[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/biz/ - Business & Finance


View post   

File: 208 KB, 750x755, FF08ED7B-347C-42CE-944A-255D7FB0BD6D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18107920 No.18107920 [Reply] [Original]

Is this a bull rally or dead cat bounce?

>> No.18107944

DUDE nobody is working. wtf do you think my nigga?

>> No.18107988

>>18107920
These analysts are completely disconneted from reality. Nobody is working, nobody is consuming, everything is closed
Just wait for the companies balances, kek

>> No.18107994

>>18107920
It’s a dead kike bounce

>> No.18107996

>>18107920
I put my trust in this female writer for Bloomberg news. Just bought 100k shares.

>> No.18107999 [DELETED] 

>>18107944
literally does not matter
everyone will be back to work in no time and the greatest economy ever will be back.... under budget and ahead of schedule
thank you based God Emperor

dem faggot cucks like you are absolutely seething that Trump pulled off another economic miracle

>> No.18108000
File: 15 KB, 720x482, 12756545313.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108000

>>18107920

>> No.18108003

>>18107920
who writes this shit? Dead cat bounce if I've ever seen one.

>> No.18108060

>>18107988
>not realizing why they say shit like this

>> No.18108069

>>18108000
Trips of truth. We are "returning to normal."

>> No.18108072
File: 26 KB, 400x400, 05C7E9B0-D042-46FF-9D4B-7164D055221C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108072

Got my cap on fren

>> No.18108087

>>18107994
lmfao based

>> No.18108106

>>18108003
>who writes this shit?

>Sarah

>> No.18108111

>>18107920
Literally all signs hinting at a bull trap. You have to be on some military grade hopium to really think that we are out of the woods.

>> No.18108112

>>18107920
It’s the onset of a hyperinflationary episode

>> No.18108121

>>18107920

Brrrr, brrr, brrr, infinite moneys,

>> No.18108130

>>18107944
It's going up cuz brrrr

>> No.18108194
File: 28 KB, 400x400, AF839140-FD40-4E14-9EA4-8137F7EF43F1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108194

>>18108106

>> No.18108203

>>18108060
So they can open their shorts higher?

>> No.18108227

>>18108194
that is a beautiful woman.

>> No.18108233

>>18108000
>>18108111
Bull trap checked

>> No.18108250

>>18107920

1. the FED is purchasing billions of dollars worth of equities right now.
2. various pensions, sovereign wealth funds, etc. are "forced" buyers, meaning they are required by rules or regulations to have a certain amount of their portfolio in equities. They sold before or during the crash to preserve capital and now have to purchase stocks to meet their legal requirements.

Liquidity is absolutely terrible right now. It is basically just whales moving the stock prices up right now.

>> No.18108255

>>18107994

>>/pol/

>> No.18108286

>>18107994
Underrated

>> No.18108288

Disbelief in the macro mega bull. zoom out

>> No.18108308

>>18107920
If the medias are talking about the end of the bear, that's probably a cat

>> No.18108312

>>18107944
>DUDE nobody is working.
spotted the brainlet.. the government makes the money, there are no reason to work at all.
The sad thing was that it took a pandemic before the government realized that the whole work for pay thing was stupid to begin with, and we should just all chill for a living.

>> No.18108322

>>18107920
>Ponczek
Yeah, what do you think?

>> No.18108333

>>18108000
I am glad we are back to normal, I was starting to worry.

>> No.18108353

Literally the return to normal. It feels exactly like when BTC bounced back up to 17k and everyone thought the gravy train was still flowing

>> No.18108378
File: 22 KB, 400x469, comment_1581234713N50NSEWArG2uJc8V2MuzkW,w400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108378

>>18108322
*Pączek

>> No.18108397
File: 57 KB, 400x321, 0B329790-3ED8-4F67-997D-F02054D8B4CA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108397

>>18108227
Imagine her kissing you on the cheek after a long day’s of work, and eating dinner together while talking about finance.

YFW you will never meet a girl like that

>> No.18108426

>>18108003
I still believe this, but it's the longest and steepest fucking bounce of all time. Just fuck my puts up nigga.

>> No.18108449

>>18108194
i'd fuck that man

>> No.18108455
File: 201 KB, 1920x1080, phil1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108455

If economy is going up when nobody is working.. does that mean everything ""they"" were ever telling us was bullshit?
Can we just have machines do everything for us, and get everything
we want for free / or from UBI

>> No.18108462

>>18108353
Back then it was hype dying down. Right now bitcoin does what the stocks do. And the feds keep pumping. Fuck this shit. I feel like it's gonna crash real hard, but I really don't know because of the fucking fed

>> No.18108468

This is just the last spasms, like when you inject adrenaline directly into some goners heart.

>> No.18108469

>>18108111
what other signs are there?

>> No.18108483

>>18107920
>3 million unemployed
>russia Saudi stand off still going
>no one will make rent
>quarantine could last for months
Definitely a bull go balls to the wall savings all in right now for Trump

>> No.18108507

>>18107988
>they make fair analyses
It’s always a lie the trick is to see why

>> No.18108524

According to bloomberg, the algos already dumped their stock positions down to 15% stock exposure, so theres not much left to dump. And Joe Public hasn't reacted fast enough to sell and are riding it out. Meanwhile unlimited QE is making the hedges take the early leap, aka Ackman.

>> No.18108535
File: 60 KB, 812x493, _DJI_1_hour_From_12.24.2019_To_03.24.2020.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108535

>>18108455
yes
>>18107920
B O U N C E
O
U
N
C
E

*orchestra hit*
*onestop.mid*

>> No.18108538

>>18107920
New investor. How do I short the dow? Tell me step by step.

>> No.18108548

>>18107988
She's also wrong about it being a technical reversal. It MIGHT be if there is more followup pumping but it's not confirmed yet. Even my TA set to me a bit on the twitchy side is sitting on the fence short of a buy signal.

>> No.18108555
File: 129 KB, 2928x1651, 1585253122229.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108555

>>18107920
Possible bounce

>> No.18108558

>>18108538
Alright
>1. Put your dick in a bee hive
>4.earn millions

>> No.18108560
File: 382 KB, 750x661, 28D0B240-85DD-4DC5-9F40-7A2E2823E68B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108560

Bearish.

>> No.18108568

>>18108538
use ^DIA as ticker symbol
sell short in TD Amerishart
voila

>> No.18108582

>>18108538

If they are going to flood the market with liquidity. I don't think you can short it.

>> No.18108585

>>18107920
This'd be when the knife hits the floor. Next'd be the echo.

>> No.18108619

Still own my puts but I've been doing call options daily to hedge my losses. Almost to break even on my currently down puts. But whatever. All apart of the fun

>> No.18108628

>>18107999
>they really are this retarded.
leave this one to natural selection

>> No.18108642

Beartraps all the way back up to ATH. Too many doomers thinking they caught the "big short"

>> No.18108656

>>18108582
If there is any more reason to hate boomer scum it's accelerating inflation for future generations so these morons can stop crying about their 401k.

>> No.18108672

>>18107944
Clearly a dead cat bounce. And that's why it'll be a bull rally.

>> No.18108678

>>18108426
>it's the longest and steepest fucking bounce of all time
they literally printed the entire US gdp and injected it lol

what do you expect?

>> No.18108690

>>18107920
Dead cat bounce. There's no way it's just a temporary dip. Look at the state of the economy right now. Look at the stuff that news media don't report and you can see with your own eyes. Look at all the bullshit startup companies that have been started over the past several years. Think about how these companies are valuated. It's all based on smoke and mirrors. People are now realizing that the emperor has no clothes and are leaving in droves. The elite are exiting in steps.

>> No.18108703

>>18108250
To add to this, look at the VOLUMES that are moving. It's huge green candles

>> No.18108704
File: 349 KB, 626x461, 1569537818866.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108704

>>18108111
>checked and bull trap confirmed

>> No.18108709
File: 437 KB, 972x972, 3amp7pjjbec41.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108709

>>18108656
>accelerating inflation
Ride the Tiger

>> No.18108743

>>18107920
The specialist that started the fear mongering has changed his outlook on the virus, basically it's over. Stocks are going to recover hard.

>> No.18108753

>>18108000
S-see, everthing's j-just fine! It's normal it's normal it's normal it's normal

>> No.18108790

>>18108743
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/imperial-college-scientist-who-predicted-500k-coronavirus-deaths-in-uk-revises-to-20k-or-less

>> No.18108823

>>18108130
And as the now infamous "Money Printer go Brrr" meme captures so well, underlying the uncertainty is the risk that trillions of dollars in monetary and fiscal stimulus, and even more trillions in debt, "could create an eventual inflation shock that will trigger losses for bondholders."

>> No.18108878

>>18107920
Dead cat bounce. Bobo is here to stay.

>> No.18108923

>>18108397
because women only care about spending money, fag.

>> No.18108942
File: 38 KB, 515x590, 56706149_132760234512668_5833240082517065728_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108942

>>18108250
>1. the FED is purchasing billions of dollars worth of equities right now.
>2. various pensions, sovereign wealth funds, etc. are "forced" buyers, meaning they are required by rules or regulations to have a certain amount of their portfolio in equities. They sold before or during the crash to preserve capital and now have to purchase stocks to meet their legal requirements.
>Liquidity is absolutely terrible right now. It is basically just whales moving the stock prices up right now.

I'm a brainlet, so are thing gonna pump or dump?

>> No.18108973

>>18108942
according to him, it will pump for a while, then dump massively.

>> No.18108987
File: 21 KB, 400x400, 1585253123840.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18108987

>>18108194
thanks just bought 100k

>> No.18109013
File: 336 KB, 622x538, 1552939681244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18109013

>>18108973
>according to him, it will pump for a while, then dump massively.

thanks anon. what's your opinion?

>> No.18109028
File: 341 KB, 555x355, dabears.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18109028

>>18108973
the dump is what sqqq is for fren.

>> No.18109036

>>18108233
Whew lads! Our puts gonna pay!

>> No.18109110

>>18107944
On the money printing factory they work and thats all that matter retard

>> No.18109127

>>18109013
i dont have one since i have no idea. as it stands it might go to 30-40k in a month because of the inflation or renewed investor confidence and we might dump to 10k just as easily. at this point. only maybe the market maker whales, political and financial elite knows what will go down.

>> No.18109172

>>18107944
>>18107988
Did you retards happen to miss a little $2 trillion dollar stimulus package or do you just not understand how much fucking money that is? The market cap of S&P 500 is 24.5 trillion, for fuck's sake.

>> No.18109204

>>18108507
So whales can cash out a few dollars higher?

>> No.18109242

>>18107999
>Trump pulled off another economic miracle
Pulled off what? Thr biggest fuck up with the virus even though he had nonths to prepare.

>> No.18109253

>>18107988
>too logical
thank you for remaining sane. being sane may not be practical though

>> No.18109296

>>18109242
Virus ain't done yet and he's still fucking it up. He's sidelined Fauci for the yes-girl and team-Trump is ALL IN on this being a hoax lmao. Really this sucks. I'm just going to put everything in cash tomorrow probably, not worth the headache waiting it out overnight.

>> No.18109299

The part that you guys are missing is that not everyone had some mc job that was easily axed in any economic uncertainty. A lot of people like me who have decent paying careers and spend a lot of money are still working from home, spending money on dumb shit, and living our lives. You need to stop projecting your own scenario onto everyone else and try to see the bigger more realistic picture of how the market is currently functioning. Society hasnt ended yet.

>> No.18109331

>>18109172
indeed, but its money that has no underlying production or value. the amount goods and services are declining and the money supply grows by 2 times the market cap of the biggest megacorporation of the world. it causes huge damage to the economy, because there is less goods for every dollar. its literal monopoly money.

>> No.18109335

>>18108743
So he realized this is the real deal and would like another chance to sell on top?

>> No.18109364

>>18109331
>mun labor theory of value
The economy would keep growing even if we kept all the useless burger flippers at home for the rest of the decade

>> No.18109378

>>18108111
>military grade hopium

Funny you should say that! Allow me to introduce:

Jerome’s Magical Money Machone~!

>> No.18109407

>>18109299
and the real value of your salary got significantly refued. the next phase will be when you will be laid off, since the demand for programmers reduced, because people have less disposable income to fuck away on useless apps and increased demand for basic goods, therefore they spend more on food and electricity. if it goes on like it does, eventually only the basic essential industries remain. ultil they become unsustainable also.

>> No.18109423

>>18109172
Yeah too bad there's a deadly virus sweeping across the country the president and his team of sycophants thinks is fake news. Did you know that the US just demanded Saudia Arabia end OPEC or face sanctions, declared the president of Venezula a narco-terrorist and they're going to also sanction every country on Earth who sells anything to the worlds largest telco (Huawei), and that was just YESTERDAY. What the US just did was pump blood into the system to hide the brutal internal bleeding. I can't time the meltdown, but it's going to come. Down, and down, and down again. It won't be a crash.

>> No.18109425

>>18107988
Literally everyone I know is still working. Who lost their jobs? People who work at party City lmao? All real jobs 80k+ are working from home, everyone in transportation, food, convenience and big box stores all still have their jobs.

>> No.18109447

>>18107920

WHY THIS IS A BAD THING AND ORANGE MAN BAD

Fuck Bergs.

>> No.18109448

>>18109364
not the burger flippers, but on-site engineers, contruction workers, plumbers, farmers, various technicians etc. there are plenty of workers who will fall out because of the crisis.

>> No.18109468

>>18109407
reduced*
>>18109425
wth are y

>> No.18109469

>>18109299
What are you spending money on? I can't find shit to spend money on. I tried to order something from Amazon but their delivery date was end of April. I tried to order some shit from best buy and it's out of stock everywhere and can't be ordered until April. I check on Ebay and it's literally 175% it's normal price.

>> No.18109507

>>18109172
> s&p cap 24,5T
> Down 22%, so about 5.4T
> 2T injection
Doesn’t look like it would cover it? It seems more like the fed is trying to scare investors back into stock by making holding cash dangerous.

>> No.18109509

>>18109425
what are you even talking about? real jobs are on site. the people who make the actual goods. only people that can work remotely is the management, marketing, logisticians, SOME engineers, programmers. thats basically it.

>> No.18109544

>>18109407
That will take way too long to happen. Whats actually going to happen is the virus will run its course over a couple months, start slowing down, and then everyone will realize things are getting back to normal. The market will rally, not as high as it was due to some artificial growth over the last few years, and then everything is basically back to normal. Sorry doomsday bros. Better keep hoping for an asteroid or something.

>> No.18109559
File: 2.81 MB, 640x640, 1569980834737.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18109559

>>18107999
Imagine actually being a simp for a politican. Trump is like the cam girls of politicians, and all the trumpers have the dogmatic zeal of thirsty incels.

>> No.18109573

>>18107994
Back to pol faggot

>> No.18109604

>>18108255
Biz is just applied pol.

>> No.18109615

Literally everyone online even the shoeshine boys are saying it's a bull trap.
Makes me think we bull run now bros.

>> No.18109620

>>18108312
D-do you really think that's what the government think?
Do you live in your own mind?

>> No.18109621

HAHAHAHAHAHHA STOCK GO UP

>> No.18109623

>>18109425
Have you read news about the recent layoffs? Work at home is a meme. Most companies don't allow it.

>> No.18109671

>>18109469
Bought an exercise machine, had it delivered. I still go for my daily coffee. Digital crap like video games and movies. Groceries. It has obviously slowed down but the 30-40 percent loss already accounts for that. Other than that the rest of us go about our day until the pandemic slows down and things pick up. Buying into constant doomsday hysteria will lose you money from here on out, other than getting lucky timing some volatility in the short term.

>> No.18109720

>>18107920
This stock market pump just proves everything about this country that we know is true but the media never reports on. The fact that all of our manufacturing has been outsourced, the fact that most jobs aren't essential in this country anymore, the fact that real unemployment is 30%+, etc etc it's all smoke and mirrors.

>> No.18109732

>>18109671
You're going to get coronavirus from the coffee shop I'm not even lying.

>> No.18109776

>>18107920
The crash is canceled. Doomers on suicide watch. Good bless the Fed. God bless Trump.

>> No.18109787
File: 1.46 MB, 400x513, the fed.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18109787

>>18107944

>> No.18109793
File: 173 KB, 317x249, Screen Shot 2020-03-25 at 11.37.40 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18109793

>>18109776
for the country i hope you're right. for my $gains i hope you're so fucking wrong and we haven't seen the worst of it.

>> No.18109822

>>18109732
So? For 99% of people it doesnt do jack shit. Its obviously best to avoid it and do what you can to not spread it to others, but its going to be rough for a lot of elderly people and people with complications and for everyone else its basically a flu for a week. This will slow down everything for a few months, it will not end the world

>> No.18109879
File: 25 KB, 600x418, fredgraph.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18109879

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>> No.18109909

>>18109615
How does that psychology work? Everyone is afraid to invest...bullish?

>> No.18109968

>>18108000
It's going to 5k?

>> No.18109992

>>18109507
This, unironically

>> No.18110008

>>18109879
Hmm that doesn’t look too bad still. Doubled in 10 years rather than the 15 years it took the previous two doublings (and it looks like about 10 years also for the doubling before that).

>> No.18110050

>>18110008
now it's like 25% this year

>> No.18110098

>>18109822
>For 99% of people it doesnt do jack shit.
I dunno anon, for the 10% ending up in ICU isn't "jack shit" in my opinion

>> No.18110179

>>18109909
Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful.

>> No.18110194

>>18109909
That's information bias. Not everyone is saying the economy is tanking except in that anon's mind.

>> No.18110227

>>18110098
Stop regurgitating bullshit numbers like this. 10% of people who get it do not end up in the ICU. There are WAYYYY more people who have it than are being tested and even then, 10% of people that are being tested and have it do not end up in an ICU.

>> No.18110277

>>18108535

Is that first dead cat bounce not the 'return to normal' phase? Is it possible we've gone through the whole capitulation cycle that fast?

>> No.18110317

>>18110277
I’m curious if this as well. I’m inclined to say no since unemployment is rising still, but it’s possible.

>> No.18110382

>>18110179
Fucking idiot.

>> No.18110455

>>18110277
>>18110317

"return to normal" has to last more than 12 hours

>> No.18110478

>>18109425
>Who lost their jobs?
At leas 3.3 million people officially. Which means that unofficially you are probably looking 4.2 million.

>> No.18110670
File: 91 KB, 750x745, 7B455109-DDB6-492E-AA60-912A1602677C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18110670

>>18109822

>> No.18110715

>>18109544
>e-everything is going back to n-normal again

>> No.18110729

>>18108203

They're paid to say shit like this. It reminds me of Ben Dtein telling people to buy Lehman Bros before they went under, or Cramer telling people to buy on day 2 of this recent crash. Shills gonna shill, they're beholden to their investors and advertisers.

>> No.18110813
File: 121 KB, 1514x848, 5464456456654.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18110813

>>18109968

>> No.18110875

>>18107920
>$2 trillion injection
>Fed is going to start buying corporate bonds, basically free lending for the summer.
>Disease is not even as bad a flu.

>> No.18110899

>>18109620
Do you live out of your mind?

>> No.18110924

>>18107944
>>18107988
How does it feel to be NPCs

>> No.18110953

>>18110875
>not even as bad a flu
>~6-9% Mortality rate
>Flu has less than 0.1% mortality
>First recorded child under 18 died just yesterday, 200 recorded deaths in the US in one day
>US is now the largest pool of carriers
I really want to know where all of the disinfo comes from.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-us-now-leads-the-world-in-confirmed-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB11LlDh

>> No.18110956

>>18110715
"Normal", as in a month ago? That's the past. We have a new "normal". The damage already guarantees that. It's not gonna be a post-apocalyptic nightmare, or the Great Depression II, but "normal" was lost two weeks ago. A normal recession takes 12-14 months to start unwinding, this will probably linger longer.

>> No.18111202

>>18109172
The package that has not and will not pass the house?
That package?

How many brain cells do you have?

>> No.18111403

>>18109407
Look at this sooner faggot.

>> No.18111659

>>18109172
>unemployment being twice the average expectation was priced in
>but the impending stimulus wasnt
ok, Jpow

>> No.18111766

>>18110227
Prove it

>> No.18111786

>>18107920

I think the market is disconnected from th real world. They'll continue climbing even if there's a full-blown civil war raging.

>> No.18111947 [DELETED] 
File: 163 KB, 512x387, D17ED32B-4C34-449D-99C7-AFAABC008E29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18111947

>>18108194
Holy fucking shit just imagine the amount of dick she went through in college. That pussy has more mileage on it than a 1933 Buick

>> No.18111963

>>18108000
checked bull trap trips don't lie

>> No.18112653

>>18108000
Checked!

>> No.18112719

>>18110813
18500 screencap this etc etc

>> No.18112727
File: 53 KB, 430x350, spaceyluthor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18112727

>>18108678
The US GDP is ~20 trillion. The stimulus is 2 trillion.

>> No.18112788

>>18107920
with the amount of money being printed this is really basically a sideways move to trick normans into buying.

>on day 1 there is $10 in circulation and apples cost $1 each
>on day 2 there is $100 in circulation and apples cost $10
>How much did apples increase in price from day 1 to day 2?

>> No.18112821

>>18112788
$90 teacher!

>> No.18112878

>>18110227
>There are WAYYYY more people who have it than are being tested and even then, 10% of people that are being tested and have it do not end up in an ICU.
Source: your ass

>> No.18113746

We will have dow 50k or 100k with a massive recession/ depression, due to all the financial engineering.

>> No.18114069

>>18108255
>>18109573
looks like we've got some oven dodgers in this thread boys

>> No.18114263

>>18107994
okay this is based.

>> No.18114282

>>18112878
Me? I had it and got better after 5 days, tested positive kek

>> No.18114369

>>18110670
Change the happening part with take your meds and it fits

>> No.18114377

So what you’re saying is... hold SQQQ til Monday no matter how much it hurts...

>> No.18115315

>>18107994
the famous gas the kike bounce

>> No.18115415

>>18108942
pump formerly dump

>> No.18115430

>>18109423
>Did you know that the US just demanded Saudia Arabia end OPEC or face sanctions, declared the president of Venezula a narco-terrorist and they're going to also sanction every country on Earth who sells anything to the worlds largest telco (Huawei), and that was just YESTERDAY

Fucking based

>> No.18115468

>>18107994
Does ash bounce?

>> No.18115499
File: 31 KB, 601x508, 2f7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18115499

ITT: massive denial of wagies that didn't buy the dip

>> No.18115558

Although hordes of people srent working many still are. Add this to the fact the economy could very well be up and roaring in a month, and the fed and the rescue package is pumping an unprecedented amount of money into the markets. It could very well be a bull market.

I dont know why the idiots on this board treat the current economic crisis as if it was 2008 all over again. Youre comparing apples to oranges you morons.

>> No.18115628

>>18109423
PRICED IN ! ! ! DON'T YOU GET IT?

>> No.18115630

>>18108312
Damn this is just unbelievably stupid.

>> No.18115671

>>18115499
>too wagie and dumb to work the market the past 4 years of gains, didnt even put money in 401k, end up with over 110k in bank account
>market tanks and feel i should get in but figure no way it doesnt keep going down once unemployment skyrockets and the cases and deaths skyrocket
>keep money in bank biding my time

>fast forward 4 days
>market up 20%
>missed on the market again

>> No.18115700

>>18115558
>I dont know why the idiots on this board treat the current economic crisis as if it was 2008 all over again.

Well the Fed printed a shitload of money then. They print a shitload more now.

>> No.18115752

>>18115671
You didn't miss it Anon.

The reality of the situation hasn't sunk in.

Fed Chairmen talking about 30% Unemployment @ the end of Q2

Airlines,Service Industry, Aero Manufacturing, Hospitality, Tourism, Real Estate, Gig Economy, all bankrupt, or on the verge of bankrupty.

This pump was entirely funded on Fed money being dumped into the system, and the archaic ways of trading algorithms.

>> No.18115788

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/traders-betting-850bn-buyer-market

>> No.18115791
File: 9 KB, 219x230, 1584900841209.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18115791

>>18107994
I approve of this post

>> No.18115805

>>18115752
>This pump was entirely funded on Fed money being dumped into the system

its just mindblowing to me that this is the result of this stimulus package. the market has gone up like 5,000 points in 4 days based on the fed printing an insane amount of money which has no backing. i know american currency is a fiat currency with no real "value" but they just dont care about inflation, that $1,200 wont do shit for most people in this situation, the dire situations most of the biggest economy states will be in in a few weeks?

>> No.18115827

>>18115700

The economy was tanked due to decisions made in the financial sector. Not because there was a forced government because of CoronaAids.

All the infrastructure is still there to pick up where we left off. Strong chance in 3 months the economy is more powerful than before CoronaAids.

People are bored sitting around doing nothing. Many want to work and socialize with the world. When the light turns green millions will GO.

>> No.18115908

>>18115827
The light will turn green too early.
CoronaChan's growth is going to surge.
>It's just the flu
Yeah, if healthy 30+ year olds commonly drop dead like fucking flies from it.

Reminder: Everything is fine. Until it isn't. The public is reactionary they don't think ahead and do stupid shit and then claim "Well, how could we have ever predicted it would be this bad".

>> No.18115952

>>18112727
Sheeeeit 10% and that doesnt even include all the pumps theyve so blantly forced every day or so eg end of day pump today.

>> No.18116011

>>18115805
On the plus side, the over-leveraged Airlines and the rest will definitely make it.

>> No.18116032
File: 119 KB, 1000x734, Trump.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18116032

>>18115908
>The public is reactionary they don't think ahead and do stupid shit and then claim "Well, how could we have ever predicted it would be this bad".
Truly, he is a man of the people.

>> No.18116040 [DELETED] 

>>18115827
nah many got a taste of the NEET life and won't ever go back

>> No.18116062

>>18109604
beautifully stated

>> No.18116127

>>18108255
It's funny that /biz/ is where the Jews hang out

>> No.18116157

>>18108312
I don't care what they say, I like the way you think.

>> No.18116220

>>18109172
So we should se an 8% bounce, and then the market will continue to go down until amazon is at $1,000 a share, and tesla goes bankrupt.

>> No.18116223

>everyone who ate cheese cake ever in their life is now dead
>CHEESECAKE FACTORY STONKS OVER 9000

i mean, at this point, if you haven't figured out how fake and gay the stonk scam is than you need to be dead

>> No.18116253
File: 480 KB, 1366x768, 1513395690760.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18116253

>>18107994
This
/Thread

>> No.18116403

>>18109172
Day traders just sucked out all the money.
>Buy in right before the stimulus.
>Watch prices inflate 8%.
>Sell.
>Watch the market continue to drop.
Tomorrow, all the stimulus money will be gone. Day traders will be richer, and everyone else will have less money.

>> No.18116702
File: 110 KB, 383x600, 1574211397016.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18116702

Tomorrow will close on in green

Next week will be flat

After that it will be a blood bath literally and figuratively

>> No.18116767

>>18116702
You base this on?

>> No.18116997

>>18108250
I bought some the last two days. Maybe I'm an idiot, but I think the fed has inflated some of them back to fair value.

>> No.18117036

>>18108524
This. And the market slightly over-reacted. Can still drop more of course, but fed doesn't want it to for societal/economic stability.

>> No.18117095

>>18107920
I call this the dead fiat bounce.
By printing money to infinity you temporarily prop up the stock market and finally destroy your own currency.

Is this what we call 1D chess ?

>> No.18117098

>>18116767
The oracle that is his ass.

>> No.18117147

>>18108538
Buy sdow chances are you won't get approved for options

>> No.18117155

>>18117095
The thing is you have to put your wealth into something.
If you sell your stocks, you get dollars.
You know, the stuff you all say is becoming worthless because they print unlimited amounts of it.

>> No.18117254

>>18117155
The real question is which has a higher potential for loss? USD in a free fall market or USD with inflation?
That is the true opportunity cost.

>> No.18117413

>>18117155
You need to exit the scam.
Everything that can't be printed to infinity by a central bank and is not completely virtual is a safe asset which will eventually outlive the $.

Even stocks of companies which will outlive this crisis could be used as a hedge if you are prepared to wait for 10+ years.

>> No.18117590

>>18117413
so bitcoin for example, which isn't completely virtual.
the energy put into it is very physical.
also you can print your private key on a paper.

>> No.18117673
File: 21 KB, 1140x640, lol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18117673

>>18107920
CAT BROS WHERE YOU AT

>> No.18117708

>>18110478
>unofficially you are probably looking 4.2 million.
This. How many people didnt want to bother applying, put it off for some other time, got fired with an excuse, etc.

>> No.18117764

>>18109604
kek

>> No.18118110
File: 265 KB, 493x723, D9F5771B-959C-4FAE-BE0E-CE0EF0B412DD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18118110

>>18107994
Based

>> No.18118679

>>18108678
I think you mean the government's yearly budget. So in effect they just spent what they normally spend in a year in a few days.

>> No.18118690
File: 166 KB, 800x600, 9ab99812a14b5f2bfc85f65c698bab2e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18118690

>making decisions based on a single graph

MOOOOOOOOOO

you're gonna have a bad time

>> No.18118899

>>18108000
>>18108111
>>18108555
>>18107999
ROCKET SCIENCE

>> No.18119351

>>18107994
lmfao

>> No.18119385

>>18107920
lol imagine not buying a few days ago.
With my shit income I have bought 5 BA stock, and I've made about 450 dollars off it already. If this shit moons back to 400 dollars.. NICE.
Bought a few more cheaper stock and will just continue to monitor, I've made quite a bit of money over the past week and a half.

>> No.18120549

>>18107944
lol these are the same retards who say the stock market isn't the the economy

>> No.18120890

The therapeutics work, insiders know. Boat is leaving.

>> No.18120897

>>18119385
>imagine catching falling knives

>> No.18120975

>>18119385
>I've made
Paper gains that you will quickly lose next week.

>> No.18120996

>>18107920
>employment figures
shithouse
>quarterly earnings
shithouse
>demand
shithouse

>> No.18121013

Yeah after BTC dumped from 20k to 10k in one day, it bounced back to 17k and people thought we were back.
I thought Boomerberg analysts would be better.

>> No.18121023

>>18107920
>he doesn’t know
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jfx7PnMtCeY

>> No.18121428

>>18109204
Yes, buy them time to gtfo.

>> No.18121461

>>18108469
The underlying problem isn't fixed (Corona quarantine and oil wars).

>> No.18122374

>>18108250
>billions
trillions

>> No.18123446
File: 89 KB, 701x1024, 354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18123446

This is THE most obvious 'Return To Normal' I have ever seen. It fits the chart so cleanly it's almost comical how accurate it is. We had a bit of a crash and now a seemingly random recovery. There was no reason for the last few days to be green. 'Ooh stimulus package!' Come on, this is a bull trap. It's so obvious. I'm going to sell everything in an hour and a half.

>> No.18123470

>>18107994
Based

>> No.18123543

>>18108255
>>/auschwitz/

Go to work kike.

>> No.18123572

>>18107920
US didn't even received the blessing yet. True return to normal will be at ~18k at highest.

>> No.18123834

>>18112788

No. Usd went into deflation due to immense demand for it. The did QE to bring it back to usual inflation levels.

QE while in inflation already is bad. Do you even undertake anything or do you just read Zero Hedge and consume it all at face value?

>> No.18123931

Lets call this the dead boomer bounce

>> No.18123956

>>18107920
Dead.
You think the crash we had the last two weeks was bad, wait till Trump sends everyone back to work and Corona starts spreading like a mofo.

>> No.18123989

>>18107988

Who cares about that shit

The market goes down because of uncertainty , not because of how many normies are in their cubicles

>> No.18124207

>>18108255
>>/lgbt/

>> No.18124486
File: 35 KB, 511x512, ESwLjS_XsAAxjQN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18124486

>>18109604

>> No.18124577

I strongly believe this is the point where intelligent investors dump all their money. Everybody was waiting for a bargain, as soon as enough decided to take it, prices hiked, and everybody followed though.

>> No.18124707

>>18124577
The pump and dump seems to have happened for the cruise line stocks already. So many boomers wanted cheapies. They inflate 30-50% from bottom and get cashed out.

>> No.18124710

>>18110953
The normal flu kills 30,000 Americans a year my guy.

>> No.18124778

>>18124710
This is a strong bear signal. People can’t seem to accept that it’s worse than just a flu. We just shut down the global economy on a lark.

>> No.18124914

>>18108000
>DOW opened at -4%

this is it boys, the biggest crash in your lifetime, get ready get bobo

>> No.18124965

>>18124914
Fuck the bulltards.
Shit is going down.
BEAR MARKET TIME

>> No.18124980

>>18124710
Because people have been catching the flu and spreading it every year

>> No.18124988

>>18108194
the nose knows

>> No.18125116

>>18123446
>30% drop in less than a week
I agree, literally not a crash.

>> No.18125137

It won't dump until you also think we're in a bull market. You're the lame small fries, the real suckers on the stock market, who are trying to be smarter than the market, even if they obviously aren't.

The low IQ normies, boomers who are just going with the flow are earning money in the meanwhile, as always.

>> No.18125246

>>18107920
Ela Matador

>> No.18125805

>>18115805
Well the market went down almost 50%, how much lower should it go really? It's not like all the big companies are bankrupt. This is a temporary recession and will end in a few months after the virus is over.

>> No.18126257
File: 11 KB, 296x292, 1580524668529.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18126257

>>18109172
We will have a deflationary collapse before we get the inflation.

Money as debt is destroyed when loans are defaulted on or paid back. Most of the debt currently in existence is corporate debt, and these companies are going to start defaulting like crazy. Look how many companies have been downgraded from AAA to junk in the last few weeks. Corporate bond ETFs are tanking.

Even if the fed does 20 trillion of QE over the next few months there would probably be 100 trillion of money destroyed due to bad corporate debts, hence we will get deflation first

Also normies aren't going to be spending as much and there is already a huge corporate liquidity crisis... The velocity of currency is slowing to a crawl, this leads to deflation also

I've bought a ton of puts on the S&P500 and am only really holding cash crypto and precious metals, along with some defensive stocks and miners, but I expect them to be BTFO pretty bad in the coming months

>> No.18126291

>>18108000
based and checked

>> No.18126333

>>18107944
Lmao the only people not working are the worthless waitresses and clothes folders at Abercrombie. The rest of us still have jobs to do

>> No.18128431

>>18107944
Everyone I know in pensions, investments and commercial banking is working from home or going into the office still. You probably work in a supermarket.

>> No.18128463

>>18108312
How can you be so goddamn stupid, commie?

>> No.18128473

>>18107994
absolutely unquestionably certified 100% pure based

>> No.18128631

>>18109423
Well Maduro and his government have been working with narcos all the way back to when Chavez was in power. It's why so many generals know nothing military wise but just so happen to be put in a position of power. It's a well-known fact. And Guaidi is a corrupt jew. Only good one I can see is the woman candidate, but she is awful with her economical policies. Leopoldo was a good ancap-ish candidate before they threw him in jail and brainwashed him.

>> No.18129109

>>18107994
based and screencapped

>> No.18129133

>>18109604
very well put anon

>> No.18129185

>>18110924
And yet commies are even dumber than NPC's

>> No.18129233

>>18107994
saw this exact post at like 3 amEST

>> No.18129309

>>18108255
>>18109573
The redddit faggot identifier is working with 100% accuracy, kek.

>> No.18129388

>>18110670
Oh wow a meme, I'm totally convinced now because boy I sure don't want people to think I'm an NPC!
Choke on a fucking dick you cunt.

>> No.18129470

>>18115468
no but the ovens do

>> No.18129622

>>18109822
Now you’ll probably die from it. Life has a sense of humor too

>> No.18130235

I'm so glad I listened to the based female writer of Bloomberg news.

>> No.18130251

>>18109172
>congress spending money = people are working
>3.28 million unemployment claims in 1 WEEK = people are working

1\10 you tried

>> No.18130413

>>18130251
The labor theory of value was debunked in the 19th century, dumb communist

>> No.18130421

>>18107920
She was trying to tell me it's time to open puts. Dammit why didn't I listen

>> No.18130545

>>18108111
my dumbest normie friends have all been texting me over the past few days asking which stonks they should invest in. i’ve never been more confident that we’re about to go off a cliff.

>> No.18131590

>>18107920
nobody fucking knows.

>> No.18132492

>>18126257
What do you expect to be BTFO your puts or PMs?

>> No.18132603

>>18130421
It’s already bounced back to 260.

>> No.18132867

>>18108469

- US total infected to continue mooning to a few million, deaths in hundreds of thousands
- hospitals in every major city will be 100% full soon, healthcare workers will start quitting or also getting infected
- the entire consumer economy is pretty much halted and will be for the foreseeable future months, not weeks. months.
- millions upon millions of corporate layoffs are going to hit next once earnings start coming in
- sports/events/schools will probably remain closed for the rest of the year, if not longer
- 4th of july, thanksgiving, Christmas, all cancelled and no travel, no holiday spending. no black friday
- will probably start to see riots and loss of law and order as police stop responding to anything
- housing market will collapse, nobody is moving during all this
- realtors, construction plummet as new house starts gone
- landlords / REITs decimated when people can't pay bills
- cities go bankrupt because no utility revenue
- commercial real estate market collapses with business closed

That's just a small preview of what is to come. This is ELE for the global economy.

>> No.18132918

>>18132492
Defensive stocks and miners

>> No.18132949
File: 32 KB, 801x566, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18132949

Look at the big picture, it's a bear market.

Even today with the disaster relief bill passed through congress, it's still foundering.

>> No.18132983

>>18107920
Their analysts, they don't know preferred stock from livestock, alright? When it hits south, we raise the sperm count on the deal.

>> No.18133712

>>18132983
i read this in joe biden's voice

>> No.18134638

>>18107994
Nice

>> No.18134801

>>18107994
This is the quality content I come to /biz/ for.

>> No.18134832
File: 15 KB, 436x99, dowdown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18134832

>>18107920

>> No.18134850

>>18108312
>people say weed doesn't effect the brain

>> No.18134938
File: 110 KB, 1024x682, biden.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18134938

>>18132983
You see back when I was a stock broker there was this mean trader, the meanest trader on Wall Street they said, they told me "Joe you watch out for him" and I said to them "Who's 'him'?" and they said "that mean trader over there, goes by the name of Corn-Pop." Well I've never been one to back down from a fight so I walked to the lady at the counter at the airport in Hanoi and told the sergeant at arms, I was a soldier you know, that I was proud to fight for this country but I was so hungry and the MREs, that means "meals you eat when ready," they were so bad so I told my interns please next time you get lunch how about you get something decent, this is a law office after all, I didn't become a lawyer to eat like this!
Anyway, we cannot have Trump in office for another four years!

>> No.18135021

>>18109407
To go a little further on that, I think the increased demand for basic goods won't come in an expansion of the volume of those basic goods consumed but rather in a devaluation of the dollar by increasing the money supply which will force inflation to kick in. What Trump is announcing will inject money into the system and it will be felt by prices surging as a consequence.

>> No.18135059

>>18110179
Every single investment manager I know thinks it's a dead cat bounce. Every single normie I know, even my maintenance man is saying now is the time to buy big.

Normies are thinking they are genius investors right now and want to buy ad much as they can. The professionals are saying be weary but not fearful these big companies "have nothing wrong with their fundamentals it will be back within 2 years and soar to new heights"

>> No.18135094

>>18129388
Hit a nerve did he?

>> No.18135147

>>18112727
Actually its almost 7 trillion total so far with everything the feds have done.

>> No.18135182

>>18124710
The normal flu also doesn't get met with country-wide lockdowns as soon as carriers are spotted. Like heart disease, it's simply permitted to run its course. Coronavirus has killed 1500 people while attempts to viciously bottleneck it have been forced on the public. If it's permitted to run about with the same exposure as Influenza, it'll be a bloodbath.

>> No.18135188

>>18117155
Xrp

>> No.18135426

>>18135059
buying puts on everything...except MRNA. i'm buying MRNA

>> No.18135744

>>18132867
Yea that’ll happen because of a cough with a 4% death rate (in third world countries with people exclusively over 75 and also are obese smokers)

>> No.18136399

>flu vs coronachan.

It doesn’t matter which one is actually worse... what matters is how people react to what they believe.

>bull rally or trap

economy is in uncharted territory with partial global shutdowns. If the market continues up then the market is officially decoupled with reality and get out while you can. Otherwise there’s only one other way it’s going to go and get out while you can.