/XMR/ MONERO GENERAL

[Anonymous No.18126214]

>he didn't listen when the only fungible cryptocurrency with an actual use case was only $50 a coin

[Anonymous No.18126298]

>>18126214
Zcoin

[Anonymous No.18126354]

>>18126214
I am 100% balls deep into Monero. Playing the long game familam

[Anonymous No.18126366]

>>18126298
>optional privacy

lmfao.

[Anonymous No.18126479]

>XMR
>Only fungible crypto
>Actual use case


>Actual use case

mfw you're actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.18126710]

>>18126479
Monero is growing in use on the dark net because it can't be traced.
Don't believe me? Then why has monero showng long term fundamental growth, contrary to pnd scams that are peddled in the cryptosphere?

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactions.html

[Anonymous No.18126820]

>>18126710
>>18126479
Or, alternatively, download TOR and check out

https://dark.fail/empire

[Anonymous No.18127164]

>>18126479

Dude, it is the only privacy coin widely used on the darkweb.

[Anonymous No.18127204]

>>18126710
>>18126820
>>18127164
That's an illegal use case

[Anonymous No.18127336]

>>18127204
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18127366]

>>18126366
We just repeating buzzwords at this point?

[Anonymous No.18127403]

>>18127204

[Anonymous No.18127601]

>>18126214
XMR #1

[Anonymous No.18127705]

>>18127336
>>18127403
That means there won't be mass adoption

[Anonymous No.18127847]

>>18127705
Not only that but if monero becomes illegal, which is likely to happen once boomers in governments start to understand what's happening, then nobody will want it.
Mine to is only valuable because it can be easily traded with cold hard cash, when this is out of the table who would take it as payment?

[Anonymous No.18127920]

Monero is legit, unfortunately some scammers are promoting scam coins that are clones of Monero and unfortunately I bought the scam.
Fuck you SAFEX scammers,
Don't buy that SAFEX scam

[Anonymous No.18128085]

>>18126214
>xmr cpu mining by botnets making it the most decentralized crypto
>botnet mining means uncensorable wrt legal staus
>botnet means sell pressure directly proportional to coin emission
>coin emission cratering from now through 2023

Were gonna be so fucking rich

[Anonymous No.18128175]

>>18126214
21 club.

[Anonymous No.18128399]

>>18126214
Have you checked out the XMR fork Haven Protocol / $XHV?

They are working to implement xUSD which will be the first private stable coin on the market.

Once xUSD is done, they will start to work on xGold, xBTC, xSilver, and other fiat currencies.

They are the first XMR based project to partner with chainlink for oracle services.

Coin only has a $3M market cap currently. Only 25 cents a coin.

xUSD mainnet is around the corner. Currently on testnet.

Current market cap of stable coins is around $7B. xUSD is going to make a big splash.

Links:

https://medium.com/@havencurrency/haven-xusd-stagenet-testing-update-and-market-volatility-analysis-ad81b211d238

https://medium.com/@havencurrency/haven-integrates-chainlink-to-further-its-mission-of-enabling-private-decentralized-finance-28fce90b3797

https://medium.com/@havencurrency/haven-launches-xusd-stagenet-utilizing-chainlink-oracle-f77b68691e1c

[Anonymous No.18128444]

>>18128399
http://docs.havenprotocol.org/whitepapers/english.pdf

Available on Bittrex.

[Anonymous No.18128693]

>>18128444
>>18128399
I'm aware. I used to hold some on tradeogre. Joined the discord and realized it was a shitcoin. No leadership, poor white paper, and abysmal volume. Monero is better in every imaginable way.

[Anonymous No.18128697]

is this a good price to buy monero?

[Anonymous No.18128729]

>>18127847
>because monero is "illegal" in x country means it will be illegal every where
>doesn't know what the streisand effect is
>thinks you can ban a cryptocurrency
>doesn't realize that governments will invest heavily in it to move illicit funds

kek

[Anonymous No.18128825]

>>18126214
XMR is unironically the next big cryptocurrency. Who cares about a prenup? Buy XMR

[Anonymous No.18128866]

>>18128175
Rookie numbers, got to at least double that.

[Anonymous No.18128869]

>>18128825
now?

[Anonymous No.18128948]

>>18128869
I can tell you are new to crypto. It doesn't matter if you buy it at 20$ or 80$. Just buy it and hold it. The gains you will get compared to figuring out the optimal time to buy will pale in comparison to the long term gains. Having XMR in of itself is literally useful

[Anonymous No.18128949]

>>18128866
Working on getting 100.

[Anonymous No.18128970]

>>18128693
>>18128693
How long ago was this?

The old dev abandoned the project and the new dev team has been killing it.

[Anonymous No.18129002]

>>18128869

I would. https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-xmr-quietly-gains-995-as-bitcoin-price-consolidates/amp

[Anonymous No.18129105]

>>18126214
>USD collapses
>Cryptos become mainstream and XMR becomes big as its the only truly anonymous by default crypto
>US can no longer put sanctions on bad goy nations like Iran and Syria because people can just use Moneros to do business with them

XMR was literally created to end Rothschilds.

[Anonymous No.18129181]

>>18128948
>>18129002
thanks anons
i find it difficult to figure out when a good time to buy is, but if you both say so then i'm sure it is

[Anonymous No.18129217]

>>18129105
and if USD doesn't collapse?

[Anonymous No.18129236]

>>18129105
Shit up you neckbeard Aaron. Nobody believes your red headed ass.

[Anonymous No.18129249]

bitcoin is kike trojan horse for future digital safe haven asset. XMR is unironically the best form of money in the history of humanity. buy now before you cannot even afford 1 XMR

[Anonymous No.18129252]

sorry for being a retard but which wallets do you monero hodlers recommend?

[Anonymous No.18129251]

>>18129217
Collapse is inevitable. Not now but 10-20 years from now.

[Anonymous No.18129260]

>>18129217
It's more likely that oppressed countries will begin using monero to get around overregulation in the future, especially with money going completely digital soon.

[Anonymous No.18129265]

>>18129252
I use the official gui one on my pc. There's some other good ones for phones.

[Anonymous No.18129286]

>>18129252

if you can read: official CLI wallet
mobile: cake wallet

[Anonymous No.18129293]

>>18129252
https://web.getmonero.org/downloads/

the gui is very nice.

[Anonymous No.18129295]

>>18129105

>completely delusional bullshit

XMR will never be as big as you CHUDs think.

[Anonymous No.18129315]

>>18129295
Says the Linklet

[Anonymous No.18129328]

>>18129295
t.

[Anonymous No.18129337]

>>18129293
>>18129286
>>18129265
thanks a lot <3
i hope you all have a great day today

[Anonymous No.18129343]

>>18129295
Screenshotted. See you in three years.

[Anonymous No.18129377]

>>18129337
no problem, and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I make these monero generals every so often.

[Anonymous No.18129418]

>TFW only got <15 monero.

At least I can dream.

[Anonymous No.18129495]

>>18129418
Budget money every month and put a little aside to DCA. Don't worry Anon, you are going to make it.

[Anonymous No.18129644]

>>18129418
Well...having around 15 bitcoin is a shitload of money.

[Anonymous No.18129706]

>>18129105
If the USD collapsed the world is fucked beyond belief

[Anonymous No.18129734]

>>18129706
LOL no it won't. There will be instability initially, but chaos will lead to new order where crypto rules unless the internet itself is nuked.

[Anonymous No.18129913]

none's actually using it

[Anonymous No.18130007]

>>18129913
nigger faggot

[Anonymous No.18130144]

>>18129105
Literally all it takes is for one small country to collapse, it doesn't need to be the USD.

[Anonymous No.18130150]

The mistake Satoshi made with bitcoin was that the privacy is shit. If you go through the whitepaper, in the part titled "10. Privacy" he pretty much recognizes this.

Read it for yourself: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

With Monero, many problems are fixed that are fucked with bitcoin and are unlikely to get changed.

[Anonymous No.18130207]

Is XMR actually scalable and capable of being used as a real currency unlike BTC?

[Anonymous No.18130219]

>>18130007

Fucking lol. Where is XMR when you add actual cryptos to that chart?

[Anonymous No.18130244]

>>18130219
>spamming weather data

[Anonymous No.18130267]

>>18130219
>Btcsv

[Anonymous No.18130435]

>>18130219
How about you compare Monero and Zcash, which is the second most popular privacy coin. What is the difference? Privacy is the upcoming battlefield for cryptocurrency, and if you don't believe, you should spend some time educating yourself on fungibility and kyc/aml regs.

also, you are also only zoomed in 2019. Why don't you pull it back in the long term. And then tell me which cryptos have shown long term fundamental growth, and which coins are just riding pump and dumps.

[Anonymous No.18130537]

Does Monero scale? It seems like encryption comes at a cost

[Anonymous No.18130539]

>>18130150
On top of fixing all of Bitcoin's inherent privacy issues, Monero also resolves the block size debate with its dynamic block size algorithm.

[Anonymous No.18130596]

>>18130537
Bulletproofs have brought down the transaction size significantly. The dynamic block size also allows it to scale better than Bitcoin and its shitforks.

[Anonymous No.18130713]

>>18130537
Bulletproofs and pruning have been implemented over the past few years, and dynamic block size means monero will be adaptable in the future to innovations. Currently there are several proposals at the next ring signature update, each of them increasing the ring sig size while also lowering the transaction size. Keep in mind that Monero also benefits from it's tail emission, which incentivizes miners to continue running the network over time.

You also have potential second layer solutions with Tari.

[Anonymous No.18130759]

>>18127366
no, it is a very valid concern: if only people opt in to privacy, then it will bring additional scrutiny to private transactions compared to transparent ones. after all, what do they have to hide?
compare this to something that is fungible by default, like cash or gold - privacy is baked in at the protocol layer.
you will look back on 2020 as the year you could have bought monero for 2 figures. trust me.

[Anonymous No.18130800]

>>18129418
imagine complaining about owning 10-12 bitcoins today? that is your future anon. don't worry.

[Anonymous No.18130854]

>>18128825
This

[Anonymous No.18130865]

>>18130800
But 10 Bitcoin is also only 60k
And apart from that: Monero's chart does not really look that good.
Why would XMR go up that much.
You guys are speculating that everybody will use and need private transactions

[Anonymous No.18130934]

>>18130759
This.

[Anonymous No.18130950]

>>18130865
Everybody will use and need private transactions just like everybody uses and needs SSL/TLS.

[Anonymous No.18130956]

>>18130713
that's literally a man

[Anonymous No.18130966]

>>18130865
Are you telling me you would hate having $66,000 right now?

[Anonymous No.18130987]

>>18127847
>if X becomes illegal, then nobody will want it
this has never happened in the history of laws. why do you think black markets exist?

[Anonymous No.18131008]

>>18129706
why? China would be fine

[Anonymous No.18131022]

>>18130759
The anonymity set for Zcoin is so large that the non-private transactions don't compromise security. It wouldn't work with monero because the anonymity set is low.

[Anonymous No.18131042]

>>18130865
>Why would BTC go up that much.
>You guys are speculating that everybody will use and need private transactions
t. 2011 fags

[Anonymous No.18131083]

xmr is a cia bait stay away from it

[Anonymous No.18131094]

>>18126214
I see it the same way. It is the only coin that has proven to have a real purpose and usage scenario. Plus it has proven over time that it works. Regulation might come but there are already even in my retarded city offline sellers available.

[Anonymous No.18131106]

>>18127705
big hint: btc will never see mass adoption; there is no reason to use cryptocurrency instead of legacy payment processors for legitimate commerce; no one will give up consumer protections (charge back, insurance against fraud/identity theft) for pseudonymous "internet money;" xmr or another completely fungible privacy token is the only coin with a future

[Anonymous No.18131121]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXNcIqP_2JQ

.

[Anonymous No.18131129]

>>18130865
>And apart from that: Monero's chart does not really look that good.

What chart are you talking about? The monero daily transaction chart is extremely bullish, as it is the only crypto which has shown actual long term growth. The community has grown, the innovative tech has grown, and the use case is growing. As already mentioned, people are buying it to actually use it on the dark net, and over time other use cases will increase as cryptos increase in popularity. Why do you think Monero has been actually holding steady during this downturn vs other cryptos? It's because people actually rely on it to purchase illicit goods. Just like how bitcoin first got started with the Dark net because of it's use case, Monero is now starting to show its power.

Consider this: Many countries around the world are going towards cashless economies? Tell me anon, what benefit would it be to have a means of value that can't be traced? Would somebody in an oppressive regime want to receive monero anonymously for a sale of goods, where they won't be (((taxed))), or would they prefer to have the government monitor everything?

[Anonymous No.18131131]

>>18130713
Who dat? Asking for a southern friend.

[Anonymous No.18131180]

>>18130950
>Everybody will use and need private transactions
Everybody will fuck cows in the future. Fucking give me an argument. Most people do not even know what Ethereum is. Not even speaking about the extremly small percentage which bought crypto. So why would anybody suddenly start buying?
Even if we get some gay digital cash: sheeps will be sheeps. They will follow the system and do what they got told, because normies are retarded

>>18130966
>Are you telling me you would hate having $66,000 right now?
No, not saying that. And I also think that Monero will appreciate in value. But I do not see that big of a demand for the reasons I just mentioned to the other anon.
Not trying to shill of meme now: But stuff like LINK which is needed seems to be a better investment to me if we look at the potential gains. I mean people have to buy Monero so that the price rises. But normies are dumb and scared and don't know shit. Literally the other day some retard here sent BTC from Coinbase to a darknet market and posted here that his account got banned. The absolute state.

[Anonymous No.18131199]

>>18131083
proof?

[Anonymous No.18131225]

>>18131022
https://explorer.zcha.in/statistics/values
get rekt glownigger.

[Anonymous No.18131514]

>>18131180
>avoiding taxation in transactions
>stashing money that can't be found (e.g. a virtual swiss bank)
>safety from opressive regimes
>ability to purchase things from other individuals with confidentiality
>you are your own bank. nobody knows how much monero you have and you don't know how much monero somebody else has
>all the benefits of decentralized crypto with the added benefit of the tail emission

this is why monero will appreciate in value compared to other scamcoins. This is a long term prediction anon, make no mistake, but cryptocurrencies will only continue to gain in popularity.

>>18130956
kill yourself. naomi wu is our queen.

[Anonymous No.18131528]

>>18131225
>Talk about zcoin
>posts info on zcash

anon...

[Anonymous No.18131602]

>>18126214
why is nobody in xmr anyway? i only ever use xmr to pay for anything lol bitcoin is useless and so is public ledger. xmr is THE cryptocurrency.

[Anonymous No.18131644]

>>18126710

Bcash has more transactions

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-bch-xmr.html

kek

[Anonymous No.18131674]

>>18131602
People haven't realized that xmr.to lets you spend XMR pretty much anywhere you can spend BTC.

[Anonymous No.18131720]

>>18131644

Even Litecoin has more

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-ltc-xmr.html

lmao

[Anonymous No.18131747]

>>18131720

Ofmg even doge has more

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-xmr-doge.html

[Anonymous No.18131849]

>>18131528
the funny thing is that even though I made a mistake, the actual rate for zcoin is likely similar because it requires trusted set ups. Nobody uses Zcoin on the dark net for the same reason nobody uses Zcash on the dark net.
And saying the anon set of Monero is "so low" is beyond fucking retarded, considering all 10k transactions they are having every day are untraceable.


>>18131644
>>18131720
Who cares? The are both pointless alts of Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.18131894]

>>18131022
orgs/fags will demand u send them shit publicly. which is why you cant give anyone the choice of optional privacy. either private tx or fuck off back to btc (male)

[Anonymous No.18132016]

>>18131849
>Who cares? The are both pointless alts of Bitcoin.

EXACTLY .. even THEY have more transactions

LOL

[Anonymous No.18132054]

Fungibility should be in every digital currency. Monero is best and most fungible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXCJv0YRTY

[Anonymous No.18132073]

>>18132016
Yeah man, continue following the herd instead of understanding the long term implications of a comparatively cheap cryptocurrency that is far more powerful and can skirt tax law. Thanks for not doing research and keeping the price low :)

[Anonymous No.18132115]

>>18132073
oh and everyone reading this should understand that I think everyone should pay their taxes. I love uncle sam :)

[Anonymous No.18132891]

>>18132016
imagine thinking that XMR has less trackable transactions is a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.18134129]

>>18127705
they said the same about btc and the silk road retard

[Anonymous No.18134877]

>>18128729
>>18130987
Monero is not a drug, it's a mean of payment without intrinsic value. If it becomes illegal and therefore can't be traded for real cash, who the fuck would accept it? What an online drug seller is supposed to do with his monero?

[Anonymous No.18134909]

>>18134129
BTC isn't illegal and there's no reason to think it ever will be.

[Anonymous No.18134933]

>>18134909
if you think ((they)) will allow bitcoin to reach past its ath youre naive

[Anonymous No.18135565]

>>18132115
taxes are great! in my country we get them in paper form and there's an enormous amount codes for various things :)
i filled it in with my dad last time, it was like a family board game!

[Anonymous No.18135842]

>>18126214
Redpill me on fluffypony

[Anonymous No.18135874]

>>18134877
fiat is just paper anon. It's value is given to it because of faith in the economy. likewise, monero's value is in the code, the people who support and use it, it's fungibility, and it's decentralized structure (which is the goal of a uncensorable form of cash).
if it becomes 'illegal', then the people that accept it are other people who have monero. cocaine is illegal, but people still use it on a massive scale. In fact, the worldwide black market trade is massive. But Monero being illegal in one country doesn't mean it is automatically illegal in all the other countries. As I said before, these same criticisms were applied to Bitcoin.
An individual who has monero can swap it using decentralized exchanges if they are unable to cash out. These are already becoming more widespread and user friendly. Or they can just use Monero to purchase goods through the internet. There are many vendors that accept Monero.
And lastly, how can one "ban" a cryptocurrency. It is a constitutional issue believe it or not, similar to encryption. As long as you are being a good goy and reporting taxes, the governments can't be bothered to care about crypto, and Monero is included in that.

[Anonymous No.18135896]

>>18135874
this but also as a layman i think that the bitcoin or monero police confiscate are nice little bonuses to their budgets that they wouldn't want to part with anytime soon

[Anonymous No.18135903]

>>18126820
Reported to the Authorities

Enjoy your van

[Anonymous No.18135914]

>>18132891
The point of the argument was transactions, not trackability

Imagine thinking your coin is used more than the shittiest of alts /s

LOL

[Anonymous No.18135936]

>>18135874
oh and to add to this, is using utorrent illegal? Absolutely not. But can it be used for illegal things? Yes, and the feds can and will prosecute you for this.
As of right now, Fluffypony is actually working with a legal team to write an overview of how monero abides by the kyc/aml regulations to satisfy concerns of onramps. That should be coming out shortly and should have a positive effect on it's value.

[Anonymous No.18136028]

>>18135914
>/s
go back to plebbit niggerfaggot

[Anonymous No.18136087]

Confirmed. Pump starts at 50.98 USD. Let's get it.

[Anonymous No.18136092]

>>18136028
>go back to plebbit niggerfaggot

seething :D

[Anonymous No.18136247]

>>18136087

Yeah come on guys , prove me wrong and pump this piece of shit !!

Play you like a fiddle

[Anonymous No.18136830]

>>18126214

Why can't i withdraw this motherfucker from binance?

[Anonymous No.18137114]

Is 5 monero enough to make it?

[Anonymous No.18137128]

>>18126214
Imagine still trusting Monero when Zano is right here.

[Anonymous No.18137186]

>>18137128
Zano is dead as fuck.

[Anonymous No.18137241]

>>18126214
it's unironically still 50 a coin.

[Anonymous No.18137349]

This shitcoin is overvalued as fuck. Just opened another 10x short

[Anonymous No.18137708]

>>18137186
Unlucky you can't see the truth, gl with your monero scam

[Anonymous No.18137857]

do you people expect the price to go lower on monday by the way? i got a few monero now but it'd be good to know

[Anonymous No.18137907]

>>18137349
Post screen
Need to commme

[Anonymous No.18137964]

>>18126214
You guys are pumping and dumping dead shitcoins now? Jesus how desperate are you?

[Anonymous No.18138379]

>>18137964
>dead
???

[Anonymous No.18138486]

>>18137964
>$150-200 million daily volume
>Dead

At least try.

[Anonymous No.18139021]

>>18126820
Empire market is dead. Monopoly is the new one with direct deals to prevent another exit scam.

[Anonymous No.18139125]

>>18139021
what? empire is already exit scammed?

[Anonymous No.18140355]

>>18138379
Yes, dead.

>>18138486
Not real volume.

[Anonymous No.18140439]

>>18140355
Yeah it’s sure dead despite how it’s already been demonstrated that it’s the only crypto that has actually shown positive growth over the long term. Boring troll who doesn’t have facts and just says no instead of posting anything data.

[Anonymous No.18141125]

>>18139125
>>18139021
Alphabay getting taken down was a lot like Kick Ass Torrents getting taken down. Everything has been more fragmented, harder, and shittier ever since. People who really care manage to cope but as a casual I cbf keeping up with it.

Drug markets was just Monero's introduction though. It will keep functioning there but there will be some big new usecase that will take the price to another level.

[Anonymous No.18141311]

>>18139125
No, it's just down all the time because of faggots ddosing and the fact that tor is fundamentally weak to ddos attacks

>>18141125
Silk Road (the original, not the faggots riding the name to this day) and AlphaBay were peak darknet markets. It's all downhill from here until a project that's like OpenBazaar but less shitty comes along

[Anonymous No.18141348]

>>18141125
>>18141311
Whitehouse market is based and exclusively monero.

[Anonymous No.18141661]

>>18141348
Have the onion link?

[Anonymous No.18141697]

i want to buy monero but in my shithole country it's $75

[Anonymous No.18141721]

>>18141697
what country is that?

[Anonymous No.18141763]

>>18141721
the chinese republic of australia

[Anonymous No.18141917]

>>18141661
Check https://dark.fail/

[Anonymous No.18142479]

>>18135874
>fiat is just paper anon. It's value is given to it because of faith in the economy.
It has value because it is enforced by the government, nothing else.

But I'll admit your argument about monero still being on decentralized exchange that would keep monero despite the ban convince me, indeed as long as their is an easy enough way to cash out monero in cash then it can still have value.

The rest of your arguments are very weak tho even if your conclusion is right, work on that

[Anonymous No.18142530]

>>18142479
>easy enough way to cash out monero in cash

No the idea is crypto's are cash

There should eventually be NO REASON & NOTHING to cash out to

moron

[Anonymous No.18142649]

>>18142530
It might happen one day but for that you need a long time of it being reliably tradable for cash.

Keep in mind that cryptos don't have intrinsic value, as they can not be used in any other way than by being traded for things with actual value if you catch my drift.

Paper surely is more practical than gold, but to convince people that paper could worth gold by itself, they have needed centuries of cohabitation betwin gold money and paper money, then decades of paper money with good standard, and then again when it wasn't possible to trade gold for money they needed to force people to still use paper.

Cryptos might kill fiat but if it happen it will be a very long road.

[Anonymous No.18142695]

>>18141697
>>18141763
No it's $45 just like everywhere else. It's $75 in your monopoly money currency deadshit.

[Anonymous No.18143001]

>saw this thread earlier today
>bought at 51

I'm still gonna make it r..right guys

[Anonymous No.18143081]

>>18142479
You still thinking in old paradigm ignorant faggot. Crypto is "cash" a better form of cash. In 10 years your concerns here will look so silly.

[Anonymous No.18143140]

>>18142649
God damn you are some ignorant fool. When I will do something stupid in my life I will think about this comment just to feel better. In centuries where gold was transiting to paper, a letter from France to England was delivered in one month. Communication was limited of your 5-10 people in your nearby vicinity. News about other places were happening very rarely, and people have a very limited understanding about everything that wasn't their village.

You literally compare internet time with those times.