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Anonymous Sat Apr 25 18:12:45 2020 No.18684680 [Reply] [Original]

How do I short Brazil besides $BRZU puts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 18:30:49 2020 No.18684918 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 19:15:12 2020 No.18685418 negotiate a lower price with your closest local brazilian tranny hooker

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 19:35:15 2020 No.18685616 >>18684680 hmmm I was looking for a weak economic trigger to short as CFDs Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 19:36:30 2020 No.18685633 >>18685616 Brazilian share indices? Embraer? Hmmm

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 19:44:24 2020 No.18685746 Short Embraer Go long on Boeing? Thoughts, /biz/ ?

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 19:54:42 2020 No.18685875

>>18685746
Boeing is a shitco
The 737 max crashes made it airbus' bitch.
The past two decades it was 50/50 boeing airbus, but going forward airbus is gonna get 55-60%.
Airbus also got hit just as hard due to corona even though more customers canceled more planes with boeing.
Airbus makes by far the better short range planes with the A320 and A220 being superior to the 737's (even before they started to crash and burn).
Boeing beats airbus on the long range with a very good 787 handily outperforming the a350 and a new version of the 777 coming out, also better than the 350 or 330.
(The 380 is gone btw, and the 747 doesnt matter much)

But the anticipation is that demand will pick up first for the smaller planes where boeing has shit the bed.
Oh no no no, nothing goes well for boeing.
Take the airbuspill.

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 19:56:53 2020 No.18685893

>>18685875
Oh, largest growth is by far coming from asia, with the US being pretty full with planes already.
So the domestic market is pretty small the next decades for boeing. Slightly less so for airbus with Eastern europe still picking up.
Also the tariff war of daddy trump pushes asians and middle easterners towards airbus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 19:57:32 2020 No.18685902 >>18684680 my parents are from brazil short erj and everything brazil related. Shit is fucking wild down there, civil war incoming. You heard it here first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 20:09:18 2020 No.18686033 >>18685902 Right - am gonna look into this asap. Also AIRBUS for the paired LONG :)

>>	Hank Sat Apr 25 20:29:40 2020 No.18686272 >>18684680 Bzq anyone have any opinions on it? I just don’t understand the economic situation in Brazil enough to feel comfy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 20:33:28 2020 No.18686314 >>18686272 https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BZQ Am gonna research this today

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 20:37:41 2020 No.18686368 >>18685902 Thanks for the tip

>>	Hank Sat Apr 25 20:59:05 2020 No.18686633 >>18686368 Embraer has connections with airbus. I wouldn’t short any airframe manufacturer at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 21:37:30 2020 No.18687091 Boeing up or down Monday?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 22:48:23 2020 No.18687946 File: 22 KB, 500x330, wow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bump Need keep this thread alive til I get home

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 23:00:20 2020 No.18688101 >>18686633 Explain. There are thousands of planes parked in the desert right now. Why would there be demand for new manufacturing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 23:02:43 2020 No.18688127 >>18686633 Also who the hell is buying mid tier to small jets? Isn't most private air travel outside of airlines shut down?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 23:10:07 2020 No.18688210 >>18685902 "markets" military love coups d'etat in latin america, though

>>	Hank Sat Apr 25 23:14:43 2020 No.18688265 >>18688127 Airbus has a large stake in Embraer. Boeing has a large stake in bombardier. Europe needs airbus. America needs Boeing. None of them will fail. Sure they may drop more in the near term, but eventually they will head back up.

>>	Hank Sat Apr 25 23:16:00 2020 No.18688282 >>18688101 >>18688127 >>18688265 I mixed up Boeing and airbus. Either way what I said holds. None of them will fail. They are backed by America and Europe.

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 23:38:14 2020 No.18688555

>>18688282
Thats what this shitshow was about right Boeing was supposed to be backing up Embraer by following through with this agreement where they would get 80% of the civilian part of the company. But now that Boeing cut them lose due to coronavirus means that they aren't backed like bombardier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 23:47:47 2020 No.18688659 honestly, I think that's a GOOD thing. IMO, Boeing wanted to destroy Embraer

>>	Hank Sat Apr 25 23:50:19 2020 No.18688685 File: 114 KB, 1024x583, 4B624B2D-30C8-4CDF-8297-39E5139C35E4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18688555 Nice digits. I haven’t heard about that, though I should’ve. Please excuse my niggery.

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 23:50:42 2020 No.18688692
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>>18688659
Can Embraer tank further or is this the bottom though?

Also what makes you think Boeing went through all this trouble to basically wreck a company that was going to let them compete in the mid and personal jet range.

I've flown in both a bombardier and Embraer planes before, and IMO Embrear, despite coming from Brazil, was so much better. A lot more leg room, comfortable and more modern.

Also how do we short Brazil in general, or are there stocks worth holding from them like Banco Santander Brazil?

>>	Hank Sun Apr 26 00:03:45 2020 No.18688838 >>18688692 >Also how do we short Brazil in general, or are there stocks worth holding from them like Banco Santander Brazil? >>18686272 Bzq reverse etf

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 01:27:39 2020 No.18689695 >>18688692 Short onions and iron Not even memeing

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 01:39:48 2020 No.18689808 >>18689695 I can understand Iron but onions? Does brazil even have a decent agri industry?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 01:45:24 2020 No.18689866 >>18685875 >build 30 planes >trade them for paper allmywut

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 01:47:51 2020 No.18689893 >>18684680 wtf? Didn't Boeing just get a bailout?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 01:50:28 2020 No.18689909 >>18687946 Home now >>18688692 >Also how do we short Brazil in general, or are there stocks worth holding from them like Banco Santander Brazil? Yep, let's get to work

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 01:52:17 2020 No.18689931 >>18689893 They also fired a couple thousand workers after getting said bailout money.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 02:11:26 2020 No.18690140
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>>18689909
Uranium futures up 36pc since mid march - perhaps worth checking anything ssociated with this for a long posn.
Embraer of course
Any indicies to short (as cfds or spreadbets) - place is a mess at the moment - justice minister ha just resigned over Bolsonaro's recent shenannigans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 04:31:26 2020 No.18691415 bumpp for interest

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 07:13:02 2020 No.18692599 File: 855 KB, 1600x1200, 1241817680444.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Come on - lets get some ideas here ;)

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