation and execution of a contract is not the same thing as private communication and untraceable currency. Towncrier and Mixicles are every bit as reliant on a private L1 as https is reliant on certificate authorities.

Mixicles and Towncrier's TEE obfuscate sensitive data, medical data, financial instruments and what have you, while providing still providing the output to oracle nodes for delivery. I do recognize the value of privacy coins, as the BTC and ETH are only pseudonymous which makes it possible to trace persons' activity back to them but I don't see how they upstage TEEs and Mixicles in this context.

>Call the space-optimized blockchain L0 if you prefer. The present state of a blockchain is a function of it's tx history. If the high bandwidth main-chain is being well used, we HAVE TO cull the vast majority of transactions and save important snapshots in a separate chain if we're going to maintain the integrity of the ecosystem for decades or centuries into the future without forcing every node to download petabytes of historical data.

Okay, this makes sense and is definitely a big concern into the future. Thank you.

You have a point with the space optimized blockchain, but I feel you're putting too much stock in having all the solutions built into L1. I think that's Link's MO, it's a swiss army knife of solutions in L2.

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Nice thread OP

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>>18973893
I just noticed that the Chainlink cube in that graphic looks exactly like the one Google used in their blog posts & featured graphics.

>> No.18978273

>>18973475
That tweet was fake holy shit cmon OP

>> No.18978375

>>18973166
SHITALIK BTFO HAHAHHAHA

>> No.18978583

>>18973781
>>18973843
Based anons. bless you, be good masters to a late newfag wage slave who will accumulate to 1000 to survive in the world after the change.

>> No.18978590

>>18975188
>>18975198
yeah, he didnt post it
what a surprise
rangeban india, fuck ayre's funded shilling campaign

>> No.18978740

>>18974448
From my understanding, yes, as it is now blockchain agnostic. If in the future ETH is no longer the "computer" LINK is still the "internet" that can connect to whatever "computer" wins out. Think microsoft vs Apple. Both still connect to the internet but people have a preference

>> No.18978743

>>18977914
I just got off the phone with Tyler from Chico Crypto and his long haired chinchilla has escaped again. If you're reading this, keep your eye peeled.

>> No.18978818

>>18978273
Nope

>> No.18978902

This thread is based AF

>> No.18979019

>>18978818
Show me the link then since I've looked through sergey's twitter history a couple of times

>> No.18979115

This is all so tiresome

>> No.18979126

>>18978740
Well, that's incorrect. Link tokens are living on the eth chain only. It's blockchain agnostic in that some contracts will be mirrored on other chains but the real transfer and call will happen on eth. So if eth dies link dies.

>> No.18979419

bump

>> No.18979424

fuck around and create a sentient AI

>> No.18979508

Are you fucking stupid? Those pictures means literally the same.

>> No.18979540

>>18973893
This is what I think a lot of people missed when Sergey was saying no one would trust open API. Everyone wants premium API that they can trust. I really think this was a hint that neet nodes need not apply.

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>>18973166
based op

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if you faggots didnt get it by now you're fucking hopeless

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frens will be frens

>> No.18979632

>>18979540
What he meant by that is that the whole thing needs to be top notch. If you have a well managed node, but use shitty free APIs, then you're not gonna be very reliable most likely since free API providers don't really jave much incentive s to make absolutely sure they are giving you the right data on the right time.

>> No.18979802

Fuck niggers

>> No.18979829

>>18979115
Fuck niggers

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>>18975859
This.
Tezos and Chainlink are both benefiting each other greatly.
I'm accumulating both and feeling comfy af.

>> No.18980143

This is the last time i take advice from you faggots, this better be the decision that makes me rich.

>> No.18980592

bump

>> No.18980762

>>18974468
How does it "feel" being a "faggot"?

>> No.18980771

>>18980074
I agreed, Tezos and Chainlink is god tier

>> No.18981324

>>18980762

Anon, that's a super fucking rude thing to say

>> No.18981374

>>18980762
Like sallty pennies.

>> No.18981546

Uh-oh linky poopies! Going back under the $4 ceiling! 4th industrial revolution is just two years away HODL!

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How much passive income will I make
When I pool my 100k link stake/node service?
Im far too stupid to run a node so I don’t care about fee’s.
Help me daydream anons.

>> No.18981764

Based thread

>> No.18981909

>>18981568
See what percent the pool is paying you and use this https://percentagecalculator.net/

>> No.18981999

>>18975384
>reads the information in this thread
>doesn't believe link can go above $100

Reading is really hard, huh

>> No.18982099

>>18981999
We had a previous discussion last year where the consensus was around 1-10k with a conservative approach.
Does the current information change this to something higher ?
What I find interesting in this document is also the current total value of $ locked in DeFi contracts which was at 1.25B 3 months ago.
Do we have the updated numbers for the last month ?
The number seems to increase at an exponential rate since January.

>> No.18982177

>>18982099
why my pp big

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18982289

Did Sergey manipulate his chart time to make it look good or did he reuse an older powerpoint presentation without updating it ?
He forgot to put the part where the amount of $ locked in contracts crashed by half after the coronavirus...

>> No.18982428

>>18981324
I apologise to all offended faggots.

>> No.18982487

>>18973893
Are the logos on the slides just "fair use" or...?
https://blockonomi.com/thomson-reuters-ethereum-smart-contracts/

>> No.18982555

>>18982487
Note also that M$ and Oracle were just added following recent work. SAP, Salesforce and DocuSign have been sitting there for years and all have lots of crumbs/links.

>> No.18982578

>>18977053
im white bread my friend and have plenty of linkies.

My conservative target is $50-$250 in 1-3 years btw.

>> No.18982644

I've noticed that every time I post a thread it gets thrown on twitter by the linkies over there

I honestly don't care, but if someone on twitter claims they are me, its fake. Twitter is mostly full of the same kind of groupthink cowards I come here explicitly to avoid. I'll never add anything I do to that kind of network.

Not that I blame those that do for doing so. There are probably a ton of good devs that need to know about chainlink and would never brave 4chan because of their sensitive sensitivities. In my mind its all part of the ecosystem, and hats off to them for suffering the milquetoast memes and endless onions of jack's ego fest. The more people that know about chainlink the better.

>> No.18982762

>>18982644
the people i see posting your screencaps are mostly good natured link enthusiasts. have never seen anyone claiming to be an anon from /biz/ screencaps

>> No.18982803

>>18982644
Keep doing you, don't let some jannies get ya down.

>> No.18982909

I just want a place to live. I think we’re gonna make it OP. Thanks for these quality threads.

>> No.18982990

>>18982644
based, aside from 4ch where else do you hang out if you don't mind saying?

>> No.18983085

>>18982990
We all hang out in a quaint village outside Mumbai.

>> No.18983309

>>18982990
Grindr chat.

I'm Big Dom Tom

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>>18979019
>>18978273
>>18973475
https://twitter.com/search?l=&q=http%20from%3ASergeyNazarov&src=typd&lang=en

>> No.18984009
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please dump. i want 200 link

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>>18974418
>>18974537
>and here we are..
>with our cup of coffee priced the fuck in.
Not yet retard

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>>18973166
>>18973600
>>18973655
>>18973688
>>18973777
>>18974511
>>18974999
>>18975055
>>18975188
>>18975655
>>18975699
>>18976099
>>18976222
>>18976466
>>18979588
>>18981999
>>18982099
>>18982177
>>18982555
>>18982644
>>18983500
I've been dozing on and off while reading this epic thread, just stopped by to check em.
What do you think Sergey will announce at consensus? I mean most of this isn't ready for production right?
Wlink is literally any Blockchain anytime

>> No.18984467
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>>18981568
Well staking will have to be decently profitable otherwise node operators wouldn't take the risk of running a node, I'd say 5% p.a absolute bare minimum you would make. Also a pooling service like linkpool would be making a lot more than this because they have more to stake so can run higher value contracts.

If link is $5, your stack is worth $500k, 5% a year of this is 25k. Not bad.
Link at $50 you're making 250k a year. Fucking comfy. This will happen.
I've got 20k link and I'm still comfy af, you can very easily see the numbers yourself in excel

>> No.18984534

>>18973166
God damn it go away no one wants you here

>>18973206
No dude, fuck off from this board and leave forever Ranjeet. You don't belong here.

>> No.18984555
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>>18984388
>>18984388
Checked. I bet he was gonna announce staking since last year's consensus he announced eth mainnet launch. It really feels like they're building up to a big announcement with all the new slides etc but idk if he will want to announce it on a livestream

>> No.18984581

>>18973345
God damn give it a rest no one fucking cares Sergay.

>>18973475
That HTTP tweet was laughable as he looked for a money grab. HTTP was developed for FREE. Token not needed.

>> No.18984615

>>18984467
It won't. Shit can't even crack $5 Prajesh.

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>>18984615
Heard the same thing about 50c newfag
Seethe.

>> No.18984693

>>18984655
I don't give a fuck what you do with your money. I also don't care about your mediocre fucking gains, it's not worth the 1,000,000+ spam posts you dipshits have to do to keep the scam running. You realize that big of a bot program will send your asses to jail? Fuck off and die. I don't give a fuck about your token Pajeet. You an discuss in whatever shithole discord you want, just not here you reddit trash.

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>>18984693
Use the filter if it triggers you that much, turbo brainlet

>> No.18985103

How do OG link marines feel about Idena?

>> No.18985349

>>18984655
>>18984555
Epic digits anons. Who cares about the format of the announcement. Corona chan has changed things significantly and stuff like link will def help assist the transition to an economy with an on off switch

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Also Janjans now ban for posting link memes
> Wearing pants
Fuck Jannies pee pee poo poo

>> No.18985426

>>18982644
based. I do the same. never shill or share on Twitter. anonymous beaver oil swimming board is the best

>> No.18985509

>>18974468
Fucking newfag retard
Its because oracles did not exist’in 2017 that all yout icos failed

>> No.18986078

IDENA IDENA IDENA IDENA

>> No.18986183

>>18982428

That doesn't sound very sincere

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>>18986078
Based

>> No.18986462

>>18979126
That’s not correct at all.

>> No.18986590

>>18979126
Thank you for correcting me, I didn't consider that

>> No.18986850

>>18979126
That's not true anymore. LINK tokens can be minted on another chain and locked on the original (ETH), preserving the total supply & allowing the wrapped LINK tokens to operate on other chains & pay oracle nodes.