Is there anyway not to get completely kiked

[Anonymous No.18709505]

Trying to get one has been beyond redpilling. Every jeweller hides costs, tries to conceal low quality flaws, will swear they're offering you the best price on the phone when you've got a better one visible on their own website.

Pretty sure blue nile even has some scam where they have an 'imposter' email great deals to the subscribe base but then they won't offer those deals as they are illegitimate once there. I tried two separate emails signing up to their site and both started getting the fake mail.

In person they're even worse asking you double the price than online and i had one telling me there was no possible way the pandemic would affect their ability to deliver the literal day before lockdown started.

> in b4 diamonds are inherently a scam
I know, but in real life not everyone you form relationships with is as autistic as we are and concessions have to be made.

[Anonymous No.18709605]

The money your gonna lose on the ring is the least of your worries

[Anonymous No.18709608]

You just admitted that you are buying to conform to the social norm, so why do you care about flaws or being ripped off? That is the point. Just be sure to "accidentally" leave the price tag in the box, because you think gold differ gf/fiancee cares about it.

[Anonymous No.18709707]

>>18709505
lurk no reserve auctions. turn stone into jewel at local jewelcrafter.

https://www.gemrockauctions.com/auctions/diamonds/?order=price_high

[Anonymous No.18709791]

>>18709707
and if you are a eurorich

https://www.catawiki.com/c/715-diamonds

[Anonymous No.18709868]

>>18709707
The prices there don't seem all that low considering the poor quality.

[Anonymous No.18709955]

>>18709868
It's good to be sceptic, but competition is always fierce. The vultures will snatch away good deals from under your nose. Put in the effort, follow stones you might like, see what different quality stones yield prisewise (also with regard to estimates if given). But if you look for a IF / VVS D-F color 3 carat diamond for under 5-10K you might want to do some more research fren.

[Anonymous No.18709993]

>>18709791
This site is pretty great though.

[Anonymous No.18710012]

pearls before swines

just get a cubic zirconia or moissanite stone
women are fucking stupid and cant tell the difference so why do they deserve more

[Anonymous No.18710052]

>>18710012
yes be dishonest right from the getgo, that attitude will last.

[Anonymous No.18710101]

>>18710012
It's not that women have been jewed into liking them that concerns me, it's the huge markup and artifical scarcity on a cheap item. So I'm happy to go for lab diamonds for example, as they're the same in every way but price, but im not going to lie.

[Anonymous No.18710120]

>>18710101
To be honest even the artifical scarcity isn't the worst part of it, that's pretty common in business. It's the general underhandedness of the retailers. They'll make you fight tooth and nail to get $10 under asking and then you'll see a better diamond for cheaper on their own store. I've spent weeks now dealing with them and that's what's making me want to abandon the whole process, not the price itself.

[Anonymous No.18710129]

>>18709505
I guy a lot of jewery and gold at estate auctions and invite only autions for fractions of retail and wholesale. I have so much gold, silver, gemstones that the last time it was moved it needed two forklifts working for a full day.

[Anonymous No.18710147]

>>18710120
Retail is a special margin tax on tards and normies. If you want to get into gems, jewellery and Pms then learn gemmology, hallmarks and the wholesale and estate auction trade and get gud

[Anonymous No.18710153]

>>18709505
>concessions have to be made
I'm sure the ring will look nice on her finger while it's wrapped around a BBC cuckhead

[Anonymous No.18710181]

To get this inpersepective the last time my antique arms collection was moved it needed a sixteen wheeler and the police arranged two police cars, one marked one unmarked and two 4x4s with the army in them for free because I informed them that I was moving it and they were terrified what would happen if it got robbed and they had to deal with criminals armed like pirates and confederate soldiers...

[Anonymous No.18710193]

>>18710120
100%. Though diamonds and other shiny rocks have a certain unartificial scarcity. Truth is the diamond price is kept up at certain levels worldwide. Maybe better to spend weeks trawling no-reserve auctions to get a hopefully somewhat satisfieing deal.

[Anonymous No.18710197]

>>18709505
That ring is terribly ugly. Get something unique and special that doesn't come from jewelers. Buy something without a gem on it. Something that is 10 dollars can be more attractive than something worth 1,000 dollars. Find a woman who understands this. Those with a creative mind and high emotional intelligence understand.

[Anonymous No.18710198]

I have never tried to move my art collection in one go. To fucking difficult and stressful.

[Anonymous No.18710263]

OP me again, just buy a few good diamond rings from estate auctions and if you MUST give them to a jewler with a five gram 24K bar and have them cast you some giant bling monstrosity. If you buy an engagement ring at a retail jewellery you really deserve everything you get including the fake valuation insurance cert. Fuck certificates, buy good old cut large quality diamonds in antique rings with the correct hallmarks and styles, cuts and quality. The gimp in retail talking to you probably knows about as much about gems and quality as you do, that is nothing and most jewellers these days are talentless hacks or mlp infertile women who love collage and can barely lost wax cast, let alone silver solder well and they certainly can't cut or appraise stones

[Anonymous No.18710395]

What price range are you guys looking at for your hoes? I was thinking of getting my hoe a ring that would range from 7-9K and have a 2 Carat lab diamond.

[Anonymous No.18710555]

Bump because I want more info

[Anonymous No.18710588]

>>18709505
>getting married in 2020
>not expecting to be divorced raped 10 years from now

[Anonymous No.18710665]

>>18710555
checkerd. I thought lab grown diamonds are so expensive to create that there is no economic value in doing that. So there shouldnt be any on the market. 7-9 k will get u a nice stone, good color not too many inclusions, but aim for 1ct. Above 1ct prices go up fast.

[Anonymous No.18710733]

>>18710665
I might add something perhaps obvious. If you want spotless color, cut and clarity, you'll get a smaller carat cap for ur 8k. Slightly more included, slightly less good color grade might not be an issue, might not be that noticable. And then a bigger stone is in pricerange. Law of communicating barrel as it were.

[Anonymous No.18710991]

>>18710395
Lol i paid $200. Wow

[Anonymous No.18711017]

>>18710991
How? Did you buy one of these?

[Anonymous No.18711034]

Also, thoughts on lab diamond online retailers like cleanorigin.com?

[Anonymous No.18711094]

Don’t get married man. You’re walking straight off a cliff, and the money isn’t even the worst part. You thi no you feel so good when you are with her but that shit all fades away until she’s just a fat roommate who doesn’t pull her weight and your whole life will be destroyed if you ever try to cut this barnacle loose. That person selling you the ring is what your wife will be in 5 years, except now it’s a new car, or a remodeled kitchen or a bigger house. And you’ll have to comply with it all or she’ll monkey branch to your boss. It’s a fucked game mate, and there’s only one winning move.

[Anonymous No.18711207]

>>18711094
It’s a fucked game for most people but not all mate. You just have to find someone who you can trust won’t fuck you over and is a good investment. If you’re not longing women you’re doing it wrong. For example, my future wife is a PHD candidate that is guaranteed 150K plus a year when she graduates and is getting the degree for free through a fellowship so no debt either. If you’re marrying a dependapotamus you’re guaranteed to have a fucked up time

[Anonymous No.18711295]

Check out pawn shops. I bought my engagement ring there for $1700. It was a leo diamond ring going for $10k at Zales or wherever that diamond is sold. Got a new solitaire band for like $400 and had a local jeweler transfer the diamond.

[Anonymous No.18711309]

>>18710147
Im looking at auctions and they are good, however time is also now a factor both with the pandemic but also how long this has taken so retail does have some pull.

[Anonymous No.18711313]

>>18711207
>PHD candidate
What field?

[Anonymous No.18711360]

>>18710395
UK so £4k. Just over 1ct, colour is a major factor for me when i went looking so I'd rather smaller D or E, excellent cut. Lab is perfectly fine and if i don't see something in auction it's what ill go for.

[Anonymous No.18711392]

>>18711094
Lmao already there tbqh. But I've been with my female roommate who i have to watch netflix with for so long now the only option is marriage.

[Anonymous No.18711418]

>>18709505
What ethnic group is most associated with diamond sales in your area?
For me, it's the Eskimo.
Darndest thing you ever saw.

[Anonymous No.18711423]

Like most people who have had success, I got lucky OP. My fiance was engaged to someone else, but then "he" decided he wanted to be a women. She kept the ring. The ring was pirchased for about 4k USD. I spent a few hundred to modify the ring so it was slightly different, proposed, and now married.
>tl;dr a tranny footed the bill for my engagement ring

[Anonymous No.18711438]

>>18710263
Are certificates often a problem? As for the ring it wouldn't be anything bling. Solitaire.

[Anonymous No.18711464]

>>18709605

First and best post. Have children without getting married. It's very red pilled.

[Anonymous No.18711492]

>getting jewed at the jewelry store
Gee who'd have thought

[Anonymous No.18711500]

>>18711423
One for the kids

[Anonymous No.18711531]

>>18709505
Enjoy pissing money away for a slut.

[Anonymous No.18711535]

>>18711492
Yeah but jews are at least meant to make you feel like you get a deal or not be so obvious about it. My dealings have been deano with Instagram posts with rented private jet tier. They have no negotiation, get caught out all the time not adhering to their own prices or deals and don't care if you buy or not. I'd kill to have a rabbi telling me im not bad for a goyische kop and he'll give me the special 0.001% passover special.

[Anonymous No.18711576]

>>18709505
having a retarded 'girlfriend' demanding a retarded stone, is literal proof you're as retarded as well.
also, you're putting an insane number of grands on a girl who rode quite a number of dicks before meeting you. You're literally putting a $999 Apple Monitor Kickstand on a 2nd hand ChinkChonk NoBrand monitor display, and you think it will increase graphics speed and resolution.

Go on, mr.Cuck McSimpcuck, let the (foreign) economy go brrrrr.

[Anonymous No.18711580]

>>18711438
They are worthless to me. I buy items of value as cheap as I may not stupid bits of paper.

[Anonymous No.18711608]

By the way, if you are under 35 do not marry and when you do marry, marry a woman who you already have knocked up.

[Anonymous No.18711611]

>>18710263
I should also ask as you seem particularly involved in the market, what is the best way to go about getting an auction diamond and fixing it.

Buy uncut and have it refined? Where to have one fixed? Can you trust the guy to not just swap it out when you aren't looking?

[Anonymous No.18711671]

>>18711608
Im 28, i want to start having kids now and don't want to do that outside of marriage. Though everyone is convincing me to maybe pull down the cost a bit. In fairness my gf never wanted an expensive one but seeing the 0.4ct G colour diamonds you could get for 2-3k (in shops) repulsed me.

[Anonymous No.18711674]

>>18709505
As you said Diamond rings are a scam. The Jews have you by the balls on this one; shut up, play their game and go impress that woman. As you said she isnt as autistic as you, the flaws she wont care about.

[Anonymous No.18711835]

Diamonds are a fucking scam

Steve Moriarty's Gem Art

what happens when we run of out of room to store all the fucking diamond

I am a dealer but im not giving you my info because you are retarded

[Anonymous No.18711992]

Only three real options, it's a dick waving thing for girls so she wants a pretty ring. If she cares about old shit or muh real diamond then that leaves estate pieces. You get a story with it and older cuts tend to be less sparkly and more about showing off the rock's qualities. I've seen some great ones in the 5kusd range, easily twice what you'd get buying some newer piece and it wouldn't have the vintage charm. Second would be diamond foundry or similar, lab grown diamonds tend to be better quality than mined diamonds, but we're still looking at 60-70% of the same cost. If color is a big deal to her then this is the better one as old stones are easier to find in the warmer colors, j and up. Third option is moissanite but cut becomes tricky. There are some near colorless ones but a large marquise or emerald may show the slightest blue or green if you don't go through Charles and colvard. Round brilliant is where it excels and has much more fire than diamond, about the same hardness. 2k usd gets you a really nice biggo one, but I'd be worried about overdoing it at some point in size.
I went to a lot of antique shops, artisan jewers that carry estate stuff, and etsy for old rings, diamond foundry had best prices on pure diamonds, and moissaniteco seems cheap with a lot of options for loose stones.
It was fun shopping but my bitch was so weird about it and kept changing her mind about what she liked I finally just said I'll spend up to 5k if we elope, 3k if small wedding. She picked a few on etsy for the surprise factor and let me 'pick', but her favorite was obvious enough so I got it and proposed a couple months later. Just don't do that cuckold down on one knee shit. After she sucked my dick I told her I had a surprise for her. Close your eyes, turn around, etc., and I put a locket around her neck. Some antique silver heart shape shit. She loved it and was excited enough. I prompted her to open it and she discovered the ring and said yes. All downhill from there.

[Anonymous No.18711993]

>>18711835
tanzanite and cobalt spinel are a trade favorites and will increase in value after 10 ish years when their deposits dry out

how many stones other than diamonds and synthetic did you see while shopping close to zero i bet

picture is spinel melee

trying to help ur misso not you

[Anonymous No.18712046]

>>18711576
they dont know better
you gotta tell them there fucking retarded and they can buy there own if they want to throw money away

[Anonymous No.18712061]

>>18711993
Im well aware diamonds aren't nearly as valuable as the cost, i said so in the OP. But humans value all sorts of dumb things with little material value. Over my life i will have spent more than an engagement ring's worth on shit nights in bars and clubs or videogames. The diamond is a social statement and its dumb but it's reality. Im not going crazy on it and have put in hours upon hours trying to get a good deal.

[Anonymous No.18712108]

>>18711438
the valuation will be for replacement value and will be worth on paper around 3-6 times of its retail worth

and if its a diamond you would have to pay me to take it

[Anonymous No.18712129]

>>18711992
>All downhill from there.
Kek'd hard

[Anonymous No.18712144]

>>18710181
Kek ...I love this

[Anonymous No.18712225]

>>18712061
Is there anyway you can customise something cheaper to make her feel 'special' and save some £££. Women love this shit and she'll hamster it away in her own mind that she's won. Eg 4k ring vs 1.5k ring with a 'personal touch' that in reality only took an hour or two of your time to save a couple grand???

[Anonymous No.18712309]

>>18709505
Buy a lab grown gem or fake one. She'll never know the difference.

[Anonymous No.18712316]

>>18712225
Not style wise as we both like clean, traditional styles. She's not some amethyst ring landwhale. Im looking at the auction gems and i guess if i get one there and fix it separately it is more personal, though the issue is when could it be fixed in the current situation. I was meant to have this done a month ago already. It's a way more laborious process than i ever could have imagined.

[Anonymous No.18712334]

>>18712309
I wouldn't hide a lab one, it's a diamond all the same. Doesn't matter if Onkonkwe dug it out of a hole or if Greg made it in a press.

[Anonymous No.18712339]

>>18712061
https://www.tanzanitejewelrydesigns.com/products/tanzanite-gemstone-4-61-carats

/watch?v=jYSriCxpE3w

https://www.tanzanitejewelrydesigns.com/pages/tanzanite-engagement-rings-custom

consider looking at something like that and you will not regret it even if you have to have diamond melee stones but you shouldn't be paying more than 300 a ct for that shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jk6jK5lvbw

show her this and try get her interested in some other colors because she will turn more heads with these than a diamond i swear to god

took me two years to beat my misso down on it even in my trade but she picked out a 3.75ct pink princess cut light pink tourmaline that cost me 400$ and ill get it set for 500 max with gold i find my self because im bad ass and ill ascent with tasmanian topaz it is more reflective than diamonds and cost a dollar a ct


i have a 0.51 ct cobalt spinel that cost me 15k usd and it will be set in gold alone

[Anonymous No.18712343]

>>18711993
second this. Spinel is awesome. I will add demantoid garnet, tsavorite garnet and alexandrite to the list. Yum.

[Anonymous No.18712379]

How many sexual partners has she had? Any woman over 3, including being with you, is not worth a ring or marriage. The statistics are so heavily against you that you're just signing your own warrant.

[Anonymous No.18712388]

>>18712343
based and also redpilled

[Anonymous No.18712444]

>>18712316
/watch?v=RE5aqSmts1Q

poor people read books
rich people own mineral collections

[Anonymous No.18712522]

>>18712379
2 before. Not ideal but nun tier for the UK.

[Anonymous No.18712540]

>>18712339
Im not contending any of your points, you are obviously right about value. The problem is its a female social game centered on diamonds. Plus style wise she would prefer a white or clear stone regardless of anything else.

[Anonymous No.18712555]

>>18712316
where do you live you might be able to jump in a near by river with her after quarantine and find your own sapphires

getting things made in places like thailand helps because all your local gold/silver smiths will be working for 50$ and hour and the jewller will put 100 an hour on top compared to 20 dollars a piece and locally if golds $56 a gram your gonna pay $150 to have it worked compared to 20 dollars on top of the whole piece but ur fucked bc stay at home orders

[Anonymous No.18712578]

>>18709605
This. You need to strong consider the downsides of marriage relative to the upside. The government has stacked a ton of downside to an institution that traditionally had dubious upside at best and women did their part in destroying the upside. I don't know how much worse of a proposition it could be. The government fucks you financially if it doesn't work out. Women are incentivized and encouraged to do legitimately whatever the fuck they want in a marriage and you have no recourse but to get fucked by the government. When they inevitably fuck you over everyone around them is going to cheer for them and shout "you go girl!" while you get branded a monster. And on and on. It's the same story again and again and guys just keep lining up for it.

[Anonymous No.18712642]

>>18712555
Yorkshire in the UK. I think we just have pebbles, shopping trolleys and discarded rape gang victims in our rivers.

[Anonymous No.18712684]

i got the diamond ring back from cheating whore ex gf and now I need to sell it, any advice?

[Anonymous No.18712699]

>>18712540
https://www.gemrockauctions.com/auctions/diamonds/white-diamonds/single-white-diamonds/?order=price_high

i really cant help with advice on a diamond as im not jewish and they literally own 98% of the mines and keep 99% of what is mined in warehouses they keep it in there circle to artificially pump the price beyond any belief for what they are color and size wise
legit sapphire is 20 times rarer on the surface of the earth let alone nice gem quality stones then you can go to something like i like australian aquamarine where the world would be lucky to have 1000 cut gem quality stones for fractions of the price ...for now

[Anonymous No.18712715]

>>18712578
In our case she earns more. I did a 6 medical degree with a year out ill and she did a engineering degree so had a fair earning head start.

I agree the entire world of sexual dynamics has been totally destroyed, you spend a lot to marry a girl who fucked out her pair bonding for a free shot in clubs at 18 but will blow you if you're lucky once a year then cheat on you for neglecting her no matter what you do and take the money and kids.

What's the alternative though? Opt out of the game and don't reproduce?

[Anonymous No.18712743]

>>18712699
It has been fun seeing the names of the diamond retailers/the location when listed on auction retailers.

[Anonymous No.18712880]

Hey OP I just bought an engagement ring on Blue Nile two days ago. I tried to start a thread to get more info and just got a bunch of LOL WOMEN ARE WHORES. SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR MONEY LOL HE FELL FOR THE WIFE MEME
I'm not going to read this thread but I'm sure that's what it is. I'm a poor fag so I didn't spend a whole lot on a ring.
Yes it's a scam and basically just a formality. A good girfriend/fiance/wife probably doesn't even want a ring and would prefer the money were saved or spent on something more practical. It would still probably cause more of a pain for them to have to explain that to their stupid friends or family members without it sounding like a massive COPE.
In person jewelers seem to be an even bigger scam that online dealers but the big name sites seem to be utter fucking garbage scams.
I don't know what to tell you. You're gonna buy a ring and you're going to get ripped off hut it doesn't matter because you "have to" buy the ring anyway. She wont care but will be happy you did even if she doesn't admit it. Just get a cool ring

[Anonymous No.18712946]

>>18712743
i swear to god the only people i see with diamonds are boiler room level jewish suits and crack heads that bring me stones to try sell

legit get a crack head at the bar to pinch you a big one if it has to be a diamond

>>18712715
geo eng by trade here and she will fall in love with colored stones if she looks into them more try push her into looking the pressure that makes a diamond is fuck all compared to what goes into forming and coloring some of the prettier cheaper precious stones and shes promoting jewish slavery

diamonds are for farmers

[Anonymous No.18713028]

>>18712880
More or less it and also my thoughts the same. Im looking at auction and setting it separately but if it takes too long ill just go lab diamond from a smaller retailer.

Blue Nile, James Allen and the like have pissed me off with terrible practices so fuck them. In person ones basically insult you the offerings.

Also the same with the gf, she'd rather have had a shit ring a year ago than a good ring now but you're buying it as much for her friends and family's opinion.

[Anonymous No.18713082]

>>18712946
Yeah i see diamond rings all the time on darkmarkets but would never buy that. At this point i don't have time to change tac to a different stone, it's just about ending this whole painful process without being ass raped by some self righteous call centre technician 'diamond expert'.

[Anonymous No.18713366]

>>18713082
yeah im a gemstone and mineral dealer

not a diamond jew

thats a hole other boiler room that you will not really get into unless your a family member a girl or getting ripped off

i have probably seen 3 serious diamonds in my career and held countless million dollar colored stones and one offs even a meteorite containing unidentified gaseous liquid

diamonds are just a jews game nothing else
fuck i wish i could pull that marketing off with quartz


go to a pub and ask for some one to steal you one for $1000 and tell them you will be back in a week to see what they have
or
get a house loan out in both of your names for a 1.02 ct argyle diamond make her walk everywhere hand first then when she leaves you for chad steal the ring and claim bankruptcy so you dont have to pay child support and still live like a king
its what a jew would do

[Anonymous No.18713372]

>>18713028
What are the blue Nile James Allen practices you don't like?
I tried for like a half day to find "conflict free" diamonds and its all one big finger pointing circle jerk,so I gave up and ordered from blue nile because it was the most painless process. I didn't talk to anyone and did it online in 5 minutes. But yeah, that was after weeks of reading, comparing, and looking at literally hundreds of settings. In my opinion the setting is a bit more important than the diamond because I'm not a jeweler, my girlfriend isn't a jeweler, her friends and family aren't jewelers, none of us know one fucking diamond from another. I picked a 1.0 ct diamond just to have a round number and ideal quantity because like I said, what the fuck do I know.
The whole thing was right about $4k and I'm glad to be done with the whole thing.
The real panic inducing bit was trying to get her ring size. I nearly shat myself trying to measure her finger while she slept. It was kind of a fun experience looking back on it but again, I'm glad it's over. Now I just have to wait another week and a half for the actual ring.

[Anonymous No.18713458]

>>18713366
>>18712699
>>18712555
>>18712444
>>18712388

the numbers do not lie

[Anonymous No.18713495]

>>18713372
I don't care about conflict free. If they had fifth C being conflict I'd go for 'Total decimation of an african nation'. As for the big retailers it was the lack of willing to negotiate, sometimes offering prices literally higher than i could find on their own site like some game of hide and seek. They never price match other sites despite claims because "well actually this diamond has an angle ratio here 1° different so doesn't count". Im also pretty sure blue nile is running some scam offers where you sign up and a different email hits you with great deals to entice you, but they tell you they're fake on checkout. Email directs exactly to the legit site, same certificate etc so i don't see any other purpose.

[Anonymous No.18713647]

>>18713495
I haven't encountered any promotional emails and didnt speak to any salesmen because that sounds horrific. I did do some price comparisons on my own from site to site and found the blue nile stuff cheaper and the site easiest to navigate. Mostly they had a setting I liked and I sure as shit wasn't going to start piecing this thing together and sending it in to a different jeweler to put together so I can get ripped off by 3 jews instead of 1.
Yeah, I personally don't really care about conflict free diamonds but like I said, I'm only getting thr ring to make things easy. The less I have to explain or justify, the better. I don't want any of my girlfriend's sisters or friends to have any stupid remarks to say because they watched some Leonardo Dicaprio movie ten years ago.
I did have the brief thought of skipping the diamond and just getting a birthstone. It seemed nicer and less tacky, but turns out her birthstone is a diamond. So fuck me.

[Anonymous No.18713669]

>>18709505
Thank you for this thread. I'm looking for an engagement ring right now and I'll probably just end up getting jewed by Blue Nile.

[Anonymous No.18713801]

>>18712880
I've accepted all of this too, and now I just need to figure out what my price range is, and how much is considered "cheap" so I don't go that low.

I'm very lucky in that my girlfriend won't be bothered whether it's a $4,000 ring or a $10,000 ring, but I know this whole thing is a social game and if I'm too "cheap" and people find out, it will look bad.

[Anonymous No.18713929]

>>18713801
I think something like $3k is a perfectly large amount to spend. However the jewellers definitely know that's what most people are comfortable with so for that money you'll get a yellow, scratched up micro diamond that is embarrassing to look at. You really need to be around 4-5k to have something acceptable.

[Anonymous No.18713966]

>>18710101
lab diamonds are more expensive you tard

[Anonymous No.18713982]

>>18709505
Why not get a gold band as close to spot as possible? If your fiance expects anything more then you're fucked

[Anonymous No.18714091]

>>18713801
>>18713929
I chose 1ct because it's a clear, whole number. Having to mention or differentiate between 1.03 and/or 1.2ct all of a sudden turns me into a jew and I didnt want that at all. The next whole number is entirely over my range. I chose vs2 because the picture looked the best in my range.

[Anonymous No.18714294]

>>18713966
Not even close. Labs are always 60-80% of the natural price.

[Anonymous No.18714505]

>>18709505
I'm actually getting married in two weeks, pic related is a render of the ring I bought. There are two options to consider today that are much better than diamonds. The first is a lab diamond. They're significantly more affordable and virtually indistinguishable from a diamond outside a professional setting. Lab diamonds are an easier buy today, since they're "green", "sustainable", and "conflict-free". The second option is the route I went, which is get a different stone. This is also an easier buy right now, as colored stones are currently trendy. But more importantly, there are plenty of stones that are priced more realistically than diamonds, since they aren't monopolized in the same way. You can spend as much or as little as you want on other stones as well, if that's important to you. I went with a padparadscha sapphire, which is a naturally light-pink sapphire.

>>18714294
Much less than that even. Check out Diamond Nexus (formerly Nexus Labs) for real pricing on lab diamonds.

[Anonymous No.18714649]

>>18714505
But that ring is horrendous. It looks like it's for a poodle.

[Anonymous No.18714673]

>>18714505
lab diamond is worthless thrash, sorry. Yes you can tell.How fucking poor are you? I hope you paid 50 bucks or less for that thrash because you'd be lucky to get it from me

[Anonymous No.18714689]

>>18714649
He might have a bimbo fiance with huge tits and DSL so more power to him.

[Anonymous No.18714694]

>>18714294
Wrong, I have literally buckets of them, they are worthless, you were conned

[Anonymous No.18714732]

>>18714673
>Yes you can tell
Not in-person you can't, and I highly doubt your friends are going to pull a loupe out of their pocket. You must be thinking of cubic zirconia or something similarly worthless.
>I hope you paid 50 bucks or less
The diamonds are real, so the setting alone is worth a lot more than that. And the center stone is a sapphire. It was $16k total.

[Anonymous No.18714734]

>>18714689
Any woman with a brain would know that is a Chistmas cracker ring, don't fuck brainlets unless you want tard kids

[Anonymous No.18714767]

>>18714732
Yeah, I can with just a loupe, you've been scammed kid. That ring is worth the melt value of the gold - 10% about 40 ir 50 buckz tops

[Anonymous No.18714807]

>>18714732
You paid that for saphire? Retuen it NOW under your 30 days.I will pist picks if SOME of my gemstones to shiw you I am real.You have been scammed massively.

[Anonymous No.18714824]

>>18714732
And there we have it, the sucker, the hustle the scam is done.

[Anonymous No.18714848]

>>18709505
>concessions have to be made.

No they don't. If your woman loves you, she will accept a $35 ring from the local pharmacy like my woman did for me.

[Anonymous No.18714902]

>>18714807
here

[Anonymous No.18714954]

>>18714902
Get your money back now. Seriously 16k for that garbage is beyond scam

[Anonymous No.18715005]

>>18714902
Don't walk run, its worth 100 bucks tops, probably less

[Anonymous No.18715041]

>>18709505
>giving an expensive shiny rock to a femoid
You, sir. are not going to make it

[Anonymous No.18715042]

>>18713458
colored stone value go up!

[Anonymous No.18715061]

>>18714848
You missed a large part of the point of this thread. It isn't really about what they'd accept. No shit if you're willing to marry someone she probably would be understanding to your situation and not care about the price. The gesture and the symbolism behind it are the importance. The same woman that wouldn't care about how much you spend as a prerequisite for marriage , would also probably realize the sizable amount of money you spend if you do buy an expensive ring for the gesture it is. It takes a fair amount more consideration and thought to spend money on an expensive ring than literally picking one up on a whim at rite aid while you're out buying tinactin. Of course she was happy with it and of course it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.18715072]

>>18715042
Yeah sure. Alexandrite maybe. Gwmstones are FAR cheaper than people realize.This dumbass needs to get his money back fast

[Anonymous No.18715078]

>>18714954
THEY'RE FUCKING MINERALS

[Anonymous No.18715079]

>>18715041
>thinking 4-5k matter at all
Youve already not made it.

[Anonymous No.18715104]

>>18715079
simp

[Anonymous No.18715105]

>>18715005
>8 posts replying to me already
>100 bucks tops
It's amusing I got you and your pebbles are so worked up. It's a 4 carat padparadscha, you're utterly delusional if you're conflating it with the value tiny gems you're posting.

[Anonymous No.18715132]

>>18715061
Yeah it matters he paid 16 grand for a fucking crap dress ring. You can't give pink saphire away, it's virtually a semi precioys by the 100 gram rock, there were mullions of them pulled from 80s gold in 2010. Just fucking no OP.The lesson is don't try spending 16K on something you know absolutely nothing about, they saw you coming Love my smelly hole

[Anonymous No.18715142]

>>18714732
>It was $16k total.
You spent 16k on some pebbles and boomer metal

[Anonymous No.18715153]

>>18714902
>>18714954
>>18715005
das some nice shiners. I envy your profession, assuming your stones are part of your profession. +1

[Anonymous No.18715165]

Buy platinum bullion and make your own ring

[Anonymous No.18715167]

>>18715105
I have a whole tray of them.Fact is you are stupid kid and like maby stupid people you don't know you are.Dunning kruger in action with you.

[Anonymous No.18715169]

>>18715132
Are you replying to the right person? I was talking to the $35 ring guy, not the sapphire guy. My main issue with the he sapphire guy is that the ring is absolutely disgusting.

[Anonymous No.18715213]

Need someone to give me the answers to my 1-hour chem test tomorrow. Topic is chemical kinetics. $30 btc reward.
Discord: box#3678

[Anonymous No.18715217]

>>18715153
I have thousands abd thosabds of natural gems and stones I pulked melting for cash gold just the last PM bull. Took up gemology as a hobby. I have also got a LOT of pm and jewerly, several thpusabd pieces. This kid got badky fleeced but I've had enough, this is just depressing to read.

[Anonymous No.18715236]

>>18715169
I'm the gem collector and hoarder, sorry I was talking to the romeo who got scammed

[Anonymous No.18715299]

>>18715105
The results are in. You are a tard. I see why somone scammed you so hard now to.

[Anonymous No.18715300]

>>18715217
I like it alot. Might head down the same hobby path. And on a side note: Don't try to heal the incurable. Just remember how many people buy shit coins.

[Anonymous No.18715340]

>>18715217
>>18715236
>>18715299
based gem autist trying to help the normies

[Anonymous No.18715361]

>>18715300
Truth, its a good hobby, got quite into it for a few years, have some very rare old russian alexandrite, lot of diamonds but its great fun looking into them and learning. Enjoy. The lesson is a fool and his money are easy parted.

[Anonymous No.18715368]

>>18711464
>Have children

[Anonymous No.18715386]

>>18714732
>center stone is a sapphire. It was $16k total.
I’m no gem expert but my mom had huge sapphire rings and matching amulet and earrings, surrounded by diamonds and they were valued to maybe 2-300 bucks.
16k dollarinos for sapphire is absolutely insane. All gemstones are fucking scams. Buy everything used if you must have it.

[Anonymous No.18715433]

>>18715361
omw DMOR (which will take years, but time is on my side). Should i take gemmology course? I like opal alot too.

[Anonymous No.18715435]

Something in my wheelhouse.

It’s not that diamonds are inherent worthless, but jewelers are inherently thieves.

I’ve been moving diamonds for 10 years. I deal with hundreds of jewelers and 99% are fucking idiots. They got their gg 20 years ago and don’t remember shit. The one guy I sell to considers buying gold a “service” for his customers and that’s why he pays 45% if melt. He’s a piece of shit with 3 stores. During the last gold run he made millions.

Your best bet OP is to download the rappaport app and pay the yearly fee so you can view live pricing of diamonds. Then shop around small secondhand/vintage jewelry stores and only buy GIA graded goods. All this depends on what you want to spend. Under 1k, who the fuck cares. Just go get a .6 to .7 pos ring and finance it. Over 5k, do some research.

[Anonymous No.18715476]

>>18714505
Who did the cert on the sapphire?

[Anonymous No.18715491]

>>18715435
>I’ve been moving diamonds for 10 years. I deal with hundreds of jewelers and 99% are fucking idiots. They got their gg 20 years ago and don’t remember shit.
So you’re making money scamming the scammers? If being a jeweler is easy money why not make millions like your scumbag friend?

[Anonymous No.18715521]

>>18715386
It depends on what kind of sapphire it is. In my case, it's a natural (unheated and untreated) padparadscha. The color has a significant impact on the value, and a heated stone is worth a lot less than a natural padparadscha. However, the heated stones have a different color generally, usually brighter. I had to search for a bit to find one with the color I was looking for.

>>18715476
GIA

[Anonymous No.18715528]

>>18715491
I don’t have a physical location. I purchase diamonds in parcels from jewelers and wholesale them out.

The shitbag who buys gold cheap doesn’t pay for melee stones, but I pay 70 dollars a carat semi sorted and get about 80 once cleaned and reparceled.

I have no interest in retail.

[Anonymous No.18715543]

no hymen? no diamond

[Anonymous No.18715566]

>>18715521
Paps have a premium, but you realllllly paid some bones for that stone.

What are the specs?

[Anonymous No.18715579]

>>18715543
It was always clear Jessica Simpson and as going to hit the wall hard. She has a giant head with giant features. She never had a chance

[Anonymous No.18715592]

>>18715579
Apart from the bad photo she's definitely hotter now

[Anonymous No.18715626]

>>18715435
Under 1k here wouldn't let you touch a 0.7. In fact when i went around stores originally looking at 2-3k GBP i was usually shown 0.4 yellows.

[Anonymous No.18715627]

>>18715528
>I pay 70 dollars a carat semi sorted and get about 80 once cleaned and reparceled.
>I have no interest in retail.
I’m digging into your person now but I often come across this in all walks of life. “So and so mechanic makes millions on ez scams for oil changes” or whatever. It sounds like you do a grindy work with a slim profit margin. Your scumbag friend makes bank doing something easy if exploitative. So why not copy his model?

Genuinely curious, not just channer gainsaying.

[Anonymous No.18715656]

>>18715476
Look, I know people who work full time doing valuations for the bogus insurance on this shit.No cert is woth the psper its on from anyone with the possible exception of laser etched argyle pink diamonds (which are in the main tiny).Pink saphire in all its foms is a common stone, so is white saphire and dark blue/black. A GOOD saphire can be worth money, but I have a tray of 1-10 carat pear pink saphs pulled from 80s jewlery, it was in fashion then, thats at best a 200 dolar stome, ysed ita 150 buck dress ring. The kud won't listen and I no longer care. Estate jewlery, good antique, good stones, hallmarked is a great hobby as is gemology but you don'walk into a car dealer and say how much for a car, I hear they have four wheels and wace 16K around or you wind up with a clunker that does not start and no ac.The ring type is what I associate with little old ladies in the 80s with blue rinse hair and a stack of bad romance novels by the bed. Its hideous, artless tat

[Anonymous No.18715657]

>>18715579
>She has a giant head with giant features. She never had a chance
Big heads make you eat until you’re obese? Wow.

[Anonymous No.18715691]

>>18715521
No, sorry, stop.Look in a mirtor go get your money back. Don't kerp talking to youself about how great ypu think you are because u have been dumb

[Anonymous No.18716057]

>>18715627
No problem.

I’m under 30, he’s in his late 50s. It took him 25 years to build the trust of a community (granted its all built on lies) and now he exploits it. I enjoy my freedom to move around the country and have no ties to any business in particular other than my own. I fly to NY twice a month to dump my goods and ship my scrap gold to a refiner in the Midwest. I operate on a 10% profit margin and make plenty of money. Perhaps his quarter century of of fucking people over has earned him the right to fuck over people more. I haven’t worked for another person or behind a retail counter for almost 10 years and I never want to do it again.

I also want to sleep at night. People who pay half of melt for scrap gold are scum of the earth. People don’t sell their jewelry for fun. Most of the time the person in a dire situation and to pay 500 bucks for 1000 in gold is just stealing from people.

Anyone can do it real easily. Set up shop in a busy mall, make the place look presentable, and just pay 40% of melt for gold and silver. You’ll kick ass and make money hand over fist.

[Anonymous No.18716111]

>>18715626
That’s fucking stupid. I have a killer .73 GIA G/SI1 RDB for 1475 USD. Just gotta shop for “used” diamonds.

[Anonymous No.18716165]

>>18716111
That's a pretty good deal, where did you get used from?

[Anonymous No.18716229]

>>18709505
>in real life not everyone you form relationships with is as autistic as we are and concessions have to be made
two way street.
>that women have been jewed into liking them
women generally have not, and if she's not ok with moissanite or a crystal instead of a diamond, drop her.

[Anonymous No.18716273]

>>18716165
Bought it in a parcel from a jeweler. Full rap on the stone is 3k and a nice, but run of the mill, diamond is normally 50 to 30 percent back.

[Anonymous No.18716318]

>>18709505
Go to a basic silver/goldsmith course and make your own hand-crafted golden or silver ring for that special touch. Learn something, save 5-10k.

[Anonymous No.18716346]

>>18716273
I don't understand most of those terms. Maybe I'll have a look at used generally. I don't quite like the idea as a returned engagement ring is very unromantic to a girl but I'd say having been mined and handled by dozens of niggers prior to reaching her is just as bad anyway.

[Anonymous No.18716348]

>>18716229
I sell diamonds and I tell every customer the same thing. The individual receiving the ring should be happy with whatever you can afford. Whether a ring pop or a 3 carat rock. As long as you show your willingness to sacrifice for a commitment is all that matters.

[Anonymous No.18716383]

>>18709505
>getting married
never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.18716416]

>>18716383
Probably but we all have to make our own mistakes and the days of submissive devoted virgins have long gone.

[Anonymous No.18716418]

>>18716346
Diamonds trade at certain values on the rappaport price list, the industry just calls it “rap”. The full trade price of the diamond is 3000 dollars but you can find it for sale at 30% to 50% off of rap - so 1500 bucks.

The chance of you going to a traditional jewelry store and buying a “brand new” diamond ring is slim. I sell parcels of diamonds to jewelers who then take those diamonds and set them in new rings. A diamond ring from tiffanys probably has an “old” diamond in it.

It’s exactly like that southpark episode. They fucking nailed it.

[Anonymous No.18716436]

>>18716348
What leeway do you tend to have. I have tried for months now with all sorts of hard bargianing and find the online retailers will not move an inch. The shop ones would move a bit but they were so wildly above online costs it was irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.18716473]

>>18716418
Interesting stuff. I'll look at this rapaport. The problem is after learning about diamonds, the styles that i want, going round stores then online/auctions etc im so long into the process now it's just not feasible to really start all over again a different way.

[Anonymous No.18716481]

>>18716436
Stay away from Etsy. Try eBay and rubylane. Make offers and be sure they have liberal return policies with no restocking fee. Check their feedback is all positive as well.

If you want to do it in person, find a vintage jewelry store and bring cash.

[Anonymous No.18716513]

>>18716473
You can take an online class about diamonds through GIA for cheap. It’ll give you a crash course on terminology and what makes one diamond worth more than another.

[Anonymous No.18716541]

>>18716057
Thanks for the serious reply. I agree with pretty much everything you’re saying.

[Anonymous No.18716558]

>>18716513
Beyond the Cs, lab/nat, fluoresence etc? It's incredible the amount of research you have to do for a literal once on a lifetime (hopefully) purchase. I didn't research the college degree i went into and subsequent career this much....

[Anonymous No.18716563]

My fiance and I are getting tattoo rings
She thinks it's because of blood diamonds when really it's about the small hat gang
But what difference is there between the two at the end of the day?

[Anonymous No.18716585]

>>18715368
>Not procreating
Is the new Nintendo really that good?

[Anonymous No.18716619]

>>18715579
She just needs to change her style I think with a different hair style and approach to makeup she could be a nice plump milf

[Anonymous No.18716623]

>>18716558
Two diamonds with the exact same cert/report can vary wildly in price.

[Anonymous No.18716676]

>>18716623
I've seen that occasionally, is the underlying reason significant to the end stage consumer? As for as my experience went colour was the most important, then size, then inclusions, then cut. I can't imagine even being perceptive of things under that with your eye?

[Anonymous No.18716705]

>>18716676
Cut is most important. Not the shape of the cut but how well the cut is executed.

A diamond of poor color and clarity but excellent cut will outshine a diamond of phenomenal color/clarity with a poor cut.

Also, if the color of the diamond is higher than H or I, be sure there is no fluorescence. It will make the diamond look milky or dull.

[Anonymous No.18716723]

>>18716676
Also, you can sacrifice color/clarity for cut. If two stones are similarly priced but one has a better cut, pull the trigger on the nicer cut.

[Anonymous No.18716816]

>>18716723
>>18716705
Ok, the ones im currently looking at are excellent cut regardless. I didn't have too long to see rings in person before lockdown, it was the yellowness of the ones on offer that struck me. Thanks for all this information, good to have a pleasant interaction for once in this whole process.

[Anonymous No.18716930]

>>18709505
If the dumb bitch is set on a diamond, buy her a nice band with a cubic zirconia. Diamonds are ugly, and not at all rare or unique. The debeer family hordes them and artificially controls the supply. Get her something like tanzinite (much rarer, only from one mine) aquamarine, ruby, or emerald.

[Anonymous No.18716956]

>>18711992
>After she sucked my dick I told her I had a surprise for her
and they say romance is dead

[Anonymous No.18716991]

>>18711992
hahahahah this whole post is gold.

[Anonymous No.18717004]

>>18716930
I actually have some loose debeer family connection but i doubt the person could get a diamond and I'd feel exploitative to ask.

[Anonymous No.18717213]

>>18717004
>worrying about exploiting a debeers
lol

[Anonymous No.18717266]

>>18717213
It's a big family, i don't know how 'central' she is but she's very nice and nonetheless it really wouldn't be appropriate for me to ask.

[Anonymous No.18717334]

>>18709505
>how do I not get completely kiked
>buys diamonds

[Anonymous No.18717442]

>>18709505
>Buying diamonds without getting kicked
Well you start by getting a loan...

[Anonymous No.18718678]

>>18714505
The color and shape of that is hideous, but I know a lot of women are into the whole halo effect nowadays

[Anonymous No.18718772]

>>18709505
>Is there anyway not to get completely kiked
No.
t. selling diamonds for a living for 3 yrs

[Anonymous No.18718986]

>>18709505
>>18718772
At my place we sell new lab grown diamonds and we also buy 'used' diamonds. The disparity in price is unbelievable.
Buy a 'used' lab grown diamond.
You should be able to get a lab grown diamond that cost $10,000 retail for $1,000 to $2,000 buying secondhand.

[Anonymous No.18719164]

>>18711207

Fuck my gf is a phd and is $300k in debt making $40k a year.

[Anonymous No.18719204]

>>18718986
Where would a source be for that? Im unsure of things like ebay because there could be so much fraud and the selection is poor anyway.

[Anonymous No.18719243]

>>18709505
don't shop at a jewelry store, go straight to wholesalers. Same ring, same (or better) quality, 10% price at MOST. I got an engagement ring made of white gold with 2 diamonds and a sapphire for $40.

[Anonymous No.18719303]

>>18709505
Have one made. Buy a loose stone. There are more honest jewelers who will make a decent ring than dishonest retail fuckers. The whole industry at the retail level is a total fucking sham, stop expecting honesty from thieves.
My sister got woke about blood diamonds, so had a star sapphire set in a ring, and it was WAY, WAY less than a generic retail ring. My brother in law was pretty fucking happy about it.

[There Will Be Blood No.18719346]

If you walk into a brick and mortar store prepare to pay the bill for the electricity, and the heating, and the commission of the agent selling.

Buy it online. I purchased from blue nile and was thrilled with it. Took it to two outside sources to be appraised and it was more than what I paid for from both of them. I have a few friends that have gone the same route and everyone says the same thing. Sounds strange but it is more custom and tailored to what you or your partner like. Use sites like blue nile in conjunction with pricescope. Find the stone on pricescope first and try to find a setting from the same dealer. Worst case is you can buy the stone separate and have a jeweler set it for you.

Don't cheap out on the cut.

Best of luck.

[Anonymous No.18719376]

>>18710181
Shut the fuck up, larper, nobody cares. Go tell larp stories on /pol, they might fall for it.

[Anonymous No.18719387]

>>18711017
Rose gold with 1/10 carat low quality diamond.
She loved it.

[Anonymous No.18719432]

>>18711993
I like opals. They're way more rare than diamond, and cutting them right takes a lot of skill and effort, increasing their value, and are way more interesting to look at.
But diamonds won, because marketing.

[Anonymous No.18719468]

>>18714091
The cut should always be the first consideration. A shitty 1.2ct is still shitty, but a well cut .9ct will be oohed and aahhed over by her friends.

[Anonymous No.18719654]

>>18719468
Yeah looking at the diamond now I realize I bought a bit of a shitty one. 1ct ideal cut, vs2, but a K. She'll be more than fine with it but I kind of rushed through the whole thing once I had chosen the vendor and setting.
Oh well.

[Anonymous No.18719661]

>>18719204
I'm not sure, anon. I just know that they are out there. I still have people walk in selling diamonds multiple times a week. Plenty of marriages end in divorce, and when they do usually the ring gets sold.

[Anonymous No.18719755]

You're not spending thousands of dollars on a rock. You're spending thousands of dollars to have kids and a loving family. A lot of you have a sad perspective on life.

[Anonymous No.18720938]

>>18711207
she's still going to get fat when she locks you down

[Anonymous No.18720970]

>>18712684
list for what you paid and make up a story about how your fiance was an angel but she had to go to another country to look after a sick relative and you want it to go to someone who will cherish the memory
easy $$$

[Anonymous No.18721010]

Are diamonds with a flawed surface like this able to be repaired or polished. Do they look bad set in a ring?

[Anonymous No.18721054]

>>18719755
>You're not spending thousands of dollars on a rock. You're spending thousands of dollars to have kids and a loving family
>That's right goyim, if you don't give me your shekels it means you don't love your wife

[Anonymous No.18721151]

>>18709505
Costco.
Seriously anon.
Costco.
Price/quality BTFO of any jeweler you will go to.
Look at their platinum rings and look at ANY other seller. Literally 2/3 to 1/2 the price.
Quality is fucking fantastic too.
Costco.

[Anonymous No.18721179]

>>18721151
https://www.costco.com/round-brilliant-1.47-ctw-vs2-clarity%2c-i-color-diamond-platinum-wedding-set.product.100494874.html
for example
You'd pay 8-9k for this anywhere else

[Anonymous No.18721270]

>>18721010
It's kind of hard to tell in your fingers there but I like those cracks in the surface.

[Anonymous No.18721312]

>>18709505
dumb brainwashed castrated sheep

>>18709608
this

[Anonymous No.18721328]

To normies, the spending of money is a form of ritualistic tribute.

[Anonymous No.18721360]

>>18709505
>diamonds are inherently
ya they are, but the diamond dealers also get fucked at every turn by the monopolists in charge of the industry. If they aren't happy with their performance, they'll send them shittier diamonds, the dealers are at the complete whim of what Debeers wants to send them. Its actually insane how inflated the price of diamonds is for a mineral that isn't even particularly rare

[Anonymous No.18721686]

>>18709505
What’s wrong with a simple gold band, OP? That’s what we did cause niether of us understands gems beyond “shinny rock”. It doesn’t seem worth it spending several k on something you don’t appreciate. Why not save the money and get something you’ll actually value in the long run? Or invest it into your portfolio.

[Anonymous No.18721825]

>>18712715
Reproduce but have no strings attached. Be chad and alpha. .... I don't think you understand

[Anonymous No.18721888]

>>18721312
the incels/high schoolers have arrived, time to abandon thread

[Anonymous No.18721912]

Can people who have married/gotten engaged give their input on what women realistically expect? I feel like the 1-2 month salary meme is well and dead for younger generations. Tbh if I can find a woman who is happy with a simple platinum ring I would be ecstatic.

[Anonymous No.18722071]

>>18721912
3-5k is pretty common among my coworkers, I have a few who wanted a really big one but had poor husbands or earned more than them and they paid for part or all. Of the ones I asked the most expensive was about 12k usd. We're nurses making about 50 to 90k/yr. 2 to 3 months seems to be dead. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1ct,usually white gold or platinum, I see lots of halos which I think is too trendy. The best looking one is an emerald cut. Didn't thitk I'd like it but it looks great on her small hand. I didn't ask the price but I'd guess it was around 6k. My wife at first kept showing me 10-20k shit, unironically wanted a 3ct vintage marquise. Finally found a 2.2ct for 7k and it was over budget but I was going to buy and some fucker beat me to it. Girls want a lot but with how much they fetishize a ring their whole life they will be happy with most anything, just be aware that diamonds shrink after a few months. Upgrading is tacky but it can be a nice way to placate. 'once I make it I'll get you that long nose special 40k ring'. If she's been a good wife and you have shitload of money in could be OK, and if she's a bitch then whatever just don't get it. It's a minefield in every way except literally, but we're all but forced to play.

[Anonymous No.18722106]

>>18709505
Talk to her about how moissanite is nearly as tough but much prettier and essentially looks like a brand new polished diamond all the time

[Anonymous No.18722209]

>>18721912

$400 for a gold ring with blue slavery-free lab-grown sapphire. My wife loves it. If a girl feels entitled to anything more, run the other way.

[Anonymous No.18722299]

>>18721912
>se special 40k ring'. If she's been a good wife and you have shitload of money in could be OK, and if she's a bitch then whatever just don't get it. It's a minefield in every way except literally, but we're all but
At my place, 3-5k on just the diamond is most common. add 2k for the mounting. That includes a lifetime warranty and an easy upgrade policy.