/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.17722991]

intensely studying h-manga to learn the secrets of the ancient stock traders edition
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>>17721924

[Anonymous No.17723009]

fresh reposties

>meema died jan
>left a trust, it's all in the market
>talk to the lawyer couple weeks ago, says he's going on vacation first two weeks of march
>no call back to 3 voicemails left when shit started to hit the fan

what the fuck should i do
i see currently a collective 17% drop from what shit was on feb 29th. only just got the holdings details on monday, proctor, chevron, johnson, intel, was at ~27k, now at ~22k

if i get through to anyone tomorrow, should i still sell everything and buy back in later?
might just even pull it all for credit card payoff and close the trust

[Anonymous No.17723017]

[Anonymous No.17723018]

[Anonymous No.17723026]

>>17722991
reply with which stocks to buy for profit or your mother catches corona tonight

[Anonymous No.17723040]

>buying
>stocks
why? stonks only go down

[Anonymous No.17723041]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tviyAIS9c_U

[Anonymous No.17723043]

it's over now

[Anonymous No.17723048]

How low are we going /biz/?

[Anonymous No.17723057]

Go on my son. Buy, buy, and buy until you are unable to buy anymore.
This is the bottom.
We've entered bedrock.
Literally stealing at these prices.
You're no fool, are you?

[Anonymous No.17723059]

market needs to crab for 2 days so i can get my paycheck ffs
then all in on negative ETFs

[Anonymous No.17723064]

>>17723009
how much credit card debt do you even have?
what interest rate?

[Anonymous No.17723065]

>>17723026
It'll be airlines when the time comes. don't mess around with shorting or puts or inverse etfs right now if you don't know what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.17723067]

Travel ban is for Euros coming to America only, trade is not suspended.
Trump met with big banks yesterday, big plans ahead.
200 billion in repo money tomorrow.
Tomorrow is not the crash.
>Monday is the crash.

[Anonymous No.17723069]

>>17723048
19k Screen Cap This.

[Anonymous No.17723074]

the media went all out on fear mongering yesterday and it probably peaked today. what day I do go all in, and what short term calls should I buy? its gotta be either tomorrow or right before the end of this week surely.

[Anonymous No.17723077]

>>17723026
SQQQ. Im tired of saying this over and over

[Anonymous No.17723079]

>>17723057

[Anonymous No.17723083]

>market tanks
>corona declared a pandemic
>Trump declares travel ban
>gold still somehow slips on the ASX

Just fucking kill me when will people start buying up gold

[Anonymous No.17723084]

FUCK
BULLS
KILL
YOURSELVES

[Anonymous No.17723091]

ONE AT A TIME

COME GET YER SOUP

[2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.17723092]

For those that missed it

[Anonymous No.17723094]

>>17723026
Airlines

[Anonymous No.17723103]

>>17723079
We're 85% pink wojak index at best

[Anonymous No.17723104]

Thread Theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypHZ_iKBcoo

[Anonymous No.17723111]

>this pump
lmao
right on time powell, still won't fucking work

[Anonymous No.17723112]

>>17722954
Bulls no longer in control
Bullish breast crust incomplete, bearish was thoroughly violated to a record. I should’ve known that was the tutes.
Bobo in control for a while. Did unspeakable things to me.

[Anonymous No.17723124]

*ahem*

[Anonymous No.17723127]

>>17723084
there's no denying it now
BEARS are fully in control now
sweet, sweet justice

[Anonymous No.17723135]

>>17723057
Stocks are looking good to me too right about now. We all know that the most important thing is time in the market, not timing the market. Holding stocks over the long term, even despite temporary drops, allows one to reap the rewards of year after year of compound interest, which makes a lifetime of investing worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.17723136]

>>17723064
>>17723064
enough to warrant paying it off first, graduate school expenses while i wasn't working
i can pay shit off in about 2 months or i can pull all stocks and have it paid off now, and buy with same power in two months

though i do work that is 100% travel, so that might be fucked soon enough

[Anonymous No.17723139]

>>17723111
This is quite the pump though.

I need another circuit breaker in my life and I don't want to wait until open for it

[Anonymous No.17723141]

Fresh beef, anyone?

[Anonymous No.17723142]

>mfw I bought 1 billion SPY calls $420 exp 3/13

[Anonymous No.17723148]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KI9eN-AY1s

[Anonymous No.17723154]

>>17723092
I prefer staying with SSO/QLD at the very most aggressive.

my overall guidance is still 50/50 in KNG/QLD, but SSO/QQQX is basically the complementary portfolio, so an even split between those four is fine as well.
the point is to have some healthy yield generation to supplement the equities, without giving up too much of the long-term upside

[Anonymous No.17723168]

>>17723009
Don't fucking pull it out. In a few years it's going to be back to it's previous value and keep climbing

[Anonymous No.17723176]

>>17723112
>moo
how much money did u lose

>>17723136
>i do work that is 100% travel
not good for you

[Anonymous No.17723179]

>>17723065
Which airlines you doing once they get hit?

[Anonymous No.17723180]

>>17723168
>few years
kek

[Anonymous No.17723191]

>>17723083
Gold is a scam you retard.

[Anonymous No.17723193]

>>17723179
I dunno, whatever charts look best.

[Anonymous No.17723201]

it's time like these where i think to myself i should've stuck to investing in real estate

[Anonymous No.17723203]

>>17723124
everybody dance now!
bo che che che bo che che che

[Anonymous No.17723208]

>>17723179
poorfag here, just gonna go for American

[Anonymous No.17723209]

>>17723191
big agree

[Anonymous No.17723214]

Rec me something to fap to

[Anonymous No.17723227]

It's midnight lads. I'm going to sleep and pray that I'll wake up from this nightmare.

[Anonymous No.17723229]

>>17723168
fucking retarded bulls, it will take the better part of the decade or LONGER you stupid nigger. he needs to cash out then wait to get back in once the depr/recession ends

[Anonymous No.17723232]

>>17723214
bud dwyer suicide video

[Anonymous No.17723234]

>>17723208
Despite being my least favorite airline to fly on, I’ll probably do the cheapest as well.

[Anonymous No.17723236]

>>17723214
Shadman's newest pic

[Anonymous No.17723240]

>>17722991

guess i'll take a week to study each airline fundamentals

the bull/call rush after corona chan will be intense

[Anonymous No.17723243]

So what happens when tons of schools are shut down and parents have to watch their kids and can’t work?
It’s already beginning to happen.

[Anonymous No.17723248]

>>17723093
You don't get it.

The death rate looks to be something like 0.1-3.5%.

But 20% of people get put in the ICU needing help to breathe.

As long as we have enough equipment for those 20%, the death rate stays low around 0.1-3.5%.

But it turns out that equipment is very limited in quantity. If the number of infected goes too high, there won't be enough for everyone who needs it, and the people left out will die.

Italy is already seeing this.

The farther you go past your capacity, the more deaths you have, and it distorts the death from 0.1-3.5% up to a maximum of 20% (if you get to the point where there are so many infected that virtually all the 20% group goes untreated).

I think it's very unlikely to get to that point, because individual cities in the us would prob change their behavior and do real lockdowns as soon as they see people dying in hospitals.

But if Germany actually did have 70% of their population, resulting in 14% of their population needing life-saving equipment with only enough for 0.1% of the population, they'd see something close to 14-0.1=13.9% of their population die.

It's not that the death rate of the virus is high, it's that every nation's life-saving capacity is very low because nobody has stockpiled this kind of equipment expecting to need it for a global pandemic that leaves 20% of people unable to breathe unassisted.

[Anonymous No.17723267]

>>17723214
I got you bro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIoagUmvyTw

[Anonymous No.17723268]

Powell's going to cut rates by a couple hundred points any time now. Bond prices will go through the roof. You literally can't go wrong in the markets now. Keep your cool, stay invested, buy something and just don't panic!

[Anonymous No.17723281]

>>17723240
>the bull/call rush after corona chan will be intense
>implying there will be people left after Corona-chan

[Anonymous No.17723283]

>>17723009
At this point probably not worth doing anything. Don't listen to doomers, we are more than halfway down. Only iffy one is Chevron because oil is fucked right now. Maybe once this is over in a year, you can switch some of it into tech stocks.

[Anonymous No.17723285]

>futures

[Anonymous No.17723294]

>>17723248
The death rate depends on medical bandwidth. If the system can support all the sick people it's between .2-.5%, if hospitals are overwhelmed it's 3-5%. A huge jump, which is why preventing transmission is going to be fucking vital.

[Anonymous No.17723295]

Thoughts?
WWE, UBER puts
thinking of EWG and EWI as well
hoping morning premiums don't fuck me. any other recommendations are appreciated

[Anonymous No.17723301]

>>17722991
GUYS TELL ME IF THIS IDEA IS RETARDED OR NOT


I WANT TO BUY PUTS FOR RUSSEL INDEX (IWM)

WOULD COST ME LIKE $224

First time playing with puts. So buy it at $111 strike price with a March 31 expiration and just hold and take my profits when I see fit??? Is that right?

Someone please help me understand - i don't know how i pick strike price

[Anonymous No.17723308]

post yfw the billionaires buy out the market tomorrow just to spite the bears

[Anonymous No.17723311]

>>17723285
lookin good :^)

[Anonymous No.17723317]

>>17723285
>back to only -3%
Where did the doomers go? Suddenly their -7% day isn't looking to well. Almost like theres 200 billion repo tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.17723331]

>>17723201
Depopulation will fuck real estate.

[Anonymous No.17723332]

BUY NVDA

[Anonymous No.17723333]

>>17723176
I just typed out a whole explanation of how much I am up/down but then realized that's a rhetorical question.

I forgot to buy more SH today though which was dumb. And then I figured I could get it cheaper after Trump's speech but holy shit he's showing his true retard colors now.

[Anonymous No.17723334]

>>17723248
Not just equipment and beds, but personnel too.

There will be medical attrition the likes that there have never been seen before. I’ve seen docs where the majority of nurses dealing with corona patients in Seattle/Washington are reporting symptoms.
Not only that, think of all the female soldiers who freaked out during the Iran incident and became weeping messes at the very hint of being shipped off.

Who will care for the caretakers?

[Anonymous No.17723347]

>>17723332
k just sold a bunch of AMD might dump last share tomorrow. Think it'll hit Dec 2018 levels?

[Anonymous No.17723353]

MY GAINS NOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YOU BLUUUUUUMPFFFFFFF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH SAVE ME POWELLL AAAAAAAAAAAAH MAKE MONEY PRINTER GO NOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW

[Anonymous No.17723356]

Futures in nosedive after Europe quarantined from USA (right call, it had to be done to keep those lepers out fuck stockcucks).

Circuit breakers are insufficient for what's coming. The market will simply be closed for the day at some point.

[Anonymous No.17723367]

>>17723301
I answered 3 of your questions in the last thread, doubt you read any of them

[Anonymous No.17723369]

>>17723285
WE MADE IT BOYS

[Anonymous No.17723372]

>>17723356
Not even China closed their markets totally.

[Anonymous No.17723382]

>>17723334
Adding on to this, medical personnel being constantly exposed to lots of sick people end up with very high viral loads, which means they get extremely sick and die even with advanced intervention and without any underlying conditions at very high rates.

[Anonymous No.17723387]

Hoping to get some more SQQQ tomorrow, has there been any more major news in the last few hours? been away from the computer for about 5hours

[Anonymous No.17723388]

>>17723353
>posted right right as dow futures plummet from -690 to -770
was that the extent of Powell's power?

[Anonymous No.17723390]

>>17723285
The market will plunge into another nosedive when the opening bell rings.

[Anonymous No.17723393]

>>17723367
Only saw one person respond who told me to look for cheaper shit (lol what?), could you link your responses?

Would love to read them

[Anonymous No.17723403]

>>17722991
>ntensely studying h-manga to learn the secrets of the ancient stock traders edition
do better

[Anonymous No.17723405]

>>17723356
>The market will simply be closed for the day at some point
they're closing everything else

closing the markets is the ultimate technique of the crab , the ⸢Absolute Trading Blocker::Final Volume Shutdown⸥ where all the options traders get absolutely anal'd

[Anonymous No.17723406]

>>17723372
It going to be worse in the USA than China. Nobody's getting welded in here or herded into metal boxes in the back of pickups screaming.

[Anonymous No.17723412]

Post companies that won't exist after the recession

[Anonymous No.17723415]

>>17723317
>>>17723067

hate to break it to you guys but that's not much more than has been happening every night this week.

[Anonymous No.17723416]

>>17723387
splits

[Anonymous No.17723417]

>>17723248

Have you got a source for that 20% figure? Is it actually 20% of all cases; 20% of *confirmed* cases; or just 20% of those who have been hospitalised with coronavirus?

I'm not attacking your logic btw, as you're making an important point, but there's a huge difference in the impact of the virus among those 3 different situations.

[Anonymous No.17723418]

>>17723112
this is all part of my master plan
Small spec buy dip = large spec dump it Spy Band 1 =
I all in from the wishing well loose change on leverage and become millionare

[Anonymous No.17723423]

>>17723064

[Anonymous No.17723428]

>>17723356
>futures drop to -5 but are already back at -3
Doomers are so fucking dumb. Tomorrow is going to pump from repos. Just like every other time.

[Anonymous No.17723432]

>>17723382
Yeah, in Iran and South Korea, nearly every young death I have found information on was of someone in the medical field.

[Anonymous No.17723437]

> Look at futures
> Look at my positions
> Look at futures
> Look at my positions
I'm gonna get some rest, not feeling super at all with flu like symptoms while never once in my life getting a flu shot, or the flu. I feel like my position is going to rocket by Monday, Friday of next week at the latest, and I will die from coronavirus before the funds even clear.

[Anonymous No.17723444]

>>17723428
Repos don't pump the markets you idiot. They only serve to help the liquidity issue

[Anonymous No.17723445]

>>17723428
the current situation is unprecedented

[Anonymous No.17723447]

>>17723428
Always go against what /biz/ says.

[Anonymous No.17723448]

>>17723415
>he doesn't understand cycles
Big pump, big dump, big pump, big dump. They are taking all your money fools.

[Anonymous No.17723456]

>>17723418
thought you already were a millionaire...

[Anonymous No.17723460]

>>17723248
E.g., let's say the "true" death rate is 1% but it still puts 20% in the hospital.

Let's say there's enough equipment to help 100,000 people breathe.

If 500,000 get infected and 20% need help breathing, then 100,000 people all get the equipment they need, and since the death rate is 1%, only 5,000 die (out of our 500,000 infected).

If 550,000 people get infected and 20% need life-saving equipment then that's 110,000 people vs capacity to help 100,000 people. Immediately, you have to let 10,000 people die.

Then, isn't there the "true" death rate of 1%? Probably, but I'm going to assume they let all the people with diabetes, a heart condition, old age, etc. die because that's what Italy is doing, and to be simple I'm going to assume the people who would be in the 1% were moved to that 10k who died without treatment. Thus, all the people who got treatment survive.

The death rate here is 10k / 550k = 1.8%.

Just increasing number of infected by 10% from 500k to 550k nearly doubled our death rate from the "true" 1% to 1.8%.

The total infected seems to double every 4 days recently. Let's say we wait 4 days to lockdown after 500k infected.

In that case, 500k doubles to 1m infected. 200k (20%) need equipment but there's only enough for 100k, so 200k - 100k = 100k die. That's a death rate of 100k/1m = 10%.

Let's say nobody locks down until people are dying in hospital hallways without care. If it takes an average of 16 days (I heard 12-17? Can't remember which) to die, then people don't notice the overflow deaths till 16 days after they were infected.

I.e., instead of locking down at 500k, people finally panic and lock down at 550k plus 16 days. That's 4 doubling periods... Total infected = 550k * 16 = 8.8m.

Even though they locked down when they saw hospitals overwhelmed, there's already so many infected who haven't started hurting yet. But they will. It'll be 20% of 8.8m = 1.76m vs 0.1m breathing capacity, for a death rate of 1.66m/8.8m = 18.9%.

[Anonymous No.17723469]

>>17723448
That shit ended yesterday after those 1100 points got raped today. Bulls are too few, the headlines keep piling up and only getting worse, the true panic is about to begin.

[Anonymous No.17723470]

>>17723418
You're NOT all in?!
Are you... OUT?!?!
shit...

>>17723236
made me check, oddly enough that girl was just posted on smg last night

[Anonymous No.17723475]

>>17723444
>>17723445
>>17723447
Simple planning will save you a lot of money.
Tomorrow most likely pump, perfect for shorting cheap. Then selling on Monday crash. Bottom is near, it will come faster than you think. Play all sides.

[Anonymous No.17723479]

unironically, free of doom and gloom, what's going to be a wise choice to buy for holding long term?

everything will recover eventually, and I'm only 25. a happening like this is new to me. what (reasonably safe) stocks should i pick up for cheap while my fellow man is dying in the streets?

[Anonymous No.17723487]

>>17723475
You're delusional

[Anonymous No.17723491]

>tfw long gold but kinda just want everything to work out alright so don't have to deal with bank runs and empty supermarket shelves

Knowing my luck, gold will tank as everyone gets margin called and society will collapse anyway.

[Anonymous No.17723493]

>>17723428
>futures recovered!
lol
just ignoring how we did a +5 to -.5 to +5 again day
or monday morning when futures, which had been in the -4 to -6% range in europe, crashed into the -10% range before recovering somewhat?
and what pray tell is going to make tomorrow a green day?

[Anonymous No.17723497]

>>17723475
>Tomorrow most likely pump

[Anonymous No.17723505]

>>17723479
wait for total collapse, go back in spy

[Anonymous No.17723506]

>>17723460
RIP only 70k ventilators.

[Anonymous No.17723511]

I KNOW

I KNOW I'VE LET YOU DOWN

I'VE BEEN A FOOL TO MYSELF

I THOUGHT THAT I COULD LIVE FOR NO ONE ELSE

[Anonymous No.17723514]

>>17723447
I've been posting this in SMG for days now, and I really hope either you, or any anon thinking similarly, there are definitely times to be contrarian especially against /biz, but those times are called stable markets. You don't go contrarian when the entire world is under quarantine. Especially when oil is so low that we literally can't get it out of the ground without losing money. Especially when just tonight so many worse headlines have came out. There's still gonna be contrarians, but man I wish you could see how big of a mistake that thinking is.

[2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.17723522]

>>17723437
>$220 strike for an SPY put
>expires 3/20
Where's my laughing-girls.jpg when I need it most?

[Anonymous No.17723529]

>>17723487
>>17723493
>>17723497
>-6% TOMORROW!!!
>-7% TOMORROW!!!
>-8% TOMORROW!!!
>STONKS ONLY GO DOWN!
>WE WILL DROP 14% IN 2 DAYS (even though last week we ended flat)
I'm the delusional one?

[Anonymous No.17723532]

>>17723479

Also 25 and also interested in this. What's the safest place for my money assuming we don't go full apocalypse mode? Not feeling super confident about leaving it in the bank.

[Anonymous No.17723539]

>>17723460
>Let's say nobody locks down until people are dying in hospital hallways without care. If it takes an average of 16 days (I heard 12-17? Can't remember which) to die
This is without care? Or if you were to die with medical care?

[Anonymous No.17723545]

>>17723428
> Futures are up to -3% from -5%
> Surely they will continue to rise all the way to 930am and open the market green!
> This is bullish!
You can smell the desperation

[Anonymous No.17723546]

>>17723532
50/50 SSO/QQQX

[Anonymous No.17723549]

>>17723529
We will not be ending this week flat. Last Friday was the dead cat bounce

[Anonymous No.17723550]

>>17723479
>>17723532
i'm interested in this too

i have 10k cash in my savings what do I invest in

[Anonymous No.17723551]

>>17723529
i dunno if u heard trumps speech but there was nothing in it thats gonna make people buy tomorrow

[Anonymous No.17723554]

>>17723529
Last week, European tourism wasnt slammed into the ground by the US gov for a month and King Sandnigger is still devaluing his own oil price.

[Anonymous No.17723557]

[Anonymous No.17723565]

>>17723529
>ignored everything I said two strawman
lol
you didn't answer my question, what is going to make the market magically go green today?
the last pump was on hype for trump's stimulus stuff, and we see how that turned out with this speech that was a big fat nothing burger.
and by nothing burger I mean
>making people think you banned literally all travel to europe (except the uk for some reason) only to have that gutted with exceptions after the speech
what else is there to be green about?

[Anonymous No.17723578]

>>17722991
stocks on waiting for boeing to go at or below pre MAGA levels to buy?

[Anonymous No.17723579]

>>17723522
> He thinks I'm retarded and holding literally any of them to expiration
Oh anon, you do understand you can sell your options on the market at any time before the expiration, right? After tomorrow's dump, and selling towards the end of Fridays dump, uh yeah it worked out fine. Something close to 90% of options expire worthless, imo holding anything to expiry is retarded. I've done it a few times, and made money on many, but not a single time did it close out at its peak.

[Anonymous No.17723589]

>>17723456
well actually, I have infinite money (wishing well)
>>17723470
youre never all in, Ive got 30 years of pennies to put in

[Anonymous No.17723613]

>>17723578
crashing faster than their planes, i see

[Anonymous No.17723614]

>>17723529
> Absolutely nothing has changed since last week
> We haven't gotten a shitload more bad headlines
> We haven't seen our president fail to even hold a press conference about his plan
> We haven't had entire cities ban all large gatherings
O..okay anon, good luck.

[Anonymous No.17723619]

>>17723479
Start googling stocks that pay dividends and buy on the way down, that’s your safest bet given that you don’t know jack shit about stocks

[Anonymous No.17723621]

Any leafs ITT?
BAM and VGRO are fucking dying, wat do

[Anonymous No.17723622]

>>17723614
> We haven't had entire cities ban all large gatherings
>cities
*states
or the fact Italy has closed literally all shops but grocery stores and pharmacies

[Anonymous No.17723627]

>>17723579

Robinhood is going to crash tomorrow and Friday, and Monday is going to moon once we start seeing the new daily US numbers lowering.

Hope you enjoy holding over the weekend, anon. :^)

[Anonymous No.17723638]

>>17723124
>the hitlerbunker
hehe, holy BASED

[Anonymous No.17723641]

>>17723417
World Health Organization says 20%:
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fbt49e/the_who_sent_25_international_experts_to_china/

And it's actually 20%, not inflated by some large number of asymptomatic cases, as said here by one of the WHO investigators:

"surprise, and this is something we still don’t understand, is how little virus there was in the much broader community. Everywhere we went, we tried to find and understand how many tests had been done, how many people were tested, and who were they.

In Guangdong province, for example, there were 320,000 tests done in people coming to fever clinics, outpatient clinics. And at the peak of the outbreak, 0.47 percent of those tests were positive. People keep saying [the cases are the] tip of the iceberg. But we couldn’t find that. We found there’s a lot of people who are cases, a lot of close contacts — but not a lot of asymptomatic circulation of this virus in the bigger population."
- https://www.vox.com/2020/3/2/21161067/coronavirus-covid19-china

Maybe that's biased upward because China's air pollution is bad for their lungs or something. Italy is seeing 14% ICU or dead iirc but maybe that's because not all the 20% has come to the ER by the time we get the statistics, or maybe it has something to do with how they test, as they deliberately dont test those who haven't developed symptoms:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/world/europe/italy-coronavirus.html

[Anonymous No.17723642]

>>17723614

You bearfags have been parroting the exact same thing for weeks.
>NO NO AST FRIDAY WASNT THE REAL CRASH, ITS THIS FRIDAY FOR REALSIES THIS TIME

Lmao whatever you sag nigga, can't wait for the day to end green so you bobo faggots can get your just desserts.

[Anonymous No.17723646]

>>17723627
> Oh no, I lost my profit, on profit, on profit money that I dumped into shorting everything
I'll be fine just fine thanks!

[Anonymous No.17723662]

>futures

so we all agree the recession is inevitable at this point right

[Anonymous No.17723667]

>>17723642
You do understand literally every US market hit lower today than it did last Friday, right? Go ahead and explain how we're lower than we were then, and somehow the crash isn't over.

[Anonymous No.17723668]

>>17723642
>keep calling a crash
>keeps crashing

[Anonymous No.17723671]

>>17723642

[Anonymous No.17723673]

Only smooth brains think single events are the cause for moves in the market, whether that's a virus or 200 billion repo.

The fact is we've been overvalued: in general over the past three decades, and more than 1929/2000/2008 over the past 2 years. Malinvestment and unproductive capital allocation has plagued the markets, starting in the 1970s, while financial instruments wielded by companies and individuals more wealthy than should exist have been used against a middle class who shouldn't have been allowed to legally compete in the first place. I dare any of you to argue against these points.

Now we're in a situation with gilded age level inequality and 1929 level valuations, with a moderate pandemic shuttering businesses globally (let's be real, it's not the bubonic plague which had a mortality rate of 80%), record levels of absolutely horrifically shitty debt that wasn't even used for productive means--only to prop up share prices.

The cherry on the top has been the fed this entire time. The most glorious bubbles in history: Tulips, South Sea, French Mississippi, 1929, were all fueled by increased monetary supply in the years immediately prior. It's the illusion that free money can last forever, and that consumption from the future can be indefinitely brought to the present--the definition of debt. Bumping up against the physical laws on Earth inevitably reverses each case.

The world isn't ending short of the nuclear risk. But this has already killed people, and from the remaining living literal decades of labor earnings having been stolen. From each and every one of us besides the top 2%. It will kill even more as all this unproductive capital unwinds. Maybe we can learn our lessons for longer than 90 years this time and keep key regulations in place, but I'm starting to doubt that it's within human nature to do so.

The virus is not the cause, but it was one of the sparks.

[Anonymous No.17723675]

>>17723622
and since this is new
>NEW: Oregon Gov. Kate Brown is banning all gatherings of 250+ people across the entire state.
so both Washington and Oregon doing it
>>17723642
>exact same thing
lol
Italy only closed every shop but those today, but do tell me how thats been said for weeks.
this is head in the sand tier delusion

[Anonymous No.17723678]

>>17723285
this hasn't aged well lmao

[Anonymous No.17723679]

how do people "do this for a living"?
is it like gambling? most strategies i find are to diversify and you'll earn the market rate over a long period of time.

so how would you regularly profit in a way that beats the market? it seems illogical. are stock brokers scam artists, because the market is a zero-sum game? over a long enough timeline, surely every managed fund is going to be outperformed by the market. so what's the catch?

[Anonymous No.17723682]

>>17723124
>plague inc
>great depression lady
fucking christ anon lul

[Anonymous No.17723688]

>>17723642
Not to mention, how new are you to trading? Friday is, the wide majority of the time, a sell off, especially for options traders. No one in their right mind, or at least decently experienced, would hold options over the weekend with this much volatility. The exceptions are plays bought with profit, sometimes ill hold those over the weekend.

[Anonymous No.17723696]

>>17723613
yeah cause you know the airlines are going to take a hit, but more often than not they bounce back or even get bail outs.

[Anonymous No.17723700]

>>17723613
Underrated

[Anonymous No.17723701]

where are we?

[Anonymous No.17723702]

>>17723539
Good question! Are you asking if it's 12-17 days to die with care or 12-17 without care? Honestly, I don't know. I also don't remember if it's 12, 14, 17, or what. I thought I saw a 17 in there but so many sources have blurred together my head the past few weeks it's hard to keep track.

[Anonymous No.17723703]

>>17723679
The odds of success aren't random, and the best funds have access to info no one else does.

[Anonymous No.17723710]

>>17723673
This, I believe a good part of this is MMs working to return assets closer to fair value, while also not announcing the absurd valuations STILL seen.

[Anonymous No.17723714]

>>17723529
Try no to kill yourself tomorrow, we need you here so we can laugh at your delusional retard hot takes

[2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.17723715]

Why the fuck is the Nifty 50 tanking?
What fucking reason do the poos have for panicking?
India has a grand total of about 50 or 60 fucking cases.
Fuck this gay Earth and fuck the poos

[Anonymous No.17723718]

>>17723701

complacency unironically

[Anonymous No.17723727]

>>17723641
>how little virus there was in the much broader community

This straight up makes no sense. How can it spread if the only people who have it are in hospital? Also, if that's the case, then how come South Korea got a mortality figure of 0.6% (vs 3%+ elsewhere) when they started testing the wider (including asymptomatic) population? Somebody's numbers are wrong somewhere. Given how badly they've bungled the handling of coronavirus so far, I'm taking the words of the WHO with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.17723728]

>>17723701
anxiety

[Anonymous No.17723729]

>>17723545
>>17723549
>>17723551
>>17723565
>>17723614
Simple analysis:

>-5% yesterday means increased likelihood of buying the next day (remember Monday into Tuesday)
>Fed increased repo to 200 billion, this will be first day we see it
>Airlines have already fallen 50%, this has been priced in since Monday
>Trump announced stimulus for small businesses
>Trump already met with Airlines (bailout imminent)
>Trump met with banks yesterday, Banks move the market and they will steal your money so fast you wont even know it
>/biz/ is circle jerking and doom posting, maximum retard
>We've already dropped 20% from ATH yet company fundamentals are still the same, we are closer to the bottom and it will come faster than people think
>Oil is fucked though, short that shit to the ground lmao

I'm not saying to be bullish, I'm warning people things might not go as they think tomorrow. Prepare for another Monday drop, thats the next big one.

[Anonymous No.17723742]

>>17723715
trump's terrible speech JUSTed every market.

ASX was actually up 1.5%, now down -7.3%

[Anonymous No.17723745]

>>17723578
You would think the 737 MAX disaster would have hurt them more than it actually did.

[Anonymous No.17723746]

>>17723701
Complacency possibly sliding into anxiety.

[Anonymous No.17723747]

>>17723715
Ugly girls really do play up the indie shit to cover up their deformed faces

[Anonymous No.17723752]

>>17723621
Uh, Buy a shitload of GUSH, oil will eventually go back up. Otherwise play with some inverse ETFs.

[Anonymous No.17723754]

>>17723662
It's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to admit it's there, yeah.

[Anonymous No.17723755]

>>17723727
Wow. This comment shows me how clueless some people are. They have no idea as to what's actually going on in the world. This is going to get allot worse then it is now because I'm sure they're are a million other morons like him out there that think the same way

[Anonymous No.17723760]

>>17723729
>-5% yesterday means increased likelihood of buying the next day (remember Monday into Tuesday)
>bruh stock go down, that mean now they go up!!!
Also the idea that dropping 20% is even close to the bottom is ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.17723764]

>>17723124
unironically pumping hard tomorrow, you stupud bear idiot
Boomers will be sitting at home and will jump at the chance to buy up these cheapies

[Anonymous No.17723773]

What does this giant repo mean? Could we actually end green? Outlook for friday?

[Anonymous No.17723774]

>>17723679
Without the proper tools and understanding, what you seek to create may not be within your grasp.

The ones that do know how to consistently make money likely will not share it as that is highly valuable. You may find destruction in the lack of understanding, knowledge, and insight.

[Anonymous No.17723779]

>>17723752
DO NOT FUCKING BUY GUSH YOU RETARDS!!!
They already announced a 40 to 1 reverse split. Oil is beyond fucked, Russia is doing this with the intent of bankrupting US oil companies (and they will succeed).

[Anonymous No.17723780]

anyone got a good realtime COVID stats website i can peep

[Anonymous No.17723782]

>>17723729
>Trump announced stimulus for small businesses
but not enough, this IS the market reaction to that exact announcement since it was a part of his speech.
>Trump already met with Airlines (bailout imminent)
and? the airlines are saved therefore the whole market is saved?

look I'm in agreeance that it's not guaranteed we go down -50% or something, but you're crazy to think tomorrow will be green, avalanche of bad news so far and the "good" news was trumps speech, which went down like a wet fart in church

[Anonymous No.17723787]

>>17723745
i think every major aircraft manufacturer at some point in time has had to deal with backlash due to a design flaw which went unseen till it killed some people. theyll bounce back.

[Anonymous No.17723788]

>>17723048
I'm buying the dip once it goes below 24K maybe.

[Anonymous No.17723796]

Someone explain me this options chart

How am I in the green (making profit) before the option hits its strike price or break-even price? Can someone explain this? I thought you only start make money when it hits $95 but it looks like I'm making money if it dropped down to $117 tomorrow?


PLS HALP

[Anonymous No.17723797]

>>17723788
Nigga it’s been below 23K for a long time now

[Anonymous No.17723799]

>>17723673
sorry, I fucked up the resolution

[Anonymous No.17723800]

>>17723779
I honestly doubt they will, the US gov is vested in maintaining domestic oil production and has a much more diverse economy than the russians or saudis to back it up. They tried this game of chicken before and blinked. It's gonna fucking hurt while it's down though

[Anonymous No.17723801]

Reminder this is all happening because Chinese people INSIST ON EATING THIS ENDANGERED ANIMAL. Unfuckingbelievable. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM??????
THEY ARE GOING TO GET FUCKED LONG AND HARD FOR CAUSING THIS SHIT.
SCREENSHOT THIS: CHINA IS FUCKING ***DONE***
NO SUPERPOWER
GREAT FUCKING SHAME
just a decade ago it was racist to say they ate dogs now everyone fucking knows they skin and boil them alive and they have fucking markets full of endangered fucking PANGOLINS. AND NOW HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS ARE GOING TO DIE FOR IT!!!!!! YOUR GRANDMA IS GOING TO DIE BECAUSE THE CHINESE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL AND EAT EVERYTHING THEY SEE.

[Anonymous No.17723803]

>>17723679
>>17723703
>The odds of success aren't random

You say that, but people have made the case that, for some hedge funds, their 'success' is simply luck and survivorship bias. If you just had a bunch of hedge funds making random trades, almost all would go bust, but some would be hugely successful purely by chance.

[Anonymous No.17723804]

>>17723780
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html was better before they made the results for us into state-wide rather than city/county level

[Anonymous No.17723806]

>>17723796
It's too late for you

[Anonymous No.17723810]

>>17723788
we're under 23k...
right now

[Anonymous No.17723811]

>>17723780
Literally the CDC

[Anonymous No.17723817]

>>17723026
Toilet Paper Stocks
Airlines Stocks
Personal Hygiene Stocks

[Anonymous No.17723818]

>>17723780
https://worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.corona.help/
https://nothingburger.today/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgylp3Td1Bw

[Anonymous No.17723820]

>>17723460
>Let's say nobody locks down until people are dying in hospital hallways without care. If it takes an average of 16 days (I heard 12-17? Can't remember which) to die, then people don't notice the overflow deaths till 16 days after they were infected.
>I.e., instead of locking down at 500k, people finally panic and lock down at 550k plus 16 days. That's 4 doubling periods... Total infected = 550k * 16 = 8.8m
Btw, this is what I'm afraid of

Italy did not lock down the whole country till people started dying in hallways.

Even so, they only *just now* closed everything but essential stuff like grocery stores. So they were STILL HOLDING BACK.

You look at a place like NYC, I think it was nyt or WaPo, they said NYC won't shut down public schools because poor parents need those to act as their childcare during the day.

Governments don't want to sacrifice and endure the pain of a hard shutdown unless they absolutely have to, and that makes me fear that effective lockdowns will not be enacted until AFTER they see people dying in hallways without care, which may not happen until 2-3 weeks after those people were infected.

If they don't lockdown till 2-3 weeks after the first of the unlucky 20% get infected, then they're allowing 2-3 weeks of exponential growth of more 20%ers.

There are probably gonna be governments who wait this long.

[Anonymous No.17723821]

>>17723788
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.17723822]

I was hoping AMD would get below 40 already but the fucker stayed in the green somehow.

[Anonymous No.17723824]

>>17723742
holy shit, i had to check
>that slope straight into the ground starting right into Trump's address

[Anonymous No.17723827]

>>17723801
Bluepilled faggot doesn't know about the stolen biolab samples.

[Anonymous No.17723829]

Is it a bad idea to go neeting now?

t. thinking about quitting job but not so sure now

[2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.17723830]

>>17723747
>Facts.
Shit.
I still want to bang her tho

[Anonymous No.17723831]

>>17723804
i can't find the one i was looking at the other day but it was us-specific and had results by state, orange map.

[Anonymous No.17723837]

>>17723803
2% of funds consistently outperform the market, year after year. If you want to call it luck, fine, but if they're going to manage to do it for decades at a time I'd gladly buy into their luck.

[Anonymous No.17723844]

>>17723729
I understand, and I appreciate it, and I can say for 99.999% of my trading life this would be sound advice. But this is the .0001% of the time where even I am truly beginning to be concerned. I sure as hell won't give any info away, but I'm in logistics for a very large publicly traded company
> Cough L Brands cough
I got pulled into a surprise meeting 2 days ago to discuss significant issues which are already surfacing in our supply chains, which if only 1 side being from China I'd say well duh, but we are already seeing significant issues on the domestic side. We rely on trucking companies to actually deliver to the stores. Several have already indicated serious issues regarding completing deliveries, both on time, and at all. Several have already laid off good portions of their driving staff, as they are positioned near ports and major international airports; There is nothing coming in the ports. As far as our orders from China, we are missing entire POs worth tens of thousands from manufacturers, short POs, completely wrong POs, and in one instance apparently an entirely empty ocean container that was to be full. I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel for any sector, but anything related to port or international shipping is fucked.

[Anonymous No.17723848]

>>17723662
many euro countries germany, ITALY, ect already had a negative Q4 2019, so yeah
much of auto industry has been declining in china for almost a year, and canollivirus has really fucked them up now

>>17723718
>>17723728
>>17723746
unfortunately my gut agrees, dammit i need to start selling some shit

[Anonymous No.17723849]

>>17723822
I'm exactly the same, I've got 20 $40 puts on AMD

[Anonymous No.17723858]

>>17723837
what was that thing bernie madoff got popped for?

[Anonymous No.17723864]

>>17723727
South Korea takes this shit seriously. They're really fucking good at moving fast, tracing and isolating contacts, etc. They got fucked by the bad luck a death cult member getting infected but iirc, they actually have a little more if the necessary life-saving equipment than other countries. It gives them a bigger buffer and they are competent enough to make it work.

[Anonymous No.17723866]

>>17723797
>>17723810
>>17723821
Dropping ten grand on the dip bros, wish me luck

[Anonymous No.17723871]

>>17723801
mmmm pangolin

[Anonymous No.17723872]

>>17723801
YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE YOUR JOB BECAUSE CHINESE PEOPLE NEED PANGOLIN MEAT
YOUR LOVED ONES ARE GOING TO DIE FOR CHINESE PEOPLE NEEDING PANGOLIN MEAT
YOUR ECONOMIC FUTURE WILL BE FUCKED IN EXCHANGE FOR PANGOLIN MEAT
TRUMP WILL LOSE AN ELECTION FOR PANGOLIN MEAT
TESLA WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS FOR PANGOLIN MEAT
I cannot stress this enough..... ALL OF THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT IS BECAUSE OF FUCKING PANGOLINS AND CHINESE PEOPLE EATING THEM . THEY FUCKING DID THIS. SARS WAS THE FUCKING SAME AND THEY KNEW IT AND THEY KEPT DOING IT BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING INCOMPETENT AND NOT QUALIFIED OR CAPABLE OF BECOMING A SUPER POWER. CHINA WILL ALWAYS BE SHIT. THEY'VE PEAKED LAST DECADE AND THIS IS THE END. IT'S OVER. FUCK CHINA AND GOOOOOOD RIDDANCE

[Anonymous No.17723883]

>>17723864
At least, that is how south Korea's numbers were explained to me. I never actually verified it myself.

[Anonymous No.17723888]

im reading up more into assisted breathing and no wonder so many people die from pneumonia
we literally stick a tube inside and pump air and hope for the best even though the lungs themselves have failed

[Anonymous No.17723889]

>>17723788
lad.... we're at 22,600. it went as low as 22,300.

[Anonymous No.17723890]

>>17723755
>They have no idea as to what's actually going on in the world

Anon I've been following news on the coronavirus since it was just a meme with a few cases in Wuhan. However, I'm genuinely confused how it's possible to have a virus that's putting people in hospital all over the world but which is nonexistent in the general population.

[Anonymous No.17723891]

and it's back at -4%

retards

[Anonymous No.17723893]

>>17723787
Hello, you called?

[Anonymous No.17723895]

>>17723866
enjoy your -25% gains

[Anonymous No.17723897]

>>17723091
Can I hire Instacart to pick it up for me or what?

[Anonymous No.17723899]

>>Airlines have already fallen 50%, this has been priced in since Monday

>>Trump already met with Airlines (bailout imminent)

Why would a single Democrat vote for an airline bailout?

[Anonymous No.17723900]

>>17723806
Just explain anon, please. You were a noob once too.

[Anonymous No.17723908]

>>17723891
t.

[Anonymous No.17723910]

>>17723742
I heard it on CNBC this morning and yesterday, the market has entirely lost faith in not only the administration, but the FED as well. I see that as being true despite being on CNBC. Everything he's done has been a fucking laughable response to what's happening. The worst part is, he fucking announced the payroll tax cuts, press conference totally coming tonight goys! No press conference. Guess what? Those payroll tax cuts have been priced in since yesterday thanks again to his incompetence. He truly should be working with health officials, and then working to calm the country, not worrying about fucking financial stimulus in meager amounts as a response to a pandemic.

[Anonymous No.17723920]

>>17723899
because they're all corporate shills

[Anonymous No.17723922]

>>17723899
its ok the cheap oil is going to more than compensate for the lack of flights

[Anonymous No.17723925]

>>17723890
I think the idea is that true asymptomatic cases are rare so while other viruses you'd have people who are asymptomatic, with this virus you have people who are merely asymtomatic for a long time, THEN develop symptoms.

[Anonymous No.17723928]

>tfw one step ahead of the masses every time
>waking up to another yearly salary in gains tommorow

[Anonymous No.17723929]

>>17723889
Any recommended stonks for buying the dip right now?

[Anonymous No.17723932]

>>17723890
it's because italy is further along in the pandemic than the US is

we'll see that level of stress in the hardest hit areas within a few weeks. I think the scare of the last 24 hours is enough for the US to avoid what happened with italy all over, they were very complacent as a society and most of the US is pissing itself rn

[Anonymous No.17723935]

>>17723800
The Saudis already succeeded with shale companies by using the identical strategies.

[Anonymous No.17723936]

>>17723910
the thing is, those payroll tax cuts probably aren't even happening. None of the congressional leaders want it and it's not even in the house dems pack of stimulus stuff
he's hyping up something that probably won't even happen lmao

[Anonymous No.17723938]

>>17723908
gReEn By OpEn

[Anonymous No.17723940]

>>17723796
that is not showing you all the variables, those charts assume fixed volatility

Microsoft excel is unironically best way to do this, not optionsprofitcalculator

[Anonymous No.17723947]

Should I have a put on Disney? Imagine if they close their amusement parks

[Anonymous No.17723952]

>>17723727
>>17723864
Something to remember about South Korea is they still only have 333 recovered as of right now compared to over 1,000 for Italy and nearly 3,000 for Iran, which indicates that they are much earlier in their outbreak, which means that people also haven't had as much time to get seriously ill. This disease often takes several weeks to run its course in a person.

[Anonymous No.17723953]

>>17723796
the price of a contract is modeled as a function of many variables defined by the black scholes equation. you are in the green because all the factors that influence the contract price is currently profitable for you.

[Anonymous No.17723955]

increase lung capacity
get resting BPM as low as possible

[Anonymous No.17723958]

>>17723801
> Tfw never even heard of this animal until today
> One of the coolest looking animals I've ever seen
Good stuff, fuck chinks, they're not people.

[Anonymous No.17723962]

>>17723844
Yep, supply chains are temporarily fucked, and it will trickle down, but a lot of that is (probably) priced in. Stocks go down first before business problems arise. The thing is, all the machines are still fine and will run, power and water is on, things will come back in time. For now, its going down, but I don't expect more than another 20%.
For example, planes are fine. There are no defects, no accidents, no recall, no fuel shortages, no massive storms, no shortage of flights. All that happened is people stopped flying. Its going to hurt A LOT but people will start flying again and all the planes will be just like they were before. Ultimately, nothing changed. And thats the same for a lot of industries. Its a temporary interruption causing serious issues, but its recoverable. I would not be surprised if we were back to all time highs in a year.

[Anonymous No.17723967]

>>17723947
amusement parks are basically none of their revenue

[Anonymous No.17723970]

>>17723893
lol those things had a lot of questionable incidents

[Anonymous No.17723976]

>>17723899
Are you serious? Both parties are packed with corporate shills. They've passed every single stimulus and they will pass this one too.

[Anonymous No.17723979]

>>17723967
The public don't know that, I'm thinking of the possibility of massive panic sells based off the headlines, but I dunno

[Anonymous No.17723988]

>>17723829
I got fired today and I'm not even worried about it anymore, I don't want to leave the house

[Anonymous No.17723990]

>>17723910
Yah. Things are rapidly beginning to fly off the rails. I'm white collar worker from Seattle. I was instructed to wfh two weeks ago. I'm pretty sure I won't step foot in my office again. If this thing lasts into the summer, employers are going to start shedding people.

[Anonymous No.17723996]

>>17723796
An options premium isn't much different than a share price, only with a shitload more variables at play, including all of the variables faced by a share price. You do not, and should not, hold options to expiration. Something close to 90% of all contracts expire worthless. In my opinion, with options, have a desired profit percentage in mind, and sell when you reach it, then stop watching the stock for awhile to not stress yourself out.

[Anonymous No.17723997]

so general sentiments are to sell everything right now, and buy back in when things are all lower

something from inside my market, there's a supplier for some of the tech gear we buy that's got a factory out of china, so far we're at 22,000 units on back-order because they haven't gotten anything shipped over yet

my job is 100% travel so i'm pretty sure i'm gonna be fucked in a few weeks, they're shutting down events which is part of my clients, next up will be hospitality i'm sure, stadiums, and then hospitals
i'll have no customers for a bit

[Anonymous No.17723998]

>>17723976
See: failed TARP vote

[Anonymous No.17724003]

So, uh, what's your guys plan when the market opens tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.17724004]

>>17723929
Buy Wendies and Jackinthebox stock
and if you want to be extra controversial trader buy Macys

[Anonymous No.17724008]

>>17723967
They are over a quarter of their revenue you shit head, and Disney's earning per share are 1.16$

Disney is going to plummet very soon

[Anonymous No.17724009]

>>17723910
Trump did his speech hours ago nigger. How uninformed are you?

[Anonymous No.17724010]

>>17723925

That still doesn't explain how it's spreading though. The stuff you posted said they didn't have the virus at all, not that they simply were yet to display symptoms. I get that people can spread it before they show symptoms, but testing them, even when asymptomatic, should still confirm that they actually have the virus.

[Anonymous No.17724011]

>>17724003
PUTS

[Anonymous No.17724013]

>>17723998
Dems are really petty right now anyways. I say this as someone who disagrees with trump

[Anonymous No.17724016]

>>17723998
>passed by the 110th United States Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush
????

[Anonymous No.17724017]

>>17724003
selling off my puts then waiting for the market close to see what i should buy

[Anonymous No.17724019]

>>17723936
I don't doubt that at all, but even if Congress and the administration came together and passed them tomorrow, the market would say
> So?

[Anonymous No.17724026]

>>17724003
That depends, anon. What time does the noose store open up at?

[Anonymous No.17724028]

>>17724004
Maybe Boeing just to buy the big dip

[Anonymous No.17724030]

stop being in denial
this is going to get worse

[Anonymous No.17724032]

>>17723866
holy shit are you actually this retarded?
THIS IS NOT THE BOTTOM, CORONA VIRUS IS STILL RAMPING UP

[Anonymous No.17724042]

>>17724003
Gonna sell my 650 usd worth of inverse x20 on swedish omxs30 for around 1100 usd. Pushing my gains to over 1000% in a week

[Anonymous No.17724043]

>>17723899
Bailouts are a Democrat's wet dream but they'll vote no if Trump wants it.

>>17724032
BUY LOW SELL HIGH

[Anonymous No.17724044]

>>17724009
Oh okay, so not yesterday at 1730 when he was supposed to originally speak. How did the futures market respond at the start of his speech? Oh yeah, fucking dumped red as fuck because we were expecting the speech yesterday, and it was a fucking laughable response. Thanks for proving my point for me though.

[Anonymous No.17724047]

>>17723932

I'm not really talking about the numbers infected here, I'm specifically talking about the fact that the WHO seems to claim that barely anyone in the general population seems to have coronavirus. The cases are being documented all over the world, but how can it be spreading if there's supposedly hardly anyone carrying it who isn't already in hospital?

[Anonymous No.17724049]

>>17723866
Thanks for the free money, bro.

[Anonymous No.17724050]

>>17723673
Are you me? I've been shilling this to my co-workers for months about the yield curve inversion and how overvalued stocks are to begin with. I knew when someone uploaded a side-by-side of Tesla to BTC that we were completely fucked.

I hope some anons at least made some profit off of this. I turned $500 into 20k not bad for a 20 year old zoomer.

I seriously do not understand how anybody who had been in the market for over a year did not get suspicious when everything on their watch-list was hitting ATH's and 52 Week Highs every other day.

>People need to learn to listen

[Anonymous No.17724054]

>>17724032
>-20% already
>he thinks its not priced in
>he doesn't know hes about to get raped by the banks and hedge fund managers

[Anonymous No.17724055]

>>17723866
steady in, steady out
you don't have to fully buy in or sell out of every market
be patient and let it happen
just buy in with like 5-10% of your stack ever week or so

[Anonymous No.17724056]

>>17724011
I'm thinking puts on uber and spy and maybe CCL. Anyone got others that I'm missing? I want to run this by biz to make sure I dont do anything retarded in this special opportunity

[Anonymous No.17724062]

>>17724044
>expecting the speech yesterday
>at 00:44
Big think here

[Anonymous No.17724068]

>>17723953
>>17723996
>>17723940
Thanks anons.

I'm still learning, but I still want to dip my feet in. Would it be silly to buy puts for IWM (Russel Index) at $111 strike price with March 31 expiration?

What's a strike price you would suggest?

[Anonymous No.17724078]

>>17724016
>That same day, the legislation for the bailout was put before the United States House of Representatives and failed 205–228, with one not voting. Democrats voted 140–95 in favor of the legislation, while Republicans voted 133–65 against it.
????

[Anonymous No.17724079]

>>17724016
Yeah, but try looking for the failed vote, you can do it!
>>17724028
> All the problems BA already faces
> The market fucking hates the new CEO
> The shoddy engineering issues
> The fact that this whole thing will lead to further delays in the MAX clearance
> Add to all of that internal shit, their customers are airlines
I mean it's absurdly low, but I really don't see a bottom in BA yet.

[Anonymous No.17724091]

>>17724008
How soon would you say? I'm trying to set up a good day for my put

[Anonymous No.17724092]

>>17724079
Don't forget Coronavirus anon. Airlines are tanking in general, so their suppliers are also suffering.

[Anonymous No.17724099]

>>17724062
He was supposed to have that speech yesterday at 530PM you fucking brainlet. Instead he sent Pence in to basically clear the room and tell everyone to go home.

[Anonymous No.17724101]

>>17723864
they are also physically the size of maine so its not hard to confine people to a quarantinearea, unlike sprawling nations like USA

[Anonymous No.17724102]

The gig economy won't be able to handle this at all. When daily tips and uber rides pay for peoples livelihoods, everything is already shutting down.

Pure front-end services and gig jobs over the next 2-3 weeks, including transportation as a bunch of people in this thread have already mentioned. Then contract workers will be let go weeks 4-10 after weeks of working from home. Salaried workers of hard hit industries in weeks >6 as all industries except NFLX have to tighten their belts.

[Anonymous No.17724105]

>>17724078
>>17724079
>it failed once
>but then it got passed anyway
????

[Anonymous No.17724108]

>>17724099
No one cares anon.

[Anonymous No.17724109]

>>17724026
Nooses are gonna be up in price due to demand, but I have heard only good things about toasters

[Anonymous No.17724111]

>>17724091
Place your puts in for late april/may

[Anonymous No.17724113]

>>17724068
It really depends on what you're willing to spend on a premium, your tolerance of risk, and so many factors. The absolute best advice I can give you on that is if you have to ask here, you shouldn't be trading options just yet.

[Anonymous No.17724116]

>>17723997
Buy TVIX or SQQQ, make money off these sells

[Anonymous No.17724120]

>>17724009
look at this propaganda, tell me shill, are you sponsored by a government or do you work for a network?

[Anonymous No.17724127]

>>17723955
>tfw resting bpm has been 90-100 for the past 20 years

[Anonymous No.17724132]

>>17724028
BA is a great short term buy, will def bounce to 200 within 30 days

[Anonymous No.17724134]

>>17724108
Okay anon, that's definitely not why futures started to tank at open yesterday 30 minutes after he was supposed to speak but failed to, and that's definitely not why it tanked once he started speaking tonight. It's all just surely a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.17724136]

>>17723801
bugman eat evrrysing

[Anonymous No.17724151]

>>17724120
Sounds like you know a lot about shilling anon, so where'd you get your job?

>>17724132
Indeed.

>>17724134
So what's wrong with his response, again?

[Anonymous No.17724154]

>>17724127
that's fucking terrible
run more you fat fuck

[Anonymous No.17724157]

>>17723406
Once people stop freaking out, things should be fine. If it takes one fucking virus to take out the economy, then I have no faith that it should ever be trusted.

[Anonymous No.17724159]

>>17724105
>it failed once
>vote will fail again
????

[Anonymous No.17724162]

>>17723589
too true, never all in
(But I went too far in!!!)
order me an oversold bounce, with a side of vix crush!

[Anonymous No.17724164]

Lmao it's going to be such a red day.

[Anonymous No.17724168]

>>17724132
u kno we peeping that lower band :o
i'm pretty frightened frend

[Anonymous No.17724181]

I GRABBED THE FALLING KNIFE
I'M BLEEDING OUT
FIVE YEARS OF SAVINGS GONE
NOW THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DOW 12,000
I WAS GOING TO GET MARRIED THIS YEAR NOW I MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A JOB
THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T RIGHT

[Anonymous No.17724184]

>>17724151
I haven't heard it minus the Europe travel ban. The real issue like I said earlier in the thread, the market has entirely lost their faith in not only the administration, but the FED as well. It's a palpable feeling.

[Anonymous No.17724188]

>>17723589
>30 years of pennies
dang. you should hit up some more wishing wells

[Anonymous No.17724198]

>>17724181
Yeah honestly I called bottoms at 22xx on the S&P, and 195xx on the DOW, I definitely feel as though my dow pick is too high.

[Anonymous No.17724203]

>>17724154
I'm not fat. Probably an undiagnosed heart defect or some bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17724210]

[Anonymous No.17724213]

>>17724050
Hi there. Not him but I found your post interesting. I also found a somewhat similar sentiment after running various analyses on different sectors, economic modelling, etc. Right now I have come to the issue of not finding where to extract value from. I do have some post earnings puts on USB (considerable exposure to loan/consumer debt markets) but it's hard to say or place confidence in much else. What is your outlook for the coming 2 weeks?

[Anonymous No.17724216]

>>17724164
A RED DAY
A BLOOD DAY

[Anonymous No.17724220]

>>17724113
It's $224. I'm willing to swallow it, but I guess I need to study more...just don't want to lose out on this opportunity

[Anonymous No.17724223]

>>17723742
wtf can he say to change literally anything? sometimes the truth is just not good for markets. you fuckers are blaming the farmer when the cow cant produce milk. well the cow aint right shes old dry cow with no milk, not the farmers fault, how about blame those fucking bugman or the niggers of asia, the Russian. its their fault we are in the red. besides, how long did you stupid fucks think the market would last with almost triple value stocks? plese jump

[Anonymous No.17724225]

>>17723788
I'm a newfag to stonks, but it seems to me like this is one of those cases where it's better to buy the dip too late than risk buying it too early. To point: We don't yet know just how bad the virus situation is going to get. If other first world countries get as bad as Italy, which I think is likely in the coming weeks, we won't see bottom for a bit. If NYC or Seattle go full Lombardy, you're gonna see some shit.

[Anonymous No.17724230]

Just got back from dinner with my mother. Do we have some lovely green candles bullbros?

[Anonymous No.17724238]

>>17724184
The market hasn't had faith in the Fed since when, again? The interest rate debacle? Or before then? Either way, the fact you don't know that it hasn't had faith in them to start is showing.

>>17724225
Do as you please.

[Anonymous No.17724245]

>>17724230
I mean kind of, futures didn't appear to limit down to me

[Anonymous No.17724246]

>>17724168
Any updates from mama? that podcast was very informative. And My elder relatives are in oakland where they let off the boat people! Ugh.

BA won't die. But VIAC, now that they cancelled the NBA... How the fuck did I not see that coming?!

OH SHIT ESPN!!!
I should... probs sell my last DIS and grab some puttputts, better check the chart

>>17724225
>Trump
>The truth
you didn't listen to the speech.

[Anonymous No.17724249]

>>17724220
I don't blame you, and entered my put position on it today, but I went absurdly OTM just to take advantage of the volatility, I'll be exiting it tomorrow or Friday.

[Anonymous No.17724250]

>>17724230

just invert your chart bro

[Anonymous No.17724251]

>>17724198
We won't stop falling until Dow 16k at minimum

[Anonymous No.17724252]

>>17724223

this is your brain on pol

be smart and vote bernie, then make money with puts

[Anonymous No.17724254]

>>17724162
if the spx actually goes below the band Ill let you know and you should take out a loan and go all in, no larp
>>17724168
its 2 segments below, which is retard tier, Ill buy tommrow with full confidence and sell the 10+% bounce

[Anonymous No.17724261]

>>17724223
>IT'S NOT TRUMPS FAULT THE MARKET IS DOWN
>markets were doing okay/meh until trumps speech at which point they plummeted
unironic cope alert

[Anonymous No.17724263]

Has the market priced-in the guaranteed Biden presidency yet?
Zero chance Trump is reelected after this, doesn't matter whose fault it is, he will get the blame and lose.

[Anonymous No.17724264]

>>17724238
Okay anon, I'll just give you your same advice and tell you to go long on everything, can you just post your positions so we can laugh and think of you while we watch the market tank?

[Anonymous No.17724265]

>>17724132
they have been cooking their numbers for years, maybe decades

even without 2020 crash in the background, BA would still be suffering massively right now

then again, have they cut their dividend yet? i think it was getting high before I sold it...

[Anonymous No.17724274]

Looks like tomorrow will be yet another day to buy cheap and safe stocks for an easy 400% gain at the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.17724273]

>>17724254
oooooo please do
I'll have to research how trump got out of his bad denbts just in case

[Anonymous No.17724280]

>>17724213
I'm holding puts on Tesla and (LVS). I cannot determine exactly how the markets will move in the next two weeks, but I am certain that after companies start to announce earnings, these stocks will fall further.

There are plenty other examples out there, but this is no-where near the end of this dip, this will carry out for months before it is "priced-in."

The storm that has brewed is so perfect, it does not seem real.

[Anonymous No.17724288]

>>17724230
Nope. Bear flag. Futures did not like the EU travel ban news.

[Anonymous No.17724292]

>>17724263
Neither Biden nor Trump will last the year. They're both old farts and when they get infected (guaranteed with all the campaigning they are and will be doing) they're fucking dead meat.

[Anonymous No.17724293]

>>17724264
Unironically will post my losses if it tanks more

Actually I'm not sure if I'd even post gainz later, just because it's funnier that way.

[Anonymous No.17724298]

>>17724254
you kept an eye on natty?
I don't know how elastic the demand is, but the supply is fucked if Putin puts the frackers out of business and they stop mining the permian.

[Anonymous No.17724299]

n-new....
botched thread....

>>17724284

>>17724284

>>17724284

>>17724284

[Anonymous No.17724308]

>>17724246
just got off the phone with her, nothing really to report. She said virus's survival time on various surfaces has been confirmed, lives for about 2.5 days on metal/plastic, 1 day on paper/cardboard, survives about 12 hours in the air. Sounds scary but it actually dies faster than flu. She reminded me to use hand sanny constantly, but really there's not much that'll protect you if you're in a public place.
She's stressed out because there's talk of a nurse's strike, they're pissed they aren't using the same extreme protocols used for ebola but that's simply unfeasible. Same estimates of community attack rate stand, everyone's gonna get this thing.
Expressed shock over Italy numbers, especially compared to South Korea and Japan. Said they're considering telling students/faculty in Japan to stay put, they're better off there than here. Unsure what's going so wrong in Italy.
Very, VERY relieved that she's been told to work from home as of today though. Too many doctors dying in Italy and Iran.

[Anonymous No.17724310]

>>17724263
This might help Bernie, most Democrats agree with his policies but are worried about electability. If Trump is so fucked that even a corpse could beat him Bernie could win.

[Anonymous No.17724311]

>>17724265
yeah Ive never agreed with it as a hodl but right now as a short term trade I think its high probability for a big bounce

[Anonymous No.17724345]

>>17724293
You haven't even posted your positions, or I didn't see them and don't care enough to look for. Don't worry about it, when the market opens -4%+, I'll know you lost money.

[Anonymous No.17724351]

>>17724249
Is another 12 percent drop in the Russel Index ludicrous? I feel like it's pretty likely to happen by the end of this month.

Do you recommend a higher strike price at all? It's at $125 rn

[Anonymous No.17724361]

so wat now

[Anonymous No.17724363]

>>17724311
Personally I'm gonna wait for it to get closer to 175, then go in some reallllly far out 1 year+ expiration OTM calls.

[Anonymous No.17724376]

>>17723673
1929 wasn't a recession it was a depression. the fed took money out of the economy foolishly. completely different than a recession and 2020 is COMPLETELY different than any other recession as it is not because of a sick economy, low jobs, or a bubble, this is an entirely new type of recession, purely man made and political. china fucked us on purpose. the fake nes has scared the fuck out of the masses causing the steep sell offs. if the reporting was based purely on facts, there would be literally no reason to panic see, call off work, stop running factories. you stupid fucking assholes, corona virus is a flu. it kills sick people and old people with pneumonia like literally the flu always has. but of course reee drupmtf!!!!

[Anonymous No.17724406]

>>17724252
pol has nothing to do with anything bra, personally I just prefer honest people over mouth breathing life long politicians

[Anonymous No.17724409]

>>17724351
I don't know, price targets are dangerous in my opinion and not a big part of my strategy. I watch volatility, buy puts or calls depending on the way it's moving, and go a month plus OTM in general. Then, I usually sell about a week or 2 before expiry, or the moment I see significant theta decay in my premium get to an unreasonable degree. Here's my absurd position bought today for lulz because I realized I hadn't shorted them. This one I will definitely not hold over the weekend because the theta decay will likely kill my gains. But since I will, it'll actually turn in the money 2 minutes after open on Monday. So, maybe I'll hold actually, really didn't put much thought into this one.

[Anonymous No.17724436]

>>17724409
Forgot pic related

[Anonymous No.17724443]

>>17724261
please, oh mighty double digit iq biz overlords, give example of what could be said that would turn the market green tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.17724453]

>>17724376
>just a flu bro

[Anonymous No.17724465]

>>17724443
>and here's our new Housing and Urban Development Secretary Andrew Yang to explain our very big, very beautiful Freedom Dividend

[Anonymous No.17724471]

>>17724004
>Wendies
consider not buying things you don't even know to spell.

>>17723929
look for companies that are at 5% or more yield right now and that haven't lowered their dividends in many years

[Anonymous No.17724495]

>>17724453
>15%
>bubonic plague80%
WERE ALL GOING OFF THE GRID BRO BUY ALL THE TOILET PAPER LERN TO HUNT

[Anonymous No.17724516]

>>17724453

While beervirus is definitely worse than the flu, you have to take into account the fact that the mortality rate for flu is based on a mathematical model to estimate the total number of cases (as most people don't require medical attention/get tested), but for COVID the numbers are only based on confirmed cases.

[Anonymous No.17724535]

>>17724516
your logic is going to be waaay to complicated for simple minded herd animals who get their talking points from leddit and rachael maddow anon

[Anonymous No.17724560]

>>17724376
>no reason to panic sell
we sold because if people need to stay at home production goes down and so does the economy. it's better to have money to buy cheap than to wait just to get back what you lost.

>like literally the flu always has
you realize that if people had been infected by the flu instead of corona around 20 people would have died at most instead of 4600? if everybody were as dumb as you and just went to work, ignoring this thing, that's when we'd have a real problem with overcrowded hospitals. people with other ailments wouldn't be able to get treatment either, causing further deaths. people comparing this to the flu are dumb fucks that can't think longer than their nose.

[Anonymous No.17724577]

>>17724535
oh you're still here, good. then maybe you'll read my previous post, you dumb fuck. hope you get corona and infect your whole family so your mom and dad dies at minimum.

[Anonymous No.17724622]

>>17724560
the people that die are people who already don't work, most of them in a nursing home here in the u.s. you realize that we don't know anywhere close to the number of people that have been infected since December and your numbers are in no way reflective of reality right genius? you could have already had the flu in febuary and never even known you had corona
all flu viruses are covid, dumb nigger fuckass

[Anonymous No.17724635]

>>17724495
Are "the flu" and "a complete collapse of society" the only two things you're capable of understanding? You know there's like, a massive spectrum in the middle where pretty much all diseases fall, right?

[Anonymous No.17724643]

>>17724577
I already had it and I did not die I was sick for a week. not a scared little chimp hiding in my moms basement doomposting because I hate my life

[Anonymous No.17724653]

>>17724635
I agree so why is the market acting as if the latter were true?
why are incels doomposting corona chan and memeing "its just a flu bro" to death?

[Anonymous No.17724655]

>>17724453
> Only ages that matter to economy under 1.5% death rate
But it literally is tho.

[Anonymous No.17724658]

>>17724622
dumb fuck, if nobody reacts now when it's fucking early shit will get serious. we have to prevent spreading.

>>17724643
you or me aren't the issue, you're so fucking stupid. it pisses me off something fierce, holy shit you're so fucking retarded god damn.

[Anonymous No.17724661]

>>17724622
>all flu viruses are covid
What did mean by this?

[Anonymous No.17724684]

>>17724658
acting<over reacting
you know theres like an entire spectrum in between right dumbass?

[Anonymous No.17724692]

>>17724643
>>17724622
>>17724535
>>17724495
>>17724443
>>17724406
>>17724376
>>17724223
>>17724653
imagine waking up every morning and being this faggot

[Anonymous No.17724724]

>>17724684
Yes. South Korea acted promptly and effectively. Italy did not. Feel free to compare the mortality rates yourself. We know you haven't actually done any actual research beyond what Fox News told you though, because you think dumbass things like flus being coronaviruses (they aren't, retard, they're influenza, it's in-flu-the-fucking-nameza)

[Anonymous No.17724726]

>>17724692
I notice the main characteristic of 4chan is the level of projection.

[Anonymous No.17724736]

>>17724684
take the numbers in >>17724453 and apply to your whole country, the whole world. that's what you want with people not taking this seriously and walking around outside without hazmat suits like nothing is going on. you're so fucking dumb, holy shit. it's like talking to a brick wall, you fucking dense motherfucker can't even understand why it's important to overreact early in a pandemic, you stupid little shit.

[Anonymous No.17724744]

>>17724724
my my what a lovely echo chamber we have here. im sorry to disturb the pretty little bubble you all live in. I should've agreed with everybody elses opinion then I wouldn't of gotten btfo'd. im such a bad lil goy

[Anonymous No.17724748]

>>17724726
>everyone one 4chan projects except me
>everyone on 4chan is a basement dweller except me
consistency is key to a healthy life

[Anonymous No.17724793]

>>17724744
You didn't address literally anything I said, namely
>You're a fucking retard who doesn't know what COVID even stands for
>You haven't done literally any research of your own and it shows
>Even surface level research shows a quick and high level of response is warranted and improves outcomes dramatically
You can't respond to LITERALLY ANY of that, all you do is bitch about projection while shining like a fucking IMAX. You got BTFO because you took retarded /pol/ hot takes to a math based general.

[Anonymous No.17724810]

>>17724736
pandemic isnt synonymous with mass death. oh are we afraid to get sick now? I really should give fuck all about boomers dying when my generation wont even get SS because these fucks voted our futures into the ground?
2 Bushes and Im really going to give a fuck about 15% TOPS mortality rate. holy fuck you estrogenic induced jelly bean. scared little sheep. bahhh

[Anonymous No.17724824]

>>17724810
are you an actual nigger?

[Anonymous No.17724828]

>>17724793
why in the fuck would I really spend time googling covid? out of fear? no thanks. I have far more important things to learn. enjoy wasting your time on that because cnn told you to

[Anonymous No.17724844]

>>17724824
ill tell you if you admit you have man boobs. be honest. lets compare chests, if you don't have man tits I will paypal you 100 dollars. lets go lets ee who the nigger is

[Anonymous No.17724849]

>>17724828
>why would I do even CURSORY research? I can't even look up the words I spout, but Fox told me I'm right!

[Anonymous No.17724864]

>>17724310
Would hope so. We all know how the market would react. Honestly I dont care if a dead dog is pres. If its making me print money then that's cool

[Anonymous No.17724930]

>>17724844
Goofy, you're on thin ice right now. You've already embarrassed yourself a good amount, it might be time to take your ball and go home

[Anonymous No.17724932]

>>17724844
dumb fuck, hope you infect your parents with corona. since it's just a game and all.

[Anonymous No.17724984]

>>17724932
>>17724930
the best part is, this is an anonomous image board, why would I ever ever really care what anyone here thinks?
do (you)?

[Anonymous No.17725005]

>>17724310
George W Bush the most retarded embarrassing potus of my lifetime gets re elected and Trump cant?
holy fuck you bitches weren't even alive were you?
you kids think you know shit but your perspectives are so limited

[Anonymous No.17725031]

>>17724984
my dog sometimes farts

[Anonymous No.17725060]

>>17724932
>>17724930
>>17724864
>>17724849
>>17724793
>>17724748
wheres the panic from heart disease? guis?

[Anonymous No.17725095]

>>17725060
pee pee poo poo

[Anonymous No.17725172]

>>17725060
see
>>17724793
if you can't even google the things you argue about there's literally no reason to argue, you're just a retard