It really is a fucking flu

[Anonymous No.17979782]

The Diamond Princess cruise is like a natural data lab. Closed off environment to see exactly how many of the infected would die. Literally best evidence of mortality so far.

>697 tested positive
>Out of this 8 died
>All 8 deaths were over 70 years of age
>Average age on board was 58
>33% of passengers were over 70

>14 people remain in critical condition
>Another 30 were once in critical condition, but have now improved

Basically, in a ship where 33% of the passengers were above 70, eight people died. All deaths were over 70. Most of the infected didn't even have symptoms.

We are literally gassing our economy for this flu. The optimal strategy would be to do mandatory testing, and quarantine the infected. Instead we are implementing a far more harmful, comprehensive shut down which is going to affect millions for years to come.

[Anonymous No.17979791]

Only if healthcare is not surged beyond capacity.

[Anonymous No.17979793]

>>17979782
Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.17979808]

>>17979782

it's more contagious but it's far from the end of the world
it's gotten ridiculous now

[Anonymous No.17979809]

>>17979782
this the truth nigga, thats why there's got to be more to this

[Anonymous No.17979814]

>>17979791
Italy is still at capacity. They have been pushed to the brink, and have expanded. But they're not being overrun. I'm not saying it isn't bad. But the more optimal strategy would be to do mandatory testing and then quarantine the positive cases instead of doing a massive shut down.

[Anonymous No.17979827]

>>17979782
Triage.

[Anonymous No.17979839]

>>17979782
>bro only 8 died and 44 almost died, it's no big deal!

[Anonymous No.17979845]

>>17979809
It really is as simple as avoiding the political fallout from people's grandmas dying in hospital lobbies

30 people had to go to the ICU.... do the math on a fucking city. it does feel like a coup is happening but it's pretty easy to understand that normies will be upset

[Anonymous No.17979851]

>>17979782
>The optimal strategy would be to do mandatory testing, and quarantine the infected
You mean the testing that we're still struggling to ramp up on? By the time we have enough for everyone, half the population will be infected.

[Anonymous No.17979854]

BASED

[Anonymous No.17979862]

>>17979839
>t. hapooning faggot

[Anonymous No.17979863]

Stfu this is real shtf. Denying wont do any good

[Anonymous No.17979865]

>>17979839
Inoculate that ship with this season's flu and you're looking at similar numbers. Fat boomers can't take shit

[Anonymous No.17979866]

>>17979839
1.1% died, 6.3% almost died :(
I'll take those odds

[Anonymous No.17979883]

>IT'S HAPPENING, 59 cases in critical condition. SHUT IT DOWN!

[Anonymous No.17979885]

>>17979782
yeah bro, sars and he flu, pretty much the same thing

[Anonymous No.17979887]

>>17979782
Maybe gassing the economy but I’ve almost made a million dollars since February 21

[Anonymous No.17979901]

>>17979814
Its like you retards are autistic but not in a smart rainman sorta way.

I know you think you are smart but consider this:

The economy was dead regardless, normies, when they come across their loved ones and coworkers randomly dying, tend to panic.

Panicking normies stop going to work and start breaking things.

Telling the normies "only some of you will die, lul" is, contrary to popular wisdom, not that effective.

So the options were:

1. Send normies home, keep normie deaths to a minimum and avoiding the normies breaking things

or

2. Business as usual, normies notice 1-2 out of every 10 people are dying and start breaking everything.

The economy was fucked either way, oil is Russia and the Saudi's penis measuring contest, and dying normies don't go out and buy random shit.

Get it in your head that normies don't go "based and flupilled" or whatever the fuck when other normies collapse like you mongoloid.

[cunt No.17979903]

>>17979782

>NOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO GO TO WORK!!!!! I PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN TO TESLA!!! ELON IS A GOD!!!!! YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND GET BACK TO WORK SO YOU CAN PAY YOUR RENT!!!!!! YOUR RENT IS MY INCOME!!!!!!! NO TRUMPBUX FOR YOU THATS COMMUNISM!!!! TRUMP IS A FUCKING COMMIE!!!!!!!

If there is a mortality rate of 1% doesn't that mean 4 million Americans would die?

[Anonymous No.17979910]

>>17979782
lol dude SARS was like 2003, and that was about when people thought Chinese don't travel. There was no screening back then, there was no testing, pretty much the only people that got it went to the hospital, especially when most medical data was still on paper.

Social Media is a mistake, more access to Network News is a mistake, Cloud Data Storage arrived too late.

[Anonymous No.17979916]

how certain are you that there are no longterm effects?
even young people seem to suffer from short breath even after they "recovered"

[Anonymous No.17979924]

>>17979903
Read the fucking stats. 33% of the ship was above 70 years of age. Average age was 58. In this old ass demographic, 8 people died. Actual mortality would be much, much lower when you include infected of all ages.

[Anonymous No.17979933]

>>17979903
No, like 8 to 12 at the least, because, you see, while the ER's are full of "just a flu bro", otherwise salvageable people are dying.

Furthermore, the virus might mutate (it has already) and reinfect people (it has also done that). It might be a yearly thing where a few million get culled.

[Anonymous No.17979948]

>>17979901
You smooth brained dullard. The point is to implement a strategy that works to effectively contain this AND lessen the economic impact. Your average normie doesn't give a shit whether the economy was already dying. By the end of this month, these fuckers are going to shrug and go back to work anyway because they have bills to pay.

[cunt No.17979950]

>>17979924
>Read the fucking stats. 33% of the ship was above 70 years of age. Average age was 58. In this old ass demographic, 8 people died. Actual mortality would be much, much lower when you include infected of all ages.
Thanks but that info is fucking useless, how about some real data

[Anonymous No.17979957]

>>17979887
Post proof or bug off

[Anonymous No.17979958]

>>17979950
Fucking brainlet, that is real data.

[Anonymous No.17979962]

>>17979901
1/10 = 10%

the mort rate is nowhere near that.

if you include undiagnosed cases, the mort rate should be lower than 4%.

when this passes the MSM is going to be backpedaling hard. ZH has completely lost credibility to me eg.

[cunt No.17979963]

>>17979958
>Fucking brainlet

[Anonymous No.17979968]

>>17979782
why did you need a picture of a female for your thread op? You didnt and you're a bitch made faggot for doing that. You knew your thread wasnt that good so to lure in virginal simps you posted that girl otherwise it'd have 7 replies right now. What a sad sad pathetic boy you are doing that.

[Anonymous No.17979969]

>>17979910
The "cloud" is just someone else's computer.
Optical media is still the king of data storage in terms of longevity despite what the video game, music, and digital distribution industries want you to think.
What is a conspiracy is that the owners of DVD and Blu-Ray are not pushing their discs at all, in fact they are advocating against them.

[Anonymous No.17979989]

The infection rate is what makes it dangerous and more deadly. Sure, most will recover just fine. But all of the Medicaid patients that already go to the ER for a stubbed toe are going to show up and put people in the back of the line who actually need help. We all know it’s basically a flu, you have literally made a revelation that was exposed two months ago. It’s all about hospitalization rate. That’s what makes it dangerous.

[Anonymous No.17980001]

>>17979782
>>17979814
>The optimal strategy would be to do mandatory testing, and quarantine the infected.
and how would you enforce a quarantine in a (((free country))) when over 80 million people (just a number I pulled out of my ass) get infected?

[Anonymous No.17980002]

>>17979962
A 4% mortality rate would decimate our way of life for years to come. Let’s hope not. We would see tent cities full of dead people outside of hospitals at that mortality rate.

[Anonymous No.17980003]

>>17979924
How many were actually infected tho?

[Anonymous No.17980010]

>>17979782
She looks like she fucks black guys. Oh wait she does!

[Anonymous No.17980013]

>>17979791
This. It's a flu that spreads faster than what our infrastructure is normally used to each year. We're quarantined to soften the blow, like a speed bump, not because it's the black plague.

[Anonymous No.17980021]

>>17979962
Bro, you do realize that people don't die in fractions, right?

And furthermore, that if everyone is sick and all the hospitals are full of this, people are dying of this + other stuff, right?

Have you seen, perchance, Italy?

>>17979948

The average normie doesn't give a shit about the economy but he does mind randomly dying. Did you miss the part about normies seeing other normies die breaking things? I liked that part.

[Anonymous No.17980027]

>>17980003
Is it brainlet hour? Read the op, 697.

[Satojsh !!VLawKgnzbzG No.17980031]

>>17979887
Pls elaborate

[Anonymous No.17980032]

>>17979782
It is just a flu. But they are hyping it to cover up the inevitable debt bubble collapse and pretend it was due to the virus. And normies are sucking it up like the good little sheepies that they are, just look at the brainlets and sojak posters itt.

[Anonymous No.17980038]

>>17980001
You don't need to enforce it, if people realize how serious this is, they would self quarantine. Those who don't do so would simply get sick and maybe die out. Survival of the fittest. The dumb asses get picked out.

[Anonymous No.17980043]

>>17979865
do you know what inoculate means
dumbass

[Anonymous No.17980045]

>>17980002
except the double nigger in my reply implied 10%-20%. where in the fuck are people pulling these numbers from. it just increases the panic.

4% which will mostly be old people. people die all the time. a fucking earthquake impacts your life for years to come. lots of things impact your life for years. like the donuts people stuff down their pieholes every day.

if you get sick, stay home. the end.

like i said, include undiagnosed uninfected and it's lower than 4% for sure.

[Anonymous No.17980046]

>>17979782
>our economy
what economy? The economy where we produce nothing but war, import everything and export debt? let it burn, lives are worth protecting.

[Anonymous No.17980051]

>>17980027
Did you not understand my question dumbass? Read it again. I didn't ask how many tested positive.

[Anonymous No.17980057]

>>17980021
bro you said "1-2 out of every 10 people are dying and start breaking everything."

get the fuck out of here. old people are dying at that rate. it's not the total mortality rate.

[Anonymous No.17980065]

>>17980038
you can't rely on "people realizing how serious this is", what kind of plan is this? It only takes one retard to ruin everything. And no, people that break quarantine won't just die -- they'll have mild flu symptoms and go on to infect other people

[Anonymous No.17980077]

>>17980038
If people are quarantining... well, isn't that where we are at at the current time?

You just argued against yourself, if people quarantine, the economy collapses.

Grats.

>>17980045

The rate of people that need hospitalization is 20%. A lot of those die without it. With hospitalization and peak treatment, about 4% die.

There's your numbers.

Yes, an earthquake impacts your life, and is done. This shit infects people exponentially, ending with dead people everywhere at some point (see Italy).

People stop working when there's dead people everywhere.

[Anonymous No.17980096]

>>17980057
The hospitalization rate is 20%. Guess what happens to those 20% if they aren't hospitalized/hooked to breathers?

The 4% is *with perfect care*.

[Anonymous No.17980100]

>>17980043
>transitive verb - To communicate a disease to (a living organism) by transferring its causative agent into the organism.
If you inoculated that ship with this season's influenza instead of coronavirus, you would see similar numbers.
Also fuck off, illiterate dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.17980102]

>>17979782
From the data it is a lot more deadly than the flu tho. flu is 0.1% death, this is anywhere from 1.2%-3.5%

[Anonymous No.17980119]

>> verb
treat (a person or animal) with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease.
"he inoculated his tenants against smallpox"

It means to vaccinate you stupid street shitting bsv subhuman loser. You fucking dumbass

[Anonymous No.17980121]

>>17980077
>20%. A lot of those die without it.
"a lot" of 20% is not a number. 15% aged 70 and up is a fucking number.

-----its lower than 4% total including undiagnosed cases.-----

the seasonal flu affects you every year too. next year we can all talk about covid 21. and after a few years nobody will fucking care any more.

[Anonymous No.17980132]

>>17980100
You are legitimately a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.17980139]

>>17980096
Hospitalization doesn't mean shit you cock slurping nigger. It includes women with the sniffles going to the ER. Look at the DATA from SOUTH KOREA, which has had the most EXPANSIVE testing. You dumb fucking nigger brained gorilla.

99% are MILD. Literally 59 critical cases in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. Stupid fucking shit for brains niggers goddamn. look at it faggot - >>17979883
>>17979883
>>17979883
>>17979883
>>17979883
>>17979883

[Anonymous No.17980143]

>>17980132
Says the person who can't understand that a word can have multiple definitions

[Anonymous No.17980152]

Pasta bro here, in Italy 99% of the people dying are old men with already pre-existing conditions.
Meanwhile the FED, as you know, is printing money and the EU allowed the states to literally "pump the money in the economy system" (read what von der Leyen said).
CoronaChan is an inside job, Buy BTC.

[Anonymous No.17980154]

>>17980143
You can’t even understand the context of the definitions. Literally means to vaccinate. The definition you even gave is in the context of vaccination, introducing the virus so antibodies can be produced. You stupid fucking piece of shit. If you inoculated the ship with Influenza they would be vaccinated dumbass.
It’s ok I know english isn’t your native language bsv street shitter

[Anonymous No.17980157]

>>17980139
You need help bro, I think your brain got bogged.

[Anonymous No.17980182]

>>17979782
you know what else was literally a flu?
spanish flu

[Anonymous No.17980199]

>>17980154
You rarely see someone go so far out of their way to misunderstand what was meant using standard english. However, I'll accommodate your autism and tell you to replace 'inoculate' with 'infect.'

[Anonymous No.17980204]

1) "With the flu, a vaccine is manufactured each year to keep up with the constantly mutating genes of the flu strains. Those who catch the flu have some immunity against catching the same strain again — something that is not yet possible with the coronavirus."

2) Recovered Covid19 patients have damaged lungs forever. Don't know about you but having lungs of someones whose smoked for 10 years after you recover from Corona doesn't sound nice.

[Anonymous No.17980209]

>>17980199
you absolute abhorrent subhuman bsv street shitter
you all should be banned

[Anonymous No.17980222]

>>17979791
I can promise you it will be. Already hearing from nurses and doctors that they're at capacity, people are being rotated into triage like crazy, then they need peoplease to replace those people but the skill level isn't there nor is the knowledge level. It's going to look like Italy in another week maybe week and a half max

[Anonymous No.17980223]

>>17980209
That must mean, "I have no argument" in Illiterate Sperg English.

[Anonymous No.17980227]

>>17980121
lol

[Anonymous No.17980228]

>>17979782
>Out of this 8 died
>14 people remain in critical condition
>Another 30 were once in critical condition, but have now improved
so 22% of people requires immediate medical attention. good thing those 54 people had access to modern medicine.

I wonder if 22% of Americans could get the same level of care if they were all sick at the same time.

[Anonymous No.17980229]

>>17979814
Rumor is they stopped reporting numbers and are over capacity. And I heard talk of funeral pyrs be a use not enough room for all the coffins

[Anonymous No.17980240]

>>17979814
Italy is hauling people in military trucks to the creamery. Are you fucking out of touch?

[Anonymous No.17980260]

>>17980228
>22%
>52 of 697

what country are you from?

[Anonymous No.17980261]

>>17979782
only rich people can go on such cruses, and rich people are generally healthier...

[Anonymous No.17980267]

>>17979968

>op posts female
>call him fag

Okay homo maybe next time some juicy pee pee would catch your eye better?

[Anonymous No.17980268]

>>17980240
why are they making cream from people? did they run out of cows?

[Anonymous No.17980275]

>>17980261
>only rich people can go on such cruses,
lol they're literally cheaper than staying at home for most murricans

[Anonymous No.17980278]

>>17980046
dont worry anon, we're going to make it

[Anonymous No.17980279]

>>17980223
you already ceded defeat and proved you are a retard. I did not have to inoculate another argument to the discussion.
Plebbitor

[Anonymous No.17980281]

>>17980240
>refuses to look at the actual data, instead talks about trucks and crematoriums.

worthless.

[Anonymous No.17980287]

>>17980268
Yes, they've had to turn to big-titted Italian brap hogs to sustain their gelato industry.

[Anonymous No.17980289]

>>17980260
he's from retards united. i saw that post too before he deleted it.

[Anonymous No.17980295]

>>17980261
you know how i know you're a poorfag?

[Anonymous No.17980299]

>>17980278
it's all so tiresome fren.

[Anonymous No.17980300]

>>17979782
yeah "out of 697 people only 8 people died"
8/6.97
is 1.14 per 100 deaths
ie) 1.14 percent

even that would mean:
3,270,000 deaths in usa

44 people in critical condition
44/6.4
6.875 people in critical condition for every 100

47,592,727 americans in critical condition for more than 4 weeks

924,107 hospital beds in all of america

47,592,727 critical + 3,270,000 dying
50,862,727 americans that need hospital beds and ventilators

50,862,727 need beds /924,107 staffed beds
55 patients that need beds each hospital bed in all of america

and that's if the whole world is as lucks as the diamond princess

im using the numbers youve given and ive shown the math. now do you see the gravity of the situation

if 50,862,727 is patients that need beds
and only one in 55 will get their treatment (this is if we stop treating all patients that dont have COVID-19 and need medical help (we aren't accounting for those negative externalities because i dont know how many hospital beds are currently used out of that 990 thousand)

50,862,727/55 = 924,776 people that can be treated

if out of 50,862,727; 3,270,000 will die
that gives us a critical/death ratio of 15.55:1 death

924,776 treatable people 1 in 15.55 dies (no way that number could be kept up when that overwhelmed)
59,471 of the TREATED die

924,776 - 59,471

865,305 of the 924,776 treated live

that means 50,862,727 - 865,305 that can be treated and pull through if all other medical beds are devoted to only COVID patients

49,998,422 usa deaths

[Anonymous No.17980306]

>>17980300
>mfw boomers get the coof

[Anonymous No.17980314]

>>17980300
K

[Anonymous No.17980315]

>>17980300
>even that would mean:
>3,270,000 deaths in usa

>49,998,422 usa deaths


????????
virus mutated?????
????????

[Anonymous No.17980340]

>>17980315
he's assuming 100% infection rate which is probably high

but he's also ignoring the very small number of ventilators we have vs. beds, making the number perhaps low.

[Anonymous No.17980347]

>>17980340
>he's assuming 100% infection rate
exposure rate, sorry

[Anonymous No.17980348]

>>17980279
That must be why you've sidetracked the argument twice.

[Anonymous No.17980353]

>>17980348
imagine being a bsv street shitting retard

[Anonymous No.17980356]

>>17979782
Step 1: Tax cuts, pump market:$$$$$$$
Step 2: Create panic, crash market with short position, leave 401k holders and retail investors with the bags
Step 3: Demand bailout, grab more tax money:$$$$$$$$$$

They've perfected the scheme

[Anonymous No.17980363]

>>17980300
jesus fucking christ you niggers are intolerable and plain fucking stupid.

1.14 PER 100 IS IN A POPULATION THAT HAS AN AVERAGE AGE OF 58. IN A NORMAL DISTRIBUTION, WHERE THE MEDIAN AGE IS AROUND 38, THE MORTALITY WOULD BE MUCH LOWER. CLOSER TO THE SEASONAL FLUS.

[Anonymous No.17980365]

>>17980340
except the us pop is 300 million give or take.

which implies a total mort rate of 15%.

which is completely unobserved. so yeah, the virus must have mutated in his calc.

[Anonymous No.17980375]

>>17979782
No it isnt retard. Those passengers were diagnosed before they were even symptomatic and received state of the art care in Japan immediately. That's a horrible sample group. Kys shill.

[Anonymous No.17980386]

>Mathematical models predict cases to flatline and bottom out by end of April if people remain at home

>Everyone stays home for 6 weeks because 0.8% of seniors would get breathing complications from the hong kong flu

Being paid to stay home, jerk off and buy cheap stocks? Sounds good to me.

[Anonymous No.17980390]

>>17980375
another hapooning faggot who wants to completely ignore south korea too - >>17979883

[Anonymous No.17980392]

>>17980365
>which is completely unobserved
sorta

Italy and Iran are supposedly seeing close to that, but it's probably and artifact of insufficient testing.

I think the WHO is currently expecting it to drop to about 1.5% total after extensive testing is completed, but the anon is correct that the death rate goes up severely when hospital beds are full and ventilators aren't available.

meaning we should expect the percentage to go up as the infection rate increases.

[Anonymous No.17980394]

>>17980356

[Anonymous No.17980395]

>>17979782

A million boomers dying would be an awesome happening.

Quarantine, recession, and 100K boomers dying is a terrible happening.

Pretty disappointed.

[Anonymous No.17980399]

>>17980395
most of the boomers you talk to are actually worried about their kids. Plenty of kids out there with asthma or other problems that might kill them.

[Anonymous No.17980403]

>>17980353
I guess that's a good way to avoid the discussion about covid. Imagine to your heart's content anon.

[Anonymous No.17980408]

>>17980392
>meaning we should expect the percentage to go up as the infection rate increases.

we can also expect the mort rate to go down as more people are diagnosed. bigger pie, smaller slice.

[Anonymous No.17980410]

>>17980399

This is an absolute win.

I will spit on the graves of boomers and pre-existing condition fags.

[Anonymous No.17980418]

My mom is 48, no health problems. Just tested today. Woke up hard to breath, can't full breath, dizzy, called ambulance, go hospital, take blood, swab nose, send you home to isolate

[Anonymous No.17980422]

>>17980408
>we can also expect the mort rate to go down as more people are diagnosed. bigger pie, smaller slice.
yep.

most models I'm seeing for the US put the death toll between 1 and 5 million. Either extreme is unacceptable to Americans, which is why the "it's just a flu" crowd is being ignored now.

[Anonymous No.17980429]

>>17980399
Imagine the nations of earth destroying their own economies to try and undermine mother nature and protect you

[Anonymous No.17980449]

>>17980032
this is true, but the feds shorting the stocks are getting exposed

[Anonymous No.17980456]

>>17979782
you seriously don't understand that this panic is being pushed by the elites through the mainstream media to cover up the financial collapse which has been brewing for decades and started happening around June last year?

[Anonymous No.17980460]

>>17980032
Do some research you fucking twat.

[Anonymous No.17980464]

>>17980460
not an argument

[Anonymous No.17980467]

>>17980429
they'd rather be alive than rich

poor fools

[Anonymous No.17980470]

>>17980422

i look at those numbers and go that's it?

when hannibal obliterated the romans at cannae he killed 1/5 able aged males in rome. in a single day. that's horrific.

the old and the weak perish. such is nature.

[Anonymous No.17980474]

>>17980470
yep, that's a thing too.

and who knows? this may come in several waves so you might get your Darwinian utopia anyways.

[Anonymous No.17980508]

>>17980474
it's not a dream. it's an observation. who mourns for the old lion with no teeth left?

i'm expecting it to come back every year. covid 21, 22, 23. and then people will shut the fuck up. stop smoking cigs and take better care of themselves to increase their chances of survival.

[Anonymous No.17980543]

>>17980508
I agree. We're still seeing Spanish Flu 102 years later and it's still killing people. Covid will just be another thing doubling the number. Probably going to be even worse things come out of China as time goes on.

in the long run this sort of action we're taking right now probably strengthens society though, we'll come out of it more cohesive. Even if it's an over-reaction or a futile effort, we're working together on something for once.

[Anonymous No.17980562]

>>17980300
>>17980315

I made it very clear that 3,270,000 deaths in usa is the expected death rate if everyone recieves the same quality treatment as DS

49,998,422 usa deaths is accounting for bed and supply shortages

if you dont believe me i dont have time to try to convince you.

World population if we are as lucky as diamond princess:
7,700,000,000 * .0114 = 87,780,000 deaths if same rate as diamond princess not accounting for hospital bed shortages because i don't want to aggregate the 40 countries that list their hospital beds ill use an easier method

7,700,000,000 * .06875
529,375,000 world critical (absolutely need beds)

per 1000 people
1 country with 13 beds
1 with 12 beds
2 with 8 beds
5 with 7 beds
4 with 6 beds
5 with 5 beds
4 with 4 beds
14 with 3 beds
3 with 2 beds
1 with 1 bed

13 + 12 + 8 × 2 + 7 × 5 + 6 × 4 + 5 × 5 + 4 × 4 + 14 × 3 + 3 × 2 + 1
= 190
/40

4.75 beds for 1000 people average global (using top 40 countries rounded to whole numbers; a happier than reality stat)

7,700,000,000/1000 = 7,700,000
7,700,000 / 4.75 = 1,621,053 hospital beds rounded up to next whole number

529,375,000 world critical + 87,780,000 world deaths

617,155,000 need beds
617,155,000/1,621,053
1 out of 381 people get beds

1,621,053 people treatable if no other conditions are being treated except covid

1 in 15.55 treated dies
104,248 of the treated die

1,516,805 of the treated live
617,155,000 - 1,516,805

615,638,195 global deaths not including negative externalities

[Anonymous No.17980581]

>>17979814
Countries don't have enough tests to test everyone. Not even close.
Imo there are two good strategies:
> 1: Ignore Corona completely, let almost everyone get infected and a couple million literal boomers die (who were going to die soon anyway)
> 2: Completely shut down everything world wide for 3 weeks (force everyone to stock up on food and stay at home)
Option 2 would eliminate the virus and the economy would almost be guaranteed to completely recover. But it obviously won't happen. And it's probably too late anyway.

[Anonymous No.17980580]

>>17980340
no i literally accounted for the lack of beds and ventilators. its the whole second half of the paragraph.

youre right thats assuming 100 percent infection

since there was about 50% infection rate reduce my numbers by half. except the hospital bed number

it would still be about 24 million usa deaths.

i very clearly accounted for the hospital beds

[Anonymous No.17980606]

>>17980562
Your just throwing numbers out of your ass. When your wrong and we don't even break 500,000 deaths world wide will you actually re-evaluate your autism or will your just move on to the next happening?

[Anonymous No.17980616]

>>17980580
>its the whole second half of the paragraph.
I think you estimated a 100% death rate for critical cases that aren't treated. This isn't supported by data.

I may be reading you wrong there, your explanations are a bit of a mess.

[Anonymous No.17980652]

>>17980399
Next time have healthier kids.

[Anonymous No.17980742]

>>17979814
There were nurses crying on camera because they weren't allowed to count the bodies anymore.

[Anonymous No.17980745]

>>17980580
>>17980616
the last numbers I saw on untreated critical cases were in the range of 10-15% death rates, so based off your calculations we'd expect something like 3,000,000 Americans dead if infection rates are around 50% and critical cases untreated result in 10% mortality.

this number is right up the middle on current models I've seen. Right in the expected range of 1-5 million US deaths. So I think your math is dead on, and this is the reason for the current reaction in the US.

[Anonymous No.17980910]

ATTENTION FAGGOTS LITERALLY JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO FOR UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE THAT COVID19 IS WORSE THAN ANY OTHER RECENT PANDEMIC

https://youtu.be/n4no04822NQ

https://youtu.be/n4no04822NQ

https://youtu.be/n4no04822NQ

[Anonymous No.17980920]

>>17979782
>We are literally gassing our economy for this flu.
Good point, I didn’t think of it like that, we really should be gassing more than just the economy, shouldn’t we?

[Anonymous No.17980923]

>>17979814
deluded

[Anonymous No.17980929]

>>17979782
>the most accurate testing environment is a bunch of enclosed, quarantined rich people who get mass media attention and perfect healthcare

Really gets the noggin joggin

[Anonymous No.17980950]

We are all gonna die anyway.Doesnt matter in the long run.Cold dark abyss awaits us

[Anonymous No.17980955]

>>17979782
Are you retarded? Are your parents blood relatives? Do you not see what is happening in Italy right now? They are literally telling people who show up at hospitals "go home so you can die in comfort" because they've run out of space for all the victims.

[Anonymous No.17980975]

I'm not trying to be edgy here but I think it's not that bad that all the over 65 year Olds are dying like flies from this.
I think this disease is some kind of a mechanism from nature to combat overpopulation. We are not supposed to live that long.

[Anonymous No.17980977]

>>17979782
>it’s 70 so he can just die
how about when you are 70?
my grandpa is 100+, that’s fucking 30 years difference

[Anonymous No.17980982]

virus hoax starter pack
https://youtu.be/zFN5LUaqxOA
https://youtu.be/3cnlynJZLtM
http://www.whale.to/a/lanka5.html
http://www.medicinacomplementar.com.br/biblioteca/pdfs/Biomolecular/mb-0464.pdf

[Anonymous No.17980983]

>>17980975
Retarded people should be tested for IQ and killed at 30 instead

[Anonymous No.17980986]

>>17980363
It's ok man I get you. 85% NPC population exist.
I'm not a robot

[Anonymous No.17980988]

>>17980363
how did Italy get an 8% death rate then?

[Anonymous No.17980989]

>>17980983
they should be put down before they're born.

[Anonymous No.17980992]

>>17979814
>Italy is still at capacity

[Anonymous No.17981002]

>>17980955
what you think Italy is like

[Anonymous No.17981010]

>>17979782
I can't wait to be dead. Lucky bastards.

[Anonymous No.17981018]

>>17980955
what Italy is actually like

Italy is literally Africa with white ppl. Corrupt government, lazy workforce, retarded amounts of socialism, no respect for their national monuments, garbage everywhere, devil may care attitude, serial law breakers and tax dodgers

[Anonymous No.17981021]

>>17979910
I actually kind of love this image because it shows that Normies literally can't think back to any time before the 1960s; The last great pandemic was only 100 years ago but it doesn't exist to Normies.

[Anonymous No.17981024]

>>17980010
it's usually the hyperfeminine looking ones that do.

the more dominant looking ones are more racist

[Anonymous No.17981035]

>>17981010
u wont die. 95% sure I had it as I had all the symptoms and was at a major conference where many were infected. one of my buddies got it.

it feels like smoking too many cigs, moderate fever around 99.7, little foggy, and at the end of it your muscles hurt a lot. that's it. just cant go see granma any time soon.

[Anonymous No.17981048]

>>17981018
why are they so racist? Even Greeks are so nice and non-racist lol

[Anonymous No.17981058]

>>17979782
You are so retarded I'm not even going to waste my time explaining shit to you.
Smooth brain go to school

[Anonymous No.17981069]

>>17979782
The real redpill is that the Diamond Princess doesn’t exist

[Anonymous No.17981104]

>>17980988
Because they only test very sick patients

[Anonymous No.17981124]

>>17981048
not sure

all I know is every time I visit the footpaths which Octavian and Claudius tread, pass the building they frequented, and see it all littered with garbage and spray-painted commie/anarchist symbols, it makes me sick.

You don't see the academe militaire or Whitehall covered in graffiti and phone number posters for cheap Romanian whores, even the smallest UK parish monument are pristine.

Italians just don't give a shit in general and are paying the price. Hopefully the moderate casualties they suffer here will make them realize how much work is needed to be done on far more deadly issues regarding health.

[Anonymous No.17981166]

>>17980139

[Anonymous No.17981177]

>>17979782
>"it's just a flu"
>14+30 people in CRITICAL condition
how delusional are you? when was the last time "just a flu" wiped out retirement homes and put young people with tubes shoved down their throats?

[Anonymous No.17981181]

>>17980139
I can't wait for you to catch COVID and come back crying about how it was not "just a flu" after all.

[Anonymous No.17981187]

>>17979910
Zika was a hoax.

[Anonymous No.17981191]

>>17980139
Holy kek op

[Anonymous No.17981199]

>>17981177
in australia last year. heaps of nursing homes went into lockdown. hundreds of old cunts died. a 30 year old bitch with no complications died in the town i live. and guess what it was? just a fucking flu

[Anonymous No.17981209]

>>17981177
>appeal to emotion like a female without addressing the numbers

you also lose for posting that ugly man chinned beaner whore.

[Anonymous No.17981240]

4chan / joe public keyboard warrior analysis of Corona virus pandemic situation "Bro, it's a conspiracy. Corona is just like a bad flu. Only grannies and grandpas die."

Medical research doctors who have studied for decades in this field: "LOCK EVERYTHING DOWN".

Gee, dunno who I would take advice from....

All these F*K#$ saying this is a conspiracy to short the market. No doubt there's people making serious money from this, but at the same time, you really think thousands of medical doctors around the world collude to tell their governments to shutdown? You think CHINA would collude to crash their society??

Everything that's happened up to this point has never happened before. There is no way a group of elites have planned this because there would be too many chain reactions needed to pull it off. Super weathly already have BILLIONS of $$$. There is no way in hell they would execute a plan that might risk taking down the entire system, including themselves.

[Anonymous No.17981250]

>>17979948
Can't go back to work if your business shuts down.
Can't keep business open if people are afraid or even banned from using it.

[Anonymous No.17981260]

>>17979782
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jfx7PnMtCeY

[Anonymous No.17981274]

The Spanish flu was harmless too, until it mutated into a new strand after every one was infected

[Anonymous No.17981306]

>>17980581
If the virus can re-infect like many reports say option 1 is suicide.
Option 2 is not possible to implement in shithole nations and also won't work if animals can spread it. It would start right back again as soon as restrictions are lifted.

[Anonymous No.17981362]

>>17979782
I cant believe that the rest of the thread hasn't explained to your dumb ass that people who go on a cruise ship are likely to be healthier than the general population

[Anonymous No.17981403]

>>17981187
pathogenic viruses are all hoaxes, including this one
virus hoax starter pack
https://youtu.be/zFN5LUaqxOA
https://youtu.be/3cnlynJZLtM
http://www.whale.to/a/lanka5.html
http://www.medicinacomplementar.com.br/biblioteca/pdfs/Biomolecular/mb-0464.pdf

[Anonymous No.17981434]

>>17979782
I want to think this, but I have a friend who caught it and hes in the ICU right now.

He already has preexisting health issues and I can only hope that he pulls through.

[Anonymous No.17981818]

>>17979782
No retard, your numbers aren’t right
From the diamond princess, no one is fully counting the data. Deaths from the diamond princess are counted in other countries data. So it’s not the correct numbers

[Anonymous No.17981995]

>>17981818
Stupid nigger, all diamond princess deaths are counted as such even if they happen in another country. A canadian who died yesterday, aged 70+, was the eighth fatality. They’re literally updating both infections and fatalities for the ship.

[Anonymous No.17982057]

The passengers of the Diamond Princess were cordoned off into their rooms which stopped not only further spread of the disease, but also further accumulation of viral load that would have made the cases more severe. It isn't a natural experiment. In the wild, not every single person is put under forced quarantine for 14 days with food delivered to their door at daily intervals. A better data set to use would be South Korea, as they have done massive amounts of tests and found that their fatality rate was around 1%. At that time, the Diamond Princess passengers were docked in Japan which had a very little number of cases at that time. As there was no strain on the Japanese healthcare system, infected were all able to receive proper medical treatment. This isn't going to be the case in the US, the result being... higher death rates.

I would like to point out that... given a random population was selected on this ship, it is theoretically possible that the mean age of infected patients on the Diamond Princess was 35 or some other lower number that would skew the death rates down. Guessing based on likely ages isn't going to cut it. Unless you know for a fact the average age of the patients, then all you have is speculation. Also worth pointing out that not all cases have resolved, 25% of patients are yet to recover. It is theoretically possible that they all die. So we don't know what the conclusion is just yet.

Not only that, but there are different strains of the virus, some being more lethal than others. It seems that the strain on the Diamond Princess could be a less lethal strain, the S strain. Other countries like Italy have a more lethal strain. As corona is an RNA virus, it has a high rate of mutation. It has already evolved a more lethal variant than the original that is common. It is possible that this process happens again. I think that this is a big worry of the people in charge are concerned about and staying hush hush about.

[Anonymous No.17982093]

.It isn't a natural experiment. In the wild, not every single person is put under forced quarantine for 14 days with food delivered to their door at daily intervals. The passengers of the Diamond Princess were cordoned off into their rooms which stopped not only further spread of the disease, but also further accumulation of viral load that would have made the cases more severe. At that time, the Diamond Princess passengers were docked in Japan which had a very little number of cases. As there was no strain on the Japanese healthcare system, infected were all able to receive proper medical treatment. This isn't going to be the case in the US, the result being... higher death rates. A better data set to use would be South Korea, as they have done massive amounts of tests and found that their fatality rate was around one percent. Keep in mind South Korea did everything right.

Given a random population was infected on this ship, it is theoretically possible that the mean age of infected was 35 or some other low number that would skew the death rates down. Guessing the ages of infected based on likelihood isn't going to cut it. Unless you know the average age of infected patients for a fact, all you have is speculation. Also worth pointing out that not all cases have resolved, 25% of patients are yet to recover. It is theoretically possible that they all die. So we don't know what the conclusion is just yet.

Not only that, but there are different strains of the virus, some being more lethal than others. It seems that the strain on the Diamond Princess could be a less lethal strain, the S strain. Other countries like Italy have a more lethal strain. As corona is an RNA virus, it has a high rate of mutation. It has already evolved a more lethal variant than the original that is common. It is possible that this process happens again. I think that this is a big worry of the people in charge are concerned about and staying hush hush about.

[Anonymous No.17982137]

>>17979782
like the chinks said, it's a US bioweapon
intended to crash the economy so that they have an excuse to blame it on.
spread from the center of China b/c all the wiggers hate China, and it'll rally trump's base

also explains why the globohomo west did nothing for 3 months while the gooks were shutting down borders and flights--they wanted it to get out of hand so they have something to blame it on.

[Anonymous No.17982140]

>>17981104
which patients do they test in the USA?

[Anonymous No.17982172]

any link to any of that ships data?

[Anonymous No.17982287]

>>17980139
um, hello? based department? you're gonna want to see this one

[Anonymous No.17982701]

>>17979782
Correct. Iceland is great at testing and they said corona is not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.17982719]

>>17979782
>muh stocks

Seethe more, leeches

[Anonymous No.17982735]

so from now on whenever a new virus pops up, no matter how low-risk it is, we'll go into complete shutdown cause
>the mortality is 10% amongst very old people with existing conditions!

[Anonymous No.17982748]

The strain on board the Diamond Princess was the old strain.

It's now mutated to the 15% mortality rate detailed by the insider Anon.

[Anonymous No.17982768]

[Anonymous No.17982774]

>>17979782
>bullies the world
>runs out of agricultural economies to bully
>bullies china
>gets the fucked knocked out
>now cries m-m-muh china did it

Fucking white kike bitches.

[Anonymous No.17982807]

>>17979782
That cruise ship was cranking 5g, just like Wuhan was one of the first 5g test cities in November. 5g is gonna kill the bees

[Anonymous No.17982835]

>>17980204
>1) "With the flu, a vaccine is manufactured each year
Do you get vaccinated each year?

[Anonymous No.17982853]

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