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Biz help a brainlet our.
Despite literal trillions of money printed, dollar SOARED in strength. I understand that this is because suddenly every other currency is declared a shitcoin and people are reaching for real money aka greenback (and gold/crypto for financially literate I suppose).

So my question is, what happens next to world economies after strong dollar?
To my mind It looks like USA is printing and propping up own economy at the expense of everyone else, basically sucking real capital into own economy.
I live in second world country - Russia, what would happen to rouble in your opinion?

>> No.18829245

Nobody knows. Were in uncharted territory

>> No.18829248

do you admire the man who figured out a loophole that allowed for his success /biz/? or do you hate him for playing the game smarter than you would?

>> No.18829272

>>18829245
I’m not asking about this specific shutdown situation, more like what happens when reserve currency gets (hyper)deflation

>> No.18829289

>>18829248
i believe that particular trans freak is a FtM, so a chick on steroids

>> No.18829307

Inside money (the money created by the banking system) decreased
Pls study thr monetary system and not the /pol / ron paul bullshit

>> No.18829312

>>18829272
>hyperdeflation
only in assets

>> No.18829318

Merica is getting fattened up for the GREAT FEAST. mmm yummy. Mexicans

>> No.18829324

And also the demand for cash increased due to uncertainity

>> No.18829347

>>18829172
Usd has natural capital flight in times of turmoil. It is helpful in the short term but when it goes back to normal they'll have to send some usd to the burner or deal with inflation. Rouble will go down relative to USD. But it will appreciate against shit tier shitcoin

>> No.18829352

>>18829289

>FtM

bro that’s, unironically, a man. look at the bone structure in his face.
he saw an opportunity, told the judges he identified as a woman knowing they couldn’t say shit without causing a pr shitstorm and now he gets to wreck shit. you’d have to be on hella T for a long time for it to start changing your features that drastically

>> No.18829354

>>18829172
Don't make a mistake, ruskie. The dollar is going to crash as soon as the US is re opened. As soon as those brrrrd dollars gain some speed the US will look like stalinsgrad in 1942

>> No.18829357

>>18829307
How so? Haven’t fed printed trillions of cash and injected (is injecting) them into American companies?

I am not into pol at all

>> No.18829385

Wedding(AI+CRYPTO)
Feast(unessentials)
of the lamb(New Generation)

>> No.18829392

>>18829172
A strong dollar is bad for the US on an international trade level. We will get fucked on trade, which will cause the economy to slow down, which will cause the dollar to weaken, which will improve the economy, etc.,
These things do not happen all at once, and they do not happen smoothly when a massive wrench is thrown into the works like this. The US economy and the value of the dollar will go through a series of convulsions, up and down, over the next months to years, before settling in a worse place. The only question is how much worse.

>> No.18829399

>>18829347
>send some USD to the burner
burn(uint256 amountDollars)

>> No.18829455

>>18829307
This is bullshit, the FED balance sheet expanded to $6 trillion already, that's a fuckton of liquidity being dumped into the market

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-balance-sheet-expands-to-record-66-trillion-in-latest-week-2020-04-23

>> No.18829472

>>18829392
Now I get it. Sounds like a scam though, win win game for the USA either way (dollar stabilizes every time)

>> No.18829527

>>18829357
1) Most of the money we use is inside money : ex money that is created by banks, the feds does not directly controls it, it just sets the rules

2) the fed bought assets, it didn't create money out of nothing, it made money more "liquid" ex: coca cola creates a bond, this is "inside Money", the fed buys it, it didnt increase the amount of money, just changed ita composition

>> No.18829547

>>18829455
None of this contradicts my posts

>> No.18829555

>>18829352
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-texas-wrestler-wins-second-high-school-girls-title-n851106
Beggs is transitioning from female to male and taking a low dose of testosterone.

It was Beggs' steroid therapy treatments while wrestling girls that stirred a fierce debate about competitive fairness and transgender rights last season. It's been a lot quieter since last year, when Beggs' march to a state championship was dogged by a last-minute lawsuit that tried to stop him.

Beggs had asked to wrestle in the boys' division, but the rules for Texas public high schools require athletes to compete under the gender on their birth certificate.

>> No.18829590

>>18829555
beggs probably wants to hurt her female opponents so badly

>> No.18829602

>>18829527
No it doesn't, that bond didn't exist before it was created specifically to sell it to the Fed in exchange of dollars. If that bond didn't have the Fed to buy it, it would be worthless, so the Fed buying them is actually creating money.

>> No.18829618

>>18829172
The dollar will continue to get stronger. Look up the dollar milkshake theory.

>> No.18829619

>>18829527
Wait, I don’t think that’s what happened there https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/money-supply-m0

What you’re talking is perhaps QE, but fed also printed money, along with QE

also, afaik non-central banks can’t create money, unless you’re calling credit money

>> No.18829626

>>18829392
No, no, no. Pumping several trillion dollars into the economy will pretty much inflation rape the economy. This will happen, anything else is magical thinking. "the shunning city on the mountain" and America's exceptionalism and shit like that has nothing on basic economic laws

>> No.18829631

>>18829602
Yeah, prove your claims

>> No.18829639

>>18829352
It's literally a woman on steroids pretending to be a man.

>> No.18829654

>>18829248
>do you admire the man who figured out a loophole that allowed for his success /biz/?
>or do you hate him for playing the game smarter than you would?
yes

>> No.18829689

>>18829619
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_money

>> No.18829692

>>18829631
I think anon is right, bond is just a legal form of money printing (injection), the substance of this is still money printing. Basically anytime fed buys anything it is a directed money print

>> No.18829743

>>18829689
First sentence of this wiki article
> In monetary economics, inside money is money issued by private intermediaries (i.e. commercial banks) in the form of debt (credit).
>commercial banks
>commercial

When central banks does it, it issues IOU from your country, also known as cash.
Damn I though I have a shit reading comprehension in English

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>>18829172
the weak should fear the strong
>pic not related

>> No.18829821

>>18829172
Its a race to the bottom, question is who will be first one there. My guess is Argentina. Once US opens up again and everyone starts to realize there is no "pent up spending and demand" things will really take off. My guess is inflation over deflation. Strong dollar means US can import easily and have difficulty exporting, bad news for the American producers and manufacturers. America has lots of excess labor, not a good thing. my guess is there will be a major war somewhere within the next 2 years

>> No.18829857

>>18829692
If the Fed were to buy bonds that already were being traded in the market it would be monetization, but when it buys bonds specifically created to sell them to the Fed then it's money printing.

>> No.18829863

>>18829743
Commercial banks create money, it's just another type of money, you said they couldn't I am telling you that money isn't only MB

>> No.18829874

>>18829857
If the bond would be sold only to the fed, the fed would be the only bidder and you'd pay a fuckhueg interest rate

>> No.18829903

>>18829289
>>18829555
>>18829639
Even in sports, women have it easy.
Wanna take performance-enhancing drugs and get an unfair advantage over your other co-competitors?
Simply say:
>I identify as male
and you get a free pass.

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18829961

>>18829172
Well if history repeats itself and if we can learn a little bit from the spainish flu and some of the current trends(including the fact there will be waves of infection) there will be a boom but some things will decline.
Less people are going to be eager to go to work so pay *might* be better.
People will need to commute less because businesses more now realize why rent or maintain an office building when employees can work at home?
More people from older generations HAD to be familiar with certain commutation applications so it’s much easier to talk with them now.


That being said less people will travel short distance or far. So air travel is going to still be hurting
Some some and medium businesses are never going to recover.
More people got off their fatasses and learned to home cooked. So people might order less takeout in comparison before the pandemic.


Overalll invest in communication and ui. Although people are going to be eager to go out and about, things involving hospitality and (face to face) entertainment are going to be hurting.
And this coming from someone that loves the customer service part of my job.

>> No.18829964

>>18829874
No because the Fed buys it to inject liquidity not to make money out of it, if they had to pay a high rates no corporation would issue those bonds and the Fed wouldn't be able to inject money into the economy.

>> No.18830008

>>18829961
Just realized that entertainment and hospitality hurting is the opposite of what happened after the flu. But there will be a boom for similar reasons, just different things

>> No.18830054

>>18829964
The fed holds bonds until maturity and even ""made money"" out of the 2008 crisis (even if it wasn't their goal)

>> No.18830079

>>18829903
You know they are testing women for testosterone right? Even if your just naturally have more testosterone you can be disqualified. There’s was a whole thing about it in 2009

>> No.18830112

>>18830054
Yes and? That only means that they pay above 0 rates not fuckhuge rates. This is very simple, the Fed is desperate to inject liquidity or deflation will destroy the economy, corps know that, they have the leverage, they won't pay fuckhuge rates, what you say doesn't make any sense.

>> No.18830200

>>18829626
Im not claiming anything other than inflation rape in that post. Im just saying we are taking the scenic route there, because the Fed will try to keep the illusion going as long as possible.