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18025907 No.18025907 [Reply] [Original]

Is it fair that the federal reserve can print trillions of dollars to buy worthless assets from banks so that they don't collapse, while they can't print a single dollar for the things the people need, e.g. healthcare?

>> No.18025953

why didn't you save Sanders American taxpayers??

>> No.18026020

Because Banks, the military, and the housing market are more important than the health and education of John Q. Plebeian

>> No.18026098

Whats the opposite of communism?
Where instead of the means of production being owned by the people; the people are owned by the means of production?

>> No.18026135

>>18026098

Literally capitalism, the owners of the means of production control the people. Marx and Engels were unironically right.

>> No.18026157

>>18026098
>>18026135
So could you two settle on perhaps, a third way?

>> No.18026244

>>18026157
Fascism disproves Fascism.

>> No.18026285

>>18026157

An ideal system would be somewhat akin to a (more) democratic version of Augustus who generally supports small business and the plebs by restraining the worst impulses of the patricians and having those who try to reinstate a corrupt oligarchy straight up murdered by the plebs, reminding the elite that the only reason they prosperous and not slaughtered is because he can keep the plebs in line by making sure they have enough money to raise a family, have a home, get healthcare, retirement etc.

>> No.18026307

>>18026244
Ok boomer

>> No.18026319

>>18026285

Only reason they are prosperous*.

So yes, a bit of a third way. You need the threat of authoritarian quasi-socialism to keep the capitalists from becoming too greedy and ruining society, but you need at least small scale capitalists to efficiently allocate resources since state planning isn't quite as effective at that.

>> No.18026353

>>18026157
Non-usurious feudalism

>> No.18026399

>>18025907
>fair
well lets look at who approved the wall street bailout of 08 and didnt approve the senate bill giving those in need some protection
>bonus
who was speaker both times

>> No.18026416

>>18026399
i don't fucking vote you retard, the american political system is a joke

>> No.18026464

>>18026157
the capitalists and workers both owning the means of production

>> No.18026484
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18026484

>>18026416
>i dont fucking vote

>> No.18026514

>>18026484
i live in europe you idiot, god americans are so stupid

>> No.18026542

>>18026464

So democratic corpo-syndicalism? That'd be cool to try out desu.

>> No.18026552

>>18026514
>lives in europe
>wall street
>federal reserve
oh so you have no skin in the game and your opinions are worthless gotcha

>> No.18026613

>>18026552
how do i have no skin in the game? when america coughs europe catches a cold, don't you remember?

>> No.18026684

>>18026613
back to your op
>print trillions of dollars to buy worthless assets
keeps your entire financial system afloat
>things people need
and doesnt affect you in the least

>america coughs
looks like china did and you caught it no?

>> No.18026730

>>18025907

they can print, but more and more people wake up and see what scam FED is

FED has been total scam from day one, when FED founded 1913

FED is private organization that create money/debt by thin air, and loan it to US and collect intrest of this money created by air

so its mathematical fact that its impossible to pay to debt to FED back, because of interest they charge from day one when FED loan you to money, and all money FED create is debt, so now there is more debt slaves for FED than ever

you should listen these truths about money

THE TRUTH ABOUT MONEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWcVxssAs2g

David Icke - A Brilliant Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u9mozrbmjc

money is illusion, these controllers knows that, money is also controlling tool

there is nothing back in world reserve currency US dollar, FED can print US dollar as much its wants

do you think that US is never going to be pay back its debt, of course not, this is just psychological game

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

but they demand that you have to pay all your mortgage debt back, because this FED money is debt, and peasants are debt slaves, its a perfect control mechanism by elite that you are wage slave

>> No.18027021

bump

>> No.18027686

money is illusion, there is nothing back in US dollar which is world reserve currency

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the reason they need to print is because you goys aren't paying your debts!

the banks entire business model is run off of the interest you goys pay them! what happens when you goys dont pay? YOU PAY!