/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18096079
stimulus package passed - still futures red - wtf is happening?

>>18096092
Priced in

>>18096092
You had 2 days bullkek

Soon soon, the "check bill" will be law and 2400 bucks will be on the way to me. The house must pass it next and the pres sign it.

>>18094003

1. Protecting the wealth you have > making a profit.
(1% RISK for me, 2%, 3%)
(Better to not trade than do a shit trade)

2. Invest with logic, not emotion.
(Don't panic sell, don't panic buy)
(BEWARE of strong emotions)
(Don't fall in love with a stock)

3. Diversification.
(Spread your risk accross multiple avenues)
(For swing - Buy across multiple hours)

4. Do your own reasearch.
(Understand what you are investing in)
(Don't trust anybody's ideas - Do not trust analysts)
(Consider things carefully before action)

5. BUY THE DIP. SELL THE HIGH. Buy low, sell high.
(Don't FOMO)
(Don't sell low and then buy high)
(Be paitent with your winners, be impatent with your losers)

6. Mangae your losses.
(You will loose some bets, don't wish for recovery)
(Use Stop-losses)
(Do Not jump back on a failed trade)
(Accept a loss, retreat and re-group)

7. Every trade is uncertain.
(Take profits while you can)
(Buy the hype, sell the news)
(There is always a risk of getting raped)

8. Listen to the market.
(The market can stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent)

9. News affects markets, act accordingly and you can profit.

10. Have a plan.
(Know how much you are willing to loose, know what price you are selling at)
(Entry, Stop, Target)

11. Patience.
(If you don't have an edge, don't buy in)

Should I short Boeing?

>>18096092
Because its a meme. $1200 for a one time month isnt going to do anything. Trump is seriously betting that this is over by Easter so he can get everybody back to work. No chance its over by then. The stimulus will be bailing out the titanic with a bucket.

>>18096110
soon as in mid may

PRICED IN

>>18096112
Duh

>>18096112
Everything Boeing has been doing and done up until this point has been unfathomably bad for business.
This is a bullish signal in the Fed's NuMarket

>>18096112
Do you know much about them beyond the current general airline woes?
Like, have they fixed the issues with the 737 yet?

>>1809611
Maybe for the short term, never for the long term though, if it does ever get into deep shit the government will just take them over claiming its to level the playing field since its largest competitor Airbus is owned by some governments.

>>18096111
>those trips
Checked and based

12. Never get high on your own supply

>>18096112
Boeing no longer follows the laws of economics or god. 00 roulette is a better pick.

Is the world being shutdown priced in?

>>18096112
Boeing is defacto a department of the US government. Gov would sooner write them a blank cheque than let them go under. Answer: lol idk you do you senpai kek xDdddd

>>18096131
because they have been paying for campaigns ever since kennedy got shot in the head.

>>18096188

The market is like an abusive household. Daddy (Fed, Trump) have golden boys who that get all the treats and love, and whipping boys who go without food. Unfortunately, the whipping boy's chances of escaping the abusive household and getting their own food are low right now because its stormy outside. For now, it only makes sense to bet on the golden boys.

this table tells me that unemployment numbers for march will be published on april 3rd. why do people think they will come out today?

https://www.bls.gov/schedule/news_release/empsit.htm

I hate women.

>>18096200
why?

>>18096200
We all do.

>>18096198
Weekly jobless claims is every thursday. Job reports is something different and is every first friday of the month.

>>18096209
wouldn't go as far as to say that I hate them, I kinda think they're overrated like rick and morty :^)

rate it niggerinos

>>18096198
There’s a separate announcement for employment claims coming out today

>>18096211
ah okay thanks

>>18096200
women hate other women
ur prolly a women or tranny

>>18096221
Hey bobeo what did you buy in SQQQ at? I was impatient and bought in at 24.

>>18096226
I didnt realize they were two different things either. Both will likely be bad knews but the jobless claims is what we are waiting on for today in about an hour and half.

>>18096200
Imagine NOT hating women!

Anybody with half a brain knows they shouldn't vote and they need to put in their place for our societal collapse to reverse.

>>18096229
Trannies aren't women

>>18096135
Not even. Iirc they're planning on doing more tests "soon" and might have an updated 737 Max 200 by 2021
But that "soon" is probably going to be a bit later considering all airlines are in max damage control right now, so I'd hold off for now

Post a song which emotionally portrays the energy of this market.

My pic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPhXKak_bHw

Is it red because the stimulus package failed?

Should I sell everything and buy into the Chinese market

>>18096247
No it passed, but everybody knew they wouldn’t delay the vote longer so it’s priced in.

>>18096242
Good post anon

>>18096111
> Trips confims
Based advice anon

>>18096254
Thank you, friend.

>>18096221
155 is brave

>>18096220
cringe

>>18096247
Nah it passed but it isnt very useful. People are still at stay at home orders and it will only get worse in the next few weeks. New Orleans now has a large amount of cases too.

>>18096232
I have 1000 @$21.05 from yesterday mid afternoon.

>>18096242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orlbo9WkZ2E

>>18096275
That’s when I should’ve doubled down, I bought in 2 days ago at 24

>>18096111
Since you seem to know what you're about, anon, any recommendations for what stock to look into?

expect to be crashing at least 8% today when the usa opens markets

>>18096242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVekJTmtwqM

>>18096296
god yes, 8 * 16 (my leverage), hnnngg

>>18096232
23-24 sadly

>>18096296
Yup, Nikkei was down too

>Crabs today
>Bears sell their puts in defeat after bagholding them for weeks
>TURBODUMPS next Tuesday for no reason at all

>>18096295
Haha if you're new to this, stay away for a couple months.

i-it has to come back down eventually, right?

>tfw i missed the bottom

>>18096291
Honestly it was a play for today, it's pure luck that I am already up a decent amount on the position I bought and then about 50 minutes later bernie sent out his tweet.

>>18096320
Okay Bernie

>he bought the top

markets aren't moving because they're poised for 8:30 jobless claims

>>18096316
wake up retard

>>18096261
It is, hopefully it wasn't stupid as it was brave, I wonder if I should've went for something like 170p

how is shorting the SPX today not free money
dumb bulls

>>18096221
Should have just sent me money instead

>>18096311
>TURBODUMPS next Tuesday for no reason at all
This is the most true prediction. The fundamental driver of the economy right now isn’t investor choice, it’s machine trading algos. This is also why huge shifts keep happening on the aftermarket where normies aren’t even allowed. They collect on the squeezes when you can’t even do anything about it.

Broad strokes there will be more downturn. It’s timing it out that’s hard.

my balls are sweating got 500play stocks hoping for a spike so i can drop these bags

>>18096224
>>18096237
thanks

EVERYONE EXPECTS IT TO GO RED
IT WILL BE GREEN THIS WEEK

Anyone have any thoughts on UBER? I watched their CEO give an interview yesterday and seems like a buy.

>>18096375
Everyone expecting to do the opposite of expectations is priced in already

>>18096375
Clown market rules

>>18096330

Wouldn't people already be able to predict that jobless claims will be higher? The chances of it being lower or not changing is logically very slim under the circumstances. What are they waiting for?

An hour and a couple of minutes left.

>>18096363

I'm beginning to think I should just buy calls and puts right at the money in equal quantities and sell them when they rocket in the appropriate direction and just wait for the momentum to shoot back the other way to sell the other.

>>18096399
>implying the market is rational anymore
Companies who produce basically nothing are getting bailed out.
Central banks and insider traders are the only ones left buying shit up here

I'm here because frankly it's a better way to get an estimate of things then going to the wank bank that is the pol thread on the effects.

But I gotta ask, what the fuck is this "bear" shit going on? I get the bull but what's with the bear?

>>18096402
2 hours

>>18096312
Been selling options for the last week and it's doing alright for me, not really making all that much yet but it's more than I would have otherwise made. Just curious if you had any inkling into what companies would be best to sit and wait on?

I don't get how options work on degiro, my brain is small

>>18096386

They're not currently profitable. What do you think is the likelihood of them being profitable in the future? Look at their earnings statements and contemplate.

>>18096403
Being ∆ neutral is boring normie garbage, pick a side and allow yourself a hedge.

13.30 cet time right?

>>18096415
the bear is the SMG official mascot

>>18096242
Lol I think this is a better pick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBmoQSHfO2U

>>18096415
literally the opposite you fucking brainlet

>>18096428
please leave

>>18096403
the day you do that IV will drop to 0

today

>>18096436
14.30 bear friend

>>18096423
Isn't it 8:30 ET? I meant the labour report, not the market.

>>18096415
God you /pol/ transplants are retarded

As long as there is no working vaccine with at least 80% success rate, we will be full bobo

>buying

Jobs numbers and GPD in an hour. Whats for breakfast? The grocery store didn't have any of the Jimmy Dean hot sausage I like with my western omelet habenaro jack cheese. So I'm going to have to get something on my way to work.

>>18096415
i knew it was only a matter of time until /pol/tard would migrate to /biz/. go back please

>>18096490
>Whats for breakfast
bull meat

>looking at futures
is this the great crash on thursday you bobos were shilling the last two days? pathetic honestly

>>18096092
>what do you mean loans to businesses and $1200 checks won’t restore corporate profits?!
>noooooooooooo what about my heckin stockerinos?!

i put 60k of my mother's retirement money into SPXU

>>18096092
>>18096115
The point of the 1200$ is to bail out banks.
>Wagie gets $1200
>wagie has enough money to pay rent
>landlord can pay the mortgage
>bank is not sitting on frozen realestate loans preventing another 2008

I have no idea the stock market bounced. US (and Aus) are both going north of 10% unemployment

>>18096340
the lowest I thought was achievable short term was 180

>>18096415
< You have to go back.

When do the jobless reports come out?

>>18096496
s-shut up we are working on it

>>18096510
>he didn't take a mortgage
you'll never make it anon

Trips and the market will open as a bloodbath but will close green

>>18096092
It's starting to sink in that Trump is bullshitting when he says he's going to reopen the country by Easter. This shit is going to last at least 4-6 months (maybe longer) and even 2 trillion dollars in bailouts isn't going to save the ship from sinking.

>>18096092
PRICED IN
oh and whos ready for then next free fall.

kek, in these shit times we must give thanks and look on the bright side. Once we're past the virus threat we're gonna be making green out the ass when the market roars back to life. Give thanks to the congress for giving me 2400 bucks. Now I'll be able to pay myself back after loaning myself the money to buy stocks during this epic dip and pay off my credit card and screw them outta interest fees and still a bit to spare.

>>18096555
>Once we're past the virus threat we're gonna be making green out the ass when the market roars back to life
Checked

>>18096555
No its not. The virus was not the main problem, the fundamentals of the economy were broken and now we are headed for a Great Depression, which only massive war will be able to cure...at the expense of humanity itself.

>>18096547
>This shit is going to last at least 4-6 months (maybe longer)
Why? Does the virus have a 4 month incubation period? If this quarantining shit works, then why does it take multiple months?

let's face it, the market is rigged against the individual that does not have connections and insider information. banks set ridiculous estimates for the jobless claims so that the real numbers somehow beat it. we will never make it.

guys I just had an epiphany, during a strong movement, if someone is able to correctly identify support levels when the shit is falling a decent strategy would be to buy cheap puts that are close to the money but expire soon, and place calls and puts next to that level because the market will most likely keep dropping you could print money both ways, only doable during a strong dump, or a godly pump though. Am I retarded for figuring this out so late?

>>18096555
checked and based

What happens if I can't cover a put?

>>18096571
war does not cure depressions. war is bad for economies.

If the job numbers are less than 7M, they're priced in already. In many states a UI claim can't be filed until a week has passed, meaning this report will probably understate actual job losses to be reported in the coming weeks.

>>18096079
what broker should I use if I'm a Eurocuck? None in sticky work

>>18096529
I use this website to calculate the profit -
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/calculator/long-put.html

still a good deal I guess

>>18096607
>If the job numbers are less than 7M, they're priced in already
source?

>>18096601
you get your fingers cut, yakuza style
but not before being called to the margin call room for a beating

>>18096602
>ww2

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN,,,,

JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MY SON IN LAW HE SAID HE LIKES BUYING TQQQ ITS THE NEXT BIG THING HE SAYS,,, WELL IM MORE OF A BONDS GUY BUT WHAT THE HELL SOMETIMES ITS NOT SO BAD THAT MY DAUGHTER MARRIED A JEW,,,, FIGURE ILL SELL HALF MY 401J AND FOLOW HIS ADVICE,,, THE OLD BALL AND CHAIN DONT NEED TO KNOW L O L

WELP STAY SAFE OUT THERE,,, HEARD OL RUSTY GOT THAT CHINESE FLU HE TOOK THE TEST,, ME IM NOT LEAVIN THE HOUSE LMBO

_______________
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USMC "DevilDog" 1961-1962
Honeywell HVAC Tech Level 4

"If you can't f*ck it, shoot it!" - Chesty Puller

I quit bearing and went long yesterday

How poor am I gonna be today bobros

>>18096574
>If this quarantining shit works
No one in America is quaratined. There are several cities and states on "stay at home" orders which means only essentials such as food trips are allowed. The cases are skyrocketing everywhere.

>>18096574
"Flattening the curve" requires spreading out the caseload over a long period of time in order to prevent the medical system from being overwhelmed. If restrictions are relaxed too early there will be a huge spike in cases which will overwhelm the system. If the system is overwhelmed the death rate will skyrocket. 20% who get the virus require hospitalization. Remember the estimated 1-3% death rate figure is WITH hospitalization and medical treatment (i.e. ventillators). If there aren't enough to go around and people can't get treatment then they will die.

It has been about 3 months and China is still on lockdown. Why? Because they know if they open things up again shit will go to hell. Look at Hong Kong too. They tried recently and immediately backtracked.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/third-wave-hong-kong-thought-it-had-a-handle-on-coronavirus-it-doesnt-2020-03-23

>>18096602
>war is bad for economies
This brainlet, war literally leads to golden eras. The trick is you and your country have to be sneaky Jews like the USA during WW2. The UK won the war but was staddled with huge debt, Lend-Lease etc

>>18096627
/biz/ what else do you need? and now fucking buy and be a bull

>>18096631
There's no way AMD could go to $39 tomorrow right? Isn't writing a put free money?

>>18096635
very dude, whyyyyyyyyyyyy?

>>18096647
TANSTAAFL

>>18096633
there are multiple, innumerable vectors that ultimately determine the strength of an economy. this means that other vectors can outweigh massive negative vectors, like war.

citing one example in which that has happened proves nothing.

>>18096079
>Priced in

>>18096652
Yeah ok I have to pay $2.99 in commission

When do jobless number come out?????????

>>18096617
Saxobank or Swissquote are your only (pun intended) options.

>>18096640
>muh eternal one cherrypicked example of ww2
okay brainlet

>>18096634
>sent from my Huawei

>>18096601
I hope that isn't the put you're planning on buying

>>18096639
BAD

>>18096634
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>>18096683
Why? AMD is not going to drop by 12% by tomorrow lol

>>18096640
You are absolutely fucking retarded. WWII was NOT in anybway a typical war. Manufacturing was absolutely decimated across Europe, the US benefited from being the only game in town other than the USSR. Every other war has been a disaster.

>>18096634
DAD?

>>18096602
*war is for bad economies.

>>18096647
>There's no way AMD could go to $39 tomorrow right?
>writing uncovered options when you have no idea what you're doing
stop now before you make a terrible decision that ruins you for the rest of your life. you can lose just by the VIX going up.

>>18096635
y y y would you do that

>>18096365
>his balls are sweaty
>knees weak
>wank hand ready

>>18096664
8:30 ET. 30 min from now.

>>18096200
You wouldn't have to hate them if you had realistic expectations. All women are whorls and will sell you out.

No one actually thought this was over, right? They were just larping, right?

That's what the rational side of me says, but I know there are so many retarded niggerfaggots in these threads now most of them were serious. I hope they fucking hang.

>>18096700
its a put when it expires I don't lose anything AND get the premium

>>18096711
What over? Coronavirus? No. Economic troubles? No end in sight. Stocks going down? Who the hell even knows.

Bulls...are you going to be ok?!!!??!

>>18096664
Why is it so hard to look it up? What else don't you know that you should know?

bets on the job market numbers?

>>18096710
who hurt you

>>18096721
Yeah, but if you lose, you die.

BoE announcement imminent

>>18096721
you can be forced to liquidate the asset if its value drops too much due to the VIX going up before you are able to realize a gain.

>>18096721
I strongly disadvise you to write puts in this market.

>>18096466
so in 30 min we know how many NEW unemployed ppl are in US?

>>18096699
Vietnam sold quiet a few bell helicopters. And why are we in Afghanistan if not to steal their oil?

>>18096726

3.2 million new claims high estimate
2.6 million low estimate

Please let me be a brainlet on trading options with degiro. I think I've figured it out. If I wanted to say ... trade the S&P then I'd be best via CBOE for XSP? The obligation expires end of the month? I pick my price and purchase either an obligation to buy or sell (call or put) 100 shares at that point. Scrolling down I can see prices in $1 increments to reflect the value of the underlying instrument which is currently 247. $243 calls are like ... 2c which would suggest me to the market feels it will rise today? Though $251 are also 2c soo. $248 are like $2 something.

Ok so to make money ... I believe today will drop so I should place a call to do what?

>>18096722
The past two days were filled with nothing but "bull"niggers being faggots. Unironically too cocky. If they were serious I want them to fucking kill themselves.

They just had a guy on CNBC saying anyone over 75 shouldn't get treated for coronavirus, pretty morbid to start the day

>>18096726
why yes, that is what we're all doing

>>18096721
Dont write options if you dont know what they are doing. Just do regular calls and puts and sell before expiration.

>>18096709
I am loking on Investing.com and trying to find where the numbers will be posted.

>https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/

They have :

>Initial Jobless Claims
>Continuing Jobless Claim
>4-Week Average Jobless Claims

Which is the one I should be look at? Do they add all of those up to get the jobless number?

>>18096711
You missed the bottom

>>18096704
>Mama Yellen made spaghetti
>JPow feels calm and ready

Rate cut to negative levels when?

>>18096724
where can i look them up? No Murrican

>>18096760
because they are filling up the hospitals and creat a chain reaction, but over all bullish news

>>18096687
>I'm left handed so there are a lot of things that just don't seem right to me
kekd

>>18096728
No one did like I said you wouldn't need to be angry if you had realistic expectations. It only hurts if you don't expect it. AWALT: all women are like that. Also your r*ddit cancer response reveals that you are cringe and bluepilled.

28 minutes until unemployment numbers

>>18096767
Not idea. Just watch the thread and watch futures. It will react faster than any of us reading a report.

>>18096724
I am sure there is a shitload that I don't know that I should. Would love to trade options but don't know shit about it and having a hard time finding a reputable place to learn.


Also, see

>>18096767
Do you add them all together or is it just initial?

>>18096744
they have no oil, but they have some kind of mineral in their mountains that is used in building electronics, oh yeah, and heroin obviously

>>18096766
Isn't selling a put just a limit order?
I want to buy 100 shares of AMD at $39
If I don't get it, I get paid on expiry

>>18096755

>>18096726
What ever they are theyre priced in already

>>18096755
I figured we were going into the relief rally

>>18096746
There's fuckin 2m in California alone.

>>18096079
OH FUCK! OH FUCK! OH FUCK!

https://www.barrons.com/articles/why-the-s-p-500-hasnt-hit-bottom-and-could-fall-another-35-51585169263

>In a note to clients on Wednesday, TS Lombard strategists said the market has more room to fall, citing expectations that earnings for companies in the S&P 500 could fall roughly 30%. That decline, and the effects of the economic slump they see, put the fair value of the S&P 500 closer to 1600 to 1800, down as much as 35% from the closing level of 2475.56 on Wednesday.

>The severe downturn isn’t likely to feed into an immediate recovery once social-distancing measures are eased, in part because central bankers don’t have the same amount of ammunition, or room to cut interest rates, as they did at the start of the last financial crisis. At the same time, years of interest rates near record lows have obscured problems on balance sheets.

>Capital spending tends to follow earnings with at least a six-month lag, so the initial hit to profits from efforts to control the virus may hamper growth later in the year, Dumas adds.

>>18096744
> oil
>Afghanistan
You misspelled opiates.

>>18096733
what asset? the gain is realized the second you write an option.

26 minutes until bull mass suicide

>>18096648
>>18096703

I thought there was a very good chance of relief rally in next couple weeks
>>18096800

I think I made a mistake buying puts that expired in only april. Should have bought them for june at the earliest

>>18096793
That is buying a put. Selling a put is you pocket the premium and if the option ends up in the money, the random who bought your put will exercise it and you must buy 100 shares of AMD at market price for him. When you buy the put you have the right to buy 100 shares of AMD at expiration.

>>18096744
>And why are we in Afghanistan if not to steal their oil?
I'm convinced we went to the middle east to get cheap oil and drugs and ramp up the war machine to recover from the dot com bust.
In other words, war is a solution for bad economies.
>>18096772
Nasdaq.com is awesome.
>>18096789
Alrigiht, bud. Keep learning. I'm most interested in initial jobs, but the overall sentiment.

>>18096808
>listening to a literal Dumas

>>18096816
There's an hour and a bit until markets open?

>>18096812
>opiates

You misspelled rare earth minerals.

>>18096812
The CIA has to raise illegal money to give to terrorists SOMEHOW

>>18096814
you are liable for the potential shares you have to pay out. so
>the gain is realized the second you write an option.
is false. stop trying to ruin this man's life

>>18096817
The past two days were the relief rally

how much longer for jobs report? I can hardly wait

>>18096744
>Oil

Afghanistan doesn’t produce oil you fucking mongoloid

>>18096814
The one you should be covering your option short with dumbass. If you go in naked then godspeed.

founder of robinhood sounds like that? lmao turn on cnbc

>>18096755
bulls are permafaggots, always posting memes with wojaks hugging and touching eachother.

>>18096787
related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVHY9nIPo6s

>>18096834
24mins

It was supposed to go up when the bill passed.

>>18096827
I would believe lithium or something but this is the first I've heard of REMs outside of China and far east Russia.

OH NO NO NO NO

>Futures dropping again
Report must have leaked to the whales. Brace for impact bulls.

Job losses are very bullish paying wages is expensive

>>18096846
The bill includes taking equity stakes in bailed out companies.

>>18096844
>24mins
amazing

>>18096822
>convinced

Convinced? By what? All the memes your parents share on Facebook? If we were in the Middle East for their resources then why are their countries still wealthy? Do some research

>>18096491
>matter of time

nigger there have been 40+ pol transplants in these threads since corona has started

brent put at 15 bucks, opinions ?

>>18096829
This

>>18096819
>Selling a put is you pocket the premium and if the option ends up in the money, the random who bought your put will exercise it and you must buy 100 shares of AMD at market price for him.
Yeah but he can only exercise it at the strike price right?

>>18096853
Afganistan is loaded with silicon.

>>18096859
it’s...
it’s beautiful

O NO BULLBROS WE GOT TOO COKKKYYY

>>18096816
It's already priced in retard

>>18096732
I thought they're holding fire today?

>>18096832
I'm not saying writing naked options is a great idea but let's say VIX goes to one billion while AMD stays flat why would anything be liquidated?

>>18096859
jesus this insider trading should be illegal.

>>18096669
>>18096695
Maybe your Mutt education doesn't teach about wars prior to WW1, but land and resource grabs hugely benefit the victors.

bring it on

LOWEST BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT IN HISTORY FOLKS

>>18096892
It is , you just need to prove it.

>>18096878
Yeah the strike price. But its almost never worth it, the money you made selling the premium on the contract is usually going to be less than 100 shares of the company at that strike price. Its a valid strategy if you add in second positions of it to hedge but if you dont know what it is dont bother. Its risking thousands to make hundreds.

>>18096808
yes , it just there is no beer "virus" no one knows any one who get sick or die ...
Read medical books in order to understand that it is 100% for sure tax money garbing swindle.
Trump already signed fat over billion check to solve "National Crisis" that does not exist.
"Virus" happens every single election.

>first day trading ever yesterday and I bought a few SQQQ shares at 21.17
Is this what it feels to be rich??

>>18096892
Technically all of us should have to post our positions but you're right.

Hope the SEC isn't monitoring this thread

>>18096889
because the price of the option you wrote goes up . writing a put is the same has having -1 long puts. if you short something low and its price goes up you can find yourself in margin call and be forced to realize a loss.

>>18096889
Your account.

>>18096692
True, but your premiums

>>18096882
Another good element to rape mountains for, and this is kind of splitting hairs so forgive my autism but I'm pretty sure silicon isn't considered a rare earth mineral. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element

>>18096899
That's cuz they were all on welfare/disability before the Kung Flu

>>18096895
yes because that totally happens in modern times and stuff. talk about fucking cope fuck off retard.

>>18096866
Sorry. A few towel heads blew up the towers and we spent 20 years trying to punish them. Thank you for your cervix.

>>18096906
What if I unironically want to own the stock?

>>18096924
I get about $11 per put I sell

Oh, it's Thursday. I was supposed to do something today. Hmmm.

18 mins before the end. It's been an honor frens.

Do we sell right after jobs report comes out?

>>18096914
Sell at 26 or 27

Word is they're only checking the circuit breakers to the downside are functioning correctly.
#NEVERBUYING

>>18096909
Kek

>What if there wasn't a virus and China just build a container hospital for kicks?
>Also, the Earth is flat, lizard people run the disc we call Earth and they WATER DOWN LAUBDRY DETERGENT

>>18096933
>What if I unironically want to own the stock?
Boomer, out! This is bobozone

>>18096846
Show us your 1 year

i should have sold my stonks yesterday while they climbed so i could have bought them back cheap

it's time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

>>18096962
Yes.

>>18096909
>"Virus" happens every single election.
Man last year's quarantine sure was fun... oh wait.

>>18096853
There is a reason China is doing all they can to get a foot in Afghanistan. They are neighbors afterall

>>18096962
Kill yourself for being such a faggot fucking retard. I hope you lose everything.

>>18096961
Day trading isn't for me

HOW COULD UNEMPLOYMENT NOT BE PRICED IN IF 5 MILLION PEOPLE WOULD BE UNEMPLOYED AND THOSE 5 MILLION WOULD KNOW THIS??

After the jobs report do we buy or sell EURUSD?

>>18096983
There's actually 300 million unemployed.
t. the 300 million

>>18096857
Holy shit lmfao

>>18096878
>Yeah but he can only exercise it at the strike price right?

The bag you hold when you WRITE a put option is to buy 100 shares at the strike price. Not sure if you're the same anon, but for the AMD example that's 39 x 100, or a $39,000 bag per contract you sell. If the market price goes down to a point where selling into a $39 share price is profitable, someone will exercise the option.

Seems to me like picking up pennies in front of a streamroller, but ymmv.

>>18096869
anybody?

>>18096079
>he bought into the trap
It was so fucking obvious. I spent all fucking day yesterday arguing with anons about this and either because they were just anons shitposting or because they were totally retarded bullkeks out in force everyone just called me a faggot and said the bottom was in. OBVIOUSLY the bottom isn't in. Obviously all the fucking unknowns that cannot be known yet aren't priced it. How stupid would actually have to be to have thought this?

>>18096906
This is wrong

It take some keen sense to make money on options, but you can make a killing if you're ahead of the people ahead of the curve

First learn when to buy stonks and consistently make a profit

Then buy single contracts of options to learn about how they move on speculation and really get a feel for OTM and ITM.

You should be actively trading for years before you jump into options IMO

Then

>>18096571
this is your brain on bobo

>>18096602
can you newfags please learn about the military industrial complex and realize that the US is might be "capitalist" but can go to "Miltary-State" when ever they feel threatened.

1. great depression was caused by FDR's retarded policies

2. WW2 boosted our economy so fucking hard we became a superpower while every other country was eating each others ass out

Bonus: Every war for the past 300 years has been planned

>>18096977
You poor poor man. Tf are you even invested in?

guys spy is down 5 dollars I think unemployment is priced in

>>18097001
i know, it's absolutely disgusting. the way you can tell the market is going to crash further is the average IQ of the simpletons who scream "THIS IS THE BOTTOM" every fucking week.

>>18096869
I'd wait until after the g20 webcall to see what Saudi Arabia says. If they hint at a deal with the US then the price may go up a bit. If they say nothing then sure buy the put.

>>18096999
nice digits

Who the FUCK can be a bull in these times? Only TrumpCucks?

>>18096999
Who the fuck is Brent and why is he such a faggot

>>18096895
Are we not talking about the contemporary era, you fucking retard?

>>18096933
>What if I unironically want to own the stock?
Then you buy the option not sell it. Selling it is giving someone else the right to exercise. Just buy a put or a call of the stock you want and then have in cash 100xstrike price of it to exercise that contract. Anything in the money will usually be exercised by the broker automatically.

>>18097007
He just listens to the posters in SMG and wonders why he loses money

>10 more minutes
Any last words mumus?

>>18096415
its obvious, but if it works it works
>>18096438
>>18096452
>>18096474
>>18096491
>>18096533

I'm also from /pol/ and I have just found out how much I like it here, can't wait to call everyone a reddit nigger. Anyone here want to know how much I love Trump? Inside job jews jews jews red pills are best taken as suppository if red pills are dicks, death to trannies heil jesus

>>18097016
someone didn’t buy the bottom

>>18097011
>priced in

>>18097028
But I'm selling a put to get the premium to buy it at a lower price

>>18097030
Who actually releases these numbers? The DOL?

>>18096932
>2,977 dead in 9/11
>Beer flu has killed just over 1,000
I can't wait for the headlines
>COVID19 MORE DEADLY THAN SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH!!!!!!!

Oh. Right. I'm supposed to flush.
Down it goes.

>>18097032
you're about to find out, you didn't either. You actually bought the top! HAHAHA

>>18096998
>39,000

>>18097046
I'm 100% expecting them to not release anything or fake the numbers.

>>18097032
perfect example right here. same retard who thinks war is good for economies also thinks we're at a bottom this week, just like he thought it the last 4 weeks.

>>18097030
I hope this market pumps on you bobos somehow !!!!

DOWN SHE GOOOOOOOOOOOES

holy fuck you bears are so god damn emotional

you know why we spam "PRICED IN" and "THIS IS THE BOTTOM"

its because it triggers you fucking retards, every single time, why? Because ur wsb/pol tourists that need to LEAVE

>>18097048
Number of cases doubles about every 2.5 days so it won't be long now

>>18096200
Have sex

>LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
>LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

>>18097038
If the price drops the put will be exercised by the other party who buys your put. Thus you wouldnt have any profit. For your put to work it means prices rose which means you cant buy lower, i think you are trying to sell a call to a deluded bull who hands you the premium and you then buy lower.

I GOT THE BILL PASSED WHY WONT STOCK GO UP!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

>>18097006
He's technically correct if he's from a country not as skilled in the art form of badassery.
Germany was crippled after both world wars. Viet nam is only now becoming a great tourist destination. RIP Best Korea.

>>18097059
Never doubt the fed...

>VIX +7.5%
so comfortable

7mins, is this priced in bois? :DDD

>>18096639
A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing, politics, confidence games, or other business areas.

>>18097065
But now real talk. It was the fucking dip and this shitty unemployment numbers are priced in like the stimulus package.

CRAB OR BULL TODAY

>>18097065
I hate wsb cross-posters they should be burned.

>>18097065
>i was only pretending to be retarded
nice try, retard

newbreadwhen

Should've bought more shorts...
I'm Aussie and we only have 1 type of US short ETF and our markets open 9 hours after the US does...

VIX will go over 100 today screencap this

It will be only 500k max, Trump will not allow anything more than that to be published

>>18097058
i didn’t say all war was good for economies i said that ww2 was u retard /pol/fag

Aaah I sold half my puts yesterday why did I lose faith

>>18096514
>Wagie gets $1200
>wagie has enough money to pay rent
For like a month or two. He's right, $1200 just isn't enough given that many people are going to be out of work for several months at least. Even if the risk posed by the virus was essentially over by Easter, which it won't be, it'd still take some time for things to ramp back up again.

>>18097065
That's priced in bro

>>18097065
Bears are the most based and alpha males of this forum. Get fukt faggot

>>18097104
how do I profit from this?

>>18097103
>I'm Aussie and we
Become a us citizen. Only way to /make it/.

>>18097115
Your mom is priced in

>>18097109
>i just pointed out a counterexample of something i don't actually believe for no reason
nice try, retard

>>18097122
TVIX

The street has jobs numbers at 4M, JPM and Goldman have it at 6M. We all know they rosy up their internal number before they give it to investors.

Who is saying only 3M? That's a fantasy land projection.

>>18097122
Buy vxx this morning

>>18097126
At tree fiddy

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

>>18097119
The one's that held their puts anyway. You bought and held, right fellow bearbro?

>>18096998
You don't have to own or buy stocks to trade options

>>18097006
>great depression was caused by FDR's retarded policies
This is just silly anon. FDR wasn't the president when the great depression began

>bulls are already losing it

>>18097132
Because today’s report only recorded up to March 23

never doubt the FED bearfags

wheresthenewbread?

>>18097145
I’m all in gold and silver

IS ZE BEAR PREPPED?

>>18097128
yes because i love making fags like you mad, which you are

>>18097049
fucking based doodoo poster

>>18097093
holy shit I might actually break even on my investopedia trading platform today

>>18097129
>>18097133

uh split the difference 50/50?

>>18097097
yeah /smg/ was unironically the best general out of the boards i visit, maybe tied with /brg/ but there is only so much you can say about battle rifles so its a pretty slow general, but now we have reddit cancer swarm of dibshits that fill up threads with dogshit

>>18097049
My toilet handle broke and all the fucking hardware stores are closed now I have to pull the fucking plunger thing to get it to flush and it splashes me every time

What are we selling at sqqq bobros?

>>18097006
>1. great depression was caused by FDR's retarded policies
I dont understand how one ends up this fucking stupid. Fucking kill yourself you dumb faggot

Money comes at 5:30, sorry bears...

>>18097110
>Aaah I sold half my puts yesterday why did I lose faith
thats about the right amount of greed

>>18097163
all of your arguments play out exactly like every retard i've ever encountered, so i can't say im convinced at all by waht you're saying. i still firmly believe that you were being genuine and now you're trying to desperately save face just like every retard before you has done. have a good day, bullcuck.

>>18097096
you are about to lose a lot of money if you eykshully believe what you wrote there bud

>>18097174
/balt/ is nice, so is /tfg/

I got margin called for shorting MGM this is one gay fucking stock

>>18096967
check it out! election happen not every year, but before every election happens "virus"
0r grabbing money to solve non existing problem from tax payers pockets

3.28M

3.2 million lads

>>18097006
these are the people telling you this is the bottom

>>18097203
>>18097205
How? Wasn't cali already 2 mil?

So buying at the dip when it comes and going long is the only option for a poor idiot, like me, who didn't hold onto any puts of buy any short, right?

WEW
E
W

>>18097203
So did we beat estimates?

>>18097156
https://www.wivb.com/watch-news-4-now/

BULLS ON PARADE

>>18097177
What state?
Oklahoma here, and Lowe's is considered essential.

>>18097179
I have a few limit orders selling them gradually up to $30. But I also just want any profit at all, so if I think it's in danger of dropping I'll probably just sell off whenever I can.

>>18097163
get out and go back to containment plz
you will never play with the big boys, you will never go above 45k a year :^)

https://www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf
>>18097217
some peoples estimates yeah, its high

3.28 MILLION PRICED IN

Bullbros don't forget to buy the dip this afternoon. It'll be a golden bull run till the end of April when earnings come out

>>18097205
That number will decline as more people die from the virus #Bullish

So if we bought the dip, hold for today? Surely it won’t be too bad.

check out that green dildo lmaoo

>literally highest estimate hit
>futures go up
POWEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL

>>18097221
OH NO NO NO MUMU
ARE YOU OK MUMU

I was expecting 4 million new

>>18097203
>>18097205
ITS OVER BULLFAGS. DIE YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT DIE

YOU TOLD US FOR YEARS STONKS ONLY GO UP. YOU LAUGHED AT US FOR MISSING OUT ON EASY GAINS

PREPARE TO TAKE SOME EASY *JUST* UP YOUR ASSHOLES

SPY CLIMBING TOLD YOU IT WAS PRICED IN

3.2MM NEETS

futures going fucking crazy trying to figure out if its bear or long

>>18097221
SOURCE

>>18096808
A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing, politics, confidence games, or other business areas.

what do we buy

>>18097235
Kek

>>18097252

>>18097173
Sure

>it's going up
can't make this shit up

LITERALLY THE HIGHEST IN 50+ YEARS

W E W

>>18097264
clown world

That's it, i'm buying BA calls
Clown world confirmed

Shit, I was sure it would be closer to 7M. Those numbers don't seem legit, but ok opm.

>>18097262
holy fuck i missed the boat

>>18097252
https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar#graph=110778

here fren

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~

>That Boeing pump
Fed is a nigger

>>18097255
If you have over 25k in swing trading the casino/airlines stocks has been great the past week

>>18097262
lmaoooo

These don’t include anything recent and with the new stimulus giving unemployment a huge bump expect this number to grow for a while

>>18097174
I like /brg/ too but like you said it's never as lively as /smg/. It really was great before redditfags started posting their gains and making it to the front page using our advice. Hell the /smg/ tripfags are better than wsb posters

>>18097278
It's literally highest unemployment ever and more to come.

>>18097264
>>18097272
sell the news, nothing new

>>18096721
I think you want to stick to buying options instead...

>>18097299
priced in

>>18097273
its gona dump now

>1% of US population goes full NEET
>JEROME GET TO PUMPING

>>18096148

>>18096148

>>18096148

>>18096148

>>18097177
Got a welder? Or some JB weld?

>>18097278
Previous record was <700k in 1982

>>18097289
Wait what s going on? Is the market open?

>>18097310
let him get fucked

>>18097324
What percent unemployment would this be?

>>18096755
Kek this isn't even bad, seriously is this the best you can do bears?

>>18097333
It's the plastic arm that pulls the plunger up, it snapped.

>>18097304
>Taking raw numbers as comparison instead of percentages and per capital data

>>18097215
Probably but you're probably getting lucky as it's unlikely to be a total bloodbath. The Senate passed the bill and is out for a month. This means there is nothing waiting in the wings to rescue the market so ironically the panic will be muted.

FUCK YOU JEROME

HOW THE FUCK ARE FUTURES UP

Umm guys wtf is going on, is the market just stunned?

HOW MANY UNEMPLOYED MURRICANS????

>>18097348
If its the standard shaped straight ones, wal mart carries them, most of them are still open.

>>18097177
MacGyver it.

>>18097388
Boeing

>>18097398
thanks then i'll try that

>>18097388
>>18097381
>>18097321

>>18097388
FEDS DESPERATELY PUMPING BOEING

>>18097398
Also home improvement store and I think DG would even have them

What are you people doing staring at futures when pre markets are live?

>>18097396
almost 3.3M

>>18097177
fill a jug with water and steadily dump it into your toilet, every toilet flushes when encountering that much water flow

>>18097417
very nice indeed

When is boeing and the other boomer bulltraps going to pop?

>>18097264
>>18097272


This entire economy is beyond fucked up. 3.3 MILLION jobless claims and the market is going up.

>>18097466
On market open

>>18097328
lol fake thread