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>> No.18536303

Second dip in two weeks.

>> No.18536375
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18536375

Rate my folio? I also have $100 in BTC.

>> No.18536652

For oil whats your guys tanker call options?
I've never done options before but believe that some tanker options are still cheap right? Or is it better to actually get tanker stocks themselves?

>> No.18536729

Pls someone enlighten me why is rtx a meme stock? Out of all defense stocks why rtx? Im confuded

>> No.18536742

Who is ready for the OOOOOOst of all OOOOOOOst of mOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOnday?

>> No.18536750

>>18536375
What price did you buy MRO at

>> No.18536751

Calling s&p 4000 to 4500 late summer.
I think we get to 2900 pretty quick, maybe monday. Can see either a small dip once this level is hit or maybe it over shoots and goes down to retest. Either way we are headed higher and fucking fast. At the next pull back/retest around 290 I am going all into $400 SPY calls mostly expiring in september but some in july and august. Once the top is in Im going all in on SPY puts strike $100 exp next year before Q3

>> No.18536769

>>18536751
Oh sweet summer child...

>> No.18536779
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18536779

>Halliburton Group
>Occidental Petroleum
>Exxon
>Gilead Sciences
>Regeneron Pharmaceuticals
>Amazon

He doesn't have this winning portfolio

>> No.18536784

>>18536769
Whatever loser.

>> No.18536785
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>>18536729
It isn't in reality its a pretty good company. Its just because a lot of biztards like yours truly shill it on the boards constantly sine the merger that its taken on the persona of being a meme.

Do your duty American friend and buy RTX we can't let them oil commies win.

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>>18536779
My god. It’s him.

>> No.18536872
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18536872

i want to caress mnuchin's wife to chill printer beats

>> No.18536917

>>18536785
to
the
fucking
moon

>> No.18536932
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18536932

What are 4-5 decent stocks I can invest some of my trumpbux in?

>> No.18536946

>>18536932
Buy MRO at $4
Buy XOM at $42
Buy HAL at whatever it dips down to on Monday morning when they release their earnings report

>> No.18536952

>>18536872
That's a man

>> No.18536962
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>>18536808
>I never use stop loss for this reason. Every trade is manual. I simply assume that it my opponent can see my trades he can manipulate the price around them. True or not it's served me well.

how do you decide when to exit a trade in that case? what do you do if the price spikes against you? if stop loss hunting is so lucrative and is used for the majority of the day (besides the first and last half hour), maybe i should just look into using a stop loss trap strategy myself, idk.

>> No.18536986

>>18536946
I’m buying all Xom and mro on Tuesday-Wednesday of next week, it’s gonna be my first stock purchase ever. $1,150 split between the two. Good idea?

>> No.18536991

Will we crab for the next month's?

>> No.18536997

>>18536932
BAM-asset manager, my top pick: renewables, private equity, utilities, real estate, they got it all.

NEE- Own FPL(florida power and light-government monopoly), incredibly solid, moving into renewables but that doesn't even matter to their business.

TDY-Industrials with huge knack for acquisitions and share price growth with buybacks

KTOS-Really nice defense play with MASSIVE potential with drone tech.

RTX-Aviation and defense play, new boeing. Pratt and whitney makes engines, large margins there.

CVX- Oil, mandatory play

>> No.18537014

>>18536785
Based RTX shill, thought on LHX?

>> No.18537017

Will STONKS tank when Q1 earnings are released?

>> No.18537020

>>18536986
I support it. You’re going into those 2 for the long run, right?

>> No.18537043

>>18536946
Are those going to go up? From what I've seen they have all fallen dramatically in the last few years.

>> No.18537052

>>18536269
I hope you've all loaded up on cruise lines.

>> No.18537053

>>18537017
No

>> No.18537058

>>18537020
I suppose so yeah I don’t mind waiting. How long approximately before they are profitable?

>> No.18537068

>>18536750
I got in at 4.24 last week. I probably should of waited until it hit 3.96

>> No.18537075

>>18536785
bought one share of RTX last week, will continue to add to my position as long as it is sub $70

>> No.18537092

>>18536997

Awesome, thank you. These are the things I'm looking for, the companies that are more "behind the scenes"

>> No.18537100

>>18537053
clown market*

>> No.18537130

>>18537075
Christ, biz is poor.

Is this normal? How poor are you retards?

>> No.18537134

>>18537058
It could be a while or it could be tomorrow, they're bleeding money right now.
>https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/historical-oil-prices-chart/
Oil stagnated for 10 years during the 90s, could well happen again. Or it could snap back. I would suggest you put half the portfolio into some other sector just so you aren't pissed at OPEC for the next year.

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>>18537014
Never heard of them, but after doing a cursory search they seem pretty interesting PE is almost close to wear it would be fair value to buy.

Also I am not the original biztard who shilled RTX first, I am just one of his converts.

>> No.18537156

How can I begin trading options on futures?

>> No.18537164

What's a good LEAP strategy? The premium for anything ITM is so high it just doesn't seem worth it, whereas anything barely OTM has a high break even price that even if you hit your strike you'll still get fucked.

>> No.18537166

>>18536751
Sometimes when I see shit like this I wish the retard who posted can be forced to take those positions with their entire net worth.

>> No.18537168

My broker takes 10 Euros for every purchase and 10 for every sell.
No matter what instrument, no matter the length I keep it. There are 20 euros that I lose on every trade.
Broker account at my bank

>> No.18537170

>>18537130
I had 6.5k lost that due to stupid trades and am back to 4.8k as of now

Currently holding:
OKE
FRO
DHT
RDS.B
RTX
MPC.

>> No.18537188

>watch cuomo livestream
>youtube chat filled with people calling it all a hoax
I never imagined it be this bad in america, how did it come to this?

>> No.18537189

>>18537092
You're welcome, since you seem new here's a great place to see the balance sheets of a company, look up the stuff you don't understand on investopedia, look for earnings and income growth and margin growth with low debt multiples.
https://craft.co/

>>18537141
based subcontractor shill, look into It, I like it.

>> No.18537190

>>18536779
>Halliburton come Monday

Anon, I....

>> No.18537199

>>18537170
lmao okay I should have known this already.. but literally never taking advice from this place again.

>> No.18537201

>>18537168
gotta make it count. long the fuck out of it. or open a RH

>> No.18537203

>>18537134
If that happens is it worth to get oil tanker calls because of state issues? I've never done options before but believe that some tanker options are still cheap right?

>> No.18537204

>>18537168
How do Euros not have a Robinhood equivalent already?

>> No.18537205
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>>18537130
>poor people exist
>there are poor people, yes more than one, in this very thread right now
>yfw

>> No.18537207

>>18536785
DESTROYER OF BROWN PEOPLE

RTX GANG

>> No.18537214

>>18537168
If it makes you feel any better back before electronic trading it was $200 a trade
Hence why people bought and held for years

>> No.18537227

>>18537199
That loss was before joining BIZ I went full retard on a penny stock hoping to flip it but it bit me in the ass. If anything Biz helped me recover with OKE and RTX

Like there are dumbasses on any board but some guys here are pretty smart.

>> No.18537246

Have been holding TQQQ for weeks because of tech's strength and just opened a position in RWM yesterday in case things go sour in the short term, but I'll close it out within the next week or two if SPY can break resistance

>> No.18537249

>>18537227
You lost money on ONTX didn't you

>> No.18537248

>>18537207
War with Venezuela when?

>> No.18537253
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>data shows gut bacteria that also contributes to lactose tolerance helps fight against coronavirus
bullish?

>> No.18537261
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>>18537043
This is from yesterday.

>> No.18537262

>>18537130
Imagine if all the poors were culled
Then you'd be poor
And soon to be culled

>> No.18537269
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18537269

>he doesn’t have the basic white girl portfolio

NGMI

>> No.18537271

>>18537249
N-no I'm still holding...

>> No.18537276

>>18537249
No QPRC and CRMD

>> No.18537278

Going to go hitchhiking soon to get away from my bad decisions in life

>> No.18537279

>>18537203
I would not fuck around with it, don't do options cause I'm perfectly happy with normal gains and if I get bored I do biotech for crazy shit. Just buy tanker stock, but it might be too late to hop on that train. Don't know too much about tankers though to be fair.

>> No.18537280

>>18536785
>>18536729
its an undervalued giant atm. I bought before the merger and after and im up 14% already. See you when it hits 100+

>> No.18537289

>>18537262
Difference is that I don't come on this Norweigan Cloud Watching forum and tell people my opinion as if it is fact.

>> No.18537292

>>18537130
I have about 71k invested and 20k in cash. Not sure how good I'm doing compared to other 27 year olds

>> No.18537300

>>18537261
Oil got short squeezed like a bitch yesterday, nothing changed fundamentally, saudis are still being dicks and demand is still zero

>> No.18537301
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>>18537130
roughly this poor.

>> No.18537314

>>18537278
based

>> No.18537315

>>18537188
Trump unironically encourages the mentally ill
He was an insane impossible literal hoax candidate running strictly as a stunt to get his tv show renewed
Then he ends up winning so all the crazies think their insanity isn't delusion but some suppressed reality or truth that only they and Trump knew

>> No.18537320

>good news: market goes up
>bad news: market goes up
This is somehow not making sense.

BRRRRR

>> No.18537350

>>18537207
Speaking of brown countries whats your guys exotic investments btw?

Do any of you guys hold any NYSE traded brazilian/latin american shares?

>> No.18537351

>>18537201
>>18537204
>>18537214
It does make me feel better.
Also, I am "allowed" to day trade, no restrictions, it's just that it's generally much harder with a 20 euro loss each time.
At least it's connected with my bank account. I am guaranteed to withdraw, it's transparent, they know the laws of my country and file taxes too so it's all clean and open.

>> No.18537358

>>18537253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if27InJBtEI&feature=youtu.be&t=190

>> No.18537375

>>18537301
There's some weirdo that was up 4mil from 1mil but then fell down to 2mil
He sounded like an oil prince or some shit though

At least I hope he was and that he hadn't leveraged his life's net worth or something

>> No.18537378

>>18537320
moving averages are always going to tell you the trend, just fucking look at them and watch out for ranges where the momentum is dead and the price action squeezes.

>> No.18537379

>>18537351
Are you in Germany, because if I remember correctly their pretty strict on the issue of day trading compared to some other EU members. Because Mutti Merkel wants that money for "welfare"

>> No.18537391

>>18537052
Who needs cruise lines when you can have cruise missiles. Load up on RTX boys.

>> No.18537401

>>18537350
BIP/BAM is good for that, they own lots of 3rd world infrastructure. Considering they're popping out kids like nothing, it's been an excellent investment.

>> No.18537414
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18537414

How's your Saturday going, lads?

>eating a PB&J with some roasted cheddar pita chips
>watching There Will Be Blood for the first time
>shitposting here, gonna play some Hades later
>random snow storm outside that'll melt tomorrow but makes everything look like a white christmas for a couple hours

feels fucking comfy

>> No.18537415

>>18537401
Isn't BAM being memed here too?

>> No.18537420

>>18537379
No. It's Latvia. The bank is owned 60% by Blackstone

>> No.18537424

none of the stuff shilled on /smg/ has made me any money
my best investment has and remains Pfizer

>> No.18537435

It's too late to buy, we're never going to have a dip again. It's too late to sell, corona will prevent another spike for the rest of my life. I'm going to suffer in stagnation until I die, what do I do?

>> No.18537449

>>18537415
A bit(mostly by me), but it's a good company.

>> No.18537454

>>18537068
>should of
Maybe you "should of" gone to school instead.

>> No.18537467

>>18537424
I check out stocks anons talk about but I have only ever bought one. If it doesn't make sense to you don't buy it.

>> No.18537471

>>18537420
Oh a Baltic person thats a rare find. Are you Latvian or Russian-Lativian?

How cheap is Riga if I wanted to visit from the US? or is there better locals?

>> No.18537473

>>18537375
He was down to like 600/700k last I saw.
Pretty unemotional about it but he said he was an asparagus so whatever.

>> No.18537476

>>18537068
The absolute state of native speakers.

>> No.18537483

>>18536375
that's some dog shit.

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Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? Do I have to wait for this cash to become investable or is this some gay Robinhood leverage because I own airline and cruise stocks? Of which are not even 20% of my equity.

>> No.18537506

>>18537476
The native speaker is never wrong, for it is his employment of the language that drives it's evolution.

>> No.18537514

>>18537471
Based conversation anon, also have a question for the latvia anon, If a guy knows russian and english, how well would he be able to travel/converse with locals?

>> No.18537521

>>18537500
Why does anyone use Robinhood over Ameritrade. I will never understand this.

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>just hold your vanguard stonks for 30 years bro
Fuck this. Im going all in on bitcoin, if im not rich in 5 years im killing myself, fuck wagecucking-

>> No.18537549

>>18537471
No russian blood in me.
Flight to Riga from the US are generally expensive from my experience. I have never been to the US, but you'd have to really look far and wide for a flight that is cheap and not in the shitiest time of the year.
I didn't understand the last part so much.
>>18537514
English should do just fine. With English almost all young people will be able to talk to you. People above 30+ are more likely to understand Russian as they learned it in school back in the old days.

>> No.18537558

>>18537521
Because it was memed as the poor man's tdameritrade before TD went feeless. Also the UI looked intuitive for first time users compared to the TD app which kinda of sucks compared to its website.

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>>18537068
>should of

>> No.18537567

>>18537506
The roman citizen's decisions are always correct for they drive the evolution of a country. Well dissolution but you know, potato, potato, potato, potato.

>> No.18537570

>>18537549
I was asking if there were better places/cities to visit in latvia or is it only Riga. Because a lot times the capitals are just tourist traps.

>> No.18537573

>>18537500
why haven't you bought 6k in amazon calls yet?

>> No.18537604

>>18537573
wtf man its way too late for this

>> No.18537615

>>18537521
I would now that it's no fees. Guessing there's no way to transfer my equity over from RH to their app/management.

>> No.18537622

>>18537315
Cope.

>> No.18537623

>>18537269
Why though?

>> No.18537625

>>18537567
If the desire of the Roman citizenry is that Rome should fall then it should be so.

>> No.18537626

>>18537558
idk i use the AMTD phone app to trade all the time, i like it.

>> No.18537635

>>18537558
I don't get it. Ameritrade is feeless and you can trade your funds the second you transfer them (i.e. before they even arrive). It has great research tools etc etc.

>> No.18537636

>>18537570
there are many nice things to see here. And that goes for every country in the world.
There are very nice old castles, manor houses, nature reserves. There is definitely more than just Riga.
If you don't like to waste money you can avoid all that quite easily.

>> No.18537641

how do it ''trade'' stocks and not buy/sell boomer style. i've been forex trading last 6 months trying to make 1% each day i trade, so far it's going well.

i want to capitalize the stock market now corona is going on. but for some reason i don't have the option to ''trade'' stocks long/short Forex style. btw i'm on DEGIRO

>> No.18537650

>>18537549
Seems like that's how it's becoming everywhere. Feels good to be american I guess. Thanks and good luck bro.

>>18537626
Yeah same, very intuitive. Options look a bit annoying though. Great app

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>>18537315

>> No.18537655

>>18537625
It isn't desire, it is incompetence and apathy masked as an opinion. Much like your english usage.

>> No.18537659

>>18537635
Yeah now but when Robinhood came out TD Ameritrade was still charging fees for trading 6.95 for selling and buying so If you wanted to trade it still will eat into you if you started out with a small amount. Plus factor in the Free stock gimmick to poor people and you got them hook line in sinker.
Also Robinhood allows for you to hold crypto.

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I bought a bike yesterday and am about to go to the bike store to tune it up, frens.

>> No.18537673

>>18537615
Robinhood allows ACAT transfers.
I was able to transfer some long holds out to a different account a while back.

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Thoughts on my portfolio?

>> No.18537686

>>18537315
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>> No.18537698

>>18537659
But Ameritrade has been free for a while now. I didn't know about crypto, I guess that makes sense, I don't trade shitcoins but considering this is biz suddenly it all makes sense.

>> No.18537701

>>18537650
>options look a bit annoying though

i still don't understand the options meme, i just day trade the stocks themselves. no one can ever seem to come up with a good reason not to besides being a poor faggot, every single time it's always people complaining about the PDT rule of needing to keep a balance over $25k, every single fucking time.

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>>18537675
This looks too advanced for me...

>> No.18537709

>>18537641
How do you trade forex on DEGIRO?

>> No.18537736

>>18537701
Do you PDT?

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>the Zoo in Neumünster is looking into creating plans to kill some animals
>they don't receive government grants so it's really a crisis of existence
I don't like this anons. I don't like when Germany starts killing things. Those numbers tend to increase much faster than the china virus.
source:
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/coronavirus-zoo-zootiere-notschlachtungen-100.html#xtor=CS5-48
Plz don't kill ice bobo

>> No.18537747

>>18537604
amazing is going to post another 20% gain next week.

>> No.18537750

>>18537500
Do you have a cash acc or margin

>> No.18537758

>>18537659
i've said before that i don't believe poor people should be involved with trading or investing at all, and i stand by that claim. the first step should always be to get an education that leads to a decent career which you can save money from after paying your bills, making sacrifices to save as much money as possible. then when you have at least $30k you can start trading.

if you can't do that you obviously have bigger problems in your life that you should be dealing with instead of gambling on the markets.

>> No.18537760

>>18537701
Even with less you can daytrade with settled funds but it's annoying, TD's thinkorswim is god tier for daytrading though. I don't do it consistently just because I enjoy swinging and having longs and that works fine with me. Daytrading is probably best right now however.

>> No.18537767

>>18537675
i hate you

>> No.18537789

>>18537707
Nah bro you got this.

>> No.18537790

>>18537424
I remember seeing Pfizer shilled here, I guess itks cursed now. You better sell before the great dump.

>> No.18537792

>>18537669
That sound fun anon, comfy Saturday

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>>18537767
Why?!!!!

>> No.18537804

>>18537655
Tryna talk to you in your own analogy buddeh, thing is the language is alive and changing on the dilly. If you don't like it you can try to resist but you'll just end up being officially wrong in a future dictionary rewrite.
Spoken language is a tool to communicate, and any way that it is used successfully to that end is correct.

>> No.18537812

>>18537500
>using robinhood
>for anything other than options

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18537836

>>18536785
i had 7 UTX and randomly got 7 RTX, 3 OTIS and 7 CARR.
"ok"

>> No.18537841

>>18536375
1/10.

>> No.18537844

>>18537804
based and dialect-pilled

>> No.18537866

>>18537736
yeah, i maintain around a $50k brokerage account and take winnings out of it usually once a month.

>>18537760
i just hate overnight risk in all honesty, im impatient so i scalp. the trick is to create a good enough algo where you can get to a small profit target where you can sell half your position and move your stop loss up to break even 90+% of the time. once you get there you can't lose since the small profit on the first half should cover you for any slippage if you get stopped out immediately. the rest of the trade becomes relatively stress free.

>> No.18537872

>>18537758
t. literal boomer

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18537880

Guys the uptrend looks like it could continue for awhile before we panic again. Do you think buying sqqq puts tomorrow when the market takes a mid-day dip is a good idea? I'd be aiming to sell them by the end of the week.

>> No.18537900

>>18537866
That's fun. You PDT with Ameritrade? I'm thinking about doing something similar, albeit with maybe 30k. Any pointers? I'm not a stock noob but I probably won't PDT (maybe, hard to say) but I'll take short swings mostly.

>> No.18537901

>>18537872
im 28 but okay poorfag

>> No.18537909

>>18537803
my heavy sqqq bags... $5.

>> No.18537912
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>>18536779
XOM only oil there I'd want. get APA instead of oxy or hal

>> No.18537915
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>>18537424
>none of the stuff shilled on /smg/

lol I literally went down the line of blue chip stocks suggested here and have made about 25% in three weeks.
Of course half of /smg/ was also telling me not to buy because it was a dead cat bounce and that the fed was going to let the economy collapse...
The only problem now is that half my portfolio is MSFT, I mean it's a good company but I don't want to be too heavy on one thing.

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>>18537315
>so all the crazies think their insanity isn't delusion
did you see Hillary supporters? and you still think Trump supporters acted more crazy? a lot of Hillary supporters didn't even believe in objective reality

>> No.18537920

>>18537901
>just give them a firm handshake until they give you a degree
>if you only have $100k you shouldn't invest bad goy, just go to school so you can be poor like the other slaves

>> No.18537922

>>18537909
Retard

>> No.18537935

Why is the market dumping this week? Am I really about to put another 2k in stonks Monday

>> No.18537945
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18537945

/smg/ I need some recommendations
>1. Any YouTube channels you watch for info about the market, trading, investing ect
>2. Any really good Stock Market movies, be they fictional or documentaries

Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.

>> No.18537949
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18537949

>>18537880
These are my gains this week btw, if you weren't positive don't reply.

>> No.18537966

>>18537866
You've got an algo? Or just a method. I've done that setup with TD, I find an uptrend and play it like that, seems to make good money. And pretty stress free as it's all automated.

>> No.18537969

Any earnings reports that are going to be particularly bad or great to look out for?
I could have made a killing on the BAC earnings report, but only put a bit into a put for that but came out with like 40% gains.

>> No.18537973

incoming supply chain crisis. lots of food places around US are shutting down due to infections and no one purchasing their shit. priced in yet or no?

>> No.18537980

>>18537900
look into squeezes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-f-aSOJLgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtCZbnwfoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ecnIcdtd8

in short it's basically playing breakouts from areas of very low volatility, which is defined technically as when the bollinger bands trade inside of the keltner channel of a moving average. it works on any time frame if you want to do swings instead of day trading. it's nice in that it makes sense: if price gets really tight, it has to release all that pent up energy somewhere, ideally as as continuation of the trend. if you get deeper into it and learn about other indicators you can use to improve your odds of success, you can make it even better, but im not going to spoonfeed you that.

>> No.18537988

>>18537909
Lmao

>> No.18538010

>>18537920
>get $30k in a brokerage account
>only trade with $5000 of it (like 100 shares of AMD)

it's not that hard.

>> No.18538027

>>18538010
>Not dumping everything into a single penny stock

it's like you don't want to make it.

>> No.18538030
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18538030

Two questions.
1. When will the Fed stop pumping money? When the virus is over or at some fixed date?
2. What are your predictions for Q2, Q3, Q4?

>> No.18538037

>>18537980
Interesting, thanks anon I'll check it out. I've been swinging based on fundamentals and news cycle sentiment with a little TA and that's been pretty good but I'd like to diversify my strategy with something like this. Will check it out.

>> No.18538038

>>18538010
Do you just need to have 25k for the day trading rule to take effect or do you have to file anything with your brokerage or irs?

>> No.18538039

>>18537758
You can suck my balls. This is a free country and we can gamble if we want grandpa.

>> No.18538040

>>18537980
You're the TTM squeeze guy aren't you, I think you shilled that guy to me as well. Interesting stuff.

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18538069

who /indexfundsonly/ here?

>> No.18538077

>>18538039
BASED

>> No.18538081

>>18538038
PDT only applies to margin accounts. If you use straight cash you can trade how you want as long as you don't free ride with unsettled funds.

>> No.18538087

>>18538027
kek

>>18538038
if you do too many trades and have less than $25k the brokerage warns you about it. if you keep doing it they flag your account and you are forced to hold positions overnight. you can google it to get more specifics, i never had the problem of falling below the threshold but i extensively backtested and paper traded by strategy for a year first.

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My fuck-around phone account

>> No.18538114

>>18538030
Fed will not stop until 2022, Virus is gonna be here until at least the end of summer, could come back in the fall but we will have enough tests to do tracing, but some social distancing will have to be put in place.

Q2 is the worst of it, bottom will likely be found then.
Q3 will be incredibly weak, you'll see a transition from a virus led weak economy to a weak economy because of financial reasons.

Q4 could be the start of the recovery economy wise. I think new ATHs in 2021 or 2022. This could be worse than the great recession, but the stimulus from the gov't can't be discounted.

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>>18538108
>KOS
Fuck yeah bro, we gonna make it

>> No.18538138

>>18538039
sure, just don't cry to me when you can't pay the rent or feed your kids.

>> No.18538159

>>18537973
think twice about it. S&P500 nearly back at ATH.

>> No.18538162

>>18538114
I think that when Donnie Pump gets elected again he's going to do everything in his power to keep the stock market constantly at new ATHs regardless of economic consequence. This is gonna be interesting thats for sure.

>> No.18538175

>>18538138
im feeding your wife buddy

>> No.18538190

>>18537746
>g*rmans are slaughtering bobos
bullish as fuck.

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18538205

>Florida rn
Is this bullish or bearish /biz/ death from ignorance seems bearish But a lot of property in non shit Florida might be opening up soon.

>> No.18538216

>>18537414
Needs fib

>> No.18538218

Does anyone else think Amazon, Netflix, etc may be in blow off tops. They've had meteoric rises over the last two months. That buying pressure will have to cease at some point.

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>>18537919
Does this thing support hillary or President Donald Trump:
you decide.

>> No.18538223

thinking of buying monday,any suggestions? i see a lot of RTX and oil shilling but im not so sure about those

>> No.18538224

>>18537758
>a decent career
If your goal isn't self employment, you're part of the problem.

>> No.18538226

>>18538205
near term bullish, but likely bearish.

>> No.18538236

>>18538030
Q2 is going to get hit even harder than Q1. It's hard to imagine what actual current unemployment is, since we're bottlenecked. More importantly, is once we do start turning and burning again, the impacted aren't going to find employment immediately. Business will scale up slowly, across all sectors. Because Q2 is going to bring in the pain, Q3 & Q4 are going to remain negative YTD across most sectors. I expect YoY to be negative into Q1/2 of 2021 as well.

This bubble won't sustain, either. Looking at things like NFLX, TSLA, AMD pushing ATHs or exceeding them, especially in the momentous uncertainty we're experiencing is just unrealistic as fuck. Tech coming near full recovery makes sense, I'd be reticent to long anything though, the attachment to ETF and index performance is seriously concerning.

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>>18538138
I don't gamble what I can't afford to lose. My wife and I both have decent jobs. Idk if you're virtue signalling about your boring gay investment strategy but it's kind of wierd for a Nepalese Hammer Forging imageboard

>> No.18538240

>>18538108
>TZOO
Shit

>SVC
REIT with no divvy?? What?

>AT
Horrible chart and no divvy, NEE is much better because buybacks and divvy

>F
I mean...

>IHT
That chart plus tiny divvy for a reit and tourism is dead for a bit.

>VRA
Shit chart and another tourism dependent one.

HAL and KOS are decent. What's the thesis for the other ones?

>> No.18538241

>>18538218
Why would it? They are save heavens and nobody cares about real valuations anyway.

>> No.18538247

Is Amazon Overvalued?
Fundamentally, Amazon is overvalued with a P/E ratio of 81.12 without offering a dividend, according to Macrotrends. I continue to view the stock as the "United States of Amazon," as longer-term growth remains highly likely. Amazon Prime memberships continue to grow.Jul 8, 2019

>> No.18538262

>>18538240
HAL is good!

>> No.18538263

>>18538218
amazon has been crushing it with this pandemic. they're overworked but are making a ton of money.

>> No.18538268

>>18538241
If the economy starts back up, or people think its starting back up, then those stocks will no longer be required as safe havens. The dump could happen then.

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that was a bit harsh

>> No.18538297

>>18538087
You’re never forced to hold a position, you can always exit a position, but if you exceed the limit you can’t buy again for 90 days or until a day closes with you above 25k

>> No.18538296

anyone else losing confidence in their long positions? great gains from the bottom because I bought in when they were cheap, but now stocks are back up and the economy is basically the same or worse than it was when things dumped.

>> No.18538299

>>18538162
Oh yeah, I'm loving this market, nice to be a part of something historic.

>>18538236
Yup this is a virus catalyzed financial crisis, I think a prolonged retreat is gonna be in order. Those P/Es need to come down, Fed buying equities is gonna mean the death of the US economy, gonna keep all the zombies afloat, an admission that we cannot grow organically.

>> No.18538334

>>18538236
>actual current unemployment
it's probably about 25%. we're going to get to like 35%

>> No.18538340

>>18537623
All women do is consoom

>> No.18538344

>>18538299
well if the fed is buying stocks how will they drop? why not long them is the general attitude at the moent

>> No.18538347

>>18538240

>>TZOO
It'll bounce back
>>SVC
Bounce back
>>AT
Meh. I bought it a few years ago, nbd to keep holding it
>>F
DCA @ $9 It'll come back - eventually - maybe
>>IHT
See AT reasoning
>>VRA
Bounce back
>HAL and KOS are decent.
Well thank you

>> No.18538348

>watching live streaming news on news app
>have my location (in app) set to several cities so I can get a sense of what the general sentiment is and also what message is being sent to the masses
>california: covid19
>washington: covid19
>new york: covid19
>philadelphia: "Casualties mount as the death toll intensifies this weekend. With no signs of letting up, the block war rages between the East Street Yoots and the Market Station Basketball Americans. 13 people were killed during a particularly pitched gun battle, an Uber driver managed to escape relatively unharmed after returning fire at his assailants."
It's nice to know things in Phildelphia have remained largely unaffected by the virus

>> No.18538362

who here riding moderna wave to the promised land

>> No.18538364

>>18537746
>throw away vet-pass
>call him bobo al ibn durka
>claim Mutti-gibs
ez

>> No.18538376

>>18538334
what is the current story with the potential re-opening of the US/global economy, though? i still don't understand it. is there something im missing or are we literally just gonna let a bunch of people die from coronavirus because we need the machines to be run by the wage slaves so badly?

like it sounds like "we're gonna reopen the country because we're gonna reopen it, fuck you", i don't get it there hasn't been a treatment or vaccine for corona discovered yet idk why the government is so bullish.

>> No.18538381

>>18538236
>>18538299
so should i wait until q2 to buy the bottom?
Im only in crypto right now as stocks are a clusterfuck right now. what do anons?

>> No.18538396

>>18538247
Maybe but they're also one of the most successful businesses right now amid the pandemic
They're overbought as a safety play but at the same time they're making money. Are they making enough money to be worth their current price?
Probably not, but the fact they're making money means they're able to exact a sort of "safety" premium

>> No.18538401

>>18537709
i trade forex on Pepperstone but could you answer my question

>> No.18538409

>>18538344
They aren't going to buy stocks, and even if they do it won't be in large quantities

Propping up the market with direct buying turns into real inflation that people can cash out on much faster than QE can, and I don't think Jerome is willing to turn us into Venezuela just yet

>> No.18538426

>>18538376
>or are we literally just gonna let a bunch of people die from coronavirus because we need the machines to be run by the wage slaves so badly?
That is exactly it.

The joke of it is that what people should be demonstrating for is some sort of plan to provide the bare essentials (food, housing, water, electricity, some quantity of internet) for emergencies like this (and no, this isn't a once in a life time pandemic, and there are other global catastrophes that can and will happen) instead you have the cattle clamoring to be let into the slaughter house.

>> No.18538430

>>18538347
But look at the long term charts, they don't bounce back... ever...
Just my two cents but I think you buy value for the sake of value, focus on buying quality stocks first, then try to buy the cheapest one out of those, my dad made the same mistake, bought F and GE and they went down and just down, they don't bounce.

>>18538381
https://epdf.pub/bear-market-investing-strategies-wiley-trading.html
Read this for some context on bear markets.

>> No.18538445

>>18538376
If you watch the news you would see, it's all about 'the curve' basically the problem isn't that people are dying, the problem is that the healthcare system is limited, if the 'curve' is too high then people will die at crazy numbers due to them being turned down. the goal is to keep the healthcare systems working.

Once everyone has been treated they will have to let everyone out but just with more measured in place. potentially causing second wave, but probably won't be as bad because nobody is mingling and people will find ways to get around it with masks etc.

this will go on until everyone has caught it and 'herd immunity' or if there is a cure

>> No.18538451

LUV (Southwest Airlines) earnings are due on 4/23 before market open. Do you guys expect it to drop or not?
Everyone said things were priced in for the banks, and that wasn't true. They dropped hard on bad earnings. LUV might do the same.

>> No.18538458

>>18538445
Testing is important as well. Full testing is gonna come in around late may and june

>> No.18538459

>>18538430
are you saying I should sell by rcl carnival delta Marriott and American airlines?

>> No.18538462

>>18538401
On Degiro you can only short EU stocks which you do buy clicking "sell", then you get a -x stock on your portfolio which you have to buy back at whatever price. If you want to point scalp I can't help you but I don't know myself.

>> No.18538473

>>18538426
i heard the antibody tests still aren't accurate either which sucks. a super powered "Flu" ripped through my family in early Feb, it would be really nice to know if that was corona or not. it would be a load off of my mind.

>>18538445
i mostly just hope that we learn something from this, that things change in reaction to it. i know they most likely won't, but i hope, at least. like, at least be prepared for the next one. again, most likely won't and we'll go through this all again in another decade, but i still hope.

>> No.18538475

>>18538459
Not him, but I'm leaning that way. They can't go any further down because they've already been hit with the maximum problems possible (full and total shutdown).
So they can only move up from here.

>> No.18538496

>>18538462
>>18538401
sorry for all the retarded mistakes i am playing a videogame in the background.

*you do by
*I would like to help you but I can't. I would like to know myself.

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When the fuck do airline stocks go up /biz/!?

i cant hold these bags any longer

i can sell at market open and probably break even or at a very minimal loss

>> No.18538536

>>18538445
some places already halfway to herd immunity.
this is good news. means fatality rate is very low. but media spinning fear. as usual.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/third-blood-samples-massachusetts-study-coronavirus

>> No.18538542

Been holding theses for awhile.
Oil: XOM, RDSB, CVX, COP, HAL
Defense: AVAV, KTOS, GD, LMT, RTX
Tech: AAPL, MSFT
Consumer/Manufacturing: KO, SWK
Shekels: V
Medical: PFE

>> No.18538545

>>18538451
Airlines are absolutely fucked, earning are gonna make that clear. They have no revenue and huge CapEx same with cruises. And bailouts are just gonna hurt shareholders as buybacks will be cancelled. Airlines are already downsizing.
>>18538459
If you are overweight in them, sell half, risk to reward is not too great, but still good growth, it's like oil, great as part of a larger folio but if thats all you have. Get ready for a 50% chance of getting fucked

>> No.18538553

>>18538516
Probably not for another month.

>> No.18538554

>>18538516
try to convince every investor that airlines will make a great earning and growth comeback this year.

>> No.18538556

>>18538010
You have no idea what education costs. You're not getting even one year on $30k, let alone the mandatory 4 years. That's not even to mention the ~quality~ of the job market right now where all desirable jobs (i.e. those that pay enough over a cashier's regular pay to be worth 4 years and infinite money debt to be worth it) are extremely competitive and mostly outsourced anyway. If instead you were to invest the 30k as you said, you could turn it into the mandatory education fees in a handful of years, especially if you pour in more of your income into it over time. You could easily save up 2x-4x faster overall in that scenario. Moreover, with the capital you collect that way, you could switch to a virtually risk-free setup such as something dividend-heavy, take a loan, and repay the loan from the passive income while you study without having to both trade and study at the same time. No matter how you look at it, suggesting people should squander their meager income on education BEFORE investing is insane. If they're really good at this they would make significantly more money just continuing to trade, if they're not they'd still make significantly more and faster if they invested or traded with their income while looking to cover tuition.

>> No.18538562

>>18538458
is it unreasonable to think the solution is to make sure everyone (and i mean everyone) gets tested, and then just have anyone testing positive to stay home until they don't test positive anymore? seems like that's the best stop-gap measure we've got while waiting for a vaccine or whatever.

>> No.18538566

>>18536375
>cricket
even your phone is poor

>> No.18538567

>>18538545
So puts on airlines then, just like banks. Got it.

>> No.18538576

>>18537915
Missed out on apple

>> No.18538578

Someone please explain to my dumb ass if its possible for USO to go up? Because of contango it can only go up if spot price goes above futures? That seems weird. Spot is 18 and futures are 26 so there would have to be some gigantic move up that takes spot to 28 then?

>> No.18538580

>>18538566
kek

>> No.18538590

>>18538348
>philly being philly
kek.
also looked at numbers for PA. more than half of deaths just from nursing homes. 459/836
my county has more than 2/3 deaths from nursing homes.
figure the rest are also mostly elderly, obese, or poor health.

>> No.18538608

>>18537227
>>18537199

FRO and DHT are solid swing trades right now. RTX is fine and RDSB is fine long term hold

>> No.18538618

>>18537945
Shkreli's finance shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_riscmviI&list=PLJsVF3gZDcuTxcdH5FmQRTd6MiJ29X_OQ

>> No.18538633

The thing is though, yeah airlines hotels and cruisers arent making any money till it's well over.

But there is a 500% return to be had if they are to go back to where they were before. even if it takes 2-3 years. a 500% gain over 5 years is still tasty

>> No.18538644
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>>18537653
Milk truck has arrive
>>18537919
Trump DOES encourage the delusions of groups like the Qtards.

>> No.18538678

>>18536375
It’s just awful bro, start looking into fundamentals instead of 4chan memes

>> No.18538699

>>18538376
The United States is pretty big & very diverse so Trump has stated that the Governors should open when they deem it necessary. This is genius because it puts the onus on the state govs, circumvents the House, and lets places that have next to no foreign traffic and tons of space. The aforementioned states have little to no need for a shutdown and can manage with a hesitant re-opening. Large congregations in places like stadiums and convention centers are too high risk as an outbreak might overwhelm local healthcare facilities, these will be closed for a long time.
The three phase plan will be progressive in its approach. states like NJ (north), MA, RI, and CT or dense counties with cities like NYC, LA, Richmond VA, Seattle, Detroit, Chicago and Philadelphia will be stuck in phase 1 until at least march. each state can make a response and places outside of these problem zones will be able to move back to normal soon, excluding conventions and maybe large gatherings. If a governor opens up "irresponsibly" and shit goes down, the feds will step in and implement their controls. If there is an outbreak after getting to phase 2 or 3, the state governments can return to phase one.
In terms of we're we're going to see a big losses and increasing issues will be in keeping small businesses afloat, raising state funds, and managing local funds. The Unemployment claims are going to suck out a ton of money from the states. The small businesses aren't getting SBA PPP loans fast enough, and payments on loans and contracts are due. These businesses are at risk for bankruptcy, states and munis won't be able to sell many bonds because everyone is unemployed, and about 42% of our workforce is at risk (excluding large businesses). the outbreak is nothing compared to the financial disruptions.

>> No.18538708

>>18538618
Thanks, I had no idea he had a YouTube channel

>> No.18538717

>>18538542
Actually decent, look into BAM NEE and TDY if you wanna make it, excellent growth companies with the balance sheets to make it through a recession

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>>18538699
>and lets places that have next to no foreign traffic and tons of space
tons of space get back to work asap.
>phase 1 until at least march
Mid May

I need my coffee

>> No.18538751

>>18537454
>>18537476
>>18537559

Anything less then 5 dollars for these guys is workable you guys just like to shit on people

My next play is to pick up some more XOM KOS and CLR

>> No.18538786

every single biotech/pharma stock looks the fucking same. they're all dogshit straddling a mere 50 cents in movement over a year.

>> No.18538805

>>18538746
my boss keeps """"hinting"""" at me that they'll get me back in by the start of June (massachusetts here, in the middle, not Boston), how reasonable do you think that is? i've kinda given up and accepted that we're all gonna get it and just have to hope we don't die from it, it's really depressing and frustrating after hearing that even young people have died from it and it can scar your lungs and other shit even if you survive. i don't want that, but what can i do? i just have to go back to work and hope for the best i guess, even though i work a tech job and there are tons of changs and pajeets here.

>> No.18538812

>>18538717
I was one who shilled TDY months ago, but I rather grab other things since it's over 300 at the moment. Not sure if I wasn't to venture into medical more and get back GSK since I sold it earlier or just add to current holdings for those a have fewer of. To many I want to grab at the moment and all that jazz.

>> No.18538816

>>18538542
>no tmdx, uthr, azn or teva

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>>18538816
NO

>> No.18538854

>>18536751
You’re dumb as fuck btw. You have a 5 figure account at most and started trading probably this year.

>> No.18538858

>>18538805
most people who get it don't even have symptoms.
asymptomatics are around 50-60%. maybe higher.

>> No.18538873
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18538873

I am planning on holding these long-term. Any suggestions? I have about 25k left in cash to sue also

>> No.18538878

>>18538854
He’s wrong Spy’s actually going to 5k

>> No.18538880

>>18538846
I try to feed you boys good picks with my industry experience but nobody ever listens, sad.

>> No.18538884

>>18538473
>i heard the antibody tests still aren't accurate either
That's not true, and you should still get tested. In the world of the not too distant tomorrow being anti-body positive for NCOV (meaning you've had it and survived and are now immune [or a carrier spreading death]) will be a REQUIREMENT for employment.

>> No.18538891

>>18538880
>UTHR
Did you actually research their organ reanimation and transportation machines?

>> No.18538898

>>18538536
>"half way to herd immunity"
>and that's a good thing!
>fox news link
Holy SHIT m8 could you BE any more of a useful idiot?

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18538899

>>18536751
No.

>> No.18538904

>>18538873
I have 150 shares of CCL, unsure if I want to go long with it or sell on the next $1-2 a share pump. What's making you long on it?

>> No.18538912

>>18538644
The Q Movement was genius too because it keeps the base interested and informed about the issues, unfortunately, it appears that medias chainsaw to the Q Movements scalpel is just winning the propaganda war with Dems just can't stop winning elections.

Also Dems are going to make a monopoly on the entire democratic process with all their crazy vote by mail, vote with no ID, vote while getting a blowjob by a prostitute you met on /r/ politics, just remember to vote BLUE ;)

So looks bad for conservatives this election. China will end up being a huge winner they will get anyone they need elected. Its honestly admirable how well they completely coopted our liberal leftist class through using our SJW forces against us.

>> No.18538918
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18538918

What’s this pattern called?

Was I supposed to sell?

>> No.18538925

>>18538873
Hold on to your cash, all or some those stocks might dip depending on their earnings even though they should unironically actually literally be priced in

>> No.18538926

>>18538904
Yeah let me correct that. CCL is the only one I am NOT long on. I am planning on selling that whenever the price pops up a little bit. Long-term I think cruises are going away.

I have 240 shares and am going to sell when its up around ~$20 I think.

>> No.18538936

>>18538880
I invest in things that end life.

>> No.18538942

>>18536375
It's good. Don't listen

>> No.18538944
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18538944

Are we drawing head and shoulders? Almost every company's chart is like this.

>> No.18538948

>>18538912
>Dems are going to make a monopoly on the entire democratic process with all their crazy vote by mail
What the hell are you talking about?

Is there a way to see who vote by mail votes for? I would guess it’s generally more red than blue.

>> No.18538951

>>18536872
Adams apple

>> No.18538958

>>18538925
Yeah I am still planning on sitting on what cash I have unless some crazy good deal come sup for sale. I can't decide if I should go ahead and contribute to my IRA and just buy even though the market could go down further.

>> No.18538963
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18538963

So green or red tomorrow?

>> No.18538965

>>18538898
>hurr durr faux news
yah, yah. i'm not a fan of fox news, but the study was done by mass general so fuck you.
results of stanford study and other studies coming in that sample the general population are all showing similar results. that it's more widespread than reported and the fatality rate is low.

>> No.18538966

>>18536375
>absolute trash
>chink trash
>BTC
>cricket
>android

imagine the smell

>> No.18538974

>>18538963
Blue

>> No.18538983

I want the US to reopen so we can get some happening surges. Like 10k down a day for a week.

>> No.18538987

>>18538805
>start of June (massachusetts here, in the middle, not Boston), how reasonable do you think that is
pretty reasonable, i think. I'm in NJ, and we're waiting for word from the governor, but we'll probably only have people in the office (who can work remotely) starting in June or July. anyone who can work remote should be working remote until phase 3 is on the horizon. It's good that your boss wasn't hinting at mid May. Sounds like a good guy.
>even though i work a tech job and there are tons of changs and pajeets here
if you're not a military contractor, can't you work from home? see if you can get a flexible wfh arrangement. at least you can limit your exposure if it still seems like a worry come next month. watch the other states and see if there is an uptick in the midwest and europe. that's what i'm watching.

>> No.18538998

>>18538944
Pretty sure by the end of this week if you have short positions you'll be fine. Somebody is going to have to make the first big exits on AMD, NFLX, AMZN, and etc... and that'll start another megatopple, everything is concentrating on supermajors, and specifically tech supermajors. See: >>18538899

>> No.18539017

>>18538987
how do you watch that sort of thing?

>> No.18539043

>>18538998
Nein

>> No.18539060
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18539060

Is now a good time to buy CCL?

>> No.18539068

>>18539060
I bought yesterday senpai.

>> No.18539081

>>18538998
i feel like if you wanna do these sorts of longer term swing plays, what you'd want to be watching out for it when some bad coronavirus news comes down the pipeline. the time to make the big money will likely be to short something as soon as we get some re-opening problems, 2nd wave of infections, that sort of thing. i mean like the very first time you hear about it, read the first headline, you short shit. i should have done that when i first read about coronavirus infecting countries outside of China.

>> No.18539117

>>18539060
Saudi and their biggest insiders bought hundreds of thousands of shares so yes I think so. Not that theyre going to turn a profit anyime soon with their 11 fleets of ships. They did a good job building up a cushion scrambling for cash in the openning weeks. They will survive this. But their debt is doubled and will continue to do so.

Yes, but cheaper then 12 or 13. They will continue to have some dips. Pick them up while theyre cheap like everything else.

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18539132

>>18536932
BRKB
JNJ
MSFT
PG
PEP
KO
LMT
And probably KMB, but you might want to wait til they report earnings just in case.

>> No.18539147

>>18539017
I've been listening to the governors and the president via Youtube livestreams - all easy to find.
Everyone appears to have their head cutoff because the data is absolute shit. I trust loosely what /pol/ has uncovered back in Jan-Feb. The testing capacity and processing capacities are overarching undertones that should be considered when reading anything. >>18538854 might be completely right and it's a nothingvirus (based on italy and the US mortality graphs, it at least is correlated with a huge uptick in hospital admissions), but the large disruption is absolutely a somethingburger. It's very, very likely that the virus generally just handicaps the health system and has well under a 1% fatality rate.

>> No.18539165

>>18538205
Unless those are a bunch overweight boomers then I wouldn't care about property prices. Its not like they are all packed in a cold and confined grocery store.

>> No.18539178

>>18539081
Bout like this?
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/wuhan-has-reopened-yet-nobodys-going-out-eat

And maybe I'm wrong but I don't think generating ATHs in companies that have debt burdens that are totally unprecedented and never generated revenue is fucking insane, there's big boys looking to bail the fuck out, and they're going to take the inflated prices with them. And when they do, dependent ETFs and weighted indexes are going to go with them which is going to trigger another fuckoff. There's just no precedence for companies like NFLX to hold a PE like this. And their asset growth is going to be staunched with travel and social distancing in vogue. Nobody is going to be comfortable bagholding like that.

>> No.18539181

>>18539060
>if you think the cruise industry will return post-corona
>if you think CCL can survive bankruptcy long enough to see post-corona
>if you think that post-corona is possible, and this current situation isn't 'the new normal'
then yes, it's a good time to buy.

>> No.18539201

SPY 295 and SPY 275 will happen this week. Some people get spooked off earnings, people get greedy, etc. Question is in which order will it happen. Strangles all the way I guess.

>> No.18539202
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18539202

>>18538998
>Somebody is going to have to make the first big exits on AMD
lol wrong.
AMDCHADS WE RYZEN THE FUCK UP

>> No.18539211

>>18538376
Really doesn't matter at this point whether we open or not, imo. The damage is done at this point to economy.

>> No.18539228

>>18539060
I am selling my shares Monday. Cruise lines clientele largely consist of retirees, so a bunch of old folks aren't going to get on one unless they a death wish baring a vaccine

>> No.18539229

>>18539202
Any news as to when their new high-end gpu's are coming out? Last thing needed to complete what would probably be my final build.

>> No.18539240

>>18536720
I've YOLOed on April or March options like a retard with all my money instead of going with 1-10%. Bear in mind that this was my first options trade. Absolutely retarded, followed some moron on WSB with his 155 18/4 puts, see this -
>>18267706

Now I'm holding some CHWY, CVNA and SPY puts for may

>> No.18539243

>>18538963
monday green
tuesday green
wednesday big red
thursday crab
friday big red

>> No.18539245

>>18539211

Won't be seeing moderate releases until mid May and full until June at the earliest. Damage is already set in stone, now we're speculating on the extent.

>> No.18539249

>>18539202
AMD is very close to overbought status.

>> No.18539268

>>18538963
Terrible earning:SPY +10%
Bad earning:+20%
Neutral earnings :+30%

>> No.18539269

>>18539249

>almost at pre corona ATH
>not overbought

>> No.18539271

why doesn't the government just pause all debt obligations for families under 1M net worth and small businesses under 5M net worth? and let states delegate to counties to manage it? that would be infinitely easier than all these bullshit checks and bridge loans... fuck the rich just let debt obligations pause for the poor until states officially reopen.

>> No.18539283

>>18539228
Old people don't mind going out in a bang desu. Some boomers literally lived on cruises until they died. The main threat to cruise ships is how long they have to stay closed and if they can actually contain/prevent corona outbreaks (cruise ships have always been awful for any disease outbreaks). The industry will rebound quickly after a vaccine is made. The problem is only the wait, and I would not want to baghold during that wait vs investing in safer money or quicker gains.

Also, I honestly don't know if data center demand will be enough to keep semiconductors on the upturn. Non-commercial demand is about to shrink drastically. AMD might still be up because they're budget, but I don't like the risk in the short term (long term plays are still fine).

>> No.18539284

>>18539243
first time a prediction here matches my model, we'll be rich or fucked together desu

>> No.18539289

>>18538965
>the study was done by mass general so fuck you.
Then... link through to the study and post that. We’re not drooling boomers. We can read an abstract and conclusion of a study, or it’s results as interpreted by someone besides a buzzfeed-tier clickbait factory.

Besides, Maddox already solved the fatality rate problem.

>> No.18539290

>>18539284
post your model

>> No.18539302

>>18538473
good news is they're finally getting around to setting up sentinel monitoring - think canary in the coal mine. something we should have already had a long time ago - especially with global travel and increased risk of pandemics. honestly retarded that we didn't already have it in place years ago.

>> No.18539307

>>18539271
why cant the government let everyone go back to normal and let .5 percent of people die thus saving the economy

>> No.18539312

>>18538963
It literally cannot go red. The feds won't let it

>> No.18539333

>>18539243
You said it!

>> No.18539339

>>18539178
not really like that, no. it would be more like if you heard of a 2nd wave of infections in China. that, but in the US or wherever you want to actually trade companies in, i don't trade Chinese companies for obvious reasons (LK kek)

>According to Xiong, people have changed their behavior, perhaps for good.
>"People in the past dined out with their colleagues in their lunch hour, now they’re all getting lunchboxes," he said, sitting in an empty booth at his Sichuan restaurant. "They’re more likely to cook at home than go out."

honestly part of me likes the idea of people "changing their behaviors for good", i was hoping at a minimum this pandemic would wake people up and cause them to be more aware of things and of other people, to be kinder and have better hygiene, realize that in life we really are "all in this together", as in all of humanity. we'll see if any of that actually sticks but i do like to here people actually taking this seriously instead of fucking around like some people in the US like those dudes carrying confederate flags and guns blocking that hospital, project gridlock or something like that. so stupid.

>> No.18539343
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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>> No.18539350

Never see anyone talking about GD. Always rtx and lmt, but they're an even more fundamental defense company, and they have a much higher return to their ath

>> No.18539353

Guys, please, pump NIO for me. I need to get to 43,5 dollars to break even and pull my money out of this stock. Please,.

>> No.18539365

>>18539343
what are some good dividends right now fren

>> No.18539371

>>18539245
Well opening early versus later is quickly devolving into Rs vs Ds. So its going to be a mixed bag where red states open up earlier b/c they don't have as high pop densities so it spread much slower. And Blue states will be later since they have large urban pops that cause it to spread like wild fire, and their general "fuck Drumpf" attitude.

>> No.18539381

>>18539375
NEW
>>18539375
>>18539375
>>18539375

>> No.18539382

>>18537350
I own a few shares of Central Japan Railway

>> No.18539391

Biz anons I ask you for guidance. What do I do with my oil and gas holdings given the recent pump despite the overall situation looking bad by early may.

I am currently in 20 RDS.B (at a lost because shell if fucking stupid sometimes), a small position in tankers 39 shares combined (DHT/FRO),40 shares OKE position for that natty gas, and 29 shares MPC because it was a cheaper PSX.

Is it worth it to hold or will it go lower and I should take my small gains? I want the divies and growth potential offered by these stocks but have a feeling that this oil crisis could have significant effects down the road for the price for a while.

>> No.18539398

>>18539339
chinese people are dogs and deserve death.

>> No.18539405

>>18539365
MCD, V, VZ, LOW, JPM, BAC

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>>18539290
ignore the orange line, what matters is dot density. n=1-60 day forward prediction. It's a really good measure of real value and almost always mean reverts to it roughly exponentially. Because of the Bart hair this week it gives bimodal forward predictions which I've never seen before lol. At best bullish to ~wed/thurs

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>>18539228
Dont do what this guy is doing.

>> No.18539562

>>18539546
Saudis bought carnival cruise lines only to lose money? Are Saudis that dumb?

>> No.18539737

>>18538958
You can trade rapidly in the IRA since you don't have to worry about cap gains. So I'd cap out the contributions at least, even if you aren't planning on taking much of a position.Those contributions can be taken out without a penalty for various qualified life events (medical, housing, etc.) and there's a temporary rule allowing withdrawal without penalty if you need to use it to get through coronaturn to $100K. No reason not to max contributions to IRAs right now.

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18539899

>>18539428
Are the dots the spread of share cost?

>> No.18539912

>>18539562
I couldn't tell you why the saudis bought a bunch but I know they like ships and it sends the value of their company up