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>> No.17894218
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IT'S
NOT
RED ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.17894219
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You can only reply to this post if more than 50% of your portfolio is leveraged inverse ETFs

>> No.17894225
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Are they going to make a second run of DOW 20,000 hats?

>> No.17894228

Huh, so Yang won after all

>> No.17894232

>>17894219
Do puts on triple leveraged ETFs count?

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>> No.17894239

>>17894218
It's coming down. Give it time.

>> No.17894241
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I'm ready for a black Wednesday

>> No.17894243
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>We haven't even hit a futures breaker
yawn, how boring

>> No.17894252
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no one's ever really gone...

>> No.17894254

So is anyone buying calls for when this all blows over?

>> No.17894260
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Undervalued as fuck.

>> No.17894262
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Tomorrow another breaker if the future keeps bleeding like this, which it probably will overnight.

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>>17894232
No only calls, or puts on bull ETFs

>> No.17894270

How the fuck are you suppose to anticipate it dumping red in a straight line after it slowly crawls green for a few ticks. It just fucking crates before I can even react.

>> No.17894279

>>17894260
Good meme

>> No.17894282

Apparently there was a shooting at the grocery store in the rich part of Omaha half an hour ago according to fagbook

People are starting to get restless

>> No.17894286

Keep memeing Bobo, the Bulls are back in town.

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what is the purpose of throwing the breaker anyway?

>people want to make exchanges
>"tsk tsk tsk no no no"
Like fuck you, let me make my trades asshole

>> No.17894294

>futures still haven't hit circuit breakers
The dream is over bros...

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>>17894219
It really is this easy

>> No.17894307

>>17894270
Bro if you're trying to trade individual candles you're gonna fucking die

>> No.17894309
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I'm pretty sure it's nukes next week.

>> No.17894315

>>17894270
BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FUCKED RIGHT NOW IT SHOULD NOT EVEN GO UP

>> No.17894321
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S&P Approaching -3.0

>> No.17894325

>>17894260
I'd buy that for a dollar

>> No.17894327

>>17894289
I think the idea is that it gives people time to calm down and not spiral the market into hell.


Unfortunately, hell's already here and the market is just adjusting to meet it so all the breaker does right now is slow down the progress.

>> No.17894329

>>17894260
Will be at $2.

>> No.17894330

>>17894252
Greenspan was the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ItzrlJ_Vg

>> No.17894338

>>17894219
Yes.

>> No.17894342

Still a falling knife and better to wait for my trumps bucks to buy in?

>> No.17894348

>>17894282
Big if true.

>> No.17894349
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Whoa! We've got a fighter on our hands! Alright, alright, there's a good bull. Shhhhh, just let it happen.

>> No.17894350

i think tomorrow is the day it turns around.
everyone is going to go back to work and we're just going to pick up where we left off.

>> No.17894352

why is everyone all about SQQQ
and not PSQ, SPDN, SH?

>> No.17894355
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>>17894255
Disclaimer, I am already holding shares of these stocks:

CLR
CVE
MRO
PAA
PE
WES

And if you've got balls of steel for a non-US company
SSL

I bought all these and a few others last week when the fun was really beginning and they're all down since then, which to me in my Benjamin Graham mindset means they're even better buys now.

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>>17894219
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
I WANT BULLTARD BOOMERS DYING IN THE STREET

>> No.17894359

>>17894262
/biz/ has the greatest memes

>> No.17894360

>>17894350
The ride has only just begun

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>>17894219
JUST
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP

Well atleast its just some play around money

>> No.17894363

When the fuuuuuck is the bottom

>> No.17894365
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>>17894350
>Kek here is your (green)

>> No.17894368

>>17894350
>everyone is going to go back to work

lol they are about to announce a nation wide quarantine

>> No.17894369
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>>17894282
EART THE RICH

>> No.17894373

>>17894307
The only indicator I'm really using is SMA. My strategy has been to wait till it dips below SMA, but these last few days it's just been dumping hard.

>> No.17894374

>>17894330

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDpy2wCAnQQ

>> No.17894376

>>17894270
Don’t. If wanna gamble to a casino (when they open again)

>> No.17894380

>>17894342
This is exactly what you are supposed to do with your Trumpbux.

>> No.17894394

>>17894282
KEEP ME UPDATED

>> No.17894396

>>17894307
anyone have that clip of a guy watching a screen full of technicals and a small red candle fucks him, but he has hope, then a giant red candle fucks his shit up.

>> No.17894397

>>17894350
This is some next level delusion. The real fun hasn't even started yet. Wait 'til some of this inflation the fed has created ends up in the supermarket when there's nothing left to buy.

>> No.17894398

>>17894350
People are only just starting to panic now

>> No.17894399

>>17894361
>only 1 SRTY
small caps don't get bailed out and don't have the cash to deal with a pandemic

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>>17894254
If we hit a circuit breaker at open or hit a second circuit breaker during the day I'm going to shift to buying calls for the inevitable bounce on Thursday.

>> No.17894409

>>17894254
no

>> No.17894413

We hit bottom today. Up from here. Hope you loaded you cheap stocks

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>>17894413

>> No.17894426

>>17894397
20% unemployment and kids out of school. Ugh

>> No.17894427

>>17894406
I don't know. Last Wednesday we hit one and then Thursday was a massacre right?

Seems like forever ago too

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>>17894355
>53.39% dividend

>> No.17894433

>>17894327

How ironic that the breakers which are there to prevent economic collapse are instead going to lengthen the collapse and warp the market into delaying the eventual recovery

>> No.17894435

>>17894420
Im being serious. We head back up now

>> No.17894442

>>17894225
Yes.

>> No.17894445

>>17894413
>futures bleeding
>almost under 20k
>Historic drops for one week
Jesus today is full of delusional people

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>>17894289
It's to stop algos from dumping literally everything because a programmer didn't set a limit on it. Not really applicable to the situation right now which is just a legitimate market crash.

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>>17894435

>> No.17894457

UH OH BEAR BROS

>> No.17894458
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CNBC.com
Published 8:38 AM ET
Fri, 22 May 2009

As the Federal Reserve throws more and more money at the economic crisis and holds interest rates down at historic lows, it could be inflating a devastating ‘bailout bubble,’ Gerald Celente, director of Trends Research Institute, told CNBC.

We’re looking at a bailout bubble that’s way bigger than the dotcom bubble before it and the real-estate bubble that we’re now getting out of, or attempting to,” Celente said.

“This is unprecedented; the economic system is being restructured,” he said.

The real-estate bubble was born out of the aftermath of the dotcom bubble because the Fed slashed interest rates and made more funds available, according to Celente.

But because the US government now has a vast equity position in financial institutions, it could mean that there is no bouncing back if a bailout-induced bubble bursts, Celente said.

“When this bubble bursts, there’s no reinflating it because of the government intervention into it so deeply,” he said.

“As you look through history, it seems like governments become emboldened by their failures,” he added.

Celente pointed out that according to the Italian fascist leader Benito Mussolini, the merger of state and corporate powers was called fascism.

“We could call this fascism lite,” he said, referring to the government involvement in free enterprise. “After these kind of catastrophic collapses, sometimes they’re followed by war.”

https://www.cnbc.com/id/30884871

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>>17894349

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>>17894464

>> No.17894482

>>17894260
inb4 Ford gets a Volkswagen style short squeeze later this year.

>> No.17894483
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>tfw I remember always hearing
>anon, you don't understand 2008 was a once in a life time
>this time is different
>stop trying to type the market
>just DCA
>You doomer fag
HAHAHA FUCK YOU, ITS MY TURN NOW

>> No.17894484

>>17894435
>Virus can only get worse in Europe and America
>panic at an all time high
>industry shutting down
>Dow at 20,000
what the fuck are you basing this off? your hopes and dreams?

>> No.17894488

>>17894330
Greenspan was cool in that he looked like the crisis had blessed him with clarity and gave him peace.
Bernanke however, you can really tell that he fancied himself as a rockstar scientist who had fully solved deflation and mastered the arts of monetary police. I don't know if I like him or hate him tbqh.

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>>17894435

You really don't get what is happening do you?
welcome to stage two.

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SHOW ME THAT -4%

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Bull market starts now friendos!

too much liquidity the rich are starting to scoop up deals

time to short VIX because look at the chart

and time to long GLD and BTC

and get ready for that deflationary spiral because the federal reserve has run out of ammo

>> No.17894503

>>17894458
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17894504

Is it possible for Dow futures to go below 20k tonight or is the limit down before that?

>> No.17894514

>>17894435
Bull market was propped up by PowellBucks. PowellBucks no longer work

>> No.17894516

>>17894458
And that's why we never left 2008. That cycle was stopped by a constant money printing and it's been inflating ever since.
Basically kicking the can down the road and now the markets have to pay for it.

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>Australian gov has now closed the border
>No australians in or out for the forseeable future
It's happening lads

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>> No.17894522

>>17894191
These bounces are all the same jesus.

Are there people out there who really aren't buying puts at 3:55 on days like these?

>> No.17894529

>>17894489
Phase 2 is an uppy ups on your chart though

>> No.17894530

what if

what if it's all a spook

i mean i've not seen anyone infected. not like, with my eyes. it's just stuff on the news. what if they fooled us?

>> No.17894531

>>17894219
any fellow bears excited for sub-20k tomorrow?

>> No.17894534

>>17894504
limit down is -5% you do the math

>> No.17894539

>>17894191
Tomorrow is gonna be a fucking bloodbath lmfao

>> No.17894541

why the hell did futures gain 1% since the last time I looked

i need that shit to crash to get my bearbux

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>>17894431
Yeah that's going to change, several have already cut their dividends from where they were when I bought. But yeah them fundamentals man, the market is just panic selling these into the ground for no good reason in my opinion.

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>>17894518
I've seen this one. This is a classic.

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>>17894489
1. Neither 2008 nor 2003 were caused by an uncontrollable externality
2. That chart is intentionally misleading, counting the last FULL YEAR of the bull market as the "first 52 weeks" of the bear market

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>>17894530
Wow! I think you might be right. It's not happening. It's all crisis actors

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>>17894477
Brother!

>> No.17894581

>>17894191

i never got this picture, so being a double digit IQ retard is better than 100-120?

>> No.17894583

>>17894218
My wishlist this week:
SPY $205
SPCE $9
PCG #7

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>> No.17894596

>>17894270
>react
That's not how trading works. Not even day trading is reaction based. You look for setups and bet. Say your TA says trend sone direction from here, you enter position and put a stop loss on it to get you out for modest loss if it goes opposite way on you. If you get some movement in correct direction you move stop to break even. Hold until end of day if you don't get stopped out and you didm't get a sell signal from the TA.

You are using ta, right? Cause if you've git so system for this other than hunch and whim the market is going to smoosh you real bad.

>> No.17894597

>>17894529
simulated uppies so the big boys can unload bags

>> No.17894605

>>17894581
unironically yes

>> No.17894616

>>17894530
I wish, but I saw the videos coming out of China in the weeks following the outbreak before they got memory holed.

>> No.17894618

>>17894581

Your average 110 IQ redditor who’s smart enough to learn and remember things but not smart enough to think critically, independently, and suffers from Dunning Kruger

>> No.17894624

>>17894581
Basically midwits tend to outsmart themselves and get caught in the dunning-kruger effect.

>> No.17894629

VIX Put:Call Ratios:

13th - 1.04
16th - 0.82
17th - 0.32

Here we go again

>> No.17894634

>>17894529
Then it's phase three.
>>17894568
No one says economic trends have to follow a specific amount of time.

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I saw a post earlier today was talking about real time options data and something about yahoo finance. It wasn't important at the time to me, but now it is.

Interactive brokers wants me to pay for real time options quotes. Is this the norm? WTF?

>> No.17894659

>Sanders losing every state by large margins
Bullish

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>>17894191
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.17894664

>>17894581
it represents 4chan. retards and 130+ IQ people are having fun, 110s are just here to shitpost and 120s are frustrated because they dont fit in

>> No.17894668
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Where should I open a brokerage account and why?

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>>17894583
If PCG drops below $7 I start buying in again. Fuck why didn't I sell at $18 and pocket my gains.

I'm legit surprised it didn't crater like everything else though, really it should have been pushed to $5. I guess all the weak hands got out last year.

>> No.17894681

>>17894458
YOU HEARD IT LADS
CALLS ON OIL
GUSHFAGS ARE RIGHT

>> No.17894693

>>17894668
I'm fucking dead

>> No.17894709

05/13/2010
The Big Question: Is the Fed too powerful?

>The Fed does not have too much power; it has too many powers. It has strayed from its mission of controlling the money supply so as to insure full employment with price stability. The worst symptom is the bloating of its balance sheet as it has become “bailout central.” An independent Fed is critical but any Fed is only as good as its chairman and only two – Volcker and McChesney Martin – have served this country well since the 1960s.

...

>The Fed created the current crisis, and now we're told only the Fed can lead us out of it. They created the bubble, and they are strenuously trying to keep it inflated. What they'll succeed in doing is merely prolonging the economic "recession," which is in reality -- as everyone is beginning to discover -- a depression.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/97765-the-big-question-is-the-fed-too-powerful

>> No.17894712

>Nikkei green
What the fuck are they smoking.

>> No.17894716
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Based lunatictrader called it

>> No.17894726

The market isn't oversold. It's struggling with its very last breath and every fiber of its being to hang onto the inflationary highs of the DOW20k+ era.

Bulls expect a white knight to save them, someone with lots and lots of capital to buy up their (still ridiculously inflated) 'cheapies'. Who? All the institutions were balls deep in the market when it crashed. Retail investors are worrying about their jobs and mortgages and reeling from losses to their 401(k)s. Where is this magical capital supposed to come from?

It's not coming. We're going to get a lot worse. We haven't even started, really.

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>>17894580
I don't have many images but The World God Only Knows is a good series

>> No.17894747

>>17894712
They don't have the corona curse fucking their economy so badly

>> No.17894748

>>17894664
Well my IQ isn't 130 and I'm having fun.

>> No.17894751

>>17894219
MY MONEY NOOOOOO

>> No.17894754

Circuit breaker tonight.

>> No.17894756

>>17894589
Where did you find that comment?

>> No.17894759

>>17894726
Again, oversold is not an indicator of valuation.
>>17894716
...wat?
Soooo v shaped recovery time? Kek

>> No.17894765

>>17894236
Very creative.

>> No.17894766

>>17894191
Is this what happens when capital tries to divorce itself from labor? The chickens are coming home to roost.

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>>17894681
Imagine thinking it wont be localized class war.

>> No.17894773

>>17894348
>>17894369
>>17894394
https://www.wowt.com/content/news/Omaha-Police-respond-to-reports-of-shooting-at-west-Omaha-Hy-Vee-568880861.html

All I could find from the news so far, buddies dad was in checkout when the guy started shooting, apparently he blew his brains out after, I don't know if he actually hit anybody, from videos being posted it looks like half the police force showed up, they're always jumpy about shootings ever since the Von Maur shooting 10 years ago. My bet is it was some kid.

>> No.17894775

I bought a share of Tesla today I was going to buy two shares of this ETF but I guess I am fucking idiot for buying anything

>> No.17894783

>>17894236
kekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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>>17894754
>MY OTM puts finally going ITM

>> No.17894794

>>17894759
You only get v patters from bail outs you dumb ass. THERE ARE NO MORE BAIL OUTS THE BAIL OUT BUBBLE IS POPPING

>> No.17894799

>>17894775
Not bad.

>> No.17894807

>>17894794
>you dumbass
Sure looks like a v in that graph no?

>> No.17894812

>>17894236
Need gold on the left end.

>> No.17894822

If i lost 80% on a put today how much can i gain back tomorrow if it goes 300-400% like monday?

>> No.17894831

>>17894413
hahahahahahahaha

N.A.T.I.O.N
W.I.D.E
SHELTER IN PLACE

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>>17894807
recessions don't V, anon..they fucking L

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>>17894822
You don't lose anything until you sell.
Options pricing is incredibly complicated. It depends more on how close to in the money it gets, and how quickly. What put is it specifically?

>> No.17894847

>>17894831
They're going to put us in camps. I bought almost $500 of alcohol and 3 cartons of cigarettes today. I'm fully prepared.

>> No.17894849

This Upswing/downswing cycle is getting very predictable. Would the winning move be to buy shit like TQQQ when it craters tomorrow and sell it Thursday when it rockets back up?

>> No.17894853
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17894853

So how will NYC's lock-down affect the stock market?

>> No.17894854

>>17894807
That graph nore the person who made it are inherently correct. They might not be privy to this fact. This is the difference from being a brainlet and an IQchad

>> No.17894869

>Lean hogs futures up 8.3%

>> No.17894873

>>17894822
I feel you. I bought deep in the momey puts on Boeing. Even hat to call socgen to allow me to buy because they disabled it due to to volatility.

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>>17894832
Oh bobo, this wont be a recession. This is gonna be a full on depression, homie.

>> No.17894885

there we go, futures is plummeting again

>> No.17894889

COME ON SUB -4%

>> No.17894890

>>17894849
>This Upswing/downswing cycle is getting very predictable.
Nope. When things start to looking like a predictable pattern big money is extremely fond of taking things someplace new.

>> No.17894892

>>17894847
>tfw the governor closed all the stores before I could go to total wine

>> No.17894894

>>17894853
All bad news is good news

>> No.17894895
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I'm only following the stock market as a happening. Was there any news today that warranted a +1000 to the DOW only to be lost in Futures, or are people unironically trying to buy the dip?

>> No.17894896

>>17894589
>(((borenstein)))

>> No.17894900

>>17894849
thats how it would seem, but remember it was red Wednesday an Thursday last week, so no one really knows for sure, just don't be one of the idiots here who's die hard bull or bear, follow market trends and try to use your best judgement

>> No.17894904

>>17894840
Its probably going to open ITM or around it so would i then gain my money back or even profit? Its a 235 SPY put

>> No.17894906

>>17894878
Worth it, if it means art deco revivalism.

>> No.17894910

>>17894892
Was it a democrat?

>> No.17894911

>>17894869
This is bullish.

>> No.17894912
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>>17894458
>there is no bouncing back

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>>17894350

>> No.17894915

Can the US even be in a depression again?
Don't we pretty much own the world economy?

>> No.17894919
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>>17894659
it was over after super tuesday. crabbish

>> No.17894922

>>17894869
kek

>> No.17894924

>>17894895
what's a happening

>> No.17894930

>>17894910
Yes.

>> No.17894931

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1240040002026909697

BE CAREFUL

>> No.17894934

>>17894895
No particular news. Just market tide rolling in and out.

>> No.17894936
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Do I seriously have to pay for real time quotes on options? Motherfucking penny pinchers.

I have no clue what one of these is options.

>> No.17894937

>>17894924
it's an occurrence

>> No.17894938
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>>17894458
>Gerald Celente

>> No.17894945

>>17894896
fucking Nigger kike.

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>>17894219
Show me blood red tomorrow

>> No.17894947

>>17894895
No, all green is literally fake and gay Fed pumps

>> No.17894949

>>17894219
100%

>> No.17894956

JIM CRAMER PEOPLE !!!!!!

>> No.17894959
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>>17894896

America’s Exhausted Paradigm: Macroeconomic Causes of the Financial Crisis and Great Recession

Thomas I. Palley
Schwartz Economic Growth Fellow
New America Foundation
Washington DC 2009

https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/59308/1/718077881.pdf

>> No.17894965

>>17894931
They say everything is "the mark of the beast".

>> No.17894966

>>17894947
Wrong.

>> No.17894970

>>17894946
>crabs sideways

Enjoy the dick buffet.

>> No.17894973

>>17894869
Oh ho ho
You know what we say about when pigs fly...

>> No.17894975

>>17894959
Based, love me some obscure economic whitepapers.

>> No.17894977

What *is* money?

>> No.17894979
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>>17894869
There's no meat available in any store nearby, once corona is over i'm going to eat a suckling pig

>> No.17894985

>>17894977
a miserable pile of secrets

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>>17894936
I think it is this one.
$1.50 a month, seriously!
Cunts.

>> No.17894993

>>17894904
If it /ever/ goes in the money, you instantly make your money back, I think. The only options that would result in a loss no matter what are those that never even get close to in the money, if my understanding is correct. I suppose it depends on how much you spent to buy the option, but you should be fine.

>> No.17894995

>>17894959
>the fed pops bubbles
>the fed creates bubbles
>the fed fucks everyone both ways

First by deflation, then by inflation something something

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>>17894970
s&p futures -3 suck my thousand dollar gains bitch

>> No.17895004

>>17894977
A medium of exchange and a store of value. Fiat checks only one of those criteria.

>> No.17895006

>>17894878
Could be. Would be very strange. A depression with free money would inflate the price of pussy which would be terrible.

What happens though if the financial institutions don’t break down, and even DB remains solvent?

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>>17894924
hint: YOURE IN ONE

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>>17894906
UNSPEAKABLY based

>> No.17895012

>>17894219
What if I'm 90% puts

>> No.17895013

>>17894977
A necessary evil in growing societies.

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>>17895000
>he thinks he can sell

>> No.17895027

When do the stock brokers start jumping out windows?

>> No.17895028

Asia is back online

>> No.17895032

>>17894350
> Everyone is going back to work
Lolwut? We're shutting down as of tonight for 2 weeks, these are just beginning not ending.

>> No.17895036

>>17894990
LOL..companies pay a lot of money to get that market data feeds.

>> No.17895037

>>17894924
Not much, what’s a happenin’ with you?

>> No.17895045

>>17894869
Where's the futures on brap hogs?

>> No.17895055

>>17894956
What about Jim the based booyah boomer?

>> No.17895059

>ASX down 3.7% after pumping yesterday

Crab market everywhere. The Australians are literally 12 hours ahead of our cycle

>> No.17895064

>>17895027
Soon hopefully

>> No.17895070

>>17894219
Oh hi there

>> No.17895072

>>17894878
Imagine if the futere wasn't cyberpunk, but art deco punk. Fuck yeah, I want that.

>> No.17895074
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Based McAlvany out with a new vid https://youtu.be/XVZ4RlcYMjY

>> No.17895084

>>17895059
>Nips are losing steam
Its ogre.

>> No.17895086

>>17895000
Sell to who ? lollll

>> No.17895091

These overnights plunges have really slowed down. This may be the last time puts are free money.

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how do i know if an option is a good buy or not? like, how would i predict what the option's price would be at some point in the future?

>> No.17895102

>>17895086
Had no problems selling on monday friend

>> No.17895106

>>17895091
>These overnights plunges have really slowed down

bro they're flirting with the limit how much more of a plunge do you need?

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>>17894191
Trump just secured re-election with the neetbux

>> No.17895114

>>17895072
Well then buy puts you niggers.

>> No.17895115

>>17895091
I sure hope there's one more tomorrow, I have a lot more puts than calls up right now

>> No.17895121

>>17895099
Fuck me too bro. I'm struggling. And why is it that it's always unprofitable to hold the contract longer?

>> No.17895123

>>17895055
He’s always right !

>> No.17895124

>>17895091
The puts aren't even free money because all the talk about bailouts is making boomers optimistic. Fucking Christ on a crutch just let businesses fail again, some people can buy up the company and make one that isn't shit.
Corporate welfare was a fucking mistake.

>> No.17895130

>>17894458
I just got high, told my fiancee everything in this article and then read the article affirming everything I said.
Crazy.

>> No.17895136

>>17894219
80% 3x inverse ETF gang

>> No.17895139

>>17895106
I mean, you can probably still make money, but you'll actually have to fire up a few neurons.

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>>17895036
>LOL..companies pay a lot of money to get that market data feeds.

Maybe, but I'm just me with my little stack of hard earned wagie money.

This just seems like clown world. $1.50 for options quotes.

>> No.17895143

>>17895072
I think the technical term is "dieselpunk"

>> No.17895165

What happens when de Blasio issues a 'shelter in place' for NYC? Another 13% drop?

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>> No.17895174

>>17895142
not everything in this world is free you entitled fuck

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>the goyim stopped buying the dip and started shorting
>begin the reaccumulation

>> No.17895189

>>17895165
No drop. This will be good news

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>>17895099
>>17895121
I sure hope you two have PhDs in Math $400k/yr starting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%E2%80%93Scholes_model

>> No.17895193

>>17895174
If it makes you feel better I'm not even sure how to access the data now. So entitled and stupid, thank you very much!

>> No.17895195

>>17895130
lmao

>>17894516
yeah, this shit is making be feel young again

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NO NO NO MEME NUMBERS ARE LESS RED NOW

>> No.17895207

>>17895124
We're gonna end up with a Japanese style zombie economy at this rate.

>> No.17895210

>>17895121
check that fukkin theta

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>>17895193
Nevermind it showed up now!

Before it said frozen data and confused me.

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This is a bat market now, on a random day of the week it can kill either bulls or bears with equal indifference.

>> No.17895217

>>17894756
https://seekingalpha.com/article/134505-expect-the-treasury-bubble-to-continue-to-inflate

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>>17895121
Because someone who wants to buy that option will want to buy the one that gives me the most time to react. So if you have a 200 put expiring this friday, it has way less time to hold and act versus a 200 put expiring a month from now.
Buy your puts further out if you want to make better money. They'll decay much slower and give you many more chances to be in the green. They're also priced cheaper usually.

>> No.17895227

>>17895207
I live in Japan, that is a very bad idea.

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>>17895199

>> No.17895236

>>17895037
GOT EM!

>> No.17895241

>>17895216
What’s with the bat soup meme
How was it born
I’m clueless

>> No.17895244

>>17895227
how are things going over there

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>>17895199
Can we all just take a moment to recognize that we are one of the most sophisticated finance discussion forums on the internet, and perhaps even the world? And we make posts like this and it's as good as or better than posts on inferior sites not to be named?

God I'm so happy to be here with you all right now.

>> No.17895248

>>17895165
priced the fuck in
either:
1. things will get better with treatment or
2. things will progress much slower than you think

either way, puts are no longer risk-free

shorting the fucking VIX, on the other hand, is alpha money move

>> No.17895251

>>17895216
Holy shit. Coined on /biz/ tyou heard it here.

>> No.17895254

>>17895241
Coronavirus happened because someone ate a bat soup.

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17895260

>Trump with republicans considers $1k payout to people during the Corona shit
>Bernie has to instantly one up it and say the payout has to be $2k

This fucking guy. Meanwhile he's literally being slaughtered by Biden

>> No.17895267

>>17895241
thats how the virus started. it came from chinks eating bat soup (from the bats). who knows if thats the real reason though... possible bioweapon

>> No.17895271

>>17895241
Coronaviruses like MERS/SARS/Covid are batborne disease.

Chinks love eating batsoup and other exotic animals. The virus originated from a wet market, which is where chinks sell their exotic meats.

I'm not racist but the Chinese are disgusting.

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>>17895246
are we really?

>> No.17895287

>>17895271
China is a country. Chinese is not a race.

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>>17894924
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17895291

>>17895271
MERS is carried by camels.

>> No.17895293

>>17895244
The government is lying about the numbers probably. Everyone is pretending it is normal, but schools are closed in most places. More face masks and hand sanitizer, millions still using the subways and trains.

>> No.17895295

>>17894236
Lmfao nice

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>>17895271
>I'm not racist
Give it time.

>> No.17895303

>>17895285
solid advice though

>> No.17895308

>>17895285
that was five days before CNN picked up the "might be a depression for real" line

>> No.17895315

Working at Fidelity is wild, I feel like there is so much insider information just being thrown around.

shame im a code monkey and don't know what an option is so I cant take advantage of it,

>> No.17895318

>>17894236
Right now I'm a Can't Cashout Coral with my shitty SPXU/SQQQ

>> No.17895321

>>17895287
You're right. The dominant ethnic group in China is Han.

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>>17895260
And he's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy behind the curve on that one, too.
https://twitter.com/RepJoeKennedy/status/1239920721792565250?s=20

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>>17895285
Of course we are, you can't see the sophistication of that post? Rice is sold out now and has been since the 14th. That was a prescient warning.

>> No.17895331

>>17894895
Doesn't matter what the feds do unless that's make a fucking vaccine

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>>17895315
tell us more anon, whats the scoop

>> No.17895332

>>17895251
underrated

>> No.17895338

>>17895219
What movie is this webm from?

>> No.17895353

>>17895322
what will this relieve

>> No.17895354

Sqqq gonna pop tomorrow it's up 10% after hours

>> No.17895359

>>17895315
I work with the daughter of Vanguard's CFO, but she's a brainlet so he doesn't bother to tell her anything I could actually use to trade. Oh well.

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>>17895285
two weeks behind Italy

>> No.17895366

>he didn't buy tourism and airline industry cheapies while waiting for the multi-trillion dollar aid package getting signed on Friday
heh

>> No.17895368

Short-term Treasury yields have dropped to 0.12, 0.18, 0.19 while we've seen a semi-recovery in long-term Treasury yields. What does this mean?

>> No.17895379

>>17895353
unironically consumer demand and confidence

>> No.17895380

>>17894977
Now ur doin the big think

>> No.17895385

>>17895331
Vaccine is already in development. ETA of 1-1.5 years, according to the guy who's in charge of making it.

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17895398

>get corona virus
>smoke weed
>it vanishes
Guys, I found the cure

>> No.17895401

>>17894977
green paper

>> No.17895400

>>17895368
It means Buy Blackwings

>> No.17895403

>>17895353
dunno lul

>> No.17895411
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>>17895315
What have they been saying? even if you don't WE DO. Spill the beans anon.

>> No.17895412

>>17895359
1.Marry the daughter
2.Profit

>> No.17895413

>>17895330
Theres some sort of merger coming in, idk Im a retard when it comes to finance.
>>17895359
Ahh, fuck vanguard.

>> No.17895414

>>17894748
I've got some great news for you, anon

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>>17895366
Fuck that, I'll just buy some way out of market calls on the same during tomorrow's crash and sell them on the rumor on Thursday. Easy +50%.

I'm really starting to think that maybe owning stocks is for plebs and warren.

>> No.17895418

>>17895368
dollar = new venezueladollar

>> No.17895419

>>17895385
vaccine will come out MUCH faster
they do so many trials because they are afraid it will have negative effects
but they are already familiar with other coronaviruses, so the risk is lower

>> No.17895421

>>17895361

I live in MD looks like I'm fucked

>> No.17895424

>>17895074
pretty interesting.

thanks anon

>> No.17895426

>>17894191
>people are predicting a 20% unemployment rate
When was the last time unemployment was this high? And a lot of these people are gonna end up permanently unemployed with automation taking over this service based garbage fire of an economy.

>> No.17895427

>>17895207
That's cool with me. Can trade that type of thing quit nicely.

>> No.17895429

>>17895338
I think that's actually one of the Oats Studios videos on Youtube. River King, or something like that.

>> No.17895435

>bored
>want to smoke pot
>smokers are at a higher risk

fuck edibles give me anxiety i had to puke the last one i had

>> No.17895437

>>17895353
It will let quarantined wagies pay their rent and bills and for a foodcuck to bring them McDonald's.

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>>17895426
The Great Depression lmao

>> No.17895447

>>17895338
Its a cool short from Oats Studio called Firebase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm0V24IEHao
Lots of skinwalker webms have been made from it for /k/.

>> No.17895448

>>17895368
high short term demand, why have higher yields when people are buying anyway

>> No.17895451

>>17895413
JUST NAME THE TWO COMPANIES NIGGER

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Fresh OC for my /smg/ frens

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>>17895412
I want to but she's dating some manlet who's in way better shape than me so I can't mog him properly. I started lifting but we're also both transferring in a few months so the odds of her breaking up with him and me getting with her are slim, especially if it immediately goes long distance relationship.

I fucked up by not starting lifting years ago. Don't make my mistake. Start lifting now.

>> No.17895461

>>17895419
Fauci is the one working on it, and he seems quite adamant on going through the procedures by the book. You're literally going to have to fire the guy and hire someone else to have that vaccine being injected into people before the proper testing is done.

>> No.17895462

Nevada just shut down all "non-essential" businesses

>>17895419
that's not how vaccine development works
12 to 18 months is fast as balls for development, and if Covid-19 is as genetically close to SARS as hinted, they'll probably never develop a successful vaccine

>> No.17895464

>>17895444
LMFAO OH MY GOD

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/nov/30/britains-economy-what-happened-japan

>> No.17895472

>>17894629
Where do you find this info?

>> No.17895475

>>17895435
Habitual smokers are at higher risk, for obvious reasons. I seriously doubt smoking a bowl would do anything.

>> No.17895478

>>17895426
Soon there will be no labor, the value of currency will be determined entirely by aesthetics and only prime numbered bills will be printed

>> No.17895490

>>17895285
You won't find better. All stock forums are trash. /smg/ has the benefit of being self aware in its sillyness.

>> No.17895493

>>17895472
https://markets.cboe.com/us/options/market_statistics/daily/

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17895504

>>17895426
Is there some sort of etf that inversely tracks unemployment? We should buy calls on anything like that as soon as possible.

>> No.17895508

New:
>>17895505
>>17895505
>>17895505
>>17895505

>> No.17895511

>>17895379
20% of households already reporting layoffs or hours cut due to COVID-19. All financial experts predicting a recession. All health experts predicting at least 1,000,000 dead Americans.

Demand? Confidence? That shit isn't coming back for a long time.

>> No.17895512

>>17895287
>Chinese is not a race.
It is

>> No.17895513

>>17895478
>capital without labor
W-what happens to the working class in this economy?

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>>17895361

>> No.17895545

>>17895462
>Nevada just shut down all "non-essential" businesses
Nooooooo my whorehouses

>> No.17895558

>>17895493
Thanks

>> No.17895583

>>17895091
Maybe the calls will be less risky to buy and swing this time... But I guess you still get fucked by IV falling

>> No.17895593

>>17895513
Some will be employed to do various meaningless and/or humiliating tasks by the rich for amusement. The rest will be hunted like beasts.

>> No.17895606

>>17894191
>a second Great Depression is coming
>in the age of nuclear and bioweapons/ drone warfare and oncoming ecological disaster
Turns out hubris and psycotic hoarding of wealth was the Great Filter.

>> No.17895691

>>17894518
now they just need to cut off their internet and the world will be safe.

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>>17895121
It's called "Theta decay" or "Time decay." The Theta value in your options determine how fast it will depreciate.

>> No.17895772

>>17895121
Its not that it's unprofitable but the extrinsic value of your option drops to zero at the expiration date. It doesn't prevent you from making a profit, but it eats into your profits and effectively costs you money every day you old the option.

>> No.17895797

How do I make money?

>> No.17895809

>>17895797
Buy the options that make money and not the ones that don't

>> No.17895819

>>17895419
94% of vaccine trials end in failure. Still no vaccine for SARS. You are delusional

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>>17895461
i wish there was a market for vaccine release date

>> No.17895862

>>17895809
Buy what?

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SHORT THE VIX COME ON GUYS FREE MONEY

i want biz bros to be rich bros otherwise what is the point

stop shorting DIS and AAL like a bunch of betas

>> No.17896975

>>17894260
it really is. they pay like 50 cents per share dividend you will practically double your money back after a year in just dividends assuming their stock only goes down

>> No.17897180

>>17895919
lol, vix is going higher. this has only just begun. you think all those neet bux are going to wallstreet? people are going to donate their extra yang to bernie sanders and he's going to win the nomination with the extra money.