/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.18883012]

>DUDE BE AMERICAN LMAO

[Anonymous No.18883074]

>Statutory

I've never had less than 4 weeks paid and 2 weeks of holiday. Maybe get a better job?

[Anonymous No.18883106]

>>18883074
Also I have family in Spain and they get "more" time off but they have no choice of when to take it. So the government dictate when you can go on vacation, and since the entire country goes at the same time it's a total cluster fuck. Meanwhile I can take vacation at any time that fits my personal schedule.

[Anonymous No.18883134]

>>18883012
>Japan
>South Korea

Fake

[Anonymous No.18883185]

>>18883012

As an American working with people from all around the world I can say that it is difficult to deal with all of the nonsense holidays that other countries recognize. I get 4 weeks paid vacation and unlimited sick leave so I’m not suffering, but I do wish people from other countries would work harder and more often.

[Anonymous No.18883189]

>>18883106

>So the government dictate when you can go on vacation

False.

[Anonymous No.18883225]

>>18883012
>be American
>work for nobody
Comfy as I ever been

[Anonymous No.18883232]

>>18883012
>Be American
>work for the government
>earn 1 day paid leave every 2 weeks
>never use it
>this year have 66 days of paid leave

>Be American but in 2013
>work as a contractor making $180k in 6 months
>live off that for the next 24 months neeting

Yea it's pretty great to be American.

[Anonymous No.18883244]

>>18883106
Your family must lie to you

[Anonymous No.18883256]

>>18883185
>I do wish people from other countries would work harder and more often
up yours cuck

[Anonymous No.18883269]

>>18883134
Retard
>Under Japan's labour laws, all full time employees are guaranteed the minimum 10 days of paid annual leave per year after serving an initial 6 months of employment, irrespective of race or gender, and where they were present for at least 80% of the hours they were supposed to be working.
>South Korean companies with full-time salaried employees are legally required to provide 15 days of paid annual leave after one year of service with the company. An additional vacation day is paid for each two years of service thereafter. The statutory vacation days earned per year are capped at 25 days

[Anonymous No.18883271]

>>18883106
In Germany the usual deal is 12 holidays ("huuuur state-mandated days off") + 30 days to take whenever you like (+ any other amount of days you negotiated, for example I have another 2 days off)

[Anonymous No.18883277]

>>18883189
Shut the fuck up you europoor faggot.

God I wish biz had flags. It'd be way easier to ignore you fuckers.

[Anonymous No.18883280]

Being on a slave plantation probably isn't much worse than being a US wagie

[Anonymous No.18883281]

>>18883012
>MUH LAND OF FREEDUMS

[Anonymous No.18883286]

I'm American and get 30 days of vacation a year.

[Anonymous No.18883304]

Everyone with real jobs gets at least two weeks paid per year.

[Anonymous No.18883305]

>>18883277
lmao seething mutt needs a safe space?
awwwwwwwww

[Anonymous No.18883314]

>>18883277
Imagine bragging about 30 days off like a mutt slave when I have 44

[Anonymous No.18883324]

I want to move to Germany

[Anonymous No.18883327]

Europoors don't understand that it's possible to receive something without it being given to you by mama government. The concept of earning pay and benefits based on the value you provide is foreign to them.

[Anonymous No.18883351]

>>18883106
lol you must be retarded to believe that

[Anonymous No.18883398]

>>18883256

If you don’t understand words then don’t use them you dumb nigger. “Cuck” doesn’t make any sense here. If you’re too lazy to do the job you were hired for then you deserve to be poor and homeless faggot.

[Anonymous No.18883404]

Eurotrash are so pathetic. Say one thing about their country, and they get asshurt and look for the downvote button

[Anonymous No.18883438]

>>18883327

This. The lazy ass fucks across the pond are always shitting on Americans for being slow and dumb, but in the real world I just see Americans waiting for Eurofags to actually learn something and do their jobs in a timely manner.

[5.45 !!K3nua06qYkB No.18883468]

I'm American and get 52 days off

Sorry the workers at McDonald's can't take a day off from doing basically fuck all work

[Anonymous No.18883476]

>>18883404
Look at the OP and the reactions ITT. Yes, Americans are dumb. And fat.

[5.45 !!K3nua06qYkB No.18883521]

>>18883314
GDP per hour worked

Meaningless chart when Ireland is a tax haven
Do you think people are productive by NOT working?

[Anonymous No.18883525]

>>18883074
> look how privileged I am
> just get rich to not be poor anymore

Take a swim through a volcano.

[Anonymous No.18883539]

>>18883277
Why are you boiling inside?

[Anonymous No.18883555]

This kills the Europoors

[Anonymous No.18883556]

>>18883269
Yeah and if you actually take any of that leave you’re regarded as a slacker and are socially outcast. Bug people are fucked in the head

[5.45 !!K3nua06qYkB No.18883562]

>>18883525
>Seething europoor
Don't you have some VAT to pay for a shitty post like that?

[Anonymous No.18883566]

>>18883521
>X is z, so the data is meaningless for Y, V, U etc.
Can't make up that failed education system

[Anonymous No.18883588]

>>18883555

[Anonymous No.18883608]

>>18883398
seethe harder wagie

[Anonymous No.18883618]

>>18883555
That is income after taxes. Not after all necessary expenses. After taking into account everything being expensive in the US, like healthcare, education, childcare, transportation, food, etc. Real disposable income crashes down fast.

[Anonymous No.18883619]

>>18883012
Jokes on you I don’t work and I still make more than the average Europoor. And I don’t pay taxes. There’s so much money here you can get rich selling stuff under the table. Just because we still have slaves doesn’t mean we all are one.

[Anonymous No.18883655]

>>18883555
love when my disposable income gets eaten up by gas costs, hospital bills and rent

[Anonymous No.18883665]

>>18883556
Stop spending 20 hours a day on /pol/ maybe
Leave the house once in a while maybe
Take a shower more than once a month maybe

[5.45 !!K3nua06qYkB No.18883677]

>>18883566
>Failed education system
Can I tell you a secret?

It only fails in certain places where certain minorities live, just like the obesity and crime stats, all minorities

If you're white in America, you may as well be in Germany or Netherlands

[Anonymous No.18883701]

>>18883655
Weird how Americans have so much disposable income yet live paycheck to paycheck. It’s almost as if nothing is affordable in the US

[Anonymous No.18883730]

>>18883665
What does that even mean bug person? Do you speak English?

[Anonymous No.18883749]

>>18883665
>seething bug person detected

[Anonymous No.18883760]

>>18883701
Americans are dumb dumbs when it comes to finances. They blow money on frivolous shit like booze and cigarettes. Millennials are most guilty of this, buying their toys from ThinkGeek and such

[Anonymous No.18883766]

>>18883677
Secret comming through: If you are in Germany, you might as well be in Germany no matter what.

[Anonymous No.18883782]

amerilards are actually trying to call people lazy when most of them are 400lbs diabetic and on oxygen yet still have to work as a wal-mart door greeter 365 days a year

[5.45 !!K3nua06qYkB No.18883787]

>>18883766
I guess if you want to be a literal slave to the govt and live with humorless people, okay

[Anonymous No.18883789]

>>18883556
lol the thing about japan is that a lot of them don't even work hard. they have a retarded work culture that makes them stay in longer than they should but really they're just professional chair warmers most of the time. you don't know what inefficiency is until you see a typical japanese workplace

[Anonymous No.18883815]

I had 12 days off total last year. My internet frens in europe had basically all of august off. My company shut down for covid19 and used our vacation time, so this year I'll have none unless you count being locked up at home as vacation

[Anonymous No.18883820]

>>18883760
Millennials spend much less than Boomers. In fact, they have the best savings rate. You are a confirmed Boomer. How did you figure out how to use the internet?

[Anonymous No.18883855]

>>18883815
I didn't take a single day off yet for this year. I still have 37 and no intention on taking them anytime soon. I will cash them out for two monthly wages extra.

[Anonymous No.18883861]

>>18883269
Except if you dishonor your company by taking a week off you are forced to commit seppeku so that your wife and children are not socially outcasted along with yourself

[Anonymous No.18883862]

>>18883820
>Millennials spend much less than Boomers. In fact, they have the best savings rate.
I think the older ones are. We graduated in like 2008 when the market went to shit and saw people who were going to retire have to work another 8 years because their 401ks went in the toilet. Zoomers not so sure about, they've only seen a good market and are always complaining about debt and asset prices.

[Anonymous No.18883873]

>>18883789
True, but the social norm is to be present regardless, at least as I understand it. Japan is a very weird example. I get the distinct impression that half of their economy is driven by the elegant complexity with which they can pack basic consumer goods

[Anonymous No.18883926]

>>18883655
>gas costs

Gas is like a dollar fifty a gallon you fag lmao move out of Spicafornia

>Hospital bills
Ever try not being a fatass?

>rent
Get a mortgage dumb ass. Not only is it cheaper but you're not paying someone else's mortgage

[Anonymous No.18883953]

>>18883701
also weird stuff like payday loans or floating 5 credit cards isn't a thing in Europe

[Anonymous No.18883959]

>>18883398
Yes it does , you’re a cuck to your employer

[Anonymous No.18883982]

>>18883873
The only reason everyone in Japan is a chair warmer is because their economy is entirely faked by cheap money like the US economy. They would be a legitimately efficient country and the used to be when they were still a hub of production of cheap but high quality products but they too like the US decided to become a house flipper and stock market economy.

[Anonymous No.18884027]

>>18883766

Whatever you say Mohammad. Last time I was in Germany, it was very culturally enriched. It's a shame what's happened to that once great nation. No thanks.

[Anonymous No.18884036]

>>18883677
>I'm totally not a retarded subhuman mutt I swear
yes you are, especially when it's a tradition over where you are to cut off foreskin. enjoy bending over to your jewish overlords meanwhile the rest of the world laughs at your entire nation for being the laughing stock it is

[Anonymous No.18884110]

>>18884036
If we are a laughing stock why are you so angry? I mean I laugh at a lot of countries like North Korea or India for being goofy and retarded but my reaction isn't extreme anger and vitriol like you seem to be expelling

[Anonymous No.18884118]

>>18884027
literally you

[Anonymous No.18884288]

>>18884110
>condescension is extreme anger and vitriol
whatever helps you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.18884300]

>>18883277
Agree but I want to ignore Mutts

[Anonymous No.18884327]

>>18884118
BASED

[Anonymous No.18884361]

>>18883012
At least income taxes are low enough in usa to retire before 65..

[Anonymous No.18884369]

>>18883404
USA NUMBER 1

[Anonymous No.18884418]

>>18884288
Imagine unironically bragging about being condescending as a man.

[Anonymous No.18884437]

>>18883012
I get 38 days a year, suck it Anglos

[Anonymous No.18884549]

>>18883012
Vacation is gay as fuck. Only r*ddit cares about going to jewish tourist traps and spending $6 gorillion dollars on local IPAs and mickey mouse rides.

[Anonymous No.18884567]

>>18884549
your comment is grim
T. Britbong

[Anonymous No.18884597]

>your comment is grim
>T. Britbong

[Anonymous No.18884842]

>>18884118
That picture would be more accurate if the guy was brown and wearing a rag on his head. You guys had a good run though, so respect there. Thank God for the Atlantic Ocean.

[Anonymous No.18885661]

>>18884549
this made me laugh out loud. I hate fucking traveling. Go to some landmark and it's just full of tourists and tshirt shops and crowds. I also feel bad because I'm shitting up some locals country by being there and taking up space.

[Anonymous No.18885723]

>>18883012
Listen, we can either import billions of refugees for our multicultural utopia or we can have things like paid vacation and universal healthcare. Do you really want to sacrifice vibrant diversity for things like that?

[Anonymous No.18885783]

>>18883012
>be American milfag
>4 day weekend every other month
>(count the M and F, times 6, that’s 12)
>free Thanksgiving leave (3-4 days)
>free Christmas leave (3-4 days)
Already at 18-20 days off
>earn 2.5 days off every month (30 per year)
>now at 48-50 days off per year, not counting traditional weekends
>doesn’t include days of no scheduled activities which varies by unit
Super easy to net 50+ vacation days in a year. Get a better job.

[Anonymous No.18885856]

Yes, Europe is better for skillless wagies and NEETs. If you are highly skilled or want to run a business, America is better.

[Anonymous No.18885888]

>>18883012
This is why i work a seasonal job. Roughly 14 weeks paid (unemployment) vacation

[Anonymous No.18885894]

>>18885783
kek that was me. and i was a computer fag that never saw combat. worst came to worst i'd get blown up in base setting up a network but never got shot at. now I get like a day a year wageslaving.

[Anonymous No.18885902]

>>18884549
That is vacations for consoomers, I'm taking a month off this summer and going for a few weeks sailboat trip and then possibly some Camping or few days long mountain bike trip.
But man it still sucks wagecucking. Unironically moving to a deserted isle if I don't make it the next 10 years.

[Anonymous No.18885941]

>>18885723
Just curious... thinking out loud here... if most people don't racemix despite multi-cultural countries, and the future is increasingly digital with increasingly diverse online environments based on "merit" or whathaveya, and we would theoretically even invent teleportation and thus do away with travel time letting us visit foreign countries like China in an instant... what's the point of all this shit? Why do I need a multicultural chinatown if I can just step into a teleporter, have everything translated into chink via an app... hell maybe even turn into a chink myself for a moment because my body adapts to the different geographical location (yes, you'd turn into a nigger when visiting africa)...

[Anonymous No.18885981]

>>18885856
Sounds like you have never done business in the U.S. friend. Times have changed. Look at what it takes to open something as simple as a cafe or bakery in California. Literally worse than almost all major EU cities.

Taxes are higher now too with all the mandated insurances.

[Anonymous No.18885989]

>>18883012
After working for my company for a year I have accumulated a total of 50 days that I can take off whenever I want, for any reason I want.
I’ve reached my limit, and now the company pays me out in $$$ for that time off that I earn, in overtime.
Meaning I get about an extra $75-$100 a paycheck

[Anonymous No.18886022]

>be yuropoor
>get furloughed for 2 months every year
>call it a vacation
lol

[Anonymous No.18886071]

>>18886022
lmao

[Anonymous No.18886083]

>>18883618
>>18883701
The Federal reserve used economic policies to indenture the average American into slavery. It's financial facism.

[Anonymous No.18886202]

>>18883012
>chile
>15 days of annual leave
it's actually 21. for some reasons, weekends aren't counted, but are included.

[Anonymous No.18886546]

How many seconds can the rest of the world go without thinking about America?

[Anonymous No.18886960]

>>18883555
checked

[Anonymous No.18887135]

>>18886546
how many seconds can an amerishart go without seething this hard?

[Anonymous No.18887170]

>>18883012
Everyday is vacation day in the great USA

[Anonymous No.18887224]

>>18886022
lmfao it's PAID vacation
you fucks do live in a first world country right?

[Anonymous No.18887293]

>>18883555
Difference is that yuros don't have 150k in debt after college nor must take a loan everytime they have to go to the hospital.

[Anonymous No.18887296]

Thanks god I'm not american lmao

t. brazilian

[Anonymous No.18887361]

>>18883269
They still cant take vacation, you stupid fucking retard

[Anonymous No.18887747]

This is because a strictly “business first” mindset has crept in to the majority of corporations operating within the United States.

It’s quite a conundrum because from a business standpoint, you want to increase revenue and cut costs. This means pursuing practices like outsourcing, automation, etc. that eliminate domestic jobs in the long term.

However, the VAST majority of people are workers, and so we also see the importance of things like proper work/life balance, employee benefits, and decent salaries.

Now at some point, you hope that these two ideals intersect and a business can be successful while also valuing the people that arguable make it successful. However, more times than not, this is not the case.

Just today my company had a meeting with its developers about how automating processes should be the number one priority moving forward. The goal is to make processes more “efficient” to increase revenue and cut cost, ultimately eliminating domestic job in the United States and outsourcing and menial task that cannot be fully automated to India.

So the situation is a US business, making money off of US customers and businesses, does not want to pay US citizens and would rather pay for cheap labor in India? Are you starting to see the problem?

[Anonymous No.18888522]

>>18883555
The median income would have some meaning, this only tells us which country has the most shekelbergs

[Anonymous No.18888572]

>>18887747
It’s a short term profit seeking thing that has huge ramifications down the road. All the cheap shit we’ve bought from China over the years now means that I can’t buy a house in my home town because chinks with suitcases of cash outbid idiot tax payers like me who subsidize their kids’ educations. It really is a boomer’s world.