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17832564 No.17832564 [Reply] [Original]

im warming up to this 'cuz i'm going to be broke as hell in 6months with huge credit card debt with 0% API expiring end of year, and the fact that stinky linky ain't going to $1K EOY to save my ass

>> No.17832590

>>17832564
>All the people who want to become entrepreneurs should be punished to support retard bottom feeders
Ever wonder why billionaires support this?

>> No.17832608

there's this wild and wacky thing called "work" you could try

>> No.17832627

>>17832590
Keeps the lower class weak and content. As long as the taxes for it come out of the midlingly wealthy it'll be a free way for them to keep people down.

>>17832608
We're about to hit a recession maybe even a full blown depression. There won't be any "Work" soon enough.

>> No.17832635

>>17832564
seriously though, can 'murica afford to give everyone $1K a month? would everything else just go up by $1K? like if sales tax is currently 10% would sales tax increase to like 20% to get the money to give people $1k a month?

>> No.17832656

>>17832608
There's this wacky thing called automation and the disappearance of manufacturing jobs.

>> No.17832676

whats stopping raising rent, prices etc if everybody got 1k?

>> No.17832734

>>17832676
Have you been paying attention to rent prices lately? Prices are already going up and that's with an unchanged average income. It's not need or inflation driving up those prices. It's sheer greed. Greed will drive up prices UBI or not.

>> No.17832799

>>17832656
Get an education or a trade that cant easily be autiomated

>> No.17832809

>>17832734
donno, but this does seem like a throw more gas to the fire solution rather than an actual solution.

>> No.17832888

>>17832799
Yeah when I started my degree that was business management, now office buildings full of middle management fuckwits are being replaced with programs and bots. For the generation before me it was accounting that was safe, now also largely automated.

Keep thinking a machine could never possibly build a house or run wiring.

>> No.17832907

>>17832564
i mean we don't have to give UBI to everyone
only to U.S. citizens and make less than $250,000 a year
how's that?

>> No.17832910

>>17832809
In theory it should work, This isn't a problem with production, just financials.

With automation we produce a staggering amount for relatively little work. So there is certainly enough food/water and basic goods to go around for everyone that's not in a third world shit-hole.

>>17832888
3d printed homes. There's already a few prototypes of it I think.

>> No.17832916

>>17832676
>What’s stopping them from raising the price of everything

They already are. Prices have vastly outpaced wages for many decades

>Waah inflation

They aren’t printing the money retard.

>> No.17833065

>>17832888
maybe machines will do plumbing, or build bridges, or lay pipes, but definitely not in our lifetime

And even if they could, that doesnt mean people who arent useless fucks made obsolete by technology have an obligation to support your dumb ass

>> No.17833093

>>17832916
>They already are. Prices have vastly outpaced wages for many decades
thats why everyones fat instead of starving and the standard of living has never been higher. People are just soooo underpaid that they live better than kings did only a few hundred years back

>> No.17833271

>>17832635

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/the-freedom-dividend/

read about the Freedom Divident (Basic Income) that Andrew Yang is proposing. the guy is a genius and has forward-thinking ideas that fit our times.
he explains on his site how we could afford Basic Income, and the VAT tax would pay for about half of it.
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/value-added-tax/

this guy needs more attention. it's a shame that his following is rapidly growing....but just a little too late. there's always 2024.

>> No.17833323

>>17833271

You guys know yang dropped out week ago right?
Right?

>> No.17833343

Where we're going, you're not gonna need any money

>> No.17833367
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17833367

the current administration is going to give everyone $1500/month until this crisis is over. they will not be able to untangle all of the relationships between employers and landlords. cash will be distributed to citizens to avoid a complete collapse. screencap this post

>> No.17833422

>>17833271
damn be cool if could be a running mate for Biden or Sanders

>> No.17833529

>>17833367
You do realize that 1500/month for 330 million is just under 500 billion a month? Seems unrealistic to hand out 6 trillion a year when the entire federal budget is 4.1 trillion.

>> No.17833567

>>17832608
I'm on furlough all week and maybe longer.

>> No.17833610

>>17833529
It goes "burrrrr"

>> No.17833647

>>17833529
it will only be for 2 months

>> No.17833732

>>17833529
1) It will probably be very short term, Like 1-3 months tops.
2) It'll probably be some weak ass $500 a month.
3) They dumped how many trillions into the market this month? As far as they are concerned Money machine = BRRRR.

>> No.17833734

>>17833323

doesn't mean we should stop teaching people about his ideas. now is the time to start the push for 2024....we have to get him into office.

>> No.17833802

>>17833422
biden just pledged to have a woman running mate so...