Im sick and tired of wageslaving

[Anonymous No.18838171]

>graduateing 2019 with engineering degree
>make 100k gross
>paid off all my debt and have saved up about 50k through frugal living
>want out

i hate working for someone about work i really dont care about. engineering is boring as hell. I am thinking of going back to school for medicine. is this a good idea or is it too late? i always to maybe start a business but i feel like i dont have enough capital for that

[Anonymous No.18838177]

become an entrepreneur OP. be your own boss

[Anonymous No.18838213]

>>18838171
>I am thinking of going back to school for medicine. is this a good idea

it's definitely a terrible idea.

[Anonymous No.18838272]

>>18838171
And how will getting MD/DO change things. You're going to be in a glorified customer service industry, where the client base is sick dudes. Or if u salary in a lab, you prob wont be netting enough to recover your massive debt.

[Anonymous No.18838286]

Tolerate it and save until 500k. Then you will probably be set to life. Be smart about property and buy appreciating assets.

[Anonymous No.18838440]

>>18838272
>And how will getting MD/DO change things.
you have the ability to prescribe medicine. No one can do that except a doctor. you also gain the knowledge of human body and can probably save a life of extremely wealthy person if youre the only one who can do a procedure well enough. I also think doctors can easily get into politics, teaching, starting their own business etc. most are just retards who go in directly after college and their rich parents pay for everything

[Anonymous No.18838467]

>>18838171
join an engineering consulting firm, work your ass off and learn everything you can for 3-5 years, then quit and start your own consulting business. professional services are by far the most lucrative businesses because your overhead costs are low and your hourly rate is high as fuck if you're good.

[Anonymous No.18838468]

>>18838286
>Tolerate it and save until 500k
thats 10 years. i can be a surgeon in 10 years and make 500k a year. why not do med school (maybe find a wife there), and invest my current 50k in a house where i charge rent to other students

[Anonymous No.18838481]

>>18838440
>he doesn't know about nurse practitioners
>he doesn't know that he's still ruled by hospital executive jews with MBAs
>he doesn't know what a press ganey score is
>he doesn't know that most people aren't worth saving

don't go to medical school you utterly moronic nigger

[Anonymous No.18838484]

>>18838440
Or a nurse practitioner, or just don't give a fuck and direct people to pajeet internet pharmacy that doest need rx and costs 1/4 as much. Medical has a few benefits but it's soul crushing work, helping stupid evil people and all you get in return is being called an asshole for not giving 30mg dilaudid for a stubbed toe. 99% of sick people brought it on themselves and deserve to suffer. The other 1% are just a combination of stupid and unlucky.

[Anonymous No.18838488]

>>18838467
>join an engineering consulting firm
i work for one right now. i think i get paid ok right now being that i dont do anything. im smarter than some of the senior consultants, i just really dont give a shit about designing pipelines. i got my degree because i was poor as fuck and thought id be happy with a 100k job. turns out im not

[Anonymous No.18838492]

>>18838440
Nurse practitioners, dentists, etc can prescribe medicine relevant to their fields

[Anonymous No.18838497]

>>18838171
how have you paid off all your student loans and saved that much if you have only been working for a year, if that?

[Anonymous No.18838500]

>>18838171
Here in Italy the average wage is 24k euros gross. I wonder how you can be unhappy with your wage.
Also help me out

[Anonymous No.18838518]

>engineer

work for yourself?

[Anonymous No.18838530]

>>18838440
>can probably save a life of extremely wealthy person

Or fuck up and get hit with malpractice. Or not even fuck up and still get hit with malpractice

You can get into politics, teaching, start business as an engineer too.

WHy are you only looking at the shiny rainbows?

Anyway, good luck on your endeavors

[Anonymous No.18838547]

>>18838481
i know about all those things. i just think id be a good doctor and its a job id be happy in because i love biology. i just didnt do it because i wanted to make money earlier so i did engineering.

i think the cool thing about being a doctor is you have this skill that is always in demand. Every town NEEDS doctors. I can see myself treating patients after 65 even if im working part time. i cant see myself being a consultant for corporations after 65

[Anonymous No.18838557]

>>18838500
I've been working since 2010, 2 years without job. Now I MUST be happy with my 1500€ net wage. My gf has lost her new job because coronacha. We are currently living in the house of my dead grandparents.
I as a fucking fool decided to start trading exactly at the beginning of this fucking depression, put 2000€ lost 300€.
Feel like shit, I am never doing anything. Getting out of Italy is not an option be ause of sick old parents. I believe I have good business ideas but 0 euros to invest. Wage slave to the death

[Anonymous No.18838567]

>>18838171
When you're a little older you'll stop wanting people up your butt enough to start making your own choices and setting limits for yourself. Until then you're someones cute little wagecucky ^_^

[Anonymous No.18838573]

>>18838171
I work in a medical field and and I feel the same way. Your ideas of what medicine is like are completely wrong, btw.

I make good money though, and I'm not a consoomer. So I've just been pumping excess funds into crypto. If shit hits the fan, oh well, I still make good money. If it moons, then I can retire early or work part time or something like that.

The point I'm making is that the grass is always greener on the other side, blah blah blah.

[Anonymous No.18838578]

>>18838484
fair points but i kind of just want the degree for the knowledge and skillset. i think if i dont like practicing it, just the title of MD is valuable on its own and can be marketed very well.

[Anonymous No.18838595]

>>18838497
i interned before and had some scholarships. i have been working for almost a year. after taxes my take home is like 70k. so yeah i spent like 15k on rent, food, etc. could be better i guess

[Anonymous No.18838600]

>>18838578
Not really, no. Unless you're practicing medicine or writing a book about medicine an MD is useless. You might be dumb though, so idk, go for it.

[Anonymous No.18838605]

>>18838518
i cant. i really dont know shit. i get paid to do excel shit

[Anonymous No.18838614]

>>18838468
Do you realize how expensive medical school is? then factor in many years of residency where you'll be making next-to-nothing, and even then, good fucking luck getting that 500k/yr surgery job you think would just drop into your lap.

Most MDs don't even break even until they're like 50 years old, and that's probably assuming they took a normal pathway rather than already having a different career and then going back to school to start from square one.

[Anonymous No.18838647]

>>18838547
medicine and biology are two different fields. i was actually a medical student in the US. i majored in math, almost had a minor in biology. wanted to be a doctor because i really enjoyed bio classes, especially cellular/molecular bio. turns out that medical school is just memorizing pages out of a fucking textbook at breakneck speeds. (i remember one our biochemistry/molecular biology exams was based on 2000 powerpoint slides we covered in about 4 weeks of class.) it was fucking awful and i hated it, so i quit.

[Anonymous No.18838653]

>>18838614
they do get to fuck as many nurses as they want though

[Anonymous No.18838656]

>>18838500
i dunno, i never spent a lot of money. been poor most of my life as a kid. i still live a frugal life. like even if im broke and doing something i like, i feel like id be happy. i just dont like my job i guess

[Anonymous No.18838676]

>>18838171
>graduated high school
>Sit at home playing vidya
>find out about crypto
>buy BTC
>sell eventually all in LINK
Currently have 140k LINK you mad wagie?

[Anonymous No.18838686]

>>18838171
Medicine is way too much effort. Just become a NEET & flip shitcoins, it's far more rewarding as a career.

[Anonymous No.18838687]

>>18838530
>Or fuck up and get hit with malpractice. Or not even fuck up and still get hit with malpractice
hosptials cover this
and if you work for yourself, you get malpractice insurance

>You can get into politics, teaching, start business as an engineer too.
teaching, and start a business yes. but i dont really talk to anyone except people at work. A doctor talks to a lot of people in a town and hence is creating social capital. they are also held to higher regard in society because they are seen as heros by normies. especailly after this pandemic. fucking dermatologists are getting back pats

[Anonymous No.18838688]

>>18838605
This is what pisses me off the most about engineering, they don't really teach you anything. They waste 4 years of your life with math and at the end they say "here's a program that does all the math for you and it turns out employers only care about your skill with the program and not your math skills, good luck!"

[Anonymous No.18838701]

>>18838653
have fun with the hospital's HR department after her opinion of you inevitably sours for one reason or another, and your fling gets rewritten into a case of sexual harassment

[Anonymous No.18838712]

>>18838647
hey you got a discord or something. would love to talk with you about a few things regarding your experience. yeah i know its more about brute memorization in medical school though. have a couple friends in med school. one got into langone (NYU) and its really cozy for him.

one thing about medicine that i also find really appealing is the job security. i feel like nothing is more secure than medicine in that regard

[Anonymous No.18838718]

>>18838676
Absolutely based.

>>18838653
Oh wow, you can fuck aging whores just as they hit the wall & need to feed Tyrones baby. Amazing.

[Anonymous No.18838751]

>>18838557
this is why I hate italians

[Anonymous No.18838753]

>>18838557
how do you have a gf if youre broke?
i feel like i cant ask out anyone if i dont have money to support them and quite frankly i dont spend a lot on myself so i dont see myself spending on anyone else until i have a networth of at least 500k

[Anonymous No.18838776]

>>18838578
I won't discourage any further. If you're serious get it touch with the hospital and shadow for a few shifts and get a feel for things. Some people like it, I think. Just know what you are getting into here.

[Anonymous No.18838789]

>>18838600
i dont think you have a clue about how easy it is to make money off asian and indian kids who want to be doctors. you generate a lot of social capital with MD. most docs are just not very financially literate because they can afford not to be

[Anonymous No.18838805]

>>18838688
yeah literally anyone could do my job. i dont remember jack shit from school. i lead a lot of clubs and orgs though so i have "management skills"

[Anonymous No.18838817]

>>18838789
Sounds like a pretty dumb and boring career. But if that's the best you can come up for it with an engineering degree and some engineering shit on your resume no one's gonna stop you.

[Anonymous No.18838861]

>>18838614
yeah its under 300k (not really a lot of money). The average house in my town costs more.
Im perfectly fine making next to nothing because ive literally been poor most of my lfe and i still live frugally like that. most MDs are financially illiterate. There should be NO reason why a doctor doesnt have 1 million dollars saved/invested by 40 in america. (exception started late). even if the salary is 300k, its globally secure profession and you have an invaluable skillset and a lot of social capital. it also seems kind of fun. i shadowed before and have friends who are in shcool/residency

[Anonymous No.18838875]

>>18838751
t. Nigger

[Anonymous No.18838889]

>>18838861
You sound low IQ from your posts, and you're going to get burned. More power to you though. You're going to be in for a rude awakening though when you find out your job is 95% paperwork. Also you're still not getting that surgeon job you want, lmao.

[Anonymous No.18838895]

>>18838861
Did you already do premed requirements? If so, then there isn't any big obstacle for you to apply except MCAT. What's your GPA?

[Anonymous No.18838929]

>>18838440

I'm in the medical field making 80k and I want out. Its really just hell and I don't care about this job anymore either. The grass is always greener.

Changing job careers wont matter if you're just another cog in the wheel.

I'm 28 now but I've come to realize people are miserable at every stage when they realize they are making someone else even more money than you're making for yourself. Rich dad poor dad anon, make your own wealth.

[Anonymous No.18838936]

>>18838817
i mean i want to think of business ideas but everything is so fucking expensive to start except something like a software company. My plan was to take the mcat and apply for med school and then get a house near the hospital and charge rent to med students and a permanent cashflowing property. i found out doctors can refinance their loans down to near 1% after finishing school so using loan money on real estate seems kind of neat.

[Anonymous No.18838956]

>>18838889
It's not 95% paperwork but it is so much paperwork that only people who are dumb enough to reallllllllly just want to be a doctor can actually do it forever. I'm sure they weed most of the burnouts out in school.
Medicine is that kind of career, you sorta need to be a good little champ who just wants to help out to make it your thing forever.

[Anonymous No.18838967]

>>18838956
Agreed, and basically the point I'm trying to make. It's why OP is making a massive mistake with his "uh, I don't like my job, idk lol I think I'll be a surgeon that sounds cool" attitude. He's going to get filtered hard.

[Anonymous No.18838985]

>>18838895
yeah i took all the courses, they were easy as fuck. i have a 3.8 cgpa and 3.91 science (bcpm). i just need to take the mcat. i have 5 letters of rec, shadowed, did research all that bullshit.

i know i seem like a retard in this thread but i know everything about getting into med school. i just bailed because i thought i would be wasting my 20s. i realize im prob just going to be wagesalving my 20s anyway kissing some exec's ass to hope for promotions until i get 200k/yr. might as well go into med and grind for 10 years for 200-300k.

[Anonymous No.18839001]

>>18838929
You don't sound like you're a doctor. Why should OP listen to you?

>>18838936
>>18838861
You would be wrong to try to go become a doctor if you wanted to make a shit ton of money without doing anything like most people on this board. You seem like you want to escape the death trap of white collar management and want an interesting career and are also intrigued in all the possibilities it can open. If you want an interesting life more than anything anon, then you should go for it. Doctors and Spec Ops are the only interesting professions still remaining, except for "entrepreneurs," but you clearly don't want to actually hustle for money if you think 50k isn't enough to start a business. If you really wanted to make money, you would already have a side hustle besides your salary position.

[Anonymous No.18839005]

>>18838861
>even if the salary is 300k

you might want to look into how much money doctors actually make. you can't just say "i want to be an orthopedic surgeon" or whatever, the higher paying specialties are very competitive. and unlike your brainlet STEM undergrad, you're not competing against morons at Bongrip State University, you're competing against no-life pajeets and changs who study 24/7. most doctors go into primary care specialties (family med, internal medicine, pediatrics) where the average salary is about $200k.

[Anonymous No.18839019]

>>18838929
>I'm in the medical field making 80k and I want out.
well if thats your capped salary, then yeah thats fucking shit.
a doctors capped salary is like 500k.

[Anonymous No.18839038]

>>18838967
not really. i went to college thinking id be a doctor. i did all the courses and shit. i actually did better in my premed classes than engineering courses. i did both so my options would be open. i went with engineering because i thought 100k was a lot of money

[Anonymous No.18839050]

>>18839001
>if you wanted to make a shit ton of money
i dont really care about money that much although i think purchasing power and job security are great.

[Anonymous No.18839069]

>>18838956
>Medicine is that kind of career, you sorta need to be a good little champ who just wants to help out to make it your thing forever.
This is very true. It's very sad where field is now. It's extremely pozzed now and the only gems remaining are the old white doctors. The young doctors are absolute retards and vast majority of them are empty headed woman too.

I'm still very much on the fence on applying myself. I have a perfect MCAT score, tons of research and know more about medicine than some residents from all the books I've read and studied, but I absolutely hate many of the people in the field now.

[Anonymous No.18839085]

>>18839050
>i dont really care about money that much although i think purchasing power and job security are great.
I recognized that about you anon, did you not finish reading the rest of my statement? If you don't actually care about making a shit ton of money, then go for it faggot.

[Anonymous No.18839116]

>>18839005
i dont think you know anything about medicine or how competitive the procedure is or my educational background and experiences. I know for a fact I will get into a top 50 school if i applied this cycle. im just tired so i made this thread very lazy. I know the deans of a good number of med schools in my area and they all said i was a competitive candidate when i showed them my premed resume when i was thinking about applying junior year. i just need an mcat of about 518+ and ill get in. and its not that hard to compete against med students who think theyre set for life once they got their acceptance letter. maybe youre projecting your low iq. i have friends who are all much dumber than me, killing it in med school.

primary care seems trash but you need to realize every doctor makes a lot more than reported and many hide how much they really make a year from bonuses and conferences etc because they know the public will gut them

[Anonymous No.18839121]

>>18838171
ride it out for a few years and save your first mil
use it to make more

[Anonymous No.18839125]

>>18838177
>Just risk all your life savings on a meme startup bro!
>Just forget that 9 out of 10 startups fail bro!
>Be an entrepreneur bro!

[Anonymous No.18839148]

>>18839125
kek

[Anonymous No.18839162]

>>18839069
>but I absolutely hate many of the people in the field now.
yeah i agree with this. it is a whole lot of ass kissing. i think with becoming a doctor you kiss a lot of ass for 10-15 years and youre set. with other jobs youre kind of kissing ass till retirement

[Anonymous No.18839164]

>>18838753
he got a squatter gf with la casa dei nonni morti

[Anonymous No.18839171]

>>18838861
>its globally secure profession
Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Each country has its own unique and ass-backwards licensing system for doctors. Did you know that a doctor from the EU can't just come into the US and practice immediately? They have to spends thousands of dollars on degree recognition companies and exams, not to mention all that time wasted waiting for that shit to go through

[Anonymous No.18839182]

>>18838557
Se mi dici le tue idee ti do io il capitale

[Anonymous No.18839186]

>>18839116
>>18838647
i do because i am this guy, nigger. don't be surprised when your projected high MCAT score (lol) and high GPA don't correlate with high USMLE scores. it's a lot fucking different than undergrad, you will learn that much very quickly.

[Anonymous No.18839199]

>>18838500
But you work on the side to avoid taxes. Still complaining like the monkey people you are.

[Anonymous No.18839218]

>just hold your vanguard for 40 years bro

>>18838286
>have illness
>lose all of your saving

[Anonymous No.18839220]

>>18839186
What are you doing now for work anon?

[Anonymous No.18839226]

>>18839038
your undergrad experience doesn't mean shit. You sound like you have no clue what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.18839234]

>i dont really care about money that much although i think purchasing power and job security are great.
>i went with engineering because i thought 100k was a lot of money

U need to set your goal first. Just don't doit it because excel monkey ghey.

Like others suggest, make sure you're ready to take the step. Cuz once you take that step, it's a long and arduous journey in med school, and after

[Anonymous No.18839237]

>>18839220
got a masters in accounting and now i work as an accountant. living the wagie dream. if i could do it all over again i would have gone way back in time and studied mechanical or chemical engineering, or maybe computer science.

[Anonymous No.18839239]

>>18839069
>The young doctors are absolute retards and vast majority of them are empty headed woman too.
wanted to reply to this too.
yes 99.999% of young doctors are the ones who bullshit their way into med school pretending they werent in it for that money and dropped all hobbies and fake talents they had as soon as they got their acceptance letter. they spend all their time talking about how they sacrificed their 20s studying when in reality they dont study more than 4-5 hours max a day (most of my friends say med school is less time consuming than undergrad since they dont need to do all the bullshit volunteering/research). theyre all kind of pathetic phony human beings which kind of played a part in deterring me away from med school. even my friends who got in, they all faked everything. its really not that hard to get a high gpa when your hardest class in your major is organic chemistry

[Anonymous No.18839245]

>>18839182
Si può fare ma chi mi dice che hai i soldi e le competenze

[Anonymous No.18839260]

>>18839199
I pay taxes regularly don't worry negro

[Anonymous No.18839267]

>>18839234
>Cuz once you take that step, it's a long and arduous journey in med school, and after

no one ever talks about how there's a "point of no return" after your second year of medical school. average cost of medical school with room and board is something like $50k/yr, potentially much higher if you go to a private school. after two years you're $100k in debt minimum, plus undergrad, for an education that is essentially worthless unless you slog through another 2 years of school plus internship at a minimum. you're trapped. drop out and you're stuck paying off $100k in loans with no return on that investment.

[Anonymous No.18839272]

>>18838753
I had the same mindset as you, but then I realised girls don't care about your net worth when you're 19 or 22, because they just want to hop on dick and then go shop shitty things at the cheapest clothes store, life is that simple for them

[Anonymous No.18839273]

>>18839186
yeah i didnt go to a dipshit undergrad. my friends go to icahn and langone and say med school is a lot easier than our undergrad so i think ill take their word for it.

i know a lot of people went to easy undergrads where they curved your 40 in orgo 1 and 2 to an A so you never learned shit but memorization is pretty easy. my friend who was shit in bio 1 and 2 because of memorization.

Also not sure if you heard but step 1 is pass fail now. so residency mostly just depends on if you can get into a decent school, which i know i can.

[Anonymous No.18839297]

>>18839237
I did chemical engineering why the fuck would you want to do that lmao.i guess i could work in saudi for 300k in 4 years...

[Anonymous No.18839317]

>>18839069
They're just going to laugh at you until you quit if you dont have a bunch of threeways so good luck.

[Anonymous No.18839328]

>>18839218
>40 years
Bullshit. Here's the 10 year performance of the S&P 500 Vanguard fund with a monthly contribution of 5500 (inflation adjusted). You can become a millionaire in 10 years, not 40.
I don't understand why people shit on Vanguard all the time.

[Anonymous No.18839342]

>>18839234
yeah i really do appreciate the advice given. just a bit sleepy. i have looked mainly into med. i would plan on applying next cycle anyway (2021). would also wait another year after i get accepted. so in the meantime i figure id learn a language or get better at coding and continue wageslaving for a different company and continue saving.

its just a thought.

[Anonymous No.18839358]

>>18839328
>Here's the 10 year performance
the last 10 years was one of the greatest bullruns in american history with the market averaging 14 percent.

[Anonymous No.18839367]

>>18839297
because i'm autistic and i like math, pumps, heat transfer, reaction kinetics, etc. i'm an amateur chemist in my spare time. scaling it up on a massive scale sounds fun.

[Anonymous No.18839370]

>>18839317
>threeways
You think I care anon? I'm ashamed at myself for ever engaging in vapid hookups in my undergrad. I won't let them bewitch me again. I sincerely only care about obtaining enough money so I can pursue my own medical research one day. I'm still unsure if going to medical school is actually the right way to achieve this goal of mine. It probably isn't, but it makes the road I want to pursue all the more risky.

[Anonymous No.18839384]

>>18839370
I'm just letting you know that's actually what people who work in medicine do with eachother.

[Anonymous No.18839401]

DO NOT enter Med school. Being a doctor is a meme. All your passion to be a glorified healer will turn to dust once you treat actual patients. You will lose faith in humanity especially there's hierarchy all the way to the top. Consultants will breathe down the neck of specialist, and specialist breathing down onto medical officers. And patients are the worse as they expect you to do everything and when you fail so, BAM! malpractice lawsuit, and compliants. Furthermore unless you want to study for the rest of your life and get shit on to all the stages to be a consultant, be that.
Oh yea, and the pay is not equivalent to the efforts you put in.
Source: am a glorified shithead physician

[Anonymous No.18839418]

>>18838171
Don't be a retard, MD here and it's not worth the trouble. I'd be out as soon as my shitcoins moon

[Anonymous No.18839431]

>>18839401
Yeah this is true also, even if you spend your entire career just trying to do good you're instantly demonized the moment there's a dispute and it can even something that 100% wasn't your fault.

[Anonymous No.18839450]

>>18839358
Here's the 10 year performance of the SPY from 1993 to 2003, with the same $5500 monthly contributions (adjusted for inflation for 1993). The final amount at 2003 is $531,000 which in today's dollars is $750,000
It may not be a million, but it's still a good fund to retire off of.
Additionally, since I used SPY for this, this visualization doesn't reinvest dividends. It could be even better than this.

[Anonymous No.18839484]

>>18839401
>Being a doctor is a meme
>>18839418
>MD here and it's not worth the trouble
Then what would you do instead frens?

[Anonymous No.18839525]

>>18839418
medfag seconding this. I want out. Fuck these boomers

[Anonymous No.18839550]

>>18839038
>100K
hahaha nigger let me tell you about Radiology

[Anonymous No.18839572]

>>18838171
5 more years bro, trust me it'll be worth it
invest or you'll regret it

[Anonymous No.18839576]

>>18838985
>200-300k
Look, it's 100% clear that you don't care about life and just want to make money. If you didn't just care about money, you wouldn't spend all your time here talking about ridiculously large salaries and dreaming about being moved to Saudi Arabia to work for $300k. Why the fuck don't you start planning to work in a bank or a fund company? Why don't you go and work at Wall St.?
>>18839484
>Then what would you do instead frens?
I don't know..... find something you like doing??? Life isn't just about money. Financial independence is nice, but you have to look at the bigger picture. Suppose you retire at 35. What the fuck are you going to do for the next 55 years? If you don't have a career and just plan to be a NEET for 55 years I fucking guarantee you that you will commit suicide by your early 40s. If you don't want to have a family (90% of people here on 4chan) you will drive yourself insane.

[Anonymous No.18839600]

>>18839550
>idolizing high paying specialties

you might want to learn a thing or two about how physician compensation works. private insurance follows the trends of medicare/medicaid reimbursement, and just like that, in the stroke of a pen, your salary can be slashed to the bone by some faggot politician. https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Medicare-Fee-for-Service-Payment/PhysicianFeeSched

[Anonymous No.18839601]

>>18839576
You stupid nigger, you're not a doctor and I wasn't talking to you. I asked what these faggots would do instead of going to medicine, not to decide for me.

[Anonymous No.18839614]

>>18839450
>spend your youth studyceling some high paying job
>in the small chance you end up making al ot of money spend your time living with mom spending your wage on stonks
>by the time you are done you are bald and your prime is over (inb4 men age like wine)
>implying past performance guarantees future returns anyway

[Anonymous No.18839628]

The truth is life sucks and gets progressively worse

[Anonymous No.18839637]

>>18839484
>Then what would you do instead frens?
all jobs are bullshit except making money online doing something that its not too tiresome

[Anonymous No.18839644]

>>18839484
I mean if you have a degree and make stable income you could invest in boomer stocks or crypto degeneracy. Accept that most boils down to boring shit most of the time. I mean I love what I do (ophthalmology) but somewhere down the road this became just a means to a end (early retirement). You being in a country with better income than mine could get there a bit faster

[Anonymous No.18839696]

>>18839614
>spend your youth studyceling some high paying job
>by the time you are done you are bald and your prime is over (inb4 men age like wine)
What do you want to do with your youth instead? Tell me something better than investing in your future life. inb4 spend your money on drugs and whores and yachts
>in the small chance you end up making al ot of money spend your time living with mom spending your wage on stonks
>implying past performance guarantees future returns anyway
Small chance? Past performance guarantees future returns? What are you going on about? If the S&P 500 doesn't return money at a minimum of 5% average this country will collapse. Do you even know how many pension funds and boomers are relying on this shit? The S&P will always return money, the Fed will print trillions and the government will pass any law necessary to ensure it always returns money.

[Anonymous No.18839733]

>>18839614
>(inb4 men age like wine)

[Anonymous No.18839807]

>>18839116
I’m not a medical doctor but I am a dentist and I have a gf who is going into med school this fall. I have quite a few patients who are MDs and I spent some time in hospitals during dental school. Based on your posts, you’re going to be super successful as a doctor as long as you’re prepared for the red tape and the changing world of medicine. Your autonomy will be severely limited unless you’re in plastics, derm, or similar HIGHLY competitive specialty (remember you’re competing with literal prodigies in this field). You might want to consider dental based on your background honestly. It has its shitty aspects but you should at least know what it’s all about. I know plenty of dentists making 500k and some very successful ones doing $1M+. Kik me with questions yikyak1989

[Anonymous No.18839835]

>>18839807
>Kik me with questions yikyak1989
Who uses kik lol

Why do you think he'd want to consider dental with his background?

>you’re competing with literal prodigies in this field
can people elaborate on this? this seems like a meme from what i've seen

[Anonymous No.18839871]

>>18839807
based. dental is a great field if you can deal with mouths all day. costs don't seem that bad considering anyone can open a dental practice in a shitty strip mall.

[Anonymous No.18839874]

>>18838171
Stay where you are. If you worked for me you would hate it even more. I am not a nice guy.

[Anonymous No.18839906]

>>18838171
And I'm sick and tired of whining faggots like you who expect to coast in life. Kill yourself then because the odds of you getting rich quick are neigh zero with your faggy depressed outlook on life.

[Anonymous No.18839939]

>>18838171
You have the opportunity to save up at least 100k before you turn 30, do you know how privileged of a position you are in? How many people do you really think are able to go balls deep on their dream passion or simply search for it while they are still in their twenties with 100k in the bank?

Start a business

[Anonymous No.18840000]

ur a fag

[Anonymous No.18840104]

>>18838213
This. Healthcare really really sucks. Have you worked with all boomer women before, OP? It's absolutely miserable

[Anonymous No.18840154]

>>18838468
Dude, you are making a mistake.

You know why surgeons and other doctors are paid so high? They have no lives. They get calls at all times of day and night asking them to come in or authorize a prescription. You will be on call for days at a time. You will literally have to do surgeries after going 72 hours without sleep. Not kidding or exaggerating. There is a massive doctor shortage, you WILL be overworked

[Anonymous No.18840173]

>>18838547
Working in healthcare has NOTHING to do with biology. It's a job that revolves around workplace politics, and whose good graces you are in at any given time. It's HEAVY on social politics. I promise you, you will be more miserable

[Anonymous No.18840179]

>>18840154
>There is a massive doctor shortage,
That's because AAMC artificially lowers the amount of people who can go to med school

[Anonymous No.18840253]

>>18838171
Similar situation OP, I’m just a few months behind you, I’m sticking it out till I pay my loans and a year or two after that. In the meantime I’m learning about business owning and proper investing so I can do those full time and quit wageslavery.

[Anonymous No.18840291]

>>18840179
It's the primary driver of healthcare costs

Still though, I don't believe doctors are paid enough. They seem like soulless husks of human beings. They have no social lives, they never get sleep. I couldn't imagine building a family, or hell, even being able to devote time to building a marriage, while being a doctor, unless you specialize. Radiology seems pretty great (you have a set schedule, no being called in, or expected to write rx's)

[Anonymous No.18840314]

>>18839367
hmm i guess grass is greener. im sick and tired of designing pumps and reactors for these oil companies. i agree it would be fun if i were doing it myself but you need a lot of capital to start your own plant

[Anonymous No.18840324]

>>18839450
>It may not be a million, but it's still a good fund to retire off of.
im sorry to break the news but a million dollars is not enough to retire on

[Anonymous No.18840353]

>>18839431
>even if you spend your entire career just trying to do good you're instantly demonized
you do good regardless of what others think imo

[Anonymous No.18840420]

>>18838171
> I am sick of wageslaving
Well man, you need to be good or have skills or both. Even here.
Nobody is just gonna give u shit.

[Anonymous No.18840426]

>>18839807
i would but i dont give a shit about my own mouth enough to care about others.

[Anonymous No.18840438]

>>18839939
yeah what kind of business. 100k can burn real quick. i can probably have 100k saved up by next year

[Anonymous No.18840442]

>>18838440
wow you are so ignorant of reality

[Anonymous No.18840461]

>>18840154
>There is a massive doctor shortage, you WILL be overworked
so i can choose to work parttime and do less procedures and still get paid a lot of money because very few people have my skills?

dont fall for the bullshit doctors tell you. they work long hours because they WANT to work long hours because theyre getting paid 300 an hour

[Anonymous No.18840494]

>>18838605
Same. Engineer bro here. I dont know shit other than how to solve a few calculus problems and do simple shit in solidworks

[Anonymous No.18840506]

>>18840291
yeah it seems like youve been talking to a lot of bitchy doctors bitching about how they dont have gold trimmings on their porche and hence cant feed their kids caviar anymore. its true they dont have social lives. but who really does? we're on an anime based business board.

>sometimes we work 50-60 hours a week
you mean like the janitor of the hospital?

seriously doctors are just whiny pieces of shit businessmen pretending to be altruistic

[Anonymous No.18840525]

>>18840506
I work in a hospital. I interact with doctors every day.

[Anonymous No.18840529]

>>18840494
lmao college was a joke wasnt it. we coudlve graduated in 2 years

[Anonymous No.18840615]

>>18838688
If that was your takeaway from engineering then you probably wont make it.

[Anonymous No.18840641]

Stranger things that eternally lie? Stranger aeons of hallucination! Ah!

[Anonymous No.18840682]

>>18838753
If you need money to get girls you're a loser.

[Anonymous No.18840700]

>>18838171
Whats your education
Looking for biztards for my company board

[Anonymous No.18840708]

>>18840700
>Looking for biztards for my company board
Your company already failed

[Anonymous No.18840770]

>>18840682
i dont think you need money to get girls.
i think dating is like an interview process for marriage/kids. i think you need to have money if you have a wife and kids. there is no reason to pursue women if you see a future with them. youre just wasting yours and her time.

[Anonymous No.18841042]

>>18838171
What engineering? There are many options for engineers if you want to create your own business. Invent something people buy, can be anything from a new type of cooking pot, carpenters tool, drone or whatever. Use internet-based marketing via your own youtube etc to market it, give samples to "influencers" etc.

Engineering has never had as many options as it does now in how to get stuff built. Marketing has never been cheaper. Put in the effort to do it yourself, or give in to mediocrity and wageslave. Med school isn't easier, you will end up in the same spot once you are finished with that as your current situation.

[Anonymous No.18841131]

>>18839125
Who the fuck said anything about startups there? You think being entrepreneur always means being hypegrowth vulture capitalists' bitch?

[Anonymous No.18841192]

Buy LIT, stake, come back in a year, quit your job. Legit this shit will make you rich, opportunities like this happen once every couple of years

[Anonymous No.18841310]

Listen OP, the working world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place and wageslaving will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as waging away. But it ain’t how how much you work; it’s about how much you can work overtime, and keep moving forward. How many hours you can take, and keep moving forward. That’s how wageslaving is done. Now, if you know what you’re worth, then go out and get what you’re worth. But you gotta be willing to take the overtime or second job, and not pointing fingers saying you ain’t where you are because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that and that ain’t you. You’re better than that! Now get back to work, wagie!

[Anonymous No.18841323]

>>18841192
bullshit. never believe anyone on /biz/ who mentions an actual coin.. you are full of shit nigger

[Anonymous No.18841403]

>>18838488
coming back to this post. if you're greedy and want more money use your SUPERIOR ENGINEERING MIND to think this through. they're paying you $100k/yr. imagine how much money they make off your labor. estimate your marign. now imagine starting your own consulting business. mr. shekelstein won't be getting 70% of your $200/hour bill rate.

[Anonymous No.18841570]

>>18839733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5OAc8_Boh8

cope

[Anonymous No.18841595]

>>18839696
>What do you want to do with your youth instead?

Be good looking or at least cope with making money online not wagecucking

[Anonymous No.18841598]

>>18838171

If you already saved that much, I would stick with wageslaving for a while longer.

[Anonymous No.18841813]

>>18839328
How the fuck is a wagie supposed to invest $5,500 a month?

[Anonymous No.18841839]

>>18841310
fucking lmfao

[Anonymous No.18842165]

>>18839450
use portfolio visualizer and don't adjust for inflation on 4chan, the posters on here are too peanut brained

[Anonymous No.18842190]

>>18838500
Yeah but you have a laid back way of life and the most beautiful women in the world. I would rather be a poor med Chad than an overworked American wagecuck

[Anonymous No.18842216]

>>18840324
yes it is

[Anonymous No.18842248]

>>18839328
>just invest 66,000 dollars a year and in 10 years you will become a millionaire - it’s literally FREE MONEY
I hope you were trolling

[Anonymous No.18842340]

>>18838171
Start your own business; start first looking for possible clients and what you can offer for them
>>18839125
>startup is the only form of entrepreneurship
Utter state of this retard
>>18841131
This.

[Anonymous No.18842382]

>>18839614
this is how street shitters who put all their hopes in crypto cope

[Anonymous No.18842410]

>>18839125
>Just risk all your life savings bro!

[Anonymous No.18843232]

>>18842410
base

[Anonymous No.18843308]

>>18838171
I'm so glad I figured this out before going to college
>I'm thinking about going back to college to become a med student
Fucking terrible idea. Stop wasting your time in college, retard. You will hate it just as much as engineering and you will have even more debt over your head with more wasted time. Don't waste your entire youth pursuing college when you clearly don't want a job that college requires. Become an entrepreneur.

[Anonymous No.18843333]

>>18838573
Crypto is retarded. Invest in property and become a landlord. Buy enough property so that you have enough income each month where you can become a perma neet.