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>> No.18674908

add a slider for time

or post this function for historical highs and lows

>> No.18674910

>>18674889
I barely can read candle bars and now you're throwing this 3d shit
Fuck you op

>> No.18674929

>>18674910
Kek

>> No.18674933

>>18674889
i dont get it, does this have something to do with futures? what is delta?

>> No.18674979

>the BTC volatility SURFACE
>SURFACE
WHAT IN THE FUCK AM I WATCHING HERE

>> No.18674986

>>18674933
>>18674889
also what is IV, please don't make me do any research thanks

>> No.18674994
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Post yfw 2D charts don't cut the mustard anymore

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>>18674994

>> No.18675012
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18675012

there is no volatility only up

>> No.18675017 [DELETED] 

>>18674889
Holy shit that’s crazy? What does the norm of the vector quantities in the matrix multiplier vector cross multiplication matrix transformation induction indicator say? Up or down?

>> No.18675026

>>18674889
>IV
>BTC

Please don't tell me you are actually considering buying options on fucking bitcoin. Bitcoin itself is as volatile as a 10x leverage product.

>> No.18675030

Either turn this surface graph into green and red lines (green for good, red for bad) or I am leaving this thread

>> No.18675031

>>18675017
ur mom enjoyed my inner product lmao

>> No.18675032

>>18675017
it says *cums in your mother's dirty pussy bareback* you were a mistake

>> No.18675040

>>18675032
holy shit based

>> No.18675061

>>18674889
Literally have been in crypto for a decade. rich AF and idk wtf this shit is i am looking at. how about you explain this anon because it looks like unnecessary chart wizardry.

>> No.18675081

>>18675061
Look up what options are. This surface shows how implied volatility is calculated.

>> No.18675105

>>18675081
i've read a dozen different articles on options and i still don't understand completely how you're supposed to make money off of them

>> No.18675110

>>18675105
You don't lol. I lost 0.5 BTC trying to short the S&P with options.

>> No.18675124

>>18675110
fuck that. just use a practice account until it starts making sense. i've heard that they're only used as a safety net anyway

>> No.18675148

>>18675124
Hey man, the entire economy is going down the toilet and oil went fucking negative. No time to practice.

Now for something actually educational: The above surface shows how IV is calculated which affects the price of options. Many people overlook this and get utterly rekt when they buy while IV is high.

>> No.18675160

>>18674889
Bro you found this too? Lol

>> No.18675181

>>18675124
>>18675148
I trade options. IV being low is good. You buy an option with high iv you get crushed even if the trade moves in your favor. Also welcome to the real world.

>> No.18675190

I’m interested to hear OPs thoughts.

>> No.18675205

>>18675148
so premiums are cheap because IV is low, so the best thing to do is buy call options? can buy at the strike price whenever I want? can I just pocket the difference instead of forking out money I don't have?

>> No.18675207

>>18675181
>You buy an option with high iv you get crushed even if the trade moves in your favor.
That's what happened to me, lol. Fuck options, I'll just trade mini futures from now on.

>> No.18675235

>>18675205
I think IV matters more the more OTM the option is, but the idea is generally right. But you shouldn't listen to a guy who is just lost 70% on options on trading advice.

>> No.18675243

>>18674908
>add a slider for time
just use a 4d chart

>> No.18675275

>>18675235
ok IV is going down which is good, and presumably Bitcoin is a no brainer as pretty much every currency in the world is going to experience huge amounts of inflation. a call option in theory has less risk than actually owning Bitcoin itself, right? it just sounds complicated. idk if I want to risk money on something I don't fully understand

>> No.18675282

>>18675275
>a call option in theory has less risk than actually owning Bitcoin itself, right?
No. Your call options could easily expire worthless. Bitcoin going to zero is unlikely. Just buy and hodl.

>> No.18675343

>>18675282
>when you blew two grand on options instead of just buying eth

>> No.18675354

>>18675282
https://www.investopedia.com/trading/beginners-guide-to-call-buying/

actually, buying call options requires you only pay the premiums which is a lot less than paying for a bitcoin itself, and you could still get some good rewards. worse comes to worse you'll be losing a lot less money too, but that's just going on what I've read. call options are easier to understand than put options

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>>18675243

>> No.18675370

Imagine buying bitcoin right before it collapses lmao

>> No.18675376

>>18674889
>october 2019
why has noone noticed this?

>> No.18675378

>>18674889
Normally I would say fuck you and your meme lines.
But what the fuck is this?

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>>18675243

>> No.18675417

>>18675376
did you also notice the axis that says 200 days

>> No.18675560

>>18675417
this information tells me nothing

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I have no idea what any of this means

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>>18674994
>mfw we’re supposed to be freaking out over a BTC surface chart for October 2019

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>>18674889
Thank me later
https://skew.com/dashboard/bitcoin-futures