/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.18005453]

If the government can print 5 trillion to bailout the banks, then why can't the government print 500 billion to provide:

>universal healthcare
>universal guaranteed housing
>federal jobs guaranteed with $30/hour minimum wage
>free college and university
>green new deal

Does the US hate normal people and love porkies that much?

[Anonymous No.18005493]

>>18005453
because thats not how modern American slavery works

[Anonymous No.18005537]

because, uh, hyperinflation, goy.

[Anonymous No.18005566]

JEWS
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[Anonymous No.18005666]

Why not just print and give everyone a million dollars, then everyone will be rich and there will be no poverty at all!

[Anonymous No.18005706]

>>18005666
>stupid strawman argument
>satanic trips
checks out

[Anonymous No.18005756]

>>18005453
Great idea anon you are a genius you should be the economic minister of Venezuela or Zymbabwe

[Anonymous No.18005765]

>>18005453
>capitalism is organized crime
How can people be this retarded? USSR had socialism and it was extremely centralized, which by definition is more prone to corruption.

[Anonymous No.18005785]

Because Rush Limbaugh and Hannity said that would be really bad for billionaires or something, I don’t remember

[Anonymous No.18005948]

>>18005666
nice trips, but OP is right a minority can be given a lot without affecting anything.

Like college aged students can be given 20k a year, free college, healthcare, and housing, and be cut off after a bachelors.

[Anonymous No.18006076]

Emergency measures in a crisis are not long term solutions.
Temporary problems with liquidity increasing short term demand for USD does not mean USD is deflationary in the long term.
That said, as automation increases there will be long term deflationary pressure on USD and some of these measures may become the new normal. Not for a few years yet.

[Anonymous No.18006078]

>>18005453
Based. I’m a big John Sakars fan too.

https://youtu.be/l3nhg9B-aXk

[Anonymous No.18006100]

If capitalism is organized crime
But taxation is theft
Then how is anyone supposed to not end up in jail or wherever the anarchist equivalent is

[Anonymous No.18006104]

/leftypol/ in a nutshell.
>Uneducated on Marxism.
>"Everything should be free"
>Constant thinking no action
>Fetishizes revolution but against guns

[Anonymous No.18006110]

>>18005756
you don't know the first thing about either of those countries other than some dumb meme you saw on facebook

[Anonymous No.18006123]

>>18005453
Easier to burn down the outhouse than install plumbing

[Sage No.18006125]

>>18005453
Fuck off leftpo, go back to sucking rainbow trannies

[Anonymous No.18006135]

>>18005453
pull yourself up by your bootstraps bucko

[Anonymous No.18006147]

>>18005948
Inflation is a hidden tax on everyone who holds dollars, so you still pay for it in the end.

[Anonymous No.18006163]

>>18006104
Anarchists aren’t against guns, you fucking idiot. Check out some of the ancom subreddits.

[Anonymous No.18006166]

>>18005666
satan confirms

[Anonymous No.18006193]

Everyone deserves clean water.

That is one of my thinks.
Everybody deserves food.
That is one of my thinks.
Everyone deserves housing.
That is one of my thinks.
Everybody deserves clothing.
That is one of my thinks.
Thank you for listening to my thinks.
Change the world before the ship sinks.
We deserve to get our needs met.
No monetary system, no more debt.
Thank you for listening to my thinks.
We've lots to learn. Send some links.
We can share memes to wake people up.
Can we heal the world? The answer is yup.
Health care should be free.
That is one of my thinks.
Public transit should be free.
That is one of my thinks.
Free college for everyone.
That is one of my thinks.
Free internet for everyone.
That is one of my thinks.
One think, two thinks, three thinks, four.
Think all day, then think some more.
Think about the revolution every day.
Change the whole world. Whaddaya say?
Five thinks, six thinks, seven thinks, eight.
Question everything. This feels great.
Be the best solutionaries we can be.
Lead the way to a shareocracy.

[Anonymous No.18006208]

>>18006163
you've got to go back nigger

[Anonymous No.18006238]

>>18005453
We would:
1) lose the reserve currency as other nations dispute this and come up with alternatives to the swift banking system
2) completely debase the currency.
3) experience extreme short term gain and permanent long term pain via the total loss of purchasing power for the USD.

[Anonymous No.18006250]

>>18006163
>is a communist
>is from reddit
Excuse me while I die of shock

[Anonymous No.18006287]

This is bait citing retard demsoc talking points but yeah ngl would be great to live in Cuba or Vietnam right now.

[Anonymous No.18006329]

>>18006208
>>18006250
You guys are as sophisticated as a simple computer script. There are a lot of ancom subreddits. Maybe retards like you should do your due diligence. Ancoms aren’t against guns.

[Anonymous No.18006374]

>>18005453
jannies: can we start killing these commie threads? this is not biz. its discord tranny spam. please permanently ip range ban them.

[Anonymous No.18006474]

>>18006374
Waaaaaaaaah not my heckin safe spacerino!!!!

[Anonymous No.18006520]

>>18006374
We should leave this up as a testament to stupidity and a reminder to newfags of how dumb communists are.

[Anonymous No.18006622]

america is full of cucks

[Anonymous No.18006690]

>>18006622
jesus why is it so hard for commies to make a good meme

[Anonymous No.18006708]

>>18006110
if those countries are so great then why don't you move there you fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.18006736]

>>18005453
Wells Fargo is not getting a bail out because of what happened in 2008. They will be shutting down, board members already selling their stocks. Capitalism is fair, we are just in crazy times.

[Anonymous No.18006808]

>>18005453
cost more then 500 bill dog try 500 trill. your simple answer to these big complex problems should be your first clue your being taken for a ride my man

[Anonymous No.18007115]

>>18006193
>Lead the way to a shareocracy.
It is called African Tribalism you fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.18007295]

capitalism is not perfect by any means but any other system is worse.

[Anonymous No.18007327]

>>18006690
>being against neoliberalism makes you a communist

[Anonymous No.18007378]

>>18007327
Literally says nazbol in the bottom right, tard

>NOOOOO THESE BOLSHEVIKS AREN'T ACTUALLY REMOTELY RELATED TO COMMUNISTS AT ALL THEY'RE IN FACT ANTI-COMMUNISTS BECAUSE THEY'RE BOLSHEVIKS WHO DON'T LIKE HOLLYWOOD AND PAEDOPHILIA NOOO

[Anonymous No.18007544]

>>18005453
Because then all the usd that arabs own will drop in value, the usd that they use to purchase things not produced in usa (99.9% of all things) have to be converted essiantelly to other currencies, so why convert, why deal with middle man instead of just selling oil for euros, yen, yuan etc

[Anonymous No.18007654]

The federal reserve is not the government. They are private. Learn the very basics of the monetary system then come back and attempt to ask your question.

[Anonymous No.18008315]

>>18006110
Im venezuelan and lived under chavizmo. You dont know the first thing about socialism because you have never lived it and only know what you saw on a shitty meme on reddit. Once again commies prove themselves to be less than human

[Anonymous No.18008345]

>>18006708
>some dude responds with another facebook tier meme

>>18008315
>Im venezuelan
sure you are

[Anonymous No.18008349]

Uhh, because that's communism sweetie :)

[Anonymous No.18008436]

>>18008345
The marxist shrieks in pain as he strikes you. You mad you got called out for being a little faggot who doesn't know the first thing about socialism?

>metete un palo por el culo marico mamerto de mierda

[Anonymous No.18008545]

>>18006163
I don't get how anarcho communism is a thing wouldn't you need a state/hierarchy to enforce the communism?

[Anonymous No.18008588]

>>18006329
how can anarchists expect to extrapolate anything onto other anarchists? How can anarchists as a grout be for/against anything? I don't understand anarcho communism at all can you help me?

[Anonymous No.18008619]

>>18008545
All communism is anarchist, the state is supposed to wither away since it's just a way to enforce class hierarchy.
In reality, its impossible for a variety of reasons. An interesting one is "homers" which is where workers secretly use public capital for personal benefit.

[Anonymous No.18008685]

>>18008619
The state is supposed to wither away?! That would never work either!

[Anonymous No.18008773]

For me, it's Bruce Willis.

[Anonymous No.18008878]

>>18005453
Bailouts are for members of the tribe only, goyim.

[Anonymous No.18009857]

It's even simpler than anything you guys have written down...

...printing out money for banks = more profit...

all the stuff you're askign for, univesral healthcare, free education, higher-paying jobs.... that leads to net losses.

Money is all everyone cares about... sadly. Just like how the crypto crash took down so many coins that pretended to be altruistic.

If there's no money to be made, they won't care. Basically.

[Anonymous No.18010529]

>>18005453
>green new deal
you lost me here, get out with that racial equity bullshit

[Anonymous No.18010749]

>>18006163
>subreddit
NO

[Sage No.18010788]

>>18005453
go back to leftpol miserable faggot

[Anonymous No.18010993]

>>18008878
I am slowly coming to the realization that "old white men" is a woke dog whistle to refer to jews.

[Anonymous No.18011018]

>>18010993
LMAO

[Anonymous No.18011546]

>>18005453
You mean corporate welfare for academic businesses? Fuck that.

Also, there are always strings attached such as the government deciding your care instead of enabling you to work with the doctors directly. As for minimum wage, earning are suppose to be determined by both supply-and-demand pricing and (if we are dealing with the private sector) collective bargaining. Ironically, the laws labor unions championed weakened the bargaining power of the unions and made people wonder if it is worthwhile paying into one for things the government already mandates businesses provide to the point of overreach.

[Anonymous No.18011627]

A government run school that prepares me for a government job, with rationed medical care, rationed housing, all allocated based on loyalty to the state. Sounds amazing, anon. Take your pills schizo.

[Anonymous No.18011827]

>>18005453
>Does the US hate normal people and love porkies that much?
Because the people who elect our shitty politicians do as well. See:

>>18005666
>>18005756
>>18006125
>>18006238
>>18006374
>>18010529
>>18010788
>>18011627

[Anonymous No.18011860]

>>18011827
wtf did I do? I'm not even american and I voted for the left party in my country this year.

[Anonymous No.18012084]

>>18010993
More like a game of Go.

[Anonymous No.18012572]

>>18008345
funny how communists never want to move to communist countries

[Anonymous No.18012604]

The stimulus plan is absolute proof that institutional racism is alive and well. Undocumented immigrants and various POC will receive virtually no benefit from the package. Many undocumented immigrants would gladly file an income tax return. However, they don’t, out of fear of being deported. Other POC are below the $2,500 income threshold. It’s sick that those who need it the most are coming out empty handed.

[Anonymous No.18012794]

Reminder not to respond to obvious bait

[Anonymous No.18013168]

>>18005453
Literally everything in your post would make our country poorer and worse off (including the bail outs).

[Anonymous No.18013368]

>>18012604
Based

[Anonymous No.18013422]

>>18005453
the government is not the federal reserve you mongoloid
Also, there's no way in fuck you're going to pay for all that shit with only 500 billion dollars; further reinforcing the theory that you are a /leftypol/ brainlet with no grasp on reality

[Anonymous No.18013455]

>>18005666
No. We would have no inequality jackass.

Money printing wouldnt increase production

[Anonymous No.18013492]

>>18005666
When you think about it, the poor man has today was only the super rich had 100 years ago. Blows my mind how people fail to realize this.

[Anonymous No.18013573]

>>18005706

It's the same logic. At what point does your made-up fiat need scarcity?

[Anonymous No.18014995]

>>18012572
I live in communist Denmark.
And our communism is working.
I love it.

[Anonymous No.18015585]

>>18005453
if every tom dick and harry had lots of Warbug Bucks they wouldnt be worth as much

[Anonymous No.18015618]

>>18014995
do you have private property?
Its not communist/socialism/capitalism based on tax rate/level of social programs.. people need to dust off a textbook once in a while

[Anonymous No.18017409]

>>18005453

[Anonymous No.18017471]

>>18006690
I thought it was funny.

[Anonymous No.18017551]

>>18013492
The poor today own supermansions on long island with a dozen servants living on the estate?

[Anonymous No.18017586]

>>18005453
Giving away paper doesn't actually provide efficient goods and services; valueless cash does not produce a better quality of life

[Anonymous No.18017592]

>>18005453
Neo feudalism. Government is just rich people. They do NOT have our best interest at heart.
Anyone that says otherwise is an idiot. We need to take money out of politics. This should be considered fraud and be a life sentence in prison.

[Anonymous No.18017677]

>>18005948
Fuck no, I'm not paying taxes so tyrone can buy jordans, stacie can fuck tyrone and the pothead julius can jerk off all day for 4 years while working on their baroque history degrees

[Anonymous No.18018014]

The Tachyon team is vested with the responsibility of building a more secure network and they achieve this by revamping the bottom layer protocol.

[Anonymous No.18018169]

>>18005453
And this is why fiat currency has doomed us all

[Anonymous No.18018185]

>>18017592
>We need to take money out of politics
>Preserving Modern Politics
No.
Restore Old Feudalism. Fuck the New Rich, restore Tradition.

[Anonymous No.18018213]

>>18005948
No, go unironically die in the gutter

[Anonymous No.18018305]

>>18008315
Can confirm.

[Anonymous No.18018339]

>>18005453
>why why why the gubernmwnt this and that
Because you are a filthy goyim

[Anonymous No.18018731]

>>18005453
the assets the banks have is "fake", so the govt can just print more fake money to cover shit like inverse subprime leveraged fuck my ass mortgage derivatives to keep the ponzi running
that isn't the case for the things you desire

[Anonymous No.18018750]

>>18005948
Only in small white communities. Can't have that with kikes and shitskins

[Anonymous No.18018763]

>>18010993
Dumb women still believe it though.

[Anonymous No.18018800]

>>18005948
>implying anyone who enters college deserves 20k a year
>let alone free college, healthcare, and housing on top of that
are you legitimately fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.18018873]

>>18006110
Rhodesia was a great fucking country you cunt.

[Anonymous No.18018994]

I always cringe when poorfags cry about not getting money given to them the rich proved their worth by making the right decisions to make a lot of money in the first place. The poor? They could either become slaves or make the right decisions and not be poor.
Honestly anyone making less than 100k should be set to indentured servitude like the good old days

[Anonymous No.18019130]

>heres your guaranteed $99 hr socialist fag
>Oops hyperinflation means bag of rice costs $900
It never ends

[Anonymous No.18019182]

>>18005666
They're already printing money retard. If instead of printing 1.5 trillion dollars and giving it to the banks we instead used it to forgive student debt we would have the same amount of inflation.