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So someone at work has found a needle in the men’s room and it has fallen on me to somehow find out who it belongs to and quietly wash our hands clean of the associate. It’s my job because our shop is small and no one knows how to handle the situation and my boss doesn’t want to deal with it. but it could be one of 14 people.

Does anyone have any advice on how to find our junkie? I personally have no clue and can’t reasonably accuse anyone of doing it. I think the most prudent thing to do is to be upfront with everyone and send an email to the shop distribution list regarding the find and ask them to anonymously let us know what they know. Then again I think it might be better to just keep a close eye on everyone and try to spot someone who looks high one day. We don’t drug test but my boss wants whoever this is gone. Any suggestions?

>> No.18908930

>>18908836
Why do you care if someone who works in a shop is doing drugs? Just leave them be and don't be a stasi

>> No.18908941

Could it have been a diabetic's insulin?

>> No.18908944

>>18908836
Its either the skinny weirdo whos into drug culture.

the big ass buff dude doing steroids.

Or the tranny injecting hormone blockers.

>> No.18908947

Put a camera in the bathroom, solve the case and sell the videos of your coworkers pissing for profit

>> No.18908979

>>18908941
they carry biohazard containers for used needles, unlikely

>> No.18908982

any of the guys workout? maybe its test or hormones? i was working in one factory where there was one buff dude who used to take a break everyday to shoot his ass with test.

>> No.18908984

>>18908836
>we don’t drug test
>want to know who is on drugs and fire them

Pick 1 lad

>> No.18908987
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>>18908836
Just frame the person you dislike most for it.

>> No.18908989

>>18908836
Look for pinned pupils and face/nose scratching.

>> No.18909020

>>18908941
If the needle was capped I’d say this 100%

OP you better do your due diligence before you make yourself look like a real retard on your boss’s behalf

>> No.18909031

>>18908836
Drug test for all.

>> No.18909040

Tell the employees you are having problems under your dash, and need the help of someone experienced to take out you car radio.

>> No.18909048

>>18908836
Why would you make this spam thread when all work is shut you idiot.

>> No.18909056

>>18908989
Frog in throat. Shitty attitude. Also most junkies use a needle until the markings are worn off the syringe.

>> No.18909066

>>18908944
>>18908982
I can tell you now that there is literally no reason to take a testosterone shot at work. And absolutely no one needs a shot every day. I’ve been on gear before and that’s not how it works. This needle was used for heroin.

>inb4 “u hypocrite”

>> No.18909072

>>18908987

this but get money out of them first

>> No.18909074

1. Design menial task in which something is to be retrieved from deep pot with water

2. Have to lift sleeves up

3. Run task by every employee

4. Inspect arms

You could also film the trash while simultaneously film the door entry to the restroom if you want a legal method of finding this out. Sync frames and boom.

>> No.18909109

>>18909066
some roiders are delusional and does shit like this mr roidass

>> No.18909121

>>18908836
>shop is small
Who are your primary suspects op?

>> No.18909126

Imagine someone getting fired because someone else unwittingly allowed an anonymous innocuous junkie to use the restroom.

>> No.18909168

Put drugs on the ground and see who picks up up moron

>> No.18909201

>>18908836
Snitches get stiches.

>> No.18909229

>>18909168
this. use their cravings against them
t. actual junkie

>> No.18909233

if black
{
fire for drugs
}
else if drives_van
{
fire for drugs
}
;

>> No.18909254

>>18909121
I have my suspicions but they’re just complete shots in the dark. This is someone’s livelihood I’m dealing with also need to consider legal liability to the company.

>> No.18909257

>>18908836
First you need to verify what was in the syringe to make sure it wasn't a diabetic or someone doing hormone therapy (TRT is pretty common in men above 40).

>> No.18909269

>>18909233
Niggers don’t inject

>> No.18909270

>>18908836
Maybe you should shove it up your ass in front of the whole shop.

>> No.18909278

>>18908836
Congratulations, you got handed a ticket to get your most hated co-worker fired. Hope you pick a tranny, chink or negro. That's how we do it.

>> No.18909325

>>18909257
also this thb

>> No.18909331

>>18908836
If you accuse someone without absolute proof your company is looking at a lawsuit. Sounds like they made you the "fall guy" in case shit hits the fan

>> No.18909361

>>18908836
are you retarded? just ask everyone to show their arms legs and look for signs on veins

>> No.18909364

>>18908836
You know what to do OP, shove it up your fucking ass, or better yet, right into your peehole.

>> No.18909376

>>18909331
Finally, someone with a brain

>> No.18909411

>>18909376
Maybe OP should shove this needle up your ass, bet you never thought about that! Nigger!!

>> No.18909413

>>18909066
nah me and my buddy would take our shots at work, because for the first few months I was afraid to pin myself. We both went into the store room attic bathroom and he pinned my ass at lunch time. Believe it

>> No.18909448

>>18909413
Fucking faggot!!! You are a disgusting degenerate, remember that.

>> No.18909449

I hope you snitch on the guy and he gets you stabbed, sincerely. You're cruising for it

>> No.18909472

>>18909449
Fuck off nigger scum!!

>> No.18909480

>>18908836
ezy peazy,
look at their arms
let me guess 13 out of 14 colleagues are wearing tshirt but one of them is always with long leaves even during summer (unless they are injecting in other spots)
also, heroin faces are pretty easy to spot, don't tell me you don't know already...
if no one is doing heroin or some hard drug then you should not worry
btw if you still have the needle you can buy drug tests kit (boss will pay for them)

>> No.18909488

>>18908836
If you don't have a clue who it is then why do you fucking care? Oh boohoo, some miserable wageslave is alleviating his utter existential angst. Better fire him so he fucks off and OD's. I fucking hate human beings.

I guarantee most of your favorite artists, musicians, actors, writers have sailed with golden brown. If I found out someone was shooting H at a shitty labor job I would personally tell them that they are a valuable human being and to hang in there but get their shit together before someone less understanding catches the drift.

>> No.18909500

>>18909488
Fucking degenerate. You should be sent ti the gulag.

>> No.18909504

btw if it's heroin you and your boss should try to help the guy, this shit will kill him
if it's something minor, who cares, don't be a rat

>> No.18909538

>>18909504
Are you saying OP and his boss should just kill the guy to finish the job?

>> No.18909544

>>18909500
Yup along with all the creatives and laborers, right dipshit? Implying you know anything about addiction or heroin, much less the history of gulags.

>> No.18909558

>>18909544
Fucking faggot, fuck off back to whatever piece of shit faggot shithole you came from.

>> No.18909566
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18909566

>>18909270
>>18909364
>>18909411
>>18909448
>>18909472
>>18909500

>> No.18909597

>>18909270
>>18909364
>>18909411
>>18909448
>>18909472
>>18909500
>>18909538
They really need to reopen daycares

>> No.18909603

>>18909566
Fucking jewish nigger faggot!!! Nigger loving hand rubbing piece of filth!!!

>> No.18909620

>>18909558
Implying you aren't a sub 100 IQ newfag from /pol/ sitting in your parents house. Being a critic when you have zero experience is a bad look, everyone knows you are retarded.

>> No.18909627

>>18909597
If I had the needle from OPs work I'd shove up your fucking ass!!! Eat shit !!!

>> No.18909653

>>18909620
Im in your mama's house right now you little bitch.

>> No.18909670

>>18909653
what's it like to be poor, underage, and stupid?

>> No.18909710

>>18909072
this but also find the real drug person for the necessary evidence, and blackmail both

>> No.18909727

>>18909710
this way you keep someone on the inside under your control

>> No.18909732

>>18909488
I honestly don’t care. If this guy is doing his job and not fucking up suspiciously like he has evidently been doing then I would be happy to not give a fuck BUT this is my assignment. And I did suggest that we instead offer the junkie help in exchange for reaching out but rather that was shot down instantly. Someone is getting fired no matter what.

>> No.18909751

>>18909670
What's it like eating poop for breakfast?

>> No.18909773

>>18909732
You're a boot licking faggot. You will probably be laid off soon anyway when the global depression finally hits.

>> No.18909804

>>18908836
Sounds like you're Mr Yes man around the shop.
Not your problem, not your shop.

>> No.18909837
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18909837

Best thread ob /biz/ atm

10/10 OP

If you for real then I would suggest telling your boss you are not comfortable with this and that he should make a public meeting with everyone explaining what happened and that they should step forward and explain.

>> No.18909838

>>18908836
Fire the diabetic. Laugh at boss when he has to go to court.

>> No.18909855

>>18909804
also this

Not my circus, not my honkies

>> No.18909868

>>18908836
find out who's diabetic. Could be an insulin needle

>> No.18909877

>>18908836
You're going to be sued for violating the ADA you fucking retard. Tell your boss to drug test everyone or he can shut the fuck up and carry on.

>> No.18909927

>>18909732
At least you are reasonable. I'm not telling you to lose your job over this, but you have absolutely zero reason to give a fuck or comply. Very few people pick up heroin just for the lulz.

>> No.18909958

>>18909838
keksed

>> No.18910010

>>18909837
Do this if you have 0 aspirations to move up the chain. Otherwise investigate and fire the most suspicious.

>> No.18910015

>>18909732
Drug addicts are protected by the ADA, as are diabetics. You need to tell your bosses that they're fucking retards and that you won't be complicit in any possible breaking of federal regulations.

>> No.18910092

>>18909732
You may want to check out this thread, a guy is having a similar issue to yours
>>18909906

>> No.18910126

>>18910015
Umm sweaty, people don't get fired for using drugs on the job, they get fired for "underperformance" after the next performance review ;)

>> No.18910161

>>18909877
>>18910015
Failure to dispose of a needle properly is a fine no? something like 70k for a workplace found in breach? also a fine for the person failing to dispose to aka the junky/diabetic. They cant afford not to fire them.
>im actually the lawyer for this company

OP show a pic of the weapon??

>> No.18910163

>>18909072
Make them buy my MVIS

>> No.18910187

>>18908836
dust for prints, it ain't hard. Best of luck pinning your addiction on someone else OP. Hope your not transporting illegal drugs. I hear the prisons in 3rd world countries are really, REALLY bad.

>> No.18910209

>>18910010
what chain, there are 14 wagies there kek, you dodnt read the thread

>> No.18910219
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>>18909732
How the fuck is this "your assignment?"
What's your role in the company? You have to properly document a lot of clues before doing this kind of shit. Finding a random needle in the bathroom isn't enough evidence to do anything, you're going to have to link it to an actual fucking person and then have other PROPERLY DOCUMENTED signs of drug abuse. Then you're going to have to confront them with a witness and ask for their story. In most cases, you either drug test them when coming in, or you wait for them to fuck up and destroy $1000+ worth of equipment and pay to have them drug tested.

This isn't your job, no matter what your boss tells you. What he's asking you to do is illegal. HR is a shitty talent-less piece of shit role, but this is precisely why they fucking exist. Dumbfuck business owners like your boss get sued down to the ground because they don't have HR-Stacy to tell them "doing this will get you sued" at every stupid idea they have.

Luckily for you, this is something that you can (and should) take weeks to investigate before pulling the trigger. You don't have to catch them day of, it still counts as "current" use even if you find the smoking gun a month later. But you NEED DOCUMENTATION and A LOT of it. Not just "oh, we found this needle in the bathroom and Carl sometimes seems a little tweaked up so we're firing him."

Also do you even fucking know what's in the needle? First and foremost, get your boss to shell out for a fucking drug test and figure out what was in there. You're going to get hit pretty fucking hard with a discriminatory lawsuit if it turns out that shit was legitimate medication and you're witch hunting for it. Before you do fucking ANYTHING you're going to need to tell your boss that it needs to be tested. Even if he says "it's obvious what it is, I've seen heroine before!" That shit will fuck him up. DOCUMENT.

Read this:
https://i-sight.com/resources/6-steps-to-take-when-you-suspect-an-employee-is-using-drugs/

>> No.18910391

>>18910092
delet dis

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Just turn yourself in, OP

>> No.18910540

Laws over here clearly state if you dont know how to do your job or task your boss must teach and explain to you how to do it
your boss cant even ask you to do this bs in the first place if its not on your position assignment
6/10 bait made me reply

>> No.18910574

>>18910219
copecel. how do you not know what a drug user looks like?

>> No.18910586

Post pictures of everyone in your office and we’ll point the junkie out for you.

>> No.18910601

>>18910540
workplace laws are a joke and you know it, im faily sure heroin is illegal to boot up at work too.
what if he kills someone?

>> No.18910653

>>18909066
gear = = heroin
juice = = roids

were you on roids anon or heroin?

>> No.18910659

>>18908836
they do saliva drug tests now. just buy 15 of those or whatever and give them to people telling them it's a corona test or a corona antibodies test. you'll probably have to fire multiple people though.

>> No.18910801

>>18909074
lol at legal method. it's illegal to film inside restrooms everywhere. assume that's what you mean by "film the trash." also most addicts reuse needles and don't throw them out until they've used them a bunch of times.

>> No.18910837

>>18909376
you don't have to accuse him of using heroin. you fire him for some other bullshit reason. there's millions of reasons you can legally fire someone. just make one up.

>> No.18910894

>>18908836

nothing you can do about it unless you catch them in the act. you can't even legally drug test everyone unless it was in the initial employment contract.

Who cares anyways, opiod addicts are usually functioning addicts it really only becomes a visible issue when they can no longer afford dope.

>> No.18910901

>>18910601
workplace laws are joke only when you are a doormat

>> No.18910911

>>18910653
You are the only person in the world that says gear in reference to heroin
Everyone else calls steroids gear

>> No.18910991

>>18910801

not true

anywhere with needle exchanges make it easy to use fresh pins on the regular; plus needles are cheap.

only the lowest of the low retarded degenerates reuse needles

>> No.18911216

>>18910901
jokes are only workplace laws when youre a doormat

>> No.18911245

>>18908836
>>18908941
This. Find the fatty who only eats sugar free shit and kick their ass to the curb. Diabetics spit in the face of evolution.

>> No.18911260

>>18908989
this also look for someone who sweats a little too much. Also bags under eyes. I can pick out a junkie from a crowd in seconds

>> No.18911312

>>18910092
god dammit

>> No.18911361

>>18910219
This desu. There's potential legal backlash and if that's not your expertise go tell your boss that you're not comfortable with it or that you want no liability.
Don't be the fall guy for some fucked up "I'll catch the junkie, what even is a lawsuit" - attitude

>> No.18911392

>>18909480
I have needle marks on my veins because I give blood every 3 months.

>> No.18911510
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>>18908836
>>18909732
Snitches get stiches. Hopefully you get a bullet for doing your dumbass employer's work because he didnt think to implement drug tests.

>> No.18911580

>>18911510
> catch a bullet for doing your job
k

>> No.18911656

>>18909544
I do in fact, lived with it for half my life.

Heroine addicts are not victims, they're predators. They pretend to be a victim to justify any behavior. If they dont, they would have to actually take responsibility for their fuckups and the fact that they dont give a fuck about getting clean. Heroine doesn't only hurt the user, but the people around the user. Junkies know this and use the excuse of addiction to take advantage of everyone else around them. It's most likely too late for them when the user actually starts truly believing that they are the ultimate victim.

>but-but you dont understand! You're not an addict!.
No, I do understand you degenerate. I've seen people permanently recover and become clean and go on to live amazing lives. If they can do it, everyone can. And on the chance you fall into perpetual victimhood the only result will be death.

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18911675

>>18911580
>what is the military

Actions have consequences. Cope with it.

>> No.18911782

You have three options:
>Accuse the most likely suspect and fire them. They will probably sue you for wrongful dismissal and there's a high chance someone will still be doing drugs at work.
>Surprise drug test for everyone. Most of your employees will probably walk(this happened at my company. everyone smoked weed off work hours. lost our entire crew).
>Do nothing

>> No.18911814

>>18911656
>Heroine addicts are not victims, they're predators. They pretend to be a victim to justify any behavior. If they dont, they would have to actually take responsibility for their fuckups and the fact that they dont give a fuck about getting clean. Heroine doesn't only hurt the user, but the people around the user. Junkies know this and use the excuse of addiction to take advantage of everyone else around them. It's most likely too late for them when the user actually starts truly believing that they are the ultimate victim.
Agreed
t. 10 years in recovery

>> No.18911835

>>18911675
nigger thinking

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>>18911835
Good luck, famalam.

>> No.18912145

>>18909066
Well, listen to this, I have a guy at work that wanted to do a cycle but was too afraid to shoot. So my colleague decided to do it for him. Twice a week they were upstairs shooting his ass during work hours. So, it's possible

>> No.18912193

>>18909066
Bodybuilders will take insulin and have to inject it before meals

>> No.18912329

>>18912145
i have unironically and literally never been shot at work. sometimes but only rarely do i shoot people though so i kind of get it. but at the same time, it'd offend me

>>18911920
Kekd

>> No.18912653

>>18910911
wrong.

Gear has always been the british slang for heroin since the 90s

>> No.18912858

Plot twist
it's 100% OP
he's creating a digital trail to make it look like it's not him by asking his stupid questions online
Don't believe me? only 5 replies by him, and they're all weak as shit.

>> No.18912957

>>18908836
Someone discarded a used needle in the bathroom at my job. It turned out to be some old lady with diabetes. Syringe doesn't automatically equate to heroin or juicing

>> No.18913134

>>18908836
Blame the black guy anon