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>>17978669
we here

>> No.17978698

Coronachan breaking my balls 10 posts too early!

Coronachan is my ultimate findom!

>> No.17978699
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>>17978688
cool story, but wait another 12 months or so

>> No.17978710

>buy SPY puts when it's at $300
>bulltards say I'm going to lose my money
I'm still laughing

>> No.17978714
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>>17978688
Not so fast bullfag, were crashing it all to 0

>> No.17978730

should I buy stocks now that it's low

>> No.17978737
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feels like the world is ending around me with financial markets collapsing globally and death tolls climbing. making a couple thousand a week doesn't really seem worthwhile proportionally. you guys are making tens of thousands a week, right? how else would you be able to cope otherwise?

>> No.17978743

>>17978688

Don't know how anyone can be optimistic enough to buy in when it hasn't even started yet. Is this what they call delusion?

>> No.17978744

>>17978699
Why 12 months?
We’re going much faster than all the other crashes.

>> No.17978747

This is the best week ever. Works out for at least another week (Assuming we don't get a mandatory state shut down) and the stock markets are currently providing a once in a lifetime YOLO tier opportunity.

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>>17978699
>that long bull trap on 29/30
Christ, absolutely vicious.

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>>17978685
Me on the bottom

>> No.17978754

>>17978699
This doesn't even take into account how grotesquely inflated the S&P is. We're going to pullback. It might be green next week, but then it's another nosedive.

>> No.17978763

REDPILL ME ON SOME REAL CRYPTO NOT BTC NOT ETHE IM ACTIVE DUTY AND CANT AFFORD IT

>> No.17978765
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no job
no money
no gf
no family
no hope

>> No.17978769
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>>17978737
I made 20 bux today and I'm feeling fine.

Thing is, most humans are worth less than 20 bux these days, we have too many of these fucking shits and most of them are in ch*na, in*ia and a****a.

>> No.17978770
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I turned 15k into 268k in the last month

Everybody keeps yelling about how premiums are too high and yada yada and oh no IV crush and all this other bullshit. Just shut the fuck up, grab your wife's boyfriend's wallet, and put some fucking money down on puts.

I have done nothing besides buy SPY puts on pumps or green days for the past month and my account has exploded upwards, I suggest you do the same, COVID-19 is only going to get worse before it gets better.

PLUS, Congress isn't even in session until the 23rd, so no stimulus this coming week.

TL;DR: SPY puts 10/15% OTM at least a month out to be safe from a bounce.

>> No.17978775

>>17978754
Do you have any studies that show valuation is a good metric for determining the endpoint of a bear market?

>> No.17978789
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>>17978699

That's not even the most recent one

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>>17978770

>> No.17978798

>>17978770
See you at the homeless shelter in a few months.

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>>17978789

>> No.17978810

I'm hoping for intelsat to dip on Monday. Then I'm buying in and holding long term.

>> No.17978814

>>17978775
I don't even think how you could apply studies to this. There's so much shit that has never happened before happening. In every other crash people could still leave their homes without risking of dying.

>> No.17978818

>>17978743
>it hasn't even started yet
Why are people still saying this? Dow is down 33%, 276k+ confirmed cases, & 11k+ deaths. I agree we still have a way to go, but to say it hasnt even started is literally brainlet-tier

>> No.17978823

>>17978763
You can buy 0.0001 of a bitcoin.
Not sure if newfags like you showing up is bullish or bearish anymore. Clown market.

>> No.17978824
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This will all be over by summer and you will regret not buying the cheapies.

>> No.17978827

what happened to the discord?

>> No.17978830

>>17978789
>>17978699
Okay what in the fuck is wrong with either of these two graphs? The 1929 plots are in no way similar even though the axes are essentially the same

>> No.17978842

>>17978770
can I buy any spy puts for $25?

>> No.17978849

>>17978830
Looks like the starting point for 1929 was just shifted over some to better align with 2020

>> No.17978850

>>17978770
>>17978797
What the hell is a put? I don't see that option on Robinhood and im a literal retard

>> No.17978852

>>17978810
Why would you think intelsat would improve?

>> No.17978855

>>17978656
You can have Bush, but he comes with war.

>> No.17978874

>>17978789
oy vey

>> No.17978884
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where my GUSH chads at?
Im planning to buy a shit ton with my father once we go lower

>> No.17978890
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Something tells me we are going to be read on Monday

>> No.17978907

>>17978842
Yeah

>> No.17978909

>>17978890
red fuck

>> No.17978913

>>17978890
We might open red, but they're going to pump it with that stimulus. Another trillion. The entire week might have some green until towards the end.

>> No.17978925

>>17978890
I'm thinking crab

>> No.17978939

>>17978770
I don't want to make 125k I just want to make enough to not wagecuck 40k all I have is 7k saved whaddaya recommend?

>> No.17978957

Anyone know why Hotels and Casino's went up today? This bowl formation makes no sense, they should be dead within two months.

>> No.17978959

>>17978913
Why is the idea of that so painful and tiresome?

>> No.17978968

What do you guys think of using HDGE (actively managed short fund) as a long term hold for the next 18 months of rolling quarantines, $10 oil, and mass graves? I know you shouldn't hold -3x ETFs, is this better?

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>>17978890
>>17978913
>>17978925
semi ta fag here
i think the stimulants will give buyers some incentive to push the price up. im eyeing at least $21,000, but the worst is yet to come

>> No.17978973

>>17978957
My thoughts: Insider info
Trump has mafia (casino) connections

>> No.17978977
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>>17978890
Everyone expects it to be red on Monday because it's been massively red the past few Mondays, so it'll probably be green instead. And since a lot of people will come to the same conclusion and assume we'll see an unexpected green Monday, it'll actually be massively red

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>>17978909
reen

>> No.17978990
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What poor souls were asking you bizzies what to buy two days before the crash? They probably put all $1000 they had into dividends and now look what happened. They’re 400+ in the hole and probably never coming back

But for real, what do you all recommend now lol

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>>17978969
SMELLIOT WAVES

>> No.17978995

>>17978884
I bought 2k gush not knowing about the upcoming split. It being memed here did not help. I'm set to lose 1500$ come monday. Such is life.

>> No.17978997

>>17978730
Put 20% of all your take home pay into an Index Fund and don't look at it actively and you will make it.

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>>17978769
you just made me laugh out loud you fucker

>> No.17979002

>>17978973
There isn’t a mafia, they all disbanded and rebranded as Unions

>> No.17979011

>>17978770
The IRS would like to talk to you

>> No.17979014
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SHELTER IN PLACE:
What’re you doing with your time? I just discovered the Tubi.tv library is built in to my TV at my shelter, and it’s got a bunch of anime I’ve never watched.

Going to try this accel world series, any good? It’s also got some other stuff that interests me: Jin roh, redline, GTO, some other old stuff and fun looking isekai...

>>17978814
For the most part yes but you definitely weren’t conscious for 9/11. There are a lot of similarities, even if the fears seem ridiculous in hindsight, and frankly somewhat unreasonable at the time.

But what does that have to do with valuation?

>>17978824
Which ones are the cheapies?
I’m accumulating PEP and KO right here, but I actually dropped a couple JNJ and MSFTs on a bounce, to DCA down lower. Even dropped a couple shares of MRK ;_;

>>17978969
Stimulants??

>>17978957
Bail outs, short covering, or big money scooping up the cheapies because long time horizon.

>> No.17979017

>>17979002
I wish me union was that aggressive. They're pussies working as much for HR as they do for the employees they're supposed to represent.

>> No.17979022

>>17978990

>But for real, what do you all recommend now lol

Probably groceries and a bidet.

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>>17978993
Yes.

>> No.17979029

>>17978997
Which one ?

>> No.17979033

>>17979014
he meant stimulus package lol

>> No.17979036
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>https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1241172033179811841?s=20

Here's the scene right now at Alki Beach in Seattle, despite the governor pleading that people stay home:
• Beach volleyball games
• Crowds around bonfires
• Groups of roller-bladers
• A line of customers for fish-and-chips

(I got out of my car only to take picture)

>> No.17979044
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So a Put is basically just placing a bet that the stonk will fall in price? And if it does fall you make money, if it rises then you only lose the deposit?

>> No.17979051

>>17978968
Holdings look like shit, just do it yourself. Seems lose-lose since it has a small return when markets are going down.

>> No.17979060

>>17979044
just google it

>> No.17979062

>>17979036
based

>> No.17979069

>https://breaking911.com/breaking-california-governor-deploys-national-guard-after-ordering-stay-at-home-order/

>California Governor Gavin Newsom says he has deployed National Guard members to provide “short-term food security to isolated and vulnerable Californians.”

>“It’s in these times of crisis that Californians are at their best, coming to the aid of those in their community who are most in need. Food banks provide a critical lifeline for families, and are needed now more than ever. Families across our state are suddenly losing work, and millions of Californians most vulnerable to COVID-19 are staying home to protect their health and the health of others. I ask all Californians who are able to join our Neighbor-to-Neighbor campaign to safely assist those in need in your community.”
RED RED RED

>> No.17979072

>>17979029
SOXL

>> No.17979076

>>17979044
Yeah, but the deposit will rise or fall depending on how many people are willing to take the bet.

>> No.17979077

>>17979036
wow, a dog's asshole and n*ggers nice photo

>> No.17979087

>>17979044
For all newfags and brainlets

At least watch the first 5 videos its 20mins total

>> No.17979088

>>17979014
>Which ones are the cheapies?
Everything.

>> No.17979097

>>17979036
I revise my estimate that the disease will peak in mid April. The disease will peak two weeks after America enters a mandatory national lockdown that's enforced with firepower. Because you dumb niggers don't fucking listen, holy shit.

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>>17979077
nice digits and yeh, it is a good photo

>> No.17979105

>>17979087
forgot link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuCH7fHZsZ4&list=PL55F11C99198EAE65&index=1

>> No.17979108

>>17979017
But are they taking from the members? Unions don’t have to steal from the business when they can tax the trade workers and make more... legally

>> No.17979109

what if corona mutates so it kills boomers and millennials? o__o

>> No.17979116

>>17979108
There are dues.

>> No.17979122

>>17979099
nice digits AGAIN

>> No.17979133

>>17979036
>work and school cancelled
beach day!

>> No.17979146

>>17979122
digits!!!!!!

>> No.17979149

>>17978770
Holy shit. I could retire and live just like I am right now with this amount of money.
Too bad I'm too much of a pussy to trade options.

>> No.17979150

>>17979116
Exactly

>> No.17979155

>>17979133
dubs!

>> No.17979157

>>17979088
I don’t think so.
I don’t think a lot of these are ever going to be the same. For example Disney has too much revenue from theme parks, cruises, resorts, movie theatres.

This quarantine to save the boomers is going to accelerate the movement towards virtualization.

>>17979097
Are you a foreigner looking to understand the US from one tweet?

Where I am... people are barely going to the gas stations and grocery stores. Everything is being delivered.

WHY DIDNT I BUY AMZN AT 6500!!!???!!?!?

>> No.17979164

>>17979029
VTSAX

>> No.17979168

>>17979122
>>17979155
what the fuck

>> No.17979171

Is it possible, dare I say, that the US measures taken will greatly mitigate the virus and we actually won't be anywhere near as btfo as Italy? I mean, even Germany and Italy's neighbors aren't looking like they're in terrible shape. Italy itself looks like a nightmare, but we will almost definitely avoid that fate.

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>stimulus hits
>SPY still red
>mfw

>> No.17979179

>>17978737
Because this is what I hoped for. Based Corona-Chan will wipe away all of the filth, and everything else.

>> No.17979183

>>17979069
Such bullshit. This is Soviet-tier manipulation. We'll see soon enough when the guardsmen start patrolling streets with APCs and machine guns to 'distribute food'.

>> No.17979186

>>17979157
I'm a Canadian terrified the Little Wuhan you're building in Seattle will spill over onto the Island

>> No.17979190

>>17979171
The only way the virus ends quick is if they find a cure.

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>>17979149
>The only options available for me is shitty polak WIG20 with no volatility at all

>> No.17979198

>>17979171
our measures aren't stringent enough to escape italy's fate, only delay and hide it for a bit

>> No.17979208

>>17979192
Can't you trade SPY options on XTB?
Fellow polak asking.

>> No.17979216
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OH NO NO NO

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>>17979171
Honestly half the US population is going to be wiped out and I can't wait

>> No.17979223

>>17979216
rude

>> No.17979238

>>17979216
kek

>> No.17979242

>>17979171
not if this >>17979036 is happening in one of the states with the most cases

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>>17978669
WHAT THE FUCK HOW WAS THIS RIGHT AGAIN?!

>> No.17979274

Why does everyone keep saying daytrading is very hard or impossible, how hard can it be to predict if big line go up or down?

>> No.17979277

>>17979186
Which island?
>>17979222
Damn she cute
Why am I alone
Fuck
>>17979242
Haven’t you ever heard of those chicken pox parties parents use to do so their kids could get it over with at a convenient time?
Everyone getting corona’ed now are the lucky ones.

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>>17978770
This. After trying to find the right stocks to short, I burned myself out and it never went exactly as I wanted. The obvious answer is just short spy and QQQ, I'm already 50% up. ITS SO SIMPLE!

>> No.17979293

>>17979216
jk

>> No.17979295

>>17979258
wtf
WHAT THE FUC

>> No.17979301

>>17978913
Stimulus has been priced in retard, literally everyone has been hearing about stimulus for the past 2 weeks. Its not going to do SHIT.

>> No.17979303

>>17979171
>we actually won't be anywhere near as btfo as Italy
If we magic 20 million test kits and the reagents to process them out of thin air, lock down our entire country in the next 4 days, actually start listening to CDC recommendations as a people, and increase our supply of medical supplies and staff by 60% yesterday, we won't be BTFO as bad as Italy.

I'm pretty sure they're deliberately letting the country burn to spare the economy at this point. Millions dead is cheaper than a depression.

>> No.17979304

>>17979274
do it and show us your graph, you'll need 25k minimum, another 2k to account for fluctuations so you don't dip below 25 if you have to hold your positions

>> No.17979309

>>17979274
You're up against people with multiple PhDs who's sole job is to figure out ways how to predict if the line goes up or down and they get paid to do this 8+ hours per day. Good luck.

>> No.17979315

>>17979301
We’ve also been hearing that the deaths and infections will now be increasing exponentially, is that priced in too?

>> No.17979317

>>17979274
cope mostly

>> No.17979320

>>17979277
there's literally one worthwhile island on the entire west coast take a guess m8

>> No.17979326

>>17979274

Just scrape 25 grand together and see for yourself anon.

>> No.17979333

>>17979315
Yeah it's expected. Bull dildo on Monday

>> No.17979336

>>17979164
Alternatively, VTI for the etf version.

>> No.17979348

>>17979171
>1. Quarantine everyone
>2. Have everyone tested
>3. Isolated anyone infected
>Epidemic over in a week

Its literally that easy why are all of these governments retarded?

>> No.17979359

>>17979304
>>17979326
no minimum for daytrading in canada
https://www.daytrading.com/rules/canada

>> No.17979360

>>17979315
They are trying to price it in, but nobody knows what will happen. Its easy to read a bill put through congress, you can't read the future.

>> No.17979362

>>17979258
The fuck is that?

>>17979274
It's not impossible, but it's hard to find the spot where the line will bounce at

>> No.17979363

>>17979348
It would still take a month if you did it that way.

Plus we would need 100million+ tests and the capacity to process them.

>> No.17979368

I want to see some hostile takeovers in the coming weeks, but unfortunately there are like a whole 2 companies in existence that aren't running on 20x leverage and bankrupt.

>> No.17979376

>>17979320
Is victoria on an island?

>> No.17979380

>>17979362
That's what I'm trying to figure out.

>> No.17979382
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>We live in the timeline where Dems got voted out out of worries from Republicans that they'd round them up in FEMA concentration camps to die and now Republicans are going to violate quarantine orders and get rounded up in FEMA concentration camps to die because they voted in a Republican president that fucked up a pandemic response and they're too stupid to follow government orders
God has a good sense of humor.

>> No.17979390

>>17979380
where did you find it?

>> No.17979396

>>17979376
yes, vancouver island

which vancouver is not on

>> No.17979397

>>17979044
It's a lot more complicated than that, if it rises you can easily lose one hundred times your deposit.

>> No.17979402

>https://twitter.com/fightfor15/status/1241032717354987521?s=20

>This morning Monterey Park, California, McDonald's workers went ON STRIKE because @McDonalds isn't adequately protecting us from #Coronavirus. Fast-food workers are FED UP and we aren't alone!
The McDonald's strikes are coming

>> No.17979406

>>17979362
Who cares about the sweet spot just make profit

>> No.17979411

>>17979359

No idea what markets/fees you leaves can access. If you can make a profit, then more power to you.

>> No.17979417

>>17979363
1 month complete shutdown and paying for testing everyone would still be way better than shutting down for a year and having an economic collapse

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>>17979402
Hambaga's are a highest tier national treasure in America. This will have dire repercussions.

>> No.17979419

>>17979014
Scooping up cheapies, and not just stocks. Found an AMAZING deal on a camper, getting it next week (folks liquidating their assets to consolidate). May actually think about renting my current home out and scoping out new property once the housing bubble finally pops. Let my mortgage payment itself off and after a year or so get a house built on property.

The last few days have been a blessing in disguise once I started thinking outside the (financial) box

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>> No.17979431

>>17979411
When I signed up to WealthSimple it automatically set me up for US and Canadian stonk trading. If we trade on your exchange we have to play by your daytrading rules, and there's some fuckery with dividend taxes.

>> No.17979440

>>17979426
roll

>> No.17979445

>>17979390
4chan

>> No.17979449

>>17979216
Kek

>> No.17979450

>>17979426
Rolling for 4, the happiest number.

>> No.17979451

>>17979402
Fucking hospitals can't even get enough masks and these retards are complaining that they aren't properly protected.

>> No.17979456

>>17979440
>>17979450
Absolutely unaccounted for.

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>>17979426
>no rape gang
Fuck your paradigm.

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Internal passports. I thought this was something only communist countries did.

>> No.17979465

>>17979426
>no 0

>> No.17979467

>>17979431

Not an familar on canadian markets, you get 3 trades every 5 trading days on the us markets if you're under 25 thousand. Any more and you'll get flagged as a pattern trader and be forced to cough up 25 grand or be forced to liquidate and get your account frozen for 30 days.

>> No.17979468

>>17978977
Or how about that people think it’s gonna be green because they assume everyone else is thinking it’s gonna be red. It ends up being red

>> No.17979470

>>17979396
Vancouver is fucked. Their infection rate will outpace the entire province of Ont

>> No.17979473

>>17979451
>Believing

>> No.17979481

>>17979222
I wish I had a cute petite chick to slam my porker belly against like this chad does

>> No.17979488

>>17979216
do you want...

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>>17979440
>>17979450
>>17979456
>>17979465
lmao, Kek called the fuck out of that incomplete roll chart.

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>>17979464
Plenty of work making masks in your FEMA camp.

>> No.17979494

>>17979470
i’m trapped bros

>> No.17979496

>>17979426

>> No.17979505

>>17979426
roll for 4 or 9 for peak comf

>> No.17979506

>>17979496
Moonman would be proud.

>> No.17979507

>>17979426
do you want total war

>> No.17979513

>>17979494
fuck a chink and start the cycle. You will have antbodies before shtf

>> No.17979515

>>17979417
The ridiculous length shutdown response models are basically what you're asking for. There's not enough testing capacity to go around so you just try to starve the virus into a small enough population that you can maybe purge it the rest of the way with testing+tracing+quarantines. If you miss some or it slips back into the country, you try to kill it while it's manageable and if you fail you quarantine SOONER for a shorter duration and try to purge it again once levels are low enough.

Shorter shutdown models basically just say fuck it to trying to get rid of the thing before the vaccine drops. They just shut down whenever its getting bad enough until it is back into manageable levels and then open up again until it gets bad again while using testing to slow it down. Basically the same thing as the prior, but you just assume you wouldn't get it all so you buy yourself a few extra weeks of having shit open.

Shortest shutdown models just involves letting a set % of the country get infected to build up herd immunity and then shutting down to drop numbers again. As each time you do that it takes longer to get back to the same % infected you quickly slow the virus and stay open much more than the other models...but you kill half as many people as the worst option.

Worst option is the let it all burn. No shut downs. Anyone dumb enough to be out and about or let someone into their home that wasn't immune didn't deserve to live anyway. Knock this shit out in 2 months.

>> No.17979519

>>17979426
Roll for survivalist loner

>> No.17979528
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>>17979258

>> No.17979529

>>17979426
rawling

>> No.17979530

>>17979426
Let's go.

>> No.17979553

>>17979470
good maybe the real estate bubble bursts and the chinese who own 30% of real estate in Toronto lose billions

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>>17979419
neat! I'm thinking this is a good time to hoard cash though... been reducing my holding now about 50% cash (the fact that my stocks are now worth my much less helped even that ratio out) still haven't tapped my bearfund for cheapies.

>>17979426
I'll roll on this gayass incomplete chart for 4: merchantchad. Roaming between encampments, picking up sexy ladies once I've got coronaimmunity and lost a kidney, both testicles, and half a lung to the long term effects of the virus.

>> No.17979575

>>17979553
(you'll just get fresh foreigners to buy up more land if it gets cheaper)

>> No.17979584 [DELETED] 

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Join us guys so we can hang out during the market crash

>> No.17979598

>>17979258
This is a pretty fucking good farmers almanac of markets.

>> No.17979599

>>17979491
0 with red id is Gayboy Berzerker.
0 with green ID is Smegma Crazy.

>> No.17979605
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>>17978669
>writing covered calls
>it's literally free money
okay why the fuck didn't you stupid niggers tell me about this?

>> No.17979606

>>17979584
I'm sorry I'm not joining discord since I am not a homosexual a furry or a tranny

>> No.17979609

is the world ending bros?

>> No.17979619

>>17979609
Yes

>> No.17979625

>>17979606
we ban trannies furries and faggots

>> No.17979626
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>>17979426
roll

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>>17978743
>delusion
yes

>> No.17979628

>>17978770
>>17978797
Taking some inspo from you my friend
If Monday is red does that mean I should buy SPY calls?

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>>17979609
God I hope so

>> No.17979643

>>17979599
Checked. But what does a brown ID that says "Hate Buyer" mean?

>> No.17979668

>>17979605

Because you have to hold onto the stock and if you're writing deep ITM calls you get fucked over by the liquidity and spread. If you are holding stocks you're better off buying ATM puts and exercising, selling to cover your losses, or rolling them.

>> No.17979669

I've lost just about everything, and what I haven't lost, I've made peace with probably losing it soon. Shit

>> No.17979684

>>17979669
The good news is that we're heading towards a place where money is worthless anyways. You can make up your losses by trading bullets, liquor, and smokes.

>> No.17979686

what happened to SNSS guy?
the sheer lack of concrete dates always made me suspicious but man- not good for him

>> No.17979698

>>17979258
I don't get what the middle triangle is supposed to show. What does it mean when it lines up with the bigger triangle vs being on its own?

>> No.17979702

New York is so screwed. They just reported like 400 cases in one refresh

>> No.17979712

>>17979684
You're probably being ironic but I get the feeling we probably are. But hey, what the fuck have I got to lose now anyway

>> No.17979717

>>17979702
All liberal shitholes are fucked. Praise Jesus. This is Sodom and Gomorrah all over again.

>> No.17979720

>>17979698
It means it's a minor boom, an inbetween

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>>17979702

>> No.17979735

>>17979717
more like bat and ramen

>> No.17979738

>https://twitter.com/gelizabeths/status/1241165445836574720?s=20

>Tanks have arrived in #SanDiego
Um bros? ;_;

>> No.17979750

>>17979702
The entire country is so screwed. Why in God's name would you think it's not everywhere else if it's in the most significant travel hub int the country?

Fuck's sake, Spanish Flu made it out to remote Alaskan villages 4 years after the opening of the first commercial airline.

>> No.17979754

>>17979553
it will be interesting to see what happens to these overheated markets in 6 months. Real estate sales/data, this time around, will lag the other economic data.
Although, I think BoC will keep(mimic the Fed) interest rates close to 0 for the next 18-24months

>> No.17979757

odd - fap
even - don't fap

>> No.17979761

>>17979605
>Hold stock
>sell covered call
>stock goes down
>make money from option
>but then your stock also goes down
>so you sell another call
>but then it goes up
>and now you are forced to sell your stock at a loss
>but at least I got that premium!

>> No.17979768

For some reason I'm seeing based and redpilled tweets all over my feed. None of them have been taken down. Twitter moderation staff gone? Big if true, and that's a good thing.

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>>17979426
Rolling

>> No.17979796

>>17979738
I HEAR THEM

>> No.17979802

>>17979426
rolling for jew

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>>17979426
>>17979790
stupid fucking thing

>> No.17979826

>>17979426
rolling

>> No.17979828

>>17979761
That’s true only if you’re willing to sell a call at a strike price less than your DCA + all earnings generated from selling calls .

With IV where it is and so many share prices slashed 30+%, theres probably some good ones worth getting 100 shares of and playing that game. Maybe a BAC or a PFE or a VIAC or a TACO?

>> No.17979836

Anyone else here made a decent chunk of change but feeling borderline suicidal they didn't go bigger sooner? I've made $40k this month, but I could've made 20x that...

>> No.17979844
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>Oil will recover guys!
>Any day now!

>> No.17979858

>>17979426
Roll. I need a job.

>> No.17979861

>>17979836
a lot people got wiped out. You should be happy. Don't risk all your gains going forward.

>> No.17979868

>>17979426
Rolling

>> No.17979869

>>17979836
We still have so much more drop to go. This epidemic has quite literally just started in the United States. We're rapidly heading to - 60% on all indices. Just be glad that you've made a return and can now readjust to make that magical $500,000 - $1,000,000 paycheck as we keep on tumbling down.

I'm still waiting for my $TSLA and $AMD puts to print and have all my capital tied up. I would've been better off shorting $SPY. I'll probably just end up with $40,000 even when we're at that absolute bottom point.

>> No.17979870

>>17979836

There's always next week anon.

>> No.17979873

>>17979426
rolling

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>>17979258
>20, 16, 18, 20
>10, 8, 9, 10
>3, 6, 2, 5, 4, 7
>9, 7, 11
Okay. The man who wrote this found a genie and made a very clever wish.

>> No.17979894

GUYS
IS THE FED ACTUALLY GOING TO PRINT MONEY: ARE THEY GOING TO BUY CORPORATE BONDS?!?! Is that what the commercial paper facility is?

>>17979844
Huh I guess you’re right. Louisiana light is already squeezing up that high?
>>17979702
NOOOOOOO
MY SMALL MINORITY OF STAND UP COMICS I ENJOY!!!
>>17979712
Ehhhh a little inflation is fine, it’s why I’m buying more gold while the dollar is so damn strong. This deflation is not fine. And it’s not likely we’ll be getting hyperinflation. The rest of the world will devalue their currencies against ours and so many countries will have Monopoly money by the time we get major inflation.

Jesus Christ this is why buffett has been sitting on cash. Right now, all those companies that only have 20 days of operating capital are really going to sweat. But the Berkshire businesses have some capital to tap in to.

>> No.17979912

>>17979686
I don't think SNSS has given any concrete dates for 500mg data other than Q2 2020.

>> No.17979922
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>>17979868
>that feel when you're a bluecollar stiff even in the post apocalypse

>> No.17979937

>they're still trading in normal stocks and etfs instead of derivatives in this fucking situation
all retarded

>> No.17979939

>>17979894
Over the last few weeks, the Fed has basically said they will intervene in any part of the market necessary. The government has said they will intervene where the Fed doesn't.
The Fed has said they will buy MBS, Municipal Bonds, Corporate Bonds, treasuries and provide a $1T/ day for the rest of the month. The also opened their equity/shares loan program.

THEY WILL BUY EVERYTHING IF THE HAVE TO

>> No.17979945

>>17979426
rollin for 8

>> No.17979946

>>17979894

Did the fed not announce earlier this week that they're buying up prime grade papers?

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>>17979426
rollio

>> No.17979954

>>17979750

feels like alot of people still dont realized how fucking bad is going to get in the USA and UK

>> No.17979978

>>17979939
I meant $1T in the Repo Market. Also forgot to say in my post is that they will backstop Money Market Funds as well.

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17979979

>be me
>be college dropout
>doompost around the internet during an pandemic to kill time
>a fucking Ivy League professor of biostatistics specializing in epidemiology just fucking quoted one such doompost
Deep down I was hoping I didn't know what I was talking about...Fuck!

>> No.17979981

>>17979939
this scares me more than anything else about the current decline. we are so unbelievably fucked in the future if the government doesnt let unproductive capital fail in the long run

>> No.17979982

>>17979939
how does multiple trillions of dollars created out of nothing not turn us into zimbabwe?

>> No.17979983

>>17979979
link?

>> No.17980011

unpopular opinion: debt should be no less than 10% interest rate because humans don't know how to adequately price in tail risk

>> No.17980017

$35 airplane tickets for domestic travel in the US. Cheaper than shoes and a hoodie.

>> No.17980028

>>17979982
I recommend looking up how a Repo Market works. They aren't 'giving' banks money. Its essentially a loan
>>17979981
sometimes they do. Lehman Bros, Worldcom, Enron. LTCM and all the dot com companies - which makes one think if Google, Amazon and Microsoft have reached the status of to big to fail

>> No.17980033

>>17979982
because every other country is doing it even worse

>> No.17980041

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17980048

>>17978747
> YOLO
sounds like you really, really want someone to buy your bags, huh?

>> No.17980056

>>17979954
It depends on what the government does. CA and NY are already on lockdown. Trump should've locked down the whole country two weeks ago, but there's still time to prevent a complete catastrophe if he does it next week. We can cap the peak number of active cases at say a couple million, which is a lot worse than China, but at the end of the day it means maybe an extra 50K old people die this year, half of whom would've croaked anyway.

Or things could be a lot worse if all they do is mail everyone Trumpbux.

>> No.17980075

>>17980011
Now you understand why usury was forbidden in Christianity and Islam. Then you must realize that Jews were the only people who practiced excessive lending and usury.

>> No.17980087

>>17979983
https://twitter.com/nataliexdean/status/1237574860965998594

The "quote" she was referring to is from me shitposting about the end times in the (don't judge it's genuinely less cancerous than /pol/ somehow) Fox New comments section. I thought it was a quote too since it sounded a bit pithy for me, so I googled it to see where it had come from since I'd been saying it for a few weeks, but I apparently made it up. Zero fucking results other than her.

>> No.17980097

>>17979937
Nah there’s plenty of options trading and funky ETFs.
For me, it’s SOXS FNGD SRTY SDOW

>>17979946
I dunno, I’ve only heard commercial paper facility.
>>17979978
Don’t fully understand what’s happening in money market funds. Goldman had a podcast explains that the money market curve inverted and a bunch of other fuckery that made me feel like a total brainlet.
>>17979979
Kek bullshit I’m gonna need a link. She borrowed the words of a random shitposter?
>>17979982
Like the other posters said, repo is not printing money, and other countries around the world are also doing this ZC and trying to devalue their currency against the dollar. Also, Zimbabwe’s currency does not have the same role the USD does.

Most of the world’s business contracts are written using dollars, so one needs dollars to honor their contracts. In effect, that means the party on the buying end of the contract is short the USD, and has to buy USD to fill their end of the contract. So there is plenty of demand for the dollar.

>>17980056
I Xi’s strategy actually didn’t work, and now they’re just going to get wave after wave of infection slowly rolling through the country, it may actually be better not to do that, and to let it infect who it infects until there’s a herd immunity. Or something. There’s just too little we know about the virus and about how the infection is actually playing out in China.

>> No.17980108

>>17980075
Your parents haven't told you religion is fake yet?

>> No.17980110

>>17980097
See
>>17980087

>> No.17980113

>>17980097
That’s supposed to say IF Xi’s strategy didn’t work

>> No.17980115

>>17979939
why do you think the wallstreet people fund the fucking campaigns of the congress fuckers? out of the goodness of their heart? because they share the same values? or simply because they will offer them jobs if they vote for a fucking bailout when shit hits the fan.

>> No.17980125

>>17980097
Xi is probably having the infected shot and burned

>> No.17980131

>>17979258
How the fuck do you read that and why isn’t 2020 on it

>> No.17980133

>>17980108
Religion is fake yet a religious ethnostate called "Israel" exists. Should you just pretend they don't exist fucking idiot?

>> No.17980144

no bully.
I'm currently learning options on an option simulator. I placed an order for puts with strike price of 220 and expiration date 4/14. Does it mean that they will be bought at the market price of the previous close? and I will only be able to close them @ profit when SPY hits 220?

>> No.17980146

>>17979216
fuck you.

>> No.17980150

>>17980133
I'm pretty sure they use religion as an excuse to fuck goats. Same with Catholics and fucking babies ect

>> No.17980155

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/pictures-that-show-just-how-well-social-distancing-has
Sorry for linking BuzzFeed but I guess NYC is fucked

>> No.17980161

>>17980097
>Xi’s strategy actually didn’t work,

Look like it worked to me. I'm not saying the virus is eliminated in China, but they seem to have it under control. There will undoubtedly be local outbreaks in the future, but they seem equipped to detect that and respond quickly.

The critical issue is to not overflow hospital capacity. If we just let it run wild until herd immunity is acquired, there could be >10 million deaths since that will require >200 million cases. We have maybe 40K ICU beds available in the entire country right now.

The best solution is to lock down the country for a month while mass producing tests, masks, and ventilators. Then ease the restrictions in conjunction with mass testing + mandatory quarantines, like they're doing in Singapore.

>> No.17980163

>>17979426
rollo

>> No.17980166

>>17979738
Old video retard

>> No.17980170

>>17980155
Oy vey it's like annudah shoah!

>> No.17980172

>>17979875
What do you mean anon?

>> No.17980179

>>17980144

If it's not 219.99 or less by 4/14 you have a piece of paper you can wipe your ass with. You can sell anytime before that for whatever, given there's a buyer willing to pay. Otherwise if it's under 220 you can exercise the contract to sell 100 SPY at 220 each before or at expiry.

>> No.17980180

>>17980144
>Does it mean that they will be bought at the market price of the previous close?
almost certainly not
>>17980144
>and I will only be able to close them @ profit when SPY hits 220?
if by close you mean exercise then the price must reach the strike price and the cost of premium before you profit, this is the break even price. if by close you mean close your position, you can sell it at any point in which the premium is higher than what you paid for it

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>>17980161
There are literally millions dead in China but they will never admit it. You think they just have a city (Wuhan) of (formerly) 11 million slaves just not work for 3 months? They are just letting them die and not testing or reporting anymore.

>> No.17980193

>>17980184
why is this land whale on your feed

>> No.17980213

>>17980115
A whole lot of reasons, but usually garden variety favorable treatment, like inventing bullshit reasons to oppose legislation that might harm those companies.
>>17980125
I guess maybe, if it weren’t an infectious disease it would be better to have them worked to death then have the ashes mixed into the concrete for further construction projects.

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>>17978669
>tfw this endless currency injection is unironically making me a Nazi

Are we seeing history repeat itself?

>> No.17980217

>>17979426
rolling for repairman/artisan

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>>17980216

>> No.17980230

>>17979426
Hi

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>>17980184
No bitch.. you keep your fucking distance.. i can smell your tit sweat from here

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17980237

Next week lows predictions?

I'm thinking 15k

>> No.17980239

Damn, if only I got a billion dollar bail-out every time I made bad decisions.

>> No.17980251

>>17979426
Sure

>> No.17980252

You might imagine the mid high IQ person as the average college student who shows decent cognitive abilities yet is destined to a life of mediocrity and just following along whatever paradigm is taught in their respective institution. The mid high IQ person is capable of processing enormous amounts of boring yet complex information, spending their entire life in the same repetitive job purely in the expectation of some future reward, if they just keep towing the line. While they are more aware of the world around them than their precursors, mid IQ people are completely incapable of offering any worthwhile solutions outside what is already known. Rarely found outside the center of the political paradigm, the mid IQ person is reluctant to believe in anything that is not strictly documented, while taking no vocal position on anything as they believe in the tantrum of the third way which they mistakenly perceive as being woke.

>> No.17980253

>>17980179

Fuck I misread. No you can buy the contract at whatever the price is listed on the ask. The further the strike is from market, the more varied it becomes. If SPY is 205/OTM and you're getting a 200, then you pay less than if SPY was at 195/ITM and you got the 200 because of the $5 ITM market price being baked into the contract. If you're getting a 200 SPY at 200, then hypothetically the price = time value premium.

>> No.17980258

>>17980232
It would be rather difficult to keep your distance from her in any kind of enclosed space.

>> No.17980266

>>17980239
I know right? Must feel good to have leverage in muh labor market.

>> No.17980269

>>17980239
Your bad decisions don't affect anyone but your own lonely self.

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>>17980258
she looks like the type of girl that argues with you when you are agreeing with her

>> No.17980280

>>17980216
No retard, the reichmark was a shitcoin from the start. It was never the dominant global currency. And no matter how much the meme is posted, repo operations are not printing money.

Now what they’re talking about doing, and what the ECB is talking about as well, buying corporate bonds, THAT will be printing money.

>>17980239
Boeing is necessary. But goddamn it if they give that shit to casinos and cruise ships and those tea party fucks don’t put their hats on and raise bell, I’m going to be very pissed off.

WE DONT NEED GODDAMNED CRUISELINES AND CASINOS FOR NATIONAL SECURITY AND DOMINANCE OF AEROSPACE INDUSTRIES. LET THAT SHIT DIE IF IT CANT MAKE IT.

>> No.17980288

>>17980232
doge adorable landwhale fucking disgusting

>> No.17980292

Is $TVIX still a buy??

>> No.17980298

>>17980273
lmao, surprised he didn't get smacked for sticking his finger up her hole

>> No.17980310

>>17980179
yeah I got that OOM contracts cost less.

>> No.17980312

>>17979216
wow

>> No.17980320

Looking for good MLPs, REITs and dividend stocks to invest it once I make it from shorting this market into the ground.
I have my eye on FUN and AB so far + the autism spreadsheet of dividend aristocrats.. I want to grab a good Permian pipeline company, some REITs with better divies than O and maybe a timber company. plz shill me non-shit companies

>> No.17980333

>>17979426
lets fucking goooo

>> No.17980338

>>17980310

Just to add, when you said buy at market price of previous close you're thinking of mutual funds, since that's how they calculate the cost basis for that.

>> No.17980345

>>17980320
I would hold off on the REITs for a little imo... this whole situation might cause a domino effect and tumble housing.. maybe not that much but enough to effect some REITs... it'll probably take a while for real estate to get effected.... could possibly see equitys market recover followed by a real estate slump .. just my opinion tho...

>> No.17980354

>>17980292
Too risky compared to other plays like puts on ETFs or just buying non-leveraged inverse ETFs.

>>17980320
Be weary. Many will be forced to cut dividends or even dissolve. They may not lose much now, but in a year they will be hurting as businesses and people can no longer afford their buildings and homes.

>> No.17980372

man I wish jordan peterson was around to tell us how radical individualism is the way forward

>> No.17980373

>>17980354
Damn, I can't believe I've missed this 10x shot and only did 2x fuck. And I knew about this upcoming crisis from January, I could've been a millionaire by now

>> No.17980376

>>17980320
>plz shill me non-shit companies
CVX
MU
GOOG

>> No.17980391

>>17980269
Get rid of the thing making bad decisions, don't bail it out

>> No.17980406

>>17980373
You didn miss anything. The truth is nobody knew how it would move. The real way to win is buying at the bottom. Also next year will be perfect for house buying when house prices fall and rates are lowest possible.

>> No.17980412

>>17979567
Keeping a bear fund may not be such a bad idea. I've just been buying down to the bottom (wherever that may be). I didn't have some ONTX off to get some more CRF (looking at the dividend on that one mostly).

I don't see my overall plan as a bad one persay, but the odds are very likely that I'll be revising them a time or two down the stretch. The election could either fast forward it or blow it up completely

>> No.17980419

>>17980373
>I can’t believe I only doubled my money when most other people saw many years of investment gains wiped out in a month.
Dude.
C’mon
I knew too and I still managed to lose money bigtime. The people who made fortunes lucked out with how sudden and intense the drop was. This was a completely abnormal crash, really like nothing we’ve seen before. And I hate to say it but there’s more pain on the horizon. There’s no way to know if it’ll be quick like this month or slower and full of Retracements like a standard crash, so I’m sticking with inverse ETFs.

I wonder how many people and algos actually give a shit about a dow deathcross and will sell because of it.

>> No.17980425

>>17980391
kinda funny how republicans don't want a nanny state unless it's to bailout the companies they're connected to.

>> No.17980433

>>17979105
Thank you so much, hugely helpful.

>> No.17980437

>>17980406
I don't think the house market will crash that hard. It depends on how corona-chan will develop though. If it doesn't kill 1 out of every 100 muricans, the real estate could continue to boom.

>> No.17980444

>>17980391
That doesn’t punish the people who made bad decisions, it punishes literally millions of people who had no power in the decision making process.

I’m talking about Boeing here. I see some practical purpose of bailing out Boeing. I’m not happy about it, but it didn’t take me long after the second crash to connect the dots that Boeing is too big to fail.

>>17980425
They also only care about being fiscally conservative when the Dems are in office.

>> No.17980461

>>17980320
O isn't bad at all with it being monthly, and it's sunk by almost half. Once the housing bubble eventually does pop, that would be a prime purchasing time. Until then I'm scooping up NRZ since it's a LOT cheaper (.50 per quarter, which in the long run may pay more than O if they keep their dividends going).

>> No.17980469

>>17980437
>dead old people
>people without jobs
>people defaulting mortgages
>banks desperate for cash
>Chinese being deported
Its coming, be ready.

>> No.17980489

>>17978699
>those cheap linkies
COOOOMMMMIN

>> No.17980491

>>17979426
Watch this.

>> No.17980498
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17980498

Wait, California fire season isn't going to sit around and not happen just because there's a pandemic, will it?

California is in a world of fuk

>> No.17980507

New thread:

>>17980502
>>17980502
>>17980502

>> No.17980583

>>17980498
It’s really cold right now. I heard we’re going into a solar minimum or something, could be a strange year. Especially after the fires were so intense last year.

>> No.17980599

>>17980273
Is this what chads do? Chubby ass fuckwits chasing after nigger tail by sticking their finger in their bum and dry humping?

>> No.17980626

>>17978884
did he die?

>> No.17980632

>>17980599
he doesn't look like a chad...

>> No.17980637
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17980637

DC is extra fucked.

>> No.17980831

>>17978995
The stock you hold will split as well. Splits won't affect you.

>> No.17980842

>>17980172
Even if they look regular by the spikes, the numbers are completely random. That's why it looks like fucking magic.

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>>17978770
any eurocucks or dutchbros in here that use puts or shorts?
Does degiro have them? and if not what do you use?
looking for an exchange on the moment

>> No.17980972

>>17979426
Rolling for dubs

>> No.17981775

>>17979222
who ?