/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.18528134]

FUCK TRIPFAGS EDITION


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>Screeners:
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https://www.tradingview.com/screener
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>Pre-Market Data and Live Data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>misc
https://stocktwits.com/
https://biopharmcatalyst.com
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/
https://fintel.io/
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://google.com

>>18525566

[Anonymous No.18528143]

Nigger

[Anonymous No.18528148]

>futures poomping

ughhhh I'm gonna buy.

[notatripfag !!g1z0ZtqhvTh No.18528151]

I love traps

[Anonymous No.18528154]

Fundameniggers can hang from a tree.
Reading a report with 2 week old data and some news articles doesn't vindicate you.

[Anonymous No.18528163]

>>18528154
BASED

[Anonymous No.18528171]

Sandstorm Gold. Thank me later fags.

[Anonymous No.18528175]

>love
cunny
>hate
tripfags

simple as

[Anonymous No.18528187]

Imagine not participating in the great fire sale of 2020, which took place earlier today. It will be talked about in history books for ages to come. From here on out there will only be unprecedented gains, frens. We finally made it.

[Anonymous No.18528190]

Fuck bros. I did the unthinkable. I did the needful.

I put $210 into -2x smallcaps etf.

And I don’t even have a real job...

[Anonymous No.18528194]

I'm looking to open a third position. I've got KO and RTX and I want to use the rest of my cash to put into one more company until I can add more cash. I was thinking about going into MRVL seems like a decent company and a 5G play

[Anonymous No.18528198]

Redpill me on the “biblical” crash on Monday.

[Anonymous No.18528205]

>>18528154
I have never read a quarterly earnings report. I have no idea what any of it means.

[Anonymous No.18528210]

>>18528198
It's going to crash so hard it will go up

[Anonymous No.18528212]

continuing >>18528096

with >>18528176

[Anonymous No.18528213]

>>18528154
You seem to be butt frustrated by the fact that the economy does support your short-to-medium term bullish outlook. I hope you take your profits when the time comes.

[Anonymous No.18528215]

>>18528205
Based and gamblerpilled

[Anonymous No.18528223]

Why do people here think it's gonna tank Monday? The market is detached from reality, explain to me how, outside of some select stocks and even some industries to an extent, it's possible to predict what happens next

[Anonymous No.18528228]

>Why yes, I did purchase $3000 of RTX when it was just $60 a share. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.18528235]

Morgan Stanley rose the S&P 500 target to 3000 before the Gilead news.

Monday is gonna be green.

[Anonymous No.18528239]

>>18528194
Go all in on NET.

[Anonymous No.18528245]

>>18528223
Bears have been screeching black monday big red since they had 2-3 in a row a month ago. Its not happening anymore. Been like a month where there wasnt a red monday but theyre clinging to those Monday gap downs.

[Anonymous No.18528260]

>>18528245
Beartards have lost everything and the only thing they can do now is hope. Well, I say fuck 'em.

[Anonymous No.18528265]

>>18528245
I'm sure sooner or later we'll test and even break those lows from around March 20th, I just don't see how that happens Monday. Though the irony is on one hand I want stocks to go up for one account, while I missed the 3/20ish bottom for buying back into my mutual fund so I'd like that to go down again

[Anonymous No.18528266]

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[Anonymous No.18528274]

>>18528205
based

[Anonymous No.18528276]

>>18528245
it was so beautiful....
why did it have stop....

[Anonymous No.18528277]

>bought my first stocks a couple of weeks ago
>up $1000

[Anonymous No.18528287]

>>18528239
>>18528194
seconding NET, alternatively CARR looks good, Brookfield is always solid, or if you're feeling spicy maybe MRO

[Anonymous No.18528289]

>>18528277
based

[Anonymous No.18528293]

Yes great time to buy stocks, nothing to worry about here buy up goyims

[Anonymous No.18528295]

>>18528245
real bears became bulls when the trend changed, all thats left are retards longing inverse ETFs and wondering where all their money left

[Anonymous No.18528297]

>>18528293
t. rooiner who missed the bottom

[Anonymous No.18528304]

>>18528171
bruh give me a ticker

[Anonymous No.18528309]

>>18528190
get a job

>>18528277
blessed

[Anonymous No.18528310]

>https://quantitrader.com/algorithms/stop-losses/
>I used to always put in stop loss orders.
>It was just part of the trade.
>I would enter a trade and then immediately put in a stop loss order.
>It was as second nature to me as slipping my little pinkies into soft slippers before touching the hard, cold, tile on the bathroom floor in the morning.
>But I was getting stopped a lot so started to pay more attention.
>I would watch my stop loss order being filled then, in pure and utter amazement, watch the price reverse course and take on the characteristics of the Dukes of Hazzard running from Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane.
>I was immobilized with a feeling of a bride left at the altar. I was just as angry as the aforementioned bride would have been so I set out to answer the question:
>What the heck was happening?
>Here is Bruce Robinson’s response when I posed the question to him (Bruce is also a personal friend of Howard Bandy’s ).
>“Early on, I did quite a bit of testing with stop-loss orders (and trailing stops as well). My conclusion was that they hurt the results of the vast majority (almost all) trading systems, or resulted in over-fitting of stop parameters. So, I decided not to use them, and not to incorporate the option into systems. I later confirmed this with others. Howard (Bandy), for example, also says that they almost always hurt performance.
>Please note the above statement is talking about perfectly executed stops where:
>-other participants such as brokerages or ECN’s did not have knowledge of stop points
>-stops were triggered by executed order prices
>In practice, stops perform even worse because the above two conditions do not hold true.”
>I’m sure I’m getting some head nods in agreement, however, I’m just as sure there are more out there ready to tar and feather me who still believe stop losses are as necessary as the air you breathe. If you are in the latter category, please read on.

Is he right? SLbros, i don't feel so good...

[Anonymous No.18528318]

>>18528293
you should be mostly cash and bluechips with low P/Es right now

[Anonymous No.18528323]

>>18528134
I’m buying 1,200 worth of Xom on Monday. Who’s with me?

[Anonymous No.18528324]

I really wanna sell my rtx profits and buy back if it drops again. But we live in a clown world and none of this shit makes sense

[Anonymous No.18528328]

Which stocks should I buy if I don't want to end up like this?

[Anonymous No.18528340]

>>18528295
Partly true. If there's a rally or a sell-off you can piggyback off of, you might as well make what gains you can. Make money on the way down, and make money on the way back up. But it pays to keep an eye on what will move the markets in more than just the next couple of days and weeks.

[Anonymous No.18528341]

>>18528310
Holy shit i lost money on 2 stop orders today

[Anonymous No.18528343]

>>18528310
Stop loss is for fucking low IQ retards who don't even know why they are buying the stock they are buying

[Anonymous No.18528344]

>>18528310
I only buy stocks where I'm confident the value will eventually go up, and only set a stop loss once it's passed above my cost average, so "stop loss" is more like "minimum profit"
>but what if stocks go down
don't buy stocks that could realistically go to zero and they'll EVENTUALLY go up

[Anonymous No.18528347]

>>18528324
Today I sold some RTX to go all in on NET. I'm pretty content with my portfolio right now and will just sit for a while. Hopefully I played my cards right.

[Anonymous No.18528363]

>>18528344
eventually can be a long, loooong time, anon.

[Anonymous No.18528365]

I hope the S&P dips some monday. I got 2000 more to dump into my funds and the lower it goes the more "shares" and more divvy I bag. I'm kinda done chasing OTC stocks. I've had fun,made some green (only lost 700 thank god) but thanks to events (virus) I'm in a perfect spot to make epic gains over the next decades as the market surges higher.

[Anonymous No.18528368]

>>18528347
Respectable, but I'd jump back into RTX as soon as it's below $64-65, this shit is on a one way mission to $100sville

[Anonymous No.18528380]

>>18528310
Stop loss orders are for "people" with no brains and no balls.

[Anonymous No.18528407]

>>18528328
RTX

If you're Canadian, you should buy Canadian Tire.

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/TSX-CTC.A/

I bought some when it was around 82 and now it's going to the moon.

[Anonymous No.18528516]

You all sicken me.

[Anonymous No.18528532]

>>18528516

[Anonymous No.18528538]

>>18528239


>>18528287
Ok cloudfare what is it exactly what's their business

[Anonymous No.18528548]

Can't wait to hitchhike
Might just run away from society forever.

[Anonymous No.18528552]

Bonds have been wiped out as an asset class. Literally just the digital equivalent of hiding money in a mattress. Stocks literally cannot fall because money has nowhere else to go if you actually want to beat inflation

[Anonymous No.18528565]

>>18528154
All I do is research company history, plans, actions, then look at line and dump money.

Line go up *drools*

[Anonymous No.18528574]

>>18528368
if you don’t think mid 60’s is the peak you’re retarded

[Anonymous No.18528593]

>>18528516
These idiots are going to get destroyed it will be epic

[Anonymous No.18528596]

>>18528552
Having said that, if there are people pulling out of the stock market and going into bonds, what type of sentiment do you think that implies?

[Anonymous No.18528601]

>>18528574
Explain why a sub-10 P/E is justified for a defense bluechip

[Anonymous No.18528602]

>>18528175
Based cunnybro

[Anonymous No.18528603]

Have we reached peak delusion?

[Anonymous No.18528604]

>>18528574
Why is it the new peak? I keep hearing people talk about it

[Anonymous No.18528608]

>>18528194
Unironically TMDX. It’s not dipping.

[Anonymous No.18528611]

There are like, 5 /smg/ threads right now.
How does one tripfag ruin half a day's worth of threads?

[Anonymous No.18528617]

>>18528596
betting on negative rates?

[Anonymous No.18528618]

>>18528603
No, earnings season is upon us.

[Anonymous No.18528619]

>>18528604
Even if it peaks at $66 (which is retarded by any valuation metric but whatever), it's got a fat reliable 4.7% dividend at that price.

[Anonymous No.18528621]

>>18528611
By being a tripfag.

[Anonymous No.18528634]

>>18528601
market manipulation

[Anonymous No.18528640]

>>18528618
>Every company posts terrible quarter and doesn't even bother guessing the next quarter
NEW ALL TIME HIGHS BAY BEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.18528652]

>>18528640
Anything short of bankruptcy is bullish

[Anonymous No.18528655]

>>18528154
This. Anything you can learn about a company in its quarterly reports is already fully baked in. A stock's price is and always will be a reflection of future expectations, and any change in price is almost entirely the result of unexpected changes in expectations that no amount of quarterly report reading would prepare you for.

A stock's price at any given point is 100% accurate and perfect.

[Anonymous No.18528657]

>>18528603
The fed has shown they will never let the market fail. You're losing money to inflation if you aren't investing now

[Anonymous No.18528676]

>>18528652
>Carnival Cruise bankrupt MOOOOOOOOOOOON
>AMC bankrupt MOOOOOOOOOOOON
>JC Penny bankrupt MOOOOOOOOOOOON
>Marathon Oil bankrupt MOOOOOOOOOOOON
Bankruptcy just means bigger moon!

[Anonymous No.18528677]

Fuck so many companies I wanna invest in...i need more capital

[Anonymous No.18528679]

>>18528676
You're acting like this is a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.18528680]

>>18528310
He acts like a liquidity zone is some sort of top secret thing that he just found out about and has to spread far and wide. The point of a stop loss is for traders to minimize losses because no matter what, you WILL lose a majority of your trades, that's just how it is because in reality nobody knows where price will go.. knowing how to trade is basically learning how to find the highest probability trading setups and that's obviously hard. But sure, play around without a stop loss on large trades or on futures where the point value is $50.. have fun. If you plan on just holding even though you might hit negative for months then just call it an investment, kek'd.

[Anonymous No.18528685]

Any leafs here? how do you buy us stocks without geting fucked by exchange rates

[Anonymous No.18528690]

>>18528655
Take your efficient market theory and get the FUCK out of here

[Anonymous No.18528693]

>>18528676
>invest in bankrupt companies
>profits
easy money

[Anonymous No.18528714]

>>18528266
nah

[Anonymous No.18528731]

>>18528677
Same. I'm trying to build my own DEW like Divie bro with my chump change in my Robin meme account. I'm going to finally starting taking a little ownership of my 401k and see if if my HR will let me have some input in managing it.

[Anonymous No.18528769]

The sleeper stock.

[Anonymous No.18528771]

>>18528617
That'll be a trip.

>>18528657
No, they haven't. They've supported markets so that what's happened doesn't devolve into massive civil unrest. The recession is coming and it was never their goal to stop it. Inflation is/will be a problem, yes, but the idea at play here is that the economic shutdown has resulted in a deflationary effect, so the inflationary effect of the Fed's actions acts as a counter-balance for now.

[Anonymous No.18528777]

>>18528310
He's a literal retard with no balls AND no brains.

[Anonymous No.18528780]

>>18528731
Nice my company let's me decide where I wanna put my company matched rrsp funds

[Anonymous No.18528792]

>>18528685
Interactive Brokers does automatic pseudo-norbert's gambit. You can otherwise manually do it on questrade. However you can't do shit if you're on wst.

[Anonymous No.18528802]

>>18528685
I just don't. I'm all in in TSX.

[Anonymous No.18528823]

>>18528769
Hmm. I remember their jingle. Why buy a mattress aaaaaanywhere else *DING*. Before this crash I would not have been interested by their bounce trajectory off the lows does look tradeable.

[Anonymous No.18528829]

>>18528685
Yeah I moved to questrade and did norbits gambit I hated using wealthsimple because they force you to pay an exchange rate every time due to them not allowing you to hold USD only CAD. It's fine and free if you wanna trade only canadian securities if you wanna play in the states tho get a questrade or interactive brokers account

[Anonymous No.18528830]

>>18528769
I want to buy this stock

[Anonymous No.18528832]

>>18528328
Just invest in onaholes?

[Anonymous No.18528835]

>>18528685
Hold USD in borkage account specifically for that purpose. You can norbit if you need to do the exchange.

[Anonymous No.18528853]

>>18528835
Nah man hes using an app called wealthsimple trade, they dont allow you to hold USD

[Anonymous No.18528860]

Am I gonna make it bros?

OKE, RDS.B, RTX, DHT, FRO, MPC?

[Anonymous No.18528867]

>>18528853
Well then switch to better borkage.

[Anonymous No.18528875]

What if I hitchiked and ran away somewhere really far lived by myself and became a writer and did things for Jesus?

[Anonymous No.18528881]

>>18528875
Are you the sex offender anon?

[Anonymous No.18528883]

>>18528867
I agree but it's the only "free" one we have in Canada and a lot of people dont have the cash to pay fees and commissions

[Anonymous No.18528895]

Lol actually using rbc di cause I'm a boomer.

[Anonymous No.18528899]

>>18528875
Why? What did you do?

[Anonymous No.18528911]

>>18528895
If you're using RBC you should be able to hold USD

[Anonymous No.18528915]

>>18528881
>>18528899
No I'm not
I just need to get away

[Anonymous No.18528932]

>>18528769
Wait, why the fuck is Sleep Country down 50%? And at a 7% dividend yield?

[Anonymous No.18528935]

>>18528911
Figuring it out lol. Read up on norberts gambit. I will do the DLR thing, doesn't seem too complicated

[Anonymous No.18528943]

>>18528935
Yeah it's not hard but the whole process can take 5 days to do

[Anonymous No.18528968]

>>18528771
Inflation is not YET a problem, deflation is.

[Anonymous No.18528981]

>>18528968
Correct. That's what I said.

[Anonymous No.18528994]

There are no less than 5 pickup trucks and 3 boats in front of my house right now. I live in peak fucking boomerville.

[Anonymous No.18529022]

I started with 50% cash two weeks ago, now 40% cash cause of epic gainz. Any other cashbros out there? How painful were these last two weeks for you? Are we gonna get a good dip to buy soon, or are we forever doomed to dwell on what could’ve been?

[Anonymous No.18529031]

>>18528194
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.18529033]

>>18528915
I was also in that phase when I was 22 or something, just some casual depression stuff. It will pass

[Anonymous No.18529036]

How “short-term” is an asset like SPSX? Is it okay to hold this thing for a few weeks or should I only be going into it on red days?

[Anonymous No.18529043]

>>18528968
Can you explain why deflation is a problem right now?

[Anonymous No.18529045]

>>18528293
This.

You guys should know we're still in clown market territory, all this good news about the country reopening and cures being found will certainly cause a dip.

[Anonymous No.18529072]

>>18529022
If I ignore my managed accounts and retirement accounts, I have approx 35k in stocks and 12k in cash (including bank account emergency fund though)
I think I'm going to be getting an extra couple thousand bonus from work sometime.
Nothing wrong with cash, there will always be opportunities. Always always always.
I couldn't imagine being >50% in cash over the past few weeks though.

[Anonymous No.18529080]

>>18529043
because theres nothing to spend money

[Anonymous No.18529115]

will scalping still be profitable after markets return to normal? after all this corona thing is over?
the spread right now is so slim and it's so volatile and liquid right now.

[Anonymous No.18529116]

>>18528780
It's been there (between different companies) for several years and I never once bothered to check it, just passively said to myself, "it'll be there when I'm old" and carried on. Last year I just became fascinated with the market for literally no reason and just decided to jump in and learn as I go. I definitely feel comfier knowing I decided to spend my money on my own well being instead of degenerate shit

[Anonymous No.18529135]

>>18529031
God I hope not

[Anonymous No.18529144]

>>18529115
You can compensate for lower volatility/swings with higher volume

[Anonymous No.18529158]

>>18528143
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.18529159]

>>18528198

[Anonymous No.18529165]

Who is ready for 25k dow next week?

[Anonymous No.18529169]

I got a work 401k, decided to invest on my own just cause I was like "what the hell, at most I make money, at worst I lose it all" This was back in 2018. It helps knowing that if my do it yourself investing just shits at least I got my 401k and pension to fall back on.

[Anonymous No.18529187]

>>18529158
yum

[Anonymous No.18529198]

>>18529159
>Jerome "the Bull" Powell vs the virgin r/wsb

[Anonymous No.18529200]

>>18529072
Yeah 50% sucked and caused me to make some FOMO buys this week but whatever. They’re good companies and I can always hold forever if we get massacred in the coming months

[Anonymous No.18529203]

Who uses questrade? How long did it take you to get "approved"? Aren't you afraid giving your social insurance number to some dudes online?

[Anonymous No.18529213]

>>18528676
>People buying into stocks at their lowest
CLOWN MARKET
JEROME JEROME
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.18529219]

>>18529203
Lol some dudes? Questrade isnt some fly by night brokerage Haha

[Anonymous No.18529220]

Well the market will prob take a hit soon, Texas is going on ahead starting on the 28 of april with opening the state backup. Watch the number of poor people infected or dead climb like mad.

[Anonymous No.18529222]

>>18529213
You can buy INFINITE stock when it reaches zero!

[Anonymous No.18529230]

>>18529203
Those dudes online are licensed brokers and they would be in an absolute fucking world of legal shit if they fucked around with SINs.

[Anonymous No.18529235]

>>18529203
Lol everyone gets approved for an account a basic account your account is open exactly as fast as you are able to fund it

[Anonymous No.18529253]

>>18529220
>Watch the number of poor people infected or dead climb like mad
Sounds bullish desu, as long as they've got the hospital capacity

[Anonymous No.18529262]

>>18529222
It's people doubting large companies will actually go bankrupt because of bailouts dummy.
Cruise lines aren't going to go bankrupt, airplanes neither. What are they going to do with all those big ships and airplanes? They aren't going anywhere.
JC pennys is a meme.

[Anonymous No.18529264]

>>18528932
Yep that's why it's a tempting one for me. I may do an entry early next week if things look okay index wise.

[Anonymous No.18529277]

What is the deal with RTX? Is it just a meme around here to recommend RTX? The price entered freefall about a month before the corona shit. What's up with that?

[Anonymous No.18529284]

>>18529203
look into Interactive Brokers. I am thinking of switching over although I probably won't trade much The stock fees at IB are min and max $10/month, even if you dont trade that much you will be charged a min $10/month. I heard the options trading are better, maybe lower fees

[Anonymous No.18529287]

What happens in X months when all the back rent is due and burgers can't pay? Mass foreclosure/eviction?

[Anonymous No.18529288]

>>18529262
Did you know that a stock can go to zero even if the company doesn't go bankrupt? Haha, isn't that neat? Its like a magic trick!

[Anonymous No.18529289]

>>18529203
All borkages need your SIN because they have to report your trades to the tax man.

[Anonymous No.18529293]

>>18529262
JC Penney will literally get memed to $5 a share, calling it now.

[Anonymous No.18529299]

>>18529235
I mean, if Robinhood can handle it (using the word "handle" loosely) then anyone can

[Anonymous No.18529304]

>>18529284
10 dollars a month plus 1 cent per share you purchase

[Anonymous No.18529305]

>>18529293
jokes on you, I have 200 shares

[Anonymous No.18529324]

JCP fags where you at

Up 13 percent overall in two days. Spooky.

[Anonymous No.18529326]

>>18528323
You missed that boat 3 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.18529330]

>>18529277
Merger. That's why it's trading at such a discount. More than half of it's revenue comes from building and servicing planes, which means exposure to air travel. Which is fucking dead right now.

[Anonymous No.18529331]

Guys I think we are screwed.
Idiots are opening up early trying to spread a second wave of infection.

[Anonymous No.18529346]

Fellow Friday night anons, what say you about my trading portfolio?

[Anonymous No.18529352]

>>18529331
>When the second wave is worse than the first

[Anonymous No.18529356]

>>18529200
FOMO is hitting hard this week for a lot of people, I think. Several people I've spoken to have said and done the same thing you did. Which is a shame, really, because technicals, at least until today (and really even still with today in mind) are indicating a trend reversal soon. Even if there is a pull back, though, at least with proper investment strategies you feel better about holding long. Time in the market and all that.

>>18529213
Low energy bait.

>>18529287
It depends on State and Federal government policy, I think, and the phase that the state the person happens to be in. So far, the relief efforts have been extended to minimize rental/mortgage losses, prop up the associated markets, and also put a temporary hold on evictions, etc. We don't know how long that might need to extend for, because we don't know what will happen once states open up. There could be additional waves which will cause the state to get locked down again.

I'm assuming that if a state is in phase two or so by the time the current stop-gaps expire, yes, the individual will be held liable with no further forbearance. That is what a lot of people looking at the fundamental side are worried about, when combined with the ridiculous unemployment levels we're going to see. It also means that there could be a lot of associated debt that will need to get paid before that money can go back to being discretionary income, which would further slow growth.

[Anonymous No.18529360]

>>18529331
It probably looked like that an hour before too.

[Anonymous No.18529366]

>>18529331
second wave won't surface until Wednesday at the earliest

remember to sell by EOD tuesday

[Anonymous No.18529371]

enough about the fake and gay market lads, it's friday night. relax with a movie. i watched this one, it made me very uncomfortable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mns2dXHqw0

[Anonymous No.18529380]

>>18529331
There is literally no choice but to open up. This virus is too contagious, there is no point in staying locked down.

>lock down for 15 months
>virus levels reach a low level (<0.1% of pop. infected)
>open country back up
>immediately starts spreading like wildfire again because NO ONE HAS FUCKING IMMUNITY
>shut back down again 4 days after opening up
>???
>profit

Absolute fucking retardation. The history books will look back at this time with utter dismay. With an illness this contagious, it's either herd immunity, or just dismantle the fucking planet and roll over and die. No other choices.

[Anonymous No.18529382]

>>18529330
But PW and Collins don't just magic away, as soon as airline demand returns, they're making money. And they have $70B of military contracts to tide them over. It's basically on a "Buy Raytheon, get Pratt and Collins free" sale.

[Anonymous No.18529397]

>>18528190
Unf, Jack is so cute and sexy.
something about silver hair and scars on anime girls. lappland from arknights is good too.

[Anonymous No.18529407]

>>18529380
You slow down the rate of infection to not have triage deaths and to spare healthcare workers. It isn't entirely about boomers.
What the Fed is doing to the stock market though is entirely for boomers and the expense of their children, and grand children, and great grandchildren

[Anonymous No.18529420]

>>18529346
Spreads on inverse 3x ETFs in clown market. Great idea, bro.

[Anonymous No.18529437]

>>18529407
You don't spare anyone jack shit by slowing anything down. All you do is delay the inevitable, and anally cactus-fuck everyone's lives in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.18529438]

>>18529420
Thanks. I thought so myself.

Pretty unlikely to lose on mid term spreads like this in this high volatility bull shit.

[Anonymous No.18529440]

>>18529366
Why Tuesday?

[Anonymous No.18529456]

>>18529407
This.

>>18529380
As long as we can reduce the burden on the health care system to sustainable levels, then we're okay. That's the only reason we went into lock down initially. Otherwise, you're right, without a vaccine we'll have to let nature run its course and gradually open up, keeping an eye on the case rate and whether or not it stays manageable or bursts out of control.

>>18529437
What the Fed is doing is also delaying the inevitable. The markets were already historically overvalued. That said, if we wanted to avoid massive civil unrest, the Fed really had no other option. We can thank the over-leveraged market makers and poorly/greedily managed companies for that.

[Anonymous No.18529457]

>>18529324

based jcp poster

[Anonymous No.18529467]

>>18529407
Another idea would be for the more vulnerable to self isolate, while everyone else eventually gets it and develops an immunity. That would then protect the more vulnerable since the general population would now have a herd immunity.

That assumes that this isn't a bioweapon created by china that will murder everyone like 3 months from now after laying dormant in their body after pretending to recover........

[Anonymous No.18529468]

>>18529440
symptoms will prolly show by monday morning followed by surging cases the next day.

[Anonymous No.18529481]

>>18529437
Is that a fucking vape?

[Anonymous No.18529485]

>>18529380
Or we could just fucking use the god damn world's best minds, resources, and technology to fucking cure viruses once and for all. It's not like we don't already fucking know that we can literally make viruses that kill other viruses, or that we know that protein spikes can be affected.

[Anonymous No.18529487]

>>18529456
>let nature run its course and gradually open up

What you've just said is an oxymoron. We need to open up 100% immediately, no tapering, no nothing. You are not understanding. There is no drawback to opening the floodgates, because there is no benefit to keeping them closed.

[Anonymous No.18529488]

>>18529481
Looks like it. Probum?

[Anonymous No.18529491]

Why do we have 3 threads on a friday night

[Anonymous No.18529495]

>>18529491
Because SOMEBODY was being a cantankerous fuddy duddy and decided to be a goof.

[Anonymous No.18529511]

>>18529456
There will never be an effective vaccine.

No coronavirus has ever been vaccinated before, and even if it could be, the protective effects would only last like 6 months.

Treatment is needed.

[Anonymous No.18529513]

>>18529467
That's what the phases have baked into them, and I agree. But, initially, we had to build up our health care response to a degree that we could handle the new inflow of patients associated with COVID-19, which we would not have been able to support if we went full-blown herd immunity from the get-go. At this stage, we don't even know if we can create a successful vaccine. Look at SARS/MERS.

>>18529487
If you want to see hospitals have to triage patients between COVID-19 and other seriously life-threatening conditions, that's on you, and it's foolish no matter which way you slice it. It would not just be people that are sick with CV that get triaged, it would be people in ERs for accidents, etc. The effects on the health care system go beyond just Corona-chan. That is exactly what happened in Italy.

[Anonymous No.18529522]

>>18529485
DRACO

[Anonymous No.18529525]

Ok guys back on topic. r8 my picks:

- 25% of my funds in Exxon
- 25% in Marathon
- 20% in Southwest Airlines
- 20% in Alaskan Airlines
- 10% in RTX

Basically, I don't know jack shit about investing, I am just anticipating that previously-solid stocks will return to somewhere near where they were a year ago. And I guess maybe a wild guess that people will want to travel a lot once this retarded, UNNECESSARY, asinine lockdown is rightfully lifted.

[Anonymous No.18529534]

>>18529487
>estronaut posting
Based blue delta cancels it out though.

[Anonymous No.18529538]

>>18529371
I'm not going to watch a movie about getting stuck on a chairlift fuck that lmao
are you trying to ruin all of my future skiing adventures

[Anonymous No.18529541]

>>18529525
>Oil
>Airlines
Ok, be ready to cry in 3 months.

[Anonymous No.18529544]

>>18529525
Needs more nintendo

[Anonymous No.18529549]

>>18529525
You'll be okay if you don't panic sell.

[Anonymous No.18529551]

>>18529525
You have all of these options to learn how to invest properly, yet you choose none of them. What's with that? Dope longcat, though.

>>18529511
Yeah, the markets aren't going to take well to that news. The hopium right now is unreal.

[Anonymous No.18529574]

>>18529541
Every one of those stocks have been steady for at least a year before the chinese virus. I don't understand people who spout >le oil and le airlines is le bad. Airlines are not going anywhere, and neither is oil for at least 75 more years. Plus just look at Exxon especially. Incredibly steady. What is this meme?

[Anonymous No.18529604]

>>18529525
The answer is debt. All of those companies are taking on debt to survive, this will lower their market valuation. If oil doesn't go back to 40s by september oil is gonna be hurt bad. It took a long fucking time(years) for airline demand to return after 9/11, gonna be worse this time around. Allocate 20% of your portfolio to personal stock picks, 80% into index funds. If you do not know investing this is the best way to learn and make money in the mean time.

Also read about hedges and break even prices in the oil industry, and the absolute money drain that maintaining aircraft is. One of the reasons boeing is fucked is that they had to pay to maintain a fuck ton of 737 MAX in parking lots. Airlines are already downsizing fleets, meaning less revenue when we open up.
Good luck bro, it's crazy times, read investopedia and do not forget to Dollar cost average in.

[Anonymous No.18529616]

>>18529538
it's okay, they only get fucked because they tried to squeeze in one more run down the course when the place was closing up.

[Anonymous No.18529618]

can't wait to hitchhike...

[Anonymous No.18529619]

>>18529551
I have learned a bit, but I realized that at the end of the day, unless you're a day trader, it seems to me there isn't much to analyze. Either you buy and hold stock in blue chip companies during a time of rising tides, or you lose your fucking money. That simple.

[Anonymous No.18529633]

>>18529574
well, things change
you can't just look back at the past and make all of your investment choices based on that
the history of investing is full of examples of companies that were very sure, very stable for decades, and eventually stagnated and declined.

>>18529616
still can't watch it
I already get a little concerned about ski lifts breaking during the middle of the day when I'm riding them, or if the chair or cable suddenly breaks. Spooky things, chairlifts.

[Anonymous No.18529643]

>>18529574
tl;dr:
>Airlines have a lot of negative public sentiment due to the buybacks they participated in.
>Most airline companies have huge debt issues.
>There will not be a pent up demand that is unleashed like a flood. People will be hesitant to travel. What they say and what they do are two very different things, and people will not forget about CV that easily, particularly with no treatments or vaccine on the table.

>>18529619
That's informed gambling. And yes, if you hold with long time horizons, you're going to be fine most likely. Airline companies aren't going anywhere, neither are oil companies. The difference is in your gains and how you can maximize them based on doing proper research into the companies you pick. This becomes much more important for small caps and startups, but even blue chips can be cyclical or have off years, and it pays to understand why so you re-allocate accordingly.

[Anonymous No.18529648]

>>18529604
I disagree with your prediction about airlines. Millennials love travel; I think the fate of airlines can be very positive depending on the final verdict on the chinese virus. By that I mean, will people eventually say the lockdown is stupid bullshit, or will they decide to permanently fear this virus. If the former, I see no reason airline travel won't reach its prior levels.

But maybe index funds are a good idea.

[Anonymous No.18529651]

>>18529574
The reason people don't like oil is that the companies have no pricing power, the saudis can fuck them in an instant, like they just did and are doing. Same with airlines, incredibly reliant on cyclical factors, like diseases. And with a massive recession looming, demand is gonna be low for oil and airlines both, for a while, this could mean 5 years before you see green on them. Are you willing to risk that? It took 6 years for american airlines to be green after 9/11. Bailouts can still destroy shareholder values, cancelling buybacks and diluting equity.

[Anonymous No.18529658]

>>18528655
Not sure if you're being ironic or not.
>>18528690
this

[Anonymous No.18529672]

>>18529643
>There will not be a pent up demand that is unleashed like a flood.
I think the first quarter of reopen and travel restriction lift will be quite good for airlines. You have to understand many people are very frustrated with this virus and will take the risk. That's why you see busy beaches instantly on reopen day.

[Anonymous No.18529676]

In all this excitement I forgot KDP pays out that divvy today. (well technically it'll be there Saturday).

[Anonymous No.18529677]

>>18528538
cloudfare specializes in captchas like the one you filled out to make your post. business is booming, I can honestly see every website on the net needing captcha technology even for basic browsing/reading articles.

[Anonymous No.18529683]

>>18529346
Will someone please tell me if this will make me rich or not?

[Anonymous No.18529687]

>>18529574
>I dont understand
Heres the run down

>Oil
Oil is bad right now. Like really bad, it was bad before corona and now its catastrophic. The reason that Suadi and Russia are dropping prices so low is specifically to bankrupt US oil shale companies. Energy companies are extremely leveraged and in debt in order to finance expensive drilling and pumping operations. They NEED oil to be at a certain price ($40+). Dropping below will cause them to become insolvent quickly, and these operations are expensive to restart once they are stopped. This is why stopping is a big deal. All these energy companies are going to go bankrupt very soon. Marathon was already on the cusp of bankruptcy. Exxon, one of the biggest US oil companies, will survive, but they will be crippled for years. Companies like Exxon have little to no growth or even negative growth potential, that is why they offer a high dividend.

>Airlines
Airlines aren't going to disappear, but that doesn't mean the stock will go back up. Just because they get a bailout doesn't mean they wont go bankrupt or restructure. In either case, you are likely to lose all the value of the stock when they issue new stock. Even if they manage to survive, they will not return to their previous highs for years and will probably not offer dividends. They are already decommissioning planes because its too expensive. There will be reduced flights for months, maybe years, and certainly not buying any new planes.

[Anonymous No.18529693]

Bears. When do you think the market will start going red? Monday?

I'm thinking this
>big boys tank futures Sunday
>market drops premarket
>bad earnings get released
>people think the markets are now bleeding because of bad earnings and get out too
>everyone starts selling as earnings get released during the week

?

[Anonymous No.18529712]

>>18529693
nothing happens until apple reports unfavorably end of the month. tech is the only thing buoying this house of cards.

[Anonymous No.18529722]

>>18529693
It won't, we missed. Game over. No shorts ever again.

[Anonymous No.18529730]

>>18529525
>>18529574
Oil is going to be shit for at least a year. It's not just the corona crisis tanking demand, it's the price war/overproduction = storage being almost full. Personally I think oil is good, but don't expect to post real gains for at least a year.
Don't go oil unless you're willing to long it.

[Anonymous No.18529733]

>>18529648
Listen to what >>18529604/>>18529651, particularly about the post 9/11 environment for the airline industry.

Index funds are typically a straight-forward answer for most people. That's why passive investing has been booming, although there has been some push-back against it recently on a more esoteric level. SPY, etc.

>>18529672
I was going to go to Tokyo for the Olympics, my dude. I would love to fucking travel, and I don't mind doing risky shit, but even I'm hesitant. I think what people say and what they do are two different things, and we only have to look back at history to see what results. That's psychologically speaking. Financially speaking, a lot of people are going to be catching up, and there are going to be a lot of people out of work. The demand itself will be lowered because of that. Discretionary spending as a whole will be lower.

>>18529693
Technicals say we could see a downturn any day, but who knows. A lot of people are just riding the high right now. I locked in profits and dipped out.

[Anonymous No.18529739]

>>18529380
>Coronavirus
>Immunity

oh, you haven't been following the spread of the several strain variants world wide that are all mutating?

[Anonymous No.18529740]

bros plz help me, i ate so much chinese food i think im going to puke

[Anonymous No.18529743]

How do you get a job at a morgue rn?

[Anonymous No.18529752]

>>18529733
what technicals indicate a drop any day?

[Anonymous No.18529753]

>>18529693
Every single day the house of cards is built high and could collapse any moment. We have circuit breakers this time but who knows what will happen. The only thing that is certain, we are definitely approaching a cliff.

[Anonymous No.18529759]

>>18529522
>https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1587120043193.webm
>Draco

What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.18529761]

Earning reports are a mixed bag. On the one hand it's a good thing cause you know if the company is on solid footing or going into the shit house soon. On the other for whatever reason bad earnings or good earnings, soon as the report comes out the stock will drop, which is kinda fucked up. I mean yeah if it's bad I could see it. But good?. Oh well, at least you can bag more shares cheaper.

[Anonymous No.18529771]

>>18529648
Not just the chinese virus, but the recession that is undoubtedly coming. Millennials are gonna be cash strapped for the next two years, conferences are cancelled, too many headwinds to say your buying at anywhere near bottom, definitely not certain enough to put 40% of your portfolio in.
Index funds are unironically the best investment vehicle for 90% of the population.

My portfolio, gonna be adding big once we see a retest of lows (inevitable imo):
BAM-asset manager, my top pick: renewables, private equity, utilities, real estate, they got it all.

NEE- Own FPL(florida power and light-government monopoly), incredibly solid, moving into renewables but that doesn't even matter to their business.

TDY-Industrials with huge knack for acquisitions and share price growth with buybacks

KTOS-Really nice defense play with MASSIVE potential with drone tech.

RTX-Aviation and defense play, new boeing. Pratt and whitney makes engines, large margins there I hear.

CVX- Oil, mandatory play, counter to my renewable esposure

TSLA (sub 400)-Meme and unironically in 20-30 years could be a massive company, plus elon does good with SpaceX and this is my way of giving back to him

[Anonymous No.18529778]

>>18529693
Unlimited money pumping. Markets won't go down anymore. Purchasing power however has been going down your whole life, and will accelerate more and more in the years to come. But the masses will bear it even as they curse it under their breath just like they did in the 70s, because they have no power to resist the elite agenda. You all know this is true

[Anonymous No.18529779]

>>18529759
He's Harry Potter's nemesis you dumb fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.18529780]

>>18529753
Dude the dow climbs a wall of worry every damn day

[Anonymous No.18529782]

>tfw only get investing advice from /biz/ and buy every meme stock in the book

I'm gonna make it aren't I?

[Anonymous No.18529800]

Banks are all up again after poor results and dropping. This market isn't allowed to fail.

[Anonymous No.18529801]

>>18529739
>mutating
>no immunity

You realize every single individual virus particle has unique RNA, right? Diversity and mutation are completely normal phenomena that CNN has shilled into scary words to get clicks. Even if permanent immunity is impossible (as with the common cold), a sort of rolling herd immunity is easily possible (as with the common cold). Not only possible, but indeed, the ONLY choice.

Not to mention, an effective virus is 1,000,000,000 times more likely to mutate into a LESS effective virus, due to the random nature of mutation. It's mutating 24/7 and so far, 100% of the mutations have clearly been failures because OG corona is still the main problem.

[Anonymous No.18529803]

>>18529779
>hurr durr you're stupid for not consuming children's stories and visual media

Reddit is leaking again.

[Anonymous No.18529808]

Got a couple questions anon?

For oil should I pull out of MPC and RDS.B for a small gain and reinvest that money into my existing tankers FRO or DHT? Are we even gonna hit critical mass if the US opens up the economy?

I also have a natural gas position in OKE is that safe?

Is defense stock safe to I got 30 shares of RTX at 60.

Will I make it if I intend to long these positions?

[Anonymous No.18529810]

Holding TSLA 800c over the weekend. How fucked am I?

[Anonymous No.18529812]

>>18529803
Hahahaha reddit am i rite guise

[Anonymous No.18529814]

>>18529753
Based house of cards poster. Earnings were not priced in for banks, quite possible this is the catalyst for next leg down.
>>18529771
Would enjoy criticism on my port, kept it to 7 so I can keep track on all of them, but I miss things often.

[Anonymous No.18529819]

>>18529771
Convince me to liquidate my Boeing stock to go all in on BAM. Mind you, I'm already holding 100 shares of MFA.

[Anonymous No.18529829]

>>18528676
Anon, it appears you have a call from a ...Jerome??

>”BBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR”

[Anonymous No.18529838]

>>18529814
You sound smart. What are your thoughts on Cloudflare and Brookfield?

[Anonymous No.18529839]

>>18529801
>Herd immunity
That meme worked well in the U.K., right?
If you want to be technical, yes every individual particle has unique RNA, but not so much that it changed the way the virus works. We're talking about actual mutation that can indeed make vaccines pointless, much like Influenza, which was my point. Keep spouting shit you no nothing about. Coronavirus also mutates at a steady rate, it doesn't mutate aggressively like other viruses do, which means it's more stable.
You were literally kiked into believing that the virus is a nothing burger when China's numbers are off the charts they had to damage control.

Retard alert.

[Anonymous No.18529853]

>>18529838
Sorry I am retarted, realized BAM is brookfield

[Anonymous No.18529856]

>>18529839
Faster mutating viruses have more room for error during the replication process, slower mutating viruses are MUCH more stable and longer lasting, as we can see. Learn a fucking thing or two about virology, faggot.

[Anonymous No.18529857]

>>18529780
>wall of worry
More like skating on thin ice.
Its gettin pretty thin.
The water's getting warm so you might as well swim
My world's on fire, how about yours?
That's the way I like it and I never get bored

[Anonymous No.18529868]

>>18529752
Volume, where that volume is flowing into or out of, its momentum/daily rate of change, price action trends, the current state of the bond market even with the current interest rate environment.

>>18529771
>>18529814
Have you considered VLO as an energy play and LHX as a defense play? I've got both VLO and CVX, and RTX and LHX in both categories and I have yet to make the decision. I might go with both in each. Also, TDY isn't going anywhere. Huge knack for acquisitions is still an understatement, and they also do defense if I'm not mistaken? Are they considered an industrial?

[Anonymous No.18529875]

>>18529839
The UK "tried" herd immunity for literally about 15 hours before pussing out. I am not going to explain myself a 4th time you fucking dipshit, refer to >>18529380, >>18529437, and >>18529487

[Anonymous No.18529879]

To be honest I'm actually a spy here from stocktwits.

[Anonymous No.18529880]

>>18529761
>. On the other for whatever reason bad earnings or good earnings, soon as the report comes out the stock will drop, which is kinda fucked up
That has happened to me before. No particularly steep run up leading in to earnings either. Company beats, guidance fine, sell off anyway.

[Anonymous No.18529883]

>>18529819
>MFA Financial, Inc. is a real estate investment trust primarily engaged in the business of investing, on a leveraged basis, in residential mortgage assets, including residential mortgage-backed securities and residential whole loans.

BAM is a completely different model, they run utilities, private equity with oaktree (great CEO Howard Marks), renewables (that cashflow) with acquisitions like TERP, and high end real estate, stuff that is always in demand. Also their CEO is a real beast. They beat the market because they don't play by the market's game, the bought a natty gas pipeline in brazil at a huge discount because they are the only players who can put up that kind of money, they're gonna do even better with the outflow of capital from emerging markets, they capitalize off a lack of competition, buying shipping ports, skyscrapers, less liquidity in a market means more of a chance to get an asset under market value.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmt1Li1Rnes
Great vid just for learning, shows the thinking behind the ticker.

[Anonymous No.18529886]

>>18529857
My world is actually pretty comfy rn

[Anonymous No.18529896]

>>18529875
>HER DER VEERUS TO CUNTAGIUS
>LOCKDOWN POINTLESS

The virus compromises your immune system, exhausting your body to the point that it can't even fight the infection that comes soon after, and if you do somehow manage to make it through medications and whatnot, your body can't fight off the virus from reinfection, effectively starting over the process as we can see happening in Korea.

Grasping for straws, kid.
You must be a Californian.

[Anonymous No.18529902]

What do you mean more money?
Jerome-Sama please be gentle.

[Anonymous No.18529905]

>>18529604
Based and insightfulpilled

[Anonymous No.18529910]

>>18529896
You forgot to append "For 1% of exclusively obese people" to your little horror story, happeningfaggot. Lockdown is a waste of time and a needless pain in everyone's ass.

[Anonymous No.18529917]

>>18529838
NET is on the watchlist, I really like the high margins and the focus on growth
https://craft.co/cloudflare/metrics
287m in revenue and they spent 159 on advertising and 90 million on R&D. You buy a company not cause they're doing great now, but because you think they will do better, NET has that. Only thing holding me back is I don't know much about tech, like to invest in things I can explain the business model of.

[Anonymous No.18529921]

>>18529910
Literally can't argue against the facts.

How about we continue to cardiac arrest for the healthy people because their body couldn't keep up with the virus?

Ahh yes, to be a retard again.

[Anonymous No.18529932]

>>18529875
And again you chose to ignore triage and health care workers.
The "1%" number refers to if everyone can have access to what they need once they get sick. The intubation number is several times more than that. Physical distancing measures are to prevent people who could survive if they just had ICU beds/ventilators/doctors for a week or more from having to be triaged with others for limited supplies. You go from the 1% number quoted in South Korea to the 3+% number in Italy.
Its about rate, not total, you ancap retard. There are also middle measures between "lockdown until vaccine bro" and "ITS JUST A FLU, GET HERD IMMUNITY BRO".

[Anonymous No.18529935]

I spent all my trumpbux on physical silver despite the market temptation. am I gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.18529946]

>>18529921
Source: your semen-filled anus

[Anonymous No.18529947]

>>18529883
But did I miss the dip? I don't want to be too late to cash in on those gains, anon.

[Anonymous No.18529956]

>>18529935
>i bought the biggest shitcoin in history
str8 to the top desu

[Anonymous No.18529978]

This is a liquidity driven bubble that has nothing to do with the economic catastrophe we are in. The problem with this bubble is that liquidity alone can't sustain a continued rise in stock prices. The FED liquidity can only work if the underlying stocks are generating earnings growth (organic or buyback driven). The problem for the market is that this same FED liquidity which is propping the market (for the time being) is also creating significant industrial excess capacity (zombie companies) and burdening corporate balance sheets with ever more debt. These conditions, amid a collapse in aggregate demand, are highly deflationary. A deflationary environment with debt heavy balance sheets is extremely toxic for equities. Hence comes the irony, the force that's driving equities higher today, namely the FED backstoppping all credit, is the force that holds the key to the market undoing.

[Anonymous No.18529982]

>>18529910
I dunno I'm enjoying it while I can. I'm getting paid my full salary from work to just sit on my ass from home. I still got a job to go back to. Gas is cheap as fuck. I'm saving money cause less fuel costs. I've gotten free money from the govt (which I hope a 2nd wave comes later), I'm getting a deduction on my auto insurance payments thanks to the virus so less money outta my pocket. Hell I'm even losing a bit of weight cause I'm eating out less (no work lunches). Its like I've retired early or some shit.

[Anonymous No.18529986]

>>18529947
We're about to enter a recession anon. There's no stopping that. The negative economic data is only going to compound from here on out, even if we do get positive reports regarding treatment development for COVID-19. It's likely that we may get a few larger sell-offs based on greed and profit taking, if there's some event that triggers them, but we may also be facing a prolonged down turn/grind to the bottom. It's likely you will have a lot more opportunities to buy. Do your DD, get your list ready, and enjoy the gains in a few years.

[Anonymous No.18530000]

>>18529868
I like to stick to the big boys on energy, valero seems like a valid play, but CVX has a ten percent divvy and is just as discounted. And they wanna keep that divvy going.

Shit man, LHX looks really fucking good, and they do space, fuck. Thanks for the suggestion, like the net income growth they've got. What's your take on it?

[Anonymous No.18530002]

>>18529978
Yeah that's how I feel. But we won't see the bad outcome of this for some time. When that time is I have no fucking idea because brrrrrr.

[Anonymous No.18530010]

>>18529946
>I'm a neon pink haired tranny that can't handle the facts
>I listen to New York, California, and Washington because they are shining examples of what our country should be
>Complete fucking retards

ok tranny.

[Anonymous No.18530011]

>>18529932
And you choose to ignore:

- Italy has a very old and fat population
- The actual number of infections is likely drastically higher than we even know of, given how contagious it is; Just that huge numbers of people are asymptomatic or nearly so
- The number of deaths is lower than what is being reported, because routine flus, pneumonia etc is being noted down as cornavirus
- TRIAGING WILL NOT SAVE ANYONE FROM JACK SHIT because if we don't get herd immunity, or rolling temporary immunity, the alternative is to literally stay locked down FOREVER.
- I don't give a fuck about boomers or fat diabetic retards, let them die

[Anonymous No.18530019]

This country lies about covid deaths so the economy doesn't crumble

[Anonymous No.18530023]

>>18529947
https://epdf.pub/bear-market-investing-strategies-wiley-trading.html

Read this book for some perspective, you don't get Vs when the underlying economy has gone to shit, and the "This time it's different" mentality has been wrong every single time in the past, maybe they're right now, but I doubt it. The dip will be coming, but don't get greedy, DCA when you think there is still way more downside to go, oftentimes you're wrong, markets bottom before the economy.

[Anonymous No.18530040]

>>18529487
I wish ceiling cat was still alive.

[Anonymous No.18530055]

As always, while good news is good, bad news is also good news as far as Stocks are concerned - China's GDP cratered 10% in Q1 - great news because now the Chinese Authorities will throw huge additional stimulus into the system - so good for Stocks. An expensive experimental drug has shown positive results - great news and the world is saved, so buy more stocks.

The Stock Market is a Forward-discounting mechanism, and is entirely conditioned by the Central Banks and the Monetary authorities to be always bullish and optimistic about the future, safe in the comfort that the Central Banks are already providing Multiple Trillions in stimulus measures, and will not hesitate to add more Multiple Trillions when needed to protect the Stock markets. despite hundreds of millions of real people being in lockdown worldwide and losing their livelihoods.

For an individual investor, there is nothing more frustrating than taking a defensive strategy based on solid fundamental factors and intelligent fact-based analysis, and then getting blown away by yet another tsunami of Central Bank liquidity.

That only leads to a search for reasons to prove that the "Market is wrong", when those reasons are openly present in plain sight.

So either one can stay out as a matter of "principle" and stop doing hypothetical daily Mark-to-markets on what "could" have been if one had only bought the Market at the bottom, or one needs to suspend all analysis and judgement and fundamentals and go along with the liquidity tide and with the Billionaire Hedge fund boys, trusting that the Central Banks will NEVER let the stock markets fail, whatever happens to the real economy and to the 99%. who make-up the real economy

Ultimately all this unprecedented market and monetary manipulation may very well end in a complete catastrophe, but it is nearly impossible to forecast the timing when this elaborate house of monetary cards tumbles down for good.

[Anonymous No.18530066]

>>18529288
I've heard this but I don't really understand how.

[Anonymous No.18530086]

>>18530066
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/restructuring.asp

[Anonymous No.18530105]

>>18530040
watchin u masturbate from heaven, bro

[Anonymous No.18530106]

>>18529868
LHX added to my watchlist
https://www.l3harris.com/documents/L3Harris-Investor-Briefing-Feb-04-20.pdf
good summary of their business.

[Anonymous No.18530159]

just buy oil CFD then hold for a year bro

[Anonymous No.18530193]

>>18530055
>This time it's gonna be different
We have no fucking clue how this is gonna work, but stimulus does not make an economy. DCAing takes care of it, but 12% down YTD on the SPX? With the world shut down for a quarter or more? With 22 million unemployed? The market is forward looking, exactly. The future holds uncertainty to a massive degree, emerging markets are fucked, the consumer is fucked, the bond market is fucked, oil is fucked, retail is fucked, the government's balance sheet is fucked. Each is a disaster on it's own, but together? This is not gonna be ATHs by april, earnings will come, companies will retract guidance and people will realise this is not a back to normal in summer. For the first time in 7 years we saw outflows of institutional money from the market. >https://twitter.com/elerianm/status/1250964725954777088?s=20

We saw CEOs resigning in droves, it may be different this time, or it might just be like every other time, we can admit, there was too much optimism in the market, buy anything and you make money, everyone is a genius! It gets flushed out, lets see who makes it to the other side, Institutions will, and that's why they pulled out their money.

[Anonymous No.18530194]

>>18530011
>Italy has a very old and fat population
Americans are younger but also unhealthier. The "comorbidity" factors that are the main result of age are more prevalentin americans because of smoking and obesity.
>The number of deaths is lower than what is being reported, because routine flus, pneumonia etc is being noted down as cornavirus
Do you actually understand how coronavirus kills people? It isn't the virus literally strangling the person to death. It is secondary opportunistic bacterial infections such as, you guessed it, pneumonia.
>TRIAGING WILL NOT SAVE ANYONE FROM JACK SHIT
I have 100 patients that will die if they don't get an ICU bed and other medical supplies/attention. Of those 10 will likely die anyway (https://www.uptodate.com/contents/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-critical-care-issues).). 90, however, will recover.
I have 10 beds and a patient needs a bed for ~ 1 week. So if we can keep the number of patients that need a bed to 10/week we will save 90, lose 10.
If we "herd immunity to save the DOW!" it, and we get 50/week. Then we will have to triage the incoming 50. 5 might die anyway so they won't get a bed (based on preexisting health problem severity). That leaves 45 patients that would survive among 10 beds. We will lose 35 patients we wouldn't have with the previous plan. So 70 + 10 = 80 dead instead of just 10. High patient load would also make it difficult to keep healthcare workers from being infected AS WELL AS possibly infecting other already sick patients in the hospital. Sick healthcare works might mean we can treat only 8/week and the numbers begin compounding.
"HERD IMMUNITY BRO" has nothing to do with rate issues you absolute ancap mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.18530212]

>>18528343
>>18528680
This. Just because a lot of people use the thing wrong doesn't mean it's inherently bad.

[Anonymous No.18530224]

>>18530086
>, depending on agreement by shareholders and creditors,
i clearly didn't read the whole page but guess it at least needs to have over 50% of the votes by shareholders to vaporize all shares? sounds crappy regardless

[Anonymous No.18530238]

>be amazon warehouse or retail store wagecuck
OR
>collect unemployment benefits for the next 6 months?
Hmm

[Anonymous No.18530255]

>>18529693
you not aware how markets work now

>big boys tank futures Sunday
>bullish, everyone buys
>market drops premarket
>bullish, even more people buy
>bad earnings get released
>extremely bullish, people sell their bonds to get back into market
>people think the markets are now bleeding because of bad earnings and buy 10x on leverage
>everyone starts buying as earnings get released during the week

[Anonymous No.18530266]

>>18530194
If you triage, you are merely spreading out the deaths over a longer timespan.

Herd immunity approach --> maybe 30% of the population gets infected before the virus starts having a real hell of a time spreading

Lockdown approach --> every single person on the planet will get the virus, one by one, every person will get their turn

More infections = more deaths. Herd immunity is the only way.

[Anonymous No.18530267]

Insider here.

ImmunoPrecise (IPA) announced a deal to partner with Janssens. For those not in the know, Janssens is the pharma arm of JNJ. IPA was one of the few companies, in collaboration with the W.H.O. to speed up the process of a vaccine against Covid19. The next week is going to be a steady increase in stock price. Get in now before you're chasing the ride up.

For extra spookyness, it's interesting that ImmunoPrecise has just hired Yasmina Noubia Abdiche, PhD who worked on the movie Pandemic and Distributed Bio. What a coupe.

Do what you want with this information.

[Anonymous No.18530277]

>>18530266
how are you this retarded? you will specifically reduce deaths from people that couldn't survive without a bed, who wouldn't have a bed if the deaths weren't spread out
QED

[Anonymous No.18530287]

>>18530267
>Collaborating with the Ethiopian nigger that loves small Chinese cock that got us here in the first place.

nothing burger.

>>18530266
Shut up tranny, learn your place, you were told off by several people already. If several people think you're a retard, you must be a retard.

[Anonymous No.18530289]

>>18530238
get a job, mom

>>18530194
I don't want to be too edgy, but those lives that you are saving are either 80-year-olds, or unhealthy (overweight, diabetic, smoker) 60-year-olds and 70-year-olds.
We're smashing up our own economy and trying to move heaven and earth to try and save the lives of people who have only a couple years to live anyway; if the China Virus doesn't take them this year, the flu or a heart attack will probably have them dead within the next few years.
Sure "saving lives" sounds really great, but everyone dies eventually.

[Anonymous No.18530293]

Listen up. The plan is we bull forever and virus is fix ok? We drink Cokes to celebrate and Mexico pays for it so we get the good ones in glass bottles.

[Anonymous No.18530301]

>>18528640
Bullshit. Things are going to be terrible come earnings time. Record number of bankruptcy. Retesting the bottom. Just have cash on hand to ride it back up

[Anonymous No.18530303]

>>18529380
Majority of murrikans are unhealthy so it isn't far fetched that it might wipe you people.

[Anonymous No.18530307]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PQtpc_5QHI

Fuck this is good

[Anonymous No.18530308]

>>18530267
I used to work for Janssen.

OP IS FULL OF SHIT BECAUSE HE'S CALLING IT "JANSSENS" LIKE A bixNOOB

[Anonymous No.18530312]

>>18530224
No, its way more complicated in a way I can't really explain, but there is basically a pyramid of debt holder. At the top are banks, then internal obligations, then various bond holders of different levels, then various stock holders of different levels (preferred vs ordinary). The stocks normally traded on the market are generally "ordinary shares" (why you might see the word ORD in them sometimes. Basically it means you get jack shit if the company goes under.

[Anonymous No.18530318]

>>18529169
I let that shit slide because the company matches what I put in

[Anonymous No.18530323]

>>18529619
>but I realized that at the end of the day, unless you're a day trader, it seems to me there isn't much to analyze
Couldn't be more wrong, proper fundamentals are fucking more work than TA.

[Anonymous No.18530330]

>>18530266
>If you triage, you are merely spreading out the deaths over a longer timespan.
You are so stupid its bewildering. Healthcare resources are not infinite. That is why triage even exists as a concept. And triaging always means "unnecessary" loss of life. This is a rate problem.
Herd immunity has LITERALLY nothing whatsoever to do with rate. It is the infectious disease end game when members of the population can develop an immunity to it. It does not exist as even a possibility for diseases such as Rabies.
It is not "herd immunity" vs. "lockdown". They aren't even competing ideas and they aren't addressing the same issue or variables. I can only guess you got fed ancap nonsense from /pol/
The real dichotomy is "lockdown" vs. "sequestered testing and tracking". The numbers got out of hand too fast for the second, which South Korea did.

[Anonymous No.18530342]

Are USO options worth it?

[Anonymous No.18530355]

>>18529437
>keymod
Absolutely disgusting

[Anonymous No.18530357]

>>18530323
Yeah. Can confirm. Good TA is almost automatic, you shouldn't be staring at a chart for 10 mins, you find support, resistance, trend, and trade. Fundamentals is writing a report on the stock. But you hold for much longer and make more gains for the work you put in.

[Anonymous No.18530378]

>>18530342
No, you will get fucked by contango and other futures fuckery, not a long term hold at all, especially not with options.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/081116/uso-good-way-invest-oil-uso.asp

[Anonymous No.18530380]

>>18530289
>I don't want to be too edgy, but those lives that you are saving are either 80-year-olds, or unhealthy (overweight, diabetic, smoker) 60-year-olds and 70-year-olds.
This feels like a market death cult philosophy. And the only way to prevent it from impacting healthcare workers themselves is if they just didn't treat them at all. There is something very dark about that. As if once you stop being able to work, you are expendable.
But that aside, the real mission once it got too hard to contain it, was to focus resources on testing for both the antibody and antigen as well as allocating resources to treat the sick. The fixation on a vaccine was a losing one from the very beginning and a waste of time. By the time it comes out in sufficient quantities it will be too late for it to have done anything.

[Anonymous No.18530421]

>>18530380
WHO said that antibody testing doesn't necessarily translate to testing for immunity, is that only the case if the antibodies are at a very low level? You a med guy?

Also thoughts on how likely it is that herd immunity becomes hard with larger asymptomatic spread as the virus has more chances to mutate into unrecognizable strains.

[Anonymous No.18530436]

>>18529437
>look at my ebin trigger discipline xDDD

[Anonymous No.18530439]

>>18530380
The retard doesn't even realize that a huge majority of medical professionals are of that age set. It's a retard being edgy. There is nothing beneficial from the mass death of older people, other than the happiness for one retard with a trauma past story they couldn't get over.

[Anonymous No.18530446]

>>18530267
dogshit
>t. actual medfag

[Anonymous No.18530448]

>>18529778
Nah massive civil unrest incoming. Even low info people were pissed about 2008. Once the dust settles on this time around and people realize middle class wealth has been plundered on huge scale, there will be hell to pay. This is the end game for this whole scam.

[Anonymous No.18530457]

>>18530194
Also you 100% do not work in medicine or if you do, you're not even a retarded RN kek.

[Anonymous No.18530476]

>>18529331
>Jacksonville mentioned
DUUUUUUUVAAAAAAL

[Anonymous No.18530481]

>>18530421
>Also thoughts on how likely it is that herd immunity becomes hard with larger asymptomatic spread as the virus has more chances to mutate into unrecognizable strains.
These are unknowns. Initial optimism is that it appears to be a "slow mutator" so the hope is that it becomes more like measles/chicken pox instead of the flu. That said there are already 6 or more coronaviruses identified in bats by themselves that have simply not undergone zoonosis. Bats and other mosquito eaters have strong immune systems because of all the shit mosquitos can carry so they can be carriers or incubators for a lot of nasty things. Respiratory viruses have been coming out of the Middle East and Asia for decades now, and it is inevitable that we are going to start experiencing some SARS or MERS, etc. breaking out of there.
>WHO said that antibody testing doesn't necessarily translate to testing for immunity, is that only the case if the antibodies are at a very low level?
Again more unknowns. If you want to know why vaccines can take a year+ to develop if at all this is part of the reason why. The other problem is how many charlatans are trying to capitalize on fear and social media disinformation like Gilead just pulled. Too much money now to be the big firm that finds THE thing that changes everything.
>You a med guy?
Bio/Physics education. Decided against med school. Have 6 friends as doctors though. Regardless of what happens, this has scared the SHIT out of the american healthcare system. There are probably going to be changes for more than a decade at least internally.

[Anonymous No.18530527]

stop using the word nigger so much you fucking racists

[Anonymous No.18530544]

>>18530527
Try and stop me nigger

[Anonymous No.18530549]

>>18530527
nigger

[Anonymous No.18530550]

>>18529759
It means an AK-47.

[Anonymous No.18530563]

>>18530481
Very interesting insight, you medfags need to contribute more, 99% of people (including me) have no fucking clue what's going on. Thoughts on reopening and testing?

I can't see this being a clean reopen, it's gonna have to be staggered or we're back to square one, even if we reopen, people are gonna be wary as fuck. Whenever someone coughs people give them the side eye. I'm thinking mid-may to june is when testing gets to a level where contact tracing gets to an adequate level. Social distancing is gonna be around through the summer it seems, at least at some level. This fall is gonna be interesting. There's just so many damn variables.

[Anonymous No.18530571]

>>18530549
brave and breathtaking
this post is everything

[Anonymous No.18530588]

>>18530527
i bet you're as good a judge of stocks as you are of skin col...eh...character

[Anonymous No.18530595]

lazy bred
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[Anonymous No.18530607]

>>18530527

[Anonymous No.18530623]

>>18529857
Hey now

[Anonymous No.18530699]

>>18530312
but it's an alternative to bankruptcy? so it'll basically never happen unless it would have gone bankrupt otherwise, in which case i'd not get anything anyay

>>18530595
it's the weekend so no need to make a new thread as soon as the bump limit is reached. can probably chill until at least 450 replies.

[Anonymous No.18530771]

>>18530699
No, it happens all the time to companies. Its a financial trick and stock holder get fucked every time.

[Anonymous No.18530800]

>>18528277
Take profits. Don’t bag hold. Best lesson I can tell you.

[Anonymous No.18530802]

>>18530267
Wow! That sounds exciting. How many shares should I buy?

[Anonymous No.18530827]

>>18530771
guess i need to find some youtube video or something that explains this "restructuring" thing to me in an easy way

[Anonymous No.18531256]

>>18529782
i like it.

[Anonymous No.18531534]

>>18528277
Take profit and reinvest. Greed is how you lose. Taking profits is how you win.