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So based on my investment strategy of doing the opposite of what the kike media says to do, how to I leverage long the stock market over several months?
I think the major indices should be approaching ATH by Oct / Nov just in time for the election. Can I buy call options with such a far-off expiration?
Or should I simply buy the indices and then get more on margin?

>> No.18723936

>>18723848
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. Just stick to regular ETFs.

>> No.18724151

>>18723936
Certainly it can, but I don't think it will. I'm prepared to lose whatever I play with. If I only hold ETFs I can expect what, 20%? I'm sure of my prediction and want a big payout.

>> No.18724185

>>18723848
How much money do you have, and how much time?

>> No.18724190 [DELETED] 

>>18723848
the stock market can go AL DENTE itself.

>> No.18724195

>>18724185
$30K leafbux in a retirement account - so 30ish more years.

>> No.18724230

>>18723848
sad that he has the coronavirus :(

>> No.18724348

>>18724195
Just put it all in TNA tomorrow and ride up. Do it for the whole week. You'll be up 30% ez. Take winnings and dump them in to SPY. Then broaden your portfolio by opening sure positions with good entries to nab stocks and keep the heads you take instead of cashing out.

Or lose 30% in a week on TNA, easy, then revenge trade with your 20k, reducing it another 10% finally giving up, right as the whole market moons.

>> No.18724400

>>18724151
Literally what kind of analysis did you do? A "hunch"?

Just stick to unleveraged ETFs.

>> No.18725000

>>18724400

My basic premise is that Western economies are being held closed at gunpoint by corrupt governments who want to create as much economic duress as possible to further their authoritarian and socialist agendas and undermine Trump's economic gains thus reducing his reelection chances.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/testing-in-us-prisons-finds-huge-asymptomatic-population/vi-BB13cuLh
I believe this indicates that large amounts of the US population has been innoculated against the coronavirus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk&feature=emb_title
I believe that US death totals have been exaggerated to further political agendas.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/04/27/coronavirus-tests-cvs-pharmacy-covid-19-testing-cvs-health/3035524001/
To placate the masses, mass testing will soon be available.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/technology/doctor-zelenko-coronavirus-drugs.html
THERE'S A FUCKING CURE TO CORONAVIRUS.

Essentially the Deep State played their little trick, and Trump emerged battered, but not beaten. The first country to reopen will leave all others economically in the dust - Trump knows this. As the only Western leader pushing for a restart of the economy as well as pushing for massive domestic infrastructure spending, I believe that US markets will reflect the economic reality of a return to normal + stimulus.

>> No.18725031

>>18725000
>hydroxychloroquine

This isn't a cure you dumbdumb. Trump is a retard.

>> No.18725050

>>18725031
>Orange man bad!

I bet you think he's a Russian puppet too

>> No.18725052

>>18723848
the SPY that DRIPped me

>> No.18725061

>>18725050
No he's just stupid and says stupid things.

>> No.18725066
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>>18723848

>> No.18725077

>>18725000
just go all in on a leveraged oil etf to prove your theory

>> No.18725082

>>18723848
He's a bond Chad obviously

>> No.18725111

>>18725077
I don't know enough about to oil to confidently invest in it. I know there's a glut because the world is shut down, but I don't know how it's going to play out long term with Russia, the Saudis, Mexio, Canada, etc.
I am however bullish on the overall US economy, which is what I'm trying to figure out how to bet on.

>> No.18725141

>>18725000
I've been wondering this myself but did not find anything beyond just buying basic bitch etf's. You missed the boat a bit however.

Other options are airlines and oil but both are dependent on the rest of the world getting their heads out of their asses and seeing how retarded (ie. >>18725031 ) much of the population is that might take a long time.

>> No.18725206

>>18725141
I'm still waiting on my money to clear into my broker, but I've been reading up on LEAPS

https://www.optionsplaybook.com/rookies-corner/buying-leap-options/

Essentially long-term options, but I cant seem to find a downside.

>> No.18725217

>>18725141
How am I retarded? Healthcare professionals are literally say it's not a cure and it's dangerous.

Good luck investing in airlines and oil lol

>> No.18725243

>>18725217
Do you have any links? All the studies I've seen against are hilariously biased.

>> No.18725286

>>18725206
Downside to me would be necessity to time it correctly. You can sit in stocks for as long as it takes for the theatre to be over, options have an end date and if they are still fucking around at that point you're fucked. With all the lock down nonsense we are not building herd immunity and a second wave could be a real possibility. Not that it would be actually all that damaging but the overreaction from every political party attempting to make the other side look bad could be catastrophic.

>> No.18725340

>>18725217
>How am I retarded?

By applying a concerted effort.

>> No.18725355

>>18723936

long: airlines, uber, solar

>> No.18725452

>>18725355
Airlines are terrible to invest in. There's a reason there's all these sayings like "If you want to become a millionaire, start as a billionaire and open an airline" or how a past CEO of United Airlines literally said he doesn't hold any shares of his own company and doesn't recommend anyone else to.

>> No.18725472

>>18725355
>>18725452
They're also overly competitive on price, there's minimal growth available, terrible history of bankruptices, labour disputes.

>> No.18725475

>>18725355
>airlines
Found the retard

>> No.18725565

>>18725472
>>18725475

So neither of you imagine they will recover once the virus panic is over? Or did you forget this is about making money in the recovery stage of this crash and not making 15 year investments?

>> No.18725584

>>18725355
>solar

I hope governments are too broke to continue sponsoring that bullshit once this is over, because I know once it's built suddenly it will become the consumers burden to carry.

>> No.18725589

>>18725565
Lots of airlines have gone bankrupt before, and in general they just aren't a good business to invest in for the reasons I mentioned.

Many of the airlines literally don't have enough cash to keep operating for a few more months without bailouts, and bailouts can be terrible for shareholders.

>> No.18725619

>>18725589
>Many of the airlines literally don't have enough cash to keep operating for a few more months without bailouts

They've already got bailouts. Their essentially going to be kept afloat by the govt until this is over.

>> No.18725627

>>18723848
This might help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyjtiipOwu8

>> No.18725664

>>18723848
TQQQ 3x leverage the big techs