Unemployment

[Anonymous No.18198110]

So Im fairly young. Weeks ago I worked as a tutor for kids.

I worked part time, 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. Minimum wage. I make roughly about $300- $400 biweekly.

After COVID hit, I was out of a job. Then my boss gave us remote work - same hours same pay.

Then I heard about unemployment and how unemployed get additional $600 PER WEEK.

Today my boss told us if we want to OPT OUT of the work he gave us, we can. But then it’ll be OUR CHOICE thus we aren’t UNEMPLOYED.

How can I get unemployed?

I dont care about this job, it’a very low entry level minimum wage job.

I would much rather get paid $600 per week working on my own things / or doing nothing vs doing work everyday and getting paid way less every two weeks.

I’m in NYC by the way.

[Anonymous No.18198134]

Call the boss repeatedly and dont say anything. Leave a voice mail pretending to talk shot about him to someone. Tell him you wont work with chinks

[Anonymous No.18198167]

>>18198110
You’ll make more in the long run keeping the job.

[Anonymous No.18198168]

>>18198134
So what im understanding is that getting fired is the same thing as getting laid off?

If so thats easy, im just afraid that it’s NOT. Then I’d be out of a job AND cant collect any unemployment

[Anonymous No.18198178]

>>18198167
No I wont. I tutor at a school so this job literally ends in June because school are done by then.

Like I said, this is a low entry minimum wage job.

[Anonymous No.18198183]

You have to lose your job for get fired. Quitting will not get it

[Anonymous No.18198188]

>>18198178
What state do you live in? Some blue states give you UI for bullshit quitting reasons like it’s not the right career path or I’m going back to schoo.

[Anonymous No.18198198]

>>18198183
My boss said my remote work should reflect the hours.

So if I start slacking seriously, and get less pay than before, is it enough?

Or do I have to slack hard enough to get FIRED?

[Anonymous No.18198213]

>>18198198
>>18198188
>New York
Look up your state department for UI. It’ll tell you what you what quitting circumstances will still get you UI. Quit for the right reasons. Don’t fuck up. And if they deny you, appeal.

[Anonymous No.18198219]

>>18198188
I live in NYC

[Anonymous No.18198226]

>>18198219

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#0

You may be eligible for benefits if:
You lost your job due to lack of work
The temporary or seasonal employment ended
Your job was eliminated
There was an involuntary reduction in force
The company downsized or shut down
The company restructured or reorganized
There was a lack of company operating funds/orders
You were out of work for any other business reason that you did not choose or control
Your employer discharged or fired you because you could not meet their performance or production standards, or their qualifications for the job
You may be denied benefits if you:
Were fired because you violated a company policy, rule or procedure, such as absenteeism or insubordination
Quit your job without good cause, such as a compelling personal reason
Are out of work because of a work stoppage (except for lockouts) in the last 14 days that violated an existing collective bargaining agreement where you worked (You need not actually take part in the strike, only be out of work because of it.)

[Anonymous No.18198228]

>>18198213
What would be the “right reasons”

I want to make sure because i can be a retard sometimes.

$600 per week until July 31st is a lot of money for someone young like me living with my parents.

I dont want to fuck this up

[Anonymous No.18198234]

>>18198219
>>18198226
Put 2 and 2 together anon

[Anonymous No.18198238]

>>18198110
I made $200 a week in my job... Do I qualify for $600 Trumpbux?

[Anonymous No.18198247]

>>18198234
>Your employer discharged or fired you because you could not meet their performance or production standards, or their qualifications for the job

So if I start slacking and do shitty job on my remote work, this is my ticket way out correct??

[Anonymous No.18198266]

>>18198247
Look around that website they’ll probably have more specific reasons outlined, I’m not doing research without a commission.
BUT your employer has a small financial incentive to dispute your claims, or your boss might be too lazy to.
If you get denied afterwards you could pay a 30% penalty. No reward without risk. But I recommend you appeal it if you do get denied. The administrative law judges usually rule in favor of the claimant.
Look up the specific rules not just the FAQ.

[Anonymous No.18198280]

More importantly did you work long enough to qualify? The website should explain how eligibility works.

[Anonymous No.18198300]

>>18198280
I think I should be, I started in September when the public school year started.

But ofc I will double check.

The issue Im facing is that boss refuses to lay us off and made it CLEAR putting emphasis on words like OPT OUT, CHOICE etc that if we quit we wont get unemployment.

[Anonymous No.18198338]

>>18198300
He’s a dick but nonetheless I encourage you not to be an immoral cunt. If you do a shitty job in an effort to get fired you’re really just screwing over your students and their parents who have nothing to do with this particular issue. The website cited “compelling personal reasons” look up the definition of personal reasons (this is a bureaucracy it should be defined somewhere). Find an out for you to quit whether it’s enrolling in summer school or some bullshit about how the job isn’t the professional direction you want to go in.
Have a little integrity over quitting and getting UI rather than be a slacker who punishes your students.

[Anonymous No.18198374]

>>18198338
>some bullshit about how the job isn’t the professional direction you want to go in.

Thats enough? Thats strange that personal reason like that is enough.

> Have a little integrity over quitting and getting UI rather than be a slacker who punishes your students.

I want to clarify this company is a non-profit and they been giving us online excel work for work on. We stopped tutoring students.

So Im not really screwing over the students

[Anonymous No.18198376]

>>18198110
I recognize that 600

Merrill Edge will give you $600 for investing a whopping $200k with them. What a fucking scam of a "promotion"

[Anonymous No.18198409]

>>18198374
In California it is, but I dont know New York. That’s why you need to look up the rules.
Your boss sounds like a prick. It is possible he will dispute your claims by saying you were insubordinate rather than inadequate. You can try doing it your way and you might succeed, but if you find their list of valid reasons to quit (sometimes it’s by statute or regulatory code) he will have no counter argument, unlike your planned performance firing route. But you can go for it either way.

[Anonymous No.18198426]

>>18198168
Holy shit same here. I’m gonna end my tutor in April and I won’t be able to apply for my insurrance wtf

[Anonymous No.18198446]

>>18198409
My boss is either a prick or his niceness screwed us.

My coworkers are younger in age like me. So when work stopped, I believe my boss just wanted us to work on something anything so we can continue to get paid during this troubling time.

Problem is that his niceness somehow screwed me.

Thats what I thought. Now Im not sure if he was being nice from the beginning at all, because he really did put emphasis on the OPT OUT and QUIT phrase.

I would like to clarify my boss doesnt pay me himself as this is a nonprofit

[Anonymous No.18198483]

Prior my job was showing up PHYSICALLY and tutoring kids.

Now my job is remote, working on excel sheets.

Im thinking I can argue that I have trouble doing remote work etc

[Anonymous No.18198564]

Is saying my computer stopped working, i cant afford a new one a compelling reason

[Anonymous No.18198608]

>>18198228
You can’t quit your job and get unemployment in California. Have to be laid off (like people were because of the quarantine orders) or fired

[Anonymous No.18198812]

>>18198608
Fired due to poor work is good?

[Anonymous No.18198826]

>>18198608
That’s not true. You can quit for the right reasons, but not any reason.
>>18198446
Maybe you should talk to him upfront and ask to be laid off.

[Anonymous No.18198871]

>>18198826
>Maybe you should talk to him upfront and ask to be laid off.

I thought about that.

The only thing stopping me is that I’m afraid that he’ll use that against me and deny my unemployment.

And hey dude, thanks for all the replies in this thread so far. You’ve been a great help

[Anonymous No.18198884]

>>18198110
where do I apply for the gibs? I work retail and they cut hours p bad?

[Anonymous No.18199062]

>>18198110
On a related note can I get unemployment if I stop staking my Kleros? I put it as a job in my taxes

[Anonymous No.18199257]

>>18198884
You can claim unemployment for reduced hours.

[Anonymous No.18199393]

>>18199257
Im getting paid biweekly of 30 hours (3 hours a day 5 days) at $15

So if i get paid less than usual due to poor work, does that count as reduced hours?

[Anonymous No.18199688]

>>18199257
This is my situation. My main job gradually has cut my hours from full time, to one day every two weeks, my other part time job is seasonal summer job.

[Anonymous No.18199909]

>>18199688
Did you file for unemployment? You getting the full $600?

[Anonymous No.18201067]

Anyone think it’ll go pass july 31st?

[Anonymous No.18201159]

New York - good luck getting through the unemployment line.

[Anonymous No.18201161]

>>18198483
Sounds solid

[Anonymous No.18201826]

>>18201159
What do you mean? Is there a big queue?

How long is the wait?

[Anonymous No.18203759]

>>18198871
Say you need to care for a relative