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18653756 No.18653756 [Reply] [Original]

>people think I'm neet
>I own 3 rental properties

How do I cope with this feel?

>> No.18653771

>>18653756
You are a neet.

>> No.18653775

>>18653771
I guess so if you classify business owners as neet.

>> No.18653782

>>18653756
>Don't call me a NEET! I have pride, I'm a parasite!

>> No.18653810
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>>18653782
>people who invest and provide housing are parasites
>those who waste their money on frilivous shit are not
Leftists deserve to be burned alive desu.

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>>18653782
>wants everything handed to him for free
>calls someone else a parasite
Just a reminder rent WILL be due soon. I hope you didn't blow your money on star wars dolls.

>> No.18653872

>>18653756
Get a job?

>> No.18653874

>>18653810
>Anime libertarian retard

I engage in online not assisted arbitrage. What I do creates no actual value, but I'm not on here pretending like I provide a service.

>> No.18653875

>>18653810
Ok well I just took out a loan to buy all the air. I'll mail you the air bill next month for all the air I provided you.

>> No.18653880

>>18653810
you don't provide anything

>> No.18653918

>>18653858
uhhhh based dept

>>18653874
Imagine being a seething bootlicker lmao
>What I do creates no actual value
Arbirage actually creates value but okay.

>>18653875
>uy all the air.
Too bad things that are virtually unlimited resources aren't actually for sale in a free market.

>>18653880
Places for people to live?
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>> No.18653936

Reminder that socialists deserve to be burned alive.
Reminder that only like 35% of americans rent and at the same time american leftists pretend like owning a home is an impossible task that only the bourgeioise can do lmao.
Most Americans own their homes.

>> No.18654020

>>18653810
>provide housing
Be honest with yourself, you "provide" an overpriced service. How often do you interact with your tenants or properties outside the context of rent payments and fixing broken shit as cheaply as possible? Your "investment" takes zero skill and contributes nothing of value to the community. Were a family to own the property that you rent out, they would be able to build equity and create a future for themselves. Instead, you use the profit from that transaction to, as you projected onto me, >waste money on frilivous shit
kys you subhuman parasite, you create NOTHING of value
>>18653858
i own the house out of which i run two businesses, eat shit

>> No.18654086

>>18654020
>overpriced
this is literally your subjective opinon man
If housing units are overpriced, it means the supply is low and it creates an incentive for people to invest and provide more of them to people.
It's the government that is preventing a massive amount of housing units from being built.

>How often do you interact with your tenants or properties outside the context of rent payments and fixing broken shit as cheaply as possible?
A decent amount.
It doesn't matter though, my original underconsumption, investment and time spent personally fixing the property is what matters.
>Your "investment" takes zero skill
Wrong, also it's not skill that matters, it's value.
>contributes nothing of value to the community
HOUSING is nothing of value? lmao
>Were a family to own the property that you rent out, they would be able to build equity and create a future for themselves.
Most people DO own their own homes.
I'm providing a service to those who aren't in a financial situation to be able to do this.
>you use the profit from that transaction
Oh no, how horrible, profiting from benefitting society.

>> No.18654103

>>18653756
Quit being a fat and ugly neck beard

>> No.18654145

>>18653810
I shill against landlords because I want the market to drop so I can buy in cheaper. I'm spamming all the commie shit all over twitter encouraging them to default, just to spread FUD. Go on, capitulate already so I can buy housing bags on discount.

>> No.18654166

>>18653756
>people think I'm neet
Larp more. Most normies have no idea what a neet is.

>> No.18654175

>>18654103
im cute tho
>>18654145
>I shill against landlords because I want the market to drop so I can buy in cheaper.
In that case, dont shill against us, shill against central banking.
The only reason housing is so expensive is central banks are propping it up and fucking over renters.

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>>18653810
Weak bait

>> No.18654192

>>18654086
>It's the government that is preventing a massive amount of housing units from being built.
Done at the behest of landlords.

>> No.18654219

>>18654086
The house exists whether or not you own it. You created nothing, you are a middleman. You did not build the house, and you do not create things that other people want to buy.
>Wrong, also it's not skill that matters, it's value.
And your involvement in the process does not create value. You are the steward for an existing creation from which you make money because you happen to own and, I'm willing to bet because you're posting bait self justification threads on /biz/, barely maintain it.
>HOUSING is nothing of value? lmao
Your ownership and involvement is nothing of value. The structure, the housing itself, is the value.
>I'm providing a service to those who aren't in a financial situation to be able to do this.
By competing in the market to own three rental properties, you have contributed to higher prices and lower supply for people who want to own their homes, all because you want to make money to effectively do nothing.
>profiting from benefitting society
if you died tomorrow your community would not notice that you stopped "providing" your bullshit service

>> No.18654302

>>18653756
How’d you get a mortgage with no w2

>> No.18654304

>>18654086
You're fundamentally the same as the people that bought up loads of toilet paper and "provided" it in on ebay for an upcharge. I'm PRoViDINg a WAy FoR PeOPLe tO WiPE TheIr aSS. When you know you're just exploiting a situation.

>> No.18654323

get a hobby, get /fit/, build more wealth, network, get in to philanthropy,

>> No.18654335

Fuck you OP

>> No.18654360
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>>18653782
Hihihi based.

Also check these dubble integers at the end of my post id

>> No.18654371

>>18653756
When all the offices open back up, go to Starbux in your jammies at around 8am and order a hot coco, dont forget your switch.

>> No.18654377

>>18654177
What "bait"?
Is this not the business board?

>>18654192
>Done at the behest of landlords.
Not entirely true, but yes, I agree, government policy benefits homeowners at the expense of those who don't own homes. It's statism anti-free market bullshit.

>>18654304
>You're fundamentally the same as the people that bought up loads of toilet paper and "provided" it in on ebay for an upcharge.
lmao not even fucking close you brain dead neet
I actually provide and maintain housing unlike you.
The main difference between me and you is the fact I SAVED and INVESTMENT my money while you bought dragon dildos.
Getting rid of the landlord won't make housing less expensive. This one of the oldest fallacies.

>> No.18654405

>>18653782
>the parasite projection again
you are the one who wants to live in someone else's house for free, you are the parasite

>> No.18654427

>>18654219
>The house exists whether or not you own it. You created nothing
The houses I bought were unlivable dumps before I bought them. I renovated them and made them livable.
You on the other hand provide nothing.
>You did not build the house
I saved up money(contributing to economic production without consuming it) and bought it from someone who did.
You did nothing.
>And your involvement in the process does not create value.
Putting rental units on the market that didn't use to be there doesn't create value?
>barely maintain it.
Do you have any idea what landlords do.
I can see you don't own any property whatsoever.
65% of americans do. Why don't you?
>The structure, the housing itself, is the value.
lmao the structure was nothing before I renovated and maintained it.
>you have contributed to higher prices and lower supply
Complete opposite. I have contributed to LOWER prices for rental units(because this is what the market demanded) making it EASIER for people who aren't in a situation to own a home to be able to save more money to buy a home.
>if you died tomorrow your community would not notice that you stopped "providing" your bullshit service
If all the landlords died, the people living in these rental units would go homeless in 1-2 months desu

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>>18653874
>>18654219
>>18654020
OP creates value by letting people sleep under a roof, when they otherwise can't get approved for a mortgage.

OP has bills. Why should rent be free?

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The leftists parasites seething at "muh landlords" will NEVER EVER EVER take the inititive to actually save up enough money to buy their own property. They will stay perpetual losers forever.
The majority of the population is in a different economic class as them(home owners) and would have them KILLED at a moments notice if they ever tried anything lmao.

>> No.18654495

>>18654166
low IQ

>> No.18654517

>>18653756
They are just jealous anon don’t bother your self with the silly opinions of other people focus on you!

>> No.18654520

>>18654377
>Putting people in a worse financial position into indentured servitude for you to pay off your mortgage and then ripping them off a little more for profit isn't exploiting them.

>>18654470
>OP creates value by letting people sleep under a roof, when they otherwise can't get approved for a mortgage.

That's why capitalism is fucked up because poor people have no choice but to get exploited by OP to pay his mortgage or have no shelter.

>> No.18654526

>>18654175
Oh I am. I'm just shilling a total revolution, "workers, cast off your chains!" and such. Leftists are all pussies so I doubt they'll actually rise up, but anying I can do to help generate FUD is good.

>> No.18654547

>>18654520
How about you stop being such a retard and MAKE MORE MONEY?

>> No.18654560

>>18654377
>Increasing the supply of houses for sale won't decrease the cost of buying a house
>Cutting completely unnecessary middlemen out of the housing market won't decrease the cost of housing
Stop deluding yourself.

>>18654377
>Not entirely true, but yes, I agree, government policy benefits homeowners at the expense of those who don't own homes. It's statism anti-free market bullshit.
I mean it was also done for the sake of bankers.

>> No.18654565

>>18654304
So what? Morality is a spook.

>> No.18654566
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We don’t have a housing problem. We have a transportation problem. Plenty of affordable places in flyover states. But no, liberals want to live in overpriced, overpopulated shitholes. Also, if you’re rent is too expensive get a roommate or two.

>> No.18654569

>>18653782
Neets are parasites your whole point conflicts itself

>> No.18654573

>>18653858
he based

>> No.18654580
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>>18654520
It makes me so happy knowing you will never make it. None of your shitcoins will ever moon, your oil stocks won't produce the returns you need, you will never do anything with your life despite having a college degree and you will be forever stuck paying people like me just to have a roof over your head. You will cope with it by spending the leftover pennies you have on feel good media and possibly drugs.

>> No.18654604

>>18654520
>>Putting people in a worse financial position into indentured servitude
This makes no sense. It's like you're saying farmers that sell apples are putting people into indentured servitude by selling them food.
>ripping them off
This is your retarded opinon and has nothing to do with reality.

>That's why capitalism is fucked up
Why are you bootlicking parasites even on this board?
Go defend your precious central banks elsewhere, cuck.

>exploited by OP
How are they "exploited" by me, if almost anyone can do what I did if they only saved their money instead of spending it on consumption?

>>18654560
>>Increasing the supply of houses for sale won't decrease the cost of buying a house
The housing/rental ratio is competely dependant on how financially ready/willing people are to purchase houses.
If we took the rental units out of the picture, it's not like people who couldn't afford housing would have more housing to live in, they would just be homeless.

>unnecessary middlemen
The market demands it, it's definitely neccessary.
You're a fucking loser, you are unneccessary lol

>>18654580
Unbeliavably fucking based

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>Own triplex
>Rent out other two units
>Live for free

>> No.18654611

>>18653756
Realize that employment, education, and training are the normie methods for generating income and that you took a different path.

>> No.18654621

Imagine being such a financial failure that you come up with retarded justifications as to why you're such a loser.
Meanwhile 65% of the population is able to own a home, yet you're a fucking failed human lmao.

>> No.18654685

>>18654604
No because if I pay the farmer for food then the food becomes mine. If the bank doesn't let me get a mortgage then I'm forced to pay YOU (the exploitative middle man) for the place to live in the form of "rent" and then you pay the mortgage. And then you still own the place? So I'm paying for the thing... and you still own the thing... I'M PAYING YOU FOR A THING. AND YOU"RE KEEPING THE THING all because of the retarded system we're in.

>> No.18654697

>>18654685
abluuuuu abluuuu i’m too retarded to sell something
just gonna go back to the cash at burger king tmrw
when I get home (not mine) im gonna curl up in a ball and cry
because i’m so poor
and retarded
abluuuuu
forever poor
i want my MOMMY!

>> No.18654721

>>18654697
See, you can't logically justify it so you resort to that.

>> No.18654727

>>18654721
I'm the rightful owner of my property. I don't have to argue with your broke ass.

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>>18654721
The only justification we need is that it makes us money.
>>18654727
Fucking based lmao

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>>18653810
NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST CHARGE ME TO LIVE IN YOUR HOUSE

>> No.18654748

>>18654470
>Why should rent be free?
That's not my argument, i'm just letting OP know where he stands in the hierarchy of adults with positive cashflow, which is somewhere close to the bottom.
>>18654427
>unlivable
That's somewhat irrelevant, a person who wanted to own it and live there would have renovated it for themselves.
>I saved up money(contributing to economic production without consuming it) and bought it from someone who did. You did nothing.
Good for you, you used to be productive and now you are a leech. It's okay anon, just try not to entertain any embarrassing ideas that what you do now is somehow an achievement. I currently run two businesses and own my own house, so I respect the effort that it took to get where you are. My problem is with the fact that you do not create anymore and think you're still contributing something of value to the world. You're a bureaucrat.
>Do you have any idea what landlords do. I can see you don't own any property whatsoever.
I bought a dilapidated house on government lease land and renovated it myself because I grew up building homes with my father, a contractor. Maintenance is easy, handling the business aspect of a rental unit is effectively a solved game provided you are solvent for lulls in cashflow. Landlords are by and large paper pushers and you're a fucking joke if you can't admit that to yourself.
>I have contributed to LOWER prices for rental units
...and higher prices for ownership because rentiers compete against people who want to own property instead of rent. the combined effect of lower rent and higher property value is lower ownership rates for people who aren't cynical wastes like yourself.

>> No.18654772

>>18654685
>No because if I pay the farmer for food then the food becomes mine.
You are paying the farmer for value. The farmer is providing you food, the landlord is providing you a place to rent.
If you saved up enough money and had an economic plan, you COULD purchase the farm in the same way you COULD purchase an entire home. You don't want to spend the time, resources and energy to do such a thing so you rent and/or buy food instead of growing it yourself.
It's like you're saying hotel owners or people who rent out tools are parasites because you aren't the one owning it. They're providing a service.
The economy as a whole creates MORE resources in general, more housing units, more rental units, more everything. If more people were in a better financial situation to be able to own, then it would become less economically viable to rent, rents would come down and a lot more landlords would sell to people.
>the exploitative middle man
The one providing you a service while you save up to buy a house(I also give you the option of not doing this and spending your money on other things instead of buying an expensive house)
>ecause of the retarded system we're in.
I'm sorry you got so brainwashed.

>> No.18654780

>>18654360
Re roll

>> No.18654781

>>18654735
>The only justification we need is that it makes us money.
uhhh based?

>>18654741
kek

>> No.18654797

>>18654748
>where he stands in the hierarchy of adults with positive cashflow
>which is somewhere close to the bottom.
And what, your rent is NOT liability? LMAO

>> No.18654799

>>18654741
>>18654772

Yeah it's "your house" when all you did was take out a loan and made someone else pay for it. It's basically a scam.

>> No.18654831

>>18654781
>The only justification we need is that it makes us money.

Ok, so yeah scammers mentality. In conclusion you're a neet that enables his lifestyle by scamming people into paying his loans.

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>>18654799
Ever heard of a JOB, where you pay off your mortgage?
LMAO

>> No.18654848

>>18654832
OP doesn't have a job that's why "people think he's a neet". His tenants has jobs and pays HIS mortgage for him. It's a scam.

>> No.18654860

>>18654748
>That's somewhat irrelevant
It's extremely relevant. It costs time, money and risk to be able to make a house livable.
>a person who wanted to own it and live there would have renovated it for themselves.
I agree, that's why 65% of the population DOES THIS. and why everyone else doesn't spend their time and resources doing such things.
> you used to be productive and now you are a leech
No, I became productive and now I'm enjoying the rewards of my productivity.
It's like you're saying workers who take paid days off are leeches.
>somehow an achievement
I'm not saying I'm Bill Gates or anything but I'm certainly better than the common labouerer who wastes his resources on beer and video games instead of self sacrifice and wealth creation like I did lol
>you do not create anymore
I already did and I'm living off my investments.
>Landlords are by and large paper pushers
Some of them work less than others, sure. I however renovated all my properties and it was a lot of hard work unlike parasites like yourself.
Landlords in general still contribute.
Why do you retards foolishly believe that if we abolished landlords, renters would have places to live, more disposable income etc. What you're saying is completely delusional.
>...and higher prices for ownership
Wrong, the market didn't demand ownership at this certain time so I ulitized the land for rent.
>because rentiers compete against people who want to own property instead of rent
Renters also compete against home sellers. If the economy as a whole was more productive and people had higher savings rates etc, a fuckton more renters would be forced through market forces to sell their homes to potential home buyers.
You are retarded.

> cynical wastes like yourself.
You parasites need to be liquidated.
Remember, you are only 35% of the population.

>> No.18654876

>>18654799
>when all you did was take out a loan
I saved up money for 2 fucking years while you were eating fast food every day you absolute fucking retard. Then I took on a massive risk of home ownership.
Please kill yourself if you are unable to understand this. I can't believe you people exist.

>>18654831
>scamming people
Imagine thinking providing housing for people where none existed otherwise is a "scam"

>> No.18654889

>>18654848
>His tenants has jobs and pays HIS mortgage for him.
After I wageslaved for 2 years, risked everything and renovated this house.

Why the FUCK don't you do what I did?

Oh because you're a "moral" person?
No, you're just a fucking loser that doesn't want to self sacrifice.
Kill yourself.

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>>18654848
>>18654831
The revolution isn't happening, you have wagecuckery to attend tomorrow, and rent is due. Cope with these facts however you want to but realize that they are facts.

>> No.18654915

>>18654848
Nobody forced them to pay.
You're just jealous. And poor. Get out and make real money, get a mortgage in the coronvirus market while you still can, and charge rent.
You pea brained neckbeard.

>> No.18654924

>>18654580
Based and Landlord pilled

>> No.18654925

The fact that ANY lefttard currently renting could have done what I did just through the act of not eating out every night and putting money into a savings account must make leftists seethe with rage.
The fact it's their OWN fucking fault is beyond hilarious.
65% of the population did what I did, yet these losers somehow think they're an oppressed class when they're in the majority.

ALSO there are countries with much higher home ownership rates than USA has, guess what, they're fucking poor countries.
I guess home ownership doesn't make you rich afterall.
ALSO, plenty of RICH PEOPLE rent houses.
At this point shouldn't you at least question your ideology?

>> No.18654927

>>18653756

Dress like an adult.

>> No.18654945

>>18654925
>they're in the majority.
minority*

Renters are the MINORITY in america.
There are many more homeowners than renters.
Yet leftists still think renters are the oppressed ones.

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>>18654876
>where none existed

Yeah but you're leaving out the part where it fucking existed already and the bank lent you money to claim it, glue this shit to the kitchen wall, and then scammed some sucker to pay off the loan for you and now you don't do shit and you can't believe some guy is actually paying for YOUR shit while you do nothing all day (to the point where people "think you're a neet) so you feel a little guilty so you come on 4chan to justify it.

>> No.18654955

>>18653775
Thats not a business lol

>> No.18655015

>>18654947
>existed already
It didn't though. The houses I bought were unlivable.
Even if they weren't. I bought them some someone else who previously made them livable. I underconsumed resources(I refrained from consuming society's scarce resources while YOU consumed them) and traded this value with another person.
>glue this shit to the kitchen wall
These renovations took 3 months of hard as fuck labour.
You're a lazy fuck and completely clueless. PLEASE kill yourself.
You're coping over the fact you are an actual parasite.
>scammed some sucker
Provided housing? lmao

>now you don't do shit
I do less labour yes, as I have previously underconsumed and invested, in the same way a farmer that grows food and sells it, gets to sit back and relax for a period of time after he has sold it.
>so you feel a little guilty
But I don't lmao

>> No.18655019

>>18654955
>property management and investment is not a business

>> No.18655024

>>18654947
If doing what I am doing is parasitical, why does it cost a massive amount of upfront LABOUR by working and refraining from consumption for such a long period?

>> No.18655036

>>18654604
>The housing/rental ratio is competely dependant on how financially ready/willing people are to purchase houses.
More people would be financially ready to buy homes if there weren't worthless parasites driving up costs while contributing nothing.

>The market demands it, it's definitely neccessary.
This is completely meaningless.

>> No.18655042

>>18654947
shut up fag you're also a fraud for selling cheeseburgers
when you can get the ingredients at walmart

>> No.18655048

>>18655024
>massive amount of upfront LABOUR
You worked 2 years in your worthless, parasitic life and consider a massive amount of labor. Really hard to see why people think you're a NEET.

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>>18655042
This. We should genocide wagies for perpetuating the fast food scam and making the west morbidly obese.

>> No.18655054

>>18655036
>More people would be financially ready to buy homes if there weren't worthless parasites driving up costs while contributing nothing
But an increase in landlords LOWERS of the cost of rental units you absolute retard.
If landlords were banned, it's not like you people would have houses to buy, you would just be homeless because you wouldn't be able to buy and maintain a housing unit.

65% of the popualation owns their own homes. Why don't you?
>This is completely meaningless.
The demands of humans are meaningless?

>> No.18655068

>>18655042
THIS

>>18655048
>worthless, parasitic life
lmao now you're just coping
I worked as an electrician for 8+ years before this. You're ACTUALLY a useless welfare neet parasite and coping at actual productive people.

>> No.18655087

>>18655048
Also no way does someone just up and buy three homes after working a whole two years. Either that other anon is right and you're just a scammer who got other people to pay the loans you took out, or you've lived your whole life on daddy's money and are now larping as a hard worker who pulled yourself up by your bootstraps.

>> No.18655088

>>18654520
>capitalism is fucked up because poor people have no choice but to get exploited by OP
In a capitalist society you are free to not be poor if you don't suck at life.

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>leftists claim landlording is super easy to do and they do absolutely nothing and get all the benefit
>leftists also refuse to become landlords even though they claim it's so easy to become one

Is there any bigger cope?

>> No.18655115

>>18655042
Someone who charged recurring rent on cheeseburgers would absolutely be a scammer.

>> No.18655121

>>18655087
>Also no way does someone just up and buy three homes after working a whole two years.
approx 1-2 years of saving for each house desu
Im 37 and have been doing this for years

>> No.18655129

>>18655110
Grifting is super easy, that's why it's so popular.

>> No.18655139

thats EXACTLY what you need people to think. Don't ever let anyone know what you have or don't have..Silent money my man, keep stacking that shit dont listen to these faggots on here who live in their parents basement

>> No.18655147

>>18655115
Why is a burger you can enjoy for 10 minutes fundamentally less exploitative than a housing unit you can enjoy for 1 year?

>> No.18655159

>>18655042
If I were a cheeseburger "landlord" that would indeed be a scam. If I made you pay money for the cheeseburger and it's still mine at the end.

>>18655024
>My scam took effort to set up therefore it's not a scam.

No. Even if it took a little time to glue all the peel and stick tiles to the wall to make it not look like the shithole that it is, at the end of the day

>>18655015
>Provided housing? lmao

You're not providing it. If anything you're tenants are providing you with a house by working a job to paying your mortgage PLUS profit while you just neet and shitpost.

>> No.18655160

>>18655129
>Grifting
lmao I bet you listen to vaush

>> No.18655189

>>18655129
yeah man everyone is a landlord. EVERYONE. Because it was so easy everyone would be doing.

>> No.18655225

>>18655159
>If I made you pay money for the cheeseburger and it's still mine at the end.
They're completely different commodities and work in different ways.
Services and products are different things.
It's like you're saying other services like movie theatres, tanning booths, hotels, and roller coasters are bad because they charge money to let you use something temporarily.
What is the fundamental difference between these things and renting out an apartment?
>>My scam took effort to set up therefore it's not a scam.
It's not a scam because it provides a service that wasn't there previously.
>Even if it took a little time to glue all the peel and stick tiles to the wall to make it not look like the shithole that it is
Well seeing how you're an actual loser that doesn't understand how difficult it is to renovate a house, I doubt you'd be able to even do that.

>You're not providing it.
I am. I purchased the house by underconsumption and I am allowing others to live there for a fee.
I COULD just not rent it out and do NOTHING with it and waste all my money.
65% of the country own their own homes yet you are unable to explain why your pathetic ass is unable to.

>> No.18655236

>>18655159
By the way, why are you bootlicking commies even on the business and finance board if you hate freedom so much?

>> No.18655251

>>18653756
stop being a kike and get an actual job instead of being a parasite

>> No.18655266

Imagine if it was illegal to rent out a living space lmao

65% of the country own their own homes. Imagine if these people renting out portions of their homes were banned from doing so. Imagine how EXPENSIVE the rest of the houses/condos on the market would be.

Why are socialists such massive authoritarian retards?

>> No.18655278

>>18655251
go back to leftypol you projecting parasite loser

>> No.18655283

>>18655236
Suck my balls landie

>> No.18655293

>>18655283
pay your rent lmao

>> No.18655310

>>18655283
take your meds.

>> No.18655321

>>18655147
Because after I buy the burger it's my burger. Because the government has not restructured society to ensure burger makers earn as much as possible for as little effort as possible, at the expense of burger consumers.

>>18655160
>lmao I bet you listen to vaush
Never heard of him. You sure like making assumptions. Is that how you live your whole life? Just make up bullshit and assume it's true?

>>18655225
>It's not a scam because it provides a service that wasn't there previously.
There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here. It isn't building or improving housing that is parasitic, it's renting them out. Had you chosen to improve and then sell housing, you could have made money as a productive member of society, but of course being productive doesn't have as good of an ROI as being a parasite.

>> No.18655383

>>18655321
>Because after I buy the burger it's my burger.
So?
It's like you're saying all services provided in the economy are inherantly exploitative. Are plumers exploitative because you can't use their services all the time? Are tool rentals exploitative because you can only use them temporarily instead of buying the entire tool? What about hotels? What about circuses?

>Because the government has not restructured society to ensure burger makers earn as much as possible for as little effort as possible, at the expense of burger consumers.
The government has not done that for landlords either, it's just basic property rights and contracts.

>ou sure like making assumptions.
They typically are true, especially for leftist bootlickers such as yourself.

>it's renting them out.
Why?
You can't actually explain this.
You actually think of the 65% of the American population, the homeowners, you think it's immoral if any of them rented out of portion of thier homes for some extra cash?
You're fucking delusional and a dumb authoritarian child.

>sell housing, you could have made money as a productive member of society
The entire reason renting is profitable is because society demands rental units to a degree. If people demanded buying houses more, they would do that instead.
What you are advocating for is restricting the rights of renters and forcing them to purchase expensive homes or fucking go homeless.
You're a delusional psychopath.
Without landlords, people would be forced to take on the risk and massive cost of home ownership, even if they don't want to and don't have the funds to do so.

>> No.18655411

>>18655383
You don't provide a service. You're literally on 4chan saying people confuse you for a neet. (which you are)

>> No.18655421

Similar, people think I'm a NEET and I have half a mil in my portfolio so I just lift, read, and play vidya now.

>> No.18655440

>>18655383
Another parasitical thing that's technically legal that's comparable to what you do is usury.

>> No.18655448

>>18655411
>You don't provide a service.
I provide housing to people without having to take on ownership, underconsumption or risk, this is objectively a service. If people were all forced to buy their homes instead, they would be taking on a massive risk and a cost they may not be ready to deal with.
YOU don't provide a service lmao kill yourself

>>18655440
Usury is a /poltard/ meme, holy shit learn basic economics and stop desiring your own impovishment.

>> No.18655594

>>18655321
>ou could have made money as a productive member of society, but of course being productive doesn't have as good of an ROI as being a parasite.
also, I'd like to add,
after renoing my houses, I could have sold them for like 60-80k profit
I decided to rent them out instead, take on risk and maintainance costs and get a slow but steady $12k in profits a year.

>> No.18655595

>>18655448
>I provide housing to people without having to take on ownership, underconsumption or risk,

"Take on" ownership. Nice language tricks there lmao!!!!!!! They have to work and "underconsume" so that they can pay your mortgage + profit. While you sit there, overconsume, get confused for a neet (because you are) and then "take on" all the ownership of the thing THEY'RE working and paying for. You just have to look at it from an objective stand point. Like say you're an alien looking at the situation, and you'd see who's getting fucked.

>> No.18655634

>>18655595
>Nice language tricks there
lmao imagine being on the business board without understanding basic concepts and terminology

>"underconsume"
Yes, it's called savings, something you would be doing if you didn't eat out every night you fat parasite.

>so that they can pay your mortgage + profit.
Yes, which I have worked for by investing in something that benefits society.
You have yet to disprove how this is socially beneficial.

>While you sit there, overconsume
No, I live within my means. I already underconsumed, invested and recieved what I put into the system lol

>THEY'RE working and paying for.
Because they spend what they recieve and don't save and invest.
Why is this so confusing for you?
How the fuck are you even on the BUSINESS AND FINANCE board?

>> No.18655759

>>18655383
>The government has not done that for landlords either, it's just basic property rights and contracts.
You yourself mentioned that the government is restricting building new housing. This raises the cost of existing housing and the biggest beneficiaries are, of course, landlords. The modern landlord owes its existence to the extremely anti-freedom practices of mass dispossession dating back to the industrial revolution era.

>> No.18655797

>>18655759
>You yourself mentioned that the government is restricting building new housing.
True, but outside from that they aren't doing anything. The things I mentioned about government intervention aren't the things leftists complain about at all in terms of the housing/rental market. If government wasn't doing these shitty things, it would just be a normal market with basic contracts.

>mass dispossession
This is something that used to happen back in England and some portions of the USA. It's completely irrelelvent and didn't really exist in the past 150 years of american history.
America has homesteading property rights mostly, this is why we had so much freedom and england was cucked by state land grants.

>> No.18655804

>>18655634
>lmao imagine being on the business board without understanding basic concepts and terminology

Listen, I know there's a whole bunch of pre-existing bullshit installed in your head that makes your situation seem "normal". But one day you'll see it for what it is. Until you'll just have a niggling feeling inside that something is amiss and you'll have to try and "cope with this feel" by posting on 4chan.

>> No.18655827

>>18653810
>the replies
Half this board is filled with moralfags

>> No.18655849

>>18653810
Most landlords I know are greedy/lazy and actively want to avoid maintaining their property..

Landlords aren't really providing anything, it's just our low taxes allow people to buy up one of the resources needed to live and force the hand of poor people. Its at a point where you can work an honest job for years and be held back over a decade in progress because you're paying inflated rent costs. If we weren't allowed to buy up numbers of property and let them sit(which, let's be real who GAVE the land in the first place? God?), rent prices would be livable and society would function better, IMO.

>> No.18655850

>>18655804
>there's a whole bunch of pre-existing bullshit installed in your head
There's a massive amount installed in your head though. I used to believe what you believed until I actually started learning economic science. Maybe if you grew up one day you will as well.

>that makes your situation seem "normal".
>OH NO HOME OWNERSHIP LIKE 65% OF THE COUNTRIES DOES, THAT'S EXTREMELY ABNORMAL
>OH NO RENTING OUT A HOME, THAT'S EXTREMELY ABNORMAL
How does it feel to be mentally deranged and having the vast majority of the population think you're a retard?
>niggling feeling inside that something is amiss
Not really, I'm happy I'm contributing to society unlike consoomerist losers like yourself that save and invest absolutely NOTHING. My OP post was just a meme, nobody actually thinks I'm a neet.
Imagine being on the business board and thinking that SAVING and INVESTING is some foreign and evil thing.

>> No.18655886

>>18653936
Pretty posh, myopic and out of touch opinion there my coddled suburbanite fren

>> No.18655892

>>18655849
>Most landlords I know are greedy/lazy and actively want to avoid maintaining their property..
Who gives a shit? Don't live there then.
Why do you think those shitty properties are so cheap?
>Landlords aren't really providing anything
I already explained how they are a million times in this thread.
Banning landlording won't actually allow currenty renters to have less housing costs, it will actually increase their housing costs and force them to take on more risk, that or make them homeless.
You people are extremely fucking stupid and should definitely kill yourselves.

Imagine ACTUALLY thinking it's better if some old lady didn't rent out a portion of her house and it just went fucking EMPTY.
How dumb are you?

>inflated rent costs
Why are all other costs in the market okay but rent costs are magically exploitative to you?
If we had a free market, rent costs would be much cheaper anyway.

>> No.18655894

>>18655850
Wait for the "hurr durr parasite" now.

>> No.18655897

>>18655886
I grew up poor, fren. My only interests are the betterment of society.

>> No.18655906

>>18655886
also, imagine thinking 65% of americans are out of touch? you make no sense

>> No.18655930

>all landlording abolished
>forced to buy a house
>all houses are expensive as fuck now due to the increased demand
>forced to be locked down in a 25 year long mortgage in a place I may not want to live in 6 months from now

Wow, great job lefttards, you really helped society.

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>>18655850
> My OP post was just a meme, nobody actually thinks I'm a neet.

But you feel like you're a neet. deep down inside, don't you. Don't you?

Don't you?

But yeah I was literally pretending to be retarded. I don't give a fuck if you rent to some wagies. I was trolling the entire time.

>> No.18655982

>>18655892
Why do I need cheap housing? Because I simply don't make enough with my labor, and you're free to make all manner of assumptions as to why. I was born without a father and I know plenty others like me who weren't born into homeownership. I can tell you that finding cheap rent is something you're out of touch with and much harder than you know. I think your opinions are likely rooted in a hatred of poor people and possibly minorities and that's why you believe what you do, not from any idea of what a fair world looks like.

But whatever the bubble is bursting, the need for living space for the growing population is something that's unavoidable and ethically, land was something that was never given to people. I'm a Rousseau kind of guy that believes if we want to be perfectly honest with ourselves all land ownership is illegitimate.

I have a great landlord currently, however I only see him when I pay rent and he's not fixed anything. He definitely doesn't provide a service to me despite taking almost half my earnings each month. I think people are waking up to how lopsided this arrangement is and they'll demand policy that's more fair at some point.

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18655989

>>18655971
>But you feel like you're a neet. deep down inside, don't you. Don't you?
Projecting much are we?
>I was trolling the entire time.
Sure you were.

>> No.18656004

>>18655982
>I'm a Rousseau kind of guy that believes if we want to be perfectly honest with ourselves all land ownership is illegitimate.
kind of retarded desu
Why not support homesteading land ownership instead?
Your system would result in poverty and stagnation, civilization and progress is linked with property rights and ownership.

>> No.18656017

>>18655849
I'm a landlord and I 100% agree that I'm lazy. I'm doing it for, almost passive income. I bought a house, price went up, I used the equity to buy a rental without paying a cent. Later, I used the equity of both properties to buy a third and then my mortgage repayments are paid by my tenants. After that my living costs will be paid by them.
I try to build a relationship with my tenants and year them well so that they will stay and year the property like it's theirs.
100% Ponzi, 100% parasite, 100% lucky.

>> No.18656019

>>18653775
being a parasite is not a buisiness owner. you have produced nothing

>> No.18656020

>>18653756
produce something instead of leaching off of other people's incomes

>> No.18656028

>>18653756
A lion cares not for the opinions of sheeps

>> No.18656038

>>18653936
most americans are old. what % of millenials own their own home? and gen x?

>> No.18656047

>>18656019
>production is the main measure of societal value.

>> No.18656051

>>18656019
>providing temporary housing is not producing anything
You people are just extremely stupid and ignorant, nothing else should be said.

>>18656020
Like a house?
Why don't these other people buy and rent houses as well if it's so easy?
I would LOVE to see you people get by without landlords and either be homeless or be forced to pay for an expensive risky mortgage lmao

>> No.18656052

>>18655897
Well share your story then, fren? I grew up with a single mother who was basically an invalid, no property and homeless(literally sleeping in a homeless shelter) and its been a struggle ever since. I feel I can consider myself the definition of falling through the cracks: poor yet everyone these days wants to subscribe to the school of thought that all poor people are where they are by their own fault (or all poor people are minorities). It took me years to save up enough to invest, and even with incredible luck, its not enough to really.change my life while the price of.everything marches upward against you.

For betterment of society? As long as they're under you and paying their rent, it sounds like a good society I'm sure. I think your idea of what's good for people is warped by your own desire to have vast ownership and constantly growing equity. It almost sounds like investment should be without risk and constantly growing, and that's the mindset you've bought into and many others with real estate.

>> No.18656069

>>18656052
>It almost sounds like investment should be without risk and constantly growing, and that's the mindset you've bought into and many others with real estate.
Nah, it's the government that makes real estate constantly go up.
If we didn't have central banking and the countless other interventions which pump up the housing market, the cost of housing would be constantly coming down.
The government does the same thing with education and healthcare.

>> No.18656113

>>18655110
It's to easy to do, not easy to become.
It's easy to be a millionaire but not easy to become one brainlet.

>> No.18656141

>>18656113
>not easy to become
then how was I able to do it just from years of self sacrifice?
If becoming a homeowner is so difficult, how can 65% of the population do it?

>> No.18656149

>>18656028
Yeah, but OP is a leech not a lion.

>> No.18656179

>>18656149
nobody can prove how my years of sacrifice make me a leech while your years of consumption don't make you one
Every single leftoid talking point was refuted in this thread.

>> No.18656184

The same scumbags that hate people that rent to others are the same retards that support central banking and the federal reserve.
I wouldn't take anything they say seriously.

>> No.18656223

>>18653756
Funny. I just sold my house for CKB. When Nervos 10x's, I'll buy it back for -30%.

Enjoy the crash of 2021-2022.

>> No.18656250

>>18653756
Get a whore or multiples of

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18656262

>>18653756
Cope on these 3 hookers

>> No.18656264

>>18656052
Why are you on biz if you're against buying and selling property?

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18656349

>>18654483
>get CS degree because all of society tells me it will make me employable
>turns out it's actually all a big social game/popularity contest and my degree is worthless
>it's somehow my fault for not taking initiative to save up money I can't earn
I'm not a leftist but this is fucking gay. It's okay to just admit you were born into the ruling class and don't give a fuck about dirty poors, but let's not pretend it's because we're just blowing our money on frivolities and everything is fair

>> No.18656359

>>18655110
>refuse to become landlords
delicious bait I simply must take.

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18656437

>>18654848
>Take out loan to buy car
>Buy car
>Sell car at higher price than bought it for
>Mfw now he has to pay back my loan

>> No.18656511

>>18656359
>>refuse to become landlords
Imagine acting like saving up for a down payment for a house is some impossible task when 65% of the population does it.

>> No.18656516

Why aren't they building new houses in areas where the jobs are?
Is construction stalled?

>> No.18656520

>>18656437
>>Sell car at higher price than bought it for
lmao good luck

>> No.18656531

>>18653756
I do it by telling them the truth. I do nothing, but collect passive income. Yes, I am fine with that. No, I don't get bored. Yes, thank you, have a nice day too.

>> No.18656605

>>18656179
dilate

>> No.18656636

>>18656531
But op needs people to be impressed and told he's a good boy that contributes to society.

>> No.18656640

>>18656605
pay rent

>>18656636
literally seething lmao

>> No.18656732

Fun fact: "homeownership" contains the word "meow".

>> No.18656770

>>18653756
I make 250,000,000$ a day from fraud. I am a bank transfer GOD.

>> No.18656881

>>18656511
It's not a matter of "market forces", or "morals", it's about the continued health of the nation.

Men not owning property is provably psychologically damaging and neuters the ability for the citizens of the country to start families and have children (the lifeblood of the country).

"It's so easy over 1/3 of your nation can't do it!" This doesn't set off any alarms whatsoever?

>> No.18656926

>>18656881
>Men not owning property is provably psychologically damaging and neuters the ability for the citizens of the country to start families and have children (the lifeblood of the country).
I agree, that's why I support a free market in housing and the abolition of central banking. The only people preventing a massive increase in home ownership are leftists and cucked "conservatives" who hate free markets.

>"It's so easy over 1/3 of your nation can't do it!"
2/3 of the nation, you idiot

>> No.18656967

>>18656264
Im here to profit and read about opinions, I just think its intellectually bunk to say that's the way things SHOULD be or that the landlord class serves a morally good purpose

>> No.18657051

>>18654086
not a single landlord i know has actually increased the housing supply. They only buy up existing houses.
the people who actually build new property or housing complexes usually sell to landlords, with a progressive land tax they would be selling to home owners instead.
Georgism is the future.

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18657064

Are Uhaul, Mr Tux, and Holiday Inn parasites too?

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18657284

Wagecuck here. Looking to work my ass up during the next 5 years so I can buy a decent property on a ghetto.

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>>18657064

>> No.18657444

>>18657293
A magnificent response! We also would have accepted a blank stare or or the Windows 98 shutdown sound.

>> No.18657513

>>18653756
I thank you for sacrificing your wealth and time, allowing the state to rape you in the ass with forever taxes, and jews to rape you in the mouth with interest and fees.... all to allow me to use a fraction of the money you spent buying your properties to rent one and grow my businesses that have returns which dwarf your total net worth in less than a year.

Honestly, if it wasn't for rich dumbasses like this buying overpriced real estate and then renting it for break even... or possibly a slight profit...despite spending tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy it or make a down payment for me.. I'd actually have to waste money on such shitty depreciating assets.

Property-cucks are the true preppers of the business owning bulls. Thank you for your service, now step aside while I fuck your woman.

>> No.18657586

>>18657513
^this is kind of true

To be fair though, not everyone is cut out for sales (all active business is sales), so I give them props for doing something.

>> No.18657619

>How to be a house-providing cuck
> Step one: Waste your youth saving all your money for a decade
>Step two: Use all that money to put a downpayment on an overpriced box, take a loan out on the rest
>Step three: Find a chad that rather have fun, start a real business or just invest in stocks and outperform you in returns for a fraction of the effort
>Step four: Spend the rest of your life dealing with the house to make a meager double digit return on your money.
>Step five: Watch your 10 year home investment decline 50% in value because some chink ate a bat.
>Step six (A): Beg the chad renter who owns you to pay his market rent and hope he didn't spend it on drugs and enjoying life instead.
>Step six (B): Call shekelstein attorney at law to file an eviction notice to your chad tenant who hasn't paid in 2 months. End up losing 2 year's profit evicting and replacing chad with a new chad.
>Step 7: Repeat steps 3-6 until dead

>> No.18657699

This is a juicy thread

>> No.18657828

>>18653810
>Provide housing
They ain't providing shit, they are inflating real estate prices thus forcing others to rent. Landlord is the parasite and renter is the host. If all the renters moved back to their family homes just for a few months all the parasitic landlords would go broke. Fuck (((landlords)))

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18658184

Look at the difference in return potential using the same money. It's just crazy how dumb it is to do anything BUT start a business.

>> No.18658236

>>18653858
I'd rather have rental properties managed by the government/public and pay them instead if anyone.

>> No.18658540

>>18654304
Why are leftists such moral weenies. Isn’t morality subjective too?

>> No.18658601

>>18653872
jobs are for poor people.

>> No.18658621

>>18654727
lold

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holy shit OP sounds fucking ass blasted
then again he's stupid enough to shit on the entire population of people that allow him to pay off his loans in the first place

did you ever consider many people don't want the trouble of living in a single detached family home? that the rent on a nice small apartment is half the price of PITI and so will be cheaper to live in for several decades?

>> No.18659062

>>18658184
Awfully optimistic, isn't it?

>> No.18659075

>>18653875

Nice childish argument

>> No.18659799

>>18653756
>NEET means not in education, employment or training
>"I own 3 rental properties"
So you're not in education, employment or training?

>> No.18659979

>>18653756
just read all your posts. you are completely delusional. this is coming from another landlord. just cause you spend a couple months fixing a house and an hour or two a week after to maintain it doesnt mean you are enjoying your "rewards" for the rest of you life you lazy faggot. go build something.

>> No.18660018

>I actually provide and maintain housing unlike you.

No real estate developers do this, you're just the middle man.

>The main difference between me and you is the fact I SAVED and INVESTMENT my money while you bought dragon dildos.

The only difference is that you bought earlier, a boomer could easily have bought 100k dragon dildos and a house with the price of a single house today.


>>18654377
>Getting rid of the landlord won't make housing less expensive. This one of the oldest fallacies.

Imagine unironically believing useless middle men don't drive up the price lmao.

>> No.18660057

>>18653756
If you're doing well financially, can pay all of your bills, and get/do things you enjoy then why does it matter what people think?

>> No.18660125

>>18658184
not sure if serious or actual retard

>> No.18660169

I hate all you commie fucks. I hope your landlords burn the buildings down with you inside for insurance money in minecraft.

>> No.18660198

>>18653756
>ITT people don't understand that taking on risk is providing value

>> No.18660227

>>18653756
I'm a home owner (mostly paid off), and I'm not so sure I made the right choice buying after I get done with insurance (I live in Florida) and property tax. My mortgage payment is like 5800 a month (principal, interest, insurance). My house has appreciated for now, but, who knows moving forward. The good news is my area is super affluent and even stayed expensive during the 08 drop. I really don't know.

>> No.18660278

>>18660198
Yes, land that well known volatile asset.

>> No.18660312

>>18660278
There was literally a real estate crash in 2008, are you dumb?

>> No.18661811

>>18660312
>property is too expensive reeeee
>property is not a good investment
Make up your mind, moron.

>> No.18661845

>>18660198
>taking on risk is providing value
Which chapter of the talmud is this from?

>> No.18661883 [DELETED] 

>>18653756
Why should you care what other people think of you? Just laugh at the fucking wagies anon.

>> No.18661884

>>18653756
the stupid don't fucking understand, I tried to tell this boomer fucker about the shit I do and how it works and he instantly got jelous and bitter, called me weird and said he hates guys like me. Fuck stupid people

>> No.18661918

>>18653918
> what is water

>> No.18661979

>>18653756
burn in fucking hell

>> No.18662593

>>18660227
I keep wanting to buy but when I crunch numbers it just doesn't seem to work out compared to renting a small apartment and investing money elsewhere.

>> No.18663641

>>18662593
The X factor is if I rent I'd be in a condo building, which I don't really like. To rent a house, I'd probably be cheaper to buy. For sure if you are happy in a small apartment, I'd think long and hard before buying a house. I don't think the math would make it worthwhile.

>> No.18664170

>>18662593
imo the whole point of owning a home is to leverage it. Especially if its a rental.
I guess you could leverage a portfolio of crypto, stocks, bonds or whatever you invest you in. You would have to look at how much it costs to borrow on margin at your brokerage vs mortgage rates
I think in USA you can write off your mortgage interest(owner occupied residence). However, in Canada we have to reorganize affairs to do so.
Other benefits include learning how to fix shit, generating cashflow, diversifying your investments.

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>>18653756
Based high effort SEETH-farmer

>> No.18664499

>>18657828
>they are inflating real estate prices
No they aren't, they're reducing the cost of rent.
Do you even understand supply and demand?
The only people increasing real estate prices are central banks and the government.
>>18657051
>They only buy up existing houses.
and turn them into rental properties thus increasing the amount of units to RENT.
A large portion of people don't want to buy or are not in a position to buy.
Why is this so confusing for you retards?

>> No.18664571

>>18660018
>No real estate developers do this
The houses I rent out were unlivable before I turned them into rental units and yes I maintain them.
You're a retard, landlords are clearly neccessary.
>Imagine unironically believing useless middle men don't drive up the price
If they were useless, they wouldn't exist in the market.
Holy fuck you parasites are actually stupid.

>>18661845
/pol/tards are just as retarded and economically illiterate as commies

>> No.18664603

>>18661979
jealous much?

>>18664470
It's great isn't it.
No matter how much they seethe, nothing will change economic reality.

>> No.18664657

>>18658236
So basically you still want to pay high rent costs but you want to live in shitty falling apart commieblocks instead.
You're retarded, got it.

>> No.18664754

>>18653756
OP, I'm sorry, but you are neet. I also have three rentals and live off that income, but I feel (and am) neet. Their upkeep doesn't take much of my time or brain.

>> No.18664800

>>18664657
Well community/public/government can mobilize resources and funds more effectively. Plus Communist flats are renowned for being stout (think Brutalism) and comfy. Compare to cheaply built wooden burger McMansions that get a lot of laughs. There is no profit to be made so buildings are made to last. No point in wasting time and resources on something that has to be remade if it doesn't has to. The rents would be cheaper because again it isn't a for-profit business anon.

>> No.18664845

Anti-rent brainlets don't understand that if landlording was banned, these housing units would be on the market to be sold but since it's illegal to rent now, the demand to buy a housing unit would go through the roof.
It's the same number of places to live in total, except now people wouldn't have the option of renting.
People who are currently now renting would be massively fucked over and forced to buy an expensive housing unit even if they don't have the down payment, good credit and don't want to take the risk or be locked down there for a long time.
This situation would cause massive homelessness.

Why do stupid people not understand the economic value of renting?

>> No.18664895

>>18664800
>Well community/public/government can mobilize resources and funds more effectively.
No they can't, they are historically really inefficient in mobilizing resources.

>Communist flats are renowned for being stout (think Brutalism) and comfy.
They were disgusting, had no privacy and fell apart. You're insane.
Nobody would want to live in one of those concrete prisons as opposed to a nice house or condo.
>that get a lot of laughs
By coping communist manchildren?
>There is no profit to be made so buildings are made to last.
There is no profit to be made so nobody gives a shit and the buildings fall apart.

>The rents would be cheaper because again it isn't a for-profit business anon.
That doesn't mean they're cheaper, it just means the costs are moved onto the taxpayer or through inflation.

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>>18655982
>Hatred of poor people
Yes
>and possibly minorities
of course

The only solution to generational poverty is for poor's to stop breeding. I say this not from an emotional standpoint, but a science one derived from the most comprehensive statistical analysis on the subject of life outcomes. If you are poor, you most likely have low IQ. If you have low IQ, that mostly comes from your birth parents who are also low IQ. Britain took over the world by executing the bottom 1-2% of their population yearly for crimes both petty and serious, for a couple of centuries, until their average group IQ rose to the 112-115 range, allowing them the human capital to control 25% of earth.

>> No.18665065

>>18664895

What are your rentals?

Single family houses?

How much is the rent per month?

>> No.18665073

>>18664800
>Well community/public/government can mobilize resources and funds more effectively
Lol no they cant. Try and whole apartment building sharing the same outdated wash machines in the basement that brake all the time because no one wants to take responsibility and fix them and the government doesnt have enough resources to buy or make new ones

>> No.18665099

>>18665073
>the government doesnt have enough resources to buy or make new ones
or the incentive to do so

>> No.18665135

>>18653810
did you build the house
do you do the maintenance personally
do you provide flat rate or free on utilities
no?
is your property rent to buy?
do you charge significantly under market value?

then you provide nothing to society that homeowners wouldn't get and exist to exchange inflated money from one pair of hands to another while feeling smug about it. literally kill yourself

>> No.18665154

>>18653756
OP is a retarded NEET faggot

>> No.18665211

>>18654483
>they'll never save money to buy their own property

b-boy i, i wonder why, the average largest expense on people's bills, related to their cost of living, is uh, what now? i ain't very bright so you'll have to help me out

>> No.18665263

>>18665135
>did you build the house
No, I saved up and bought it.
It does not matter that I didn't personally build it, I saved resources to purchase it.
>do you do the maintenance personally
Yes
>do you provide flat rate or free on utilities
They pay all the utilities.
>is your property rent to buy?
Nope.
>do you charge significantly under market value?
It's cheaper than most places.

>then you provide nothing to society
You haven't proven this at all you absolute retard.
Read this and disprove it:
>>18664845


>>18665211
>i wonder why
The actual answer is central banking and government policy which creates a housing bubble, but you're too cucked to fight the real enemy so you attack people that have nothing to do with the problem.

>> No.18665306

>>18665263
banks and landlords lock arms to be the problem. just because one is a bigger parasite doesn't mean you aren't either. i respect you personally maintaining the property, however.

>> No.18665336

Thank you op for providing a valuable service. Without you the irresponsible rent seekers you house would be homeless

>> No.18665350

>>18665306
>banks and landlords lock arms to be the problem
The problem is government you fucking retard. Banks and landlords benefit, yes, but it's not like it's a massive conspiracy or something, take your meds.
>doesn't mean you aren't either
I'm actually providing value to society by increasing the supply of units for rent.

>> No.18665419

>>18665306
>personally maintaining the property
while this admirable. Its worth pointing out that it might not be ideal for certain repairs. If a licensed professional doesn't complete a job and the tenant is harmed due to a faulty repair, then the property owner is personally liable.

>> No.18666476

>>18660125
Considering my personal business has been growing at over 250% per annum for the past 3 years... i am being a bit conservative on my business one and too optimistic on the others.
The only time growth really slows for companies is when they break $1b

>> No.18667471

Bros I want to buy and own a coop, found a few near my work that are nice and affordable (even taking fees into account). Read that there is a board interview for a lot of coops. Has anybody been through one? Seems like a strange step in the process

>> No.18668096

>>18667471
Most nice coops are a rich person country club style deal. You are buying shares in a company that owns the ground lease on a building. You do not own the co-op, you are just a partial shareholder. This is great for tax purposes because most of the monthly cost of owning the coop shares are to repay loans, taxes or leases that the holding company pays. They interview you because it allows them to block anyone that doesnt fit their community. You probably wont make it.

>> No.18668649

>>18664895
They are disgusting, had no privacy.

But those are not falling apart. Studies have been made that those ugly houses could stand up at least next 100 years.

t. eastern european

>> No.18668704

>>18666476
update us in next 3 years.

>> No.18668746

>>18668096
Lol it's definitely no country club. It's 35% the median home price in the area so I doubt it's all wall street investors. I'm single, work full time, college grad, no criminal record. What's the problem?