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i was gonne make one
o well

>>17873630

Not at all. Are you kidding? You're right on the edge already.

You know you don't have to hold options until expiration, right?

First for Dead Cat Bounce Tuesday

Oh God I am COOFING hard. This might be it.
Who is going to inherit my 1 stonk?

FUCKING

>>17873617
BASED EDITION

but i think its about time to take hits from the bong and then head to bed

Bottom

From: >>17873544
Imagine thinking tomorrow will close out +5 green.

>>17873402
>>17873319
>>17873076
>>17872777

>>17873658
if you eat a chinese person you gain their antibodies

>>17873663
BIBLICAL

Green tomorrow
I re-purchase my 5/15 200 SPY put (if I can get it for around ~700-800) and SQQQ shares
Sell next day on red
That's my plan boys.

>>17873674
But I don't know any chinese or japanese.
I live in a pure white country. Sorry

THAT FUCKING FEE WHEN WTRH BROUGHT BACK ALL MY EARNING I LOST THE LAST FEW WEEKS

NIGGA JUST NEEDS TO HOLD FOR A FEW MINUTES AT OPENING

>>17873691
Stop giving away my plan

>>17873679

WHAT STRIKE AND DATE FOR SPY SHOULD I GET?

>>17873721
222p for 3/20

>>17873671
Wait a minute
Nobody told me the Fed had one last ultimate technique
Article 13.3......Jerome, don't do it!

>>17873721
100 3/20

>>17873721
I dunno. I am going to get May puts SPY 200

>>17873721
Far out and cheap

>>17873721
None.

>me on the right, S&P 500 on the left

Oops!
didn't realize there was a new thread

>>17873305
oh they have orders that you can have set that last during premarket, market, aftermarket, and you can leave them there for days.

With schwab, if I have 50 shares to sell, and I set a limit order to sell 50 premarket, then the order expires as soon as premarket is over. If I try to set an order to sell during market hours while the premarket order exists, I get an error saying I don't have enough shares, because that premarket order is there. Then I have to cancel that order and set a new one if I want to set an afterhours order, and that order expires when afterhours is over, so then i have to set a new one to sell premarket.

Make sense?

Also the options layout sucks, and the price doesn't change afterhours to reflect afterhours moves.

>>17873312
this is good to know

>>17873366

>>17873726
kek

REMINDER:
>CHINA SURGING, OPENING UP FACTORIES (APPLE STORES STILL OPEN, TRAFFIC GOING BACK TO NORMAL)
>SOUTH KOREA HAS IT COMPLETELY CONTAINED
>JAPAN VERY LOW RATE, VERY HEALTHY, STRONG
>ITALY IS NEAR THE PEAK, WILL FINALLY RETURN TO NORMAL IN TWO WEEKS
>US QUARANTINE SHORT-LIVED, THINGS WILL BE BACK TO NORMAL IN TWO WEEKS
>STOCK MARKET FUTURES SURGING
You'd be a MOTLEY FOOL to not go all in on the bottom now. It's only up from here, bvllchads.

>>17873739
?????

>>17873674
I'd rather die desu

>>17873744
based

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/direxion-announces-reverse-splits-three-205000892.html


GUSHfags about to get rekt

>>17873694
Argentina?

>>17873755
Fuck off retard

>>17873617
MARKET RALLY TOMORROW

>>17873755
This isn't the bottom bulltard

Why are people even selling put options? Isn't it basically a near-guaranteed loss right now?

New here
When do I buy the dip

>17872492 (OP) #
You're going to be absolutely rekt in this market with that small amount of money and no experience. I think you would do best by simply keeping cash on hand.

If you decide not to listen to my advice, at the very minimum, read all of Investopedia before you buy a single stock.

Good luck, faggot.

>>17873739
We've barely wiped out one year of unbelievable pumping this shit is nowhere near the bottom

>>17873810

When the swings stop.

Brethren, in these troubling times, let us turn unto the Lord and Our Lady, that we may be delivered from our sins and the sorrows of this world.

Stella caeli exstirpavit quae lactavit Dominum
Mortis pestem quam plantavit primus parens hominum.
Ipsa stella nunc dignetur sidera compescere,
Quorum bella plebem caedunt dirae mortis ulcere.

O gloriosa stella maris, a peste succurre nobis:
Audi nos, nam te filius nihil negans honorat.
Salva nos, Jesu! Pro quibus virgo mater te orat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_PEevkX58g

>>17873797
Russell-chan is so unloved. :(

>>17873810
a bit now, a bit later

>>17873810
it hasn't been in stock since at least friday when the grocery buying frenzy began

>>17873747
yeah but schwab doesn't crash every time there's more than two million trades in a day.

>>17873744
Never change bobo, never change.

>>17873797
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>17873755
stop spamming, china is kill, as well is the rest of the world, buy puts in anything and get rich

>>17873797
Quid rei est? This is what my Schwab dashboard says.

>>17873813
this>>17873813
i have spy 165 and 190 puts, and i now they'll both be in the money. my only regret is not buying more at two weeks ago.

Another great day for the bear

anyone buying puts on IWM

>>17873852
Actually, I guess 2,517 would be an increase over today's close...

>>17873852
schwab is a 50 billion dollar company, more reliable than "investing".com lmao

>>17873852
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures

Any danger to holding inverse ETF’s like SQQQ until the shitstorm in May?

>>17873857

Come on. Are you fucking serious? SPY 165?

>have had a coof since like Feb 25
>at first it was bad, like coughing up a bunch of shit, now its just a persistent dry coof
>just though it was my asthma flaring up
>been going to the office, grocery store, gym, bars, etc, as per usual
>just took my temp, fever of 100
>going to doc tomorrow, I'll see if I get tested

If there's a sudden large number of corona-chan cases in Arizona in the next couple of weeks, it was because of me

>>17873859
Seriously.. how are bulls not necking themselves in preparation for tomorrow?

>>17873859
hell yeah bear brother

>>17873797

>>17873891
I love every day, especially a day to buy more things on the cheap

>>17873882
dont hold 3X etfs, just dont

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ME WANT MARKET OPEN NOW

>>17873859

>>17873691
Surely money cant be made this easily? Why is the market so predictable

>>17873882
i think you 'll lose money due to re-balancing everyday, better deal to buy SQQQ calls I think

Kek elon is pumping market with his cure tweets

Same with australian cure story

I hold 1 single share of GUSH
What happens when they reverse split?

>>17873834
I actually slept through those insane days so I'm not too bothered I couldn't access it...
Wasn't it because Leap Year fucked them up, and then they rushed out a fix that also fucked them up? Or something? Or is it actually due to volume?

>>17873824
I'm looking forward to shorting the shit out of the russell smallcaps on tomorrow's bounce. I think I'm stuck riding almost all of my longs to the bottom, so I need to hedge them out, this damage is killer

>>17873877
I wish you were correct, my man. But schwab's interface is the shittiest fuckiest lowdown worstiest and I need to start shopping around.

>>17873891
Cause bulls are inferior.

If stocks are going up tomorrow, should I sell all my mutual fund shares, in order to time the market and lock in fat green stacks of cash? I've been telling myself I don't need to spend time worrying about it, but the itch to trade is growing stronger...

I don't pay attention to the greeks. Who gives a FUCK about Isosceles valubility. SPY PUTS PRINT MONEY BAYBAY

>>17873905
That’s what I figured. Will try to sell as soon as I’m up. Should have sold end day yesterday probably.

>>17873885
how do i buy arizona puts lmao?

>>17873918
You fool! You'll break the market

>>17873877
No, it was my fault for not reading closely enough. The -6.22% on the S&P futures (e.g.) is clearly not -6.22% from the S&P500 closing value. It's probably relative to the last futures closing prices
>>17873873

>>17873859
what the hell are you talking about its fucking NIGHT you dumb bear
this is the end for you

>>17873905
Why is this exactly?
>>17873913
Not too familiar with options trading yet unfortunately. Don’t feel confident enough, but might put in a little money I’m willing to lose to see what happens.

Dead cat bounces are the gayest shit. Stop delaying the inevitable.

No matter how much money you make anime girls will never be real. Remember that.

>>17873909
>china fears and mocks the bear because of a meme
>80.000 cases later the greatest crash since 2008
They knew what will happen.

>>17873757
I don't know what the fuck you are looking at

>>17873755
China is slightly crabbing under fucking +1.0
And now it appears to be dipping after the lunch break.
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you new?
God I fucking hate the amount of over confident newfag bulls in this market right now.

>>17873966
>VR/Holograms indistinguishable from irl
>fleshlights
what's impossible here?

>>17873919
no, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that robinhood only has 900 employees, whereas the accounting team at at schwab has over 1,000 software engineers. not to mention schwab has legacy systems that run on IBM mainframes so they can just purchase more transactions to increase processing pwoer, whereas robinhood likely runs their entire platform on propietary x86 servers. seriously use Schwab, Fidelity, Interactive Brokers, E-Trade. Since they're already free, just use a real broker.

>>17873859
BULLS NEVER LEARN

>limit up denying me massive gains just long enough for dump

>>17873744
why couldn't bully ever accept his awesome spider son ;_;

>>17873918
they will give you 1/10th of the value of 1 share after split

>>17873952
whomst is your broker? It's easier to enable options trading on some brokers than others

Looking

Italy treatment is kaletra + chloroquine. But korea didnt use both at once and warned against....

>>17873859

It's Big Bear Season.

>>17873905
This. I learned my lesson.

>>17874006
Using my banks. I don’t even have the option of options yet. Waiting for my TFSA (im Canadian) trading account to be approved which will have options.

Lombardy treatmentguide

>>17873952
>Why is this exactly?
meant for daytrading or hedging your other holdings

>>17873918
They just pay you back in cash.

>>17874011
What happened

>>17874016
how much longer will that take? time of the essence here.

>>17873996
>>17873918
1/40th

>>17873912
>Why is the market so predictable
Massive gov interference

>>17874007
why am all these drug take for lupus... also HIV drugs .... X_X ?

>>17874007
Italy's current numbers are 20k+ infected
2 k recovered 2 k dead.
Worst k/d ratio in the world.
Don't trust the spaghettis

I think its really cute the markets want to be green tomorrow for st pattys day but the bogs will not allow this

I dont get it. How do bears make money? Are they thieves?

>>17874051
Bulls eat grass, bears eat meat.

>>17873617
why did PEP drop so much more than KO today? PEP seems way more diversified to do well through this crisis (look at all the snack brands they own). or is PEP still overvalued?

>>17874051
I can explain.
Shorting stocks

Dollar-cost averaging into SNSS. Re-investing dividends to fully take advantage of compound growth. This is how true wealth is built over time.

>>17874011
I bought a bunch of SQQQ, DRIP, and other 3x shit. Crab makes them worthless. Volatility fucks them up completely by causing them to swing wildly away from their true value, then they get adjusted and you are fucked. Fuck Direxion.

>>17874037
english?

pic is of me, an intellectual, buying puts for the inevitable 10k dow

>>17874051
Yes - the term bear is based off of yogi bear and how he steals picnic baskets

>>17874017
Korean experts recommend not combining the two treatments.

>>17874038
yeah sure dude trust the chinese government instead...

>>17874022
That isn't nearly as exciting as I hoped it would be.

>>17874089
Lost my shit thanks anon

It appears the Hang Seng is slipping.

>>17873755
brother your options aren't going to be in the money I'm sorry

>>17874130
Same with nikkei. Sell off before close

Question isnt ch!oroquine to be taken with zinc? why is zinc not mentioned alongside it?

>>17873617
I don't get this thread, is it a meme or just some autistic reddit shit?

t. Catholic

>>17874074
Shit that’s what I failed to sell yesterday. Am I gonna be ok if I sell today? Futures aren’t looking good. How do I get out of this without losing too much money.

>>17873797
Then biblical dump again on Wednesday.

>>17874031
See >>17874074

>>17874158
all Catholics are buying SPY puts right now, by fellow catholic...

Whats a good cv stock to buy?

>>17874169
absolutely this lmao, i'm holding my puts til expiration.

>Century Link
>No fees
>No shut offs
>No caps
Is this bullish?

>>17873835
the worst part is I used to be a perma bull, because in the long run we go up

but Fourier Analysis open my eyes to the s-domain, and life was never the same after that

>>17873919
Robinhood is great for everything besides its price charts

it has shit charts, fixed unmoveable time frames, and no fucking y-axis labels

just use tradingview free in a separate tab and you'll be golden

rh is far from the only broker to have outages, but if being off the market for 2 hours is the difference between you losing it all and getting a lambo, you probably had too much risk in your strategy to survive long term anyways...

>>17873927
>he doesnt check the Speed, Zomma, Color, or Ultima of every option before he buys
its like you people dont even know how to partial differential equations

>>17873993
because he had a far greater force inside than Mandy did, but he was unironically tempered by Chaos (ultimate waifu Eris, the goddess who controls all, Queen of Entropy)

>MFW these markets and I started rewatching grim n mandy this weekend
watching the second Jeff episode, damn i wish my spider son made me truffles then hid in my bushes
>even if he forgot the white chocolate

>>17874169
Nah, we gonna dump again tomorrow, anon

>>17874158
Stop embarrassing us with your low-quality posts. Lurk moar to either find out or figure out how to bait better.
Also happy St. Patrick's Day, in case you were serious.

>>17874168
What did you buy specifically? If markets are green or even sideways, you will still probably see a 10-20% loss.

Why did PEP fall 11% today but KO only dropped 6%? Is KO really selling that much more soda and orange juice right now in the lockdowns?

If I put an order in to sell stocks before market opens, will they sell at the price they closed at yesterday immediately at opening bell?

>>17874198
Well i planned for that too. Split my cash into a portion in puts now, and ready to deploy again on Tuesday markets to load up if they pump up.

>>17874207
SQQQ SPXU

>>17874214
KO is probably one of the few recession/depression proof stocks. Its the most popular drink in the world. Some places people drink coke instead of water because their water is toxic. People would rather die than be without coke.

Evening thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5WkkObyH40

>>17874168
Just wait a couple of days until the futures go down further.

>>17874194
It means you need to start torrenting any anime, movies, and audiobooks you may want over the next year, just in case. Cracked games too if you're into that.

Not sure if anyone wants to recommend and youtube channels you should be downloading as well.

NoNonsenseForex gets shilled here a lot but I never got into it.

PRAYING FOR MARKETS TO BE GREEN TOMORROW SO I CAN BUY MORE SPY PUTS

Gentlemen I am out of day trades. If I buy a put at open tomorrow and the market tanks, the SEC is going to ban me for a while when I sell for profit.
Fuck you, SEC.

>>17874231
Yea, I got totally fucked on SQQQ. I only got like +15% on SPXU. What were your buy in prices?

>>17874238
gay as aids

>>17874235
>recession/depression proof stocks
It's not. It holds up a bit better than most but it's not a safe haven by any means. However it is high on the list of stonks you definitely want to long pretty quick when things start to turn around.

>>17874235
It may also have something to do with the unnecessary risk PEP just took on by buying rockstar as coke unveils Coke Energy. Also, isn't KO just the american business? I know Coke Europe trades under a different ticker.

>>17874259
Almost exactly what they Closed at.

>>17874263
ur mum is gay as aids

>>17874238

>>17874283
i wish, then i wouldn't exist...

>>17874214
PEP is more than beverages, its snackfood too

KO is pure drinks company (water, flavored waters, health drinks, teas, energy drinks, coffee stuff, but mostly liquids nonetheless)

>>17874195
fourchette analysis?
What's it good for?

picture extremely unrelated

>>17874294
but then you'd never know suffering, and that would truly be a tragedy.

WHAT THE FUCK IS A "PUT"?
THIS ISNT FUCKING GOLF
t. /sp/ is my main board

SPY 190 strike for may boys? Are we going back to pre 08 levels?

>>17874235
went out with my american wife to top up our supplies earlier and she insisted on getting a case of coke. i was like 'fuck it, we can drink water and tea, forget the bloody coke' but she wouldn't hear it. i dunno, maybe it's a comfort thing. coke will do fine.
>she's not fat
>i'm white

>>17874313
if you like asians you'd be all in on puts right now

>>17874323
i have spy 165, 190, and 215. they'll all be in the money,and this is far worse that 2008 btw.

>>17874322
if that were true, then you'd probably know that there's no such thing as a put in golf. Except for where you put the ball.

Have you heard of google?
Or try reading the OP, it's got some good resources like, again, google and investopedia.

>>17874276
Yea, its not going to be fun. Thats why I'm switching to 1x inverse ETFs sicne they don't decay like a mofo and follow the decline down without all the bullshit volatility. 3x ETFs are only for intraday or next day trades. Even if we keep going down, 3x ETFs will lose tons of value along the way from every day we crab.

Is this all the ultimate proof that deluxe wagecucking is a scam? All that degree + office job + mortgage + retirement savings = an empire of dirt.

Any leafbros familiar with wealthsimples systems? Are mobile app accounts seperate from website based accounts? Keeps asking for all my information again when I try to log in on the website

So if things get worse, is there anything that people should already have set up?
>>17874290
This webm makes me sad bro....

>>17874340
That is not me, and I have never been all in on anything, and I don't intend to.
Well I guess there was a time when I was all-in on USD, but even then I had a hedge of pokemon cards.

>>17874340
Best I can afford is 190 may exp because corona fucked my job. Heres to hoping we make some money off this shitshow

>>17874333
>keeps forever
>sweet treat when limited sugar intake
>helps people cope, mood booster
I have 48 cans left, I'm afraid it might not be enough. Hot coco is a good substitute though if its not too hot out.

>>17874216
No. Whatecer bjd ask is

>>17874344
wagecucking is just a way to get capital.

>>17874369
dude may 190 will absolutely be in the money

>>17874367
believe in yourself bro

>>17874386
how much capital is needed?

>>17874343
How do I get out without losing too much money. Do I sell and cut my losses tomorrow, or wait a day or two for market to go red again.

>>17874346
i think wealthsimple is dogshit for trading. Unless you plan to buy and hold

>>17874403
BTW I Ain’t fuckin with stocks no more just gonna buy some more guns

>>17874344
Or just invest more right now and wait a year for huge gains

Apple isnt going to be a hated brand a year from now because of a pandemic panic

>>17874394
enough to keep replenishing everytime you go to 0

>>17874173
What is cv?

>>17874195
Agreed about RH. It's just convenient. I was about to sign up for "You Invest" the Chase competitor to RH but I had to stop when I got to the part that said my investment wasn't insured and it was offered by a company that was an affiliate of Chase. That company's website is this: https://www.jpmorgan.com/securities

It's a shell for shady or bullshit investments. Ho boy, I bet my car loan is through this garbage company.

At least if RH goes to shit I get my money back up to $125k or whatever.

>>17874245
Why? Tf

rate the fox news pump 1 to 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAV7QkABExw

>>17874313
>no more staring at asian cuties (both saudi girls with extremely tight clothing , indians, and chinese/hongkong) at university this semester because virus
>i graduate this may
damn, I saved 3 non-stem classes for my last semester just for finding a college gf before gradgitating too

>fourchette analysis?
>What's it good for?
best for "long term" decisions with 1m charts if daytrading, but also fantastic for proper economic valuation when using 1d or 1w candles too

also not really right now, but when interest rates begin to be non-zero they are directly related to price and returns with a little help from Laplace

>>17874457
if you have TDA you can trade options on futures and they have no day trade limit if you have a cash account.

>>17873790
Splits/reverse splits don't effect value, smooth brain

>>17874403
Its tough to know. It might be ok to hold over one day for another red day, but you might see a 15% loss either way. If you want something that makes money on the way down I would suggest SH, its just inverse of SPY.

>>17874474
I will be marked as a pattern day trader with an account under 25,000 and they will suspend my account for 90 days. In the last 5 business days, I have executed three day trades. One more tomorrow, and b&

>>17874429
this

i'm thinking of going in on an index and just waiting for panic to settle

imo the fear has just spread quicker than it usually would and people are madly speculating

if it was true time for a recession shouldn't we see gold start to increase as the demand increases? instead it's falling, indicating that people are liquidating their precious into cash to put elsewhere, right?

>>17874421
then what other brokerage is recommended for leafs? Questrade?

>>17874494
It means people will be able to sell it at lower than the current $0.01 its worth.

>>17874389
I believe that I'm capable of making amazingly good decisions, and stunningly poor decisions, and that going all in on anything without steady income is likely to get you BTFO. Risk management is real.

>>17874403
I'm going to be buying those etf's tomorrow, or similar ones. But my portfolio is almost entirely longs. We could get a massive green dildo, but I don't think this is over, not by a longshot.

>>17874423
until society implodes and lawlessness reigns anew, you're not going to be able to trade a bullet for a measure of whiskey at the local saloon. You you may want to keep some good old fashioned USD on hand, especially to buy all these goddamned cheapies.

>>17874457
...that's JPMorgan, one of the Big 4 US banks... the company is currently known as JPMorgan Chase, I believe it was one of the many mergers that took place during the chaos of the financial crisis. Kind of like Bank of America Merrill Lynch

>>17874492
options have no daytrade limit on RH cash accounts either (idk about margin accounts, i never touch the stuff)

>>17874457
Coronavirus related stock.

Two scenarios for tomorrow
>market tanks more
>puts go up
>buy dirt cheap calls for KR and GOLD
>make gains
Or
>market gets POMPED
>sell calls
>buy puts in SPY and LYFT for dirt cheap
It feels good to be a bear rn

>>17874547
>no margin
You never short sell?
You're a day trader but you never short sell?

>>17874269
I think this is the real answer. Didn't know they just bought Rockstar who was already publicly traded right? They were a 0% dividend crazy growth stock and probably overvalued.

Yup.

>>17874311
But people are still eating snack foods in quarantine... They're not drinking as much soda which is more of a going out thing, in my mind.

>>17874343
Expense ratio for SH is still .89. 2X is .90, 3X is .95. Not really that much more for the leveraged ones.

>>17874524
>Questrade?
This. It's the least expensive (aside from wealthsimple) due to the per share fee structure. If you're trading large caps your fee will wind up closer to the minimum than the max most of the time. However, if you have a large portfolio and/or don't trade often such that a couple dollars extra in fee is negligible to you, using your bank's brokerage can be handy for quick cash transfers in and out. Overall I still think Questrade is the best choice for leafs.

Biblebro is back <3 also kneegorl...
>>17874565
Campbells has gotta be having their best quarter this decade no? Also agreed gonna get some PEPpers when this is over

>>17874549
It's not just shock. You guys are so retarded if you believe that. Even if people stopped panicking. That isn't going to turn the economy back on. But, you aren't going to listen to me, so, fine loose your money see if i care

>>17874524
i use Questrade. Also try avoid buying and selling ETFs, stocks, options listed in the US in a TFSA or Non Registered account. Hold them in a RRSP

There is a withholding tax applied to any USD shares held outside a RRSP

>>17874565
>>But people are still eating snack foods in quarantine... They're not drinking as much soda which is more of a going out thing, in my mind.
KO has much more than just Pop, basically every single beverage in a store is owned by one of the big 3 (Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Prepper)
Coke and Pepsi both have their own brands of milk for fuck's sake

but drink venders are better at resupplying, and pop also has a much longer shelf life than most potato chips

>>17874597
yes, but bedtime now (should have been over 2 hours ago)

>>17874617
>>17874570
I was thinking about going to Interactive Brokers (IB) instead of questrade.
I'm tired of the high commisions, I was tempted to go wealth simple for TFSA because cheap buy and hold, but questrade seemed better but shit, still expensive

>>17874549
Buy Office Depot stock (ODP). Since everyone is working from home now, they need to panic buy office equipment to telework. And what company has better delivery logistics and same-day pickup orders than Office Depot?

>>17874492
Thanks for the tip. How long to get money in and out of the account? What kills me about RH is moving money into it takes forever.

>>17874528
Yeah it's JPMorgan. Meaning they're too big to fail?

>>17874528
>>17874403
I'm also going further into SQQQ right now. If we get a green dildo I buy more.

>>17874549
Bought into ABBV right when it was used to treat some old lady's CV. It went up maybe 9% in a week then has been shitting itself with the rest of the market (now down 6%). People are buying grocery store or paper stocks, mostly. They're staying about even while everything else is shitting the bed. Seems too late to get on board to me.

>>17874560
You really think KR can go up any more? Seems late to get on board (see one reply above).

>>17874654
>still expensive
the eternal leaf suffering. I know. I am hoping at least one real brokerage in Canada follows the states and goes no-fee soonish. Perhaps if Schwab/TDA report they're doing great under the new model in future it will coax them in the good direction.

>tfw sick
Pray for me /smg/

>>17874073
Anon I....

>>17874683
They are considered too big to fail, and I wound not regard them as a shell company. Though if we hit negative rates, times are going to get tough for all banks.

>>17874612
Definitely not going to listen to someone who misread the post they replied to, and didn’t look at the post chain they were replying to.

That was a real sight to see last night

Just a reminder, stonks only go down.

>>17874683
KR was up 300% today and after hours it's still up over 200%
I set it to automatically sell when it spikes at over 300 percent again.

Interest Rates at zero: cash is trash. Finna take out a big dick loan and trade that shit to a mill. Catch you later faggots.

>>17874737
i cannot wait till you inevitably get blown up in the reversal because you want so much attention for making obvious calls in a downtrend

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc

How likely is an Airline bailout due?

>>17874775
100%

>>17874737
Also, if you're not short Netflix, I really don't know what to tell you. Bought 15 contracts at opening bell.

>>17874775
Not very anytime soon, it'd be retarded to bail out airports when no one is going to be flying anyway.

>>17874775
I don't think it's likely to happen unless Corona is still going strong in to summer. Bailout right now is premature and risks dumping all that money in their direction only for the thing to clear up and they recover on their own without help.

>>17874425
He's right you know. Infinite spending makes no sense in the slightest.

>>17874775
Its already been guaranteed

>>17874773
Oh man that's some cope, is that why you have losses, you avoid the obvious trades?

>>17874683
TDA had apple pay and shit was cleared same day

>>17874811
They said 60B injection into airlines

>>17874793
Well sorry I dont get how puts works and only buy stocks.. :(

>>17874737
RECOMMEND ME SOME CHEAP PUTS AHHHHHHH I ONLY HAVE $800

>>17874813
(You)

Do people think KHC is going bankrupt or something? This seems like THE time for them to finally stop being so mediocre. Do I need to go to the store and see how much easymac and singles they’ve got?

They may not be Campbell’s but they should be selling stuff that people are going to keep in their pantries and then throw away in many years when they expire.

>>17874773
Shhhhh
Don’t give that faggot the attention he craves... it all returns to nothing in the chop

>>17874809
Do you really think anyone thinks you’re NOT the OP?

You also made the subject too long and didn’t repeat it in the body, which means I have to use too much effort to read it, and won’t. You should probably delete it, fix that, and start over

>>17874843
If you want cheap calls you're going to have to wait for a POMP, Dow is down 12% which is going to make puts super expensive

>>17874793
>everyone will be quarantined
>all they can do is watch Netflix
Anon, I...

>>17874853
KHC isn't going bankrupt.

>>17874862
I assume we'll have green candles at open tomorrow followed by inevitable badnews/nofloor selling by panicked boomers exiting.

>>17874853
KHC time is now

>>17874528
>I'm going to be buying those etf's tomorrow, or similar ones. But my portfolio is almost entirely longs. We could get a massive green dildo, but I don't think this is over, not by a longshot.
I’m extremely confident that it isn’t over, but I keep reading about how holding inverse ETF’s is bad, and how I can lose money even if markets keep going down. I’m slightly confused.

>>17874683
>I'm also going further into SQQQ right now. If we get a green dildo I buy more.
That was also my idea originally. As stated above I’m still kind of confused about inverse ETF’s. Are planning on holding for a bit for market to continue it’s downward trend?

I cant believe people arent going outside, how is my bowling company going to go up when there is no costumers?

>>17874853
Forgot about KHC, how much mac and cheese has flown off the shelves this week? Classico pasta sacue, a lot of stuff. I really need to see some data on retail spending :o
>>17874891
oh no

>>17874891
the time for rolling and pins has passed

>>17874875
I’m not asking I’m that, I’m asking if that’s why it just got gobsmacked into the shitter.

But I hadn’t really looked at the rest of the market. Holy shit.
Pfizer, Merck, McDonald’s, Christ so many GOOD stocks getting absolutely BTFO to 52-week lows. I mean, I knew the market was getting crushed but this is too much! This is too tempting!

Pfe at a 5% yield, mrk and MCD with 3+%... I need to figure out who’s got too much international exposure. Lilly is resisting the selloff this strongly for a reason.

>>17873797
>down monday
>up tuesday
>down wednesday and thursday
>up friday
just like Cramer said last week

>>17874876
Usually what happens, highest volume trading has been from 9:30 to 10 ET so far.

>>17873960
Post the uncensored version

>>17874873
> Because those people don't already watch Netflix
> Because It's 2015 and Netflix is the only name in streaming
> Because 80x earnings in a recession is going to hold up
Anon....I..

>>17874130
Crab

>>17874891
In VERY unhappy that I made the mistake of buying MORE bowlingball. It’s literally unsellable. You gotta fiddle with the levers, break the walls, make the machine start buying!

>>17874900
Please let me know if you figure something out!
I don’t have the masks to do proper boots on the ground research right now. I guess I could just start doing phone calls.

>>17874928
>>17874876
I think trump is supposed to talk about an hour into the open. Think he’s going to try to take credit for the counter rally kekkkkk

>>17874911
his comentary during the morning dump was hilarious, where can I long cramers boomerisms?

>>17874942
You're courting death.

>>17874950
Oh boy I haven’t listened yet!

Please send some more good youtube linkies with el erian stuff or Cramer or even good lovecraft audiobooks!!

>comfy NE(E)Ting at home
>make money with trading
>make money with software and apps
>world around you goes kaput
can't get comfier than that!

I am wondering whether I should buy some Inverse index ETF for short term profit or start buying some oil ETF for longer term profit (as I don't think oil price can drop much further than it currently is even if situation continues worsen). Or maybe simply both?

>>17874955
crabs never die

https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/tree/master/csse_covid_19_data/csse_covid_19_daily_reports

good data for those who are interested

>>17874494
lmao this cope

come back when you've been through a few, kid

>>17874965
what software / apps?
I am a swe that got laid off last month.

>>17874947
I'm not going into a grocery store for months, my buddy has paid me for letting him stay with 700+ bucks of groceries. We have around a bunch of n95s and two full respirators (one with facemask) but we're not leaving the house. Well I still have to go into work 3 days a week, skeleton crew so the animals don't starve.
Not sure at all what to do about bowling ball. I underestimated this hard from the beginning. Optimistic for... late summer?

>>17874038
>>17874007

>>17874989
>Italy joins the axis
>3rd time in the row

>>17874966
if oil continues to drop deeper, we would have bigger problems imo.

>>17874984
getting into app development should be easier if you don't have connections already, look at what's on demand these days. albeit it being a saturated market, you can still make your bucks with good idea execution and advertising. hope it gets better, good luck!

Not sure if people have already given their two cents but what are your thoughts on PG during this time of crisis? The ended the last financial year with 11million total cash against their 10mil AP which sounds pretty solid all things considered. Also their total assets double their total liabilities, I think they could be a solid boom in the next few weeks after things settle

What apps / sites a are UK anons using for buying stocks? I’ve only been in crypto but want to get familiar with how to buy some stocks so I can pick up some cheapies

STOP
LIMITING
UP
FJDNSOALFNJDSLKAFJLSA

>>17874697
/MOURN

>>17874938
I kind of wish you'd adopt a trip so I could filter you. It's not even because of the content of your posts, you're just annoying.

What does it mean if I am buying an American index leveraged ETF outside American market with a non-overlapping trading hours?

>>17874989
Corona is punishment for consorting with the demon spawn people known as Chinese.

>>17874974
>https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/tree/master/csse_covid_19_data/csse_covid_19_daily_reports

Is there anywhere that graphs the changes? I want to see how closely we're following the log trend, im betting there might be a relationship between spy movement and the virus spread with the oil war priced in

>robinhood branded me as a day trader today
Why must i be punished for my success?

>>17875022
PG is definite buy if you can get it low enough.

>>17874988
>>17874947
>Not sure at all what to do about bowling ball
youre trapped in the web, remove your sell limit orders immediately if you want your money back

>>17875071
what does that mean for you?

anybody else throw up and get the shits from stress?

>>17875071
it's only a punishment if your account is small, over 25k and it has no impact

>>17875039
Do you know what an ETF is?

>>17875022
needs to go lower

>>17875062

>>17875084
I've just had the best night of sleep in two months.

>>17875081
I DID >:(

>>17875095
Korea are gods chosen people

If fed pumping and interest rates to zero didn't work, would a stimulus really do anything either?

>>17874988
Underestimated big time. Your info was a big wake up call and very helpful. Family finally taking this seriously enough to keep the little kids from visiting 90+ year old grandma. Won’t save my svxy, only time will.

I definitely... I shouldn’t have ignored so many warning signs. CEO resignations, administration incompetence, and that shift to a blowoff top look in the charts. Forgot to watch credit spreads. ALWAYS WATCH CREDIT SPREADS, even though not an early indicator. And didn’t stay up to date with dwyer and take cio’s bearishness seriously enough. IGNORED Azar sounding panicked when he knew he dropped the ball!!! Thought the market completed a reversal of the bear thrust, wrong! Didn’t watch close enough and do own charting. Uhhhh /rant

>>17875084
Opposite. Stress makes me constipated.

My wife wants to buy airline stocks of all things because "people will always need to travel." I explained how utterly fucked they were, but she says theyll just get bailed out and will go back up. What say you, /biz/?

>>17875098
kek, I slept like 4 hours

>>17875074
whats your guess on low enough, shits rock solid compared to everything else, trading from 124 pre crash to kissing 101 then retrace to 112. I'm considering using it as a safe haven at this stage (only joking im not retarded)

>>17875084
I'll get nauseous from really bad stress, but I haven't thrown up from it so far.

>>17875081
Your whale maneuvering of bowlingball is endlessly enterining to me.

>>17875081
FINE
but consider drawing more bowling rats.

>>17875084
>>17875116
Sounds like of digestive distress in these troubling times!!

I’ve been stress eating all my emergency supplies of Costco protein bars...

>>17875120
did she also suck lehman brothers dick?

Aaaaagggghhhh I’m fucked I didn’t sell SPXU SQQQ SPXS yesterday at close. What have I done? Wait till Wednesday and sell?

>>17875120
only long term would make sense.
Yet if the whole summer season drops that means they really will be at the brink of collapse.

>>17875111
oh I meant to tell you! If you know any doctors, fuggin beg them to write you a preemptive prescription to Chloroquine. It's a very dangerous drug with awful side effects, but it's what's really been pulling ahead as a possible effective treatment. Pharma tech I talked to said you'd have thought we were having a massive malaria outbreak, physicians all over the country are writing their families scripts in case they get sick. It's not guaranteed to work, and it takes a long time to have an effect, but it's what all the big big people are buying up right now. You have to be on zinc in conjunction, get zinc lozenges and take them every day.

>>17875120
tell her to buy the airline stocks with her own money
do you have no backbone, man?

>>17875171
>zinc lozenges
is that better than normal zinc pills in some way

>>17875089
Yes, but what I don't understand is how daily reset of leveraged ETF works when they aren't trading in the same hour as the index itself

>>17875186
no they're just the easiest to find in normal grocery stores

>>17875186
The point is to coat your membranes with ionic zinc.
If you're unlucky you'll give yourself nerve damage and permanently lose your sense of taste and smell though.

>AEX projected to open +2,56%

>>17875188
leveraged and inverse index ETfs are constructed with futures contracts, not shares

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/exchangetradedfunds/07/leveraged-etf.asp

>>17875203
really :o
I didn't know! Point is they're administering zinc+chloroquine in South Korea, there's a good chance that's why they're doing so well

>>17875120
All major airlines in the United States have bankrupted after 911 and this will be worse than 911

>>17875109
These things may not stop the fall but they will juice the recovery real good.

>>17875224
So how does this work if you hold for a couple days?

>>17875171
I thought there was some old AIDS drug that was used in conjunction with chloroquine.

Which gold stocks should i buy? Besides gold etfs?

>>17875120
Tell her to wait until May at least. Surviving airlines are going to get a spectacular bounce but they've got more room to fall before then. Relying on a maybe bailout is no good.

>>17875250
The company that manages the ETF takes care of that.
they are the ones buying and selling instruments to make sure that the ETF shares track the target index.
you can (should!) read about ETF creation/redemption mechanics to learn more.

>>17875261
yes I believe they're using darunavir, in Thailand? Not sure about that, all I know is sunmommy is bullish on chloroquine.

>>17875225
Yeah, the nerve damage is a long shot, but even regular use will fuck with you.
Ionic zinc basically removes your senses of taste and smell for a few hours, and leaves a metallic residue on your tongue.
The mechanism of action requires the ionic zinc to be coating the cells it’s acting on, which also means that zinc pills are useless.

>dax futures +5.37%

>>17873823
Matthew 10:28

>>17875157
Yeah, it would be long term. All of the airlines arent going to be allowed to fail, but goddamn if it seems insane to bet on them right now regardless of how cheap they are.

>>17875277
so I could just pop open a zinc pill andput a few milligrams in my mouth?
I'd prefer to fight this thing the old-fashioned way

>>17875298
Wait for end of April.
End of April they promised to test a new vaccine

Are we back?

>>17875287
i shorted with $20k when it was at 7% because there is absolutely no fucking way it goes above that the entire day
+110% gain already so far

WE BACK UP STOCKS ARE STILL DOWN

WHEEEEEE FOURCHANS BACKKKK

Holy shit. Silver. Lmao.
I can’t believe I have some of this garbage in my Ira... should've taken profits.

https://123news.tv/cnbc-live-stream/

futures be green, harvard pencil pusher said this is gonna have adverse effects for 10 years

why is it pumping !!!

>>17875407
Denial

>>17875407
don't worry
we will trigger the breakers all the same

How can you make so much money with so little? I see a dude on reddit make 100k with 800 dollars in 2 days.

>>17875388
What?! You mean coronavirus??!!!

Let me know when they’re going to have el erian on, I have to catch up on yesterday’s news!!

>>17875407
Mr. Bones would like to remind you.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHY DO I ONLY OWN ONE SHARE OF REGENEROOOOOOONNNNN!!!!


>>17875407
Hmmmm

you hear that? that the sound of boomers laughing because they're going to make the rest of us sacrifice the economy to save them.

>>17875425
options

>>17875451
Oops forgot pic

We’re gonna pump today boys!!

NOT GETTING THE VACCINE
DON'T LIKE INJECTIONS OR JABS, SIMPLE AS.

>>17875299
>which also means that zinc pills are useless.
>>17875224
Thanka for the link
>>17875107
They simply started containment action earlier than western countries

When will it be time to buy? I just put 25% of my cash into stocks.

>>17875489
2 months from now is the conservative estimate

>>17873617

how come puts are still profitable with this vol

>>17875509
>2 months
no

if we havent dumped until wednesday ill close my puts,

Wait. So what are we doing?
Fuck it I bought some pfe.

>"Ya gonna go below 0?"
lmao

Someone asked about airline bailouts?
>Reeling from the coronavirus crisis, U.S. airlines are seeking over $50 billion in financial assistance from the government, more than three times the size of the industry's bailout after the Sept. 11 attacks. https://on.wsj.com/2Uc1SYv

>>17875171
THAAAAAAANK YOU
I will see about that. Now that Elon Memesk tweeted about it, It might soon go on short supply.

So everyone needs to supplement with zinc. And IF they test positive, take chloroquine? I assume it’s not worth the risk of taking it for just symptoms or something?

>>17875277
Ah shit. So don’t supplement but try and find lozenges instead...
I’m mostly concerned about my elderly and currently ill relatives, some already on cancer meds... don’t know what reactions zinc lozenges might have considering they could cause nerve damage?!

>>17875489
I thought yesterday was the bottom, but this shit looks like some survival horror movie. Economy where small business owners go out of business because they have to go 1-2 months closed and 15% of people over 70 who get this shit dies.

>>17875120
>My wife wants to buy airline stocks of all things because "people will always need to travel." I explained how utterly fucked they were, but she says theyll just get bailed out and will go back up. What say you, /biz/?
She's technically right, the problem is that it's hard to know which ones will survive until the almost inevitable bailout and which ones will be deleted.

If you wanna invest in air travel I'd recommend investing in specialty plane part companies.

>>17875574
Trump said like 3 or 4 times in a minute in yesterday's press conference that the airlines will be taken care of.

I'm not from NA , how's the virus over there? are cities locked down? is it just spreading?

>>17875597
yeah I was going to listen to that but I got sucked into a Lovecraft audiobook...

>>17875587
Also, haven't they been horrible for investors? I remember an updated version of Graham's book talking about that in the preface, they were horible in his day and horrible since?

I don't know, someone check the graphs. Alright I'm hitting the road!

>>17875621
San Jose, Oakland, and San Francisco is almost at martial law status and locked down for 3 weeks. They're the only ones so far that've gone full "Italy."

>>17875621
It's just getting started, peak fear will be in about a week or two

thought i was banned or something lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM

>>17875621
https://twitter.com/i/status/1239618604255059975

>>17875637
>>17875638
>>17875649
By the time fear peaks in the US other markets would've been already priced in, no?

>>17875649
Nothing of value would be lost if the entirety of the American South got shafted by Coronavirus because they're too ignorant to deal with the situation.

whats the prediction for today and tomorrow boys

>>17875637
Seriously?
I’m literally headed to Oakland right now. I didn’t think it was on the quarantine list.

>>17875636
>Also, haven't they been horrible for investors? I remember an updated version of Graham's book talking about that in the preface, they were horible in his day and horrible since?
What, in terms of dividends and such?
Yes.
Airplane stock exists for buying and cashing out, not ever as a legit investment.

>>17875698
I was projecting green because the changes to medical testing pushed through last night, and Regeneron retesting the $500 limit.

>>17875639
Economy is dead

>>17875726
got expiration 1st of april for a put of 244 strike price, should i leave it to buy cheaper later ? not sure

>>17875712
America's most important tech region is on lockdown for 3 weeks, the Nasdaq's gonna be fucked for months.

>>17875752
Cant give advice on options. I just bought some Pfizer hoping on a pump, I plan on dumping bags if we do get a big green. Probably buying some SH or SQQQ/SDOW.

>>17875638
If most traders are in NYC and the virus is already blowing through there, wouldn't we be on our way up??

>>17875778
>>17875778
>>17875778
new
>>17875778
>>17875778

>>17875772
Ah shit. Oakland’s in one of those.
Goddamn it...
Well shelter in place is fine. My family isn’t infected yet. Thanks for the map.

>>17875790
>>17875790
>>17875790


New thread

>>17875790
>>17875790
>>17875790

Triple K's to build a solid defensive wall is a smart play in these dark and shat times. Followed by a helping hand of Him and his fat divvy. KDP,KHC,KO and T. P.S - Bag DIS now while you still got a chance in hell, the high is 152 something you know.

>>17875793
>>17875799

>>17875814

>>17874089
saved thank you

>>17875676
No, because US market panic will in turn affect other markets around the world