/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.18075365]

>NOOOOOOOO, THINK OF THE RICH PEOPLE

[Anonymous No.18075407]

>>18075365
>no think of the neets

[Anonymous No.18075429]

>>18075365
IT'S OK TO BE RICH
faggot

[Anonymous No.18075450]

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THINK OF THE LANDLORDS. HOW WILL THEY EXTRACT WEALTH FROM THE WORKING CLASS

[Anonymous No.18075454]

>>18075365
>if you prevent the economy from collapsing you only help rich people we all need to be jobless and poor so the proletariat can rise up except for me im in the nomenklatura also Orange Man Bad (tm)

[Anonymous No.18075486]

To be fair, the rich people are job creators, they pay more in taxes than we earn in a lifetime and are pillars of society we should strive to be like.

[Anonymous No.18075500]

>>18075450

[Anonymous No.18075537]

>>18075450
Move somewhere you can afford retard.

[Anonymous No.18075554]

>>18075486
Except they don’t really do any of those things.

[Anonymous No.18075639]

>tfw from rich generational wealth family
>tfw Trump is looking out for me

[Anonymous No.18075686]

>>18075486
>t. 13 year old troll posting b8

[Anonymous No.18075706]

>>18075537
Americans will be moving back in the caves by the end of the year, so it's all right.

[Anonymous No.18075749]

>>18075450

[Anonymous No.18075765]

>>18075686
He's right though.

[Anonymous No.18075861]

>>18075537
>just move bro
>just find a better job bro
>just eat less bro
>just cut out that starbucks in the morning that will save you bro

[Anonymous No.18075932]

>>18075365
Oh look the retard blowjob mouth-fetish freak again yeeey

[Anonymous No.18075992]

>>18075765
>t. 13 year old troll posting b8

[Anonymous No.18076102]

>>18075861
>noooo what do you mean I cant live in the city like the characters from my favorite sitcoms and spend $8 a day on coffee and $30 a day on takeout while working a job that doesnt pay enough nooooo capitalism has failed us save me bernie

[Anonymous No.18076140]

>>18076102
how many people do you think actually live like that? do you have any studies that try to estimate this figure? or are you just assuming that everyone else is an idiot and that you are the smart person?

[Anonymous No.18076259]

>>18076140
Most of the people I went to hs with and most of my coworkers at every job Ive had are like that. Seethe more tranny

[Anonymous No.18076280]

>>18076259
you do realise that's just anecdotal evidence, right? it literally doesn't prove anything about the entire country, it only proves things about your acquaintances
>the people i went to school with were like this, therefore the entire country is like this

[Anonymous No.18076282]

>>18076140
>>18075861
>>>18075861
>>18076140
>DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!

[Anonymous No.18076283]

>>18076259
>muh anecdotes

[Anonymous No.18076292]

>>18075486
>a 14 year old who doesn't understand how the economy works
>still shitposts

[Anonymous No.18076322]

>>18076282
>some people are like this, therefore everyone that lives paycheck to paycheck is like this as well
look, i hate these type of people as much as you do, but don't pretend like they are the root of the problem of today's economy

[Anonymous No.18076335]

>>18076282
>dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us.
lol. Barcades are so fucking stupid. Wow, I can play Pac-Man and Donkey Kong that I have played 25 years ago and could emulate right this second from my browser. Epic! I'm so glad that I live near one!!!

[Anonymous No.18076339]

shut it wagie, gimme my NEETbux NOW!

[Anonymous No.18076382]

>>18075500

[Anonymous No.18076383]

>>18075365
Me being out of work and the markets taking a shit is affecting me more than the actual virus ever will so yeah let's get back on track here.

[Anonymous No.18076393]

>>18076280
>>18076283

>anecdotal evidence
>has never read studies showing most americans live with credit card debt
>has never read the studies showing most americans get loans for cars well beyond what they can afford based on their income
>has never read studies showing how people on welfare spend money on frivolous things because "they deserve it"
>cannot correlate widespread "anecdotal evidence" with statistical evidence that validates it and see it in the broader context of one of the defining aspects of modern America which is a large # of the population living beyond their means but over spending on non essential things thanks to credit with ultra high interest rates

You trannies aren't as smart as you think you are please keep crying because spending your income on starbucks means you're living on credit cards but its ok because you totally deserve it

[Anonymous No.18076399]

>>18076382
>tpusa
>libertarian

[Anonymous No.18076405]

>>18076383
why have so many cuckservatives invaded this board as of late. go back to the facebook and tweeter.

[Anonymous No.18076424]

>>18076393
care to link some of these studies?

[Anonymous No.18076425]

>>18075365
>>18075450
>>18075554
>>18075686
>>18075861
>>18076140
>>18076283
>>18076292
Kill yourselves.

[Anonymous No.18076443]

>>18076425
great debating skills, you really showed me why i was wrong

[Anonymous No.18076479]

>>18076424

>do you have studies to prove most americans arent relying on credit card and other types of high interest debt to sustain a lifestyle beyond their income

No fuck you im shitposting on my phone from work did you never take an economics class in college or something? Google it you stupid nigger and from there go on jstor and other academic journals and follow up

[Anonymous No.18076480]

>>18076443
cuckservatives don't know how to argue because their beliefs are retarded

[Anonymous No.18076503]

>>18076443
>>18076480
You don't understand basic economics which means your understanding at an adult age is less than those in 7th grade.

There is no arguing to be had with you.

[Anonymous No.18076567]

>>18076479
>economics class in college
I'm studying chemical engineering, why the fuck would there be an economics module in my course?

>Google it you stupid nigger and from there go on jstor and other academic journals and follow up
Yeah right, the classic "there are loads of studies, but i can't be bothered to link any of them"
I'm not here to argue your case for you, nor am I here to find evidence for you. It is your responsibility to find evidence to support your own assertions. Have you never heard of burden of proof? If no evidence is presented, then I can just use Hitchen's razor and you have 0 arguments

>>18076503
how have you concluded that i don't understand basic economics?

[Anonymous No.18076570]

>>18076503
>it's another "ur dumb" response instead of an argument
keep proving us right, cuck

[Anonymous No.18076585]

>>18076405
Please explain in detail what you define a cuckservative as and why I am one.

[Anonymous No.18076590]

>>18075861
Or you could just start being valuable enough to afford your lifestyle

Oh wait

[Anonymous No.18076612]

>>18076567
From your posts in this thread.

>>18076570
Do you consider yourself to be smart, given that you as an adult know less than people in high school?

[Anonymous No.18076652]

>>18076585
Anyone who is on /biz/ to make money instead of spamming /pol/ and /x/ threads is one

[Anonymous No.18076656]

>>18076102
>>18076282
NOOOOOOOOO you can't just point out the flaws in the system like that. I literally can't believe you just suggested that people advocate for their class interests like that. I just literally can't right now. Rich people have to get all the money or else they wont give the rest of us jobs AHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.18076718]

>>18076590
I believe that if you work full time (so, 40 hours a week minimum), you deserve a living wage so that you don't live with the shit. This means if you mop floors or work at a call centre you earn the same baseline that an stockbroker would, and both are entitled to the same baseline of living (so, proper healthcare, decent housing). This is the definition of a minimum living wage, something which you don't believe in.

You don't believe that a janitor deserves to buy a house, even if they work 50 or 60 hours a week. Well I do. Raise the minimum wage to $15/hr

[Anonymous No.18076777]

>>18075486
No serious economist believes in trickle down wealth. Holy shit dude, even republicans have backed off this shit meme.

[Anonymous No.18076780]

>>18076718
>Raise the minimum wage to $15/hr
Why stop at $15? Why not $50, or $100?

In fact, why not give everyone a Ferrari car while we are at it?

[Anonymous No.18076850]

>>18076780
You literally didn't read what I posted.
The minimum wage exists so that people can live a minimum life, not to buy a Ferrari. I'm not advocating for everyone to buy a Ferrari, I'm only saying that if you work full time you deserve to be able to save for a house deposit, you deserve to have good healthcare, you deserve to build up an emergency fund, you deserve to not have to rely on food stamps. Of course I'm not saying you deserve a house by the shore or a Ferrari, that would be absurd.

What part do you not understand?

[Anonymous No.18076877]

>>18075486

[Anonymous No.18076893]

>>18075407
make colberts smile like the one on the left. he does that goofy face like he’s mocking ur retardation

[Anonymous No.18076897]

>>18076850
Why is the minimum wage capped arbitrarily at $15/h? Why not $25/h? Or $50/h? What about $1000/h?

>you deserve
You deserve absolutely nothing. There is no such thing as deserving.

[Anonymous No.18076917]

>>18076567
>muh hitchens razor
>cant even google

If you need studies to tell you most americans live on credit beyond their means you are so absolutely fucking stupid you are probably unaware of how stupid you are. You sound even dumber when you bring up terms like that tranny faggot here you go I just googled this on my phone while taking a shit go read through it as a starter. If you are studying engineering you should be at least familiar with academic research and should be able to use your school resrouces and journals to do your own research faggot https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/demographics/

[Anonymous No.18076926]

>>18075486
>15 year old who thinks videogames make him smart

[Anonymous No.18076967]

>>18076897
>Why is the minimum wage capped arbitrarily at $15/h?
Because that's the baseline needed for living a normal baseline life

>You deserve absolutely nothing. There is no such thing as deserving.
So if I work 60 hours mopping floors, I deserve nothing?

[Anonymous No.18077023]

>>18076656
>If I cant afford my daily starbucks and takeout on my gender studies degree then the system has failed

Kek

[Anonymous No.18077081]

>>18077023
>we must ban all subjects besides STEM subjects, that will fix everything

[Anonymous No.18077134]

>>18075429
No

[Anonymous No.18077194]

>>18076967
>so if I work 60 hours mopping floors, I deserve nothing?

[Anonymous No.18077201]

>>18075365
>AAAAH BRO I'M GONNA COOF SO HARD WHATEVER HAPPENS HAPPENS BRO

[Anonymous No.18077222]

>>18077194
well ok, there's nothing to debate here, we have different fundamental beliefs

[Anonymous No.18077234]

>>18076777
Checked

[Anonymous No.18077241]

>>18077081

[Anonymous No.18077243]

>>18077194
It's a special kind of retard to think that they've made some sort of argument when their "argument" is a cartoon doodle

[Anonymous No.18077248]

>>18077081
I have a non STEM degree and certificates on things like Cinema studies, Im just not retarded enough to screech like a commie because my Chicano feminism intersectionality thesis isnt enough to make living in the big city affordable. Nice strawman though, please keep crying while you dilate just dont forget you will never be a real woman.

[Anonymous No.18077254]

>>18077222
their beliefs are "i like to troll and post edgy shit on the internet"

[Anonymous No.18077269]

>>18076259
Look, I know this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy's friend who had this problem. Trust me this is everyone even though I back this up on weak evidence.

[Anonymous No.18077282]

>>18077248
>says everyone critiquing capitalism has a feminism intersectionality degree
>accuses others of strawman arguments

[Anonymous No.18077305]

>>18077254
nah i think they believe it, they literally believe that whoever earns the most amount of money adds the most value to society
so if i'm writing meme javascript websites for boomer shop owners i'm more important than cancer researchers who have to beg on their knees for funds, or that CEOs work thousands of times harder than their employees

[Anonymous No.18077308]

>>18077269

Refer to >>18076393 next time read the whole thread before replying newfag

[Anonymous No.18077334]

>>18077305
maybe, I just find it hard to believe anyone is that retarded

[Anonymous No.18077344]

>>18077241
>>18077194
Actual NPCs

[Anonymous No.18077373]

>>18075486
Yet Amazon didn't pay any taxes last year.
Lmao

[Anonymous No.18077388]

>>18077308
Ok, old fuck, maybe you should take your own advice and not reply to obvious shitposts

[Anonymous No.18077396]

>>18076393
>>has never read studies showing how people on welfare spend money on frivolous things because "they deserve it"
Yeah it's crazy that they're allowed to buy things like candy and gatorade, the same frivolous luxuries that one can buy from a maximum security prison.

>>18076479
>do you have studies
>No fuck you
lol

[Anonymous No.18077423]

>>18076393
>thinks someone living outside of their means is everyone elses fault, besides the person doing it

Ffs can schools get back in session? These kids are literally fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.18077432]

>>18077373
inb4 "taxes are theft! they have every right to not pay any taxes!"

[Anonymous No.18077438]

>>18076967
Who sets the baseline? What is based on? What do you do when prices inevitably rises? What is a living wage that is universal for all, not everyone has the same wants or needs.

You deserve nothing, yes.

If I work 100 hours a week crafting wooden flutes, do I deserve $15/h even though no one wants to buy my flutes? Remember I worked 100 hours.

[Anonymous No.18077462]

>>18077201
What did this guy do that was wrong?

[Anonymous No.18077476]

>>18077438
>What do you do when prices inevitably rises?
have you ever heard of indexing things to inflation? you ask this like it's a problem nobody has ever thought of before.

[Anonymous No.18077504]

>>18077476
So when inflation inevitably shoots through the roof you will just increase this arbitrarily set wage to match with inflation?

Do you not see the problem here?

You can't create something out of nothing. How can someone pay you $15/h if you only produce $8/h?

[Anonymous No.18077525]

>>18077462
quarantine isn't just about you not catching the virus, it's also about you not spreading the virus in case you have it. by going out and partying in the midst of a pandemic, he's being inconsiderate of the people around him. in fact, as a young person it's even more dangerous because his immune system is stronger and it would take more time before any symptoms of the virus started appearing, so he would be a super spreader

[Anonymous No.18077532]

>>18077462
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
>orange line go up wheee

[Anonymous No.18077542]

>>18077388
>gets rekt
>muh dogememe

Big yikes

[Anonymous No.18077565]

>>18077504
>You can't create something out of nothing.
Yet the fed does this every day when they buy trillions of worthless assets from banks to save their asses every time shit hits the fan

[Anonymous No.18077613]

>>18077565
Indeed, and they are ruining the dollar and the market by doing it. Buy gold and silver.

[Anonymous No.18077665]

Republicans literally want to give away 2T to corporations and the rich with no strings attached.

[Anonymous No.18077666]

>>18076424
Go to any second-tier city in USA and see for yourself.

t. lives in shithole
...LAMBO!!!

[Anonymous No.18077719]

>>18077613

It seemed to work for the last 20T. Retarded PM fag

[Anonymous No.18077756]

>>18077665
Socialise the losses, privatise the profits!

[Anonymous No.18077759]

>>18076897

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE PAID ENOUGH TO HAVE THE NEWEST ELECTRONICS AND ANYTHING THEY WANT

its a carrot on a stick faggot, you want something, do something of value, when you are doing stuff at 15/hr you are basically doing stuff a monkey/retard/robot could do.

[Anonymous No.18077761]

>>18077719
But it's not working. What you are witnessing unfold right now is due to this very thing not working.

[Anonymous No.18077770]

>>18075450
Based. Fuck L*ndlords. Mao was right.

[Anonymous No.18077795]

>>18077759
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE PAID ENOUGH TO HAVE THE NEWEST ELECTRONICS AND ANYTHING THEY WANT
Again, you didn't read what I said. I said that everyone deserves a baseline of life. Healthcare, not using foodstamps, building up savings and an emergency fund, putting down a deposit for a house.
I never talked about the latest electronic gadgets

[Anonymous No.18077800]

>>18077761

Christ you retards are dense. The virus is what’s suppressing the market right now; not your Ron Paul 1840 sound money fantasies. Trump is a retard who thinks that financial incentives are what’s going to counter a pandemic. If Covid disappeared tomorrow the economy would bounce back.

PM backed currencies are an abject failure and only useful if you want more frequent and severe downturns like in the past.

[Anonymous No.18077837]

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT PASS THE STIMULUS BILL WITHOUT ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS FOR TEH ETHNIC MINORITIES AND WOMEN

[Anonymous No.18077867]

>>18077795
Yea retard, when you as replaceable as a robot, you dont get free healthcare, you dont get a cool condo where YOU want to live, you dont get to eat what YOU want to eat. Live or die, I really dont care, you are replaceable and if you cant help yourself or are too stupid to live the lifestyle you've earned yourself... OH NO NOT THE TRASHCANS ON FIRE... you commies arent even a threat.

tl;dr;kill yourself food delivery engineer, im not tipping and im not paying more for what you do

[Anonymous No.18077894]

>>18077867
>you commies arent even a threat.
>raising the minimum wage is now communism
I always knew Americans were stupid

[Anonymous No.18077924]

>>18077867
>wanting healthcare, shelter, and food
>these are all unreasonable demands
>but boeing getting $40B for nothing is fine

[Anonymous No.18078065]

>>18077305
Nah I was just scrolling and saw this question and posted it because I don’t come here for rational discussion

[Anonymous No.18078108]

>>18077867
Please seek psychiatric help. Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

[Anonymous No.18078138]

>>18077800
If it's not the virus it's something else. The market was always an unhealthy massive bubble propped up by stupid government and and even more stupid central bank.

If this is allowed, as it would in a free market, all fiat currency would go to 0.

Gold and silver is money, everything else is credit.

[Anonymous No.18078141]

>>18075500
i thought these people dont actually exist, but a meme.

[Anonymous No.18078162]

>>18077867
You actually do if you don't live in a contry wich serves the interest of 1% of its population

[Anonymous No.18078198]

>>18075486
>and are pillars of society we should strive to be like.

[Anonymous No.18078202]

>>18076382
the gun sticker is right though

[Anonymous No.18078304]

>>18077894
yeah but you never knew how stupid until this event

[Anonymous No.18078355]

>>18077894
>artificially raising the wage is good
Learn basic economics imbecile

[Anonymous No.18078462]

>>18077525
>In pandemics, certain individuals are sometimes found to be so-called super-spreaders, capable of infecting dozens or even hundreds of others. In the 2004 SARS epidemic, also caused by a coronavirus, one person in Canada was linked to 128 cases in a hospital.
>No super-spreaders have been identified in the current outbreak
Read this off an article yesterday, you guys think this guy could be the first super spreader? XD

[Anonymous No.18078491]

>>18078355
so you support getting rid of the minimum wage entirely?

[Anonymous No.18078558]

>>18078491
Indeed, the real minimum wage is 0. Artificially changing that will do no good.

[Anonymous No.18078572]

>>18075500
HANS!!!!!!!!