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>> No.18809075

TVIX to 800

>> No.18809079

SPY to 320

>> No.18809081
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Pretty good day overall

>> No.18809092

who wlse going to buy XOM a week before the dividend?

>> No.18809096

I bought 270 puts
fuck jannies
fuck the fed

>> No.18809102
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Stocks go boom

>> No.18809106
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Sold about 60% of my stuff today.

>> No.18809114

Nobody tell this guy.

>> No.18809119

Why doesn’t TDA let me trade SPY options?

>> No.18809120
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recovery progress is slow

>> No.18809124

Should have got SPY $240 5/15 puts. We're probably going down another 40% from here.

>> No.18809133

I know this isn’t your post but is this real? Did someone find another way to exploit Robinhood leverage?

>> No.18809136
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If you bought anything today at market order causing the price to go up, go fuck yourself.
Also you are here

>> No.18809137

XOM going up in AH slowly You got to be shitting me.....

>> No.18809147 [DELETED] 

consumer staples, utilities, hard assets like real estate, and tech

>> No.18809148
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>SPY puts

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>> No.18809156

holy shit your so fucking delusional just makes me comfortable knowing people like you lose money on a regular basis

>> No.18809157

cope, beartards have been posting this shit for the past 2 weeks

>> No.18809167

does your account have options entitlements? sign in, go to my profile, general, look under option trading. request it if you don't have it.

>> No.18809180

>the Chad Market Order vs the virgin limit and stop

>> No.18809190
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I hope all of you are ready for next weeks blood bath

>> No.18809194

Not him but i'll sometimes get screens like this when i let my credit spreads expire
Probably just RH's api being garbage as usual

>> No.18809199

you have to lie with your brokers and say you have tons of experience trading options

>> No.18809202

Down .69%. Luckily Nintendo pumped at open so that softened the blow, holding on them. I ended up selling what I could without using a day trade. Currently 50/50 cashgang, if I'm wrong about Monday hopefully the 'cheapies' I bought today will carry their weight, and if I'm right I've insulated myself somewhat.

So now that I've hedged my bets both ways, I'm expecting snib snab on Monday.

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many international markets closed due to holiday. sp500 selling off on a long term low volume not a big surprise here. yield up, next week likely volume upping and stabilazing to a degree.
nikkei and jpy some selling. oil still up, big week. nat gas down slightly. metals unchanged, gold up slightly copper down after big ups.

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>blood bath
Prices still too high relative to everything.

>> No.18809252

Dumb choragons

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>upping and stabilazing
I have doubts. A good case is that they swing back down about 10-20%. They're probably in for a world of hurt and can slide more, something like 15-35%.

don't diss muh duragon

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Is oil gonna crash next week?

>> No.18809282

I hope so

>> No.18809283

I sure as hell hope it does especially that it tanks RDS for that backstab they pulled on shareholders.

>> No.18809289

anon i...

>> No.18809305

DHT bro around?

>> No.18809313

I actually kinda need to coom bros

>> No.18809322

XOM froze divvies

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>> No.18809338
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have I been retarded this hole time???

>> No.18809345

I'm holding those bags for 3 days now, what the fuck just crash already.

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huh? why? what'd you sell?

>> No.18809377

Odds that Elon Musk is going to get investigated by SEC again for tweeting (again)

>> No.18809380

2nd straight red week

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good fun money day

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>> No.18809387

Very high

>> No.18809388

SPY will hit $220 before it hits $300. Trade accordingly... this is a trend reversal. Momentum is now bearish... Momentum is the main economic factor that leads to alpha...

>> No.18809389

Didn't they just keep them at the same level

>> No.18809399

First tripnigger in the thread is a bear. SPY 320 monday confirmed

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both up.

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It's real bad, fren.
Nice 69 though.

And I think that was a mistaek.

>> No.18809422

>tfw waiting for options approval from fidelity

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I want a clock

>> No.18809433

is that bullish or bearish?

>> No.18809441
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>pic related
Feasible, but the interesting point here is that the sell-off days of the past few weeks have all had noticeably more volume than the positive days, particularly this week. Wednesday's increased volume on the GILD news seems like an exception to the last two weeks of decreasing buying pressure (on green days) and increasing selling pressure (on red days). We've also seen a slow down in buying momentum for nearly three weeks. This could very well be the start of an increasing in selling momentum and volume, beginning next week.

>> No.18809456

>what'd you sell?
Despite what /biz/tards think. Youre supposed to sell when stocks are high

>> No.18809460
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it's not updated yet?
Usually not until ~1.5 hours after close

I want a pet

>> No.18809470

The coveted triple dog stare formation, good time to buy $BONE, $BALL, and $WALK.

>> No.18809488

He isn't an actual bear, that's a bag holder trying to get rid of his contracts.

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>> No.18809515

TVIX and TMF are your friends right now.

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Almost always bullish since he basically always says "I wouldn't be a seller of stock at these prices"

So which stocks that were high did he sell, was my question.

>> No.18809529

I wish I bought more GME puts

>> No.18809539

Keeping the dividend means fucking up your balance sheet. The onshore independents did it first, now the US Majors are doing the same.

RDS and EQNR had the sense to cut their divis. No point trying to pretend when you're bleeding cash.

>> No.18809544

Clown world demands $100 bbl oil sooner rather than later. I wouldn't touch it myself desu famalam.

>> No.18809551
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DIX is a probability, so it's hard to tell. since GEX is up, we should see more erratic movement. I have an odd feeling it's mildly bearish.
for context, I'm a bear but i sold for monday, I also don't use this indicator.

you're right, i just did a quick search, those are yesterday's. Do you know how this interact with the holiday?

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>They sold the bottom

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>when I think about BILI literally every day but still don't own any
China's even looking like they'll do well this month, I'm too suspicious ;_;

>> No.18809584

Whats the least shitty trading app?

>> No.18809597

where does the central bank get money to make asset purchases?

>> No.18809615

Thin air

>> No.18809618
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that's a lotta leverage

I'm feeling TWM for my hedgies

no one knows anything
but there's no US market holidays that I'm aware of.

Probably smart. Sounds like trump is ready to smash the economy and lash out at the chinese.

And hearing about LK being treated like heroes... it's probably another con

>> No.18809626

>tvix up 3.11% AH
Why didn't you buy?

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>using an app
>Not mailing you broker incredibly detailed instructions on what moves to make months in advance

>> No.18809650

-2% monday.

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>> No.18809659

Anti Semitic theme and image

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next week is our week bears
next week is our week tankerbros

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>> No.18809683

Why the fuck is XOM not sinking more lmao

>> No.18809685

He says its gonna crash

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>no US market holiday
right, but it's labor day abroad.

>> No.18809703

Yeah heard a rumor that Trump would block US pension funds from buying any Chinese company, pretty wild if true. Not totally crazy though, you could pretty much justify it just by pointing to LK...

>> No.18809720

lol putfag

>> No.18809721

My portfolio is like 25% tankers and 50% TVIX rn my body is ready.

>> No.18809725

she looks just like my boss
even the color of her nails

>> No.18809736

how is this expected to go up?

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I bought $3900 of COF before closing. Pray for me anons

>> No.18809748

fuck her, you should fuck your boss

>> No.18809754

that's what I'm thinking, I wish I had enough money to own a share I could go watch him talk since I'm in the same city

>> No.18809758


>> No.18809763

Market crash it's a super short term hella leveraged ETN the bigger the crash the more it goes up.

>> No.18809774

Is selling a call you know will hit strike a good method of selling? I've already sold enough calls on it and I'm happy. I don't buy calls because I'm not a degenerate, my stock is hovering below 8 and will easily pass 8 in the next few weeks. The premium and difference will more than cover any assignment fee. I bought the stock at 6 dollars. Do you degenerates usually exercise your option right away or what? I don't want to wait two weeks for you to realize your premmie is mine and you're never getting it back.

>> No.18809776

i work in a ministry of my country, such things arent really encouraged here...

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well, if you want to fantasize about flirting with your boss, there's a good number of these

>> No.18809804

why? Im short so Im curious about your thesis

>> No.18809805

if you're selling covered calls, you generally don't want to be assigned. you want them to expire worthless so you can just keep collecting premium.

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boss and co-workers*

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See you Monday

>> No.18809826

Here in America it's like a national pastime, all high ranking government officials get some from their staff. Hell even sleepy creepy uncle joe.

>> No.18809837

I don't do options, retard.

>> No.18809840

Seconding this. Would also like to know why you bought COF. >>18809743

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ma boy Keith outperformed me this month on active trading

>> No.18809857

maybe it's hope on those oil derivatives.

>> No.18809858

Not really a thesis but it's been moving more than RTX. I'm just looking to hold something that may go up over the weekend and next week to try make some money back.

>> No.18809871

>Governments both provincial and federal are beginning to ramp up business openings
>contractors are starting as early as next week
>tsx, sp500, dji, nasdaq red across the board
Is the increase in economic activity bearish? Shit don't make no damn sense.

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Didn't think it was going to happen before atleast June, but Trump starting to go hard on China might of skewed it forward

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>> No.18809879

Yeah are you asking if it's a good idea to intentionally allow your sold calls to be assigned? I've never heard of doing that

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>Live: Trump Hosts Recognition Ceremony: 'Hard Work, Heroism, and Hope’
>Reopen California protests at state capitol against coronavirus lockdown -- WATCH LIVE
>Coronavirus: L.A County officials address region's COVID-19 response

I'm not going to bother, it doesn't sound like trump's going to declare any big news today. But maybe some of you are interested.

It's virtual this year

Also BRKB is $200 so...

I was about to correct you heh

most of your rumors have been pretty good, but this one sounds like less reliable source thann the medical goings on

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how do I invest like a pajeet

>> No.18809921

>small business will stay closed
>unemployment will stay high, (hire stop, bankruptcies)
>big companies will have troubles for months to years to come back
>oil crisis is the cerry on the cake
>corona numbers will rise again
>states will close again
You are just a sheep in the herd, who will follow like a braindead animal.

>> No.18809923

buffett has never said anything like that, he's not a fear monger... why would you think he'd say that?

I think he will say that he hasn't bought because he needs to make sure they have the cash on hand for berkshire's companies during this time of uncertainty, and some of their businesses they are closing and may never reopen.

>> No.18809925

It’s not necessarily negative. Ideally the stock hovers just below the strike price, however getting assigned is fine so long as your premium is more than the difference between the strike price and the market price

>> No.18809929

Big oof.

>> No.18809935

>TVIX up 3.37% in AH

I'm happy I held. It's even trending on fucking StockTwits now lmao.

>> No.18809936

Buying calls is the best way to acquire stock when you think the price will go up mid to long term but the price movement is not clear short-term. For example, I would never buy tanker stocks right now, but I sure as hell did get calls. My maximum losses are $500 total. Had I bought, I would have lost $2000 by holding onto the corresponding underlying already. If tankers go the way I think they will, I'll have massive returns on this, and will then be able to sell calls for even more money.
Selling puts is great when you're fairly sure the price is going up but the stock is a bit overvalued: you want in, but not for that much. If you don't hit your strike, you just reduced your cost basis, eventually your cost basis will be low enough to buy in at market. If you are right and it dips, you get cheap stock. However, if you're wrong about the longer term, you get screwed really hard.
Selling covered calls is much safer because you'll always at least make money, just not as much as you could.
Buying puts is the best way to protect your investment longterm. Depending on parameters, it can often be much better than a stop loss (premium lower than cost basis - stop target).
In conclusion, you are completely wrong not to buy options.
Selling an itm strike is a good way to sell your stocks and make a little extra on the side, but you never "know" if you will be exercised, that's up to the buyer. However, if the price goes down, chances are you can roll down your covered call for extra credit.

>> No.18809941

>Buy option at 286
>Somehow ends in the red at 283
Gotta love options

>> No.18809944

Well the idea is basically I bought this shit at 6, I've been selling them calls at 8 and I got premmies like 3 months in a row so at this point idgaf. I'm just bored of this one because I wanna move to a stock with weeklys. I I end up just getting the premmies again that fine, but I'm also happy with a raw sale. Also. Who are these people buying ITM calls, and why do they do that?

>> No.18809961

1. Find biopenny stock
2. Buy biopenny stock
3. Claim their NEXT PHASE of whatever is showing promising results on /biz/
4. Shitcoiners buy
5. Dump
6. Repeat

>> No.18809963

Get a shitty scam broker with a Metatrader 4 platform and smack shiny buttons until the screen says that you're broke.

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after-hours workout, because it's a weekender you may replace workout refresher for a workout beer


>> No.18809970

do you subscribe to the efficient market theory perchance?

>> No.18809971

securities will be worthless soon
what will hold its value for all of time?
land, solid earth, buildings
things people need to live
it's a hedge against fiat currency

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>> No.18809978
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>Elon Musk wipes nearly $15 billion off Tesla’s valuation by tweeting that shares are ‘too high’

>> No.18809982

>female trainer
are you a tranny or something? Do you think female workouts will give you a feminine body?

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Other than what you said, he might revise outlook on financial institutions (insurance). The personal lines and P&C game is getting heated. Net zero shit on a pie that looks like it will have increasing numbers of claims and litigation. We're going to see a lot of consolidation industry wide, and it's not going to be pretty for a lot of insurers and insureds.

>> No.18809986

ITM calls are worth it if you think the stock will rise further above the strike point. ITM calls are also much less risky than OTM calls. There’s a much better chance they won’t expire worthless.

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>> No.18810013

yeah if its not a weeklies play i can see that being boring. you could try snapchat. they're pretty good for weeklies.

>> No.18810022

I bought a couple TSLA shares today after the big drop. I've watched this thing go up against any and all odds, this shouldn't be any different.

>> No.18810027

"ramp up business openings" is codewords for "will stop giving assistance". If assistance is known to be inefficient or insufficient (which it well motherfucking is), this is disastrous for small businesses. Additionally, if the timing is wrong (as it is currently), this guarantees a second wave, and historically, second waves have always been worse than first waves. You also don't understand why tsx, sp500, dji and nasdaq were up. It was because of tech stock which was seen as a safe haven. If operations return to normal, they will stop being severely overvalued as they will lose their business. But where are the safe havens now? Nowhere, so people are outright leaving the market and/or shorting it, waiting in other vehicles.

>> No.18810034 [DELETED] 

>buying the most overvalued company in the NASDAQ
not a long-term investor i see

>> No.18810035

Don't trade things you don't understand.

>> No.18810046

this time is different though.

Let's review
>Tesla is a relatively new car company
>bypasses dealerships to sell cars directly
>very much in debt and not too profitable
Now ask, what does a new car company that bypasses dealers rely on? New car sales.
>Teslas are expensive cars
>we are entering a large recession
>many millions unemployed
>this is already showing up in data showing debts not being paid
What will the market for new cars look like? Dead. Dead in the water.

>> No.18810055

>he doesn't DCA into his position

Never going to make it.

>> No.18810057

even their own ceo says...IT IS OVERVALUED...

haha, let's buy it, it is very cheap now...fucking zoomers.

>> No.18810061

>SEC drops the hammer on Elon after previous warnings
>removed as CEO of Tesla
Forget all these memers about how "tesla is the FUTURE amazon". The stock is so massively undervalued because of the cult of Elon. It would tank to its real value around ~100 overnight

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>> No.18810077

Lumpsum outperforms DCA. You're throwing money away

>> No.18810078

Woops I mean massively OVERvalued*
Too much coffee going through me god damn

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I"m going to bust a nut in your asshole faggot bear

>> No.18810082

Yaya I mean it was a quant on twitter saying he heard it, now I can't find it o_O
Not exactly confirmed kekkies, though the 160 billion China reparations thing is bizarre too
Yeah there's nothing wrong with that, but why don't you just wait until you get this month's premium then sell? I do always prefer selling weeklies over monthlies. Market makers buy itm calls, and people who want to make big purchases in the future but want/need cash on hand in the meantime

>> No.18810084

tesla will for sure drop 50% but the problem lies in finding the right strike price, expiry date, and taking premium into account

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my stock is too high lmao!

>> No.18810093

Are you memeing about the SEC? They are only angry if you use insider info. He tweeted it publicly?

>> No.18810109

There isn't blood in the streets yet. You didn't grab any bottom, this is just some dip.

>> No.18810110

Enjoy your bags, I'm sure your daddy figure is very proud of you

>> No.18810112

>buying the most overvalued company in the NASDAQ
read the fucking news retard.

>> No.18810118

The bottom is when the market retests the lows again m8

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>buy at the top
>buy right as dip starts
>get slaughtered every time
Why haven't you taken the pigpill and see red days every fucking day of your life?

>> No.18810126

It was pure market manipulation. As CEO you can do that and have an offshore account sell before you do it. Or tell your friends to sell.

>> No.18810130

And if it sinks might and you could have dank the other half in, but now you are stuck

>> No.18810131

you're supposed to buy in when things are red and sell when things are green

>> No.18810132

Told you guys about it last week but CLF is set up for the weekly pomp on monday

>> No.18810134

what about tesla getting bought? it will drop and then someone will buy it no? it's a brand....

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Mohammed El-Erian on Fox Businness today.

did you post the core workout recently? Was that her's also?

Got any other good ones?

>160 billion China reparations thing

>> No.18810137

I'll balance that by saying
>battery tech is unreal and TSLA has a huge leap in front of Daimler, Honda, Ford... basically everyone
>really fucked up BMW sales for two quarters, taking a chunk of their market large enough for them to comment
>demand comes from people who are less likely to be affected by layoffs (at the moment)
that said, it's definitely not the best look for Tesla. they need to get a big foot into europe asap. i also am convinced they're very overvalued and very risky.

>> No.18810156

Literally none of that is true though. Oof! Yikes, cringe.

>> No.18810165

That would explain why so many people are entering contracts with my gc. Loss of confidence in financial markets will lead to increased investment into real estate I suppose, at least then all the canadian pesos are tied into something considered more "tangible" and durable.

>> No.18810167

Pretty sure the chances of this actually happening are... zero?

>> No.18810168

Here's the thing. You can have a really good product but if you can't sell it properly or maintain a company's internals well enough, it'll still flop. The people at Tesla will get hired immediately after the company goes under and take their battery tech elsewhere.

>> No.18810172

I don't know, I've seen so many TSLA bears come and go, every one of them failing. From Mark Spiegel, to that Raven fag on youtube, and now to David Einhorn. It's just going to go up no matter what so might as well get on board.

>> No.18810181

I'ma use my gains from shorting the market to purchase one of them warthogs.

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Who here staying short over the weekend?

>> No.18810187

it's still tremendously overvalued
total equity is 8.11b and market cap is 147.28b

>> No.18810204

Tesla is valued 40x any battery maker and 60x any car company. And they still haven't made revenue in the best of times when gas was stupid high and so war demand for cars
>but le tax breaks as revenue
No value investor is in Tesla because they need to prove good underlying fundamentals. No growth investor is in Tesla because its obviously a shorts player arena stock.
The only people who aren't shorting Tesla are millennials, zoomers, etc. that think this is the "new amazon" having never experienced a tech bubble in their investing lives.

>> No.18810207

which stocks have you done?

>> No.18810208

oh wow that's silly
I don't keep an eye on ZH but I guess maybe I should

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You're in good company fren.

>> No.18810212

I unironically bought SPY puts yesterday before close and I'm not disappointed so far

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-1% today, +20% for April
Im back from my 2 day vacation

>> No.18810222

I'm too dumb for options so I'm all in on TVIX over the weekend.

>> No.18810223

you literally bought 3% down from the top

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>did you post the core workout recently? Was that her's also?

>> No.18810228

Sauce on that picture though...?

>> No.18810235

A 3rd gen toyota 4runner or a xj cherokee is as close as you're getting to a warthog, and they're dirt cheap. Good buy if you're not getting one from the rust belt.

>> No.18810238

Spy/vxx puts and calls. I have one TSLA option and already lost 500 bucks on it so fuck that.

>> No.18810239

>unironic m2f posters on /biz/

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>yuan is collapsing right now
ok, now this is bullish

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>> No.18810250

i'm talking about the tesla warthog.

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>huh? why? what'd you sell?
S&P, Nasdaq, Dow, and TSX are all very close to sell signals. As per standard strategy rules, I de-risk when indexes are looking questionable. Sold the cemetery stock PLC and sold ZZZ because they have earnings on Monday and I have no reason to think they will a) meet or beat, and b) buck the index trend if it's red on Monday even if they do beat.

I wanted a big chunk of free cash ready to go for Monday.

>> No.18810259

read the file name

>> No.18810261

i'm long oil since it was $10 a barrel
one of the few things that is green

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i don't want to buy a put on tsla because you can't underestimate how long a stock can remain manipulated

look at enron, bear sterns, lehman
all were trading like $40/share+ before they went to zero

only when institutions start selling off does the stock drop

>> No.18810273

>missed bottom
>missed dip
>didn't hold cash
>not waiting for retest
>priced in

it's never good /smg/

>> No.18810282

There are ZERO institutions in TSLA.
They have been coasting on easy credit for years which will likely continue for years more.

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>$BONE, $BALL, and $WALK

>> No.18810305

can it be monday already?

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I think online gambling will perform really well because of this lock down.
What are some good stocks in that area or are there certain casinos with a deep online footprint?
That shit could fucking moon. I'm probably late to the party.

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I see! I need to learn that TA for those sell signals. Yeah I do think that having cash onn hand and maybe some inverse smallcaps is a good idea.

cute breakfast!

>> No.18810342

they make jet engines, the price of airplanes is going to go negative like oil.

>> No.18810353

Looks like VW may have found a battery suppliers? they were complaining through last year.

I definitely agree on all counts. I think it's not worth damning the company over these issues and that it's hard to deny that there's merit to what Tesla has done and can potentially do. I might be willing to own a share if it was under $200.

>> No.18810364

The Fed did nothing wrong. If it weren't for their interventions in 2008/2009 it would have turned into the Great Depression 2.0. Likely to be the case this time too.

>> No.18810379

>the price of airplanes is going to go negative like oil.
so BA was actually super smart to fuck up MAX so they cant sell any? Genious move, Airbus btfod
Also Rolls Royce has some ship stuffs too no?

>> No.18810389

Sports will open first behind closed doors in most countries. Football and racing returning soon in Europe. People are bored stuck at home too. Poor people will predictably use their stimulus money to gamble.

>> No.18810391

Most likely we will rebound on monday and then drop on tuesday again. Don't really see another red day, especially a monday..sold my puts for now.

>> No.18810399

CBOE kekkies

>> No.18810408

>so BA was actually super smart to fuck up MAX so they cant sell any?

>> No.18810428

can i work where you work m8

>> No.18810430

Overvalued does not mean the stock should be zero, just that the price point is way too high given what is currently known about the company. There is a lot of interesting tech out there that might be promising years down the road, for example AMD, TSLA, or WORK.

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BGS SYY and TSN earning next week

>> No.18810466

I dont think you have a citizenship for this country
also we're full
but yeah, I quite like her

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Dark pools seem to be buying!

been eying BGS, and that nice dip in SYY
You think they'll have good earnings? Doesn't SYY have a lot of exposure to restaurants and such?

>> No.18810476

News like this, every week, for at least a few months. More and more, I feel like this is going to be a grind down until capitulation.

This is a truth that still stings. They had no alternatives in order to prevent a depression; but, unfortunately, it means that companies that weren't run water-tight will benefit from the rising tide that needed to lift the solid companies that required protection (for their employees' sake).

I don't think momentum is in favor of a rebound Monday. It is certainly possible, but volume and momentum both seem in favor of a continued dip for a session or two. We had to rebounds the past month on positive buying momentum and volume. This drop is on the tail of a continued decrease in buying volume for two weeks, and an increasing in selling volume for every red day that's occurred in the meantime.

>> No.18810477

yeah, but they're at risk. the other anon outlines it well. TSLA can really get some nice revenue going due to their lack of dealerships, but i don't exactly know where the demand will come from. I'm wondering if they could go bust.

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meme coins covering some of these last 2 days losses.
Monday is going to be a nightmare for me.

>> No.18810494

>I feel like this is going to be a grind down until capitulation.
I have no idea, but economy was fucked up before virus and will be even more fucked after we open
with that being said I still feel comfy in cash since no, bottom is not in

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>dark pools dying
u sure about that buddy?

>> No.18810505

Should I invest into BP on Monday or wait for a while?

>> No.18810522

Very bullish, it means american projects using cheap chink labor will cost even less than usual.

>> No.18810532

on my buy list
better question, what is your max loss?

>> No.18810537

just b urself bro, always works for me

>> No.18810539

Who else made money off the Muskman's tweet today? I ended the day up almost $800 because my gold miners started pumping.

>> No.18810547

What is this?

>> No.18810557

>I still feel comfy in cash since no, bottom is not in.
Good plan.

>> No.18810562

options contracts on the dark pool made by whales

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which brings us back to

>> No.18810574
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damn jack anon is a shitcoin kiddie... ah well nobody's perfect

>> No.18810587

Where does that data come from?
Can't have a buyer without a seller either, so how do you know that the seller was the active side?

>> No.18810592

I bought spy puts and there is nothing jerome can do about it
fuck the fed

>> No.18810602

God I hope so. But I think if there even is any tariff at all, it will be designed to match the advantage of USD over yuan so that there's no actual change in the current shituation.

>> No.18810607

wallstreet bets. some guy had a subscription to a site that posts them

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GME still looking good.. anyone itt trying to short it?

>> No.18810620

these dont seem to be puts, just the stock

>> No.18810627

Bid vs ask, bro.

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and this is bullish?

either way it goes Mr Pump is gonna fuck something up. Im bullish his incompetence since 2018

>> No.18810638

I dont think there will be any surprises. Sysco will lower guidance and BGS will probably refuse to cut the dividend again

>> No.18810648

he said buying bro.

>> No.18810659

I have $5 puts

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>so how do you know that the seller was the active side?

>> No.18810672

Market micro structure is messy as fuck. I wouldn't bet on that. Whatever data they're selling it's probably more bark than bite. But what do I know?

>> No.18810683

Lmao you know nothing about it

It measures the vix futures

>> No.18810685

so with next gen console releases coming within the next 6 months you think it'll go down?

>> No.18810700

Clown jokes aside, anyone trying to reopen right now is going to crash the local market. You can't zigzag, it fucks things up. Either don't close and assume the consequences or stay closed until cases basically flatline. Anything else will not only leave a massive mark on your economy and ruin your population, it will ensure you will ALSO additionally endure the same shit countries who never closed did endure, but starting from a position of stark weakness.
Very fucking bearish of anyone to open at this point. In 2 months we might have some countries that may reopen without causing mayhem (even then that's not clear yet as china lied about their numbers, so we don't know if they reopened at peak or if they really did think their cases flatlined before reopening - eitherway china is in deep trouble now).

>> No.18810706

This is in response to tariffs and it's a small band-aid on a seeping wound.
If you think the situation here is bad, look at china. The country is getting assraped by this. This is so embarrassing for China.
They're getting all the fucking blame and they know they're in the wrong. They can't chink their way out of this one. America will go into recession but China is fucked. Xin is fucking seething right now.
Gonna be interesting to see some part of 400 Million people join the lower class.

>> No.18810717

I’m betting on weeklies, I don’t care what happens in 6 months, don’t see it staying above 6 for long

>> No.18810743

Thanks for posting felon, filtered

>> No.18810749

I see thanks!

>> No.18810750

Most who trade the Vix don't seem to understand it. Wonder how many people here actually beat the market

>> No.18810781


Why are you always saying people don't understand TVIX? People understand how it works and how the VIX works. Stop being so jealous you missed out on the swing trade of a lifetime

>> No.18810797

Is there any indication of volume?

>> No.18810800

I wish I was central bank worker like my Father back in a day, gov jobs are fucking golden now but being in a bank myself now I aint complainin either

>> No.18810822

For those who are holding onto the weekend. Why? Holy shit this marker is too crazy to hold anything

>> No.18810840

I'm holding until the DOW is 30k again

>> No.18810842

Idk got around 6k of minimum wage earnings. I'd prefer not to lose more than £500

>> No.18810849

lets turn this thread into a thread about the nostalgia critic

>> No.18810855

because system told me to short the market but with the vix that high it's probably kind of a gamble

>> No.18810857

fuck off

>> No.18810859

then Id buy about 600GBP of BP next week

>> No.18810885

I am 80% cash. Most of my holds are in things that I think will "recover" the fastest like USFD. My plan is to go all in with 50% of my liquidity on SOXL and SPXL when FA begins mattering again and the VIX dies and stays dead for a few weeks.
My only regret so far is JBLU. That was purely a gut instead of a rational play that I am still regretting. I am going to be bagholding that for months and I even bought it on March 24.

>> No.18810887

Reminder to do your dd on GALT and SAVA

>> No.18810892

Not in my sell range yet, but I bought puts the last 3 days to hedge and those are all up by a good bit

>> No.18810893

suck my balls james

>> No.18810914

I want to buy a mountain and live on it.
I want to dig into the mountain and make a bunker overlooking the land below.
I want the house to be powered by solar/wind to power my house on top of he mountain.

I basically want my own eagles nest.

>> No.18810920

Because my time scale is not measured by how many adderal you take

>> No.18810929

My friend's mom is the manager at a regional unemployment / workforce office for my state. Since COVID-19 their office has been shut down, no employees or job seekers allowed in the building. The state unemployment system has also been overwhelmed and keeps crashing so none of the employees can even get any work done from home. For the past 3 or 4 weeks she's been sleeping in until noon every day and then going out to ride her horses and fuck off for the rest of the day all while being paid full salary. Meanwhile I know at least 10 people who can't file for unemployment because they either can't get through the system online without it crashing to fill out their applications or, in the off chance that they were able to complete their applications, they can't get anyone from the unemployment office on the phone to look it over and finalize it.

>> No.18810940

Hmm no fuck that. I'm going to go all in on BP for the divs. Thanks for the advice anyway

>> No.18810955

>turn your trip back on so you can go back to being filtered faggot

>> No.18810969

Who are you quoting?

>> No.18810991
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What stock are they talking about?

>> No.18810997

>then going out to ride her horses and fuck off for the rest of the day all while being paid full salary.
yeah thats the best part. As for the rest, this is actually a point I heard this week. 30M unemploued in US is not quite realistic stat since it only shows people passed unemp reg
post screenshot so we can say farewell to your acc

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>> No.18811054

not stock, big black oil barrel

>> No.18811063


Because its true. The economy isn't going to recover until at least 2022, this whole "flick a switch & everything is fine by Q3, priced in" shit is retarded. Just as the market failed to price in the virus & the obvious response to it, it's failing to price in the real effects. Go look at earnings per share ffs, this market is as delusional as Bitcoin in 2017.

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>> No.18811096

dude covid is a flu and shops where closed for 1 month. ecommerce worked as usual. what the FFFUUCKCKK are you doomer talking about?

>> No.18811098

Why do people smug post like this? Who hurt you? Why are you a Faggot?

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>Elon picks up his phone

Also what do? I'm reading all this talk of crashes and recessions and dead cat bounces and wondering whether I should cash out now or hold on. I'm an absolute brainlet with no knowledge of economics, just a vague/unlearned opinion on things so I have no idea whether to keep on trucking or get out of dodge.

>> No.18811108

So is your course of action to stay 100% cash for 24 months? I'd rather stay invested to not miss out.

>> No.18811111

This has got to be bait at this point with the amount of times the topic has been discussed over the past month.

>> No.18811129


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pendulum fag got so rekt

>> No.18811165

But this time they’re not going to let one of the big 4 banks or other large investment banks go under. They’re even propping up fallen angels.
Don’t humor them, they don’t think about this rationally. The amount of people protesting for the freedom to coof should clue you in on that.

>> No.18811168

stop stealing my life goals

>> No.18811170

Retard go back to soiddit

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I'm gonna start trading crypto over the weekend

>> No.18811195

No one really knows what's going to happen with any certainty. I, for one, think that this is a bear market rally and everything is going to go back down and at least re-test the recent lows from the initial crash. Others believe that the worst is over and that things are going back up soon. I've been jumping in and out of positions riding the market up for the past 2 weeks but I'm ready to pull a significant amount of my money out of the market when things look like they're going south and I've got a lot of funds in contrarian positions like gold miners in an attempt to hedge against a broader market pullback.

>> No.18811199

i bought in a month ago with about 60% of my savings. now i broke even after today's losses.

should i sell on monday and re-enter when the market crashes, or just spend the rest of my savings on big fat red dildos? im looking for long term gains.

my job is secure and im able to comfortably save 2 grand a month.

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Oh right, because absolutely everyone works for Amazon huh? Whole economy & consumer spending can run with all those office cucks getting laid off & getting new jobs driving Uber & shit? All with record unemployment registration & small business closures? Sure thing, this is a totally normal event, shutting down the global economy happens all the time amirite? This market was overvalued even before this happened, the tears of you bullcucks (again) is going to be glorious.

>> No.18811216

wanna get married bro? No homo.

>> No.18811222

Why are futures not moving?

>> No.18811224

Just put 1/5th of your cash in Each week for the next 5 weeks and average into something safe

>> No.18811225

Hi /fit/

>> No.18811235

>aftermarket hours
The action is ENTIRELY premarket

>> No.18811254

nevermind it's friday.

>> No.18811260

Can someone explain to me why Trump decided NOW was a good time as any to start more shit with China?

>> No.18811275

China started it with this fucking chinese virus.

>> No.18811277

sounds safe, that's effectively what I've been doing so far as drops happen. im not worried about short term equity losses but it would be nice to at least maximize my potential gains. i just want to get some gainz 2 years from now so i can put a down payment on a house and impregnate my gf.

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Any interest in doing a Berkshire watch party saturday? Could probably do it live or with a recording once it’s over.

Too bad no Munger this year.

>> No.18811291

He doesn’t believe their reported death rates

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Well at least I got cheapies. My God I can’t believe how many years I’ve wasted on 4chan. I’m an old man now.

>> No.18811295

red pill me on VISL

>> No.18811312

his approval has been sliding recently. lashed out at his campaign manager. he needs to get his retards riled up over a common enemy to rally for him and boost election

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>not using telegram to communicate with your broker

>> No.18811333

And why does that mean starting shit and tanking the market today was a smart move?
Sorry, but US Intelligence said it wasn't human made after all.
Didn't the faggot learn from last time? Shitting on chinks only hurts american economy more. And that's the one sole thing he rides on. So starting shit with chinks NOW, during this shitshow is plain fucking retarded.

>> No.18811335

Yep yep iktf
Ok enough is enough taking the next few hours off

What cheapies tho?

>> No.18811337

And who told you this?

>> No.18811343

After all of the shit that's happened so far, I'm kind of surprised we're not at war (generally speaking, not particularly with China) or haven't seen a full-on alien invasion. That would be a nice cap to an eventful first half.

Also, they probably did lie, and people died as a result. How could there not be consequences?

>> No.18811355

I'm about 60% in too, my plan is to average down weekly once (if) the DJI goes ~20k and lower again
I'm fine with waiting 2+ years on returns, not a big deal especially since I want to average down on good divvie stocks

>> No.18811356

I only use singing telegrams to communicate with my broker.

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Same here friendo, I'm 32 and still don't feel like a proper "grown up" in my own mind. The grey hairs showing up in my sideburns and beard remind me of my age every time I look in the mirror though ;_;

>> No.18811362

>his approval has been sliding recently
isn't it literally the opposite

>> No.18811384

Depends on what news channel / polls you're looking at desu

>> No.18811387

>tanking the market today

Where have you been?

>> No.18811388

it slid from an all time high to a little above what it was pre pandemic

>> No.18811399





>> No.18811402

I am just the SAVA shill. Anyway things are changing with GALT. Trial design is set, and it's beautiful. Insiders haven't bought in a while, but DU exercised his underwater options. They have a CMO to take care of trial, Shlevin is ready to retire with big bonus. At this point only a big pharma signature is missing.

>> No.18811403

>not chiseling instructions into the side of a cinderblock, which you throw through his kitchen window

>> No.18811408

>They lied
>people died
>there must be consequences
Nah. Just like mutts lying about WMDs, fucking up Iraq and arming what became ISIS (like with Taliban and their offshoots) ensuring generations of dead euros didn't get so much as a slap on the wrist, or Russia invading north Georgia and crimea, chinks will get off free. Besides, mutts are the last one to talk about punishing liars

>> No.18811459

>I'm 32 and still don't feel like a proper "grown up" in my own mind.
S-stop it

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Check and excellent b8

>> No.18811475

I will throw in a couple k when I sell my next position.

>> No.18811552

Whether or not one finds it agreeable, that's the power of global geopolitical and economic hegemony. Is it hypocritical? Absolutely. Does it play off the US having the biggest stick? Of course. Is that how empires are maintained? It's the only way. Does it excuse a nation's actions? Obviously not, nor does it being hypocritical excuse the negative actions of another nation. Each incident is separate, and should be treated as such.

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go back and tell them it's a lost cause. just go all in on MVIS. confirmed microsoft buyout.

>> No.18812196

why didnt you sell when jblu was at ATH two days ago

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