/LITGEN/ Lition General

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/LITGEN/ Lition General Anonymous Mon May 4 17:37:22 2020 No.18868565 [Reply] [Original]

Best coin out there edition

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:39:04 2020 No.18868604 File: 72 KB, 640x480, 1588526947263.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based and Litpilled

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:50:22 2020 No.18868819 File: 63 KB, 596x738, 5BA94581-0B12-4BC5-A7D9-74EDD1D9B188.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When idex allows burgers to buy this Shits gonna moon hard Great to be here guys its gonna be a fun ride to $100

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 18:34:12 2020 No.18869604 >>18868819 I don't want burgers to make it. LIT is a nazi german coin, no burgers allowed in

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 18:49:38 2020 No.18869868 File: 395 KB, 1125x1600, 1588178865575.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18868819 $100 would be beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 18:56:48 2020 No.18869987 >>18869868 Just for context, if we hit the same Mcap as HEX, LIT would be over 12USD.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:15:32 2020 No.18870322 File: 25 KB, 948x436, lit marketcap new.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Threadly reminder

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:17:42 2020 No.18870365 >>18869987 Not true at current ratios but possible if the BTC dominance falls again (as it should in alt season)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:36:18 2020 No.18870671 File: 425 KB, 1126x1600, 1588533876273.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18869868 PLEASE STOP USING THAT ONE AND ONLY USE THIS ONE

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:43:02 2020 No.18870792 Daily reminder to stake and be comfy

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:55:09 2020 No.18870985 >>18870365 When does Alt season come? Hasn't there only ever been one?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:55:46 2020 No.18871001 >>18870671 Thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:56:57 2020 No.18871018 File: 178 KB, 1956x594, Screenshot_20200502-102423_Trust Wallet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18870322 This makes me hard

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:57:22 2020 No.18871028 >>18868565 This is my only chance of becoming rich, quit my job and live a great life.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:59:00 2020 No.18871057 File: 79 KB, 180x180, brah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gents, what do we think about below, have seen a few numbers thrown around: Suicide: 10k Comfy: 25k Make it: 100k (some have said 50k)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:19:59 2020 No.18871388 >>18871057 It all depends on BTC performance. LIT has a fairly good BTC correlation.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:36:58 2020 No.18871643 >>18870985 Alt season usually peaks a year or two after the halving historically (highly correlated with BTC but there will be more alt growth leasing up to BTC maxing out at maximum greed)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:40:55 2020 No.18871697 Shitcoin that’s not needed. Can’t wait to see it go to zero

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:42:29 2020 No.18871719 Argentinean lead developer edition

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:56:43 2020 No.18871923 >>18871719 Who is this Argentinean dev?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 21:29:07 2020 No.18872355 How legitimate projects like this get ignored and ponzi schemes like Hex go up so much, I can't understand.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 21:57:52 2020 No.18872787 >>18870985 2013 altseason > 2015 altseason > 2017 altseason

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 22:04:48 2020 No.18872908 >>18871923 https://de.linkedin.com/in/patriciomosse

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 22:41:49 2020 No.18873503 File: 186 KB, 640x640, 1575953784851.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18872908 Ok, he looks qualified. Is there an issue?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 22:45:42 2020 No.18873553 >>18868565 What makes this any different from unibright, except for the added p2p energy trading functionality?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:08:34 2020 No.18873849 >>18873553 Well, one difference already is that I own LIT but no unibright

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:09:57 2020 No.18873871 >>18873503 The issue starts with an A and ends with rgentina.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:51:16 2020 No.18874371 >>18871719 maybe he was a nazi that fled after ww2

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:56:15 2020 No.18874441 >>18870322 I hate these graphs. It's absolutely baseless.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:57:19 2020 No.18874454 >>18873553 GDPR compliance. And don't understate the energy business.

Anonymous Mon May 4 23:58:38 2020 No.18874469
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>>18873553
1) It has significantly more customers and has p2p energy available to the mass market, whereas the others do not.
2) GDPR compliant which cannot be understated
3) SAP's CTO co-wrote their technical whitepaper and is their main advisor (ie. Strong connection with SAP)
4) Member of EEC and EMINENT
5) Integrations with Microsoft Azure and Saleforce
6) All star team with their roots deep into the energy industry

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:59:26 2020 No.18874480 HOW DO I BUY

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 00:01:09 2020 No.18874500 File: 10 KB, 221x228, an.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18874480 Buy on IDEX. If a burger, use a VPN to buy on IDEX, get ahead of your lower IQ burger compatriots.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 00:13:50 2020 No.18874631 >>18874480 If you're in USA you can try Hotbit

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 00:55:41 2020 No.18875111 >>18868565 Lol

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 01:47:44 2020 No.18875714 File: 28 KB, 478x308, IMG_20200205_122838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18874441 I'm staking over 9,000 right now but I don't feel comfy. I need more don't I. This is my and only moonshot.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:00:19 2020 No.18875843 >>18875714 >tfw only staking 6700 I dont want to sell my link to buy more lition.

Anonymous Tue May 5 02:02:04 2020 No.18875858

I cant believe this shit scam pnd from a year ago has gotten so popular again, I thought we all sold it at 40 cents. This and VIDT made me kinda wealth last summer desu, it was easy as fuck to exit both with profits too. I can't imagine anyone still bagholding this, you fucks really do get married to your shitcoins,

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:08:43 2020 No.18875903 >>18875843 Do it retards, LINK is crap the only people who are happy with it are the ones that bought at 15 cents and now have had their x 30. Won't do anything for you anymore. LIT will

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:24:08 2020 No.18876020 >>18875843 >I dont want to sell my link to buy more lition. Lition is significantly more underpriced than LINK. You can take your profits and put them back into LINK if you want.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:25:12 2020 No.18876030 >>18868565 Can't believe I'm almost 10x on this LITERAL scam

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:25:25 2020 No.18876033 >>18875858 You just repeat the same thing over and over. Just give me one actual reason why this a pnd.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:26:28 2020 No.18876040 File: 128 KB, 1770x728, iujy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18876030 Nice VPN. Didn't work last time.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:29:46 2020 No.18876070 >>18874469 >SAP's CTO co-wrote their technical whitepaper and is their main advisor (ie. Strong connection with SAP) Based retard, SAP did NOTHING for them other than the initial marketing boost. It got them a bunch of pajeets

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:31:47 2020 No.18876094 >>18876020 >>18875903 Or maybe link moons again and I'm left behind while lition tanks. It's risky, and I trust Link more than Lition desu.

Anonymous Tue May 5 02:35:05 2020 No.18876112

>>18876070
Well no because SAP's CTO is still their main advisor. Why would SAP bother promoting a product that they don't care about.
>pajeet
Get some new terminology

>>18876094
Well that just comes from not really understanding Lition but sure. Link has a lot higher market cap and currently no real utility by real customers, Lition has a lot lower market cap and therefore significantly easier to pump. Also mainnet 2.0 is looking to launch this quarter.

Anonymous Tue May 5 02:42:52 2020 No.18876186
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Hoping my litbros can help me out here.

I made a deposit into my IDEX wallet and put the gas price at 1 gwei. Now the transaction is forever processing and I would like to cancel it so I do not run into problems in the future. I have googled the problem and seems like I could fix it but I need to know the nonce of the transaction, which I can't find because etherscan doesn't show it and the transaction won't show on my MetaMask wallet. Any anons know wtf I should do?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:47:38 2020 No.18876235 File: 88 KB, 1080x261, lg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18868565 Please be consistent with /lg/ naming conventions in future.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:47:57 2020 No.18876239 >>18876186 metamask should allow you to increase gas and resend the transaction

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 02:57:52 2020 No.18876329 >>18876186 >won't show on my MetaMask wallet oops i misread your post. just post a new transaction. send your stack to a new wallet with a normal gas price

Anonymous Tue May 5 02:58:51 2020 No.18876334
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>>18876094
Link also has 38% of tokens outstanding with the devs still sitting on 27% and 35% being held back for the community.

Lition has 60+% in circulation with only 3% withheld for the team, 7% for the community an the other 30 for early investors an for Lition company ownership.

Link is headed by a philosophy phd with a history in the NXT debacle meanwhile Lition is headed by picrelated.
Link is also 3500 times as expensive.
I dont know what your link/lit allocation is though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 03:00:18 2020 No.18876350 >>18876186 you need to add it as a custom token

Anonymous Tue May 5 03:54:59 2020 No.18876777

>>18876094
How much upside does Link have realistically anymore? x2? x5? Even that would need a massive influx of new money into Link. Forget the $1000 EOY meme.

Lition on the other hand has great upside potential with it's low marketcap and actual real world use cases with actual real world application.
Lition isn't really about the token in itself. It's a business in a lucrative market that will gain a competitive advantage by utilizing blockchain technology in a way that others have not been able to do yet.
They're not another crypto project just for the sake of being a crypto project, but they're using the new technology to disrupt an industry that's been stuck in a rut for decades.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 03:56:25 2020 No.18876785 >>18868565 Internet coins are autistic investments. Buy oil or gold u fucking faggots

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 04:33:09 2020 No.18877112 >>18876785 Almost as bad as BTC maxis. Why would I invest into something that's already been priced in over something that was much more potential?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 04:33:10 2020 No.18877114 stop chilling this, i need to wait to buy more fuckers

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 04:33:43 2020 No.18877121 File: 43 KB, 500x461, 1o578f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18876334 This man is a godsend. Thank you based Richard.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 04:52:06 2020 No.18877260 >>18876777 Ssssh theyll report you to the based department

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 04:58:45 2020 No.18877334 File: 3 KB, 120x434, Sans titre.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How is your steaking doing litbros?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 05:12:33 2020 No.18877449 >>18871057 Yes those numbers are correct

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 05:15:31 2020 No.18877473 >>18871697 living rent free in your head >>18877334 Living the comfy life 200+ a day

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 05:23:34 2020 No.18877547 File: 50 KB, 900x900, IMG-20180706-WA0018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18877473 Very nice Anon, congratulations.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 05:24:05 2020 No.18877553 >>18877473 What period? Full year?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 05:35:48 2020 No.18877673 >>18873871 See this >>18874371

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 05:47:53 2020 No.18877813 >>18877553 1.8x you bet. Some anons have two stacks, one to dump at peaks and one to hold

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 05:51:48 2020 No.18877864 >>18876334 How would someone not invest in this man, I don't get it.

Anonymous Tue May 5 06:13:24 2020 No.18878083
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>>18871057
The comfy addition is new. I like it.
Make it stays 100k imo.

>>18871018
Imagine non-Litians not receiving a 1.71% staking return in 2 weeks. LMAO.

>>18875843
>>18876094
Make the switch.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 06:29:04 2020 No.18878249 >>18871057 50k is all most people will need to make it

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 06:32:52 2020 No.18878290 >>18877553 6 months, I regret not staking for a year

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 06:38:51 2020 No.18878366 File: 35 KB, 450x250, 1585936223832.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >got 20k staked for 12 months and can just sit back and relax >don't need to trade or watch charts just sit back and collect rewards This is living

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 06:42:55 2020 No.18878395 >>18878366 This, holy shit the stress has gone down when theres no swing trading involved

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 06:57:41 2020 No.18878551 File: 17 KB, 773x229, stake.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys why am I earning a little less every day?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:03:29 2020 No.18878602 >>18878551 The more people that stake, the lower the reward gets.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:07:15 2020 No.18878640 >>18878551 More staking, higher token price

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:07:38 2020 No.18878641 >>18878366 >>18878395 sneed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:09:00 2020 No.18878650 >>18878551 This >>18878602. The reward pool is not infinite of course. And when it'll be dried up will come the sweet $$$ instead. Btw my dude: sell your LINKs.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:14:17 2020 No.18878723 File: 164 KB, 409x436, 1574153025726.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18868565 We gonna be soooooo filthy rich!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:17:54 2020 No.18878761 >>18878650 you dont seem to understand that the rewards will always be in LIT LIT get's burned on one end (transaction fees) LIT get's added on the other (staking rewards)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:26:51 2020 No.18878862 >>18876334 >3500 times more expensive i think you mean 350, unless LIT is back at a penny.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:29:41 2020 No.18878893 >>18871018 you guys realize the more you shill this coin and staking it, the lower rewards you're going to get as more people stake it right?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:30:47 2020 No.18878912 >>18878862 Yeah but there are 10 times as many LINK tokens as there are LIT tokens.

Anonymous Tue May 5 07:43:30 2020 No.18879038

>>18876329
Why would I need to send it to a new wallet? Is that the only way to get shit working again? Not that bad I guess. It won't get stuck behind the slow transaction?

>>18876350
No, I have done that, I can see the stack in my MetaMask, but MetaMask does not list the withdrawal transaction into the IDEX wallet (which I'm not sure it even does anyway?).

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:54:35 2020 No.18879157 File: 8 KB, 220x184, 1567636800620.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18871057 My best case scenario is 10k. Being poor fucking sucks.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:55:53 2020 No.18879173 File: 93 KB, 657x527, researchpepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18878888 >>18876777 >>18875555 >>18867222 What did KEK mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 08:05:18 2020 No.18879283 >>18874441 How are they baseless? It's literally just a description of how marketcap and price correlate.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 08:07:23 2020 No.18879308 >>18879283 Don't bother, we have exhausted the /biz/ supply of triple IQ anons. As of yesterday we have have started recruiting sub 100 IQ anons out of pure necessity. On the bright side, there is a near endless supply of them to shill our bags to.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 08:19:43 2020 No.18879458 >>18878893 exactly. Stop shilling this guys.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 08:27:42 2020 No.18879565 >>18879038 Did you increase the gas limit the first time to 1700000? If so, you need to deposit a second time to confirm, which I did with a slighty higher gas price and limit (10 - 1900000). Worked for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 08:28:52 2020 No.18879587 File: 87 KB, 816x894, 1588156287207.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18876777 checked

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 08:35:32 2020 No.18879679 >>18868565 >0.00055 >Someone dumps 10-20 eth >0.00045 >Shill thread on biz to try to get people to buy and stake (so no sell pressure) >0.00055 >Sell 10-20eth It's all so obvious and tiresome. I'm selling if it's not over $10m by next week.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 08:52:38 2020 No.18879961 Guys someone moved his 320k LIT wall from 0.0056 to 0.007

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 09:13:22 2020 No.18880302 COMMERCIALS WHEN?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 09:18:20 2020 No.18880391 >>18879679 If you’re in then it’s not a bad plan just don’t do 12 months so you’re left bagholding

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 09:18:29 2020 No.18880395 >>18871057 >Tfw 2500 I'm new,, but I just need 6 months...it's going to be too late to make it by then if I can only buy 500 USD a month, huh? I'm also kind of iffy on sticking with hotbit.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 09:27:50 2020 No.18880557 >>18880395 retard >Wahh i can't make money with what i have :'(( If only i was botn with 2million then I wold be okay

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 09:31:35 2020 No.18880622 >>18880557 Rude.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 10:19:28 2020 No.18881635 File: 125 KB, 563x1280, IMG_20200505_161844_766.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Show your shadow rank

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 10:25:04 2020 No.18881769 >>18881635 As a fellow Lition hodler.. Can we not do that? That's cringy af

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 10:59:04 2020 No.18882510 >>18881635 Yeah, I know this is edgy to some. But to me it's real and I abhor these fucks so I dont want to direct meme energy towards them nor imitate them. Really nicely designed though, beautifully made. Hope you contribute with more memes.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 11:05:42 2020 No.18882657 >>18881769 I like it >>18881635

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 11:08:42 2020 No.18882717 File: 321 KB, 962x468, 3EBEB66A-846B-428C-A486-F795F265C308.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We’re going to make it bros

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 11:20:47 2020 No.18882977 Where is the commercial? Site is already up https://www.sparwelt.de/oekostrom

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 11:29:54 2020 No.18883174 >>18881769 >>18882510 Wtf is wrong with you guys. THE WEAK WILL BE CULLED. JOIN THE STRONG WHEN YOU STILL HAVE TIME

Anonymous Tue May 5 11:42:04 2020 No.18883447
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>The energy products will be marketed under Sparwelt’s brand, but 100% of the settlement and energy related processes will be handled by Lition and the Lition Blockchain. The deal involves a 7 figure TV media budget.

>Learn more and watch the TV spot here (https://medium.com/@mstephenw5/lition-enters-brand-partnership-with-sparwelt-rtl-to-drive-blockchain-powered-green-energy-badb2e2ac023)!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 11:54:19 2020 No.18883714 >>18883447 HOLY MOLY

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 11:56:57 2020 No.18883768 >>18883447 it looks good. Pump my bags, german normies

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 12:02:07 2020 No.18883871 >>18883447 Im not trying to shill, just curious: Does someone know any other blockchainproject that does tv ads? Maybe exchanges or so? Branded or not and country doesnt matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 12:02:53 2020 No.18883893 >>18883447 Thank you

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 12:18:38 2020 No.18884256 >>18883871 I think there have been some in the past but I can think of any other project remotely as normie friendly as this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 12:33:57 2020 No.18884566 >>18883447 7 figures, holy shit!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 12:34:22 2020 No.18884576 File: 146 KB, 432x421, pepechamp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18883447 >The deal involves a 7 figure TV media budget That's the same order of magnitude that the entire Lition network is valued at.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 12:46:47 2020 No.18884812 >>18883447 Jesus Christ we're gonna be rich

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 12:51:34 2020 No.18884925 File: 280 KB, 780x1337, 1444443437590.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18884566 >>18884576 >>18884812 >tfw I only have 45k but that's enough to make it How is that feeling called?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 13:10:33 2020 No.18885324 >>18876777 deleet thes

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 13:19:26 2020 No.18885492 File: 146 KB, 500x500, 1587940758348.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18876112 >>18876334 >>18876777 >>18878083 Please guys do not try to convince the blind, don't forget we would still need people to buy overpriced bags in a year or two

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 13:20:37 2020 No.18885519 >>18876235 Yes indeed t.first and proud thread baker

Anonymous Tue May 5 13:21:45 2020 No.18885539

>>18885324
Kek, no.
You know the first linkie dump of sergey you could say
>ok, the man did a great job he wants to live the life a little. So he dumped 12 million tokens and netted 30 million buck, so what let him enjoy his burgers.

But now the second linkie dump is underway.
There is a possibility now that they want to abandon ship desu. No way they burned through the 30 Million already.

Meanwhile fuhrer Lohwasser only assign 3% of the tokens to him and his team. That's just 1/10th really. 30% of the tokens stay owned by Lition AG with which he wants to generate a stable income through staking to sustain the company. He obviously holds shares in that company and in Lition.de. The way he (and Kyung) are set up makes me far more comfortable that they are not in it to make a quick pump and dump but to generate a sustainable business with sustainable income.
LINK is still fucking vaporware.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 13:22:30 2020 No.18885561 >>18885492 That's what reddit, german cryptotwitter and ecohippies are for.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 13:27:48 2020 No.18885652 >>18883447 404 boyo

Anonymous Tue May 5 13:31:40 2020 No.18885716
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>>18876235
>>18885519
Kids please, I've been making /LITGEN/ threads since you were in diapers. I'll name it whatever I want. /lg/ gives me the virgin vibes. At least capitalize it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 13:46:28 2020 No.18886041 File: 540 KB, 426x240, 1588697310715.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18884925 Everything is going to be alright anon

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