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>30 yo boomer
>very high IQ
>but no education and barely any work experience
What business can i go and make money in?
>inb4 bitcoin
>inb4 sucking cock
not doing either of those.

>> No.18297299

Coding, testing.

>> No.18297301
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>>18297292
Let me test that IQ: Is Bitcoin going to go up or down? Also is this a man?

>> No.18297307

>>18297292
Very high IQ but unable to formulate a strategy to exploit the system for gains?

I think step one is to shed your delusions and decide what you actually want and in what time frame. What does make it mean to you?

>> No.18297321

>>18297292
>very high IQ
learn trading strategies that give you 5-10% returns every month. also try to live off-grid if you still have the option.

>> No.18297335

>>18297301
i would guess that since people need cash right now that it's going down then rebounding later.
I don't know because i haven't seen her pussy.

>> No.18297336

>>18297292
lEaRn 2 cOde
but the thing is if you were really actually smart and 30 years old and not a complete faggot you would already know how to code lol. so you dumb you stupid waggie cuck. sorry bro.

>> No.18297350

>>18297292
sucking bitcoins

>> No.18297361

>>18297307
what system?
>>18297321
On the stockmarket etc? I thought that trading was mostly a losing game. But i haven't tried either.
Do people really trade from their home and make money?

>> No.18297372

>>18297336
what code should i learn?

>> No.18297381

>>18297372
Ok you seem like an alright person. I would recommend python to start off with.

>> No.18297387

>>18297361
All systems. Society is a system that can be leveraged. Stock markets, job markets. There are systems abound with rules and expectations, smart people find weaknesses in those systems and exploit them for gain.

>> No.18297394

>>18297292
You're a millennial not a boomer

>> No.18297396

>>18297292
>30
>no work experience
its over. might as well have a felony on your criminal record

>> No.18297397

>>18297336
> what code should i learn?
Ohh shit. Okay. I always tell people trying to learn the same advice: Think of something you want to build and work towards that goal. Instead of starting with the tool, plan the idea and pick the best tool for the job. I mostly use Node.js / JavaScript, but it's pretty gay and mostly for faggots. I don't mind because JavaScript faggot talk pays six figures right now and is good to know anyway when using Chrome or websites and shit.

>> No.18297405

>>18297372
> what code should i learn?
Ohh shit. Okay. I always tell people trying to learn the same advice: Think of something you want to build and work towards that goal. Instead of starting with the tool, plan the idea and pick the best tool for the job. I mostly use Node.js / JavaScript, but it's pretty gay and mostly for faggots. I don't mind because JavaScript faggot talk pays six figures right now and is good to know anyway when using Chrome or websites and shit.


ooops double post

>> No.18297411

>>18297381
thanks
i did once start on a coding education but i dropped out because i hated school and i'm a b person.

>> No.18297426

>>18297361
Yes.

It is very possible.

I trade options and micro cap stocks and am up around 150k profit this last 6 months.

Takes a while to learn though.

>> No.18297430

>>18297411
>i did once start on a coding education but i dropped out because i hated school and i'm a b person.

fuck computer school it sucks anyway

github.com
khanacademy.org
w3schools.com/js/

Then you can probably ask some faggots over at /g/ or reddit.com/r/programming

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>>18297292
>very high IQ

>> No.18297444

>>18297397
>>18297405
I had ideas for websites in the past.
But also i'm intrigued with people who say they have a program that has models of stuff. fx stockmarket etc.
When you don't know code it all sounds like magic.

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>>18297292
>How do make it?
You get surgery.

>> No.18297461

>>18297411
Just give yourself a goal to work towards, it makes it way easier to learn when you're trying to accomplish something than just opening a book and learning things in a vacuum. For example make it a goal to connect to an exchange's API and store the price feed data on a local PSQL database.

>> No.18297464

>>18297361
you sound quite low iq fren

>> No.18297465

>>18297430
ok thanks.

>> No.18297472

>>18297426
How did u get started?

>> No.18297475

>>18297426
Do you make a profit buying options or do you primarily use sell strategies?

>> No.18297481

>>18297426
Do you trade of technical analysis or do you trade of more practical information?
I mean do you say "this product looks good, this business has a good plan" or do you trade on the financial numbers?

>> No.18297483

>>18297292
>tfw 32 about to be 33 and in the same spot

I want to die every fucking day

>> No.18297489

>>18297301
that's a man

>> No.18297502

>>18297444
>When you don't know code it all sounds like magic.
Yeah. 25 years into it and I still get the magic feeling every time I run the code. It's a huge and vast field. That's why I recommend people start with an attainable goal and work towards that so they can start in a more narrow part of the field.
You got this anon. I can tell you have the right mentality for this and you seem sincere in your motivation. Good luck.

>> No.18297513

>>18297461
>>18297502
thanks. I will try coding.

>> No.18297514
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get a gf

>> No.18297523

>>18297444
dont bother learning to code its a waste of time. you run into problems and bumps which will take hours, days even weeks to resolve. For every 5 mins of actual progress you make you spend countless hours on stackoverflow trying to find out why commands arent working. The whole coding industry is a complete clusterfuck, absolutely full of bugs and errors which mutate with time. As soon as youve fixed one problem you run into another and its just the most timewasting shitty activity you can do.

>> No.18297541

>>18297523
the only people who make it with coding are the literal aspies who started learning iit n the womb. At 30 its too fuckin late.

>> No.18297545

>>18297483
You gotta think about why it happened but then also forgive yourself and move on. Part of my problem is i would be angry and bitter about things.

>> No.18297566

>>18297523
>>18297541
How did the first coders code then?

>> No.18297579

>>18297502
Counterpoint. I tried it 4 times to learn it. I even faked my way through a MSc in Comp Sci. Life feels such a waste when you spend half a day figuring out where you misplaced a ; over an ,

I am now work in consulting. Making up pointless powerpoints out of nothing and calling it strategic is much more fun.

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>>18297579
> Counterpoint. I tried it 4 times to learn it.
Yeah, probably because you are a retard. It's totally cool though because there are plenty of retards out there living kick ass lives.

>> No.18297604

You say trading its a losing game without even trying to figure that out. Yeah high IQ sure bud.

>> No.18297606

>>18297472
It's really fucking hard if you don't have a mentor cause you have to learn it all for you self.

But i'll give you the basic rundown. Basically you need to think what gives you a competitive advantage over others in different markets.

I primarily focus on two strategies. Micro cap swing trading (hold for between a week and a few months usually) or options trading bigger moves (hold for a few months).

For micro caps, they are very under researched and swing hard because of low liquidity (think if a big fund wants to buy/sell shares in a small company worth only 100mil) it will move big up / down. So you can get ahead of them if you do research and see movement. You can get in and out quickly, and don't have all the big bullshit overhead of a big fund. So micro caps are profitable.

The logics of being profitable in options trading are more complex and I would suggest reading books by Nassim Taleb to see if you would be interested in that.

A third possible strategy is day trading, I don't do this much but I know people make 200k+ a year from it. This is basically just focusing on larger stocks that are moving over a day or two due to a certain news catalyst or updated earnings. So you need to learn accounting and how market perceives updates etc. And just see how the market reacts. Have an opinion of a stock is a good or bad one. Control your emotions. Limit your losses. Takes a while to learn.

The key in all of these is LIMIT YOUR LOSSES TO A FRACTION OF YOUR GAINS. For example, if you are day trading and looking for a 3% move in the stock, you should limit your loss to get out at say -0.6% if your trade goes against you in the other direction. If you are trading an option strategy, make sure no matter the worst case outcome you can't lose more than 10% of your trading account etc.

>>18297475
Usually buying / net debit but I do a small amount of selling with limited loss strategies if IV is high.

>> No.18297609

>>18297335
>her
you failed the IQ test

>> No.18297636

>>18297483
You can do this my fren.

>> No.18297637

>>18297292
If you're smart and disciplined, start (day-)trading. The next months learning it will be an emotional hell, but as soon as you've found your edge, you're a free man with full bags.

>> No.18297647

>>18297604
I said i thought that because that's what i heard when i looked into it. Also when i was younger the people who would tell you to get into trading was almost all flim flam people trying to sell some investment strategy etc.

>> No.18297728

>>18297606
>>18297637
Personally i like the idea of researching companies etc and finding strenght weaknesses. Or fx trading news stories.
I heard of traders who made shorts before corona and i guess i would have done something simular if i was a trader.
but when i saw traders it seemed that they were all just bogged down in all kind of technical numbers and graphs and such.
Maybe it's a bit of both?

>> No.18297780

>>18297728
There are many ways to trade. I also know a very successful news-trader. But desu, all you really need is TA and money-management. I usually ignore news completely.

>> No.18297792

>>18297292
not a very high IQ if you have to ask those questions.
Very high IQ would have figured them out already.

>> No.18297816

>>18297637
>If you're smart and disciplined, start (day-)trading. The next months learning it will be an emotional hell, but as soon as you've found your edge, you're a free man with full bags.

Pretty much this advice is saying if you are good at gambling, start day-trading. Attaining long-term gambling success requires a very specific mentally. I don't have it at all. I do work on software for finance trading systems. Pretty much we only make trades that are guaranteed to have a profit immediately, or have a risk capped at a minimal amount of basis points. I'm most likely eating bad day traders tendies all day long.

>> No.18297844

>>18297816
Daytrading is indeed very hard, that's why I put it into brackets - but not impossible. I mostly trade the 15min chart and am doing fine. Trading of the daily though is very easy. I think I could teach that even my grandma in a few weeks or months.

>> No.18297875

>>18297844
You play poker at all?

>> No.18297888

>>18297844
Could explain a normal trade you might make and what goes into it?

>> No.18297902

>>18297875
No, I have never touched anything related to gambling in my life yet and also don't think it would make me as happy as trading does.

>> No.18297933

>>18297336
Coding ability doesn't depend on one's intellect. Its practice like drawing ,music ,instruments and new languages. Good coders make better code and better money. This 30 yr old could get coding skills quickly on the off chance that he is a prodigy.

>> No.18297940

>>18297292
>very high IQ
>he needs an advice from an anime board
I love you.

>> No.18297943

>>18297301
yooo why is (s)he taller than the fucking door frame what the fuckkkk

>> No.18297945

>>18297301
bitcoin go up and hopefully this is a man

>> No.18297953

>>18297888
It's not possible to go into details in a post here, but basicially all that I do is the following:
1. In the morning I look through my 12 handpicked markets, which are some majors, minors, futures and btc. in each asset I look going down from 1d-4h-1h-15min.
2. I draw some Trendlines, S/R when I see it, but not in the 15min chart.
3. As soon as there is a Setup evolving, like a breakout, trend-continuation, etc. in the higher timeframes, I look for a good entry in the 15min chart with a quite tight stop. This is hard to do and requires a proper amount of experience/screentime.
4. I ride the whole movement through, either in the 1h or sometimes also 4h chart, depending on the technicals. This results in some very good Profit ranging from 3:1 to 10:1 if I'm lucky.

Hope that summs it up somehow.

>> No.18297983

>>18297933
>Coding ability doesn't depend on one's intellect. Its practice like drawing ,music ,instruments and new languages.
Yes and no. Craftsmanship will get you a long way as a developer, but to reach the higher echelons of software engineers you do need significant computing power in your brain. I do agree with you about the practice part and prodigy part.

>> No.18298017

>>18297953
So you might trade a market going up without necessarily knowing why it goes up?

>> No.18298044

>>18297292

Work shit jobs, make yourself useful and carefully invest. I was like you at 29, completely broke too. Now I'm doing better than most. Just don't waste your money on crap and you're ahead of most debt cucks.

>> No.18298049

>>18298017
TA isn't magic, it just raises your chance of winning to 55-80%, so the word "know" is a bit wrong here. But if you mean by that, that I just look into the charts and completely ignore the news - yes that's correct.

>> No.18298079

>>18297609
THIS

>> No.18298105

>>18298044
Except most people don't waste their life on 4chan.

>> No.18298121

Sucking ass hole

>> No.18298151

>>18298049
For some reason i always thought it was a myth that people could make money trading like that.

>> No.18298203

>>18298151
I did aswell, but I think the reasons for that is, because there are so many shills online who try to sell their "2 MA Cross RSI MACD Stoch Strategies" and what not to their audience, which makes people think, this is classic technical analysis.
Personally I don't know any Pro-Trader who uses all those kind of stupid indicators, besides a Moving Average here and there.

>> No.18298351

>>18298203
Yes i would either see these people selling guaranteed profit strategies and then actual traders saying that it was almost impossible and that most people failed.

>> No.18298370

>>18298049
Fucking this.

>> No.18298488

>>18297301
Nice boi pucci

>> No.18298613

>>18297292
>very high IQ
>no education or work experience
Mutually exclusive my dude

>> No.18299118

You should own 1 bitcoin. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t. It’s a binary bet. It’s about risk to reward ratio in 10 years.

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>>18297292
>very high IQ
>asking how to make it in the literal shithole of the internet

top kek someone tell him pls

>> No.18299282

>>18297292
>What business can i go and make money in?
>but no education and barely any work experience
Wendy's sous-chef

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>>18297292
>27
>Only work experience was under the table in a gelateria in a mall
>No good education
>Started this year actually not wanting to die
>Went to job agency
>Corona happened

Not sure if I should be glad or not, was kinda hoping for something like this to shake society up. Then again I expected to die with it.

I just kinda want to work on ships, go to sea.
I feel absolutely fucked

>> No.18299463

>>18297606
Sources on finding micro caps? Whats you strat for research

>> No.18299756

>>18298613
this sorry

>> No.18299777

>>18297292
Sucking cock while doing bitcoin

>> No.18300437
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>>18297292
I am 30 and I have a paid off apartment (26m2) and 320.000 yuropoors in liquidity.
Started being a well paid wagie at 16 by working at an insurance firm and lived in my parents home until 27, so i could save a lot.
I dont regret anything.

>> No.18300474

>>18300437
Are you a virgin?

>> No.18300500

>>18297292
>very high IQ
do you actually have proof or did you take an online test?

>> No.18300597

>>18300474
No, I do have a girlfriend that is 20y old and very cute, however she struggles with anxiety issues and only works 3h per day.

>> No.18300663

>>18300500
I took the WAIS-IV test with a psycologist.
I maxed the PRI index.

>> No.18300724

>>18300437
26m2
320,000
wtf lol

>> No.18300768

>>18300663
after 2 mins of reading your comments, im pretty sure you dont have a high iq

>> No.18300852

>>18300724
I basically bought a students apartment near to the university of my home town, that is where I live now until my gf and I will live together.
The small apartment is a guaranteed and instant rent when I put it on the market and in relation to what I paid for it is a good investment.

>> No.18300857

>>18297292
>le underachieving genius meme

fuck off, retard.

>> No.18300975

>>18300857
it's more common than you think. fact is society offers very little opportunity for unconnected high IQ people. Most businesses would rather higher retards they know than geniuses they don't.

>> No.18301001

>>18297292
Ah the skinnyfat reflection, got to sort that out

>> No.18301016

>>18297396
Is this true? I am also 30 years old with no work experience. I was thinking of studying computer science and becoming a programmer/software developer. Am I fucked no matter what I do at this point?

>> No.18301032

>>18301016
yes

>> No.18301162

>>18301032
fuck

>> No.18301227

>>18299340
Navy perhaps, sick bonuses and or student loan repayment. Also way less shitty being deployed on a boat vs the desert. Bases are almost all by beaches if you're /fit/

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>>18297292
I'd say if you're 30 and in your 30 years on earth you've achieved absolutely nothing, then you aren't high IQ. Stop deluding yourself retard

>> No.18301547

>>18301016
>30 years old with no work experience
WEW lad

>> No.18301665

>>18297450
truth
fix eyes, teeth, chin and any other facial problem

>> No.18301751

>>18301535
My IQ is 127. 30 years old, never had a job or completed any higher education.

>> No.18301843

>>18299340
Merchant marines

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>>18301016
Nigga wtf have you been doing the last 12 years?!

>> No.18301897

>>18301751
I only work part time under the table as a janitor at MIT. I solve unsolvable math problems that are left on classroom chalkboard. I am. . . Matt Damon

>> No.18301953
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18301953

>high iq

>> No.18301968

>>18301870
Figuring out how to improve my mental health. I've gotten breddy gud at it recently.
>>18301897
Do you really find it hard to believe that a high IQ individual could have issues that would prevent said individual from achieving things?

>> No.18301995

>>18297292
you're delusional m8 if you think you have a very high IQ imo

>> No.18301998

>>18301751
No it isn't.

>> No.18302040

Why do people get so triggered about me having a high IQ?

>> No.18302048

>>18301953
>>18301995
>>18301998
What, no one on 4chan has a high IQ? Do you really believe this?

>> No.18302056

>>18297301
Sauce

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>>18297292
>very high IQ

>> No.18302132

>>18297301
>you will never have a qt trap gf
why even live?

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>>18297292
>not doing either of those
Anymore?

>> No.18302194

>>18301968
Get a job Jerry

>> No.18302200

>>18297292
> high IQ
> 30
> no work experience asking a bunch of room-temperature IQ pajeets and faggots for life advice
Lmao ngmi

>> No.18302305

>>18302194
The fact that I recognize this quote proves how high my IQ is.

>> No.18302323

>>18297461
How much time would I need to learn a language decently? like to be able to get a job at least.

>> No.18302424

>>18297307
you can but regardless of high IQ it takes work ethic unless you go into crime

>> No.18302504
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18302504

I just took an online IQ test.

>> No.18302562

>>18302504
>'iq test' from some arab language site
Lmao

>> No.18302700

>>18297292
Coding for a job wagie loser.

Healthcare or telco/cyber security if you’re gonna go alpha and buy a biusiness.

>> No.18302765

>>18297301
yes and yes

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>>18301751
You took an online test you mean. They overstate the score so you're more likely to brag about it and share the link to the test on facebook. Congratulations, you fell for it dumb goy

>> No.18303017

>>18302923
Actually, I was tested by a psychologist.

>> No.18303055

>>18297292
>no education
>high IQ
Intelligent Quotient measures your educational progress vis-a-vis an established set of logical steps with which one can break down and so surmount larger issues. Concordantly, you may choose only one of your above statements to be true. And it won’t be the second.

>> No.18303145

>>18297461
>>18297502
You coders, what code do I need to learn if I want to create/host a basic website and live feed exchange data into it. The data should then display in form of numbers and customized graphs. Bonus: feed of on-chain data of a blockchain as well, like transaction numbers etc.

>> No.18303422

>>18297450
>the chad giganose
>the virgin normiechad

>> No.18303561

>>18297307
I'm an unironic psychologically tested 139 iq and I have zero business sense or the faintest idea of what to "exploit" in the "system" which is funny because I just finished reading a book on systems science and cybernetics. My mind is not wired to create capital, my observations of my surroundings and the world is to fuel shit like political philosophy writings or ideas for my paintings. I've never once thought to myself "that's a way to make money" or "that's a good business idea/investment ect". I also read much about historical economic systems and I majored in math. I honestly do not understand how to think like that. I currently live with my dad making 50k a year cleaning pools because getting a full time job that pertains to my degree would take too much time and energy out of my day to focus on my own personal projects
Any tips?

>> No.18303563

>>18303055
>the education system is based on logic

>> No.18303840

>>18303017
For what purpose