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>> No.18687677
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>> No.18687680

Dividends Every Week

>> No.18687690

>>18687624
D-do you have cruelty-free whole-wheat?

>> No.18687704

>>18687677
Pandemics are bullish!

>> No.18687707

>>18687677
This was when WW1 just ended. More important shit was going on. Also the Dow was a meme back then, like some random shitty companies. Nowhere near what it is today.

>> No.18687716

>>18687690
Every bred is guaranteed to contain the screams of at least 1000 wheat grains.

>> No.18687721

Should I put a grand on DKNG on Monday or wait a couple weeks?

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>>18687707
Nobody was able to work remotely through the internet, buy something on the internet and have it delivered to your door, either. Phones weren't widespread. You had man up and live with the coof.

>> No.18687752

>>18687677
>bottom is reached 3-4 times
yep, still waiting for the next few

>> No.18687754

How does one starts trading stocks in, let's say France?

>> No.18687756

What are the trends you long term investors wanna take advantage of in the next decade or two?

Personally looking at space, TDY and the defense companies look like the best plays, anyone have anything further down the supply chain? Maybe people making carbon composites? I don't really know and lots of them are privately traded.

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>>18687680
>Dividends Every Week

Anyone who touts this is a sociopath. It took 5 years to recover from 2008 (from the last peak in 2007). This is worse than 2008.

Anyone who says there is a recovery is LYING or DELUSIONAL!

I will clarify: The "uptrend" is the most obvious dead cat bounce in history. We will head down a significant amount. The jobs are GONE! Business don't have money to pay for people when they don't have any customers! What part of losing TEN YEARS of job growth do you not understand? It took TEN FUCKING YEARS to grow these jobs. You can't just turn jobs back on. If we could just give everyone a job, why the fuck did it take 10 years??? Fucking think for a second.

Can't wait for Zimbabwe mode!

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>>18687771
>>Can't wait for Zimbabwe mode!
This would imply stocks would skyrocket.

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>>18687756
Consider railways.

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>>18687754

>> No.18687857

>>18687754
Trading212

>> No.18687870
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>it is confirmed they are going to tell everyone to reopen in the next few weeks
So what will stocks do when this is announced?
Probably crash because once the crisis is "over" the endless money stops flowing

>> No.18687877

>>18687857
Thanks anon!

>> No.18687884

>>18687870
Who is going to tell everyone? Trump already did

>> No.18687894

>>18687870
Actually a pretty good point. I would also have thought an extra crash might happen on account of predictions for corona v2, but I hadn't thought of that one.

>> No.18687902
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>stock at a discount
It turns out he was right.

>> No.18687904

>>18687771
>you can't just turn jobs back on
except yes you literally can

>> No.18687906

Anyone have a strategy for cashing out? I thought maybe take half of your gains off the table for any single trade, so $1000-> $1500 you take $250 off and continue with $1250 in your trading account

Dumb? I guess if you're on a hot streak it'll weaken the compounding effect but at least you'll have paid yourself. It's not that you needed the money for bills but you don't wanna be -50% all time thinking why didn't I withdraw when I was up?

>> No.18687932

>>18687906
Sounds like a hell of a way to make minimum wage forever

>> No.18687951

>>18687932
80-20 then? 20 being cashed out

>> No.18687954

>>18687906
You move up your stops and let it ride.

>> No.18687957

>>18687906
There's no point in taking money out of a trading account, most of them are far better insured than a bank account (example: my bank's chequing accounts are only insured up to $10k, while all the available brokers are insured up to $1-2 millions per account. My bank's savings accounts are I think $100k insured only). If the account dies in a non-recoverable way, it means the world is so fucked it doesn't actually matter that you just lost everything.
It's better to stay invested and not lose out on the explosive gains from the extra money.

>> No.18687975

>>18687954
He's not talking about an exit strategy on an active trade anon-chan.

>> No.18687977

>>18687951
no we obviously thought you were going to take 80 percent out of your trading account retard

>> No.18687997

>>18687977
the percentage whether 80 or 20 or 50 is in relation to single trade profits not the account sum dumbass

>> No.18687998

>>18687906
there's really no simple answer, you either have an edge and are able to say with some level of certainty if the securities you hold are going to be worth more or less in the future and have to act accordingly, or you put your money in an index and literally don't try to trade ever. There is no inbetween, you either NEED a backtested edge or you NEED to stay away from actively managing your portfolio.

but yes taking some profits and letting the rest ride with a trailing stop above your entry price is smart.

>> No.18688024

Guys I'm pretty new to biz. Has it always been the case that everything outside of smg is a literal pajeet coin shilling shit house? Why isn't smg stickied? Everything else is 99% "BUY LINKIE PAJEET TOKEN"

>> No.18688027

>>18687998
Are you algo trading?

>> No.18688029

>>18687957
What the fuck kind of bank do you have? Every reputable US bank has FDIC insurance up to 250,000 at least for cash based accounts.

>> No.18688055
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Five minutes to movie night! Someone wanted a movie with "scary faces" so tonight's feature is Lake Mungo (2008)!

>> No.18688067

>>18687870
The fed SHOULD cut back on QE and raise interest rates once things stabilize, but considering cutting it off would be like crack withdrawls to the market and stonks must only go up I wouldn't be surprised if they keep it in place and we end up getting fucked even harder during the next crisis

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>>18688055
>Lake Mungo (2008)
that looks super scary....

>> No.18688095

>>18688055
>lake redditgo
Spoiler alert: literally nothing happens in the entire fucking movie. It's not horror, it's boredom. There's a reason the director was never seen ever again.

>> No.18688097
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Idk what to do, my accounts together before covid amounted to roughly 300k and went down to 180 and now they're sitting at 250k. Idk whether I need to all in oil or meme coins or try to get familiar with options or sell all my shit and just put it in an s&p 500 fund. Idk if I should get back into investing and researching again or do I stick with my current holdings? About 60% of my account is AMD I've been holding for a long time. Avg purchase price is 14 dollars. I also have nvda Disney and all of the 5g stocks like amt ccl ctl Nokia Eric. Most have been loses so far. Idk what I should do.

>> No.18688107

>>18688024
/biz/ has always been a crypto containment board. People who like stocks are a minority here.

>> No.18688114

I need interest rates to go up so I can buy a rental property

>> No.18688118

>>18688097
Depends what your goal is. If you just want to go back to 300k so you don't have to cry yourself at night and assuming you don't have a short time horizon, just put it all on s&p500. If you want to actually get money, start doing a lot of reading because you don't know what you're doing.

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Movie night movie night! Get in here!

>> No.18688129

>>18688029
A non-US bank, as you astutely pointed out.

>> No.18688140

>>18688024
>Why isn't smg stickied?

I don’t want shitters blowing up the best thread on the board. Shitcoin threads are our camouflage.

>> No.18688147

>>18688097
>60% of account is AMD
lol

Also your writing is extremely hard to follow. Just post your fucking positions in a clear way so we can either laugh or cope.

>> No.18688175

>>18687904
You literally can't. Unemployment pays more.

>> No.18688185

>>18688097
You can use losses this year to offset tax liability on AMD

>> No.18688201

>>18688118
What do you suggest I read? All the popular outlets seem to be really bad.
>>18688147
Mostly amd but also have Dis cron cgc nok amt ctl ccl gtx ftdr mnkd netflix nov lionsgate and a few other randoms.

>> No.18688218

>>18688097
Real advice, take your profits (250k is still a profit, just not quite as high as the all time peak) and wait until the VIX is below 20 for 30 consecutive days, then put it all in an index fund.

Never try to trade again unless you spend hundreds of hours profitably testing your strategies in paper accounts.

>> No.18688226
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How can improve my positions.

>> No.18688241

>fell for the INTC meme
im a dumb faggot goddamn

>> No.18688273

>>18687902
>When the shoe shine kid gives stock advice

>> No.18688286

>>18688241
>falling for the earnings meme
you deserve it
>>18687997
kek my bad

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>>18688273

>> No.18688310

>>18688218
How do I go about developing trading strategies? Thank you.

>> No.18688327

>>18688201
>All the popular outlets seem to be really bad.
Agreed. Best you can reliably do is check your broker's resources and hope they don't suck too much, then complete with investopedia for specific terms. Use tradingview or some quality software (could also be your broker's, no such luck on my end) and see what you understand and don't understand, work from there. Learn to read earnings data, learn to read price action, even learn basic TA (but probably don't go too deep into it).
But most important of all: learn risk management.

>> No.18688366

>>18688327
I remember the popular consensus on TA is its fake. Is there certain things I should learn about it? I'll try to read an earnings report and see what I understand. How do I price news into my picks? News seems to carry stocks further than fundamentals, but I'm a newbie so I could be wrong. Risk management is for when I want to day trade or play options? I just set a stop loss on each trade equal to 1% of my total value? What should I look for on trading software tools to utilize? Thank you bro.

>> No.18688368

>>18688310
read the entirety of each website linked in the OP, it's there every thread for a reason

>> No.18688404

>>18688226
>Two retailers, an airline, a casino, a company that makes planes that crash into the ground, and a supermicro
Do some actual research instead of just falling for the cheapies meme

>> No.18688425

>>18688175
If your job comes back, you lose unemployment

>> No.18688430

>>18688310
try out a mean reversion strategy in a paper trading account
basically you use indicators to see if a stock is overbought/oversold so you don't have to chase a trend
you enter when you have a 2nd/3rd candle to confirm

>> No.18688434

>>18688404
Oh fuck, just looked up what SNDE actually is. Why the hell would you buy something like that?

>> No.18688441

>>18688366
TA is all about trying to find patterns and then trading based on them, I don't think it's fake but I do think it's a lot harder to find a good pattern in a stock then most people think.

>> No.18688460

dumb question but do stocks normally go down after earnings?

>> No.18688516

>>18688441
For a while it was green friday red monday. Oil shown a regular schedule. If you play DTO you can net a tidy profit by buying in at 10-11, and selling at 1400. It's a super small window, I suggest you take the smaller margin. Also it works until it doesn't, I wouldn't do it again. I have like an 80 IQ but this shit isn't hard.

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>>18688460
Wildly variable. And not always correlated with the goodness or badness of the earnings either. I will often avoid earnings when I do swings because they introduce a lot of apparently random volatility I cannot anticipate.

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taking out a max loan from my bank in order to invest into this once in a lifetime volatile market..

good idea Y / N ?

if I can double it I can INSTANTLY pay back the loan and then also still have that maximum loan for FREE.. what could possibly go wrong?

>> No.18688548

>>18688533
>what could possibly go wrong?
You lose and now you're deep in debt with no physical asset to show for it.

>> No.18688550

>>18688533
Genius, just make sure you buy puts like the retarded bear you are.

>> No.18688571

>>18688441
It's not just about trading off patterns. You use TA if you are doing long-term investing as well. You don't want to buy a stock at a local high when it's RSI is to the roof and it's getting low volume at the top of a pump, right?

>> No.18688575

>>18688425
What about all the money those companies lose during quarantine though just trying to keep the business running?

A lot of small business loans are getting denied corporations are getting the fastpass to billions.

The recession is artificial, so there will be a recovery. Only thing is the longer we stand lockdown the worse it gets, in the longer the pain will be

>> No.18688577

>>18688460
Performance after earnings has pretty much no basis in what the earnings result actually is, the only thing that matters is what the stockholders THINK it should be

So they could beat earnings but if the stockholders think they didn't beat it by enough they'll still sell. On the other hand they could post an earnings miss but if it's still better than what investors were expecting they could buy in and push it up

>> No.18688590

>>18688533
What are you going to "invest" in that's going to get you 100% returns and how long will it take for it to do that

>> No.18688591

>>18688532
This, don’t trade into earnings, you’ll get burned. They can create good buying/selling opportunities AFTER earnings are released though

>> No.18688597

>>18688460
Earnings are where expectations meet reality. If the expectation was poor and the company did well, it will go up. If the expectation was amazing and the company only did “well” it will go down.

>> No.18688618

>>18688434
Maybe cause the ticker looks like sneed

>> No.18688620

>>18688590
big companies that will for sure go back up once this corona meme ends

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>>18688591
>They can create good buying/selling opportunities AFTER earnings are released though
True.

>> No.18688631

>>18688055
I just watched Aguirre, Wrath of God

bretty gud

>> No.18688660

what you nerds buying next week?

>be me

AMD
>after it tanks on earnings
Netflix
>literally Monday morning
MSFT
>literally Monday morning
BA
>after it tanks on earnings
Facebook
>maybe Monday afternoon
GE
>after it tanks on earnings
Sony
>literally Monday morning
Target
>after it opens down Monday morning
Delta Airlines
>its bottomed, literally monday morning

>> No.18688661

>>18688533
just make sure to livestream your suicide

>> No.18688675

>>18688660
Nothing. Maybe. Just maybe. a gold miner.

>> No.18688677

>>18688660
>Netflix
>>literally Monday morning
I'm sure NFLX won't be able to hold for long, I remember some anon saying that they've had their worst profit so far which means they might be on a steady decline.
XOM is the wild card for me, I don't know if it's going to moon and I should buy Monday, or if it's going to tank on Friday and I buy then, hell maybe to an ITM put too.

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>>18688661
yeah that might end badly.

>> No.18688688

>>18688430
Sounds good bro, I'll try it out.
>>18688368
Okay, I'll start reading.
>>18688441
Ah, I understand. Thank you.

>> No.18688694

>>18688660
Banknifty puts on Tuesday eod

>> No.18688699

>>18688677
I'm waiting for at least May on oil.

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>>18688533
Don't borrow money to gamble them.

>> No.18688722

Really liking Teledyne. Been looking through financials and stuff and that part is rock solid. And they're a low key space and science play that stands to benefit in a huge way if(when) the US government kicks in up to 10. Not to mention that they're incredibly diversified and serve very niche customers that have no choice but to pay extra.

From the investor brief:

Strategy
Our strategy continues to emphasize growth in our core markets of instrumentation, digital imaging, aerospace and
defense electronics and engineered systems. Our core markets are characterized by high barriers to entry and include
specialized products and services not likely to be commoditized. We intend to strengthen and expand our core businesses with
targeted acquisitions and through product development. We continue to focus on balanced and disciplined capital deployment
among capital expenditures, product development, acquisitions and share repurchases. We aggressively pursue operational
excellence to continually improve our margins and earnings by emphasizing cost containment and cost reductions in all aspects
of our business. At Teledyne, operational excellence includes the rapid integration of the businesses we acquire. Using
complementary technology across our businesses and internal research and development, we seek to create new products to
grow our company and expand our addressable markets. We continue to evaluate our businesses to ensure that they are aligned
with our strategy

http://www.teledyne.com/invest/Annual%20Reports/TDY_AR2019.pdf

No position yet, still a bit overpriced for my liking, but with a buy in under 250 or hopefully 200 if we see an actual big boy dip on the indexes again, you should be well positioned for a long term hold. No divvy, which is OK because they spend it on acquisitions.
>Consistent with our strategy, during 2019, 2018 and 2017, we made acquisitions and investments totaling $1,261.2
million, net of cash acquired.

>> No.18688725

>>18688711
Ima rooinerr oo ima rooiner

>> No.18688731

I got 15k reddit points for reposting an /smg/ meme to r/wsb

>> No.18688735
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Another component of the boomer legacy
>>18688677
As long as interest rates are near zero, tech doesn't need to actually make money.

>> No.18688743

A random thought;just watched The Mummy. Holy shit the film is 21 years old now. Still holds up well and is a hell of a lot better than some of the shit Hollywood puts out now.

>> No.18688747

>>18688731
Congrats something something wife's boyfriend

>> No.18688764

>>18688743
Hollywood has earned money now it just pushes propoganda

>> No.18688769

>>18688743
Maybe a sign for Comcast. IP holders should do ok in the mid term.

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>>18688660
>Sony
>>literally Monday morning
literally why?

You expecting theatres to open? Playstation manufacturing to begin? Phone sales to pick up?

>> No.18688786

>>18688660
>GE
Don't. Please.

>Target
Retail meme

>BA
Zombie company with a shit ethos. Look at starliner to see the sheer scale of their incompetence.

Everything else seems ok. Airlines are gonna be hurt for a long time.

>> No.18688795

>>18688660
Feelin’ cute, might buy a big chunk of WM and sell a call. Idk.

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>>18688731
>r/wsb
Comedy gold mine.

>> No.18688809

>>18688660
MSFT calls

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Don't miss the CCL moon mission anons

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>>18688806
how do you even?

>> No.18688857

>>18688835
SPY puts I imagine.

>> No.18688860

>Boeing Embraer deal is kill

What does this mean for Boeing stock?

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>>18688786
>>GE
>Don't. Please.
why has GE been going down since the start of 2017 anyway? do you know?

GE is in the top 100 of NYSE after all

>> No.18688884

>>18688860
Nothing? This was known days ago?

>> No.18688888

>>18688860
going to 600, hop on

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>>18687624
If it's just a flu why would the Chinese government locked down an entire province?

The Chinese govt don't care about lives, why would they try to contain it if it's a nothing burger?

>> No.18688901

>>18688699
To buy oil?
I'm waiting for some realty companies to tank after earnings so I can scoop those up too.

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>>18688889
>flu
It's a common cold that kills a lot blacks and old people. The Chinese locked down their country because they love their elders.

>> No.18688908

>>18688883
Because as it turns out, hulking conglomerates who try to do EVERYTHING are a huge fucking meme and GE is going through the process of chopping off bits of cancerous business.

>> No.18688922

>>18688889
They don't care about lives but they do care about numbers, specifically in this case numbers of able-bodied workers.

>> No.18688932

I went in heavy last week into OAS and QEP was up a quick 100K but didnt sell now stocks are down. I am still making a big profit at current levels, but they both have severe credit risk. Does anyone trade energy or have an opinion on oil? Does trump give those companies relief?

>> No.18688941

Do you guys think GE can turn the ship around or are they going to be just consistently cutting off divisions till their is nothing left?

Also is it me or is it sad that companies which used to be titans of US industry are falling apart due to mismanagement? X, BA, F, GE, etc.

>> No.18688943

>>18688922
>specifically in this case numbers of able-bodied workers.
The virus doesn't kill people able-bodied workers. It kills obese supervisors.

>> No.18688951

>>18688932
>up 100k didn't sell now I'm down
so you're down, cool. Kys

>> No.18688955

>>18688941
Frankly GE has a bad habit of getting better and then shitting the bed. I'm not holding anything against them right now, tough time to be trying to bail out a company

>> No.18688962

>>18688941
Just as bad as BA.
Awful management.

>> No.18688975

>>18688781
motion pictures represent about 2.5% of Sony's profit. Sony is down 12% in the last 3 months, IMO it is oversold, even during these times. it is a solid company and how the market has been looking lately I expect it to make back all of its gains quickly, possibly in the next 2 weeks if we avoid a selloff in the meantime

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>>18688908
but they are still in the top 100 and shouldn't they be finishing shopping off those bits soon? if they drop further after earnings it might be a fair price, especially if their measly 0.01 USD dividends ends up above 1% yield

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>>18688857
>>18688835
Here's another one.

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>>18688992

>> No.18689007

>>18688941
As soon as GIBBS start flowing to companies they cease having to worry about being better than competitors and more about appearing to be "required" for the US.

>> No.18689013

>>18688883
https://www.investopedia.com/insights/rise-and-fall-ge/

This sums it up well, GE Capital fucked them. They tried to fix it by divesting but that just teed up corona to fuck up their largest segment. Aviation. GE might declare bankruptcy to be honest, sad thing is people thought they were turning around and this fucked them.

>>18688908
Conglomerates work, but mismanagement of one segment has to be fucking purged, more segments means more opportunity to go wrong but also more chances for stability. After all, GE was great for the entire 20th century because it was diversified, but they fucked up and got too cocky.

>> No.18689026

>>18688941
Lol their largest segment right now is Aviation. Make of that what you will.

>> No.18689040

If you guys want an industrials company to replace GE buy TDY for gods sake.

>> No.18689045
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>> No.18689049

>>18689007
I presume that we will never shut off these gibs though right? So how do I benefit from this do I invest after they restructure?

>> No.18689054

>>18688901
xom, oxy, rds.b, cvx, etc.
I don't know enough about reality to invest in it. I vaguely know banks enough to be ready for them. It might be a while longer.

>> No.18689065

>>18689054
Should we be concerned about over-leveraged oil and gas companies that might need to restructure?

>> No.18689067

>>18689049
No, dude, just don't buy GE. You have the chance to buy great companies at great deals but you want to buy the one company that managed to fuck up during the best bull run ever.

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>>18689005

>> No.18689077

>>18688941
unproductive capital/companies/people failing is literally capitalism. titans that had every advantage and still squandered it deserve this fate and the past 20 years of board members should be held responsible.

What's sad is that these didn't fail in 2009 and that the fed probably won't let them fail this time around either. You can't have a new forest without the wildfire.

>> No.18689083

>>18689067
No I am not talking about investing in GE rather BA or something etc. Also what other great companies are you mentioning it seems everything rebounded.

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>>18689013
https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=GE

Seems like some places still believe in them. At least two of the dates (Mars and April) are post corona.

I'll check out your link.

>> No.18689091

>>18689045
Wait, what happened?

>> No.18689093
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>>18689076
Why are retards buying puts??

>> No.18689099

>>18688806
>You're all caught up!

>> No.18689103

Btw do you guys primarily focus on american companies? Or are there any companies based in Japan, Europe, Brazil that you guys like?

Any help would be much obliged as I want to make money when we eventually recover.

>> No.18689104

>>18689054
>OXY
Pretty sure that one is going under. The other ones are OK.

>>18688901
If you want a risky real-estate play look at BPY, 16% divvy and at a massive discount. Full disclosure they have quite a bit of debt, manageable, especially with BAMs help, but they'll make it. If you want safe, O and BAM are the real estate plays. Don't fuck around with mREITs like NLY and NRZ

>> No.18689118

>>18689087
March is before the real crash, the citi one drops the price target. Also analysts are a meme.

>> No.18689129

>>18689065
I would just stick to the big guys

>>18689104
I have a feeling they can make it, but yes, it's easily the riskiest and I will put the least money into it, if any.

>> No.18689133

I've lost 19k and only now I realize how stupid it was, I took it as a joke, but jesus, 19k could've helped me live without stress for another half a year. Now i'm left with 100$

>> No.18689152

>>18689103
America, companies like Brookfield give me foreign exposure. Most of the foreign companies are shit.

>> No.18689157
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>>18688908
>hulking conglomerates who try to do EVERYTHING are a huge fucking meme
bad news for us SNOY boys...
>>18688975
where does most of their revenue come from then? I'm concerned because theyre a huge conglomerate and likely tied to the jap economy.

>>18688835
naisu

>> No.18689165

>>18689133
Lol, you knew the risk and you didn't use stops. Just forget the money existed and stop trading options. What's your income and life savings.

>> No.18689166

>>18689133
That's why you don't play with options

>> No.18689176

>>18689129
What about natural gas plays? Is OKE safe they seem to be over-leveraged due to their debt?

>> No.18689179

Im going all in on DVAX fuck it

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>>18689118
>Also analysts are a meme.
as are lines in charts but they come true more than half the time because everybody else draws the same lines

>> No.18689182

>>18689133
Holy shit bro, only use like 10% of your total investment to play options Jesus

>> No.18689183
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>>18688992
Based or cringe?

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>>18689133
At least you have $100. This guy is left with -2,720.06.

>> No.18689195

>>18689183
Profit taking?

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>> No.18689205

pulled out of all stocks but GOOD

avg price 14.13

if I can sell for a profit i'll enter back into QQQ on a down day, otherwise just accumulating and dividending.

tempted by SPHD when it's low but swing trades are only gonna net you 1-3% moves, though I will take them every time. shit adds up.

>> No.18689215

>>18689181
They can give pumps when they upgrade them, but they don't really matter. GE's largest segment is Aviation. Like lol.

>> No.18689227

>>18689205
If you like divvys look at NEE and BIP/BIPC.

>https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/22/nextera-energy-aims-to-increase-dividends-10-per-y.aspx

>> No.18689241

>>18689165
I knew the risk, but didn't actually think about the consequences, I'm not sure that I'll stop using options.

My current income is 1k a month, with 1.2k rent. Life saving is about 20k$

>>18689182
Yup, I've used 100%

>> No.18689254

>>18688951
Nope im still up i got in at 30 cents on both stocks. Commentary on oil would be appreciated, small cock :)

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got in AMD at 54, ABT at 95.50 avg... how fucked am I on monday

>> No.18689264

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_VL3gunTBg

Holy shit this guy is based. Newfags looking for plays, watch this.

>> No.18689265
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>DIX is down which means people are buying less
>GEX is dropping which means volatility is also dropping
>S&P 500 is rising
This is a good thing right? Or is earnings going to flip everything the opposite way?

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How is this real if my eyes aren't real?

>> No.18689285

>>18689262
AMD is going to moon I wouldn't worry

>> No.18689286

>>18689265
Oh no no, GEX going down means more volatility, DIX going down means less buying pressure, Both are moving bearish.

>> No.18689302

>>18689183
damn he must have been up to 400K+ on those peaks
lol

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>>18689285
This guy tried to fight AMD and lost.

>> No.18689308

>>18689286
Ahh, I see, so that means most earnings are going to flop right?
If so I wouldn't mind placing a few safe puts here and there.

>> No.18689315

>>18689303
Dude, If I wanted to read r/wsb I would go there.

>> No.18689326

>>18689315
Point taken.

>> No.18689331

>>18689187
lol margin traders

>> No.18689334

>>18689091
cashing out at the peak from what should be a $10 stock at most

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>>18689183
>This was almost me but only 80% instead of 100

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>>18689045
>Freaking Camera App.
>$150 a share.
God boomers are dumb.

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>>18687771

>> No.18689378
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bullish

>> No.18689408
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>young and middle-aged Americans dying of strokes

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>>18689378
>CoronaVirus toes.

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>>18689378
I've had so many strokes since this shelter-in-place thing began
I'm even stroking right now

>> No.18689452

>>18689118
>analysts are a meme
Also this but man do the normies eat it up. A big company says a big normie stock should go to so and so price. Watch as it pumps with no reason, the financials are the same or similar yet somehow a pump happens. Non meme stocks a different story considering how many analysts have a sub 50% correct ratio....probably.

>> No.18689455

>>18689420
hoho

>> No.18689463

>>18687904

You really think we are going to bounce back to sub 5% unemployment in one or two months?

>> No.18689466

>>18689104
>Don't fuck around with mREITs like NLY and NRZ
Any reason as to why besides the high likelihood stocks and economy are likely going to tank more as the year progresses.

>> No.18689470

>>18689463
People are retiring early. Old people will drop out of the job market especially if they're scared of the virus.

>> No.18689505
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18689505

>>18689197
what a qt

>>18689286
>>18689308
>>18689265
DIX is down pretty insignificantly considering how high it's been for a damn month.

>> No.18689531

>>18688941
Why would you do anything physical when you can just get returns in the financial sector with all the innovations there?

>> No.18689540
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ok so what the hell is going on with the virus? why are all the officials/politicians saying that it will all be over within a month now? what the fuck happened?

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>>18689540

>> No.18689554
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>>18689540
People are saying the shutdown will be over not the virus. How little attention have you been paying to the world?

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>>18689540
no people left to infect in a month

>> No.18689573

>>18689552
There you go. Close to herd immunity

>> No.18689580

>>18689540
people are beginning to wake up to (((their))) bullshit, the WHO is a fraud and trump has been calling these people out from the beginning. look at thailand or sweden, no stay home orders and everything is fuxking fine

>> No.18689582

>>18689540
money

>> No.18689594

>>18689540
The numbers are in and they aren't nearly as bad as expected. They don't think we need to be in full lockdown anymore.

>> No.18689601

>>18689466
They work off mortgage backed securities and such. Basically leveraging their exposure to market conditions, it's why they can get such high divvys in normal times.

>> No.18689608

>>18689554
hey I follow that cosplayer. girl loves showing off her holes a bit to much.

>> No.18689623

apparently IL extended the shutdown until the end of May
why? that's such a long time from now...

>> No.18689637
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Is whiting gonna go back up?

>> No.18689639

>>18689608
Have you told your family yet?

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>>18689623
i'm in texas... shits gonna be opening up next week. almost like this was all a nothingburger to begin with

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>posting porn on /biz/
ngmi
>trading cryptoshit
ngmi
>thinking this isn't the "return to normal"
ngmi

>> No.18689661

>>18689623
To have a legal basis for arresting street monkeys.

>> No.18689665

>>18689650
>Just a flu bro
>Nothing Burger 2: Burgerloo Strikes Back

>> No.18689669

>>18689637
no, they're literally bankrupt

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>>18689669
I cant wait for the next few months when the papers will be non-stop bankruptcies.

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hope you enjoy the new smilies

>> No.18689692

>>18689045
Facebook announced their own Zoom competitor. But really that price should be in the single digit range. Zoom is a "once in a decade" shorting opportunity that will give upwards of 100X returns if you could just time the put.
>>18689049
No company that has become dependent on gibs has increased in stock price over time. They might become permanent zombies, but their shares are trash to hold.

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>>18687677

>> No.18689714

>>18689692
>>18689045

The premiums on Zoom are fucking insane. I paid $7 for ZM 120 Jun 19 puts and after they drop they are $8. They are still $40 OTM.

>> No.18689720

>>18689689
AFAIK there are only three types of smilies:
:)
:D
:^)

>> No.18689730
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>>18689656
>”playing” vn’s
>acting superior
Pick none
>>18689608
You follow costhots?
I thought that was over the top and then that other accounts were tweeting it was tip top kek

>tfw no shibari gf

>> No.18689742

>>18689720
>:{|

>> No.18689761

>>18689730
that can't be good for her spine or neck

>>18689742
that doesn't look like a smile face
(:

>> No.18689776

>>18689761
It's not a "smile" face, it's a stern, mustache face of disapproval.

>> No.18689782

>>18689505
I've been surprised how high it's been too, but look at how it's exponentially decreasing (besides the few outliers). 2-3 days and it'll be rock bottom with the rest of the market soon to follow

>> No.18689786

Buy REFR. Moon imminent.

>> No.18689796

>>18689776
Thanks Bob.

>> No.18689800

>>18689776
:o

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>>18689356
dont you insult my 1800P/E zoomer!

>> No.18689812

>>18689796
BP

>> No.18689821
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18689821

>>18689761
I'll be dead before I agree that :d isn't a smile

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>>18689730
Yeah I can probably unfollow since I wrote code to just grab all the images from accounts. Monday feels like an eternity.

>> No.18689957
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18689957

>>18689853
what programming language should I learn to get a work-from-home job with these silicon valley tech companies and also a cosplay wife who'd make a good mother?

>> No.18689969

Is HOG a good americana/meme investment Biz?

>> No.18689975

>>18689637
So many retail investors that stocks like this pump even when a freaking bankruptcy is announced. Tgat and or algos taking advantage of retail inveators by pumping ot so they can offload their bags on retail investors who fomo in.

>> No.18689988

>>18689957
Java, Python, C++

>> No.18689995

>>18689957
Java or DotNet. Java Script is also useful but not same as java.
Visual Basic is also very useful.
Cosplayers are typically not exactly stable normies most will make ok wives so long as you put a baby in them. Like most women I guess.

>> No.18690019

>>18689692
What other "bullshit" companies do you think are worth shorting?

>> No.18690028

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQZkeEiGZY8
>Cramer saying it's the new normal
dump eet

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>>18689573
meanwhile i've seen some reports that herd immunity is impossible for the wuhan virus.
it was something about researchers not being able to detect a difference in the blood of those that have previously had the virus.
can't find where i read that though, hopefully it's not true.

>> No.18690061

>>18688660
Barrick Gold

Still cheap even with the New Guinea news

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>>18690028
uh-oh

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18690077

>market pumped on the 13th
>TVIX dipped
>market pumped on the 20th
>TVIX spiked
What the hell? How the fuck does TVIX work?
If it rises and falls with volatility doesn't that mean that since the GEX is falling that now is a good time to buy?
But if that's the case then why wasn't TVIX spiking when the GEX was at it's lowest on Feb 18th?

>> No.18690080

So far I’m in on MRO, XOM, HAL and a few KTOS shares.

Next paycheque gonna be going majority in on RTX.

To keep things diversified as well I have a little bit of link, BTC and eth.

Am I gonna make it?

>> No.18690085

>>18690019
Uber and Tesla. Investors are so used to seeing a company not make money for 10+ years that it will take ages for reality to set in for Uber. I am absolutely convinced that Tesla's price is as high as it is because a significant number of its shares are people trying to short it.
Just tech in general, especially online apps with subscription services. All overvalued to varying levels like SNAP, NFLX, SHOP, NOW. All of them are being pumped to dotcom levels.
Zoom is just king among them because it can plunge independently of the others. Uber or Tesla going down would probably take the tech bubble down with them.

>> No.18690120

>>18690077
Different indicators. GIX looks at if the market makers/people are hedging for volatility or playing off it. high GIX means their hedges lead to a buy the dip stabilizing effect, and a negative GIX means they will sell the dip, like what happened in march after GIX crashed. It's a forward looking indicator, which what makes it so powerful.

>> No.18690122

>>18688218
This is really good advice.

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>>18690038
If it mutates like the flu or a cold then no herd immunity. It just sticks around until a new one just different enough causes another pandemic. This time it doesn't go away in the summer, it could strike any time, any where. That would be a worst case scenario. We end up living in a world where everyone has a virus that could turn into a deadly pandemic at any moment.

>> No.18690151

>>18689676
>protesting to literally wagecuck

These are likely the same people who complain about their jobs and wish they'd be rich but the moment they retire want to go back to working. Even if they were rich they'd probably desire going back to working. Ironic considering how I got called boring once in a non joking manner by a roastie'ish acting normie woman, treated as if though I'm a boring uninteresting loser by several. Yet out of the many people I've been employed with I'm likely one of the few who'd actually be haopy being retired and never having a job again. Heck I've been unemployed for over half a year now, happier than when I was employed. Lmao still need a job but heck I'm not even upset about it.

>> No.18690170

>>18690149
Oh boy,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

>> No.18690197

>>18687756
how about the trend + monopoly of big data and the digitizing of information that leads to cutting everyone sitting at a desk pushing paper.
>contracts need data. How do they get data reliably
buy link dumbfucks the stock market is a jew con

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>>18689704
recovery begins with another death spike. go out and spread the virus to save the economy

>> No.18690233

>>18690149
We might want to consider that the new normal anyway. The cat's out of the bag regarding bioweapons

>> No.18690284

>>18690077
TVIX tracks short term VIX futures, NOT the VIX. My understanding is when TVIX goes up, it means people are betting VIX will go up in the future.

>> No.18690286

>>18690120
Apologies for my confusion, I'm just trying to clarify
So what you're saying is
>High GEX means volatility is falling and buying pressure (the DIX) isn't as high, which means the S&P goes up
>Low GEX means that volatility is going up and that increases DIX which causes the S&P to fall
If the above is correct, how does this affect TVIX?

>> No.18690297

>>18690085
From your list, I see SHOP and TSLA as possible candidates for shorting because they're starting to go parabolic.

What do you think of Beyond Meat? It's not tech, but I think it's overvalued. The stock is pumping because of anticipated meat shortages. But, it seems illogical to me that people would turn vegan and buy a more expensive and shit-tasting product just because of that.

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just finished reading intelligent investor so I've gone and made a meme list of stocks that approximately fit all 5 (green) or all but one (peach) of the enterprising investor value criteria, other than bridgestone and kohl's I don't think I've heard of any of these, any opinions?

going to go through a few annual reports tomorrow and see if any are worth putting a bit of my IRA into, the majority of it being SWPPX and TIPS

>> No.18690347

>>18688660
More ET and USAC

>> No.18690374

>>18688533
Debt is the last thing you need anon. Think of all the people that got loads to invest in Bitcoin or bought mining rigs.

>> No.18690424

>>18688097
>5g stocks like amt ccl ctl Nokia Eric
What do you mean by 5g? 5 grand?

>> No.18690437

>>18688097
Also how many shares do you have of AMD? It's a company I'd have bought if i was into stocks back in 2013-2015 rather than 2019 where it's now expensive.

>> No.18690439

>>18690297
>Beyond meat, a company of 400 people that makes fake meat, have a market cap of nearly 7 billion which puts it above the value of Bank of America, American Airlines, Caesar Entertainment, Ally Financial, Mattel, Nordtroms, Dicks Sporting Goods, and Papa Johns Pizza

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>>18690424
No 5G like wireless technology.
Like 4G LTE is different spectrums/frequencies across the world.
5G also has different companies vying for dominance.

>> No.18690468

>>18690297
I think I would eat an actual bug burger before i'd eat beyond meat.

>> No.18690528

>>18690468
found the chink

>> No.18690548

This whole thread is was too bullish. I guess we are nearly at peak optimism. Probably time to see everyone get rekt, this or next week when reopening starts, nothing goes back to normal, people still have no money and stay unemployed and in the following weeks lockdowns are put in places again. Check out Singapore that's the future.

>Not holding puts btw, Just not falling for the slowest V recovery with the lowest volume in history.

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>>18689540
Gotta reopen. Too much stuff is vulnerable to bankruptcy even with the stimulus if this continues much longer.

>> No.18690576

>>18690120
>>18690286
It's the opposite. From the site:
>When GEX is a high number, it acts as a brake on market price. When GEX is low (including negative), it acts as an accelerator. Practically, the "brake" stifles the market's upside while the "accelerator" ultimately enables upward price action resembling a squeeze (in both form and function).

There was an anon who showed a very interesting comparison between the DIX and S&P 500 daily returns the other day. Bottom line, there was no significant correlation.

>> No.18690589

>>18689554
wtf is this cosplay? Here is girl """cosplaying""" barely contained anus (close up).

>> No.18690626

>>18690575
>>18689540

Literally no1 says it is over in one month. Experts don't even know if it goes away, come back in summer or in on October, maybe hit by a 2nd wave of the nothingburger?

The economic damage is done, recession was overdue long time and bankruptcies are already skyrocketing.

>> No.18690628

>>18689761
>that can't be good for her spine or neck
You’ll be surprise

>> No.18690637
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>>18690548
Give it a month. Market may stay optimistic longer than we think

>> No.18690655

>>18690548
recovery is going to be a W, just a very lopsided one

>> No.18690662

>>18690439
Ironic considering they likely make less profits and are unlikely to be anywhere near as profitable as any of those companies for a decade.

>> No.18690677

>>18690655

>> No.18690687

>>18690463
Oh thats weird ccl doesn't strike me as a 5g company lmao.

>> No.18690693

>>18690655
Then the question would be which low of the W is the lower one

>> No.18690717

>>18690693
Probably the one that's deeper in the recession, assuming we've already had the first.

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>>18690626
>The economic damage is done
Oh my no. It can get much much worse than this if quarantine closures continue long enough.

>> No.18690738

>>18690718
First lockdown will and was a complete waste if you need to lockdown in a few weeks again for the nothingburger. Then you will have some real economic damage. :)

>> No.18690748

>>18687680
NAME 5 STOCKS THAT DO THAT

GO AHEAD

I'LL WAIT

>> No.18690779

>>18690738
The Chinese govt who doesn't care about lives would not have locked down a province over a nothing buger

>> No.18690793

>>18690779
I know, neither does Singapore, why would they extend to fucking first of June over a nothingburger. Western countries are just desperate

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>>18690589
What is your native language?
I guess the photographer really wanted to get in close. I can’t blame him.

>>18690655
The new one I heard recently:
The square root recovery
√?

>>18690718
Why do people talk like this?

The closures won’t “end” or “continue”
They’ll change. Some shit will open up. Some things will be different. Expect less guests to be in a restaurant at the same time and takeout to be encouraged. Any cubicle type office drone business will be telecommuted whenever possible.

Movie theaters will probably have customers clumped together with the groups they came with far away from the other patrons. Amusement parks... I have no idea. Schools, quite possibly doing as much as possible from home and sports will change. Many business will never reopen.

Do you guys know how popular trampolines are suddenly?

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>>18690793
so then when is the return to normal? surely this shit wont last all year

>> No.18690839

>>18690806
>The closures won’t “end” or “continue”
>They’ll change. Some shit will open up.
I mean if shelter in place rules and that kind of thing remain.

>> No.18690840

>>18690810
Since we are far off from a vacchine (implying a vacchine helps) and basically all treatments and measures literally are failing right now, I'd say until new information come out.

Right now the nothingburger will be part of our lives and so will random police state laws.

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>>18690810
It returns to normal once the public gets fed up. This is only a significant problem in areas of high population density, areas where there is no community cohesion, where people don't know or care about their neighbors. People will die and nobody will care. Higher risk individuals will have to see to their own well-being. You can't expect people to hunker down in fear indefinitely, especially not the US.

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>>18690840
the anti-vacc people are going to have to do some serious thinking if the government finds a vaccine

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>>18690810
>>18690840
>>18690874
We 1800's now! Back to the good ol' days when every other person we knew died of some horrible disease.

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>>18690903
Track record for developing effective vaccines is very poor. Actually, we have a terrible track record for dealing with viruses period. For the most part, we just try to manage symptoms as they run their natural course. A quick, highly effective vaccine seems too optimistic to be reasonable.

>> No.18690971

>>18687707
Correct

>> No.18690994

>>18687624
I think next week we will start seeing some red in preparation for the next leg down. Was thinking of getting some AAL, MRO, SHELL and other boomer stocks. Really want to stay away from tech companies as I think they will be hit hard. What do you guys think?

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>>18690958
well i don't think it's going to be quick for safety reason, this time next year at the earliest.
however it remains to see what'll happen if people hear about a working vaccine held back from deployment by the reason "just to be safe we need to make more studies".
i can just imagine the hmmmms if a working vaccine comes out of china.

>> No.18691006

>>18687754
De Giro

>> No.18691007

>>18690994
I think small cap will be hit hardest but I'm 10k down so what do I know lol.

>> No.18691021
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how long does it take for me to buy my stonks after submitting an order an robinhood?

>> No.18691023

>>18687998
>>18688218
You sound like a bitter retard that got burned, kek. Get the fuck off of my board, zoomer.

>> No.18691025

So I've been trading stocks and ETF's since Xmas 2019 and I've been pulling in about ~$100 a month. I started @ 1000 to almost 1400. How can I reach 2000 by the end of Q2?

>> No.18691030

>>18691007
From what by doing what? Took some bad shorts?

>> No.18691043

>>18691025
You are losing momentum as you should be getting 140 dollardoos per month now

>> No.18691052

>>18688660
For me, it’s TMDX.

>> No.18691053

>>18691043
Well I'm banking on Oil and Mary Jane for the short term, maybe i can could get a cut of some stimulus money.

>> No.18691068

>>18691021
I don't use robinhood, so I wouldn't know. But my other trader frens have said its fairly quick (10-30 sec delay)

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>>18690197
You absolute new fag. Enjoy your satanic dimension with your chainlink bags

>> No.18691115

>>18691094
>>18690197
please sirs, a vishnu has been discovered on the botnet. Do the needful. You will be blessed with many happiness for buying the link.

>>18691052
you gonna play pfizer earnings?
maybe Merck or Abbvie?

>> No.18691117

>>18691030
Yep. I've been going long weakly during the pumps and getting ass blasted shorting overnight by gap ups. Should have stayed in cash, but the lure of catching the next leg down was strong and I basically gambled on it. This last crab walk up fucked me the hardest. Whoops.

>> No.18691174
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The more I get a sense of what's going on, the more I feel like:
A. That was the bottom for the finest stocks, but maybe not the indices
B. The stock market is NOT on sale right now, things are a little too hot

C. The real deals may be in the credit market, and that's what I should've been buying during the crash.

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>>18691174
>The real deals may be in the credit market
They were until a couple of weeks ago but Jerome went out of his way to trash the credit market as an alternative asset dump to stocks. Treasury bonds are as much of a dumpster fire as oil. Most of the lucrative bonds have been scooped up by ETFs and bought by Jerome.

>> No.18691214

>>18691174
>that was the bottom
No, it most definitely was not. This delusion is the definition of return to normal. People literally believe we are returning to normal. Thats literally insane to believe such a clear lie. NOTHING IS NORMAL!

>> No.18691218

>>18691068
Really? That's what I would've thought too but it seems my stocks are taking 1+ days to actually to through. Only 1 has gone through so far and it took just over 2 days.

>> No.18691236

>>18691218
Are you using settled cash?

>> No.18691255

>>18691236
Ahh I think this is it then, apparently the instant settlement feature is only for robinhood gold.

>> No.18691265

>>18691255
and Robinhood Instant as well. Robinhood is cool but webull is alot more relible. I had a small 50 buck account to play around with and it got the job done

>> No.18691305

>>18691199
>trash the credit market
Yeah in other words he put in the bottom. And if we were paying attention to how aggressive he had been being, it would’ve made for a profitable bet.

I really thought they were just too confusing for a brainlet like me, but even I could’ve used the gains from just buying a high yield etf and collecting that high yield safely in my Ira.

>>18691214
>People literally believe we are returning to normal.
Not really. Maybe in Georgia or something.

Uncertainty regarding the virus is still very high. But now that we know how dedicated the fed, treasury, and congress are to protecting the housing market, financial market, and at risk businesses, the economic uncertainty has peaked.

It’s still high, but we know they’re not as reckless as they were in 2008, we know there won’t be another complete collapse of a major bank or mortgage system.

It’ll be bad but now There’s a limit on how bad.

Your obsession with doom and overvaluation is making it so you can’t even acknowledge the good. You will compulsively poke holes, refute, and dismiss all of this, rather than admitting there’s any truth to it.

>> No.18691350

>>18691305
>It’s still high, but we know they’re not as reckless as they were in 2008
Massive bailouts is not because of less reckless behavior. So much of the economy is overleveraged with debt. For individuals this meant that they had no rainy day funds. For corporations it was risky debt they gorged themselves off of from low risk interest rates. And its a lot of the same bad actors from before because they knew they could be bailed out if they fucked up. Boeing is one of the prime examples of this.
"Capitalism without fear of bankruptcy is like Catholicism without Hell"

>> No.18691408

>>18691218
I use rh and almost never have delays more than a few seconds.

>> No.18691485

>>18691305
>economic uncertainty has peaked
>obsession with doom and overvaluation
The more people say things are fine when things are definitely not fucking fine is infuriating. We are over leveraged more than any time in history, now we have the most unemployment in history. The government is panicking and passed 2 TRILLION in stimulus, DOUBLE of 2008 and its not going to fix shit. ITS NOT FUCKING FINE! Everyone is fucking delusional!

>> No.18691555

>>18691485
No one has said it’s fine. Did you read the post? Are you drunk?

Everyone knows shits fucked, but it no longer looks like the kind of fucked that means a collapse in the healthcare system and riots on the streets of New York.

>>18691350
>Boeing
So infuriating.
But I’m not sure what your point is. I don’t think corporate America is all that much safer, but the efforts govt has put in means everything doesn’t happen all at once in a massive shitstorm of defaults.

Ideally, they will begin unrolling shit or just let the bonds they purchased mature/default when there is more certainty. Many companies will default that way, and the market and economy will take pain. But not all at once like 2008.

I don’t know who trump will get in there after powell, they likely won’t have the will to do that. I think powell might. But trump won’t be president forever, and this crisis will end even if the virus never does.

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>>18691485
okay doomer i heard you. now please step to the side and let me make some money.

>> No.18691717

>>18691265
I just signed up for webull, I honestly think I'll he using this over robinhood, the interface is so much nicer and gives lots more insight. Thanks anon!

>> No.18691791

>>18691557
Kek I like the spirit of this but I’m so sick of the søywojaks. Can we make it something more emblematic of the chicken little doomers?

>> No.18691892

>>18691791
not from me i wont put in that much effort

>> No.18692551

>>18687771
You missed the dip. Get over it.