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18582862 No.18582862 [Reply] [Original]

Holding 'Steady' Edition

Are we going up or down?

>Buy
https://www.apmex.com/
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://www.bgasc.com/
https://www.gainesvillecoins.com/
https://www.jmbullion.com/
https://www.providentmetals.com/
https://www.silvertowne.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://www.sprottmoney.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://www.goldenstatemint.com/
https://www.libertycoin.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://www.muenze-berlin.de/
https://www.hollandgold.nl/
https://www.europesilverbullion.com/
https://www.celticgold.eu/en/
https://www.muenzeoesterreich.at/eng/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://www.kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://www.mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed]
https://www.usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo [Embed]
Magnets, how do they work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY [Embed]

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA Silver Bullion TV
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXPvtSNFvh9FJrwN02crJ_A money metals exchange podcast
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver mike maloney's channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClzSFvylrK8ij3KVwrHzjdA As Good As Gold Australia
https://www.youtube.com/user/McalvanyFinancial Golden Rule Radio

>> No.18583217

>>18582862
>buying in shitty metals
>not investing everything into oil

>> No.18583416

You silver Chads have any recommendations on good sites to buy storage tubes and capsules from?

>> No.18583600

Bought some coins for 18€ a piece. Austrian ones.

>> No.18583625

>>18582862
I'm convinced that gold will moon, but why silver?

>> No.18583686

>>18583625
it shiny

>> No.18583720

So are you just LARPers or do you actually have decent amounts of gold and silver?

>> No.18583969

>>18583217
>>18583416
>>18583625
>>18583720
Hello plebbit

>> No.18584243

>>18583969
LARPing then
gotcha

>> No.18584258

>>18583416
Google dot com; stick to the original tubes, or save enough to purchase silver in the original tubes, one at a time.
Buying the plastic for gold forward is OK; it takes more time to fill it.

>> No.18584436
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18584436

>>18584243
kys

>> No.18584550

>>18584436
Cool. How much silver is that, needlessly aggressive autist?

>> No.18585410

>>18583720
17 oz of gold and 850 of silver

>> No.18585412

>>18583625
When gold is too expensive people will go for the next cheapest thing

>> No.18585444

>>18583720
101oz suicide stacklet here

>> No.18585477
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18585477

>>18585410

>> No.18585486

>>18583600
good deal

>> No.18585548

>>18584436
no gold in your stack to tie it all together?

>> No.18585716
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18585716

I hopped on the meme train

>> No.18585816
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>>18585716
You haven't heard?
Red Dragon is the new memecoin

>> No.18585849

>>18585816
Silver Dragons...is that u?

>> No.18585879

>>18585849
they are back!
in meme form!

>> No.18585889

>>18582862
>hedged and bought silver at spot for 16.5 right before shtf
>fucking dumps and I would have been better off just holding my dow dogs

Fuck this meme

>> No.18585963

>>18582862
Should I buy more Crypto or more PM for the collapse?
t.Europoor

>> No.18585972

>>18585889
It's a hedge against recession. It takes a few quarters of monitoring economic growth to even see if there is recession. Not a literal month and a half

>> No.18586139

>>18585972
Nigga 20 million people lost their jobs in a month. The US doubled its physical monetary base. Thinking that this is similar to previous recessions is asinine.

>> No.18586162

>>18585716
uhhh 100$ for 5oz???????????????

>> No.18586173

>>18585816
That is sweet I'm about to order one.

>> No.18586226

>>18586139
Then hold on to your metals. PMs hedge against inflation and recession and I agree we will probably be going through both but it will be a few months

>> No.18586234

i feel extremely smug and comfy right now

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18586312

>>18582862
O man I am glad I never went into petroleum geology now

>> No.18586340

>>18586226
Yeah but I should’ve bought gold

>> No.18586419

>>18586340
You still can. Go to JMs in stock gold and check it every morning. I just checked an hour ago. They had varied 1 oz bars in stock

>> No.18586427

>>18586340
You still can.

>> No.18586490
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18586490

Just found out I've got 2.5k hidden away, just need /pmg/'s opinion on what you guys think would be the better buy before I go ahead. (pretty pissed I didn't have it months ago back when I was buying my major share of Gold/Silver, but what can you do)

Either:
- 32 Aus Crocs/Koalas, 2 Coronacoins (assuming spot price raises higher, this means there's 5oz more Silver total)
OR
- 22 Aus Crocs/Koalas, 5 Coronacoins (anticipating that the collectability of the Coronacoin will raise higher than it's respective price of 5oz spot, this could make more money in the long run)

Opinions?

>> No.18586518

>not buying physical
where did I end up here
this is disgusting

>> No.18587236
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18587236

>>18582862
Bought 10 half dollars today, 7 uncirculated. £94 inc shipping ($116).

>> No.18587372

So if Silvergoldbull cancels my order because they want to hold the physical, I only get back what they charged me and not the current price? I've had an order in since the 7th.

>> No.18588366
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18588366

bump

>> No.18588535

>>18587372
I have had an order since march 25th

>> No.18588578

>>18582862
2100 by next month

>> No.18588599

>>18586490
You can always buy crocs and koalas. Batchads are a one time thing.

>> No.18588600

>>18587236
You any any other silver bagholders pay me $24 per ounce I will take delivery of your silver

>> No.18588683
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18588683

Leaf fag here who got pic related recently.

Looking to get in more. Go to about 50% of my savings in PMs and ride this fucker through. Maybe transfer the wealth to a home for my young family when PMs at max and the housing market is crashed out. The worst-case scenario is to hold on and has some value after a financial reset.

Should I say fuck it and buy-in now or wait for PMs to go on sale? Do you anons see a short term drop I can buy into or are things ready to rocket up?

>> No.18588874

>>18588683
Make sure you have mining stocks.

>> No.18588901
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18588901

>>18587236
I hope you didn't pay extra for uncirculated most 1964 junk silver is uncirculated and carries no premium

>> No.18588921

>>18585963
crypto is worth nothing in a collapse, most people can't even use it.

>> No.18589141

I've got like 45 ounces of physical silver but I can't really make much money off of that now, it is a safety investment after all
What do I do regarding trading online tho? Is it a time to buy in or are we still going down? I don't have too much money so trading gold is way too expensive

>> No.18589164

>>18588901
I think I got them at a pretty good price desu, compared to what ive seen others go for on ebay uk. i paid only a very slight premium for the uncirculated ones, but theyre all in good condition for the price

>> No.18589193

>>18583720
180oz of silver

>> No.18589203

>>18582862

will silver ever reach 50 or even 100 in 20 years?

>> No.18589216

>>18585889
If you bought physical then you should know that silver is going for 19-25/oz

>> No.18589272

How many bats should I buy? I own 1 already. I can buy a tube of 10 or just get more ASE's

>> No.18589351

>>18589203
I could easily see silver going to $50 in the near future with all this market insecurity happening right now

>> No.18589550

somebody post the housewife bj pasta please

>> No.18589563

>>18589203
silver will moon when JP Morgan wants it to moon. They have a hand in both the Fed and the LBMA

>> No.18589619
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18589619

>>18589563

>> No.18589658

>>18589619
that's what I mean. A lot of people aren't aware they manipulate spot prices

>> No.18589665

>>18589563
>>18589619
So silver is being artificially pushed down so big players can get into a good position.

We can benefit from it. Fuck Im leaning towards putting a few K into silver rounds now.

>> No.18589676

>>18589141
Time to buy

>> No.18589706
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18589706

>>18589665
something's brewing for sure

>> No.18589721

>>18589676
Thanks anon, this does seem like the lower limit. Just don't want my trades to be automatically closed losing my cash if stuff goes down much more

>> No.18589726

>>18589141
>Is it a time to buy in or are we still going down?
my main question too. Im not looking to snipe in at the absolute bottom, just catch this ride on one of the sides.

>> No.18589975

Fucking fuck
I can buy pre 1870 firearms
There's some nice and afforable revolvers for sale
However, ammunition is still banned.
Guess ill have to assault coof during the boogaloo
I fucking hate being a yuroshit.
Never give up your freedoms ameribros

>> No.18590437

>>18589665
>>18589563
>>18589203
In 2011, gold went to $1800 and silver went to $50
In 2011 JPM was massively short silver and
now they own 1 BILLION ozs physical
JPM never loses...place your bets

>> No.18590473
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18590473

>>18588683
First things first, never, ever go all in. Even if the spaceship to the moon is waiting and you've got a reserved seat; alway diversify where possible to a reasonable extent and make sure if doesn't meaningfully impact your life

That said, if your savings (as in the money you legit do not intend to touch) are completely separate from what you're working with; and with a solidly split stack (assuming that's your 50%), I'd put ~25% more into it right now and take advantage of the situation and keep the other 25% banked (you never know if your car's gonna crash, pm's won't help you there)
Plat is dipped right now and Silver is historically always at a slight lag behind Gold's spikes - so those two are probably the best right now. Gold is on the up, so it's safe to say that ship hasn't exactly sailed, but it's certainly sailing. Palladium was still correcting pre-coronapocalypse, so I'd avoid that
On the other hand, if you've got ~1k spare, now would be roughly the time for serious investors to start looking at crypto, given fiat's impending decline/ possible collapse as well as bonds being suboptimal investments for at least 5 years. Diversifying a small amount into crypto with a solid PM stack while making mindful non-meme decisions seems to be the more sensible option over the prev conventional diversification into bonds and indexes

tl;dr If that the pic you've got of ~$2500 is the 50% of your savings, at 60/40 Gold/Silver split, I'd say put some more into Gold or Platinum to get that to a more stable 70/30, 80/20 or 65/25/15 without going into any more Silver (unless you want a Coronacoin, then make a bit of space for 2). From there, either maintain that ratio, or if you've got a 1k free and no previous investments in crypto, go 20/20/20/20 into BTC/ETH/BCH/LTC with the extra 20 loosened up for moving around the Crypto market (be it back into the previous 4 to ride any given wave, or memecoins of choice which will surely x1000 because a pajeet said so).

>> No.18591046

>>18582862
I was holding off on buying gold but with what just happened to oil I bought my first ounce just now. I have 20 silver ounces too. Not sure what’s going to happen in the near future but I’m getting very concerned. Everything is going insane.

>> No.18591481

>>18583217
Does investing in oil mean they pay you? Since it's negative.

>> No.18592008

>>18585486
yeah, i keep seeing 20 in a lot. Good job lad

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18592026

>>18584436
>posting my stack
Ill let you keep the (You)s.... this time
if youre gonna LARP you better keep the file name fool

>>18584550
Not enough, around 1200 toz

>>18585548
had a buffalo and Pt eagle but traded them to relatives for a vehicle

>> No.18592249

>>18592026
>Sack of silver coins
OK Mr. Moneybags

>> No.18592946
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18592946

I have $1600 to spend right now this instant NOW

Tell me what to buy. I already spent 5k but I leave the rest up to you guys. I already have a batboi.

>silver dildo

If its near spot then I will

>> No.18593026

>>18583720
21 oz of gold and 550 silver, feel like a stacklet

>> No.18593071

>>18587372
>>18588535
the fuck? i had a order with them and it filled it in a week. have you guys checked to see if those coins are back in stock, or emailed the company to see wtf is going on?

>> No.18593093

>>18592249
if only i had scrooge mcduck status

>>18593071
hot damn. GSM hasnt shipped my order yet and i placed it the 24th for 2x 10oz

>> No.18593110

>>18589726
anon i always heard, in a month demand will have normalized and premiums will return. well its been weeks, and premiums are keeping ASE's at $22+
but i think hold until you can get some ASE's for $20 (american dollars that is)

>> No.18593152

>>18593110
When will that happen? I dream of that day...

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>>18592946
Listen to the pro, get your hands on btc, fleta and xmr.

screen cap

>> No.18593173

>>18593093
well i ordered 40 2020 ase's on the 5th for a ridiculous premium (23.62) and they arrived on my door on the 13th.
but i was excited when they started talking about trump bux, and was like fuck it.

>> No.18593189

What's the secret to not buying platinum on the intraday high? I do it every fucking time. Maybe if I burn a 20 dollar bill before my next purchase, it won't happen again.

>> No.18593212

>>18593165
Why those three over the 100000000 other crypto?

>> No.18593223

>>18593189
i need to just pull the trigger on it. Pinehurst Coins had them for 935 this weekend if you paid visa for a single oz, now its up almost 50 while spot dropped. liberty coin on ebay has them for 944

>> No.18593228

Don't care. Precious metals are a scam.

>> No.18593237
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18593237

>>18592946
In order
>Gold bar
>Silver bar
>Gold coinage
>Coronacoin
>Plat/Pall bar (Plat over Pall right now)
>Silver coinage
In that order, no bonds/certs/mining stonks, diversifying so that you roughly have around 2/3rds Gold. Issue is that supply is shortened, so you'll be lucky to get what you want without preminums raping you (if they even have stock).
Most likely, times considered, gold coinage is your best bet. You won't get a big collection / stack to show off, but to refer to >>18588683 's image, that oz of gold is worth about 20% more than all the silver on display combined.

tl;dr gold coinage, whatever has the least premiums

>> No.18593296

>>18593237
I thought silver had all the growth potential over gold? I do want gold. I have been meaning to get some but I just ended up buying more silver instead. Ill hunt down some gold bars otherwise ill grab a 2020 AGE coin

>> No.18593386

>>18592946
for 1600 you could probably build a clone of that pewpew or rent that waifu for the day

>>18593296
>I thought silver had all the growth potential over gold?
long term absolutely.
>the above ground amounts of gold and silver are almost equal
>silver is used industrially in amounts not recyclable yet, so decreasing stocks above ground
>First majestic silver, one of the few primary silver miners says their ratio is closer to 1:8 gold to silver

>> No.18593421

>>18593386
Why did you prioritize gold over silver then in your post, I should be stacking more silver coins. 200oz ASE doesnt seem like enough to me, I can grab like 80 more or just buy bars but no one has them except scottsdale and a few anons are complaining their month old orders are not shipping yet, other dealers are out

>> No.18593454

>>18593421
eh? thats the other guy >>18593237 but honestly i wish id of gone way heavier gold. less volatile but fuck it, let it ride

>> No.18593470

>>18593165
BTC and FLETA for sure. Not sure about XMR.
What about LINK??

>> No.18593493
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18593493

>>18593296
Silver isn't the growing potential, it's the volitility (which makes silver exponentially easier to short compared to the slow-upwards-chugging gold in comparison). What you likely heard is of Silvers severe undervalue (which is correct, proprtional to Gold, Silver SHOULD be ~1/4 given total supply, which puts it's ''ideal'' price at $400, not $15 - more considering there's actually more physically tradeable Gold than Silver worldwide since Silver is used in untradable objects more, such as mirrors etc. It's basically the most undervalued 'anything' on the planet)
Now, sure, if people were to 'wake up' one day and realise the value of Silver, it'd surely go through the roof! Right? Wrong.
Silver is in a completely unique position among commodities, in that around 2 people (of all 7-8 billion of us) own almost every single physical bit of Silver worldwide - it's possibly the only material on Earth which has been completely monopolised (oligarchised if you want to be accurate, but you get the point). This in turn allows the people who own ( see >>18589619 ) it to pretty much 'set' the price they want - but there's a catch - most of the Silver they sell is in the form of certifications, bonds, shares, stocks etc - to the point that there is almost x2 the amount of Silver promised to people on paper than there physically is worldwide. So yeah, if Silver EVER corrects, it will nigh guaranteed rise 10fold (only if you have physcial - certs will be defaulted, what you gonna do, complain?), possibly 100fold in a short term spike before correcting at 10fold - but it's never going to correct, unless the people who own all of it say so (which they probably aren't, given they make enough money almost completely controlling the bumps/dips it's at now + buying even more, cheaply). So ALWAYS buy physical, certified/stock is a glorified IOU.

tl;dr Gold almost always grows (outside of crash corrections) and isn't volitile, a sensible portfolio for savings is ~60%+ Gold.

>> No.18593532

>>18593454
Yeah wrong buy my bad

>> No.18593551

>>18593493
Which 2 people own most of the worlds silver? I thought banks like JPM and others owned most PM's. I know JPM got caught allegedly screwing with prices.

>> No.18593716

>>18590473
Nobody is going to give a fuck about platinum and palladium. They are not monetary metals

>> No.18593723

>>18591046
Yeah we are fucked bro. Go to SRSrocco report which has the best analysis and all the professional sounding people in the comments and they are like holy fuck we are fucked

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>>18593723
>Go to SRSrocco report

>> No.18594706

Hello all /pol/ here.
If I wanted to buy £40's worth of silver, where would I look to buy?
>t. first timer europoor NEET

>> No.18594908

Silver almost in $14 territory

>> No.18595088

>>18594706
you literally have a collection of links on the OP dude...

>> No.18595186

>>18594706
eBay for that kinda Money, cheaper t he better.

>> No.18595207

>>18595088
literally any other than this I would I have thought to check the OP.

>>18595186
alright cool

>> No.18595210

>>18594908
Every country has sites to compare prices. Buy coins.

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This is it guys hold onto your fucking hats. This week could be the telling week. Look at the commodities markets today. PM’s dumping more as I predicted. Keep buying as at falls because this is the last chance you have to get physical. Once this bottoms out(gold around 1400, silver is irrelevant given the actual physical price). The move upwards will be like nothing to have seen. This could be the week where the house of cards falls and people lose a massive amount of confidence. Keep buying gold and silver because in 1-2 years it will be irrelevant at what price you bought either.

>> No.18595312

>>18595243
>/pmg/ right now
https://youtu.be/2ui85HwTX1s

>> No.18595782

Tube of batbois or more ASE's?

>> No.18595818

>>18595243
Will gold really hit 1400? I dont see how or why but would be nice, I could grab a couple ounces finally.

>> No.18595891

Look goys I kind of want to buy me some physical. But the cheapest I can find is about +4% over spot and the ones that I would like to have are like +12% over spot. I just don't know.

So what about solid physical ETFs like the one from ZKB or UBS? I mean really what is the worst that can happen? As far as I know they have to proof that they really own the gold, so I highly doubt that they are cheating. So let's say end of april when the futures expire it turns out that there isn't enough physical. Will they just close the ETF to new applicants, but the gold is still save. Or what could happen in a reasonable worst case?

>> No.18595905

What's /pmg/'s opinion on bullionvault.com? Are they reliable? They claim that they will transfer you the physical shiny rocks if you're extra paranoid.

>> No.18596221

>>18583720
>1350 oz silver
>8.5 oz gold
>11k LINK

>> No.18596321

>>18596221
oh god tell me you got given the link as a joke

>> No.18596333

>>18595891
Remember you can always afford to be a month early but you will never recover from being a date late.

>> No.18596551

>>18596333
well that is all fine but losing 4% when buying and probably loosing again when selling is a hard pillow to swallow. How do you guys cope with that? Do you basically all believe that gold will go to 10k in the near future and fiat to basically zero? While certainly very well possible, it's pretty hard bet to take.

>> No.18596597

Uh, would it be wise of me to buy this?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-TOWER-OF-LONDON-1977-HALLMARKED-1oz-SILVER-PROOF-INGOT/193368007971?hash=item2d05a1a523%3Ag%3AaIsAAOSwMu5eXtVn&LH_BIN=1

>> No.18596646

>>18590437
>>18590473
>>18593493
Thanks based-as-fuck skull anon.
Im in 4kish with my original pic related. I have about 26k-ish left. The plan would be to go in 50% of my savings now. Keeping 15k in cash and the rest split between gold and silver (with focus on silver as the G/S ratio is high as fuck meaning silver is underappreciated).

Never really thought about Platinum besides it has been dipping bearish (same with silver). I can see myself going 1-2oz gold, 2-4oz Platimum, 100-200oz silver and riding git out. Should I revise to more gold and Platimum OZs? Less coinage but more 'value'? Note my main focus is not having my spending power not get fucked over when the world crashes out. Also looking to buy a home when the housing bubble pops and use PMs to buy out the mortgage when they peak.

Crypto is not my thing. I was literally aware of it when it first started but did not take an interest (fuck I was dumb). I see it as a weak super-fiat currency that has a major flaw of needing the internet to use. If shit got very real that value would be inaccessible.

>>18595312
nice

>> No.18596703

Is it worth taking the immediate 20% loss on VAT if you're in the UK?

>> No.18597115
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>>18596597
>almost triple spot value
How rare is it, and how much are other people buying for. Otherwise, if you just want the metal, European Mint or any other place is VAT free and close-ish to spot, though I can't attest for any US/AUS sites

>>18596646
I'd always advise to maintain a Gold on the slight high end of the ratio (I'm personally 75/15/10 G/S/Cry), but it's totally up to you. As long as you diversify to a decent extent so you're always on at least one bump for when you want to liquidate, you should be fine. With buying property, I'd just say to remind you that the market doesn't care *when* you want to invest. The reason we diversify is that, if you want to buy a house however your main holds are currently in dip, you're either forced to sell in a dip (suboptimal) or effectively have that money be rendered null until it invariably picks up (so you're left with whatever isn't in a dip for the house). It's why Gold is usually pointed to as the best investment (since it never really dips, again, outside of correcting itself after the markets begin to recover post-crash - which is when anybody with Gold should be shorted anyways to simply acquire more gold with the money gain by buying the same amount you profited once it's back in a trough and growing, chugging again).
Platinum is the second rate Silver in economic terms, but the fact it's in a sizable dip coming into a crash means it's something I'd be interested in, but the fact it's Silver's little brother (VAT included) means that at best you can equal it in a ratio

If you want a summary, Gold is the safest asset you can get and will maintain spending power outside of the (very obvious) time after you should have (very obviously) sold it. Silver lags behind Gold, thus is at a peak while Gold is correcting (meaning you're not offpeak). Platinum is another option for if you want to diversify from Silver as your backup for non-Gold, plus it's major dip means it's growth margin is abnormally high

[1/2]

>> No.18597138

[2/2]
I can appreciate the notion on crypto, I've been wary of it since inception, and only really begun to pay attention to it now there's at least some market data to draw from trends-wise. If it were any other time I'd still say bonds and indexes, but they're in the shitter right now, so I've given Crypto a little bit of faith. Won't be a real 'thing' to normalfaggots for another decade minimum, mark my words, but the earlier you get in, the better, especially when we're discussing long-term investments like Gold. As for 'the internet going down', the reality of SHTF scenarios are exceedingly rare and not something you ought to worry too much about. Think of PM's as an investment first, which coincedentally would do well if the world would end (and not the other way around otherwise, you're best off getting a lot of weapons and a lot of tins of baked beans.)
Shorting or not evenly diversifying Crypto is still suidical though.

>>18596703
Eurpoean Mint my nigga, you only have to pay ~£10 VAT on the £50 shipping, the Silver is VAT free. Absolute steal.

>> No.18597285

>>18596551
>when selling
there's your mistake buddy. It's not an investment, it's a storage of wealth.

>> No.18597295

>>18582862
hyper deflation is occurring, people will start selling to cover calls/puts, SLV is fucked the most imo. I see it going to $10. The whole market is kill for the next 6 months, honestly going into gov bonds might be the smartest thing for a while.

>> No.18597443

>>18597115
>How rare is it, and how much are other people buying for. Otherwise, if you just want the metal, European Mint or any other place is VAT free and close-ish to spot, though I can't attest for any US/AUS sites
I was only looking at it because I'm cluless. So, the spot value, that's it's actual cash value (the ideal price), but not the realistic price due to VAT etc.

>> No.18597626

>I bought the top again
God damn it. Will gold keep tanking or should I buy now?

>> No.18597862

>>18593493
>>18589619


You guys convinced me to add 10 kg silver to my stack, that shit's unreal.

I had been wondering if the USA might try to return to a mixed PM currency backing to improve the natural mining output & inflation rate (ie bimetallism). Seem like one more clear signal that the financial elite are positioning for a change in the reserve currency.

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Sunshine bar finally came in bros I’m in love.

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She’s a beaut

>> No.18597915

>>18597626

It's not the gold, It's the paper financial system. Keep buying as long as you aren't overleveraged.

>> No.18598055

>>18597285
What is a storage of wealth for, when you are never going to use it?

>> No.18598246

To all the people buying silver. Currently there is more gold above ground than silver. Currently there is 8 times more gold in circulation than silver. The reason being, mining silver is currently unprofitable.
There are tons of silver mines discovered in Mexico but never mined because they would lose money.
If silver ever reaches an unnatural ratio to gold (usually 10z - 20oz =1 oz of gold), trade in most of your silver for gold.

>> No.18598315

Okay so this is going under the spot price by £3. I guess because of the finish. 1 troy ounce .999 purity. Is there anything stopping me from buying this to sell later?

>> No.18598351

>>18598055
what is "using wealth", to you?

>> No.18598361

>>18598315
forgot link
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monarch-Precious-Metals-1oz-Hand-Poured-999-Silver-Bar/264118102651?hash=item3d7eaa6a7b%3Ag%3A0eAAAOSwt%7E1cL3CT&LH_BIN=1
Or maybe, I could buy a ring and wear it until the price is right?

>> No.18598408

>>18598055
For transferring between assets. Leverage high gold value into cheap real estate. Then vice versa years later to then multiply your value for example.
The 'price' of PMs is illusionary. It is PMs ratio to other assets that matters and your ability to transfer between them to make gains and to achieve goals.

>> No.18598468

What's the point in buying gold when you don't even have food stocked up? Buying "real estate"? Lmao are you joking? I'm nearly 40 and I'm still renting and I don't see a way out of this poverty. What a joke. Gold is for rich people, I'm going all in on bullets.

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18598568

Just bought another 40oz.

Anons...I think shit is about to get real.

>> No.18598604

am I wasting my time looking for gold @ spot + 5% right now?

>> No.18598635

threadly reminder that buying mining stocks, if timed correctly, will help you make more fiat gains, which will help you buy more physical. ideally want exposure to both. but if you go all in on mining stocks and they tank due to market conditions you also lose out on potential physical you could have bought. decisions decisions.

any thoughts on HL (hecla mining)?

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Would you rather buy 1/10 ounce gold eagles at 210 each or 1 ounce american silver eagles at 21 each?

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>>18589563
>>18589658
>>18589665
>tfw you are now mirroring one of JPM's biggest and smartest positions
>if they push price lower you benefit because you can buy more
>if they allow price to ramp higher you also benefit from the good feels
>if they make it crab at the very least you have cool shiny rocks to look at but deep down you feel sad about opportunity cost

>> No.18598787

>>18598408
That is all fine, but if it comes at a premium of doing that around 10% for a round trip, it still seems like a bad investment. So you are basically loosing 10% for the potential security that your currency fails. If think most people buy gold because they think that it will increase against other assets not stay the same. Which is only a real possibility if people start hoarding and valuating gold more. Which is clearly not about preservation of wealth.

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>>18597443
Spot is it's price in Troy Ounces (which, for all intents and purposes is an Ounce for faggots).
Premiums are how much extra the person you're buying from wants to make in profits (usually low, but a bit higher while it's currently in demand, and really high given the Corona thing going on).
VAT is the gubbermend shaving it's own share off because taxation is theft which useful idiots who don't ever pay it vote in. Uniquely, Gold is not charged VAT.
On coins/plates, there's some times another bit added on top if it's a collectable coin, or you have a full set of coins, but that's usually quite rare.

>>18597862
>10kg
nigga I advise that you do not do that if you're banking on the greater jews willingly giving up control of the silver market any time soon. Gold is always the more reliable one, the whole Silver thing is more a miscellany tier fun fact and less of a genuine economic anticipation.
Holding a sensible amount of Silver is fine, holding a bumper amount in anticipation of it correcting over investing in Gold is not. >>18598246 is correct, people aren't stupid, if Silver could have corrected, it would have,

>>18597891
>that detail
nice

>>18598315
>>18598361
Anon, current spot price in GBP is £12/o. It's still a somewhat reasonable price given the current Corona shitshow (yes, premiums are currently that high), but I'd also get it checked out at a local jeweller/bullion once you recieve it, just in case you need a refund (always do that with eBay).
First though, I'd personally recommend reading up a bit more, ok?

>>18598468
Depending on the situation, I guess bullets could be classes and 'precious metal' in slang terms (though, I'll say, SHTF is nice to dream of, but sadly unlikely). Gold stores and builds wealth, bullets not so much (acquiring wealth in an alternative sense, in an unlikely scenario).

>> No.18598859

>>18589706
silver lags behind gold, they don't always rip in tandem. this is because gold has the better image, think olympics and first price medal. central banks hoard gold first. then when gold runs out or gets too expensive they and others buy silver.

gold is starting to run out. i was able to easily buy a 1/10 austrian last week and now it is back to sold out everywhere. i used to buy 5 gram bars easily for $200 and now they are pricing at over $300 on ebay. sold out on the big dealer sites. it's fucking happening.

silver is back in stock after being sold out for the past few weeks.

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>>18582862
Wouldn't land or real estate in general be a better way to perserve value than precious metals?

>> No.18598906

>>18590437
rent is approximately $1600-$2200 because dajooz know that's precisely the range where they can extract 1 oz equivalent of gold from the goyim every month. if random /biz/ anons have several oz. of gold, you can bet your sweet boipucci every millionaire has at least a solid 100 oz. gold stack.

>> No.18598973

>>18598797
Thanks for the lengthy and detailed response.
Yeah I think I'll continue reading but I'd like to buy something by the end of the day.
If the spot price is really that low, then idk where the hell to find it even close to that price.
I'll eventually move over to gold since it's actually rarer and doesn't have the gibbmedat to worry about. but for now, I'd like to throw a few shekels in as a learning experience.

>> No.18599253

>>18597295
>>18597295
>gov bonds might be the smartest thing for a while

I legitimately don't know if this is a troll post because a lot of normie daytraders actually think like this.

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>>18584436
Wow that's worth about 3 1 oz gold bullion coins. Way to go poorfag!!! Do you pour them on the floor and roll around on them and pretend that you're rich ;)

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>>18598679
Both are decent-ish, Gold if you want long term growth, Silver if you want to short the coming collapse.

>>18598862
It is, but PM's are generally cheaper and thus more accessable. An ounce of silver is ~$15, an ounce of gold is ~$1700, a house is $50,000-$150,000 depending on area. Plus, Gold/Silver isn't affected by what's on top of it, and doesn't take months to years to sell if you need liquid cash asap.
Different commodities for different needs and savings plans. Property is important, but until then, PM's more than fill the vaccuum.

>>18598973
In all honesty, it's a decent price for the time if it's legit. I'd say a 'good' price for Silver right now is ~£22/oz in coinage or £20/oz in bar/plate.

>>18599253
Probably just a Slowpoke, I'd give the same advice if bonds weren't depreciating currently because of the whole 'major economic collapse' thing going on. They're still a somewhat decent investment, just far from optimal, they're still above most cryptos.

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***RETARD ALERT***RETARD ALERT***

>Buying silver is for retards, there is an almost endless amount created by mining base metals, which is why there are no "silver mines" or Silver Miner ETF's. If you buy silver you are the greater fool in the Greater Fool Theory of investment. Enjoy and grow rich stacking physical gold and ignore retarded silver fags.

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WTF...

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>>18599723
Time to buy another kilo

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Poor silveranon back again. I bought pic related for £26. A bit scratched up, though it was the cheapest. The fact that it's american is pretty cool. Seller said he'll be back in a week (according to the ebay banner). Now I'll sit back and watch the profits roll in...

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>>18599530

>> No.18600636
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Am I gonna make it

>> No.18600738
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>>18600636
>bat coin

Based and going to make it pilled.

>> No.18600777

>>18599815
Damn that is pretty cool, why can't we have anything nice like this in uk

>> No.18600978

>>18597891
do you play guitar?

>> No.18600988

So when everything essentially opens back up (at least in the US) on May 1 does demand and price go down for a short time?

>> No.18601124

>>18600777
nice trips.
We have lots of nice coins and small bars. But yeah that big fuck off statue is pretty neat on there.

>> No.18601220

>>18597115
>As long as you diversify to a decent extent so you're always on at least one bump for when you want to liquidate, you should be fine. With buying property, I'd just say to remind you that the market doesn't care *when* you want to invest.
Im keeping that in mind. The plan was to buy a home when the housing market gets its shit wrecked. We are already seeing homes that would be far out of our league come into our budget. The game plan would be to get into a standard mortgage and pay it off like a simp (original plan anyway) with fiat then dump gold and silver in as they respectively peak. Alternatively, if hyperinflation kicks in, pay it off with a trillion-dollar bill or whatever as mortgage rates cannot follow hyperinflation beat for beat.
Again, this assumes things do not go totally wack if so I have PMs to hold value and ride out the storm.

>>18597138
I just can't get my head around crypto being worth it. I see the gains yes, but I am just not comfortable in it as a long term investment. I assume if I got in when it was 0.0001$ a coin I would be singing a different tune.
Also even though I am tech literate I have no fucking idea how to set up a secure wallet and that scares and shames me.

>>18599442
>Silver right now is ~£22/oz in coinage
SHIT, my bank was selling silver 1oz coins for 16£ when I picked them up. I'll be haunting them for my next buy (but get gold maybe Platinum as well, I'm taking in some fo your advice anon)

>>18600988
Hoping for down so we can get our last buy-in on sale

>> No.18601464

>>18596221
>he didn't dump his link stack the last time it was over $5 and double down on gold

>> No.18601485
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18601485

Just pulled the trigger on another 200oz, will bring my total up to
>8 oz gold
>750 oz silver
>1 oz platinum
>$10k gold mining stocks

Keep stacking bros

>> No.18601511

>>18597891
Yes. I bought silver towne bars last month when it crashed because it was all that was left. Next buy I'm going with Sunshine they just look so much nicer, I snagged a couple sunshine 1 oz rounds this month

>> No.18601535

>>18601485
I love those old engelhard bars

>> No.18601803

>>18601485
Which mining stocks? I have some but mainly in other areas but want more in mining.

>> No.18601881

>>18598635
They were good to me this summer. Fuck Capital Gains Tax, robinhood and jannies though. You gotta go big or stay on the porch to make it worth it i feel

>>18599441
You couldn’t have chosen a gayer reaction pict even if you lurked /b/.

>> No.18601930

>>18601803
Some Barrick, some Metalla, some Franco-Nevada, and some GDX/GDXJ

>> No.18602046

It a small amount of gold and silver just larping.

I have 5oz gold and 250oz silver. For this to be worth it, I want to see 10x at least. Is this even possible?

>> No.18602052

>>18585412

Platinum?

>> No.18602111

>>18602046
250 oz of silver is a small amount?

>> No.18602198

>>18587236

You paid $116 for about 3.5 ounces of silver, did you do any fucking research before pulling the trigger?!

>> No.18602235

>>18602198
That's what they sell for retard

>> No.18602264

>>18602046
Gold isn't going to 10x unless the US monetary system collapses, in which case valuing anything in dollars is pointless. The point of gold is that you'll have some value tucked away in the event your USD savings are inflated into oblivion. It doesn't necessarily mean 5oz of gold will make you rich, though demand would obviously increase well past whatever USD value you initially paid for it

>> No.18602296

>>18601930
Now seems like a bad time to buy mining stocks though, do you think they'll dip soon

>> No.18602316

>>18602111
yes.

>> No.18602381
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>>18602046
Precious metals aren't like your shitcoins, they don't moon. You don't buy them to get rich, you buy them to stay rich. It's a way to escape government mandated inflation and retain your wealth and purchasing power permanently. The big brain way to play it is to just swap your gold for silver every decade or so as the ratio swings up and down. Compound your ounces over the years without dealing with fiat.

1000 years ago 1 oz of gold would buy you a very nice suit. 100 years ago 1 oz of gold would buy you a very nice suit. Today 1 oz of gold will buy you a very nice suit

>> No.18602398

>>18602296
Buy things when they are cheap, sell things when they are expensive. Do not try to time tops/bottoms

>> No.18602438

>>18602111
That is only about 6k AUD worth...

>> No.18602723
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18602723

How many of these bois are currently blessing your stacks?

>> No.18602742

>>18602723
Only one.

>> No.18602749

>>18602723
20

>> No.18602776

>>18585477
>dubs
>”gold” hidden signal

Super bullish?

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Do it for him, bros.

>> No.18603483

>>18602381

Retard logic

Guys don't stay rich by letting their money sit at nil levels of growth

kek

>> No.18603644

>>18589975
Fight to get your freedoms back brother!

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18603742

>>18603483
they do when it's real money

kek

>> No.18604440

>>18603742
look at all those tungsten core gold bars!

>> No.18604569

>>18602723
just one. I like benjamin franklin half dollars more

>> No.18604702

>>18602723
None, I've started hunting though. 50c pieces and mercury dimes are at the top of my list

>> No.18604717

>>18604440
Seething

>> No.18604918

>>18604717
What if they really were though. No one wants to drill into their nice gold bars to check.

>> No.18604945

>>18604702
Why those over regular eagles

>> No.18604950

>>18604569
What's a good price for a roll of Franklin half dollars?

>> No.18605105

>>18604950
I'd say less than $140

>> No.18605133

>>18604945
>lower premiums
>still US currency
>fractional
>cool and old
I've got mainly one oz silver rounds, and two 2020 ASE. I figure junk silver is a good option for barter with and they still have a market for collectors and stackers.

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18605134

thinking more gold
little more Bitcorn
more tools and means of production
more scotch
thinking about those beanz
thinking about how JP morgan will make me rich (sooner the better please)

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>>18603483
>nil levels of growth
k

>> No.18605185

>>18605133
I wish I could find some nice junk prices. Some places in stock have higher prices compared to eagles. By a big margin too

>> No.18605210

>>18605157
what about silver

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>>18595818
>wait until gold hits $1400 to buy
"Nice, time to back up the truck and buy. EPIC WIN!"
>everything was already sold out @ $1500
>Little scraps left have massive premiums that are more expensive than buying today

big wow

>> No.18605287

>>18605185
Yeah, everything is fucked atm. I got some war nickels at 1.99 above spot a couple of weeks ago but they immediately sold out. I've been hunting eBay for auctions, hoping to snipe some if they don't get out of hand but we'll see. Basically anything is good right now if it's at a decent price, imo

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>>18605210

>> No.18605348

>>18598408
So the banks will be interested with dealing with PM stackers on RE or is it going to be a pain in the ass to get a good deal?

>> No.18605365

>>18605306
based

>> No.18606182

>>18604918
it doesnt take two seconds to drill a bar like that

>> No.18606401

>>18606182
And make it look ugly and have a bunch of gold shavings everywhere . Most people would not dare do it. Which is funny because the Canadian government got caught sending out fake gold bars when someone drilled into theirs.

>> No.18607344

>>18600988
I'd say (if it doesn't spike already), you'll have about 1-2 days grace before the rocket takes off

>>18601220
>SHIT, my bank was selling silver 1oz coins for 16£ when I picked them up.
Don't stress too much about it, £16 is pretty normal, it's just that given the times, premiums have rocketed in the last few weeks due to market demand for non-loaf currency. In fact, if you were intending on going for something like a 10kg loaf, the price is still almost untouched compared to before (because nobody is really after those right now)
And yeah, don't worry over crypto, it's better to know what you're doing. Potential for making money is one thing, potential for throwing money into the void over mistakes is another. It's one of the reasons why PM's are good for beginners, because after even minimal research, it's pretty hard to fuck up.

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>Get an email 6 hours ago from monument metals that batboi is back and stock.
>click through to their website to make a purchase
>Notify Me

Redpill me on the batboi phenomenon. People beyond /biz/ must be aware of the hype or are we really just buying out the whole stock?

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>>18607349
>Redpill me on the batboi phenomenon. People beyond /biz/ must be aware of the hype?
They are, the Batboi was the most featured among any news promotion of this new set and all the comments are about Batboi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIPC-aOT6ew

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18607638

>he doesn't own the batcat combo
NGMI

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What's /pmg/'s opinion on these? I've never seen a Mongolian gold coin and I was somewhat interested compared to other mints.

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>>18608018
Don't bother unless it's Cheaper than other's. Recognisability and liquidity is key. If you have plenty of pm's and just want it to enjoy then fuck it why not. It's still gold at the end of the day

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>>18607349
The actual amount of batbois being produced is so small that /biz/ could have more of an impact than it does on any shitcoin

>> No.18608153

I'm a poorfag and I just dropped a good portion of 400 dollars into silver.
Thing is I think I might've Oofed because after signing up to Apmex or Sd bullion I found that eBay had better prices after shipping for small orders and also almost all the cheap silver was on back order from the main bullion sites in OP
I got snagged 4 2011 silver koalas for 100 shipping included.

That was probably my best deal so if that was bad then yea I suck.

Also got a buffalo round for 22 that is more banged up than I'd like but I probably won't return it.


Kicking myself cause I remember a year ago these silver bars being17 bucks on Amazon .

Anyway if the koalas sell out as fast as I see them go one eBay I should be fine if I hold for 2-5 years then sell I think.

>> No.18608227

Also i can snag some old dirty Morgan silver dollars from a local for 18. Is that a good deal?

I think I should stop cause my wife's gonna kill me but she'll thank me later

>> No.18608245

>>18607349
Jm has em . I ordered one yesterday

>> No.18608321

>>18599815
I would sell You some relatively cheap silver if u still want some. cheaper than 26 an ounce ffs

>> No.18608340

>>18589706
Lmao nice chart manipulation. Choose your x axis again.

Every single OECD country has been dumping their CB gold for the past 20 years. There were some news lately about US buying some but that's negligence so far

>> No.18608384

>>18607344
>Don't stress too much about it, £16 is pretty normal,
You got me wrong, that was a shit of happiness. Glad I'm not getting fucked too hard buying in.

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>> No.18608685

>>18608135
Those look gold. How did you get gold?

>> No.18608700

>>18584550
>needlessly aggressive
you have to go back, pussy

>> No.18608741

>>18585889
There will be a 5-10x spike within the year to 100 or so. There always is.

>> No.18608848

>>18598468
>we're all in the same situation
not everyone is a broke idiot

>> No.18609209

>>18608135
I was looking for the mintage but I couldn't find it anywhere. How many were produced?

>> No.18609277

>>18608605

Those are some nice looking bars anon. Id love to collect those JM bars.

>> No.18609310

>>18582862

>1000 oz silver (including 5 batbois)
>10 oz gold

to what degree will I make it?

>> No.18609350

>>18609310
pic or didn't happen

>> No.18609352
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based postman

>> No.18609512

>>18609209
55.5k bullion
20K uncirculated

>> No.18609879

>>18609512
Is this considered a lot or little?

>> No.18609916

>>18582862
Just got my silver dividends. Planning to reinvest them into more silver. On top of the 8% annual appreciation of asset value, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't invest more in silver trinkets! I'm going to be rich one day when I sell my silver.

>> No.18609935

Should I get platinum? I only buy gold/silver. Palladium and Rhodium look nice too but way to pricey so how is Platinum?

>> No.18609990

>>18609916
if you are holding paper silver... you are just holding paper...

>>18609935
Same question. If they rise with G and S more or less in proportion it would be a good way to diversify.

>> No.18610120

I was thinking of buying some silver.
What do I need to look out for and how much should I buy?

>> No.18610164

>>18598859
how much of that is lack of actual metal and how much is from mints being shut down?
I mean, I guess it doesn't make all too much of a difference, but it isn't completely unimportant.

>> No.18610186

>>18610120
Get 2020 ASE's from Monumentmetals or get bars from Scottsdale to get the most ounce for your dollar. Then buy at least 1 batboi minimum from JM Bullion.

Idk your budget.

>> No.18610222

>>18610186
I'm a poor NEET with about 200 euros in spendable money.
Thing is that I'm not so sure my EU funbucks will keep their value if things keep going to shit.

>> No.18610263

>>18610222
Checked

I dont know where to buy anything in Europe or what good prices are there but, this is my opinion, since you dont have much you need to get the most ounce for your money so buy bars. The bigger the bar the less premium and less per ounce you pay. But, when it comes time to sell, bars do not sell for as much as coins over the selling price. Its not a big difference but its something to consider.

I would get bars. Maybe other anons can chime in. I am relatively new but have spent around 5k.

>> No.18610277

>>18592946
$100 fv bag of standing liberty quarters

>> No.18610279

>>18582862
I have $25k in physical and about $4k in mining and royalty stocks, I am pretty happy overall with my position in PMs.
What are you guys hedging with in terms of other sectors/assets?

>> No.18610306

>>18610263
It's mostly so I can keep some sort of money in case things go south.

>> No.18610307

>>18610277
Very specific, why that?

>> No.18610366

>>18610277
just personal taste
but having a $100 bag of silver quarters is pretty comfy

>> No.18610381

>>18610306
I dont know how much cash you are keeping on hand but if you think things may go south, considering selling non essential items to buy more silver with it because if things do go south those materialistic possessions will be largely useless but if things do not take a turn for the worst then you can simply buy it back when the value of silver goes up like post 2008 when it hit 50 bucks an ounce from a low of 8 and that was when there was no global pandemic, crashing and halted economies, closed mints and mines etc.

Will take up to a few years though. Again other anons should chime in.

>> No.18610386

>>18610307
god I hate when I do that
meant to reply to 107 not 277
>>18610277

>> No.18610400 [DELETED] 

>>18610386
>>18610366
grrr why am I retardit

>> No.18610430

>>18610381
is 185 euros for 250g much?

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>>18608018
>almost x2 above CAD spot
I'd pass on that dude, even if it was highly collectible, a 2020 coin at that price is a hard sell, especially given it being a relatively small mint. Unless there's a huge market for golden mongolian eagles I'm not aware of, it seems a bit too steep.

>>18608153
>hold for 2-5 years
Nah dude, short the crash once Silver peaks, then buy up some more Silver for a hold (ideally Gold, but I can understand stuff like diversification, being new to the market or not having much to spend). The Koalas were a decent call though, they're one of the most cost efficient value-for-spot coins out there, nice one.
As for >>18608227 I'd pass, Morgans aren't pure Silver but a 90/10 Silver/Copper split. If you can find a good price for them right now (given the crash, there might be some useful idiots on eBay) then get them, but my usual advice on scrap/mixed silver is to know what you're doing, have a connection for a sell and buy in fucking major bulk.

>>18609512
>>18609879
To put that into context, the rarest Silver Britannia you can get is the 2014 Mule Britannia (which as a result of a misprint, only resulted in a mint of 17k total with a Lunar New Year horse in the place of the Queen's face). They sell for a shitton above spot (about £500 or $650 for 1oz, and they're only 6 years old). Coronacoins might be slightly more common (in relative terms at least, given most prints are to the tune of 200k-1m at a time on repeat print) but I'd say if they maintain the current popularity they have now (provided they don't get forgotten, another print is made etc), a bit under a Mule is where I'd predict the Coronacoins to rise to once the print is over for the year and scarcity begins to manifest (on the lower side of 'close' to be safe predicton). Who knows, it might moon and become the MUST for any collector, but at the same time I try to be sensible.

>>18610120
> >>18598797

>>18610164
Public interest + being next best thing once Gold crashes

>> No.18610531

>>18601881
>You couldn’t have chosen a gayer reaction pict even if you lurked /b/.
>implying that wasn't his intention
Ah, happy days

>> No.18610543

>>18610512
I looked into gold but it's way too expensive.
It isn't even to make money but to have some kind of valuable backup in case Euro loses value.

>> No.18610555

>>18586162
most of it is the premium alone obviously, of course the metal content value is not near that

>> No.18610567

>>18610543
It was just a pointer for what to look out for when you asked. At 200 EU, I'd say (depending on postage) get some Koalas from the European Mint website

>> No.18610601

>>18610543
If you're looking for cheap metals, historically silver, platinum, copper, and palladium are all pretty cheap rn.

>> No.18610607

>>18610567
Thanks I'll check the European Mint site.

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fuck bros I'm scared as fuck and want to secure a few savings before it's too late because I sincerely believe we're in for some turbulent times
I've been reading all day but I'm completely clueless to this shit
I have a few thousands € I can invest, what should I buy? where should I buy it in Europe?
been reading silver is a decent safe bet rn?

>> No.18610704

>>18610658
tl;dr gold for the hold, silver for the crash short, others for the diversification.

>> No.18610745

>>18610704
yeah I figured as much
considering silver right now, how easy is it to sell back, how much will I lose? how to sell it?
sorry for these stupid questions

>> No.18610749

>>18606401
:\

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/fake-gold-wafer-rbc-canadian-mint-1.4368801

>> No.18610936

>>18607349
>>18607563
I usually hate the collectible stuff but the batboi is really cute and would unironically make a funny keepsake from this time period.

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>>18610279
Shit ton of store of value cryptos, mainly Bitcoin and Decred.

Also land, food production, stored food, and funs/ammo

>> No.18611214

>>18610430
Depends on what you are buying but converted to if this were the USA where I am thats $22.72 an ounce. For an ASE its decent all things considered, for a bar (closest being 10 ounces) its not the best. Again depends on what the norm for the EU is.

If its all you have then go for it. Instead of saving Euros in the form of cash that will lose value store it in something more secure and if you ever need to use it in cash just sell it and get back w/e the value is after the inflation hits.

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>>18610745
Depends of how you sell it. Sometimes eBay is a good choice because there are retards there that will buy way above spot (eBay is also the place where you sell high-collectability coins for the collectors price over the spot price), but sites like Bullionbypost will buy very close to spot for bar and coin, as in to the penny/dollar (provided you sort all the sideshit out like postage and it's all legit). Find the best buyer in your area which buys at spot and has minimal postage costs.
Most of your 'losses' though are going to be from initial buyers premiums (and naturally spot, if you buy on a peak). For now, it's not too much of a concern given that a spike is almost guaranteed so you'll make *a* profit provided you don't get completely raped by premiums, but for post-crash it's something to keep in mind.
As for the questions, don't worry, everybody's a newfag at some point. I might update the OP myself with for FAQ's, but that remains to be seen if people would use it.

>> No.18611280

>>18610749
>Last November, 35-year-old Leston Lawrence was found guilty of smuggling $190,000 worth of gold pucks, each the size of a small muffin, in his rectum over several months.

haha

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>>18610745
The current scenario right now for prices is completely fucked. Usually silver sells for $1-2 dollars over spot, but the paper silver ETF markets are getting mass liquidated while simultaneously people are rushing into the very small physical market, so prices above spot are $7-10 most places. If you're prone to panic selling at price fluctuations or don't shop around for who pays the best prices this will likely result in you getting completely slaughtered in terms of how much you could lose. Actually selling it though is going to be pretty easy at the moment (not that it's hard any other time), as at least in Burgerland you have coin shops, pawn shops, and cash-for-gold businesses that have to compete to offer the best prices for gold/silver (you actually have to call around though and compare their prices below/above spot).

Honestly though I think it's incredibly unlikely that you would ever lose money with silver unless you acted incredibly stupid. My personal prediction is that we're going into a global depression and possibly a currency collapse if shit really hits the fan, in which case the holders of physical silver/gold could become tremendously wealthy in a short span of time. I mean we've seen oil just hit -$40 a barrel and no one on the fucking planet would have believed you if you told them that would happen a year ago, and considering the instability and fragility of the current world economy I don't see why it would be some unreasonable possibility to see (for example) gold hitting $5000/ounce and silver $200/ounce.

Even if I'm completely wrong about the economic forecast though, silver prices is still objectively quite depressed due to the mass liquidation of the paper markets, and even factoring in the dumb prices above spot you have to pay, the prices are still reasonable relative to what silver has sold for over the last 10 years so it would still be a reasonable buy.

Also, only buy from trusted sellers (see OP).

>> No.18611416

Any thoughts on Utah Goldbacks? Would be neat to have one of each. Frame them or something.

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>>18610745
I'll add to this >>18611322 post with a more sensible reminder that Gold's timelong peak (regardless of inflation) is $1900 after a two-threefold increase while Silver's is $49 after a three-fourfold increase.
Not saying your estimates are 'completely' impossible given the magnitude of the economic collapse, but it's just a reminder of what the standing recordbreakers are as of now.

>>18611416
As usual, check it's content, then what spot value is then account for how collectable it is.

>> No.18611518

>>18611466
I did and its way above spot but I like more the novelty that Utah made their own Gold Note that is legal tender in Utah for commerce.

>> No.18611810

>>18582862
where do I buy a 1000 oz comex bar and how easy would it be to sell?

>> No.18611854

>>18610745
Buy at your country's national mint. If you're worried about premiums, buy in bulk.

There's nothing comfier. If you're in the UK and buy from the Royal Mint, Australia and buy from the Perth Mint etc you can get your loot in the mail within a day or two, or even visit their local branch in your own city. 100% confidence, 100% recognition. There's no real reason not to do this.

>> No.18611917

>>18611854
>or even visit their local branch in your own city.
> There's no real reason not to do this.
Anon....I...uhh- remeber the whole 'bioweapon' thing going on?

>> No.18611935

>>18611266
>>18611322
>>18611466
>>18611854
ty bros, I'll look into this. I don't consider myself a panic seller, but I literally have like 8k in cash in a box at home, and I'm really debating what should I do.

>> No.18611966

>>18611935
6k PM, 1-2k rainy day

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What coin is this? I cannot find it anywhere online.
Prolly fake but if theirs precious metals in it i want to know

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>>18611988
Back

>> No.18612122

>>18611935
Get a little BTC if you're sitting on that cash

>> No.18612206

Is 5 silver krugerrands for $120 a good deal?

>> No.18612236

>>18611988
>>18612011
Try peeling it and seeing if it has chocolate inside.

>> No.18612291

>>18612236
Lol it feels metal and is really sturdy

>> No.18612310

>>18612206
>silver krugerrands
are they 1 ozt?
MCM has them at 112.41 on ebay right now.

>> No.18612318

>>18611935
might want to keep a month or two's expenses in paper though

>> No.18612337

My take
stock market "melt up" through this summer into a deflationary bust ending the credit cycle and unwinding leverage, PMs will get hit too this is a longer game my friends. This bust will be like a great depression level of devaluation but will be very fast. In this period the fed will increase the balance sheet by insane amounts this will lead to hyperinflation later this decade. I'm totally confident in five figure gold before 2030.

>> No.18612361

>>18611988
the paint is probably gold
barely enough to worry about though

>> No.18612362

>>18611810
the bigger bullion bars are actually becoming a bit of a hassle to sell lately due to chinese scammers filling the centers with lead or steel. A lot of places are forcing customers to have them drill pressed / assayed now. Go with something smaller, like a few medium sized bars instead, either way those bigger bullion bars are getting hard to find without mark up.

>> No.18612426

>>18612337
Where do you see silver? Most people either have no gold or under 5oz of it while most have hundreds of oz to thousands of silver.

>> No.18612484

>>18610936
I ordered 5 just because I had leftover Coronabux I didn't need. I wanted to put it in silver anyway cause why not it's free money, so I had to get muh batbois for the occasion.

>> No.18612491

>>18611988
Plated clad HSN crap sold to normies for kikish markups. That coin is worth only 50¢.

>> No.18612586

Anyone know why plat eagles are sold out everywhere? they dropped in price to $885 on a few sites then magically sold out on like 5 different places.

>> No.18612629

1 oz of gold
1 roll of 10 batcoins + two 10oz bars
3 rolls 2020 silver eagles

I can only get one. Already own 165oz silver in silver eagles and some bars

>> No.18612632

>>18612206
no.
https://silvergoldbull.com/1-oz-2020-krugerrand-silver-coin

>> No.18612649

>>18612586
(((you know why)))

>> No.18612675

>>18612337
before 2030???? No chance. overnight gold revaluation within the year. system is dead. Debt needs to be purged.

>> No.18612681

>>18612649
well there's no fucking way that they all sold out simultaneously so my guess is that they purchased them at a high price expecting to net a sick premium. when prices tanked and they were auto-dropping prices based on spot they took them off the site.

>> No.18612702

>>18612632
>Due to unprecedented order volumes, please expect a shipping delay of 20+ business days

>> No.18612713

>>18612629
Batbois. Gambling on silver having more upside than gold, and batbois have about the same premium but higher meme potential than ASE's.

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>>18612649
"out of stock" on website
"IN STOCK - In Our Vaults & Ready to Ship."
unsure if this is just how their website works but Silver.com might just be being big time jews.

>> No.18612752

>>18612713
wouldnt eagles always be the safer bet over a batboi despite esoteric 4chan meme material? I have batbois dont get me wrong.

>>18612725
goy-kun buy 20 coins so you can save $5 on each coin :^)

>> No.18612827

>>18612752
batbois will be valued and desired. theyre the biggest coins the US mint ever made and the most symbolic in years

>> No.18612881

>>18611266
>>18611322
Thanks for your valuable info anons. God speed.

>> No.18612886

>>18612827
But mints and many mines are closed so the 2020 eagles might see low production, and its the last year for the current design

>> No.18613035

>>18597891
If you don't regularly take it out of the plastic to rub your dick all over it, then you don't really own it.

>> No.18613115

>>18599805
looks nice man

>> No.18613306

>>18612886
They both will be desired but batbois have a lower mintage then the 2020 eagles

>> No.18613351

>>18612586
They went on sale April 15th. The same day the mint shut down production of them at the west point mint.

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I think one thing a lot of people are missing out on with the in-thread Coronacoin craze is that it's going to take some time for them to increase in collectability and demand. In essence, it's going to take until early-mid 2021 for scarcity to manifest and price to begin to rise (since they've got an ongoing print until the end of the ear, relaeasing in batches) so you're gambling on how long the markets are going to be crashed for. Now sure, we've got the second wave to consider which should keep the markets nice and dead for a few years (great for PMs), but I can't just sit around while people are making them out to be the next coming of Silver Jesus.
They're not going to spike in value immediately. They're going to need time to settle and for nobody else to be selling them. In that way, I'd liken Coronacoins more to Gold than to Silver itself (given that they're long term on the scope of many years, slow but reliable growers).

If you're going to short the crash, do it with something else (Loaf, Bar, Britannias, Eagles, Leafs, Koalas etc)

Remember to always diversify, kids.

>> No.18613517

Fuck the trannie jannies
Fuck mene
Fuck Liberty Coin

mother fuckers let me order and then the following afternoon iget these bullshit emails. "in order to complete your purchase we will need photos of the card used and your ID'' if these cocksuckers would have put that anywhere in the checkout id of never bothered with them

>> No.18613551

>>18613486
I mostly have 2020 ASE's and some scottsdale 10oz bars. What should I be buying next after my batboi tube arrives? Krugerrands? Maples? Britannias? Fractional gold?

>> No.18613567

>>18613517
What faggot country are you in?

>> No.18613578

>>18613567
The US of Gay

>> No.18613595

>>18613578
What website? I never had this happen to me.

>> No.18613630

>>18613595
Mene.com for a sub $300 order last week and just earlier today from https://www.libertycoin.com/ trying to get a Pt eagle

>> No.18613639

>>18613486
I don't think bat coins will have special status at all. I hope I'm wrong for all the people here that got one. I just don't think they are good looking or that anyone would want silver to be reminded of a pandemic, if they even associate bats with it at all. The latter could be shilled by 4chan sellers themselves causing the batcoin to become known as the corona coin. But then still, it is associated with death and disaster and it doesn't change the fact that it's a hideous coin.

>> No.18613664

>>18613639
bruh, look at prices for prior year ATB 5oz coins. they only go up

>> No.18613677

>>18613639
Fuck you. The Samoan Flying Fox is adorable.

>> No.18613712

>>18613677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY
checked. these dubs will not be denied

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>>18613551
Honestly, anything provided you've got a decent ratio of Gold/Silver, but I've seen that the Auz 2oz's are usually quite good value as of late.
I was only giving the advice regarding collector coins, most other coins are consistant in value (and don't have the added hold of collectors factor instead of just waiting on spot to rise)

>>18613630
Anon, that site is shifty as fuck, why the fuck didn't you just use a bullion or convential trading site like the OP?
Hope you get your shit dude.

>>18613639
Nazi gold is the most collectable gold of all time outside of a few very specific misprint coins despite being related to (regardless of the political sphere here on 4chimp) nazi atrocities in normalfaggot eyes. Nobody gives a shit about the specific history, only if it looks cool and other people want it.
>It doesn't change the fact that it's a hideous coin.
I beg to fucking differ, it's leagues ahead of shit like the Disney coins. It looks professional, has a detailed design and has a decent size to it. It's all subjective yes, but it's certainly hard to call hideous.

I disagree with the extent they're going to grow to compared to most people, but their limited run alone is going to makes them worth something above spot.

>> No.18613793

>>18613765
Where does one even buy nazi gold that isnt some plated zinc bullshit?

>> No.18613802

>>18613765
I really don't think those ugly creatures deserve to be put on metal.
Anyway, I'm wondering how many nazi gold was melted down by jews and resold as holocaust memorial pins at a profit to germans

>> No.18613837

>>18613802
Ask the Swiss

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>>18613639
shut the fuck up, batlet

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How do y'all feel about this goal to reach by 2021? Realistic for a middle class 18 year old going to college next year? Doing a good job stacking cash rn and when im done with that I'm going all in on PMs on any deals I can get

>> No.18614054

>>18613971
At least call it PMG you fucking nigger

>> No.18614078

>>18614054
i bring great shame to this general

>> No.18614092

>>18614078
I am sorry for overreacting desu

>> No.18614120

>>18614092
no, you were totally within reason friend. i only seen the error of my ways after posting then came back to hide the evidence

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>>18614120

>> No.18614241

>>18614120
>>18614157
wholesome anons. I commend you

>> No.18614255

any pro bros in the thread? i only have 40oz of silver but i really wanna scoop some plat as it's dipping. premiums are super ass but i think id rather have 2oz of plat than 1oz of gold. am i a retard?

>> No.18614357

>>18614255
There's no reason to expect a bull market in platinum

>> No.18614370

>>18614255
its not a bad idea. theres been a lot of rumbling about going back to Pt for catalysts in auto. only real gamble is how much demand will there be for new cars in the future. most of it comes from russia and s. africa so supply can be problematic. i want to believe that it will outshine gold sometime but need really drives price. look at Rhenium. more rare than gold and Pt but goes for under $200 / toz still

reply in new thread also

>> No.18614442

>>18614013
If you are buying generic rounds, you might as well buy 5 or 10 oz bars instead to get more melt weight for your dollar. I'd stick to ASEs if you prefer coins and assuming you are American, otherwise just buy whatever the mint in your backwater shithole is churning out (probably cucked by the Queen's grotesque face on the back).

>> No.18614584

>>18614370
>Rhenium
Not used in much and when used not a lot of it is needed. You need more than just rarity

>> No.18614696

>>18614584
yes this is why platinum and Rhodium are worth more, they are used more in technology and chemistry

>> No.18614802

>>18598246
Anon, your information is off. Historic bimetallic ratios were between 8-16 silver/gold by weight. The US originally settled on a 15-1 ratio. Also while explicit silver mines are currently unprofitable, a huge portion of the silver supply is a byproduct from the mining of base metals anyway.

Remember the Comstock Lode? It was discovered when a guy realized the literal tons of shitty bluish dirt gold prospectors were leaving behind was full of silver oxides.

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>>18614802
well thats half true, Henry Comstock, the guy who lied his way into owning part of the Lode that would be named after him had mined lead before in Idaho, so thats why he knew what the blue gray galena ore at Virginia City was and how high grade it was. The gold miners were all placer men, and not good ones either, they were all failures from California and other successive rushes.

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>>18614802
your right on the fact that most silver comes as a byproduct from other sources like copper or gold mining, there are very few true silver mines left running today, Idaho's Silver Valley Mines are some of them.