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[Anonymous No.18206362]

so what's the right economic system- Capitalism or Communism?

[Anonymous No.18206405]

I am not participating in this outdated 20th century LARPfest and neither should any anon responding to this garbage thread

[Anonymous No.18206419]

>>18206405
Critiquing capitalism seems the most actual thing right now

[Anonymous No.18206439]

>>18206362
>economic system
cringe

[Anonymous No.18206459]

>>18206362
What if there was another option that was superior to both of these flawed systems. Some kind of...third position...hmm...

[Anonymous No.18206460]

Something in between

[Anonymous No.18206480]

>>18206362
>Should we strafe left or strafe right?
How about marching forwards?

[Anonymous No.18206483]

>>18206362
I don't care anymore, I just everything to die.

[Anonymous No.18206518]

>>18206362
I don't care anymore, I just need* everything to die.

[Anonymous No.18207211]

>>18206459

SIEG

[Anonymous No.18207261]

>>18206460
that's what we have right now, unironically

[Anonymous No.18207277]

>>18206460
middle of the road policy always slippery slopes into communism, its one or the other.

[Anonymous No.18207284]

>>18206480

[Anonymous No.18207401]

>>18206459
>>18207211
these

[Anonymous No.18207503]

>>18206362
Capitalism is the only way.
the only way you can get shit done is doing it yourself.
government control is needed only for emergencies and life should be for the hustle not the lazy hambones.

[Anonymous No.18207540]

An intelligent government would permit open and free markets to all, while providing for those who are unfortunate and encouraging them to advance. Foreign trade would be permitted, but offshoring and outsourcing business should never be legal. Massive corporations and titanic businesses should be subject to hefty taxes while also being expected to provide for themselves, and risky gambling should never be provided for via socialistic tendencies and bailouts because of the risk of "lost jobs". You build up from the bottom and provide for the bottom, and those that soar and fall are examples of what not to do for others who wish to rise higher.

Capitalism has proven that all it intends to do is provide for those who are the richest to keep the numbers up. Communism has proven that it doesn't have the capacity for growth that would be found in Capitalism. I refuse both and demand Free Market Socialism in earnest.

[Anonymous No.18207623]

>>18206362

The right economic system is the one that produces the best overall results in indicators such as happiness and health. That is a social democracy with capitalistic mechanisms to ensure efficiency and prosperity, right regulation to ensure capitalism serves the needs to the people and strong nationalized health care and infrastructure sector and social security to ensure stability.


>Finland is the most stable country in the world. The Fund for Peace, Fragile States Index 2018

>Finland is the freest country in the world together with Sweden and Norway. Freedom House, Freedom in the World 2018

>Finland is the safest country in the world. World Economic Forum, The Travel & Tourism Competitiveness Report 2017

>Finland is the -best country in the world. The Good Country Index, Results

>Finland has the best governance in the world. Legatum Institute, The Legatum Prosperity Index 2018: Finland

>Finland’s police and internal security as a whole are the second best in the world. The International Police Science Association, World Internal Security and Police Index

>Finland has the least organised crime in the world. World Economic Forum, The Global Competitiveness Report 2018: Organized crime

>Next to Norwegians and Icelanders, Finns feel the second least insecure in the world. Gallup, Law and Order Index 2018

>Finland’s judicial system is the most independent in the world. World Economic Forum, The Global Competitiveness Report 2018: Judicial independence

>After Danes, Finns vote in the freest and most reliable elections. Pippa Norris, Thomas Wynter and Sarah Cameron, Electoral Integrity & Campaign Media: The Electoral Integrity Project 2018 mid-year update (The Electoral Integrity Project, University of Sydney & Harvard University)

[Anonymous No.18207642]

>>18207623
>Finland has the third least corruption in the world. Transparency International, Corruption Perceptions Index 2017

>Finland is the third most prosperous country in the world. Legatum Institute, The Legatum Prosperity Index 2018: Finland

>Protection of property rights in Finland is the best in the world. World Economic Forum (WEF), The Global Competitiveness Report 2018: Property Rights

>Availability of official information in Finland is the best in the EU. Center for data innovation, The State of data innovation in the EU: Freedom of information

>Finnish banks are the soundest in the world. World Economic Forum, The Global Competitiveness Report 2018: Soundness of banks

>Finland’s pension system is the third best in the world. (34 countries in the comparison). Mercer, Melbourne Mercer Global Pension Index 2018

>Finland has the third most personal freedom and choice in the world. The Social Progress Imperative, 2018 Social Progress Index: Finland

>Finland has the fourth best press freedom in the world. Reporters Without Borders, 2018 World Press Freedom Index: Ranking

>After Denmark and Sweden, Finland is the most socially just EU country. D. Schraad-Tischler & C. Schiller: Social Justice in the EU – Index Report 2017 (Bertelsmann Stiftung 2017)

>Among the world’s richest countries, Finland is the third most dedicated to policies that benefit people living in poorer nations. Centre for Global Development, The Commitment to Development Index 2018 (CDI)

>Finland is the best country in the world in a comparison of human wellbeing. Sustainable Society Index, Main results 2016

[Anonymous No.18207678]

>>18206459
Something that made a nation care about its own people above the needs of other nations but wishes those nations well.

[Anonymous No.18207691]

>>18207642
>>18207623

>Finland is the third best country in adhering to the rule of law in the world. The World Justice Project, Rule of Law Index 2017–2018

>Finland is the best country in protecting fundamental human rights in the world.
The World Justice Project, Rule of Law Index 2017–2018

>Finland is the happiest country in the world. Sustainable Development Solutions Network, World Happiness Report 2018

>Finns are the second most satisfied with their life among Europeans. Eurostat, Percentage of the population rating their satisfaction as high, medium or low

>Finns are the most satisfied with their accommodation in the EU. Eurostat, Percentage of the population rating their satisfaction as high, medium or low

>Among EU citizens, Finns are the second most common to have someone to rely on in case of need. Eurostat, Persons having someone to rely on in case of need.

>Finns' trust in the police is the highest and in the political system and in the legal system the second highest in Europe.Eurostat, Average rating of trust

>Finns trust news the most in the world. (37 countries in the comparison).
Reuters Institute, Digital News Report 2018

>Finns' trust in other people is the highest in Europe. European Commission, Fairness, inequality and inter-generational mobility: Social Capital: Trust in people

>In Finland, consumers' confidence in the economy is second strongest in Europe. European Commission, Business and consumer surveys

>Finland is the third most gender equal country in the world. World Economic Forum, Global Gender Gap Index 2017

[Anonymous No.18207711]

>>18206362
Welfare state within a capitalist system.

[Anonymous No.18207721]

>>18206362
Capitalism but with Communism for earnings from natural resources.

[Anonymous No.18207735]

>>18207623
>>18207642
>>18207691
>Participation of genders in working life in Finland is the second most equal in the EU. European Institute for Gender Equality (EIGE), Gender Equality Index 2017: Work / Participation

>Finnish women's gender equality in working life is the fourth best in the world. The Economist, The Glass-Ceiling Index 2018

>In Finland, power is divided between genders the third most equally in the EU.
European Institute for Gender Equality (EIGE), Gender Equality Index 2017: Power

>Finland has the second lowest poverty rate in OECD countries. OECD, Poverty rate

>Finland has the fifth lowest income differences in OECD countries. OECD, Income inequality

>The air in Finland is the cleanest in the world. Finnish Meteorological Institute, Finland tops WHO air quality statistics


>The share of renewable energy of total energy consumption is the second biggest in Finland of EU countries. Eurostat, Share of energy from renewable sources in the EU Member States

>Finland has the most human capital in the world. The Lancet, a systematic analysis of 195 countries and territories, 1990–2016

>Finland ranks as one of the top OECD country in education. OECD, Better Life Index: Education

>Education in Finland answers to future needs the third best in the world. Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) & Yidan Prize, Worldwide Educating for the Future Index

>Finland is placed third in a comparison of lifelong learning in EU countries.
European Commission, European Innovation Scoreboard 2018: Lifelong learning

>Finnish adults are the third best in literacy and numeracy of OECD .
OECD, How's Life? 2017: Measuring Well-being, Education and skills: adult skills

>Finland is the most literate country in the world. J. W. Miller and M. C. McKenna, World's Most Literate Nations: Rank Breakdown

>Finns are the second biggest library users in Europe. The European Bureau of Library, Public Libraries – Statistics

[cunt No.18207740]

>>18206439
Everything is economics retard
If you prim fags think blowing shit up and screeching about "tech no no good" then you can get ready to be locked up like that fucking schizo

[Anonymous No.18207762]

>>18207623
>>18207642
>>18207691
>>18207735
>Finnish children have the fifth most secure childhood in the world. Save the Children, The Many Faces of Exclusion: End of Childhood, Report 2018

>Young people (aged 11 to 15) in Finland are the fourth satisfied with their life among young people in welfare countries. UNICEF, Child Well-being in Rich Countries: A comparative overview

>Finns aged 15 are the third most satisfied with their lives in OECD countries. OECD, PISA 2015 Results, Students’ Well-Being

>Finnish fourth graders' knowledge of science is the second best in OECD countries. M. O. Mullis, I. V. S. Mullis, P. Foy and M. Hooper, TIMSS 2015 International Results in Science

>Finns aged 15 are among OECD countries the second best in literacy and the third best in science. Ministry of Education and Culture, PISA 2015: Finnish youth still at the top despite the drop

>Finland is among the world’s top 25 countries in life expectancy at birth. Differences at the top are small. WHO, Life expectancy

>Mothers' and children's well-being in Finland is the second best in the world. Save the Children, State of the World´s Mothers 2015, 16th annual report

>Finland has the world's third lowest infant mortality rate UN, SDG Indicators, Infant mortality rate

>Maternal mortality is the lowest in the world in Finland together with Greece, Iceland and Poland. WHO, World Health Statistics 2018: Monitoring health for the SDGs

>Finland has the second lowest total mortality from cancer in EU countries. OECD, Health at a Glance: Europe 2018: Mortality from cancer

>Finnish adults are the second least likely to smoke of EU countries. OECD, Health at a Glance: Europe 2018: Adults smoking daily

>Finland's share of actively exercising people is bigger than in any other EU country. Eurostat, How much do Europeans exercise?

>Helsinki is the third best city to live in. (65 cities in the comparison). Metropolis, The Best Cities to Live in (2016)

[Anonymous No.18207788]

>>18207762
>>18207735
>>18207691
>>18207642
>>18207623
>People living in Helsinki have the highest satisfaction with the place where they live, alongside with people living in Stockholm. European Commission, Quality of Life in European Cities 2015

>Helsinki is the second most appealing city in the world for startups. Nestpick, Startup Cities Index

>Helsinki is fifth best in the ability to compete for talented workforce.INSEAD, Global Cities Talent Competitiveness Index 2018 Rankings

>Helsinki is the third best city in terms of technology, innovation and entrepreneurship. (40 cities in the comparison). J. Gibson, M. Robinson & S. Cain, CITIE – City Initiatives for Technology, Innovation and Entrepreneurship (Nesta, Accenture & Catapult 2015)

>Among European cities, Helsinki is the fourth best in supporting digital enterprises and entrepreneurs. Nesta, European Digital City Index 2016

>Of European big cities, Helsinki is the easiest and most pleasant to get around in. (20 cities in the comparison). Politico, Urban Mobility Index

>Helsinki is the most honest city in the world. Readers Digest, Most Honest Cities

>Finland has the most Summer Olympics medals per capita. Medals per Capita, Total Medals per Capita: All Time (Summer)

>The Finnish passport has the third most influence in the world.
Passport Index, Global Passport Power Rank 2018

Imagine what a fucking superpower Finland would be if it had a population of 300 million people

[Anonymous No.18207818]

>>18206362
Remeber anon You don't talk to communist, you shot at him

[Anonymous No.18207819]

>>18206362
National Socialism.

[Anonymous No.18207872]

>>18207788
>Imagine what a fucking superpower Finland would be if it had a population of 300 million people
It would be shit because you can't have a homogenous country with 300 million people.

[Anonymous No.18208005]

>>18206362
Just ban fractional reserve banking. Ban privately owned companies and only allow coops where the employees get equal shares in the company. No capitalism and no communism, still relatively free markets.

[Anonymous No.18208065]

>>18206459
Came here to post this my nigga

[Anonymous No.18208518]

anarco theological primitive feudalism but with gun ownership
apply this to all political system
>if it works on paper, then it works(on paper)

[Anonymous No.18208886]

>>18206362
capitalism is the best system now because it makes life a competition, which is stupid on its own, but intelligence always win, good trumps evil, by far.

communism requires great intelligence in all humans and maybe that will be the thing a millenia from now when robots are slaves and humans do nothing but enjoy life (something you cant do without intelligence)

[Anonymous No.18208996]

>>18208886
Do you mean... Fully automated space communism?

[Anonymous No.18209132]

>>18206362
you see anon *sniff* the only way to pure liberation is communism. *snifffff* *twitch*
Is it actual choice for a poor single mother to CHOOSE between which of their children get to go to school? and the argument to not have children is invalid, because of classism and racism, as most poor people are minority. *sniff*
so the real question is to how the Hegelian switch of opposites will bring us to communism.
you must understand, only those who truly realize to the fullest ideological extent will denounce capatilism, and the only way to do that for an entire society, is *sniff* by doingk the exact opposite of what you think you need to do to enact communism.
You must be as frivelent, racist, and capatalist.
Do not trap yourself in eternal irony, anon.

[Anonymous No.18209183]

>>18208996
at that point it wont be called anything, it will just be the obvious way of life. and if you want to want to fly around in space where nothing living exists instead of the paradise on earth that is up to you lmao

[Anonymous No.18209212]

>>18209183
weeeew space

[Anonymous No.18209213]

>>18206362
>Whichever system oppresses women the most, of course!

[Anonymous No.18209281]

>>18208886
>good trumps evil

evil is pretty generously rewarded in our current system though

[Anonymous No.18209309]

Capitalism
It's not even a contest

[Anonymous No.18209706]

>>18206362
the only one that works.

[Anonymous No.18209772]

>>18206362
The one where women are subjected

[Anonymous No.18209797]

>>18209281
and good is rewarded multitudes more