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Bullion Dealers

https://www.apmex.com/
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://www.bgasc.com/
https://www.gainesvillecoins.com/
https://www.jmbullion.com/
https://www.providentmetals.com/
https://www.silvertowne.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://www.sprottmoney.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://www.goldenstatemint.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://www.muenze-berlin.de/
https://www.hollandgold.nl/
https://www.europesilverbullion.com/
https://www.celticgold.eu/en/
https://www.muenzeoesterreich.at/eng/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://www.kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://www.mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Open] [Open] [Open] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]
https://www.usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo [Open] [Open] [Open]
Magnets, how do they work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY [Open] [Open] [Open]

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA Silver Bullion TV
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXPvtSNFvh9FJrwN02crJ_A money metals exchange podcast
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver mike maloney's channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClzSFvylrK8ij3KVwrHzjdA As Good As Gold Australia

>> No.18912384

Last thread >>18878858

>> No.18912559
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18912559

Is everyone excited for the next 18 months? I certainly am.

>> No.18912580

>>18912559
Impressive stack

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18912609

Just hit 30 oz this year. Finally got in my 10 oz flag bar. Stacking cash for the time being to hit my LCS for some fractional gold

>> No.18912633

>>18912580

Thanks bruh. Literally just began this whole stacking thing since March this year. Got most of my gold for $ 1,700 USD/oz.

Here's hoping for that bank of America 18-month projection of $ 3,000 USD/oz!

>> No.18912714

I feel bad for American stackers, your currency will never hyperinflate like mine will.

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Accounting question that has to do with precious metals.

So I run a small business selling collectible coin “grab bags,” and this year I’m on track to do about 70k in gross sales but hopefully I can scale past 100k this year. This requires me to buy a LOT of old constitutional silver and gold coins, among other collectibles of course.

Anyway, I’m in college and I really only need about $1200 a month to pay for my rent, utilities, car insurance, groceries, fraternity dues, phone, and live comfortably. But I’m profiting about $2500 a month from this alone.

My idea was to use this excess income to stack more bullion and write it off as me just buying more inventory where I would then just...not send it out and put it in my personal stash.

Would this work? I don’t see how it would be an issue. It’s money I would have anyway.

random thots from my insta for your time

>> No.18912865

>>18912758
I’ll give you $300,000 for 33 1/3%, and a $50 royalty on each grab bag until I’m paid back $600,000. After that the royalty drops to $10 in perpetuity. Take it or leave it

>> No.18912885

>>18912714

USD will kill every other currency, and then, and only then, will gold be able to kill the USD. But yes, USD will be strong until everything goes to shit.

>> No.18912903

>>18912370
Mirin' that Batboi.

>> No.18912918

>>18912758
Where do you find these coins?

>> No.18913012
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>>18912758
Based constitutional silver

>> No.18913021

>>18912758
Those are MEN

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>>18912758
I'm going to need you to explain your business step by step first including your suppliers before I can help

>> No.18913086

>>18912918
>where do you find these coins?
Local dealers sell me whatever they can’t move for pennies on the dollar.

It’s all valuable stuff numismatically, but the dealers just can’t sell it for whatever reason. Then I buy for their breakeven price and include it in a grab bag.

So, a lot of it is foreign silver. I just bought a Troy pound of 1948 Venezuelan Bolivars, for example. .830 silver coins that are worth something numismatically but probably not something you’d pick out in a store.

>> No.18913115

>>18912758
grab bags are scams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgU2v6PPJKM

>> No.18913178

>>18913115
>grab bags are scams
Yeah most of them are, I agree. That’s why I started selling them. I make sure every one has the value you’re paying for, do giveaways/lotteries all the time, and include an itemized bill of everything you get and it’s potential resale value.

I got tired of getting shafted and saw a market for an actually good grab bag. So here we are.

>> No.18913183

First for Formerly Well To Do

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>>18912559
I'm not excited for all the suffering the average person will go through, but I sleep well knowing I'm well prepared for it.

>> No.18913203

>>18913115
Also, silverpicker is a faggot kike. If you want a good numismatic YouTube channel to watch, TreasureTown is /our guy/

>> No.18913230

>>18912714
I hope not. I dont wanna enter a hyperinflation I'd rather just stay cozy spending some cash here and there stacking. But if it ever happens it's nice to know I'm somewhat prepared, or getting there
>>18912559
Gold is stocking back up finally. Premiums have flattened too. I'm pretty stoked

>> No.18913254

>>18912865
Are you serious? I’ll give you my protonmail if you actually are.

>> No.18913301

>>18912758
This wouldn't work because you have to report unsold inventory in your possession on your schedule C, which counts against your expenses/deductions.

This post is satire.

>> No.18913473

>>18913301
Ive only run this since January, I actually did not know that. Thank you cpa anon

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>>18913012
FORMERLY
WELL
TO
DO

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>>18913576

>> No.18913646

>>18913473
I highly advise you to make a FreeTaxUSA account and start playing around like you are entering your taxes for this year.

It's 100x easier if you keep a couple spreadsheets and keep track of things well.

Also home office and transportation deductions are your friends.

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18913668

>gun powder
>ham hocks
>guitar strings

>> No.18913672

>>18913254
Mrwonderful69@protonmail

>> No.18913677

>>18912559
Yes, buying silver at $9 will be epic.

>> No.18913688

>>18913576
I'm going to buy a blowjob every single day that one mercury dime buys one.

>> No.18913707

>>18913646
Much appreciated. Since all of my products come from
>private collections
>dealer overstock
and initially
>buying "that giant jar of coins" everyone has sitting around their house from friends/family by the pound
My inventory at the moment consists of a google sheet of all of my silver, and a multilayered file in my safe noted by coin. It's really hectic and I'm trying to find a better way to organize it now.

>> No.18913725

>>18913672
is this jon. i fucking hate you if it is

>> No.18913757

>>18913725
It just got upped to 40%

>> No.18913758

>>18913707
DESU I don't know how it'll work for you if capital gains are involved due to the coins, I only buy and sell widgets.

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Comfiest /general/ on 4clan

>> No.18913781

>>18913576
Kek. And did you clean that yourself?

>> No.18913787
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>>18913576
>>18913688
Mercs are one of my favorite thing to put in grab bags.

>> No.18913807

>>18913777
>reichsmark
>krugerrand
>trip 7s
Yeah hello based department?

>> No.18913841

>>18912758
Can you actually get anything cool from your bags?

>> No.18913870
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>>18913781
Fuck yeah I did. Check out the quarter I also cleaned.

>> No.18913878

>>18913841
Define cool. Everyone has a different definition of cool but I can at least guarantee you'll get the value you paid for and hopefully a bit more.

>> No.18913891

>>18913870
Nice. Which method did you use?

>> No.18913893

>>18913870
Chuck?

>> No.18913919

>>18913807
It's a proof krug even. JM sent it to me by mistake instead of BU. No complaints

>> No.18913936

>>18913891
I've used boiling water/baking soda with a tin foil lining before. Works good

>> No.18913947
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>>18913891
Baking soda and hot water. The tarnish just wipes away.

>> No.18914048

>>18913199
That's a good attitude.

>> No.18914110

>>18913878
What does your typical grab bag have in it? Is it like a Raffle? Will some have gold coins in it?

>> No.18914113

>>18913936
Do you put the foil on the bottom of the pan so it acts as a lining? Never doe it before but might try with a generic round.

>> No.18914125

>>18913936
>>18913947
Nice that's the method I use as well. Never tried on junk before though.

>> No.18914199

>>18913878
What are your prices and how do we know this is legit? Have reviews?

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18914242

Where the fuck can I buy Mercurys for not ridiculous fucking prices? Jesus fuck, junk silver premiums are high as fuck right now.

>> No.18914303

>>18914113
Yes. The fooil reacts with the baking soda. Line the pan with foil, put some baking some in it, lay coin on baking soda, pour boiling water in, add a tad more baking soda. Then it it cool, can move it around a bit if u want with silverware or something just be careful not to scratch it. Once the water cools a bit, grab the coin and rub the baking soda/water in a bit. You want some nitrile or latex gloves. After rubbing it I dunk it back in the warm water/mixture then I run it under cool water from the faucet. Can repeat as often as you need

>> No.18914365

>>18914303
Cool, thanks fren. Good Stacking To You.

>> No.18914380

>>18913576
My first roll of mercs are in transit. I'm fucking pumped.

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>1966 kennedy half dollar mixed in my change
i own silver lads. i'm actually going to make it

>> No.18914430

>>18914242
what would you consider a decent price nowadays for a roll of mercs?

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>>18913576
>not getting silver Roosevelt dimes
>not getting brojobs from formerly well to do housewives husbands
ngmi lad

>> No.18914574

>>18914548
Fuck FDR tbqh

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>>18914548
I am set on blowjob cash.

>> No.18914724

>>18914199
Well for starters I’m not asking you to buy any, nor do I want to dox myself.

One thing I do to guarantee the value myself is send an itemized, colorized bill with every sleeved coin you’re receiving with every grab bag. It keeps me honest and also helps me keep track of my inventory.

each bag has the following, with the “x” representing the number based on price:
> x proof coins
> x graded, slabbed coins
> x silver coins
> x historic US coins
> x historic world coins
> x banknotes(US + world)
> x assorted coins

Now on its own that would sound quite sketchy and vague. However, I’ve developed a somewhat stringent criteria for each category as follows:
>Proof
Self explanatory. Must be in BU condition and come from the mint as a proof coin. I cross reference the year of minting with official records to make sure said coin actually had proofs that year.

>Graded/slabbed coins
This means the coin itself has been graded and slabbed by a top 3 grading company(PCGS/NGC/ANACS - No INB shit)

>Silver coins
It MUST be at least .650 silver. One coin that keeps getting sold in grab bags is the later Mexican Peso, which is only .100 silver and the rest is brass. That won’t be included.

>Historic US coins
This includes any US coin that is no longer in circulation/production, with the exception of wheat cents. It technically includes old US silver, but that would fall under the more exclusive Silver category since it’s 90%. This is where I include pennies, nickels, 2/3 cent pieces, et cetera. And since wheat pennies are so cheap I don’t include them in this category.

>historic world coins
Same as the last definition, but for foreign coins. I set a cut-off date of 1960 for it to count as “historic.” Any modern trash later won’t be included.

>banknotes
Self explanatory. A personal favorite of mine are Silver certificates.

>Assorted coins
Poundage. Anything I find interesting that wouldn’t fit in another category.

Cont

>> No.18914749

>>18914720
Ahhh, rosies, you're going to have to pay twice as much.

>> No.18914769

>>18914724
So for example - say you have a 1938 Jefferson nickel. It might be old, but it’s the exact same composition as a currently circulating nickel. It’s worth five cents. I’ll never include that in a grab bag.

To take it a step further - a Jefferson war nickel, which is 40% silver and not the same composition of a nickel still in circulation - would fit the criteria for “US historic”, but would fall short of the “silver coin” category due to its low silver content.

Hope all of that makes sense

>> No.18914810

>>18914769
And who the hell is buying these?

>> No.18914894

>>18914810
My fb demographics say 90% males aged 25-75, mainly from 25-45 and 55-75. 95% in the US or Canada, and generally somewhat wealthy.

>> No.18914930

>>18912370

Why are you all buying precious metals and not crypto coins?

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>>18914930
I buy both. Digimon coins for getting rich, boomer rocks for pleasure.

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>>18912822
>>18912908
As promised. Short guide on Dutch currency.

Brief history:

There are three distinct eras that define our national coinage history: Provincial era (1680 - 1806), Napoleon era (1806 - 1813), and Kingdom era (1813 - now).
Before Napoleon, the Netherlands existed as The United Netherlands, consisting of 7 different provinces. Each of these provinces were responsible for minting national currency. These featured a shield with a lion and on the other side Pallas Athena with a bible.
Napoleon standardized our money and put his own face on our coins, instead of Athena.
As soon as our kingdom was independent, our own king was minted on coins, but overall the same or similar standards were used that Napoleon introduced.

Then we had three kings. Willem 1 (1813 - 1840), Willem 2 (1840 - 1849) and Willem 3 (1849 - 1890). Besides their face being minted on coins, each of them introduced small adjustments to our currency to better suit our economy. A Willem coin is significantly more valuable due to historic value, with Willem 1 coins going for 1000s of euros on the market today. Willem 2 and 3 coins are also more expensive than successive coins, but in the order of 10's of euros, far more affordable.
After our kings we had three queens.
Wilhelmina (1890 - 1948), Juliana (1948 - 1980), and Beatrix (1980 - 2013).
Under Wilhelmina, silver money was still standard. Notably, she got crowned at 11 years old, and 4 different coins of her were minted according to her age, from childhood, to adolescence, to adulthood, to aged.
Under Juliana, silver was gradually replaced with nickel, and by the late 60's no more silver coins were produced. From the 70's onward however, silver was reintroduced on commemorative coins, and they were legal tender, and therefor minted in fairly high quantities.

>> No.18915011

>>18914930
Crypto is a gamble and has very little historical precedent as a store of wealth compared to PMs. I'm gonna dabble in crypto but only when I get a decent PM stack first

>> No.18915020

>>18914999
All of the above mentioned generations of coins have resulted in an abundance in Dutch silver coins, with interesting options for stacking as well as collecting. Many sellers offer bags of coins per kilo or a set amount, and some have 100's of kilos of old silver Guldens in stock.

However, only specific coins are interesting for their silver content, due to frequent adjustments to our different coins. For example, our 5c only had 64% silver, but were replaced with nickel before 1900. Therefor I will not list similar cases that are not of monetary interest for people looking to add Dutch silver to their stack. That said, these are our best options:

>50 cent, or 0.5 Gulden
Provincial: 30mm, 5 gram, 91%
Napoleon: 24 mm, 5 gram, 91%
Willem 1: 24mm, 5.4 gram, 89%
Willem 2, 3: 22mm, 5 gram, 94.5%
Wilhelmina (til 1930): 22mm, 5 gram, 72%.

>1 Gulden
Provincial: 30mm, 10.6 gram, 92%
Napoleon: 30mm, 10.5 gram, 91%
Willem 1, 2, 3: 30mm, 10.8 gram, 89%
Wilhelmina: 30mm, 10.8 gram, 72%
Juliana (til 1967): 25mm, 6.5 gram, 72%
Beatrix, 2001: 25mm, 7.1 gram, 92.5%.

>2.5 Gulden, or 'Rijksdaalder'
Willem 1, 2, 3: 38mm, 25 gram, 94.5%
Wilhelmina: 38mm, 25 gram, 72%
Juliana, til 1969: 33mm, 15 gram, 72%

>10 Gulden
Juliana: 38mm, 25 gram, 72%
Beatrix, 1994: 33mm, 15 gram, 72%
Beatrix, 1995 - 1999: 33mm, 15 gram, 80%.

>50 Gulden
Beatrix: 38mm, 25 gram, 92.5%

>Dukaat
Willem 1: 38.5mm, 28.1 gram, 86.8%
Beatrix (1989 - current year): 40mm, 28.25 gram, 87.3%

The coins listed above are especially abundant from Wilhelmina and on. Previous editions have a higher collectable value and be more expensive.
My stacking coins of choice is the 50 Gulden piece, but good options are also the 1 Gulden or the 2.5 Gulden, they will typically be sold by the kilo.

>> No.18915021

>>18914930
>>18914961
You gotta hedge you zoomer coins with boomer coins anon.

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>>18914999
Was just looking at one of those

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Anyone else want to get one of these and stick it in your ass? I have a huge urge.

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>>18915084
Cool, I have all silver sets I want. If I want to stack more, I'll get more 50's. But first on my wishlist is a full set of golden 10 Wilhelmina's.

>> No.18915269

>>18915171
Nice. That one I just posted is about to go out the door in a grab bag though. I got it in a bulk foreign silver sale, I was shocked at how good the condition was

>> No.18915374

>>18915269
Yeah, because we had silver money all through the 20st century (and still), we have huge amounts of good quality silver coins for low prices, due to introduction of the euro. But these are just leftovers. Ducats are still being minted every year, but they're not financially attractive at all. They're being released in low quantities at jew prices. I have a full set for 30 yuro a piece. I had to.

>> No.18915405

>>18914110
Yes I do lotteries all the time. I just gave away a PCGS MS 63 1878 Morgan in a $100 grab bag. That alone is a $500 coin.

>> No.18915415

>>18915374
The 1 ducats are not at a terrible premium over spot price for being around 1/10th Oz of gold.

>> No.18915436

>>18915415
Gold is a different story, but 30 euro for a silver ducat is a bit overpriced.

>> No.18915472

>>18915405
What about gold?

>> No.18915516

>>18912758
If you're going to do this form a C-Corp.
Reason being you can sell C-Corp stock after you've owned it for 5 years, with no federal capital gains tax, for up to $10m per shareholder.
So you can stack gold and silver in your c-corp tax free as inventory purchases, then just sell the company in 5 years for the value of the gold and silver. Unless you have more than $10m stacked, which is a high class problem.

>> No.18915668

Why do my balls always get a musty stench after not showering for a week?

>> No.18915678

>>18915668
That's a man's true essence

>> No.18915750

>>18915678
How can I profit off of this?

>> No.18915756

>>18915124
Not even a little bit, anon. Just you.

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It's amazing how early us silver Chads are. I was able to accumulate all this on minimum wage. How fucking early is that??

>> No.18915799

>>18915472
I haven't done any with gold yet. I do plan on it in the future yet, it's just too expensive at the moment.

The "top-level" grab bag is only $100, to give you an idea. I do plan on giving away an older american $1 gold piece in the near future though.

>> No.18915815

>>18915750
Store a penny under your sack for a day.
Then give it to a girl you like. She will not be able to resist a chance to sniff your essence from up close.

>> No.18915822

>>18914720
>not merc dimes

you won't find someone to even spit on you for a hand full of those

>> No.18915823

>>18915668
Based and swampy pilled

>> No.18915852

>>18913677
paper silver*
ftfy

>> No.18915923

>>18915822
Why not?? They are the same silver content as the mercury dimes.

>> No.18915962

>>18915923
Because the meme is merc dime for a bj and Kennedy half dollar for a double teen foot job

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Heading to a place to dig tomorrow boys! Time to go get started on those ounces this season!

>> No.18916007

>>18915985
Good luck pan man, you're my personal hero.

>> No.18916029

>>18915985
No linker!

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18916071

I remember when people would make gold or silver threads and nobody fucking cared, couldn't even keep a thread alive. Proud of you guys

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>>18915962
I accept.
I have never been more prepared for something in my life.

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18916338

>>18912370
First for Platinum to the moon

>> No.18916367

>>18916317
The actual meme is that anons here will be the ones giving out blow jobs for those prices, not receiving them.

>> No.18916401

>>18912609
>30 oz this year.
I'm only at 14.5 not including the "Junk" silver.

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>>18914999
Checked

Where do you buy your Dutch coins anon?

>> No.18916445

>>18915769
The market has been at about between 15.21 - 15.42 the last 40 days. Its onky within the last 3 days the market dropped below $15.00.

I bought a hand full a few years ago in 2015 when silver was very low.

>> No.18916451
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>>18915171
Gold is pretty expensive now though

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How has Atlantis Mint not brought down the cost of their production for 1/2 oz. silver when the entire world is selling minted 1 oz. less than what they're charging?

They've always considered art like collectables, but maybe they shouldn't be.

I find 1/2 oz. useful, but not when the cost is more than the regular market price.

>> No.18916632

5k£ to invest what should au/ag/£ ratio be

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>>18916367
I see.

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>>18916426
Do you think it's gonna be better?
Finding good reliable traders is part of the fun anon. But I have one in Amsterdam and one in Gelderland.

>> No.18916665
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No batbois yet, but never been a better time to be a physical owner!
How are all my fellow Scrooges?

>> No.18916684

>>18916665
I really hope you have a safe to put that in and a place to hide the safe.

>> No.18916698
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>>18916071
It's really the incoming zeitgeist, more and more ppl, even few normans, are getting in PM while the kike economy defiance is now absolute. Even the central bankers, who are the palladins of this talmudic show now are telling everything is crumbling down under our very eyes. I compiled few citations from the ex-heads of central banks from 2018-2020 and it's more bullish for PMs than 99% of the goldbugs here even DARE to imagine. We are the canaries in the coal mine.
Well, to be totally honest the shitcoins stackers were the first telling sign, but sadly for them they bet on the wrong horse, simply because cryptos are not a store of value.
It's a self defense mechanism, we feel it down our guts, this whole clown shitshow is about to implode, it's not a matter of years but months before it happen, and we will be on the top of the pile of ashe with our gold & silver stacks.

I'm now convinced the future will be a mix of old & new economic system : the crypto technology and the real wealth provided by the only millenias old store of value, ie a PM backed 1to1 cryptomoney.
Goldcoin for the big purchases, backed by 600M oz of gold, reevaluated at $20,000 per oz for a $12 Trillions marketcap worldwide.
Silvercoin for the day-to-day purchases, backed by 900M oz of silver, reevaluated at $1,500 per oz for a $1.35 Trillion marketcap worldwide.

The only way for a strong, equitable and solid monetary system, where you can't dilute the value of money, quite the contrary actually, a strong economy will make an even stronger money to back it up.
Restore confidence. Restore faith in humanity.
Gas the kikes.
Gold and silver standard.

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>>18916698
You know what I realised that tore me up quite a lot? If I just bought an ounce of gold every time I had the cash since the year 2000 I would be able to own a house outright by now with no debt and maybe even close to being able to retire. That's fucking crazy, all that time worrying about stocks and high interest bank accounts and yields and whatnot and I could have just done the simplest, bone headed thing and bought an ounce of shiny every now and then without worrying about its short term price movement. I could've bought something methodically and periodically with zero risk of ever going to zero and made out like a bandit in real terms.

I won't make that mistake again.

>> No.18916888

>>18916665
Mirin your morgans.

>> No.18916948

>>18916684
Indeed, the contents of my bin are normally kept inside a Winchester safe with my firearms and re-inventoried every couple months to keep up with modern prices. It’s a mixture of bullion (mainly gold with a healthy amount of silver), vintage, and rare error coins.

There’s also a ton of shit I still need to get graded...

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>>18916426
Chinese and mexican coins look so fuckin cool, very nice stack anon.

My stack in OP, very happy to see no flames down here lol

>> No.18917089

Has anyone thought about smelting copper? Its not really valuable.

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Should I go for it?

>> No.18917145

>>18915985
Are you not afraid of other rogue pan men killing you at your spot to steal your shiny rocks and burying your body somewhere or something?

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>>18916698
Now THIS is cooming

>> No.18917160

>>18916807
All the ((bankers)) telling us that geld is for idiots who don't trust the system willing to accept low returns. Meanwhile charts have shown gold outperforms Dow Jones and S&P 500 over the time span of decades

>> No.18917175

>>18917103
Scottsdale Kilos have better premiums than Kings last I checked. Possibly easier to liquidate too

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>>18917103
Try to get a 'coin bar' if you can instead, it's your average 100oz (or bigger) bar with a coin stamped on it. It's VAT free when you purchase it since it's considered legal tender, and exempt of taxes gains in most countries when you sell it.

Pic related is a ""$50 coin"" 15kg (480oz) bar i recently purchased, VAT free, which would have added an extra 20% to my bill if it wasn't stamped. So this is a pretty big deal.

>> No.18917266

>>18917229
I want to be able to build my basement out of ingots like that...

>> No.18917285

>>18917145
nah, I am PAN MAN. The wilderness is my home, and I know almost all the other miners in my region. Were all friends for the most part.

>> No.18917289

>>18915962
>Kennedy half dollar for a double teen foot job
Even the 40%ers?

>> No.18917345

>>18916684
Everyone knows the sock drawer for metals is safer than a safe. Someone can open my safe. Aint shit in it.

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What's y'all niggas opinion on Benjies?

>> No.18917454

>>18917285
>for the most part
elaborate

>> No.18917460

>>18916665
How much do you weigh there?

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Rate my stack /biz/
Looking to get more gold because I definitely think it is more stable and fundamentals are stronger, but I love the look and feel of silver. Definitely going to keep stacking both though

>> No.18917533

>>18917430
They’re beautiful coins, but as far as PMs go, they’re not worth a whole lot.
If you want value from “Benjis”, you can try for a complete collection by date or mint mark (relatively still attainable with a decent amount of money)
If value in the long run is what you seek, I’d recommend going for good ol fashioned Morgans, as certain coins are worth good bucks (~$500 for a rare Morgan vs ~$60 for a rare Benji)

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Am I going to make it Anons?

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>>18916665

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Ok guys so i did a purchase on mcm with tracked shipping delivered against signature, but the lazynigger mailman simply put it in my mailbox without asking me to sign anything, or even check if i was at home (i was ofc bcuz lockdown).
How do i profit from this? I want to fuck with the postal company. It was a 300 bux purchase so it would be a really big deal for a poorfag like me if i could get it for free. But i don't want to penalize the seller in any way.
Should i mark the package as arrived on mcm, so the seller get his money, then fill a complain on the postal service website? Or could it mess up with my scheme?

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>>18915985
I can't remember if I showed you the silver nugget I found that came from ore like that. Probably did.

when I found it I thought it was an aluminum can melted in a campfire around some turquoise colored chewing gum or rubber or something. Got it home and looked a bit more closely and it was native silver with copper oxides.

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>>18917511
I'm sorry I had to rotate these it was stressing me out

>> No.18917584

Hey Anons, I got a couple dozens uncirculated bat bois quarters, how much can I sell them for?

>> No.18917594

>>18917511
Love the spider coin. I like spiders.

>>18917575
Thank you for your service

>> No.18917645

>>18917584
you can sell for (.25(a couple dozen))

>> No.18917652

>>18917552
listen here, nigger

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Is it worth to pay 75 eyro extra to have a gold coin in FDC instead of EF/XF
I'm thinking yes

>> No.18917681

>>18917652
You don't get it, getting 300 bux for free is half the appeal to me. The other half is scamming the postal jew, these faggots lost (or stole) so many packages from me, yet never faced any repercussion. And when this happen you have no way to defend yourself.
Now the pendulum is swinging back, and it will be an enormous satisfaction to get them pay for my hobby.
I don't ask you to be my moral compass, I AM scamming them, the decision have alrdy been made, i ask you how should i proceed so the seller is not harmed in the process, i don't want this poor soul to get punished.

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Anyone plan on getting the niggerball coins from the US mint this year? Im going to get all styles of gold and silver.

>> No.18917705

>>18917575
Thx bro. Just switched to an iPhone and can’t do shit on it. Saved your version. >>18917594
Me too man. Preciate it

>> No.18917721

>>18917685
I wouldn’t pick that up off the street

>> No.18917737

>>18917685
This is some next level ugly nigger shit right there, i wouldn't even purchase it if it was sold below spot.

>> No.18917806

>>18917584
Lemme just crunch those numbers real quick in conflation. Ahhhhhh I see after 1964 US coins are made of cheap bimetal, hold on lemme get my expert on cheap bimetal coinage .....Yah looks like the best I can do is .25

>> No.18917848

>>18917430
I want some but refuse to pay the crazy premiums on junk right now

>> No.18917973

>>18917454
I ve had... disagreements resulting physical violence over the years. You snap up a claim not knowing who it belonged to and they send dudes to... recover it.

There have also been several times where I ve encountered claim jumpers, serious illegal mining activity, not sluice boxes and shovels mind you, who don't take kindly to people snooping about.

Also criminal gangs have all sorts of fingers in my line of work, mostly using placer mining to launder money from illegal activities. Lots of Hells Angels involvement specifically.

>> No.18917996

>>18917556
well isnt that neat! I ve seen a few silver nuggets while working in places like Sheep Creek, Salmo and Ymir but they were all really small.

>> No.18918091

>>18917552
Don’t be a fucking parasite on productive society

>> No.18918143

>>18917540
Clever

>> No.18918316

>>18916698
OK so in this reset, how much would 20,000 be relative to 20,000 in today's currency.

>> No.18918418

Let's say I'm a poor person. If I buy one 1oz gold American eagle coin will I be set in 20 years

>> No.18918453

>>18918316
The neogoldollar would have the purchasing power of an USD from 1990.
The dollar in it's current form will be worth approx as much as the zimbabweian one by then.

>> No.18918498

>>18918418
Buy silver if you are poor. It feel so good to have a load of metal for the same price.
Also ppl tend to disregard how rare is silver because of it's price, but the average ppmt (concentration per metric ton of dirt) of silver in the earth crust is 0.075gr.
You'd need to extract 414 TONS of dirt to scrap together one single oz of silver. It's that rare.

>> No.18918632

>>18918498
I'd rather have less space being taken up actually. I live in a shoebox apartment. Plus gold seems like a safer bet than silver.

>> No.18918653

>>18918453
Why 1990?

>> No.18918755

I unironically was exposed to precious metals via Pawn Stars with this guy's 3000oz stack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdw5Dvb-XBk

>> No.18918887

>>18918632
>I'd rather have less space being taken up actually
Are you trolling or something? 1500 bux worth of silver can fit in your fucking pockets.

>> No.18918916

>>18918755
This Chad bought at bottom and sold the top to the talmudvision jew. I hope he bought back his stack for a third of the price after a while and is now ready to ride the ultimate PM bullrun.

>> No.18918919

Alright goyims I'm about to throw some money at gold

>> No.18918935

>>18916632
If I were you: 1 ounce gold, 10 ounces silver brittanias, rest in cash.

>> No.18918958
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18918958

just got a JM Bullion "Buy Gold & Silver Bullion Online" advertisement on the Brave browser

is this bullish?

>> No.18918959

>The more I understand gold and silver the more I want to buy to save my wealth
>The more I get into stacking the more numismatic meme shit I want to buy at high premiums because they look cool
I may need to find a side job to fuel my raging addiction.

>> No.18919043

>>18918959
I'm nervous for bitcoin to skyrocket. My wishlist is far from complete

>> No.18919202

>>18917575
That 10 oz. prospector bullion is sexy AF!

>>18917721
>>18917737
Kek. Agreed.

>> No.18919259

>>18917973
> Physical Disagreements
>Claim jumpers
>Money laundering
Holy shit Pan Man, honestly want to hear more. My friend worked construction in NV back in the day and said the company would pay their payroll all in silver. There was a tax loop hole that if you paid in precious metals, you didn't have to pay as much tax. So payroll was at a compound where they picked up an envelope of bullion at one window, stepped to the next window and exchanged it for cash. They used the same metal over and over and over. What sort of things have you heard or seen?

>> No.18919354

>>18916684
Safes are only good as a decoy. Case in point: gronk got robbed during the superbowl and they loaded up like 3 massive gun safes into pickup trucks and drove off

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As a single grad student with no kids, and no debt, do I stop buying PMs and start accumulating cash?
>t. 150 tozAg, 0.57 tozAu

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>>18918919
Should arrive next week

>> No.18919438

>>18919360
>single grad student with no kids and no debt
I'm in the same exact boat as you right now. I wouldn't be accumulating cash right now, focus on longer term investments (PMs included). Once you graduate presumably you will be making a lot more money, and raising cash for a big purchase will be a lot easier in the short term.

>t. 250 oz silver, 3 oz gold

>> No.18919445

>>18919360
If you don't have any cash, I would advise you get a small safety fund going. Otherwise you may find yourself in a pinch for money and will have to sell your metals at whatever spot is at that time. You don't want to be forced into liquidating at a price you don't want to sell at.

>> No.18919748

>>18918653
because that's when his favorite videogames were released

>> No.18919789

>>18919259
I have to be fucking careful with what I say, but basically a ton of mid tier exploration firms are all fraudulent front companies for organized crime groups in Canada and from China. They buy up garbage mineral claims, explore them taking on massive losses to "investors" who are just members of the same group buying things on credit or prepaid cards. The exploration firm than sells the property to the next company for cash, than folds the first company. I don't know all the details but they launder a huge amount of money this way.

The Hells Angels racket is simple. You go to them to fund a project, they will pay fuel costs, pay for permits through shell companies and provide man power and security in exchange for any and all gold recovered being sold to them. If you check out, than you can make a lot of money working with them. They use this again to launder cash from drugs and people / weapons smuggling. They also used to send men into the gold camps twice a season to buy gold directly from miners at 125% over spot price, I have no idea why they were doing that, but it was always cash.

I am a bit busy but shit goes way deeper.

>> No.18919844

>>18916698
What the fuck is the point of two different cryptocurrencies for big and small purchases? You could just make one crypto pegged to gold and be done with it.

>> No.18919883

>>18916698
>Silvercoin
three syllables don't roll off the tongue as well as two: "doll-ar", "bit-coin", "gold-coin"

>> No.18919940

>>18919883
dollar is based on thaler, name of an old silver mine. look it up hombre. silver = money

>> No.18919944

>>18917540
What in the holy fuck

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>>18919407
Based

>> No.18920110

>>18919789
Holy shit! That's really interesting to me. It indulges my Breaking Bad/Saul Goodman intrigue. This sounds like great material for a show on basic cable.

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>>18916542

I bought a hundred half ounce rounds back in early March from JM bullion for about a buck over spot.

Sunshine mints. I wanted an easy to trade denomination in the event of a boogaloo. All in all pretty great site.

>> No.18920138

>>18917552
Jeeze these roasties really do get off to an early start with whoring

>> No.18920164

>>18912885
> people only shop online
> gold

gold is a savings not checking

>> No.18920298

>>18920110
o man the shit that happens out here would make great TV. Lots of random bullshit fist fights over stolen gear, usual bullshit. Random disappearances / abductions. The people I run into while prospecting or just camping are crazy too. Last summer I had the following encounter that made me both kek and nope out.

>Be PAN MAN
>driving my Toyota hi-lux up a shitty logging road on Yanks Peak to do some sniping
>stop because a full size winnebago is coming down in front of me
>wtf.png
>drive into the side bush to let this thing pass
>dude driving stops and starts rolling down his window, wants a chat
>look up to see a 30 something chinese male in full make up, blond wig, heavy fur hooded parka and fur hat
>buddy looks like a living anime character
>wat.me
>dude asks me if this is the road to Likely BC
>still stunned I tell him yes it is but its for off road vehicles
>tell him to go back to the main road and keep going left
>dude sighs in a really forced female way, pulls his jacket closer
>I am getting really fucking weird vibes from this guy and start looking more around the interior of the cab
>dudes got a defender shotgun and handgun on the other seat, and two other wigs and masks.
>quickly fuck off up the road, take a hard side road and nope out of there
>dude got arrested the next day trying to break into someones house in Likely.

>> No.18920342

>>18920298
>dude asks me if this is the road to Likely BC
Missed opportunity, you should've told him "not likely."

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>>18916665

don't buy batboi. In a couple of month you'll understand how biting at every single meme is not a good strategy. if you search collectable value coins look into the silver shield mini mintage or something like that. not necessarly political but get some coins that aknowledge the moral paradigme of our era.

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Loving how fast the premiums shot up on pre-33 us coins. Already up over $600 each on these, but no way I would sell yet. My question is why weren't you people buying for the past 5-6+ years? I bought most of mine down in the $1200s and it's been a fun ride the last year or two

>> No.18920393

>>18920342
a few other dudes working on a logging site ran into the same dude trying to get his winnebago out of a muddy rut. They all collectively called it the "bush weeb"

>> No.18920418

>>18920298
I'm just starting into the amateur prospecting hobby, but the mining side of the precious metals industry is absolutely fascinating to me. It really does feel like the spirit of "the wild west" is alive and well in prospecting today. All the characters and stories are amazing.

>> No.18920499

>>18920418
it very much is still alive and kicking. Every year there are new people appearing on the creeks, usually some young guy and his wife, maybe their kids setting up with a camper with an excavator testing some ground. Lots of very elderly people whos families have held claims for a century, they are almost revered by everyone. And than every year, you get the crew of meth heads who drive around with cutting torches stealing all the random abandoned junk to sell.

Gold brings the best and worst characters.

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>>18919445
I've been keeping about 3k back. I had more but used it last year to unfuck a bunch of dental work from my teens that must have been done by the last guy in his dental school class.

Shit I'm not even looking to make a lot of money, but while I don't have a family to pay for I'd at least like to be paid better than a grad student for a couple of years, you know?

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>>18915985
Based Pan Man.
>>18916542
The lights are on but nobody is home. Atlantis was a ghost mint before corona even hit.
>>18916698
oldfags who made it off btc and eth always used to warn others to cashout a portion into gold and silver.

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>>18914930

Because precious metals are a commodity, not a currency. Other than being used in jewelry or art they have industrial use in electronics. They can also be stored and secured physically.

What benefits does crypto have?

It's supposed to be a currency, yet people speculate on the price as if it's a commodity.
New ones are created every day claiming to be "the next Bitcoin" which just means "new pump-and-dump scam".
It can be stolen by malware, of become worthless if there's a fork.
You can't spend it anywhere, and it's difficult to cash out to a fiat currency.

Bitcoin is the most popular, yet there's still no use for it. Buyers of crypto just want other idiots to purchase it so they can cash out.
It's like they're trapped in a Multi-level marketing scam, and some have even been associated with MLM scams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqvvaJRSlvc

>> No.18920841

>>18919407
I wish my money said cresCUNT on it.

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>>18920843

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>>18920851

>> No.18920926
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>>18920867

>> No.18920957

>>18914999
Thanks for the breakdown.

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>>18920771
>That video
Man I love Nick and I hope he's around for a long time, but I'll never get tired of laughing at his suffering.

>> No.18920991

50oz silver bullion and some small denominations of gold here. Thinking of buying 1oz of gold, should I do it anons? Is now the right time?

>> No.18921049

>>18920739
>The lights are on but nobody is home. Atlantis was a ghost mint before corona even hit.
Ok, but I've been watching their product since 2016 & the spot price hasn't really moved much for them. I think they're just a novelty, but it does look good. I understand what you're saying though. Atlantis Mint rushed into purchasing silver & have to ensure their margins are all there - few people working there.
>>18920116
I'll check them out anon. Thanks.

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>>18920991
yes go with gold

>> No.18921128

>>18915020
Do you have any Dutch coinshops you can recommend? I see that I need more guldens in my life.

>> No.18921137

>>18915171
Wilhelmina a cute

>> No.18921149
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>>18920926
>>18920867

>> No.18921191

>>18917430
the best of the half dollars

>> No.18921227

>>18919940
I love how in french money and silver are the same word (Argent, from the latin word Argentum), speak volumes about what real money always have been and always will be.

>> No.18921322
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>>18921191
i disagree
>a benjamin never bought anybody

>> No.18921335
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18921335

>>18920843
>>18920851
>>18920867
Everones gonna miss out on the chainlink of Precious metals over here

>> No.18921350

>>18920843
Cringe. You know your ugly metal sucks when you need 10 long ass infographics to explain the worth that is already self evident in gold.

>> No.18921394

>>18920771
the retard grruug laughing non stop like a pinguin make the vid impossible to watch sadly

>> No.18921400
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>>18921350
>he doesn't know the pledians in Alderbaran use platinum as the primary trading metal

>> No.18921499

>>18921335
buddy i am looking for platinum properties as fast as i can.

>> No.18921512

>>18915769
I aspire to have a stack like this.

>> No.18921625
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>>18921499
Good luck in the states. Everything is in russia or south afrika. u might find some others in the same space metals group like iridium but there isn't going to be deposits bigger than my tiny backyard. LMK if you do find anything in montana or pacific northwest dough

>> No.18921632

>>18920843
>>18920851
>>18920867
plat is a fucking scam, literally the embarassing retarded cousin of the PM family

>> No.18921734

>>18913677
Even if this happens it'll still hit 50 + in the next 10 years

>> No.18921868
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18921868

Just added these to my collection. Proofs are awesome.

>> No.18921908

>>18921625
I know there was a really odd vanadium / rhodium property located than abandoned due to issues with native land claims by the very bleeding edge of the BC / Alaska border that I am looking at magnetic anomaly maps of. If There were crazy platinum and other rare earth counts in soil samples located 2 km from the first discovery, there may be more but it would cost a ton to go have a look myself.

>> No.18922581
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Sometimes you just have to play with your silver

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>>18922701
Id love one of these

>> No.18922879

>>18919360
>income
>10% into Longtime Emergency Reserve (1-10 yrs worth)
>10% into Shorttime Emergency Reserve (1-12 months worth)
>10% into Investment Fund (goal: selfsustainment, let that be agriculture-industry-military triangle village or basic passive income)
>10% into Alternate Investment Fund (btc, pm, weapons, ammo, foodstockpile)

>> No.18922938

>>18922701
>>18922725
Looks like fake "fine german silver" nickle bars plated in silver

>> No.18922941
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18922941

Bought this for +2% over spot.

>> No.18922948

>>18922701
10 bucks on Alibaba?

>> No.18922959

>>18916657
Don't know if the gold price will go down the coming weeks. I think we are entering a recession right now, many retail and horeca are close to bankruptcy

>> No.18923011

>>18916426
99% of fatman dollars are fake. You got scammed anon.

>> No.18923012
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18923012

>>18920359
but but they are prettay

>> No.18923025
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18923025

>>18920867

>> No.18923149

>>18920359
Batboi's are more interesting because they are a funny coincidence (probably).
From what I saw of silver shield releases a couple years ago they tried way too hard to be edgy (weed leaf, Trump skeleton, ect.) Pretty lame desu

>> No.18923161

>>18923011
Then my grandpa got scammed 40/50 years ago, well at least the 'fakes' also have numismatic value now

>> No.18923201

>>18916426
what are those ching -chong looking coins?

>> No.18923241

>>18923161
Well if it was from that long ago then they might be real. I’d get them graded to see if they’re legit or not, you can get a major payday if real.

>> No.18923248

>>18917540
Cornering the market in batbois

>> No.18923308

>>18923201
Chinese silver dragon, 1 dollar Sun Yat-Sen and 1 dollar Yuan Shikai

>> No.18923363

>>18923308
I take it they are rare and expensive? Did Japan or any other asian country besides Korea and Bhutan make their own silver?

>> No.18923383
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Lots of details on this beauty

>> No.18923394
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>>18923383

>> No.18923419
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>>18921322
Not enough cleavage

>> No.18923555

>>18920388
Because some of us were financially irresponsible while the prices were that low :(

>> No.18923651

>>18923555
Platinum is low.

>> No.18923804

>>18923651
Unironically I finally copped some plat. I been talking about how I've been on the fence in these threads for a little while.

>> No.18923818

Give it to me straight lads, how fucked is our fiat currency.
I dont see how its possible for the FED to throw around this unfathomable amount of currency and not fuck our nation into oblivion. But anytime I even try to discuss it in real life people just seethe at me

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>>18923818
Seems like americans are the frog in the pot of water that started off warm and will come to a boil. Will be way too late for them to do anything about it by the time they realize how bad shit really is. Maybe not though, maybe all the money printing will carry us past this whole shit show. Nobody really knows, but the most level headed opinions that I've heard about this seem to think that we will have a guaranteed economic recession - but the severity and duration are the unknowns. I've watched a few late 2019 videos where they were projecting a 2020 recession - and that was without corona shut down entire industries for months on end.

tl;dr nobody fuckin knows

>> No.18923996

>>18923651
Why would the value of platinum increase over time?

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>> No.18924450
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18924450

So I checked this thread for the keywords “debt”, “paper”, “clock”. I wanted to see how pic related would become the new spot price. So you mean to tell me that there are over $2,500 for every ounce of silver, and that if the spot prices reflected this, my stack of roughly 450 oz would be worth over a million usd? Wouldn’t that just mean that bread would then cost like $150? Please someone explain this.

>> No.18924509

>>18921128
To find shops that sell Guldens, google "Dutch silver money" and you will see many results that offer kilo bags, and will also take you to shops that specialize in Dutch coins.

Be advised to always google for reviews for a shop. I almost got scammed if I hadn't looked up peoples experiences with a seller in Rotterdam. Quite a lot of fraud goes on in this market.

Dutch speakers can google "Nederlands zilvergeld" and go from there. You should see options for kilo bags right away and if you look in the right places you can buy specific coins in bulk.
I can't recommend a single shop, there's many out there and it comes down to which one has your preference. And for me part of the fun was finding trusted and reliable specialists.

>> No.18924526

>>18922959
Good news we can reopen soon. Yes losses are severe but it means we can go into recovery.

>> No.18924531

>>18924450
Price of silver eoy.

>> No.18924540

>>18923996
Platinum is the most powerfull catalyst there is. Hydrogen revolution will make platinum the most expensive metal on Earth.

>> No.18924544

>>18924450
>Wouldn’t that just mean that bread would then cost like $150

No, you are talking about the supply of dollars to physical silver. Essentially without the fake and gay paper market the real price of silver should reflect an ounce of silver being worth 2500 dollars at current demand.

If paper silver was to collapse and silver to be valued at its actual amount bread would remain the same (barring hyperinflation) that said If there was hyperinflation you could see bread at 150$ but your hourly wage would then be something like 900$ an hour. If we go back to a PM based system the average daily pay would be 1/10 an ounce of silver and bread and other goods would reflect this. Essentially bread is about 1/10 an hour of your average workers wage and will always remain so barring some sort of massive supply shortage.

Hope this helps. I base this purely on autistic conjecture

>> No.18924552

>>18922959
Whats a horeca?

>> No.18924582

>>18917996
>I ve seen a few silver nuggets while working in places like Sheep Creek, Salmo and Ymir but they were all really small.
This one's the size of my thumb, from the Leadville district. It was just sitting on a gravel bar in a creek below a major grouping of silver/copper mines.

there is an account of a lost silver mine near where I found the nugget, but it's worn enough I figure it probably came from one of the mines much higher up the mountain. I still search the area every summer though, just in case I find where it came from.

>> No.18924609

>>18924582
Do you think it has any lead in it?

>> No.18924690

>>18924544
Chegged
So you’re telling me that if I want bread to stay the same price and the spot price of silver to represent the dollar to metal ratio, I or someone else has to put 2 in the back of paper silver’s head? I wonder, how can we kill this paper silver man? Honestly, how can we spot the world to literally refuse paper contracts?
>>18924531
Please no

>> No.18924710

>>18924690
Spook the world, not spot

>> No.18924715

Are you ready for hyper deflation? Time for low triple digits gold.

>> No.18924755

>>18914999
>>18915020
>>18921128
>>18924509
These sites offer accurate information regarding Dutch PM's

http://www.zilverenguldens.info/
zilver-inkoop.bl/zilveren-dukaat.html
goudentientje.info
The .info pages have more links under the tab "info > bronnen en links"

>> No.18924773

>>18917721
>>18917737
What is wrong with it? No niggers are actually on the coin. All the players are clearly white. I understand if you just don't like basketball. I would like to get the baseball series they minted in 2014.

>> No.18924783

>>18924552
Hotel, restaurant, cafe. Dutch word for food/tourism branch

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>>18924690
>how can we spot the world to literally refuse paper contracts?

This will happen once the 174 people who own silver paper try to redeem it for 1 physical ounce and 173 find that they are out of luck.

It will happen anon. Until then stack. I am a stacklet (310oz) and just follow silver.

But if the paper market was destroyed which is likely because it’s essentially a massive Jewish scam as (((banks))) then buy up physical silver while selling paper keeping the price down allowing for more accumulation. It would cause overnight the price of an ounce to be 2,500$ dollars. I wouldn’t doubt if this happened you’d see silver at 10k per ounce. At that point I’d imagine the obvious would even hit the normie sphere that fiat was done for.

Look at what major Jewish financial institutions are doing. They are horsing PM’s; same with nations. Everyone knows this song is about to stop, the problem with America is that it is ran by banks overtly while other nations which are plagued with (((international))) finance are not totally under the control of a small rootless international click and can rule as a homogenous nation with key objectives unlike the mongrelized Jewish run United States.

>> No.18924793

>>18922938
"German silver" isn't a scam. It is literally the name of the alloy. When sold on eBay it is 100% meant to trick people, but it is also 100% truthful.

>> No.18924804
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15kg silver bars. Low premium, about $1 per oz. Problem is selling. Hiw do I find buyer for 15kg bars?

>> No.18924812

>>18924609
Nah, we don't have any native lead ores, just galena and cerussite. The only native metal we have here that looks like silver is silver.

also the exposed surfaces turned black pretty fast once I got the thing home, so I'm pretty sure it's pure.

>> No.18924813
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Anyone else getting these? I'm aiming for
5x 1s
4x 5s
3x 10s
2x 25s
1x 50

>> No.18924822

>>18912370
what determines the value of these things?

here's 1oz of silver in the form of a britannia coin, for £25.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2011-SILVER-BRITANNIA-2-coin-1oz-silver-UNCIRCULATED-ENCAPSULATED/303554069043

here's 1oz of silver in the form of a britannia coin, i.e precisely the same thing with the same weight of metal but which apparently had more of a pedant craft it, for £110.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-Britannia-One-Ounce-Silver-Proof-Coin-Boxed-with-COA/373038617562

the value of the metal's weight seems irrelevant to the price. how the hell do you know which of the above coins to buy? and why not just buy a purified splat of silver for the value of the metal's weight as opposed to paying a fortune for the coin's craftmanship - about which surely no sensible person gives a shit? someone explain how these things are valued. lost.

>> No.18924831

>>18924804
Where the heck do you get those?

>> No.18924847

>>18924813
No, they're gay. Literally made for homosexuals.

>> No.18924877

>>18924813
I'm planning on getting a set for numismatic interest, but nothing more. I expect the project will never really take off and they'll become obscure but valuable collectables.

>> No.18924901

>>18924831
https://www.silverbullion.com.sg/Product/Detail/Nadir_15_kg_Silver_Bar

Many places sell those, but there are little private buyers. People prefere coins and smaller bars.

>> No.18924938

>>18924901
I see they no longer have the bars in stock for pick up, that seems like a pajeet scam.

>> No.18924993

>>18924786
Kek. When people want to cash out of their contracts into real metal, don’t they get cashed out in dollars instead? I mean we’re talking about breaking a Serious mental conditioning. I’m not disregarding what you’re saying, but we’d have to do some serious redpilling for the boomers to drop the paper scam. Off I go, into my NEETCAVE, to scheme the collapse of the paperscam. Anyone is welcome to beat me to it.

>> No.18925221

>>18924509
I can read some Dutch, as the language is just an autistic agglomeration of English, German and Danish.
Thanks for the links!

>> No.18925354

>>18913777
Sexy hollowpoints

>> No.18925362

>>18925221
More like English is an autistic agglomeration of Frisian, Norse, Latin and French that continues its tradition of following other languages down an alley, niggerpunching 'em and going through their pockets for vocabulary and loose grammar.

>> No.18925401

>>18925221
You're welcome, alternatively just google any particular coin you like, should be easy.

>> No.18925548

>>18924450
>Wouldn’t that just mean that bread would then cost like $150


no you hot it backward. it mean right now you are paying the 150$ bread but you dont even know it because all your life you used to pay and get paid in fake currency and gold is real money.

the bread is worth 150$ in gold but is cheap in currency. just like gold is cheap in currency right now. turn your brain on.

>> No.18925651

>>18925548
I get it. Not concerned about the price in dollars, rather the purchasing power of the asset. I don’t care what the price of it is, I want to get the most out of what I have. That said, would there be a lag in value/price if silver matched the dollar/silver ratio or will that reality quickly settle into your local supermarket ie silver is $2500 an ounce, bread at $150?

>> No.18925759

>>18924450
>DOLLAR TO SILVER RATIO NOW
>$2,561
this number was a little over $1,000-something when i first saw it, how come it gets to moon like that without nothing happening?

>> No.18925851

>>18925759
Because of all that currency being printed? I remember at the start of the year it was something like $800-$1050something ish. LOOK AT FUCKING GOLD KEK. Also, what about the crypto to dollars? It actually went down. What are they measuring here, all the crypto or is it just bitcoin?

>> No.18925862

threadly reminder that i own no PMs (precious metals) because they were lost in a tragic accident, and that if you poast whilst logged into your google acct you can skip the captcha.

>> No.18925870

>>18925851
yeah but why hasn't the price of anything changed.
please explain in simple terms for an economic brainlet

>> No.18925900

>>18923818
USD is fucked but it's the best looking horse in the house factory, everyone else in the world that owes debt denominated in USD is going to help keep the value of the dollar propped up. At least short term.

>> No.18925914

>>18925870
I wouldn’t know. That’s what I’m trying to figure out myself. How this “lag” works.

>> No.18925957

>>18925900
Why doesn’t the world just dump the dollar overnight? What is the US going to do, Nuke and sanction the entire world? I just don’t see how the world can be brought to it’s knees by one superpower, one which has sold out its manufacturing and industrial base.

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>>18925957
>Why doesn’t the world just dump the dollar overnight?

The countries that have tried to end up like pic related. But you're right. The world is tired at being the Dollar's bitch and eventually China, Russia, and/or the EU is going to offer a credible alternative reserve currency.

>> No.18926169

>>18924993
>When people want to cash out of their contracts into real metal, don’t they get cashed out in dollars instead?
Yep, but a lot of ppl hoarding paper silver are clueless boomers who ignore this and asked their banker to purchase silver, thinking they have now an edge against inflation. It will be a shock to them the day they try to get their silver once hyperinflation make USD worthless and their banker hand them a bunch of toilet paper with Franklin's head on it instead of metal.
I know because my boomie dad was one of those, blindy trusting his (((banker))) and didn't read the lil lines of the contract. Hopefully i reasoned him in time so he sold his position and purchased a little safe and physical with the money.
Boomers are fucking retarded goylems.

>> No.18926176

>>18924804
That is the most virgin chad picture I have ever seen.

>> No.18926206

>>18926069
Yeah, but it was just ONE DUDE, ONE COUNTRY. imagine the smell of the entire world moving in tandem. The eu could even benefit making friends with China and Russia they’re all closet commies anyway. But I guess we’ll just have to stay tuned.

>> No.18926233

Buy my first gold coin now, or wait? 8% premium on the coin I want at my local dealer. I believe the coronasituation will get worse

>> No.18926322

>>18926169
So we then accelerate the fear of being left without a chair to sit on? I mean, I’d rather not wait another ten-twenty years so I can dump some of these metals for a plot in fuckoffland and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Am I going to have to start sending death threats (fake ones, cmon now mr fed Handler you know me better than that) to folks that blow the whistle like mike Maloney just so he can get up on his blog telling people that he’s being treated with death because he talks about this paper scam? Wouldn’t fear mongering make getting shit like that work on the normies?

>> No.18926338

>>18926233
When in doubt, follow the abc-ALWAYS BUY COIN.

>> No.18926345

>>18915516
Just saw this anon - much appreciated. I also do freelance software dev and have just been running all of my purchases through that LLC. I'll switch over soon though, thanks.

>> No.18926394

There is a /pmg/ on /diy/. Fuck precision machining general

>> No.18926485

>>18926322
>Wouldn’t fear mongering make getting shit like that work on the normies?
Not very likely, normans have no idea who based Mickey is. I'd love to accelerate the process too that said, i consider my stack big enough to make it and i'd rather enjoy it while i'm still relatively young.

>> No.18926546

I'd like to get gold but I don't get the point of coins. Why buy coins when you can buy ingots?

>> No.18926567

>>18926394
I'd like to precision machine your general, if you catch my drift

>> No.18926585

>>18926546
In my country, PM's are taxed with 20%. But not coins / coin bars.

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>>18917289

>> No.18927323

>>18921049
They haven’t posted on their insta in over a year. See if you can even get an email response before ordering. I’m telling you they will take your money and leave you hanging.

>> No.18927420

>>18913688
>>18914720
>>18916367
Anyone have the og pasta?

>> No.18928239

>>18926585
Same for me (french frog Anon)

>> No.18928494

>>18925862
Damn I guess I figured out why I didn’t have to answer captcha on my new phone.

It’s tragic to hear another anon losing stuff. I learned my lesson after losing my crypto and the guns I used to own. Now I keep my PMs safe

>> No.18928553

>>18928239
Do you have a stack, frogbro?

>> No.18928580

Someone make and Link the new thread

>> No.18928594

Bought another 1/4 oz coin, my first armenian one

I'm really into these

>> No.18928836
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>>18928594
Armenian coins are really neat looking. Back in mid march i purchased 100x 1oz literally minutes before the site was out of stock of everything and the premium craze started. Got them for 16€ a pop. Then it was out of stock for 3 weeks and reappeared @25€ in april.
I really got lucky on this one!

>> No.18929465

>>18924609
if its native metal thats unlikely, native lead doesn't like to form, it prefers to convert into a sulfide during ore body formation.

>> No.18929485

>>18924804
>when your looking for precious metal cinder blocks

>> No.18929666

>>18924804
You sell to any LCS/pawn shop, they'll never offer you below spot for pure silver.

>> No.18929843

>>18927323
Thanks anon. I'm opting for Yeagers Poured Silver. The minting is going to be much more cost effective.

Do you know these guys?
I'll also email them too though.
https://yeagerspouredsilver.com/product/12-oz-yeagers-poured-silver-cross/