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Why do people think we're going back to normal after a few weeks or months of lockdowns? Until we have a vaccine aren't we essentially helpless against corona except for slowing it down as much as we can?

>> No.18279786

>>18279545
It's a flu so warm weather will kill it

>> No.18279810

>>18279786
Most retarded shit I've read on this board lmao

>> No.18279835
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18279835

The flu is just the pin that popped the bubble.

They could release a vaccine tomorrow and restart the economy and we would still have a 10+ year economic depression regardless.

Hyper inflation is inevitable and we will return to a gold standard.

>> No.18280067

>>18279545
Eventually herd immunity kicks in

>> No.18280115

>>18280067
We know from the death rates that if we relied on herd immunity millions of people would die while we achieved it.

>> No.18280191

>>18279545
We're all getting sick, brother. The goal of social distancing is to spread it out over the next year or so, so we don't all get sick and need to be hospitalized at the same time, because we don't have enough hospital beds for everybody at once.

>> No.18280214

>>18280191
>everyone needing to be hospitalized
>over a flu
which brainlet should I post

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18280233

It's ogre doomers. Go home.

>> No.18280268

>>18280191
Found the idiot

>> No.18280283

>>18279786
it currently exists in warm areas, and cold areas aren't gonna get warmer then places near the equator.

>> No.18280284

>>18280214
Obviously I was saying everybody who needs to be hospitalized, hospitalized at once. Not everybody who gets it. Some percentage of people contracting this thing require hospitalization. It also spreads quickly through a population, so without taking measures to slow the spread, more people ill more quickly, so even a small percentage of people becomes too many for a community's inpatient capacity.

>> No.18280304

>>18280191
I don't think that's the plan, I think the idea is that we'll survive by using lockdowns until we get a vaccine. If there's a vaccine coming it makes sense to have heavy restrictions till we get it. But that definitely means up to a year of restrictions, according to many estimates of when a vaccine might be developed.

If there isn't a vaccine coming then we should slowly allow people to get sick to develop herd immunity while giving us time to develop new non-vaccine treatments and not overwhelming hospitals and have as many survivors as possible, as >>18280115
suggested. But giving up on getting a vaccine is a major decision and requires a major policy change.

>> No.18280312

>>18280268
I'm just going to assume that you don't work in healthcare or at a hospital.
Why do you think you know more about the capacity of our healthcare system than people who do?

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>>18279545
We can just wear masks nigga, let Bezos or whoever the fuck make shittons of them.

>> No.18280340

It only hurts boomers and fat people. We will be better off if all those over 50 years of age and bmi>25 drown in their own lungs. For good people it's just like a mild cold. Truly a nothing burger. I for one resent the shit out of the old and fat people that are shutting down the economy for no reason. Their lives are worth so very little and I'm angry that people are acting otherwise.

>> No.18280367

>>18280304
The Gates foundation is spending billions on vaccine production infrastructure, and thinks we have to wait 18 months on the "good" estimate.

I do think most will get ill at this point, it has spread throughout the country. Containment is unlikely at this point, but that's my opinion.

Thankfully, most of us who get it won't require medical assistance or develop pneumonia, etc.

But I do think it's going to sweep through the population now, we took action too late to prevent it from coming to USA or contain it once it did.

>> No.18280420

>>18280340
I hear you. I disagree but i understand why you're angry. I'm sure you're not alone, but you're grossly outnumbered. And as a society most people have decided that preventable loss of human life is a bad thing, even if we have to sacrifice personal comfort to prevent that loss of life.

There's precedent for this. Think of all the "safety" things that are annoying. Seat belts. Building codes. Rules for wearing hard hats and vests. Speed limits. Fire exits. Sprinkler systems. We do things as a society to prevent loss of life, even when those things are a nuisance or additional cost.

This COVID thing is that to the extreme. Most people think it's worth it. Some people don't think so. You're not wrong to think the way you do, you're just outnumbered.

>> No.18280476

>>18280420
Too extreme. If they want to stay inside then fine, they can starve to death or wear a mask and continue working. Instead they hold the economy hostage. There is no comparison that can be made. It's like some guy saw goatse and was mad so he went and burned down a church full of good people. Evil actions that are in no way justifiable. A single day of shutdown harms us many times in excess what these 'people' are worth. We need to stop pretending. It sucks for old people but they should be retired, they can ride a quarantine out. Fat people have had their whole life to stop being fat, it only takes doing literally nothing. The way I see it they've made their choice and must live with the consequences. They are being selfish by forcing this on us.

>> No.18280526

Business as usual for 99% of people. Death for boomers who would've died in months anyway.

>> No.18280536

>>18280526
not only, death to all the over weight feminists and sjws with poor health and who are obese with diabetes
truly a based pandemic

>> No.18280549

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>> No.18280557

>>18280536
Yeah I'm thinking Wuflu is fucking based.

>> No.18280567

>>18279545
Can someone edit this so the female is appropriately clothed and the man is bob getting excited over line goes down

>> No.18280569

>>18280549
BTC gonna visit 2000s

>> No.18280576

>>18279545
If we did a better job in lockdown we could all be returning to normal in a couple months.

I think we're fucked currently because the people not honoring the lockdown are prolonging the virus preventing it from being eradicated. which fucks the whole nation into waiting much much longer or just saying fuck it and overwhelming the hospitals and killing millions of people anyway.

>> No.18280590

>>18280367
How long do you think we'll be on lockdown? I'm thinking this will go at least another 6 months.

>> No.18280596

>>18280476
People who are healthy get sick too numb nuts. Doctors that are healthy people have gotten sick and died.

That means you can die too.

It's not just "worthless" people who die from this one.

And if they don't die they can have their lungs scarred up something fierce.

Both the healthy and unhealthy.

It's not just a "Fat and Old" disease.

>> No.18280613

>>18280576
The virus lives for weeks on surfaces. How exactly do you think we're going to eradicate it? The people who are being faggots and complying with lockdown is why this is still going on. They can't arrest all of us. Every politician supporting this shutdown should be hung by their entrails. It's disgusting and it's unamerican. Very rarely is someone hurt by using seat belts. Everyone is hurt when we shutdown the economy. Months is far too long anyway. Even tomorrow is not soon enough for us to go back to business as usual.

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>>18279545
human psychology.
months of lockdowns will result in riots and our wonderful leaders all dangling from lampposts. corona-chan is preferable, i suppose.

don't have to get rid of corona-chan. just get the number of cases back to a low level. if low enough can lift shutdowns and go back to contact tracing and quarantines + social distancing while we wait for a vaccine.

in the meantime, everyone in hospitals should be given a test. protects hospital workers from asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic and super-spreaders. also acts as a sentinel system to sample the local population for the virus. lockdown only areas where virus is surging again.

early detection. early treatment. anyone with symptoms should get a test and results in 24 hrs. treat with chloroquine or whatever immediately and self-isolate at home.

blah blah blah. etc etc etc. not an impossible problem. but the cdc fucked up and missed the window of opportunity to shut this down early. also nyc fucked up bigly. korea never even had to do any lockdowns. but they had previous experiences with this kind of thing. dunno.

>> No.18280620

>>18280340
We've already lost some decent talent. Prob trade you for 1 or 2 of the dead boomers and come out way ahead.

>> No.18280624
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>>18279545
Because of the right wing media and its pundits losing the plot

>> No.18280628

>>18280233
why are the recovered cases only slightly greater than the deaths?

>> No.18280634

>>18280596
In that case stay your pussy ass inside if you're not willing to risk it. I work in health care and ha'leen it it's not a big deal. Lungs fill up with fluid and they die within a few days. Old or fat every single time. Sure there are freak incidents but they are rare. This disease has <1% fatality and mainly affects old and fat. End this nonsense already. It is just a fat and old disease. Self isolate if you are afraid, that's on you. Don't force everyone else to suffer for your cowardice.

>> No.18280637

>>18280590
I think we'll start to see some loosening in July/August. Restaurants at partial capacity, retail stores opening with caps on customers, etc. Fully reopening everything will get ugly again quick, but as communities see fewer new cases we'll probably start venturing out more.

The fucking states that still dont have "stay at home" orders are just prolonging this thing for the rest of us. The sooner we can get a handle on things the sooner we can get back to it.

>> No.18280641

>>18280624
I understand why the trump administration doesn't even bother calling Americans citizens anymore just consumers.

>> No.18280645

>>18280569
lol
retard

>> No.18280647

>>18280596
I'm fairly certain he is trolling. If not a complete retard that will natural select themselves soon anyway.

>> No.18280663

>>18280620
No such thing as a decent old or fat person. All are bad. My life and any life is worth more than all boomers lives put together. You are projecting. If self esteem so bad commit suicide. No more having to read your stupid comments. Everyone happier.
>>18280647
I wear a mask, wash hands, everything. Contact with Wuhan patients 4 and 5 times a week, still I don't have it, or better yet, I have and am spreading while being asymptomatic. Just proves my point that it's nothing. Half ass wash your hands, keep distance, wear mask. Literally all it takes if you aren't a worthless old or worthless fat.

>> No.18280672

>>18280663
why would you wear a mask and wash your hands? It's the flu bro grow a pair. Just intentionally infect yourself so you have immunity.

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>>18280637
yeah, open in phases. most businesses can reopen, but movies, stadiums, concerts, etc. would be last to reopen.
might recommend masks for certain situations like travel or whatever.
meh. just throwing out ideas.

>> No.18280697

>>18280637
Yes and they will use stringent tracking procedures coupled with Ab testing to try to isolate small outbreaks as they occur. Likely they will do this with an app a new firm if mass surveillance

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>>18280624
>>18280641
The Democrats and the WHO have been much worse, pic related.

>> No.18280715

>>18280637
>jul/aug
hoping it's earlier than that. things should turn around this month.

>> No.18280716

>>18280688
>>18280596
>>18280614
>suddenly every MAGApede incel is an expert virologist
>>18280624
LMFAO
Cause and effect I guess.

>> No.18280718

>>18280697
If it looks like it is getting out of hand. Which it will in the US because burgers are dumb as shit and a second peak us starting to firm then they will have to enforce lockdown again

>> No.18280721

>>18280672
Tempting, but I don't intend to change how I behave just because of something small like this. Much worse infections like c.diff and mrsa in hospitals. If I get it I will be going out in public more often, especially grocery stores during the boomer reserved hours. Otherwise I'm not really doing anything extra until then. Just killing it with all the overtime I want. 3400usd last week.

>> No.18280730

>>18280624
Americans are so stupid they should be kept in doors indefinitely.

>> No.18280736

>>18280716
Do you mean centipede? Pangolin has scales but it's not a centipede. Virus is human to human transmission now as far as we know anyway.

>> No.18280761

>>18280716
>expert virologists
so, how'd they handle this crisis? good job?
kek. they're not that smart. it's just their specialty.
doesn't mean they're all fucking geniuses.

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>>18280716
>>18280730

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>>18279545
her leg length is like 2 times her whole upper body.

love this artist, can't remember the name though. remember reading these comics when i was a kid.

>> No.18280780

>>18280624
OHNONONO

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>>18280628
hate to break it to you anon but you might be color blind

>> No.18280794

>>18280761
Infection control would handle this, not virologist. Virologists don't really have much to do with it at all. They just study viruses, Wuhan coronavirus is a virus but OK. Normalfag does not care about a description of proteins and how long it is.. Only tangentially related to this. Comparison would be be a looking to a botanist when there is an overgrowth in the nematode population. Like you can kinda see it but also it's someone far down the list, with many others you would rather get input from on handling the issue.

>> No.18280796

>>18280715
Lol no, not with infections still increasing everyday and 50% of resolved cases resulting from death. I don't you anons realize how bad this is. Lockdown does not get rid of the virus, it just delays it. Our medical infrastructure is on the verge of collapse and if goes, things will be way worse econimically than any depression we've ever had. We are a fucking house of cards.

>> No.18280798

>>18280791
this is dunning-krueger at its finest

>> No.18280799

>>18280628
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
>Recovered cases outside China are estimates based on local media reports, and may be substantially lower than the true number.
I'm pretty sure its due to this

>> No.18280800

>>18280624
>Genuine malice
>>18280701
>>18280772
>Well meaning naivety
Not even a burger but holy shit false equivalency is crawling out your asshole.

>> No.18280809

>>18280794
yeah, true.
just referring back to poster's comment.
making the point that the experts fucked up on a historically bad level.

>> No.18280819

>>18280796
Nobody working vs just people who should not have been working to begin with. You are very wrong about everything in your post. We are entering a depression but for the opposite reasons you think. Only cure is going back to normal. Is ok if hospital does not have enough beds. United States has the most icu beds per capita. All medical professionals are trained in triage and can prioritize who is likely to recover and who is not worth expending resources on. It's impossible to overwhelm the system and this in why. We have protocols in place that ensures we are not overwhelmed. If they won't survive and we don't have room we send them home to die. If old or fat person on ventilador we withdraw care and let a good person have it. It's the American way and it's the only just way. Only liberals disagree, and their opinion is only worth as much as a fat or old's life.

>> No.18280826

>>18280663
>No such thing as a decent old or fat person. All are bad. My life and any life is worth more than all boomers lives put together
Yeah you're not in medicine. Nice try LARPer.

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>>18280796
>resolved cases
those numbers are all over the place.
what's the percentage for the UK?

>> No.18280840

>>18280624
everyday I thank god I was not born a sharter

>> No.18280850

>>18279835
This. The pandemic just-so coincides with that bond inversion.

>> No.18280860

>>18279545
>vaccine
There isn't a vaccine for AIDS after 40 years, there isn't a vaccine for SARS which was discovered in 2003. You'd have to be very hopeful to expect a vaccine this decade.

>> No.18280861

>>18280819
Not really. It's not just deciding who lives who dies from corona, that may have worked 100 years but not in this society. You aren't accounting for all the other displaced patients that would normally need treatment not related to corona. It's a butterfly effect. Also, your post makes no sense. You say we are entering a depression but not because of the virus and the only cure is to go back to "normal", the same "normal" that led to this horrible economic situation? That will fix it?

>> No.18280873

>>18280701
It's not really a left vs right issue, just look at socialist Sweden who have neither lockdowns nor travel restrictions.

>> No.18280879

>>18280826
Agreed, this anon comes off as an incompetent MAGAtard.

>> No.18280900

>>18280860
They're throwing billions at this, they expect a vaccine in a year best, 18 months likely. They will probably develop other anti-virals as well.

>> No.18280913

Looking at the 2003 SARS outbreak, the governments that were involved were fast in isolating the sick and quarentining those who potentially had contact. It went from potential world pandemic to being nearly eradicated in 8 months

>> No.18280961

>>18280798
kek yeah i noticed i that read wrong

>> No.18280965

>>18280826
Try again, I'm in medicine and working tonight. It's not exactly an uncommon job. Health care is a pretty big industry, and it's in other countries too, so it's not even an America only thing. You should know this.
>>18280861
Treatment is fluids and oxygen. Maybe intubation if it gets bad, fancy top shelf oxygen. About a third of my icu is covid+. Others still get treatment like normal. The lives of frequent flyers do not matter either. No sympathy for Dumbbitcheequa's third time this month visit for DKA or fatass mccantstop drinking whining about how he can't breath when he has heart failure. Noncompliance is an issue. Only now could it starting to become the patients issue as well, and I love it. I hope they die afraid and in pain, reflecting on their lives poor choices. Dialysis clinics continue as normal, we still have emergent heart caths, overall not much has changed besides the PPE shortage. If cnge happens there will be few victims. 99%of patients deserve to be sick and brought it on themselves.

>> No.18280968

>>18279835
we will never return to gold standard

>> No.18280973

>>18279545
>Until we have a vaccine
Multiple Drugs/Studies are showing signs of being effective forms of treatment.

>> No.18280975

>>18280304
vaccines are already developed just not approved

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>>18279545
>buying into the holocough meme.

>> No.18280986

>>18280420
This won't last. Once money and goods really start running dry other people dying will be more attractive

>> No.18280988

>>18280975
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/when-will-a-coronavirus-vaccine-be-ready
>Clinical trials, an essential precursor to regulatory approval, usually take place in three phases. The first, involving a few dozen healthy volunteers, tests the vaccine for safety, monitoring for adverse effects. The second, involving several hundred people, usually in a part of the world affected by the disease, looks at how effective the vaccine is, and the third does the same in several thousand people. But there’s a high level of attrition as experimental vaccines pass through these phases. “Not all horses that leave the starting gate will finish the race,” says Bruce Gellin, who runs the global immunisation programme for the Washington DC-based nonprofit, the Sabin Vaccine Institute.

>There are good reasons for that. Either the candidates are unsafe, or they’re ineffective, or both. Screening out duds is essential, which is why clinical trials can’t be skipped or hurried. Approval can be accelerated if regulators have approved similar products before. The annual flu vaccine, for example, is the product of a well-honed assembly line in which only one or a few modules have to be updated each year. In contrast, Sars-CoV-2 is a novel pathogen in humans, and many of the technologies being used to build vaccines are relatively untested too. No vaccine made from genetic material – RNA or DNA – has been approved to date, for example. So the Covid-19 vaccine candidates have to be treated as brand new vaccines, and as Gellin says: “While there is a push to do things as fast as possible, it’s really important not to take shortcuts.”

>> No.18280992

>>18280988
>It’s for these reasons that taking a vaccine candidate all the way to regulatory approval typically takes a decade or more, and why President Trump sowed confusion when, at a meeting at the White House on 2 March, he pressed for a vaccine to be ready by the US elections in November – an impossible deadline. “Like most vaccinologists, I don’t think this vaccine will be ready before 18 months,” says Annelies Wilder-Smith, professor of emerging infectious diseases at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. That’s already extremely fast, and it assumes there will be no hitches.

>> No.18281004

>>18280913
yeah but thos time chinks fucked up early detection and didn't admit to pandemic before it spread across the globe

>> No.18281014

>>18280965
You talk shit but I got a feeling you treat everyone to the best of your abilities even if you think they shouldn't live

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>>18281004
first case was discovered in november and they have been importing medical equipment since december. they detected and knew right from the start how big this was going to get.

>> No.18281035

>>18280067
>what is influenza

>> No.18281042

>>18280624
>greatest economy in the world
what a despicable, duplicitous fucking kike

>> No.18281045

>>18281035
not caused a corona-virus, which has substantially lower mutation rate

>> No.18281063

>>18281014
doubt it. you think anyone takes the oath seriously? kek they are all atheists who only care about money and themselves like the majority of everyone else.
I also doubt they are in medical because they are a moron. Sounds like a larp troll to me.

>> No.18281076

>>18280913
Sars from 03 wasn't very contageous

>> No.18281086

>>18281023
nigga wouldn't let up with them tarrifs, he had to be punished.

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>>18281086
trump has been warning about china from before he was elected and now he's being proven right. manufacturing will gtfo china. plenty of better poor countries to exploit.

>> No.18281123

>>18279545
Immunity is a thing you know.
Tons of people had corona without even realizing.

>> No.18281152

>>18280800
>right wingers say corona isn’t a big deal
>”GENUINE MALICE!!!!”

>left wingers say corona isn’t a big deal
>”well-meaning naiveté”

Haha ok

>> No.18281157 [DELETED] 

>>18280800
>right wingers say corona isn’t a big deal
>”GENUINE MALICE!!!!”

>left wingers say corona isn’t a big deal
>”well-meaning naiveté”

Haha ok

>> No.18281184

>>18280701
The CDC too, they've literally killed more people there whole existence than have saved.

>> No.18281192

>>18280624
>>18280641
>>18280716
>>18280730
>>18280780
>>18280840
Please tell me what's wrong with what the people in that pic are saying.
100% serious question.

>> No.18281195

>>18281014
A guys got to vent now. Empathy might be low but I still take pride in beating the odds and shit. Can be conflicting at times but that's why we have alcohol. Patients are really a pain in the ass though. HHNK and a post cath waiting for a cabg tonight. Some CRRT too but that one ain't ain't going to make it.

>> No.18281200

>>18280968
This we will have some NWO type world digital currency so we can buy our bug proteins

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>>18279545
>>18279810

The truth although hard to believe is that virus can’t be transmitted. They are protein structures created by the body to cleanse certain areas of the body that have been poisoned/damaged. Normally our bodies use bacteria/parasites to cleanse however at some point they also can't even eat the damaged cells because the cells are to toxic.
The flu has been increasing year on year ( detoxification due to poor diet/ chemical poisoning)(we pass on toxicity generationally also. E.g. black death caused by people burning coal in their homes(high levels of gaseous mercury ect)). The knew this detoxification was coming(virus). They use 5gee to super excite oxygen( heat up) in the air causing lung damage, body then cleanses the damage by means of virus to allow new cells to grow.
They use the 5gee to manipulate patient numbers in particular areas ( princess diamond cruise ship, china ect to really get the hysteria going), use testing to manipulate patient numbers also( test when numbers are dropping to increase confirmed cases ect). Tests also produce false positives, so the more tests the more positive results.
All a manipulated scam that was founded on Pasteurs false theory which he recounted on his death bed “The microbe is nothing. The terrain is everything.”, they can earn a lot of money through Pasteur’s theory(whole pharma industry tied to it). So, it's a cleverly planned multifaceted fabrication designed to cause fear and panic and allow all the sheep to be easily controlled.

>> No.18281217

>>18281192
They're right to be concerned about the quarantining getting out of hand but until we have enough test kits and masks the average person can get access to it's just useless rambling since local governments aren't giving an inch.

>> No.18281219

It's not even about warm weather kills the virus, our bodies only detoxify at certain times of the year. It depends on light average temperature ect. It's all go time in the summer hence why it tends to be in the winter(Less activity).

>> No.18281236

>>18281063
People who don't take the oath seriously don't post on 4chan, it's the home of the best and the worst.

>> No.18281243

>>18281202
You are incredibly fucking dumb

>> No.18281249

>>18281217
The basic gist of the posts in that pic is "we can't let the quarantine go on so long that it kills the economy".
Which is an extremely reasonable point of view, yet people itt are treating it like they're talking about raping children. I seriously don't get it.

>> No.18281265

>>18280115

So be it. Let chips fall where they may.

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>>18281192
they don't realize that just because 70+ is the biggest risk group it doesn't mean that 30- isn't at risk either

1. we don't know the true death rate for all age groups. it's too soon, everything is just assumptions. people have not *recovered yet.
2. if you get sick you will have a really, really bad time and can't work anyway.
3. if you recover you can come out with permanent lung damage.

*only 3.5% of infected have actually recovered in USA. with 96.5% either still infected or dead it's impossible to be sure what the death rate is for any age group.

>> No.18281279

>>18281243
Have you heard of Pasteur vs Bechamp? DO you know the difference between the germ theory and the terrain theory.

What do you think about people eating 1+ year old rotten meat, "High meat" as the inuites called it.

You have heard one side of the coin all your life. Doesn't mean it's a one sided coin.

>> No.18281313

>>18280873

Swedes will pay for that dearly, like all other reality-ignoring populists and libertarian bullshitters.

>> No.18281350

>>18280233
>Italy in full fucking lockdown for weeks giving fines for unauthorised movement outside

>USA with loose version of "lockdowns" implemented in half of the states, no meaningful measures in others. Air travel still booming and travel from state to state not limited

Italy will do ok, USA is fucked.

>> No.18281359

>>18280873
>>18281313
we'll it's a little different depending on how much empty space there is to move around in as well.

>> No.18281409
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18281409

>>18281271
>they don't realize that just because 70+ is the biggest risk group it doesn't mean that 30- isn't at risk either
They're saying the risk for non-elderly isn't great enough to kill the entire economy for.
Which is very reasonable.

Pic related.

>> No.18281440

>>18281409
read my post one more time

>> No.18281451

>>18281440
I did.
It doesn't change what I said.

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>>18281451
Alright, here we go:

1. mortality rate is guesswork. people still infected can start dropping like flies in a month as far as we know.
2. mortality rate is based on medical care being available. if hospitals become overloaded more people will die, even in younger age groups.
3. if you get sick you don't work. you can't even work from home. if this happens enough it'll rape the economy worse than if people were able to work from home.
4. again, permanent lung damage. would you want to be known as the president that cut people's life spans? of course not.
5. this virus is new, there are things we still don't know about it. it's a gamble taking the unsafe before the safe just for the economy. it's not a decision to take lightly.

>> No.18281619

>>18281568
>1. people still infected can start dropping like flies in a month as far as we know.
This is wishful thinking.

>2. if hospitals become overloaded more people will die
That's what the quarantines/lockdowns/travel bans/... are for: to flatten the curve.

>3. if you get sick you don't work
Tons of people get corona and develop mild to no symptoms.

>4. again, permanent lung damage.
Wishful doom thinking again.
Most of the images of damaged lung scans show temporary damage.

>it's a gamble taking the unsafe before the safe just for the economy.
The people in that pic were simply saying quarantines should not last long enough to kill the economy outright.
I'm pretty sure everyone but the most delusional doomer agrees with this basic principle.

My question was why posters itt were reacting to this pic: >>18280624
as if the people in it were discussing raping children.
You're not addressing this.

>> No.18281640

>>18280988
The obvious solution is to combine phase 1 and 2 into one, monitoring for safety AND effectiveness at the same time. These are difficult times, thousands have lost their loved ones. There would be no shortage of volunteers, even though such methods have never been tried. Too bad Western governments won't even consider it, while non Western countries lack the capability to pull it off...

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>>18281619
move along, citizen

>> No.18281706

>>18279545
Young people don't die more than the flu, not a problem

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>>18281202
very based. there's so many fucking boomers and shills on this board that can't think for themselves.

even if this flu is 10x more dangerous than the actual flu, you still gain nothing by freaking out and being a retarded sheep.

>> No.18281726

>>18281409
>go out and contract virus on purpose
>lose another two weeks of work and get permanent lung damage
>permanent lung damage now counts as a preexisting condition in the future
>you die during second wave this fall/winter thanks to the new preexisting condition
>also insurance company boots you off the plan somewhere along the way because of your new preexisting condition and because freedom
>you threw away your life to do non essential work that didn't already have telecommuting
Good game, m8. Thanks for playing.

>> No.18281746

>>18279545
The problem is not the flu itself but the stress it puts on the health and delivery system. The quarantines are there to take the pressure off hospitals, not because only a few people are dying. Once the peak has passed and hospitals can cope with the numbers again in the summer months, everything should be fine whether there is a vaccine or not.

>> No.18281796

>>18281746
This. Although be prepared for the second wave with possibly new lockdowns come autumn.

>> No.18281798

>>18279545
Yup we have to stay put untill the virus is eradicated. SPY 200p 8/16

>> No.18281799

>>18281202
just out of curiosity, what do you do for work?

>> No.18281853

>>18279545
Sauce?

>> No.18281859

>>18281853
4chan

>> No.18281880

>>18280268
The Dutch government literally announced this just as for example the GB government.

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18281884

>>18280115
yes

>> No.18281902

>>18281859
+ that made me really mad so have a (Yo dawg)

>>18281726
>because of your new preexisting condition and because freedom
+

>>18281219
Big if true

>> No.18281930

>>18279810
what about
>>18279835

>> No.18281935

>>18279786
HahahahahGaha whos mans is this

>> No.18281939

>>18280624
they're 100% correct, everyone under 30 should be allowed to go about their day, it's the boomers who need to stay isolated for their own good.

>> No.18281968

>>18281271
bullshit, people under 30 have consistently shrugged off the virus, if someone under 30 dies it's rare that they make the news

I think the people in charge are scared of creating an age divide, exactly because they are in the "to be confined" category.

they're making this a collective thing because they don't want us to use this advantage to replace their positions of power.

>> No.18281998

>>18281968
Exactly. Rather hold the whole economy hostage than self isolate with grace and selfishness. Instead they are extra selfish. This is why they must be punished. They refuse to play fair, so why should we?

>> No.18282005

>>18280319
Agreed nigguh

>> No.18282006

>>18281726
4 of my friends have had it and I might as well and we are all fine. Don't be so afraid. Sure, it's worse than the flu, but I go to the office daily sitting next to coofing people (at 2 meters but that just lowers the chance of infection). Don't wash my hands more than normal because a trained and active immune system is in the end the most important asset you have to successfully pull trough.

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>>18281968
it's not bullshit, check out >>18281568 as well.
but you do you. i have a feeling things will get rebooted too soon to save the economy anyway, so you'll get your wish.

>> No.18282049

>>18281674
... says the good goy falling for the institutional panic fomenting.

>> No.18282058

>>18280614
>months of lockdowns will result in riots
Yeah just look at all the riots in italy.
stay the fuck inside and quit whining about every single thing stupid americans

>> No.18282060

>>18281968
I'm going to be honest with you. America is a land of sharting lardbeasts. People with comorbidities are hit incredibly hard by the virus no matter their age. Diabetes and obesity are some of the worst comorbidities you can have with the china plague. Obese people often have terrible lung function, never do cardio, and all the extra fat literally puts pressure/weight on the lungs. I don't think you can compare european and asian death rates and try to predict america's. The US needs a total lockdown even if other countries didn't.

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>>18279545
oh no.

>> No.18282072

>>18282049
good day to you

>> No.18282080

>>18279786
wtf is this "warm weather" shit theory. Already debunked with countries like Thailand or India. And guess what that means - you are not able to go back to normal with any country - tourism and business is done.

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>>18282064
oh yes.

>> No.18282117

>>18282060
lardbeasts have the option to self isolate if they fear for their life
but the fit and young should be given the opportunity to carve out our own slice now

fuck the boomers for trying to drag us down with them, as if they haven't already done enough to ruin our future.

>> No.18282130

>>18282024
fuck off boomer, you really think the vague statistics schtick is still going to work? After all the poll statistics predicting Hillary would win, or brexit wouldn't happen?

>> No.18282137

>>18282080
>wtf is this "warm weather" shit theory
Viruses don't do well in warm weather.
Which is why flu seasons always peak in winter.

>Already debunked with countries like Thailand or India.
Thailand and India have almost nothing going on in terms of corona.
The same is true in general for warm countries.

>you are not able to go back to normal with any country - tourism and business is done.
You so desperately want this to be true don't you?

>> No.18282144

>>18282060
It really is weird how many people refuse to understand how obesity factors in to all of this. Fat HAES liberal zoomers and edgy MAGA fatty alcoholic fratboys really don't understand what is about to happen not just to their older family members, but to them specifically. They really think they can just compare themselves to the rest of the world based on age group.
Maybe its for the best that they find out the hard way.

>> No.18282157

>>18282144
>It really is weird how many people refuse to understand how obesity factors in to all of this
In Belgium it's all over the news how such a large proportion of corona cases in ICU are obese.

>> No.18282204

>>18280567
Why can't you? Faggot.

>> No.18282208

>>18279545
There's been a vaccine created already
It was made at the same time this manufactured disease was created.
Look up Bill Gates patent for this disease.

And you will take the vaccine, that concoction of god knows what, and you will like it.

>> No.18282209

>>18282117
>fit and young
Uhh.... I dunno if you've seen spring break pictures from the last few years, but America's youth is going to get its ass handed to it by this virus compared to the youth of other countries. Our youth are fat drunks. Maybe 1 in 10 guys actually lift. Women are hamplanets in training by sophomore year of college if not already fullblown hamplanets, and even less of them actually lift or work out.

>> No.18282223

>>18279545
Big pharma shill.

>> No.18282226

>>18282208
sauce

>> No.18282258

>>18280367
I dint think well have to wait to long for gates to release a vaccine. Especially for a disease that his group created and he patented.
Best part about your statement?
India Africa and multiple nations across the globe have a kill on site order for gates and members of his organization. Why?
His vaccines were used to sterilize millions and cause psychological issues in many more.
No om not bullshitting.

>> No.18282261
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>>18280968
"the design of a disruptive crisis must also be done according to procedures; once the cryptocurrency system has been deployed and successfully tested, the collapse of the dollar-based monetary system can proceed as planned. Actually, we are moving from a system based on the gold standard - in which the actors do believe that the declared quantities of gold are really what they are told - to a system based on altcoins, in which the agents do believe secrecy and anonimity is guaranteed."

"Social Security is essential for millions of retirees, therefore destroying Social Security is the main target. If we want to hurt the maximum number of people we need to hurt them there where they least expect it: in their future."

After the end of pax american, pax judaica will begin. Israel will be the world power. Gold and Silver will return as means of money.

Why do you think all the Gold is at the banks?

For the jews it isnt kosher to use fake paper money among themselves. Only Gold and Silver is kosher for them.

From now on theyll have preparations completed for a digital world. Everything will be electronic, this will also be the final stage of the end of pax americana.

This everything will happen before 2050

>> No.18282292

>>18280614
This isn't a zombie movie anon.

The only riot you'll see is one over the theft of American wealth by the banks and the forced vaccinations.
When people start to notice how children are different after being vaccinated for this artificial diseass, when they notice that they are sterile...
Shit
Its gonna be a war

>> No.18282298

>>18282144
No one cares about fat people, even if they are family. We're all grown ups. If they want to be disgusting pieces of shit then more power to them and good riddance. We can compare this way because there is no difference. Fat people don't count, and they are a net drain on society. We will recover just as easily as any other country with thin healthy people. If they are concerned they can self isolate, and I will be sure to couch on them should they ever go shopping at the same time as me. I'm not worried because the majority of people in my age group are <35 with a bmi <25. 23 is fat as fuck of course so I'm not making excuses for them, but they are not at particularly high risk here either. It's mostly old people and minorities in America who are fat. Z

>> No.18282305

>>18282157
Here in the US, we're constantly peddling age group stats instead and when talking on preexisting conditions, the discussions seem to focus more specifically on people with treated conditions like cancer. Because we have a bunch of retards over here who dont understand what obesity is in a health context, we have a lot of dumb zoomers thinking they would be another "just a flu" case despite 30% of them being fat lardos with little muscle mass. It's going to be a slaughter compared to other countries if we let it spread as some suggest.

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>>18280340
Don't cut yourself on all those edges, kid. Ruthlessness doesn't give you a superior perspective.

>> No.18282313

>>18282209
well I wasn't talking about America was I? not my fault if your country has given itself to degeneracy

>> No.18282323

>>18282305
Obesity is used to hasten death of certain groups and ensure abuse of goid and drugs needed to survive.

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>>18282292
I don't even know where to start with this post. You're either trolling or handicapped. 3/10, replied.

>> No.18282515

>>18282312
Nothing edgy or ruthless about what I said, quite the opposite actually. Why do you love fat people so much? Do you want to suck the yeast from their folds? If anyone is being edgy it's you because that's gross.

>> No.18282696

>>18279786
It's literally fucking up equador. You know why this is the name of the country?

>> No.18282711

>>18280476
low iq with high iq ideas. read more. you sound dumb as fuck.

>> No.18282724

>>18279545
So thats how it happened

>> No.18282735

>>18280718
https://youtu.be/jRVvMoEoItU

>> No.18282744

>>18279545
yes goy accept the vaccine.

>> No.18282759

>>18281243
>hur dur im a retard who has no idea what im talking about so im just going to call you dumb

Elon Musk's Starlink along with the space force Kills The 5G plan

>> No.18282830

>>18282711
I'm still a good 3 or 4 SD above you in IQ. You should listen to your superiors. Read a bit more, study a few years, maybe then you will be able to contribute meaningfully. Maybe not here, but I see potential in you for bathroom stall graffiti.

>> No.18282868

>>18281968
"Shrugging off" is naive rhetoric. Plenty of young healthy people are kept out of work for weeks, many hospitalized too.

" 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported."

>> No.18282914

>>18282868
>between 20 and 54

That's a pretty large age range. I'm willing to bet the majority of those were over 45.

>> No.18282935

>>18280367
Wow BASED Bill Gates!!! Can't wait to get his poison injection asap!!!!!!

>> No.18282936

>>18282868
Link to the article you lying dishonest piece of shit. I need some context. Comorbidities? We already went over the fat 'people' thing here.

>> No.18282940

>>18282137
>>wtf is this "warm weather" shit theory
>Viruses don't do well in warm weather.
>Which is why flu seasons always peak in winter.

Depends of the virus. Flu viruses are completely different to Corona. Current data shows little evidence to support Corona is affected as much as influenza viruses.

Though, having normal seasonal flu in the population probably increases coughing and sneezing increasing the spread of asymptomatic or pre-symtomatic corona too.

>> No.18282948

>>18280873
Can confirm, we were already avoiding each other as it was, now we just do it with a little more gusto.

Sweden is the perfect culture to resist a pandemic without changing much, except cancelling major sporting events and such.

>> No.18282960

>>18279545
We will go back to normal eventually, not because of the measures governments are bringing in, but because enough people will have been infected.

The more and more people that gain antibodies it will become harder and harder for it to spread, the rate of infection is its weakness not its strength, all governments are doing is helping the virus by delaying herd immunity.

Just letting it pass through the population while protecting the most vulnerable is the best course of action.

>> No.18282983

>>18282348
Hey man do you think Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates will get the vaccine?

>> No.18282988

>>18282940
As far as I know the reasoning is heat means higher humidity so the droplets will fall out of suspension faster. That still leaves surfaces like counters, floors, and doorknob, etc. but less a risk. Don't lick floor VS don't breathe within 2m of a person or even greater distance if actively coughing and sneezing. It's kind of weak but I'll let them have their hopium about the nothing burger virus. End results the same either way, it's a nothing burger.

>> No.18283003

I bet the elites will be the first to get the vaccine because it's so good and you really want it and vaccines are good. The elites will be rushing to get the vaccine themselves and to make all their children get it too. Right? Of course.

>> No.18283073

>>18282988
Heat does not mean higher humidity, depends on the climate. Secondly, this:

“While we may expect modest declines in the contagiousness of [the novel coronavirus] in warmer, wetter weather,” according to Dr. Marc Lipsitch, a Harvard epidemiologist, it is not reasonable to expect these declines alone to slow transmission enough to make a big dent.

At least one peer-reviewed 2013 study goes so far as to suggest the opposite is true -- that extremely humid conditions are associated with the spread of influenza viruses in areas closer to the equator."

>> No.18283074

>>18281202
Cite your fucking sources schizo

>> No.18283079

>>18283003
>I bet the elites will be the first to get the vaccine because it's so good and you really want it and vaccines are good. The elites will be rushing to get the vaccine themselves and to make all their children get it too. Right? Of course.

Uhm, yes actually. Not wrap up that tinfoil and go couch your intestines out so we can have more wealth and space for my children.

>> No.18283136

>>18282024
What the fuck is that and how big is it?

>> No.18283170

>>18281568
what movie is that

>> No.18283183

Isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the whole system if it cant be put on on a break for 3 or so months? A global pandemic is something that everyone knew was going to happen at some point, the fact that the economy is crumbling really highlights some of its flaws

>> No.18283184

>>18282830
Lel anon, don't get salty because we instantly pegged you as a low IQ newfag, go the fuck back to plebbit, also enjoy your ban

>> No.18283217

>>18282988
My apologies for a double post but I couldn't help but point out your idiocy again. Heat does not equal humidity, in fact if you increase sensible heat you decrease relative humidity you fucking brainlet.

>> No.18283231

>>18283073
It will certainly be interesting how it plays out. I just hope we end the bullshit shutdown before things start warming up.
>>18283184
Projecting again. Go back, you don't really get the culture here and you are too stupid to understand the discussions.

>> No.18283246

>>18279545
a) there's a big probability the spread is much bigger than what we think which would make 2nd wave spreads lower and would imply a much smaller mortality rate
b) we know the biggest issue is ppi's/ventilators. if we prepare accordingly, we can have better equipped health services to deal with it, and more testing to allow us to isolate cases to slow even more the spread
c) in less than 1 month we will know what treatments will work better, making recovery quicker, removing strains from the health strains and, once again, slow even more the spread
d) there's 2-3 vaccine already working (this is just a big assumption of mine from what i read about them), and we just waiting it it doesn't kill us in the process.

>> No.18283250

>>18282006
sitting near coughing people? u defo got it bro

>> No.18283257

>>18283217
I can double post too.
Read my post again dipshit. In case you didn't notice, different areas have different climates. I said the reasoning was weak, and it is, but that doesn't stop it from being the reasoning. If anyone should understand that it's you. If you don't believe me check out the humidity in Arizona. An usual you will find I am right and you are wrong.

>> No.18283280

This thread makes me question why I come to 4chan

>> No.18283342
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>>18279545
>Why do people think we're going back to normal after a few weeks or months of lockdowns?

Because everytime someone recovers from the virus, they're immune to it. Meaning less likely to spread. Once a certain level of people get it, it's going to go down. The white houses projection is around mid April. After that we will have reached the inflection point and we'll be going down.

>> No.18283344

>>18282696
dont' worry anon, equador is a shit country, at 2k infecteds their system colapsed

>> No.18283388

>>18280340
You are the only person who feels your life has any value. The way you feel about fat people and boomers is the way everyone else feels about you, you narcissistic cunt. Even the people you think love you. You're just too stupid to realize it.

>> No.18283398

>>18283280
for the OP pic

>> No.18283419

>>18283398
There's only 3 fapable pics in this thread.

>> No.18283431

>>18283388
Not true. Everyone knows on some level that people are not equal, and some lives are worth many times more than other lives. The attractive white millionaire versus the homeless fat nigger covered in shit. The creepy neckbeard vs the pretty young white girl. The burger flipper in her 30s vs the CFP in his late 20s. The random ass Ghanaian vs the random ass Luxembourger. You're just too stupid to realize this.

>> No.18283438

>>18281200
Gold is already a world wide currency. Why would they need to create something when it already exists

>> No.18283447

>>18279545
It's also funny the same people that are blaming people for saying business is normal as usual before shit went down are the same people that are saying business is gonna be back in business very very soon. Have fun fellow church goers! i have my popcorn ready

>> No.18283449

>>18279545
We're all living in a simulation.

For privacy ZANO is a great thing to have.

For decentralized wealth, you can get BTC.

For a decentralized sharing economy, which might be extremely useful for all the coming years, you have OGN.

Not much else we need.

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>>18283419
I can help with that.

>> No.18283603

If you are healthy and have no pre-existing disease 99% chance the coronavirus does nothing to you

No way trump keeps the country locked down past April 30th

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>>18281249
It's a stupid view because it goes against all medical advice, and without a healthy population, the economy will crater ANYWAYS. Trying to get a good economy going with 100k+ deaths is like trying to a farm with infected animals. The longer you stay open and go against medical knowledge the worse your economy will be regardless.

>> No.18283700

>>18283431
The reasons you think one’s life is worth more than the other are subjective, biased by your perspective. An objective observation would be that they all will eventually die anyway, and that there was no purpose or meaning to their lives whatsoever, aside from their own and others’ arbitrary value on them.

>> No.18283751

>>18281249

Because you have no concept of the existential nature of fat tail risks and that an economy that can't endure such a relatively mild shock is going to be annihilated when something truly fearsome rears its head.

Efficiency =/= overoptimization of bubble production

"The economy" is just a magic word you use to dismiss actually thinking about why you keep doing shit

>> No.18283799

>>18280596
all the pictures of "healthy" people I've seen on the media are clearly undiagnosed diabeetus

>> No.18283892

>>18282348
They are pushing for antibody registry already. Already have social media credit scores, so now starts the health part.

>> No.18283915

>>18283799
>The grand mean body mass index (BMI) ofnursessurveyed was 27.2. Almost 54% wereoverweightorobese. Fifty-three percent of thesenursesreport that they areoverweightbut lack the motivation to make lifestyle changes. Forty percent are unable to lose weight despite healthy diet and exercise habits.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227782248_Overweight_and_obesity_in_nurses_advanced_practice_nurses_and_nurse_educators

MUHHH HEROES

>> No.18283952

>>18281111
\Mexico has been prepping to take on America's manufacturing needs. NAFTA 2.0 is designed around this.

>> No.18283953

>>18283631
>It's a stupid view because it goes against all medical advice
What does?

>>18283751
What in the fuck are you babbling about?

>> No.18284131

>>18283915

But I thought they work so hard and they're on their feet all the time, and never stop moving during their daily 36-hour shifts. At least that's what nurses tell me.

>> No.18284136

The virus broke out in November and international air travel was still going strong for multiple months after that. If this were really as contagious and as deadly as they claim, then most of the world would have been in medieval plague like conditions by early February. It's bullshit. Now they're telling us they're making progress on a vaccine. Coronavirus is literally the common cold and people have been looking for a cure for it for generations with no success but now that this happens, we're suddenly less than a year from a cure for the common cold? lol BULLSHIT This gets dumber the longer it goes on.

>> No.18284215

>>18283388
Nope, I disagree. Fat people that are knowingly fat fucking pieces of shit and brush off any medical advice so they can continue to be fat fucking lazy pieces of shit need to be wiped out by this virus. Fat fucks are NOT pretty, they should NOT be the new standard and this will hopefully teach all of them what they preach is fucking stupid. Fuck them.

>> No.18284235

>>18284215
seething wagie

>> No.18284440

>>18284136
cope

>> No.18284451

>>18282261
So stacking crypto was a bad idea?

>> No.18284543

>>18283079
No one who says "uhm" has children, you fucking faggot

>> No.18284571

>>18280367
Bill gates! The guy from product! He so smart!

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>>18284235
disgusting fatso. PUT THAT SCONE DOWN NOW!

>> No.18284651

>>18284451
>>18282261
>>18281200
no buy chainlink

>> No.18284667

>>18284579
*chomp* *munch*

>> No.18284876

>>18279545
It's literally just the flu

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>>18284667
Let's see how snarky you'll be when you'll be dying at 40 you obese motherfucker. I feel bad for the healthccare staff that will have to treat your 400lbs bag of fat you disgutsing cetacean

>> No.18285256

>>18280791
>Yellow. Increases metabolism
>Blue: Most productive color
What? I get the emotion and feel which's carried in the others, but those...?

>> No.18285318

>>18279545
Did you ever get a SARS vaccine? How bout Ebola? I remember the Zika vaccine being- oh wait, never got one of those either. Or swine flu. Or bird flu. Why does everyone want a vaccine?

>> No.18285344

>>18279786
https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/

>> No.18285367

>>18284879
seething plankton cuck

>> No.18285639

>>18282261
>can't source shit

>> No.18285866

>>18280268
Ah the classic idiot who thinks the smart guy is an idiot

>> No.18285937

>>18284451
Its good investment for the short term.

Long term precious metalls

>> No.18285978

>>18279786
It’s SARS not the flu

>> No.18285980

>>18285639
dig deeper

>> No.18285987

>>18279545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias

>> No.18285999

>>18285318
We did get Ebola vaccine. Which is all kinds of amazing, actually.

>> No.18286027

>>18280115
Lmao you are a dumbfuck. It only killed the frail already on their deathbed. This was all a gaint fuckup by leadership. Don’t reply, just accept u were wrong and that u have a lot to learn

>> No.18286048

>>18285978
It's a flu-like common cold.

>>18282940
This virus is related to the common cold, so the exact same applies: they don't do well in warm weather.

>> No.18286076

>>18279545
How many dcred for a secretary?

>> No.18286134

>>18281243
Gas yourself

>> No.18286163

all of the people that want to be lab rats for a few bucks should just let themselves get willingly infected. the rest of us can stay at home and observe from a distance

>> No.18286194

>>18281202
the meds sir

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>> No.18286253

>>18286163
Yes stay home if u want. No one cares if you’re a pussy. Just don’t project your fear on everyone else. Just because we aren’t afraid doesn’t mean we don’t practice general caution. Use your brain. Maybe take a few deep breaths or something. Risk always exists. If you’re sick, rest up. If not, get to work.

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>> No.18286464

Bro how am I going to get a gf with 18 months of social distancing. Please God no I need to fuck

>> No.18286468

>>18286263
>Rants about socialism
>Starts a patreon to beg for money

>> No.18286492

>>18286468
She died of the shanghai shivers you retard

>> No.18286508

>>18286492
Sorry, I meant her family started the patreon.

There's irony there.

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>>18283074
This is a pretty good source:
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/182/Supplement_1/S93/2191642

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>>18283952
but are they really poor enough?

>> No.18287002

>>18282090
>8
But... corporations continue to issue bonds... and likely on the short end... why is this shocking?

>> No.18287064

>>18281042
based

>> No.18287377

>>18283449
what is this shared economy you speak of frend? Sounds like ebay but muh decentralized. They actually made this yet or just another project that will never see the light of day?

>> No.18287927

>>18283453
Source ?

>> No.18288710

>>18279835
>Hyper inflation is inevitable and we will return to a gold standard.
Delusional.
Not this century.

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>>18279545
Because for every confirmed case there are probably 5x or more as may people already infected but their symptoms are so weak they don't even notice or go to the doctor.

In other words, herd immunity will take over eventually. It would happen sooner but we want to slow it down a bit to not overrun our hospitals.

>> No.18288821

>>18286468
being against socialism and then asking for charity doesn't make you a hypocrite retard

it'd be hypocritical if he started demanding the government pay for his wife's healthcare

>> No.18288977

>>18283453
W h o

>> No.18288991

>>18279786
Is this bait? It's summer in Australia right now retard

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Infections and deaths decreasing in Europe. Surely everyone will be back to work by May? Businesses will pick up where they left off and the economy will bounce back in a major way. Doomers have no clue.

>> No.18289610

>>18279835
This

>> No.18289672

>>18279786
This was disproved.

>> No.18289678

>>18288991
>It's summer in Australia right now retard
Anon, Australia plateaud hard already and has a grand total of 30 deaths so far.

It's a very simple fact that viruses do not fare well in hot weather.

>> No.18289698

>>18279835
>The flu is just the pin that popped the bubble.
Stop posting this bullshit over and over in every single fucking thread.

>>18289672
It was not.

>> No.18289702

>>18279835
Kikes will never let that happen.

>> No.18289720

>>18279835
>Hyper inflation is inevitable

Yeah, while we still have the current corporate clowns in congress they will just keep bailing out big companies rather than help the people. over and over and over again.

How many times do you think they will make the printer go brrrrr to save the airline industries? The answer is 'as long as they are allowed to' by the voters.

>gold standard

Not happening.

>> No.18289866

>>18279545

In my experiences, I've found in a very general sense that people would rather just ignore problems and hope they go away. Problems are work, and people dislike exerting effort. If the problem gets worse, they pretend like no one could have foreseen the problem despite plenty of available information and warning signs, and that there was nothing they could have done. People don't want to be responsible for themselves and certainly don't want to be held accountable for their actions or lack of action. They focus on directing or redirecting blame instead of focusing on addressing the problem. Addressing the problem is work, and possibly makes them look bad, whereas redirecting blame makes it not their problem, and they can feel better about themselves and their situation. Redirecting blame allows them to justify that it is not their responsibility and they are not at fault, but more importantly gives them someone to shift the responsibility of actually doing something to someone else. Meanwhile the problem becomes larger. This can become problematic if you enter a feedback loop where you're stuck with a problem that continues to get worse because you're failing to acknowledge key variables keeping you inside the loop where the problem grows larger in size.

>TL;DR People prefer lies coated in sugar over bitter truths + wishful thinking.

>> No.18289892

>>18285367
You're still a fat fuck and you will die early and that will be entirely your fault. Your doctor will still hate his life for having to deal with a landwhale (doctors despise fat fucks, you are the worst patients). The Wu flu was nature's way of culling the weak. Get over it. Fat fucking piece of shit

>> No.18290608

>>18282261
Buying more gold and silver now. You got me with the bit about the jews.

>> No.18290827

>>18281619
>That's what the quarantines/lockdowns/travel bans/... are for: to flatten the curve.
But... aren't you arguing we shouldn't do those things for the sake of the economy? If not then what are you in favor of?

>Tons of people get corona and develop mild to no symptoms.
Yeah and tons of people need hospitalization or they will literally die. Even young and middle aged people. Millions, just in the US. Pretty sure that order of magnitude justifies a significant response. You've deluded yourself if you think otherwise. Nothing else except this point even matters.

>> No.18291375

>>18279786
...the human body itself is 98 degrees, as long as it can get into a host it can keep spreading

>> No.18291524

>>18279786
Does anyone want to hell Anon that the "normal flu" (Influenza) has a year round season in the U.S. and thus spreads even in the summer?

>> No.18291534

>>18279786
It's not the flu retard. SARS isn't the flu. We don't know what will happen

>> No.18291646

>>18280340
Strong agree.

>> No.18291733

>>18281968
>>18281998

Just got laid off. Unionized company and only got two years in.Meanwhile lazy boomer scum with 20/25/30+ years seniority who could take/afford a leave of absence refuse to even cut their hours.

>> No.18292323

Spread the boomer remover like your ass cheeks in a gay BDSM club

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>>18283170
The Matrix Reloaded.

>> No.18293922

I wouldn't want to own rental property in any college town. Colleges are going to be in distance learning mode for the next few years. This means that students who used to rent apartments will now just live at home and learn remotely over the Internet. Lower demand means lower rents and lower property value for all apartments.

>> No.18294099

>>18283170
i've no idea

>> No.18294879

>>18290827
>But... aren't you arguing we shouldn't do those things for the sake of the economy? If not then what are you in favor of?
No, I'm simply asking why people are reacting to this pic: >>18280624
as if those posts are extremely controversial.
Even those posts in that pic do not advocate foregoing quarantine altogether for the sake of the economy.

>Yeah and tons of people need hospitalization or they will literally die.
Not THAT many compared even only to the flu.
Belgium for instance is the 6th-worst in the world in terms of deaths per 1M population; and our ICU capacity only ever got half filled, after 6 days of plateau in terms of hospital admissions.

>> No.18295064

>>18283170
Saw. Don't remember which.

>> No.18296047

>>18279835
Didn't know that Peter Schiff is a weeb.

>> No.18296173

>>18280340
>just a few boomer doctors who actually spent their lives learning and becoming valuable individuals
cope harder edgelord

>> No.18296190

>>18280476
>let’s just damn everyone who gets cancer that isn’t skin cancer
>fuck everyone over 65
>members of our society with actual life experience and professional skillsets are expendable because wagecucks can’t serve food or do wagecucky things.
the future of the economy is fine, tech and whf are great, maybe the “expendable” people are those who can’t survive if they miss a paycheck...

>> No.18296191

>>18282258

expand on that

>> No.18296198

>>18296173
>valuable individuals
back t󠛡o reddit normie

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>>18280701
Nah, dems were calling it serious at a time when Trump, the GOP, and right-wing media were calling them doomers.

Remember Rep Gaetz attending congress in a gas mask to make fun of dems about corona? And then being forced to self-isolate a few days later because he was in contact with a positive?

>> No.18296254

>>18296190
Based.
Everyone I know is still employed.
If the economy goes into a depression because Dave and Stephanie can't flip as many burgers, or give as many haircuts, than this whole thing is just a propped up pony show, which I think we all know is the case anyway.
If we come out the other side with less strip malls and box stores, well...

>> No.18296258

>>18282208
There have been multiple vaccines.

Creating them isn't the hard part, it's
1) making sure they're actually effective in preventing the virus via animal testing (which hasn't even been done yet AFAIK)
and
2) long-term human testing to make sure the vaccine doesn't fuck people up, especially for a vaccine hundreds of millions of people might take.
This is why all the experts are saying a vaccine will take 12-18 months.

>> No.18296281

>>18285318
but there was a swine flu vaccine

>> No.18296566

>>18280420

The hole in your argument is that those safety regulations were agreed to by an elected legislature. I dont remember the vote to destroy the economy to save boomers.

>> No.18296581

>>18279545

>Vaccine
>Against corona

Seriously?

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>>18281271

why are the jews pushing this lie so hard? we have daily data that proves its complete nonsense

>> No.18296625

>>18296224
Mayor of NYC told people to go out and see a movie around that time, both parties were guilty

>> No.18296627

>>18288735
this guy gets it

>> No.18296704

>>18279545
Oh hey Bill Gates

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shit swept through Chicago in jan, I recovered fully in 10 days, wasn't pleasant but food poisoning feels worse than covid. sorry kids but your commie larp will have to go back to throwing trashcans at old people this summer. there will be no apocalypse

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goy-rona virus

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>>18296596
sure buddy, you go buy a lottery ticket with a permanent lung damage consolidation prize and death jackpot

>> No.18296964

>>18280596

>A very small minority, very small, of healthy people have died
>extrapolate that out somehow to act like this flu has no demographic bias

You're a panic stricken bitch, and it absolutely is the fat and old disease if you weren't such a coward and looked at the numbers. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

Educate yourself you fucking asshole. Seriously you and people like you are what's making this so disastrous

>> No.18297137

>>18279835
there's no enough gold to go back on the standard anon. Do the math.

>> No.18297286

>>18281998
>wwaaaaaa waaaaaaa zoom zoom
You're an impotent cuck, you won't do shit but cry and whine on the internet hugbox. This is why nobody is afraid of your retarded wasted generation.

>> No.18297505

>>18286027
Arrest this man for making terroristic comments

>> No.18297574

>>18286027
>This was all a gaint fuckup by leadership
they have entire buildings full of economists, this wasn't a fuck up, 60 countries don't just decide to destroy the economy to protect chronically ill old people.

this was planned and I shit myself each night trying to figure out why

>> No.18297915

>>18297574
>this was planned and I shit myself each night trying to figure out why

The closing of countries was planned because it was a literal lab made pathogen, its the expected reaction.
If you are implying the colapse of economy was planned then let me explain you something, whoever released such disease was putting into movement a bigger scheme.
The collapse of China's control over production of goods (given to them by the west) and paying the debt through hyperinflated petrodollars.
The torn down of anti-vaxxing movements. (ID2020 comming later, fewer people against the idea)
The influenciation of the masses towards better, faster, more reliabale telecomunication systems (5G and its implications)
The repositioning of The West and its (((masters))) back again on the forefront of world domination, in detriment of China.

Dont get me wrong, I dislike China and its governemnt deeply, but at least they see (((them))) for what they are, unlike the cucked west. They just didnt like it anymore and werent taking anymore risks. Now, I am not saying the USA created it, it was obviously China made. What I am saying is that some 3 letter agency perhaps had it released by "accident". That gives explanation to China's calims it is an American virus. Made in China, released by Americans, like everything else made in the past 30 years or so.

>> No.18298034

>>18297915
>lab made pathogen
if I was developing a virus I wouldn't make it just kill the chronically ill and people in their 80s, if it was a man made virus they did a real bad fucking job at it

theres something else going on and youre just being distracted

>> No.18298035

>>18283136
Termite queen, probably 3-4 inches long.

>> No.18298134

>>18280340
Only the weak and decadent disagree with this.

>> No.18298142

>>18279545
I would quarantine my dick in her ass if you catch my drift

>> No.18298225

>>18296596
>underlying health conditions

Hey Joe does a broken toe count as an underlying health condition? I'll put it down anyway, don't want to create a panic.

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>>18298225
kys

>> No.18298422

>>18298281
include but perhaps not limited to. Could be accurate, could be disingenuous phrasing. Get back to me when it says the exhaustive list of underlying conditions is as follows.

>> No.18298750

>>18281202
schizos make me laugh like nothing else

>> No.18298814

>>18280873
>sweden
>socialist
Suede is basically liberal right, but with high taxes, and a social security system,