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Can anyone explain how the rest of the world would respond to USD hyperinflation? If we're printing shitloads of money and the rest of the 1st world economies are too, doesn't it just cancel out inflation? How would China theoretically counteract this?

>> No.18385598

a lot of emerging world dept is denominated in dollars. Also a lot of trades are settled in dollars. If you aren't strong on the USD you have to have a preferred currency. The euro is the closest competitor and its trash. Don't fucking start on gold or btc

>> No.18385616

>>18385598
he really wants to get sodomized by that man

>> No.18385617

>>18385598
yea but is that merely based on the perception that we are the least corrupt country with strong rule of law, sound institutions, etc? I don't see why other economic blocs of countries couldn't decide that our fundamentals are fucked and drop us for something else.

>> No.18385625

>>18385598
imagine being dumb

>> No.18385644

>>18385565
Will hyperinflation make forex trading better or worse

>> No.18385652

>>18385565
but the rest of the world way more corrupt and prints more than the US in order to prop up their export economy, especially china. so the USD will continue to be the reserve currency.
Only lolbertarians have this irrational fear of USD inflation because these whiners have never dealt with the govt. in a 3rd world country.

>> No.18385658

>>18385565
when everyone loses faith in the value of the dollar
it's basically based on economy strength, the war machine and petro dollar

>> No.18385668

That’s an old webm. At least 4 or 5 years old by now.

>> No.18385670

>>18385598
¥CNY soon

>> No.18385678

>>18385617
all of the 3rd world use it as reserve, as US power starts dwindling, something else will slowly take its place
probably china's digital currency in a couple of decades

>> No.18385745

>>18385565
Probably won't be dropped until the U.S falls. That won't happen because everyone falls with the U.S. Enjoy your global economy goyim.

>> No.18385821

>>18385565
The fact that the US is printing at the same time other centeral banks are printing does not mean that things priced in those currencies will not experience nominal price inflation, or nominal hyper-price inflation.

As far as the rest of the world's response, USD hyperinflation would lead to a global economic collapse as the world's reserves in the form of T-Bills become worthless - and leave space for a new world-reserve currency.

>> No.18385872

>>18385821
>leave space for a new world-reserve currency
I can only see china filling the void, sadly. Its clear that people will bury their head in the sand over morals/ethics if it means they'll be enriched.

>> No.18385901

>>18385565
this girl was 16 when this was taken. yikes

>> No.18385918

>>18385565
I saw this gif years and years ago and thought she was hot. Now that I am /fit/ and have pumped and dumped my way through a few dozen women, I realize, her ass is actually really mediocre.

>> No.18385922

Bump for interest and counterpoints

>> No.18385975

>>18385901
if you wouldn't cream that cooter you're a faggot

>> No.18386020

>>18385821
>fact that the US is printing at the same time other centeral banks are printing does not mean that things priced in those currencies will not experience nominal price inflation, or nominal hyper-price inflation.

This makes zero sense. If everybody was experiencing inflation, then there is no inflation.

For example I sell food for $1 to Europe and they sell me oil for $1. If we both print more money so we can buy food for $2 and oil for $2, there is no inflation effect. It has canceled out.

>> No.18386033

>>18385975
Too skinny imo

>> No.18386121

>>18385872
How is China going to fill that void?

>> No.18386171
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Why hasn't anyone said PetroDollar I thought u tards knew shit about money

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>>18385565
the usd dollar is the only fiat back by something; OPEC oil

this backing is dependent on the us military.
China launching yuan oil futures redeemable in gold is the biggest attack on the USA since the 1970s oil embargos

>> No.18386184

>>18385918
post body

>> No.18386196

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.18386214

Because Trump and his fed kikes just proved that modern money theory is right. All that matters is that you have the biggest stick to protect your hamster wheel.

>> No.18386231

>>18385918
post penis

>> No.18386340

>>18385617
>Based on perception that we are the least corrupt country with strong rule of law, sound institutions, etc
Yes, foreign financial ministers and multinational companies base their monetary choices on perceptions like how much of a good person the average American is, God bless the USA.

No, they base what currency to use on stability for the most part, which is based on things like how levered are the country's banks, what is their central bank doing, is it printing shitloads of money like it is now, and if so is there a contracting economy and demand for dollars overseas to counteract this inflationary printing?
Also nations and big companies have to look at liquidity and the "credit rating" per se of the currency
If it's fiat like all the national currencies are nowadays then they have to see whether the nation's GDP can handle the interest on the nation's debt that its govt has accumulated
This is the almighty Debt to GDP ratio that the smarter of the libertarians will whinge about

Also in some cases the us military will go around and free the shit out of any country that is severely being a hindrance to its economic interests, the govt will put on sanctions and the CIA might stage coups but that is getting more into conspiracy territory, whereas it's plain for anyone to look up that the US makes most of the oil companies in the middle east settle in dollars

>> No.18386370

>>18386184
i have on /fit/
>>18386231
i have on /biz/, this year in fact (jk tho jannies)

>> No.18386379

>>18385565
>doesn't it just cancel out inflation?
You are unironically the most retarded person I've read today.

>> No.18386411

>>18386379
im retarded. can you explain why his theory is wrong?

if the dollar becomes hyperinflated wouldnt that only be a problem if theres a viable alternative? is the Chinese Yuan really a viable alternative? The western world will not want China to run the global economy.

>> No.18386422

>>18385565
ꝥs a man

>> No.18386461

>>18385617
>>18385565
Iraq war and Lybia war both started over someone trying to dump the petrodollar.

>> No.18386569

>>18386411
US dollar is the legal tender in the US, all goods and services are priced in USD. The total amount of goods and services produced is Y (best case scenario it's constant, which it isn't because of an oncoming recession). Let's call Z the total amount of monetary units in the economy. For simplification purposes Y=5 and Z=10. with 10 m.u. you can buy 5 products, each product costs 2 m.u. If Z goes up and Y stays constant, you'll need more m.u. to buy the same amount of products (that's the definition of inflation) (e.g. Z=15, now each product costs 3 instead of 2). So no, all the banks printing money won't have a "cancellation effect" on inflation, that's retarded.

>> No.18386658

>>18385565
IMAGINE THE SMELL OF HIS ASS

>> No.18386665

>>18386411
Hyperinflation means fixed incomes and debts go to zero, aka money becomes meaningless. It becomes impossible to financially plan for the future. The ability to invest and efficiently allocate capital grinds to a halt. People buy commodities to preserve wealth. This happens even if all currencies hyperinflate. This is why gold is an effective currency of last resort.

>> No.18386687

>>18386569
What you overlook here is that by increasing the money supply you increase liquidity, which by definition makes them more profitable, thereby increasing the Y/Z ratio as a factor of Z

>> No.18386699

>>18386020
Lets say EUR/USD is 1 and the supply/demand for Oil is constant.
Lets say also that Oil in 2020 is 50 USD and 50 EUR
Hyperinflation happens - but EUR and USD are still 1:1.
Has the intrinsic value of oil changed? no.
instead of $50 it's now 500 USD, and 500 EUR.

Are you going to notice that hyperinflation has occurred? Maybe, if your income does not hyperinflate with the currency. (it won't)

>> No.18386791

>>18386699
>Maybe, if your income does not hyperinflate with the currency. (it won't)
That's a good point. When I think of hyperinflation I tend to think of some African country with a barrel full of worthless money in their local currency.

It begs the question can hyperinflation be more specific? The assets overvalued being only what the Feds are playing with.

>> No.18386841

>>18386687
Dude, kys, don't try to talk about shit you don't know. It's plain and simple, if money is printed for artificial liquidity, intrinsic value of goods is still the same, but you have to put on more monetary units to acquire them.

>> No.18386851

>>18386791
Yeah, inflation and deflation can be compartmentalized.
For instance, for the past 20 years, financial assets in the financial economy (which is separate from the real economy in which we live/participate in) have been experiencing price inflation as a direct result of the federal reserve's /participation/ in the markets and slightly more specifically but not limited to its manipulation of interest rates.

How else does the federal reserve print hundreds of billions out of nothing, while our prices in the real economy don't go crazy? That, and the US exports a LOT of its inflation through the sale of T-Bills, Euro-Dollar and USD denominated debt.

>> No.18386853

>>18386841
Nope, because intrinsic value of goods naturally deflates over time

>> No.18386866

>>18386791
That's the point, they're not playing a lot with rates, they're betting on QE. Honestly don't know what's going to happen but there is going to be 100% blood on the street before the dust settles.

>> No.18386875

That is my sister. Stop fucking resposting this video

>> No.18386897

>>18386841
>>18386853
https://atom.singularity2050.com/4-the-overlooked-economics-of-technology.html

>> No.18386916

>>18386853
A given good gets devalued (not deflated with) in time, not goods in general. Inflation is normal, around 2%, beyond that, there's something wrong.

>> No.18386924

>>18385872
No

>> No.18386945

>>18386916
Inflation is not normal given a fixed money supply. We inflate it because that's the best tool to prevent recessions.

>> No.18387053
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All those trillions will stay in some bank account or tangled up in the markets, not being spent until years down the road when the financial instruments reach maturity or someone tries to retire then we'll finally see inflation.

>> No.18387112

>>18386945
>We inflate it because that's the best tool to prevent recessions.

We inflate it because our entire economy is built on a mountain of debt and everyone relies on just in time payments to avoid defaulting. Even the fucking massive cities rely on just-in-time deliveries of food and supplies because there's maybe 1 weeks' worth of shit at any given time. And yeah, whenever anything happens that causes a hiccup in things it all comes undone.

I really just wanted it all to crash. Fuck this globo-homo system, the usury, the mass migration and replacement. Fuck it all.

>> No.18387131

>>18385565
>Guide: How to be attractive as a woman
>Don't be fat

>> No.18387140

>>18387053
Yeah, good thing the money isn't being used to provide money directly to americans, which may or may not continue for months - or we would otherwise be worried about real-economy price inflation in the future.

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China and Russia are gonna save us

>> No.18387188

>>18387112
JIT is a LEAN manufacturing method popularized in the late 90s or something in Japan, my dude. There's nothing wrong with JIT other than the centralization of supply chians in juristdictuies we may not have control over, which introduces higher counterparty risk.

If you remove anything about inflation from your post you're correct lol.
Inflation is a tool used by central banks to implement and maintain modern monetary theory. Its used to prevent deflation, because in a deflationary scenario the central bank can fall into a situation in which nothing it does can rescue an economy.

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>>18385565
>>18385644
>>18385652
>>18385658
>>18385745
>>18385821
>>18385901
>>18385918
>>18386177
This is why:

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_moneymisterymagick01.htm

The dollar is literally created using occult/black magic. It can't be beat. People aren't seeing what is ahead. The past 20 years have been shit for the US. It's being reversed. America is the new Atlantis and will be a utopia with no more than 500 million people. The US is literally becoming the NWO global super power. However, the same magic was used to create what will be the NWO global currency: BSV.

>> No.18387234

>>18386851
>>18386866
We have to accept also that the Fed can't print their way out of a recession. The boom and bust cycle has to happen.

>> No.18387275

New fag here..aside from upcoming ridicule I could use some information...what does it mean exactly when you're orders open? And should I cancel it sooner than later

>> No.18387495

>>18385565
we all live in a lie or suggested imagination, too many jews in a show biz created nonsense in society that for smart intelligence people will be obvious but they forced to follow dumb crowds.
there is no space! We do not live on imaginary ball spinning 100 mph <-- that is what Jewish fraternity do to our brains - lie.
There is no virus medically, but corona swindle still flying around, Pornography cost money to shoot and spreads totally free of charge because it destroy people. Do you know that Israel show free porn to Palestine people ?

This picture with over sexualized girl degraded human being is shown to you, by jew shill that does not love you at all but hate you and approach you with swear words and slang's try to make repeat, that slang, that impairs your ability to think clearly.
Money is a tool of usury , means of enslavement. and you ask why people do not drop it? Greed and fear ....

We need to get together in a circles of equals
and then every single grabber and 'fish head' became transparent with their activities .
How dear you talk bad about 6 million holocaust deniers, that was prosecuted by jew gang for disturbing lie meme?
get together in to social close responsibility in the front of everyone that's how jew can not do
any thing. Get gun men together make own depressions cooperate with police sheriff ( new one, old suppose to be hanged in public place)
Rule of the people is apply by popular peoples gatherings. Hunt down few people who deliver not life serving orders to many people.
Sir did you give order to shut down public places? Yes, bullet in the head and no questions asked. RESPONSIBILITY <-- is ability to respond for own actions. Do you have medical evidence for Corona virus? No bullet in the head and this why you protect thousands millions of people from harmful vaccines, grabbing tax money, too many Jews in a show biz. Target leaders, everyone who suggest to imagine for crowds.
purge grabbers

>> No.18387557

>>18387495
take your meds schizo

>> No.18387627

>>18385668
Imagine how flabby her pussy must be by now.

>> No.18387639

>>18387209
That picture of pyramid and eye on the top is not complete original painting. below that pyramid two human skeletons facing each other and prying on that pyramid , I can not find that picture any more some on took original down
But id you see whole picture then that small part of whole get totally different meaning expressed in symbols that you don't need to know how to read in order to get it.

>> No.18387651

>>18385565
Will this white girl ever get on the Suterusu train? Who wants a badly aging white woman when Chinese girls are vastly superior anyway?

>> No.18387673

>>18387209
If you find picture whole, not just upper side small circle in the middle. that what pyramid with eye is, but whole picture that is very descriptive and informative as a whole ...

>> No.18387684

>>18387495
GO! Go and hunt the jews! Do it NOW!

>> No.18387696

>>18387495
most schizophrenic post I have ever seen

>> No.18387704

>>18386171
Because you are retard and have no clue about oil hoax and energy hoax in general , So in my eyes only mentioning Petro Dollar say a lot about you, who still believe in Santa and flying balls in imaginary space. Water around continents is flat , got it? You live on the continent popping out of surface of water and space is not that big just between your ears, dummy!

>> No.18388503

>>18385668
>>18385668

What is this webm from and why are there 2 angles of the same shot available

>> No.18389082

>>18387188
>central bank can fall into a situation in which nothing it does can rescue an economy
because they have ZERO intrest rate and have kept it at fucking zero they cant do anything now to stop deflation, if these fuckers just raised rates when they should have after the 08 shitstorm then we would be in a normal economy now
you can't have permenant growth forever, recessions are needed as part of the economic cycle same with bankruptcy and the business cycle
there are hundreds of thousands of zombie businesses that should have failed years ago
this entire economy is basically a zombie economy theres no fixing it other than letting it do what it has to do and fucking die

>> No.18389406

>>18386461
Iraq had nuclear weapons and was under a dangerous dictatorship. Libya's Ghaddafi is a murder who plant bombs on airplanes.

>> No.18389421

>>18386461
Petrodollar had nothing to do with those countries, just their leaders who were threatening freedom and world peace..

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>>18389406
>Iraq had nuclear weapons
doesn't know about the WMD hoax (officially admitted)
>Libya's Ghaddafi is a murder
doesn't know about the oil agreement sell oil denominated in foreign currency

you are a special kind of retard

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>>18385565

>> No.18389574

>>18385598
BTC and GOLD are better
you're just dumb and dealing with dumb retards
enjoy your oil dump

>> No.18389624

>>18387684
CONGRESSMAN
PIPE BOMB
AIRPORT
ALL TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS GO NOW

>> No.18389631

>>18385565
You know that's an underage girl right?

>> No.18389633

>>18385565
This woman wants to be raped.

>> No.18389684

>>18387148
Doubt it, too much information on finance and history available these days. US dollar would be the last fiat currency to ever be trusted as a reserve currency.

>> No.18390301

>>18385565
Hahaha what if i came up and flicked my tongue up her buttcrack lol would be soo gross eww haha

>> No.18390350

>>18387627
Her name is valentina Bilbao. Just 18 too. So yes she was 14 in that webm

>> No.18390360

>>18387495
This girl was also 14 too. They’re clearly pushing pedophilia too

>> No.18390405

>>18387495
based virulent ESL poster

>> No.18390414

>>18385565
No one nation can counteract it unless they want to embrace isolationism. Everyone in the market would need to get on board with flipping the dollar. And that will never happen because they're all competing with one another.
The dollar milkshake theory is basically a prophecy that's set in stone at this point.

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>> No.18390577

>>18385565
If the other countries would fear of USD hyperinflation, they'd sell USD denoted fixed-income assets, Which momentarily increases the USD demand. Inflation comes after.

That is exactly what is happening. Of course, we don't know what is the reason for selling the assets.

>> No.18390780

>>18385565
Ever since the middle age there has been an international reserve currency and traditionally it was affiliated to the country with the most powerful navy (as strong navy = control of trade routes)
Now let's review the potential competitors to the dollar:
1) the euro: not even 20 years old, relies on a barely functioning union that could be disbanded anytime with countries coming and going out of it, pretty much NO military power (only France has some capacities now the UK left)
2) the yuan: aggresively manipulated by the CCP, only a regional projection power

>> No.18390912

>>18390780
forget about the euro, euro is done for, I'm sure all the EU countries will bring back their own currencies, EU can't even decide on the eurobonds issue and Germany is clearly sick of the southern european countries racking up debt and asking for bailouts, not respecting austerity measures and just continuing to run a deficit waiting for other countries to pay.
If Germany brings back the deutsche mark then it will be a strong candidate for reserve currency and will 100% be the prefered currency within europe just as german bonds prefered with AAA and even with negative yields

>> No.18390923

>>18385901
She wants to dress like a slut she can get fucked like one. Faggot.

>> No.18390970

>>18385565
>Why can't the world dump US Dollars?
seriously? you want to know why countries do not want to get invaded? why countries and their people do not want to get subversively torn apart by some intelligence service?
geo strategy is about power - nothing else. the us is a bully. unfortunately the alternatives would be even bigger bullies like china.
humanity living peacefully together is not going to happen because that's not how nature works.

>> No.18390978

>>18389421
So we must have left their gold with them, right?

>> No.18391006

>>18389406
This is your brain on zog propaganda

>> No.18391025

>>18389406
>>18389421
Why do newfags think their opinion is valuable?

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>>18390461
>Obvious mutt
>White

>> No.18391194

>>18386020
No. But I see what you are getting at tho.
It's only canceled out if you get paid more, otherwise, you are still paying more dollars for the same goods.
You only have 10 dollars to spend on food a day. You can now only eat half as much with inflation of 1$ for every one dollar you used to spend.

>> No.18391207

>>18389631
>>18385901
So young and already a slut
All women are whores

Just kidding
16 isn’t young

>> No.18391243

>>18389455
sauce?

>> No.18391446

>>18389406
>>18389421

Holy shit. A real wild life boomer. I didn't know these things existed here? Can someone cap this for future reference. We need to study their low IQ for future generations to know what NOT to do.

>> No.18391566

>>18391446
pretty sure its only a larper. cant imagine a real boomer shitposting here.

>> No.18391607

>>18385918
She has a good ass for a bitch that doesn’t train

>> No.18391840

anybody know of a book or maybe a few books to read in order to understand basically how the economy works and how it came to our current situation? thanks

>> No.18392115

>>18391566
They are here and concentrated in /ptg/.

>> No.18392154

>>18385565
What's going through a girl's head when she wears something like that? She is aware dudes are gonna stare at her ass and want to fuck her?

>> No.18392177

>>18392154
>What's going through a girl's head
Nothing

>> No.18392290

>>18385616
kys.

>> No.18392333

>>18386121
By bringing the US value from labor/value from capital more in line with theirs.
Anyone who has capital shouldn't complain.

>> No.18392395

>>18392154
the same thing going through your head but in reverse

>> No.18392408

>>18392154

>he still doesn't realize this is how women derive power

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>>18389421

>> No.18393770

>>18385565
Made for BBC

>> No.18394634

>>18389421
Nice bait dude,guaranteed (you)s.