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>> No.18395717
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Threadly reminder that he bear bubble has burst.

>> No.18395728
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>>18395717
What’s your favorite card game?

Mine?
Single player:
Solitaire Poker 5x5
Canfield Solitaire

2player:
Gin Rummy
Cribbage
Casino
Spades
Whist
Durak

3player
(((Yaniv)))
13
Skat
Tonk

4 player
Spades
Hearts
Crazy 8’s (uno)
Spite and malice (Skip-Bo)
31 (Dimes)
All Fours
Oh Hell
Euchre
Bridge
Batak

5 player:
Sheepshead

>> No.18395730

>>18395705
This is now a /reddit/ thread

>> No.18395733

Jesus loves you. He died on the cross for your sins and then rose from the dead three days later, fulfilling the prophesy of Jonah. Repent for your sins and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ so that you can walk with him in Paradise. Peace be with you always.

>> No.18395735

serious question:
why isn't the stock market exchange automated to be available 24/7?

>> No.18395738
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Mexico sorted. >>18395718

>> No.18395741
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Why yes, I do have a list of my favourite missiles, right here. All of them are Raytheon products, why do you ask?

>> No.18395744
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>>18395721
BASED AND OILPILLED
>>18395721

>>18395721
BASED AND OILPILLED
>>18395721

>>18395721
BASED AND OILPILLED
>>18395721

>>18395721
BASED AND OILPILLED
>>18395721

>>18395721
BASED AND OILPILLED
>>18395721

>>18395721
BASED AND OILPILLED
>>18395721

>> No.18395774
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Current economic status:
>30% unemployment
>skipped credit card payments
>mortgage crisis 2.0
>small businesses going under
>businesses finding out you can't actually get those corona loans
>people can't afford rent
>there will be massive evictions in June
>even if lock down is lifted there are no jobs
>hiring people can take weeks or months
>many jobs are gone for good, which is why they were fired
>manufacturing is completely shut down, expensive to restart
>supply chains are still in samples
>airlines only flying essential routes, often empty, definitely not buying new planes
>restaurants are all dead
>casinos and hotels are all dead
>REITs getting margin called, no way to stop it
>all major construction projects halted indefinitely
>dividends slashed across the board
>oil is going to continue to nose dive in a death spiral
>US energy companies going bankrupt very soon
>China is still locked down and minimum manufacturing
>Second wave of corona guaranteed
>people running out of money and no job will cause desperation
>inflation only making things worse

>> No.18395776
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18395776

I am confused. Do I buy now?

>> No.18395781

Oil will moon on Friday right

>> No.18395788

>trump mentions business interruption insurance for pandemic
P&C GL/Property might get a nice chunk of losses.

>> No.18395790

>>18395728
always so many weirdos in the beginning of the these threads. op doing some weird bumping?
I'm not new I promise, just come back for every crisis

>> No.18395801

>>18395728
Irish Poker.
Close 2nd is Circle of Death, only because games rarely finish once everyone gets going.

>> No.18395808

>>18395774
stopped reading after the first > cuz u made the 30% up

>> No.18395817

>>18395735
Because trading stocks is historically the past time of landed gentry and industrial aristocracy. Doing business outside of business hours is uncouth, pleb.

>> No.18395822
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>>18395808
>Denial

>> No.18395832

>>18395822
16M is about 5%

>> No.18395836

>>18395776
Would you buy in January when the bubble was at its peak? It's not very different now the bubble wasn't allowed to pop everything is still too overvalued.

>> No.18395853

>>18395808
>>18395832
https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2020-03-23/fed-official-unemployment-could-hit-30-as-coronavirus-slams-economy
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-22/fed-s-bullard-says-u-s-jobless-rate-may-soar-to-30-in-2q
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html
And these were weeks ago. You are literally in denial.

>> No.18395859

>>18395822
That's like 5%.

>> No.18395871

>>18395853
>could
>may
>could
keep dreaming doomer

>> No.18395887

how do we fight against demonic warfare in our heads?

>> No.18395890

>>18395728
Hearts and rummy are fun. I played poker as a supplementary income for many years; small stakes table at feather casinos against chinese tourists mostly. Never liked online.

>> No.18395902

>>18395853
Some good doomporn. Does anyone genuinely believe the kung fu chinky flu jobs will disappear forever?

>> No.18395905
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>>18395859
>>18395871
>Doomer
Im not the one who made the guess, retard. Not like you give a shit when it happens. You'll be saying its a nothing burger until 100% unemployment.

>> No.18395911
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Back to work wagies!

>> No.18395917

>>18395905
so you admit you made the 30% up and can't provide any data to prove your claim?

>> No.18395920

>>18395905
>100% unemployment
Ok retard.

>> No.18395923

>>18395911
Fuck off Jeff.

>> No.18395935

Niggers guess what, I'm going to DCA my inverse S&P for as long as the GOV and the FED can keep the illusion alive. One day it's going to drop like a stone and boy! I will be a-laffin!

>I'd be day trading but I'm an essential worker

What you faggots think about that. Hah!

>> No.18395943
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>>18395887
Vigorous exercise. Nothing calms the brain better than endorphins followed by physical exhaustion followed by yummy food.

>> No.18395952
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>>18395902
Do you know how jobs work? They don't just instantly come back.

>>18395917
>>18395920
>its not 30% now so it can never be
>people whos job it is to measure it don't matter
>being an illiterate autist
Retards are very tiresome. Its like baby sitting.

>> No.18395967

>>18395952
so you do admit you made it up
good

>> No.18395969

>>18395952
Furloughed workers who are counted as unemployed will have their jobs come right back.

>> No.18395975
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What do you plan on buying after getting rich?

Pic related. I'm buying this gf.

>> No.18396011

>>18395975
An uglier version of that that I can trick out with gaudy plastic surgery. Fake tits, fake ass, vulva implants, lip injections. The works. I want some grotesque freak of a sex doll to show off like a custom hot rod.

>> No.18396015

>>18395902
When your small company has lost 2 months of revenue you aren't going to call back all your workers otherwise you won't be able to cover for the lost money. That's the point of the government printing 1/4th of the Gdp, doesn't mean the companies will play along.

>> No.18396023

>>18395975
Ok but don't hold overnight.

>> No.18396040

>>18395728
Spades is my all-time favorite. Used to play with the boys every Thursday night from like 8 to midnight. Good times.

>> No.18396042

>>18396015
see >>18395788 , but you're right, until confidence really comes back, there will be many people out of jobs.

>> No.18396048

>>18396023
Too much decay?

>> No.18396050

>>18396015
>you aren't going to call back all your workers
Oh. What am I going to do?

>> No.18396051

>>18395969
>Furloughed
Do people actually believe this? Its a soft firing. Only "important" people get furloughed.

>> No.18396052

>>18395975
More money.

>> No.18396054

>>18395911
Is he talking about the virus or the Jews?

>> No.18396056

>>18396042
confidence will be fully back in a month

>> No.18396078

>>18396056
If trump can muzzle the demoMSM doomporn, but those guys are banking on everything being shut for mail in votes.

>> No.18396079

>>18395975
Dio is cute as fuck. Good taste.

>> No.18396086

>>18396056
there's pent up demand, but we have no idea what happens after that.
>Trump mentions payroll tax hold & infrastructure for pt. 4
I'll have more confidence it if we have that passed.

>> No.18396098

>>18395943
Can confirm. I’ve been backcountry skiing almost everyday since the virus hit and I feel better than ever.

>> No.18396104

>>18396051
Basically this. If a company even kinda wanted you gone, now you are for sure not coming back.

>> No.18396108
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I have been a neet for more than 3 years, and only had 700$ ish to my name. I threw it all into stocks when this crash started and I now have more than 3000$ from throwing every thing I have into stupidly volatile REIT's over the past month. How are you faggots with so much starting capital not literal millionaires?

>> No.18396113

>>18396048
Too much volatility in that pusy.

>> No.18396115
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> pandemic curve flattening
> trump bucks still incoming
> bulk or market loss already occured
> clear rebound trend since April

Bears are cucks
I'm about to get rich

>> No.18396118

>>18395728
Single player: solitaire
Multi-player: Magic. It's been ages since I've bought some though.

Now I buy stocks instead of magic cards. Tap two KO to summon one RTX

>> No.18396126

>>18396050
Call back less of them so your expenses decrease until the 2 months of no sales are covered. If your revenue bounces right back that means you are good for May you still need to cover the months you had none.

>> No.18396131

>>18396051
Point is they are still counted in the numbers.

>> No.18396136
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Fuck it, they need to give Ackman a 2 hour special on Sunday so the market is actually at a realistic level come Monday. Jerome can't keep getting away with it.

>> No.18396141

>>18396108
I have enough to live off of for like 10 years even if I only make extremely conservative investments. I use like 5% to gamble with but losing my whole wad would fuck my shit up. Too scared if I’m being completely honest.

>> No.18396143

I hope we get the spy at least to 300 this week. I would make a lot of money. Relatively speaking.

>> No.18396157
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I bought RCL for 10% of the portfolio. Also bought (BA + DAL + ALK) for 5% of the portfolio.
Is it wise to buy NCLH for 10% of the portfolio and also CPA for 2%?
Will NCLH make x2 or x4 in the coming weeks? Or will it take years to wait?

>> No.18396162

>>18396108
The more money you move around, the more noise in the market you make. You make noise in the market and someone with a team of PhDs and a couple super computers is going to come and step on your dick. It’s called “moving the needle” and you didn’t even come close with your $3000 dollars.

>> No.18396167

>>18396141
I guess that's understandable. I took 1000$ off of my earnings and am just playing with the rest. Hopefully I get enough to move out and pay for an apartment for a few years in advance or something.

>> No.18396180

>>18395744
>based
the last time someone started speaking about lambos for a stock i owned it lost half it's value (SGMO). i ended up buying at the top and then waiting half a year to sell at the top for a small profit before the ultimate crash in december after ASH.

>> No.18396192

>>18396136
just watch this again to tide yourself over if you want your doomer fix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FItEjc6VtuU

>> No.18396202

>>18396108
Cause I threw my money into SPY puts and REIT puts, got fucked by the rally, made all of it back on a 1 day to expiry SPY put, didn't sell because I didn't want to take a good faith violation, hoped for a gap down to offset the theta from holding overnight and got fucked by a gap up and theta lol

>> No.18396207

>>18396118
i can't stand how jewish MTGA is so i just watch Day9 play it.

>> No.18396222
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>over 100k deaths
Bullish

>2 million cases by next Saturday
BULLISH

SPY 300 NEXT WEEK!

>> No.18396228

>>18396207
I keep a relentless rats deck around just to troll people who want to play.

>> No.18396242
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>>18396202
why deal with all of this shit instead of just betting on up or down with stocks?

>> No.18396247

>>18396108
Lots of gambles. People with a lot of money will usually post percentages instead of actual amount of money. Nothing fun to post in conservative investments.

See divviefren he gets paid every week and just uses the money to buy more stocks and that's it. There isn't much to keep memeing about.

>> No.18396257

>>18396167
I wish I had the balls to try to 2x or 3x my cash overnight but I mainly just buy and hold for the long term and day trade for an extra 2 or 3k a month. I’m basically a NEET who skis full time and I’m cool with living like a poorfag if it means I can keep doing it. I did sell all of my positions like six months ago just because I felt like there had to be a correction at some point so I got pretty lucky there. If the bluechips I’ve been buying up for cheap pay off I’ll be doing pretty well with almost no risk.

>> No.18396268

>>18396222
>21% deaths
god have mercy

>> No.18396289

>>18396228
honestly with my stock market gains i've considered just dumping like $500 into MTGA. i have a jeskai ascendency deck in paper from back in the khans days, but i haven't played in real life in ages and now with coronavirus i couldn't even if i wanted to. sorta the whole point of a game like MTG to me is to fuck around with as many different deck ideas as possible, but you need all of the (usable) cards to do that, a big collection. you can play for free but you can really only play like 2-3 meta decks and it takes so fucking long to get all of the cards for them while F2P, it sucks. you can be competitive but it's not a competitive game, in the sense that more often than not the winner is dictated by luck, not skill. but being creative with a strategy card game is an intensely fun experience, it's why i've looked into single player variants like Slay the Spire instead.

>> No.18396314

>>18396108
I sold the REIT calls I got last Friday for a 100% gain on Monday instead of waiting a couple more days for a 500% gain. I don't know why I thought the rally would only last a day I must be retarded. I was down at that point though so I wanted to take the money.

>> No.18396316

>>18396222
holy fucking trips batman, why is the death rate so high? is this real?

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>>18396268
Remember
>Just a flu
>Gone by April
>Back to normal by June
>New all time high July!

>> No.18396330

>>18396257
That sounds cozy anon. I've been a neet for so long. I used to work a shit job at walmart and was thinking about starting a hauling business with my truck & trailer but I broke my leg and have a titanium implant now so can't stand up for too long or lift heavy shit. I don't know if I qualify for bux but I never tried to apply.
I'm just hoping all this trading can sustain vidya games and maybe rent on an apartment in this cheap shithole.

>> No.18396345

>>18396314
I bought into MFA at 1.75 two weeks ago and was so tempted to sell at 2.38 yesterday but held off. I hope it does go 500% next week.

>> No.18396362

filling up right now for $1.65, thank you based Mexico
gonna get Taco Bell to celebrate

>> No.18396374

>>18395738
>oil bears will keep saying america won't cut production as well after this
It feels good not to lose money.

>> No.18396376

>>18396289
Khans days is when I got started. All my cards are valuable now and I only play limited, cube, and EDH.

>> No.18396387
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOL_DiTk8BY

>> No.18396404

WHOLE FUCKING TANK WAS UNDER $25 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUCK MY DICK SAUDI ARABIA

>> No.18396406

>>18396228
I still have my old cards: Red/Black vampire deck, blue/black discard/counter and green/white creature feature still ready to wreck shit. God knows what new spells and abilities are around now (not to mention new plainswalkers) but I'd still be able to hold my own.

>> No.18396418

>>18396387
>open link
>"the death numbers are...terrific"
>close tab

>> No.18396439

Makes me wonder whether MTG helped me get into finance. I always scalped new cards and sold them at GPs when they were hot.

>> No.18396441

>>18396242
Because betting on them to not go up or down is much better.

>> No.18396444
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>>18396404
Now I don't feel so bad filling up my 35 gallon tank 25 year old truck that gets 10mpg

>> No.18396453

I have 8k in Robinhood all in XOM and MGM. $20k in the bank. Should I pull out $10k from the bank and throw it in more stocks or is it safer in the bank right now

>> No.18396458

>>18396439
Interesting thought. I'd do the same, or at least swap the more easily had rares for ones of more value

>> No.18396467

>>18396126
>Call back less of them
So you agree that the jobs will come back. You just disagree with how fast.

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>>18396222
>SPY 300 NEXT WEEK!

YES SPY 300 then fall too 200 the week after. slaughtering bull and bear alike.

>> No.18396486

>>18396453
1 switch brokers
2 get a Roth IRA
3 have cash in your trading account but don't buy until shit really hits the fan. If that never happens then you already have $8k in to catch the upside. If that $8k goes to $6k you can buy in with your $10k and be better off than if you put more in now

>> No.18396487

>>18395705
>Mexico pussies out and cuts production
Oh baby gonna be a green Monday. Feel the BRRRRRRRR my bros

>> No.18396499

>>18396316
>holy fucking trips batman, why is the death rate so high? is this real?
If you only test people you know are sick, you can inflate the death rate to 100%

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So when is the bottom gonna fall out of the casual dining sector? I'm eyeballing puts on a few big names. Regardless of Jerome, shit doesn't look good.

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>>18396330
I know neet self improvement is a meme but I would really suggest trying to find a physical hobby that you like and want to do a few times a week. I became a neet because I wanted to ski and rock climb but if I wasn’t doing those things my life would be pretty shit. I play a decent amount of vidya and watch anime pretty much everyday but if I wasn't skiing I wouldn’t even be able to fully enjoy the neet life. I know everyone is different and it might make it harder with your leg but this is just a suggestion from somebody in a similar situation. I believe in you anon, I know you’ll make it.

>> No.18396522

>>18396486
I keep my dry powder in bond etfs.

>> No.18396547

so when is the crash coming?

>> No.18396554

>>18396522
Probably smarter than straight cash. Fed printing press makes me nervous about having cash. But how do you realistically hedge vs hyperinflation on the world's strongest currency?

>> No.18396571

>>18396547
Monday, because i bought in yesterday

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>mfw i didn't take any consideration of risk management
>mfw i'm down from 19k to 4k holding puts

>> No.18396579

>>18396554

Debt... lolz. Or just stay in equities. Maybe this bull run is thanks to all the people who don't want to be in cash under any circumstances right now.

>> No.18396582

>>18396547
In a few more years probably if the US doesn't start another war. Jerome must raise the rates at some point.

>> No.18396583

>>18396487
>cuts production
>essentially 0.5% of what is needed.

>> No.18396588

Thanks to /biz/ I despise women.
Somehow this happened on /biz/. Not fit, not b, not pol but just on biz.
Weird

>> No.18396610

>>18396547
That's the million dollar question

Depending on what Jerome does he can keep this bubble propped up indefinitely

>> No.18396630

>>18396517
What do you suggest? I live innawoods with lots of land to sprawl out on and a very active dog (border collie) who already runs me ragged. I shoot my guns at targets sometimes for fun.

>> No.18396633
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Here's a new stock I learned about today. You may have heard of Twilio (TWLO), which was a very hot stock last year. The company I work for uses a service with comparable offerings, called Bandwidth. I didn't realize this until today, but Bandwidth is also a public company (BAND). If I had bought the stock when I first started working with their service, I would have had a three-bagger. One interesting point of comparison is that Bandwidth, at least according the Yahoo page, unlike Twilio, actually has positive earnings at this point even if it is trading at a 726 P/E ratio. The market cap is less than 1/7th compared to Twilio, so on top of growing this market, there could be room for them to take market share from Twilio. That said, I'm not familiar enough with Twilio to say whether either has a competitive advantage in any particular area. Twilio is definitely trendier and the top dog for now.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BAND/

>> No.18396647

>>18396547
1 year

>> No.18396662

>>18396554
Stay as deep into equities as you can. I hate having tons of cash just sitting. I’ll bust out margin before I liquidate my bond positions.

Also, real estate is a fantastic hedge against inflation.

>> No.18396664

>>18396588
focusing your energy into growing your wealth changes the way you think and your overall perspective on things.

>> No.18396688

>>18396547
Under the principle that the market only crashes when people aren't expecting it, maybe next week is a good time for things to start trending down again (whether or not it "crashes" or just bleeds out). We've had enough green days now that people are starting to second guess whether further declines are coming or whether the bottom is already in. All I know is I'm not going to be selling my SDOW stock. I'm investing for the long term. In the meantime, I'm just going to hold and re-invest the dividends in cheaper shares.

>> No.18396700

Trump just scalped Jim on PPE. BVLLISH Monday

>> No.18396704

>>18396662
>hedge against inflation
debt is another great tool.

>> No.18396726

>>18396704
Yeah that’s what I was hinting at with real estate. Mortgages are tits for capitalizing on high inflation.

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Is it stupid to buy a large position of a 1x inverse ETF like SH once we actually do recover, just as a hedge against an unforeseen turnaround or will it slowly dwindle to 0?

>> No.18396751

>>18396633
>726 P/E
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.18396760

>>18396735
Sell covered calls instead

>> No.18396764

>>18396726
when do you think is the time to pounce? I think staying with good credit for the year and a half is likely the best and then that 20% cut to real estate prices should show up. I wasn't watching the 2007-2009 market, do you have a sense?

>> No.18396778

>>18396764
In the 2008 crash, the real bottom was found in 2009. However every single metric has been record-breaking in the current market so who knows what the fuck's about to happen.

>> No.18396779

>>18396522
>bond etfs
>1% yield and 8 years average duration
Why?

>> No.18396797

>>18396664
It really really does.
Fuck those leeches.

>> No.18396798

>>18396108
REITs and service industry companies are the only two things Jerome can’t save. Take your retarded gambling winnings and invest them elsewhere you worthless moron.

>> No.18396810

>I have a big decision coming up
lol he's going to extend the lockdown isn't he?

>> No.18396821

>>18396547
September

>> No.18396824

>>18396810
>biggest decision of my life
Ultimately, governor's decision

>> No.18396831

>>18396257
I wish I could learn to day trade

>> No.18396836

>>18396797
it also teaches you what a scam both day jobs as well as the government are. i find it hard to consider working for $10/hr when the government can just print trillions out of thin air, or you have the forex market alone where trillions of dollars change hands literally every single day. you can turn 70k into 1.5 million and no one gives a fuck. completely warps your sense of reality, but in a good way, because this is how it really is and you really want to be part of the investor class in this world, in this day and age. any effort made to get there is worthwhile no matter how long it takes.

>> No.18396840

>>18396778
i remember... i thought it was closer to 2010 when he tweeted this
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/187244458688004096

>> No.18396850

>>18396831
go to livetraders on youtube and watch all of their stuff about day trading.

>> No.18396855

>>18396751
Right, that's high, but compare it to other "tech" stocks. Think of some hot names? What's the PE ratio of Uber, for instance? Or compared to their main competitor, what's the PE ration for Twilio? Merely have positive earnings puts Bandwidth ahead of many other such companies in that regard. On the other hand, when if you think that a stock is a "growth stock," it's re-investing whatever it has to rapidly expand the business, and it's expected that it's not going to have earnings left over. This would be a little before my time following stocks, but I strongly suspect that the big tech giants like Amazon and Google went many years before having positive earnings as well. The strategy for investing in these kinds of growth stocks is to project what the future earnings will be as a result of their (hopefully) rapid growth, and to base the current fair value on that.

>> No.18396858

>>18396779
Just as good as cash in most circumstances and bond etfs tend to spike during a market crash, which is when I’d want to liquidate the position for dip buying.

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>>18396810
No way in hell. He’s going to urge lifting the lockdown end of April.

200k dead is nothing to Trump, winning in November is everything to Trump.

>> No.18396862

>>18396798
I already know they are tanking, the one I've been doing most of my trading on, MFA, got a shitload of margin calls and is in forbearance right now and probably won't survive much longer. I am not going to stay long in REIT's.

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>>18396439
Bruh Ikoria is ridiculous

>> No.18396875

>>18396831
just wish I wasn't that much of a pussy

>> No.18396894
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>>18396858
Are you serious? During very bad crisis all correlations go to 1.

>> No.18396895

>>18396855
Lol'd.
MSFT is 29
AMZN is 89
FB is 27
GOOG is 25
And your company is a no-name.

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>>18396894
That include corporate bonds too?

>> No.18396915

>>18396875
Yeah see I dont give a fuck about my capital I have many other accounts and investments but this trading account I made and funded I dont give a fuck about but i havent made any trades yet because 1. I dont trust this current bull rally and 2. I have no idea where to put it right now.

>> No.18396936

>>18396912
yes, a sizable portion too. It's scary. the target retirement 401(k) funds at vanguard have a lot of hidden risk and double exposure

>> No.18396938
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>G20 ENERGY MINISTERS DID NOT DISCUSS 'NUMBERS' - CANADA'S NATURAL RESOURCES MINISTER

kek

>> No.18396943

Will gasoline prices stay cheap or go up?

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>>18396861
Yep. Advise lifting of lockdowns or continue same as current. That'll be the choice.

>> No.18396976

I think I’ll just buy solid dividend shares and check my portfolio once a year.

>> No.18396977

>>18396949
>advises lift
We're probably locked down until June then.
I've got some business with FINRA and the Institutes. I might get updates a day or two earlier than others.

>> No.18396982

>>18396943
Up for a bit on the international agreement to trim production. If demand does not trend up in timely fashion the prices will slump again.

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>>18396912
Yeah if you zoom out enough it seems that nothing ever drops...

>> No.18397025

>>18396976
Dividends are your fren but premium is your lover as an income investor. Don’t leave money on the table.

>> No.18397029

lets say i have 200 shares of something, can i write a put and a call, collect premium from both sides, and be relatively neutral even if it breaks one way?

>> No.18397037

>>18396662
>Real estate is a fantastic hedge against inflation.
Okay but I have $10k in my Roth IRA I'm working with. Best way to invest in real estate besides buying property straight up? Are REIT's worth bothering with? I bought into the $NRZ hype and have 500 shares but I've read that this stock is a "binary bet on survival" where if the gov doesn't bail them out they're fucked. An anon was claiming that someone from NRZ was laid off and he leaked they are declaring bankruptcy. What do

>> No.18397040

>>18397029
no

>> No.18397079

>>18396760
>Sell covered calls instead
Covered calls offer no downside protection at all they are equivalent to naked selling naked puts would you also recommend those? For insurance buying far OTM index puts or buying VIX calls is best I think

>> No.18397085

I spent all my money on oil stocks. I'm not sure it might be right, but i have feelings that it gonna go up.

>> No.18397086

>>18397029
You could sell 2 calls when the stock is at a high point and then buy the 2 calls you wrote when the stock is at a low point and profit from difference in premium. But most of the time you're better off just selling weekly calls and collecting free premiums on contracts which will expire worthless unless there is a 20% increase in a week

>> No.18397089

>>18397029
Infinite money hack discovered - how did nobody think of this?!

>> No.18397098

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52249963
>Coronavirus: Covid-19 outbreak 'levelling off in US'
Bullish.

I hope you got your cheapies, the only was is up now.

>> No.18397109

>>18397098
Buy the rumor sell the news incoming

>> No.18397132

Options bros: what about straddles? All good unless the crab keeps going sideways

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>>18396895
BAND isn't my company and I don't own any BAND stock. What your post isn't taking into account is that those stocks didn't just start trading today. Yes, Amazon has may have a current PE ratio of "only" 89, but they have traded at much higher price to earnings ratios in the past. According to this chart, since 2011, Amazon has generally been trading at triple-digit PE, if not quadruple-digit, PE ratios until relatively recently (latter part of 2018), and in certain years (periods from 2012-2013 and 2014-2015) was had negative earnings.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/pe-ratio

If a stock trades at 276 times earnings, you might say, "it'll take me 276 years to make my original investment back!" But that assumes that the company will undergo minimal growth over the coming years. If you think that the company will be growing significantly over the coming years, then the fact that the stock price is 276x the prior year's earning is really not a very significant measure of value.

>> No.18397136

>>18397079
If your strike price is above your cost basis, there is no downside.

>> No.18397156

>>18397037
>>Real estate is a fantastic hedge against inflation.
only works if you take out a huge loan, that gets less and less worth over time. but whatever you buy need to pay for interest though.

>> No.18397166

>>18397017
Don’t know what you are trying to illustrate here. The range of movement on T bond etfs is small and it tends to spike during market downturns like I said. Look at the y axis.

>> No.18397170

>>18396289
My bf and I play slay the spire. I'm on low ascendancy's for all the characters and having fun, he's almost at 20 on all of them and still loves it. Highly recommend it, I'm a bit of a magic fag too.

>> No.18397193

KR is going to fucking kill next earnings

>> No.18397198

anybody playing with iron condors daily here ? volatility still makes sense on SPY, what are your spreads ?

>> No.18397203

>>18397079
With covered calls, the call premium is downside protection, even if it's a very small protection. If you sell a covered call on your stock at a premium of 1% of the current price and the stock goes to $0, you lost a net 99% of the stocks value. Without the call premium, you would have lost 100%.

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18397219

>>18397193
>Buying KR instead of IMKTA

lmao

>> No.18397235

>>18397037
>>18397037
The whole point of investing in physical real estate is to use a mortgage. Mortgages are literally the best form of leverage that normal jack offs can get. If you just want to use straight cash, REITs are better.

>> No.18397236

>>18397219
I've never heard of this store, do they go for the black demographic?

>> No.18397256

>>18397219
this place cost more than whole foods near me

>> No.18397275

>>18397203
have you tried not buying stock in companies that could realistically go to $0

not being an idiot is good downside protection

>> No.18397292

>>18396976
>the date is April 10
>the year is 2021
>anon has walked 12 miles to get to the nearest computer terminal
>begins peddling on the stationary bike to generate enough electricity to turn the terminal on
>ARRRRR ERRRRRR *SCRATCH* RRRRRRRRRRRRR
>”omg it’s actually connecting!”
>www.schwab.com
>portfolio balance: $0.00

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>TFW missed the dips in Mondalez, Kraft Heinz, Kellogg's, General Mills, Fresh Del Monte, B&G Foods, Conagra Brands, Nestle, McDonalds, and Wendy's

Is there any hope left in becoming a food chad? I've managed to build large positions in Pepsi and Coke, and modest positions in Campbell's Soups, Costco. and Tyson's.

>>18395085
>you think I'm developing scarred lungs without noticing it?
That is what has been reported, yes.

>> No.18397305

>>18397170
like i said, strategy card games are about creativity to me. i got to like ascendancy 5 before giving up, i generally only play on ascendancy 1 now. all you really want is more elites to make the game more fun with potentially more relics, everything else is just artificial difficulty unfortunately. i like stuff like in Hades where you can choose how to make the game harder with the pact of punishment and they do things like actually give the bosses new abilities instead of the lazy "okay it's the same game but now they have twice as much health and do twice as much damage to you" garbage. the main problem with that stuff is that it limits the choices you can make and get away with, at the highest artificial difficulties only the best of the best decks can be successful so you're stuck just playing and losing until you get the right combination of cards usually.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ien97HT7Wpk

vaccines are massive business and not only us pharma, chinese pharma companies want to sell them badly too as drug sales are down

>> No.18397327

>>18397293
>That is what has been reported, yes.
Sauce, or do I just cite "anonymous internet hate forum"?

>> No.18397328

>>18397170
gay

>> No.18397336

>>18397132
Volatility setups like that are a good choice during spastic market times, sure.

>> No.18397343

>>18395705
There cannot be peace when kikes and niggers and chinks inhabit this planet. I’ll kill you all.

>> No.18397348

>>18397079
>>18397203
You can also use a stop loss on your stock as downside protection, you could even make your stop loss the purchase price less the premium on the calls you sold so you would literally lose zero money outside of the price wiggle from a stop loss market sale. Your logic assumes that after you sell one weekly covered call, the price will tank. What if it stays flat or increasing marginally for 5 weeks and then crashed? You now have the premium from 5 weeks worth of selling covered calls extending your downside protection. Can adjust stop loss such that you realize how ever many premiums you want out of the 5 sets.

>> No.18397356

>>18397293
why would you be a foodchad instead of a bankjew

oh right american banks are unstable messes, look at them and laugh

t. canadian who has literally nothing else left to be proud of

>> No.18397365

>>18397098
this is terrible news. soon the economy won't have a virus to explain why its doing so poorly.

>> No.18397392

>>18397098
It's already 50% of the way there. There were never really any cheapies. We touched 4 years ago for like 15 minutes.

>> No.18397393

>>18397166
No, there is a red candle on march 12 then green candles that retrace the loss then it keeps going down and recovers, the sp500 does exactly the same pattern, it's been 15 years that stocks and bonds go the same way.

>> No.18397426

Newmont Goldcorp to the moon

>> No.18397445

>>18397236
No, not especially. They're a pretty standard-fare grocery store. Ingles is just smaller than KR. They're headquartered in Asheville, NC and only are in the nearby states. Going on anecdotal experience, if any grocery chain correlates with the presence of high black population density, it's probably Bi-Lo (a subsidiary of Southeastern Grocers, which also owns Winn-Dixie).

>>18397256
That's surprising to me, but I don't ever shop at Whole Foods (due both to its inconvenient location and the fact that I won't buy from Jeff Bezos where I can reasonably avoid it). The nearby Ingles generally has the lowest prices on the things I actually buy compared to the other major local grocery chains (like Publix). I have noticed though that prices can vary quite a bit between different locations. For instance at one point the nearest Ingles had milk prices somewhere near $2, but I stopped at a different location one day and saw milk prices that were more like $3.50. Aldi probably has the lowest produce prices, but I refuse to patronize that garbage dump of a store.

>> No.18397468

>>18396630
You might be good then. Really as long as you feel good I wouldn't worry about it. I just know a lot of city neets are essentially shut ins. It does help me to have something that requires some discipline though.

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>>18397079
>they are equivalent to naked selling naked puts
Huh? How do you figure?

>>18397219
>Ingles
>Engels market
nice try commie fuck

>>18397327
>do I just cite "anonymous internet hate forum"?
kekked

Here's some stuff from the lancet, I'm not 100% sure how to interpret it when they say "asymptomatic patients with COVID-19 pneumonia."
> The evolution of the disease on CT is not well understood. Shi and colleagues reported the presence of unilateral ground-glass opacities in a subgroup of 15 asymptomatic patients with COVID-19 pneumonia, substantiating previous anecdotal reports that asymptomatic patients could have CT changes before symptom onset. This finding suggests that CT is a sensitive modality with which to detect COVID-19 pneumonia, even in asymptomatic individuals, and could be considered as a screening tool—together with RT-PCR—when a patient has significant travel history or has had close contact with an infected individual. Furthermore, CT might be a particularly important screening tool in the small proportion of patients who have false-negative RT-PCR results. Shi and colleagues also showed that the lesions that were present in asymptomatic individuals progressed to bilateral diffuse disease with consolidation at around the first to second week after symptom onset.9

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30134-1/fulltext

>> No.18397475

>>18397275
That example was intended to demonstrate the worst-case scenario.

>> No.18397482

>>18395733
Thank you blessed 33 poster.
Happy Easter.

>> No.18397489

>>18397393
SPY did not do the same pattern. GOVT was already rebounding and trending up on Mar 23 which was as bottom as you could get for SPY

>> No.18397491

>>18395705
Ok guys. Will the upcoming week be red or green?

>> No.18397527

>>18395832
>>18395859
It's actually way more than 5% because the headline is based on new jobless claims, and is not an actual estimate of the number of unemployed ppl right now

>> No.18397534

>>18397491
Green...? We're having non stop gap ups. Even the crabbiest crab only made the worst day this week -0.1% and the news can only get better comparatively.

>> No.18397538

>>18397475
Sure, but it's not that realistic imho. Good stocks don't just randomly go to 0 overnight. I will stick a cactus up my ass if RTX ever goes to zero.

>> No.18397544

oilbros, anyone else hold before the market closed for the weekend? are the chances of it plummeting low when it opens back up?

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>>18397365
>t. eternal pessimist

>>18397356
>canadian
>bankjew
do you even have jews in canada?
I would ask who does your taxes, but I doubt any country besides the US has the retarded tax lobby that makes shit so complicated.

In any case, I'm still fairly confident the US banks will outpreform the canadian banks, especially now that the feds are buying the debt from them that they are afraid will become toxic. And after 2008 no one wants to let another lehman bros happen.

Another canada anon was telling me just the other day to short the fuck out of canadian financials, that they're not as strong as people think and that the mortgage debt and oil debt they hold is going to explode in their faces.

How are the oil fields and tar sands of canada doing? What's unemployment in Alberta like?

>> No.18397573

>>18397292
>permabears are the fucking stupidest
Did you invest in bullets and food?
What use will fiat money have when you dont even have electricity?

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>>18396157
I've been selling puts on NCLH the past 3 weeks, never got assigned but wish I did.
Made 6k though

>> No.18397588

>>18397546
Alberta is absolutely fuk, but our banks survived 2008 without skipping a beat. TD used it as an opportunity to buy a bunch of US assets, that's why TD is a thing in the states. BMO has paid divvies for 200 straight years. Our banking system is Swiss tier stable, at least for the big four.

>> No.18397596

>>18397544
there is not even a deal yet. off course it can plummet

>> No.18397635

>>18395733
Te diligit Jesus. Pro peccatis tuis in cruce mortuus est, et resurrexit de mortuis tres post dies, implens verba Jonae prophetae. Fac paenitentiam propter peccata tua et crede in Dominum Iesum Christum, ut in Paradisio ambules cum eo. Pax sit semper tecum.

>> No.18397650

>>18397544
i have puts on brent now, strike 30 , expiration june

>> No.18397657

>>18395728
dominion is #1 card game
Euchre is also great

>> No.18397669

I just transferred "a random walk down wall street" to my huawei pad and I am going offline.
I am tired of this daily brainwashing. Thots, marketing ploys, degeneracy, muh virus emergency and all that bullcrap.
I want to leave at least until the markets open again.

>> No.18397743

is it worth anything to go for divvies as a small time investor?

>> No.18397746

>>18397544
I'm holding GUSH with a stop loss at 25. Hopefully it goes up but I'm not holding my breath. Personally I think that a market crash is imminent. We don't have an economy to build up on and seeing how volatile Starbuck's stock was at their 50% earnings warning. Combined with this being earnings season, I think that people will panic again and the market will fall. Remember that in every single market crash we have people saying "but this time it's different". Human emotion isn't different, however. Dividends are probably getting cut from blue chip companies, over leveraged companies won't be able to make payments and will fail, earnings will drop and people will get scared that this isn't over with.

The resistance we saw last Friday, combined with the low volume, in terms of growth tells me that little people trust the market right now and it's like a lot will try to cut their profits. Since we don't know when that is, I'm decreasing my investments by half until I reach about 1000 dollars to predict daily behavior with options. But thats it.


Any bulls disagree with me? I'm usually pretty bullish myself but I'm getting more skittish.

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How will this whole situation not turn into an uncontrollable hyperinflationary spiral?

The free money is obviously priced is. Same for the high unemployment. But what about 9 months down the line? Nobody can tell and the whole market acts like it's just a dip to get in cheap.

>> No.18397759

>>18397743
Gsk gets you a dollar per share. Ford is good as long as they don't go belly up

>> No.18397798

>>18397759
what are the odds of ford flopping?

>> No.18397799

>>18397751
the US dollar and stock market are backed by the strength of the US military. no one will fuck with that. you can't cry about the US being world police for so long and then as soon as the military actually has a significant impact on the situation at hand, act like it doesn't matter. we have the best military in the world for a reason.

>> No.18397802

>>18397445
Neat. I live in Virginia but haven't seen it before, all Kroger here. Why are they better than Kroger?

>> No.18397807

>>18397759
Ford has no dividend according to TD Ameritrade

>> No.18397809

>>18397798
low, but you could get shafted in the way GE fucked over shareholders. the bonds are the better bet imo.

>> No.18397824

>>18397798
In this economy? I'm gonna guess 80%. Their cars are shit in my opinion and they've been decreasing in value for the past ten or so years.

>> No.18397823

>>18397809
GM, not GE - my bad.

>> No.18397836

>>18397751
It won't because everybody else uses the dollar as reserve currency so you can think it like if the dollar tries to inflate everyone else will mess with their currencies so it doesn't.

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>>18397807

>> No.18397845

>>18397392
some oil stocks have been as cheap as they were 17 years ago in march

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>>18397843
I mean yeah I see that article.
But this is what the summary page is telling me.
An Ex-dividend date but no pay date. no annual dividend yield

>> No.18397888

>>18397845
The oil crisis is real and unprintable. It's also not done yet so the risk is much bigger that some will go bust.

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>dump 5k into NIO
>be millionaire in 10 years

It's really that easy, why haven't you yet?

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>>18397751
>How will this whole situation not turn into an uncontrollable hyperinflationary spiral?
Turn off the money printers and that wouldn't necessarily happen. Austria stopped its hyperinflation in the early 20s when their leaders listened to Mises and people like him, Weimar Germany didn't fare so well. Central banks would NEVER let this happen though, they have one job, one tool, and they'll keep pumping till it's too late. Remember, they see themselves as heroes who've been saving the global economy for over a century.

>> No.18397988

>>18397956
>chinkshit
why

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>>18397956

>> No.18398019

>>18397544
I'm holding FRO for when land storage dries up and they need to store the oil offshore on tankers. i sold MRO and OXY already and am not holding any other oil stocks

i have a 20$/sh limit order open on RDS.B if it ever drops that low

>> No.18398025

I hope yov're ready for the most BVLLISH BVLL rvn of ALL time on Monday. Remember, bears, yov too can still profit off of this. Jvst repeat this mantra:

BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!

>> No.18398029

>trying to move my company 401k to TD Ameritrade
>they actually want me to FAX in documents
What year is it again

>> No.18398037

>>18398025
why are you replacing U with V?
Do you have brain problems?

>> No.18398041

>>18397956
this girl would get posted somewhere, can't remember, but she only dates niggers and it made me really upset when I learned this.

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>>18398037
another anon used to post a lot about the GOLDEN KABALLAH BVLL
Some newfags started seething over it, and since then it had become a meme that really triggers newfags like (you)

>> No.18398086

>>18398019
>land storage space dries up
When do you think that is going to happen?

>> No.18398089

>>18398025
filtered

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18398098

happy eater weekend to my golden bulls. Get the golden Egg

>> No.18398109

>>18397824
Ford sells all of its best shit outside the US.

>> No.18398110

>>18398086
another month or two

>> No.18398125

>>18398086
Analysts say it's definitely happening by july regardless of any other event.

>> No.18398130

>>18398025
It's going to be amazing when it gets pumped back to ATH and everyone still has their money sitting on the side, in cash or bonds. They won't even be able to go back in even if they sold near top without a huge spike and chaos. We'll see some of that next week as we approach 70% retracement.

>> No.18398133

>>18398037
V is for V shaped recovery.

>> No.18398137

>>18396011
blessed good friday dubs

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>>18395728
Euchre and Sheepshead

>> No.18398151
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>>18398138
posting rtxchad memes so I can move them from my pc to my phone

>> No.18398156

>>18398110
>>18398125
it's a safe bet regardless?

>> No.18398160

Guys if a company:
> current dividend yield is higher than the average
>p/e is over 25
> p/b is above 3%
>has above 70% debt
>payout ratio is higher then 75%
> 2% growth

Then is it worth investing?

>> No.18398185

Is ET going to fuck me because it does (((distributions))) instead of dividends?

>> No.18398195

>>18398156
In my opinion, even if there really is a second bottom, tankers, pipelines and other oil storage and transport will still gain. I see no plausible scenario under which they could possibly go bankrupt in the current environment, and I would even go so far as to consider the risk level associated with such companies as being one grade lower than usual.

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>>18397802
Ingles only has one store in Virginia. Why are they better than Kroger? I'm not going to say that they are better than KR or not. I just think that considered in itself it's a decent prospect, and I like owning stocks in companies that I personally deal with. Ingles is also less than 1/30th of Kroger's size by market cap and I like buying stock in smaller companies where reasonable to do so.

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Ready for monday bear girls and boys? If not, you have 3 days to loosen up.
>3 days of uninterrupted FED printing followed by the biggest green bulldick on monday you will ever see

>> No.18398213

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5F9vPFphmQ&feature=youtu.be&t=5940
>"and you just heard dr. han reflect on the fact that, very soon, we will have an antibody test. that americans will be able to take to determine whether they ever had the coronavirus"

YES FINALLY WHEN CAN I GET THIS SO I KNOW IF THAT "WORST FLU OF MY FUCKING LIFE" I HAD BACK IN THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY WAS CORONACHAN OR NOT?

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>>18398160
The debt would keep me from investing.

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>>18398208
>RTX to $70 on Monday

>> No.18398224

>>18398160
what meme stock is this
please say Tesla

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Gap up and green Monday then anons?

>> No.18398241

Depending on life style choices and what all happens to you over your working life hell you can get by on 100,000 a year with ease. That's over 8,000 a month. Me, hell, I don't even blow 2000 a month as it is. Just saying, sometimes people overdo the whole "retirement amount" thing.

>> No.18398243

>>18398224
>tesla
>p/e
you need positive earnings to have a p/e ratio

>> No.18398244

>>18398160
For dividend, I recommend either looking at cash flow vs dividend payables or gross profit vs the same, based on if it's an acquisition-heavy company or not. Acquisitions may turn cash flow negative but isn't usually a risk factor on the dividend yield. However, if it's not a company that acquire a lot, free cash flow is a better measure of their ability to maintain or even increase dividend yield.
Other good metrics are stock price and dividend yield growths.
From the numbers you mention, I would say this is pretty risky, but what do you meany by 'higher than the average'? If it's 20% MRQ I wouldn't touch it. If it's 10% I might consider it upon further investigation. The debt rate is pretty bad and the payout ratio is on the high side but still viable in both cases.

>> No.18398259

It's all over bobos the mumus are taking the wheel now

>> No.18398282

leafbros
what should I do with my USD?

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>>18398282
buy RTX

>> No.18398300

>>18398282
Invest it in US stocks to generate even more USD. This way when CAD is worth 0.00000001 USD, you'll be able to buy a blowjob from trudeau for a fraction of a penny.

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>>18398222
Hell yea brother

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Is Webull any good?

>> No.18398322

I'm going to be so disgustingly rich next week when oil starts dumping on monday.

>> No.18398324

>>18398306
better than webear lmao

>> No.18398365

Is it probable or improbable that Halliburton goes under?

>> No.18398370

>>18398300
wont usd tank even harder though?

>> No.18398383

>>18398156
i'm not all in on oil tankers, but i believe it's a safe bet for the next 3 months at least for a small percentage of your total $. if there is a 2nd dip, i will simply DCA and buy more FRO and maybe one other top oil STORAGE/TRANSPORT stock if i can find it.

notice how it's only oil storage and transport; no producers / shale and the like. honestly I dont like pipelines that arent near the water either because it costs money to transport over hundreds of miles of land. so i want water-based oil storage basically.

FRO
TNK
DHT
shit like that

>> No.18398400
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18398400

Why should l buy RTX right now?

>> No.18398408

>>18398282
buy gold

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is he right?

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>>18398400
because they have solid financials, they're underpriced, and I make dank memes

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For me RTX is not just another stock. Some people just go "hey if I make money great, if I don't oh well" Which is fine and to be honest that's the right way to go about it. But for me, losing money on the deal was never an option cause I need all the money I can get. Long story short; I'm 36, didn't save as much as I should've during my 20's/early 30s. So now my retirement plan is kinda lacking. RTX is a way to correct that mistake and give my retirement plan a big kick in the ass. Sure I've got a pension and a 401 and now a brokerage,etc. Both the pension and 401 are doing rather well, but still. It don't mater how good the investments are doing if your still behind as it were. All the retirement people tell you this; "by age 40 your on track for a nice retirement if you have double your salary in the bank (or invested)" Thanks to RTX I'll hit that mark about 4 years sooner.

Yes it may dip but tank? Hell no. The party as they say is just getting started. There's still more good news in the wings. Space Force approval for one, a Spinoff for another. Even if a Spinoff don't take place for a while, so what? The stock price will climb all throughout the year due to demand and missile profit out the ass. There's a shit load of countries in the world who can now place their orders. Add Canada and the rest of the world to that and well, to say this current price is "cheap" is putting it very mildly.

It would not be a surprise if Big Elon knocks very loud on RTX's door over the weekend/all next week. With a very nice deal in place before Christmas. They know the time to buy RTX is before they can get the ball rolling. Cause the longer RTX goes it alone the higher that stock price will climb and thus the more Green Bags Big Elon would have to fork out.

At any rate, the hard part is over with. Now those who're in RTX can kick back and relax a bit. Really the only thing you gotta concern yourself with is just what the hell your gonna do with your Fat Wads

>> No.18398430

>>18398370
Virtually impossible because of its backing.

>> No.18398431

>>18398410
big green line confirmed.
My holdings are getting rekt monday. fuck.

>> No.18398433

>>18398419
>Elon buying RTX
I like SpaceX but you're off by several orders of magnitude

>> No.18398438

>>18398419
>For me RTX

stopped reading there. nice future copypasta tho bro

>> No.18398440

>>18398400
Because we are going to war with Venezuela soon so might as well buy in before the Tomahawk bombardments are priced in.

>> No.18398441

>>18398419
is this pasta cuz if you made this up just now that's pretty good

>> No.18398443

>>18398438
>future copypasta
it's a stale pasta he added rtx spice to

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>>18398438
>future
>not knowing the origin

>> No.18398461

>>18398443
honestly considering it's the guy who won't shut up about RTX over and over im not surprised, like i said i didn't read it lol. i see RTX and i just skip the post because it's the same shilling.

>> No.18398470

>RTXtards
just buy a fund retards. stop buying and holding individual stocks for no other reason other than "i might get a 5% gain on my 1000 bux!!!"

>> No.18398471

>>18397843
just google ford div and you see its kill

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I don't get it, what's wrong with RTX?
It pays a decent dividend and it trends up despite dips.

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>>18398476
Everyone who shills against RTX is a Russian trying to weaken our ballistic missile defenses (which are almost entirely made by Raytheon)

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here's a tumtum

>newfags identified and filtered.

>>18398461
do you not even use ID's? I haven't said a damn thing about them until right now.

Goddamned newfags.

For me, it's LMT.

>> No.18398490

hes not buying FAS.

explain yourself.

>> No.18398498

>>18398306
Definitely a way to get the message across.

>> No.18398511

>>18398491
We're gonna need more chief.

>> No.18398528

>>18398470
this general would be incredibly boring if everyone just sat on SPY forever

>> No.18398531

>>18398491
LMT looks good, its 20 year is up despite dips.
This 1 year look lets me know I pretty much missed the biggest dip it was going to have.
A bit too rich for me in all honesty

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Help me /smg/, I made massive gains this past week and now I'm hooked. I'm practically suicidal that I couldn't play more today. What can I do in the meantime to stop me from killing myself now that I have found a profitable outlet for my depression?

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>>18398531
forgot picture for LMT

>> No.18398551

>>18398491
All defense stocks are connected desu. RTX is a major contractor for LMT, Lockmart makes the F-35 while RTX makes the engines and missiles for it. And they all go down is a dove is elected, and they all go up if a hawk is elected. It's basically picking your favorite horse in a race where every horse wins.

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>>18395774
It's priced in.

>> No.18398559

>>18398511
nz/folder/fSwDzSIB#8yt_Auq1W3XKMB-BH9ht2Q/folder/qHxCzSjY

>> No.18398564

>>18398528
general turned to shit anyway when we started getting neets who can't do anything but buy cheap stocks because their bank/broker won't allow them derivatives
then they rave on about buying shitty stocks like rtx or food brands thinking they can outperform funds

>> No.18398569

>>18398490
no anon, you have FAS, not FAS shares
god you're dense

>> No.18398571

>>18398564
>shitty stocks like rtx
retard detected, post discarded

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>>18398564
>RTX
>shitty
lmao

>> No.18398587

>>18395728
my favorite game is 3d chest me vs me

>> No.18398589

>>18398537
Do what i'm doing and get some research done on what to try for next week.

>>18398528
SPY again.
You guys mention all these stocks that are hundreds of dollars per share.
I have to ask, just how many shares do you all really have in something like SPY?

>>18398551
When was the last american dove president?

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>RTX

>> No.18398613

>>18398589
>I have to ask, just how many shares do you all really have in something like SPY?
I don't have any indexes right now because I don't trust them. In the long run and in bull markets I agree they're a good way to diversify. But right now with the market being fucky I don't want stake in companies I haven't read the financials for.

>> No.18398615

>>18398041
Georgia ellenwood. Yeah she dated a black football player who made it to the nfl. He then dumped her for a black girl and she deleted every picture of him.

>> No.18398619

>trump sees how popular trumpbux is
>extends lockdown until after the election while pumping out more and more trumpbux for everybody
>just fucking pays companies to be around so it looks like everything is working
100% landslide in November.

>> No.18398629

>>18398615
toll paid

>> No.18398631

>>18398615
>burn the ____
>pay the ___

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>>18398589
>When was the last american dove president?
Probably Carter?
Though Obama tried to scale down Cheney's wild wars for sand, and then had to deploy a surge in troops. Still, didn't increase the budget like a true hawk would have.

>>18398564
/smg/ has been big on foodstocks for years...
where have you been? Yes, we buy individual stocks.

I used to give a big explanation of what people should do, buying funds, allocating a bit to gold to hedge, waiting for dips, my own reasons for buying Berkshire Hathaway, etc.

But I'm just so sick of spelling it out for newfags.

We got bored of telling everyone
VTSAX
STACK
IT
UP

>> No.18398636

Do any of you guys have any natural gas plays besides the living meme that is CHK?

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>>18398098

>> No.18398649

what happens to shares of a stock in a company if they get bought out?

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Let us compare: Him - 5.2% yield @52 w high & 2.08 a year (0.52 x 4). A typical shit bank - 0.15% a month (1.8% a year). Him - Divvy hikes like clockwork. Shit bank - ???. Him - Cheap share price, low cost to enter. Shit bank - Fees, withdrawal limits,etc. Him - Will be there for you over the long decades ahead. Shit bank - May get taken over, employee turnover,etc. The choice is obvious; don't delay and be saved starting on Monday!

>> No.18398662

>>18398635
Do we think that defense drone companies like KTOS, AVAV will do fine even under "Dove" presidents like Obama, who although didn't deploy troops used drones as if they were troops.

>> No.18398663

>>18398649
Well for CVA they went up during a the beginning of the dip and I made a cool 900 dollars off of them one morning.

>> No.18398679

>>18398636
I only trade leveraged futures tracking ETFs for natty.

>> No.18398683

>>18397635
Okay, now this anon is BASED.

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>>18398662
Earnings wise, all defense contractors should do fine under any president (now that warren and sanders are impossible instead of just improbable)

Defense contractors STOCKS may suffer under a president seen as less hawkish, because of perceptions more than reality.

>> No.18398718

>>18398649
It depends on the terms of the deal. If you hold through the closing date of the deal, you may receive shares in the acquiring company in exchange for your shares of the company acquired (to your benefit) or cash. Alternately the share price of the company being acquired may shoot up to the offering price, at which point you can sell immediately for that profit. There is usually several months between the announcement of the deal and the closing date so you have time to decide how you want to play it.

>> No.18398748

>>18396547

End of Q2

>> No.18398749

>>18398419
best meme

>> No.18398753

>>18398679
Why tho is natty just a shitshow or are you an ETF oriented investor? Because I have a natty stock that I don't know what to do with as I was hopping it was going to go back to january levels.

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>>18398491
>>18398635
>>18398712
LOL! They just never learn, do they?

>> No.18398771

So you guys got anything that pays dividends monthly?
QYLD does, but anything else?
Most everything else is quarterly and I'm trying to diversify a bit more.

>> No.18398774

>>18398753
It's really volatile and I don't need the added complication of seeing whether a natural gas company's stock tracks with the spike or dip in gas prices.

>> No.18398793

>>18398757
Sex work is legitimate work so those pictures are safe for work.
What you want to report is advertisement or theft/piracy.

>> No.18398802

>>18398774
Would you say that the volatility is worse than oil? I'm holding OKE because I though it was a bargain getting it at 23 bucks.

>> No.18398808

>>18398589
>When was the last american dove president?

Clinton.

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>>18398757
In case anyone here is unaware, blue boards (those on the 4channel.org domain) are to be considered SFW. This is clearly stated in the rules, which this website's terms use website dictate should be studied by all users before posting. This is a board for discussing business and finance. No one wants to see your disgusting "lewds."

>> No.18398823

>>18398802
It's similar, sometimes more volatile. Natty moves on stuff like long range weather forecasts in addition to all the thing affecting oil prices.

>> No.18398828

>>18398824
>>18398824
new
>>18398824
>>18398824

>> No.18398846

>>18398757
>>18398817
It is getting to be annoying. Glad theyre getting the boot finally.

>> No.18398866

>>18395969
>Furloughed workers who are counted as unemployed
Lmao since when!? If I was furloughed with no work Id be pist. No pay and cant get unemployment either. Why would I go back to work once they want me to come work? Id just take advantage to keep my beneifits and quit once its over

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>>18398410
>Corona is the first rider.
The name gives it away. A plague that conquers.
>War next.
A red sword should be an easy give away as to tell you who will take part.
>Then the merchant on a black horse bringing hyperinflation so the bread costs too much on the scales.
People expect famine but in truth there will be plenty of bread and plenty of dollars but it is the valuing of the scales that will be broken.
>Then along comes the rider called death... or perhaps rebirth.
Ash and fire to clear the old for new growth. Everything in the universe that still exists does so as part of a repeating cycle or otherwise would have long since stopped existing. This includes human culture and civilization.
>the only way is forward

>> No.18399064

>>18396912
god FUCK the fed. they are ruining the next 50 years of America which is my entire adulthood. I don't want to be Japan

>> No.18399152

>>18397365

This is real big brain shit. Anon knows.

>> No.18399228

>>18399064
Its going to be worse than Japan when my generation assumes power (23 years old) because we are going to wreck the economy with our policies.

>> No.18399464

>>18396141
This except I only have enough for 2 years. Even gambling 1 years worth scares me. Ironically I gambled a decent chunk last year and lost a bunch. Had i done it in Feb I'd have likely made a years wage. Or had done my risky maneuvers I couldve over doubled my money.

>> No.18399608

>>18397575
>6k
How far out were those sell puts and how many of them did you sell?

>> No.18399648 [DELETED] 

>>18397751
>whole market acts like it's just a dip to get in cheap.
Imagine all the people buying right niw end up losing big. Eg stocks drop 90% from current values and many go bankrupt. Right now too many seem to think they can profit off of it rather than being afraid of it going lower which makes me suspect stocks haven't instilled enough fear in their recent downtrend.