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>closed at a historic loss of -2000 yesterday (23,850)
>surpassed the 25,000 mark by 18 points today

Who do they think they're fooling?
Post your predictions for tomorrow here.

>> No.17697873
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>>17697864
STOP NOTICING GOY

>> No.17697877

>>17697864
Lmao theyre so desperate. At best i dca a little every few weeks. But i sure as heck aint going all in at all.

>> No.17697893

>>17697864
What a fucking paper tiger this market is. Tomorrow the S&P will be down at least 4% is my guess.

>> No.17697900

>>17697864
>Coronachan cases double or triple bc we can now do a marginal amount of further testing
>People realize we have a serious outbreak in the USA
>Market dumps
>Trump and co. try to do triage
>Dems realize this is their chance to take the election
>Dems start giving real statistics & create useful fear
>Market plummets to oblivion
>Coronachans natural course fades almost completely by election
>People still salty over Trump lying to them and destroying the economy
>Biden takes over and we do nothing for 4 years

>> No.17697935

>>17697864
thread is being slid by the shills super hard
have a bump

>> No.17697947

>>17697935
thanks

>> No.17697951

>>17697864
Even yesterday when they were injecting constant cashflow, you could tell because it would be a huge jump out of nowhere and it was getting eaten up pretty quick. It's obvious at this point, the human race is ready to enter a new paradigm free of kike debt slavery. (((they))) know its over very soon.

>> No.17698028 [DELETED] 

>>17697893
Lol just a little news about corona virus and it goes down. Also i think more news will be coming out of california in about 12 hours time.

>> No.17698083

>tfw thousand point swings are the new normal now

>> No.17698204

>>17697864
The Greatest Depression has yet to come

>> No.17698282

Very disappointed, was hoping for a proper freefall. I can only hope today was a shill cat bounce.

>> No.17698317

tomorrow:
down 1.5-2% across all US indices
DAX down another 2-3%
CAC down 2.5-4%

>> No.17698470

>>17697864
What are you talking about? The Chinese market tanked and they shut off the sells and artifically pumped it

>> No.17698559

>>17697900
/thread

>> No.17698614

>>17697864
Can someone tell me how to make money off a doomed market? Im thinking of buying SPXS or SQQQ or buying puts with DIA or SPY. Any advise what I should do? If I get puts what Exp should I aim for?

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>>17697873
fp allcaps angry jew needs to become a new Greater Depression meme

>> No.17698660

4% price swing, how many days has been?

>> No.17698798

>>17697893
The idea of a peper tiger is that once it falls it does not get back up. We just had the biggest single day loss in all of history to the point where there were stickies on /biz/ and /pol/, the nation of Italy has collapsed, and the market recovered in a matter of hours. Not 8 years. Not 16 quarters. Not 35 weeks. 40 hours.

>> No.17698813

>>17697864
they need to stop, instead of adding fuel to the fire they need to mitigate the fucking damage

>> No.17698820
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>>17698798
So what does it mean? Bull market?

>> No.17698834

>>17697900
Biden is too incompetent to win, Trump atleast won people over in the debates. Biden literally has dementia, he isn't winning shit.

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>>17697864
Dow futures is down again so the fed is trying to kick the can down the road but is failing miserably at keeping the "mm muh market correction". Boomers are going down and I dont feel the bit sorry for them.

>> No.17698880

>>17698820
High instability due to circumstances but under that is an economy strong enoigh to shoulder the weight. Hercules weighed down by a boulder.

That said US elections are coming up and if Democrats win expect them to squander future economic growth on stupid social programs in a dumb attempt to secure votes again and fuck over the domestic market.

>> No.17698884

>>17698847
You will since crypto is now linked to the market for some odd reason

>> No.17698925

>>17698884
>for some odd reason
Stocks are not linked to buisinesses performance.
Both stock values and crypto values are connected only to investor confidence.

>> No.17698935

>>17698798
It’s a Frankenstein market now, as always. Average goy by now knows it’s all fake and they should get out into cash.

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Check em

>> No.17698973

>>17698935
Stocks is a numbers game that people play to make the numbers big, but cashing out doesnt prevent other people from continuing to play and continuing to devalue your cash. The best bet is to play yourself in order to keep up with inflation.

>> No.17698980

>”free market” crapitalism
As soon as mah shtoncks goes down a few percentage points they halt the market so it doesn’t collapse.
What a great free system we have. I can’t believe people aren’t more angered by this and still haven’t pulled the curtain back. TSX is such a fucking joke I can’t believe Canadians willingly put their money into Canadian company stocks with all those selling halts they’ve done in the past week so we don’t go into a depression. Btw it looks like Canada is the most exposed out of all first world nations. Fuck this country.

>> No.17698998

>>17698973
Maybe that was true between 2009-2014 when QE was in effect and everything artificially pumped but it’s clearly not the case right now. I don’t believe Dow Jones will hit past 30k and everybody is going to cash out.

>> No.17699035

>>17698980
Atleast you have muh free healthcare

>> No.17699036

>>17698798
At least 13% of companies globally are zombies (annual interest on debt >= annual earnings).

Just because money is being injected doesn't mean its going anywhere.

>> No.17699082

>>17699035
Likely scenario is that when we default on our debt we forever become a third world nation and lose our free healthcare unless we exploit to oblivion our almost untouched natural resources and not give a shit about the natives but then i believe the natives will become insurgents and start waging war against mountiees and then the army.

>> No.17699088

>>17698880
Lol, imagine being this fucking retarded and posting you .002 cents

>> No.17699159

>>17698880
>strong economy
>when a single big bankruptcy would destroy the entire market
2008 never finished.

>> No.17699178

>>17699082
>i believe the natives will become insurgents and start waging war against mountiees and then the army.
Don't the natives believe in peace and stuff?

>> No.17699215

>>17699159
right.

at a certain point it would be better for us (Democrats) to step in and pop the bubbled in as much of a controlled fashion as we can, rather than let Republicans let this continue like it has and let it wreck itself. a switch to Democrat is like a political cashing out, which is what needs to be done to preserve our "gains" /opinion

>> No.17699258

>>17699215
You can shove your gun bans and anti-white agenda up your ass cuck

>> No.17699338

>>17699215
holy shit its glowing

>> No.17699355

>>17699215
The bubble formed under Obama, with all those years of zero interest, tard.

>> No.17699528

>>17699215
I don't know how you retards are consistently wrong on economics especially and still have people vote for you. Probably the gibs.

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>>17699258
>>17699338
>>17699355

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>>17699554
How them delegates working out?

>> No.17699606

>>17699566
>delegates
???

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>>17699606
Are you serious? THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF COMMIES

>> No.17699639

>>17697864
Big pump to 27300 followed by a legendary dive down to 22000

>> No.17699685

>>17699606
Crash and Bern, the commie crypt keeper is cucked again. No nomination. And he won't fight it

>> No.17699691

>>17699636
look i liked Andrew Yang for president, okay? im not happy about any of this anymore, but im probably gonna vote #freestuff2020 because i expect to be in accumulation for the next 15-20 years anyways, am i so wrong?

>> No.17699738

>>17699691
Then get off of /biz/ and go hang out at /r9k/ faggot

>> No.17699747

>>17697864
Invest in physical gold and silver

>> No.17699795

>>17699215
>Democrats created the 2008 housing crisis
>Democrats created massive welfare and unsustainable debt
>What we need to do is let the Democrats fix it
The sooner you traitors all fucking die, the sooner we can actually fix this country. You make the world fucking sick.

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bros, is there gonna be a recession??? i want a recession reaaal bad.

>> No.17699912

>>17699795
But Democrats weren't in power at the time? I'm so confused.

>> No.17699931

Literally load the fuck up on SQQQ

This is free fucking money.

>> No.17699992
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The entire stock market and economy is a huge con. The Fed has been printing money nonstop for a decade to keep the literal Everything Bubble inflated. It was the only way they could mask the mortal wounds in the global economic system in 2008. However, had we let the whole system fail in 2008 we may have had a 1929 style depression that we'd probably be out of by now, but because the corps and 1% refuse to lose, we are now on an atomic bomb that if ignited by one of the major markets collapsing would literally destroy the economy and probably western civilization. Everything from buying groceries to some mega corporation leveraging billions in debt is tied to it, and without the low interest rates and QE the system literally fails.

Stock up on water, food, gold, silver, and guns because when, not if, it collapses the US and half the world are going to be hitting the hard reset button. The insane loses and gains in the market are signs that their strategy is finally starting to fail and they're out of options when it does.

>> No.17700119

>>17697900
>>Coronachans natural course fades almost completely by election
That is were you are wrong anon, corona won't go away for at least 2 years

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>>17698880
This guy gets it, I hope you hold link anon, you deserve it.

>> No.17700224

>>17698614
All in physical gold and silver and run.

>> No.17700234

>>17699691
Jesus Christ man. Have some self respect and vote for Trump. Then go make your own fucking money like a man instead of holding your hand out for a free banana like some retarded monkey.
You were given one life in this universe, you really intend on spending it trying to suck away the wealth created by other people's labor?

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can someone explain to a economic brainlet like myself the actual real world logistics of the fed pumping the market?
Do they make a call and transfer trillions around to banks and investment firms who then buy stocks to keep the price up? Who then owns those shares? Pls explain and pls no bully

>> No.17700458

bummmmppp

>> No.17700572

>>17699795
>the 2008 housing crisis
>>the lack of sufficient government oversight in key areas — including consumer protection,
>>private-label mortgage securitization, bank capitalization, and financial markets —
>>transformed a housing bubble into a global financial crisis.
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/reports/2017/04/13/430424/2008-housing-crisis/

>> No.17701234

bumfpf
did you also poast this on pol

>> No.17701305

>>17701234
found the newfag

>> No.17701353

It'll go up again tomorrow, then freefall

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>>17698614
You're on the right track, but don't stop there, short it all. Except GME.

>> No.17701413

>>17698798
Holy shit..you're really calling it a recovery already, when 800+ points of the 1100 your gloating about is already gone in futures? Y'know what, forget I said anything, go long everything!

>> No.17701450

>>17697864
Central planning doesn't work.

>> No.17701498

>>17700572
>government causes market bubble and crash
>what we need is more government

>> No.17701506

>>17699178
No. They're self interested like everyone else. Do you think the conquest of the americas was easy? They fought until they couldn't anymore.

>> No.17701556

If the fed is pumping. What stock should I get on?

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>>17701556
None.

>> No.17702168

>>17699082
Your a fucking idiot

>> No.17702187

>>17699795
Like lover

>> No.17702191

>>17700234
Another kike lover

>> No.17702210
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>>17697864

just let it all burn

>> No.17702236

>>17697900
This shit wont go away until theres a vaccine. It started from one strain and now has five, so I wonder if that even works

>> No.17702237

>>17701498
for some people to every problem the answer is always more government

>> No.17702269

>>17699795
>Democrats created the 2008 housing crisis
Lol I'm not even a democrat but this is the most retarded shit I think I have ever read.

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What's this pattern called

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>>17702497
A were screwed curve

>> No.17702538

>>17699215
Imagine thinking dems wont just pump the bubble, maybe a little less than trump.
Obongi did the same shit just to a lesser degree and he didnt brag about it as retardedly

>> No.17702552

>>17699795
Bush created the bubble
Obongo did bailouts
As usual natcucks are retarded

>> No.17702576

>>17699159
>2008 never finished
Wrong.
Fucking dimwitted doomfags like you spout this shit and don't even bother to check
US Banks are MUCH less levered than in 2008, nobody's doing credit default swaps anymore like they used to, the whole ratings agency got an overhaul and now they'll hardly let you borrow money unless you sign a waiver of indentured servitude for you and your next of kin
(With the exception of student and auto loans though, those are probably all in a big ass bubble)
But the banks in the US are fine, it's literally most other countries' banks we have to worry about, 'specially the fucking europoors

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>>17699795
poes law

>> No.17702783

>>17702598
weird it seems like debt increases with every presidency.
no more presidents = no more debt? we should just all not vote in this next election to reverse the national debt.

>> No.17702910

>>17702576
Interesting, I literally just watched a video of Steve Eisman saying exactly that.

>> No.17702962

>>17702529

San Diegan here....


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--

>> No.17703205

>>17699851
Stop posting you commie faggot, I notice you too often around here.

>> No.17703251

>>17698847
Yeah at this point the Fed is just trying to keep everyone's retirements together, but it's the Boomer's faults that they accepted 401ks instead of pensions and I don't care anymore.

>> No.17703287

>>17700234
You're on the board for capital gains dumbass. It's literally an entire board about sitting on your ass and profiting on other people's labor.

>> No.17703926

>>17697951
My children and I will gather all of the Jews and throw them directly into the ocean.

>> No.17704259

>>17699691
this is the power of lefty

>> No.17704368

>>17698798
FED manipulation isn't going to fix supply chain breakdown.
It's fucking over.

>> No.17704410

>>17701498
>lack of government caused the crisis
>"hey maybe applying more government oversight could fix this"
Yes

>> No.17704425

>>17702576
>But the banks in the US are fine, it's literally most other countries' banks we have to worry about, 'specially the fucking europoors
What did the europoors do?

>> No.17704461

>>17697900
Biden will get fucking Corona

>> No.17704476

Actually, WTF happens if Trump, Biden and Sanders all get corona and die?

>> No.17704483

>>17704476
Bloomberg wins

>> No.17704630

>>17702576
>US banks are fine
Meanwhile
>Wells Fargo is opening millions of fraudulent accounts
>Bank of America launders money for drug cartels

Doesn't really sound like they are doing fine.

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The official hidden /biz/ discord is discord gg 6C3nECp
It has to stay hidden or (((discord))) will shut it down.

As far as Discord knows it's a Cuckold Server dedicated to polygamous followers of Qanon who trust the plan and let black men "share" their wives.

join join

>> No.17704674

>>17704651
Dumbass

Make an image and post the image with the deets so others can save down the .png and easily reupload in other spreads, breading the good word

Jeez, so many n00bs on the Nipponet these days

I actually remember m007 stickies, u kindergarten!

>> No.17704680

>>17697900
>everything in the world is about the orange kike from an increasingly irrelevant country
Burgers are truly the biggest retards on earth.

>> No.17704684

>>17704630
All banks launder money. Some even knowingly let customers pay for CP in the open and get away with it.
Banks are immune from the law.

>> No.17704700

AUS is down, even with our announced stimulus package won't do anything at all.

As long as the cornovirus is here our infection rates keep going up and the stimulus does shit all if everyone is staying indoors.

Then you have people going into their superannuation or 401k for US, people switching them from shares/mixed to all cash for their portfolio.

This is like creating a bank run, where everyone is withdrawing money from the bank and leaving them with nothing but they since this is retirement fund they removing the fund available to the superannuation pool and means business will collapse as some of our business relies on these funds to run.

We're going down hard people! If you can go into your superannuation/401k and change the portfolio to cash, you don't want to see your money wipe out.

>> No.17704726

>>17704700
>stimulus package
We're getting NEETbux again?

>> No.17704876

>>17704726

yep, we're neetbux again. Trump just pitched a $0 pay roll tax LOL!

>> No.17705846

>>17704630
> 1 bank doing some stupid shit
> Fucking years ago
That's it guys, the U.S. banks are fucked

>> No.17706147

>>17699215
>at a certain point it would be better for us (Democrats) to step in and pop the bubbled in as much of a controlled fashion as we can
that didn't work. king nigger tried that with the 0 percent with the housing collapse, and that is exactly why we are failing again. The collapse never happened that NEEDED to happen because it was propped up by more and more QE and bullshit. The fed kicked the can further and further. This was going to happen in a dramatic fashion no matter what party was in power, democraps or republicants.

>> No.17706288

>>17704476
Get the Trump clone out. He is part of the prophecy, 2 terms guaranteed but might be worse if war or some other (((national emergency))) breaks out. Presidency and elections might get suspended around 2024.

>> No.17706303 [DELETED] 

>>17704726
>>17704876
not happening. no more neetbux. king nig tried that in 2008, QE put us in the position of kicking the can down the road for this to happen "later" rather than under obama. Regardless of republicant or demoncrap, we were going to take this red dildo.
besides, trump is 100% talk, zero action. that is the only thing that ironically has worked out to his benefit, because it is the opposite of the normal accelerationism behavior of progressive liberalism.

>> No.17706329

>>17704876
>>17705846
neetbux cancelled. trump is 100% talk, zero action.

>> No.17706503

>>17698880
those stupid social programs are the only things preventing the poor from eating the rich.
sometimes i just wonder.
do any of you guys ever read history books?
because history has a habit of repeating itself.
you take away a mans bread and water and i can assure you they will raid your home take your lands your wife and assets. - guy who worked as a mercenary guarding rich fucks
and if you think a security team will protect boy do i have news for you.
when blood is in the waters that security team will smell it and trust me most human nature is not as kind as you think it is.

>> No.17706554

>>17706503
LOL

>> No.17706676

You are livestock