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17639990 No.17639990 [Reply] [Original]

>mfw I am one of less than 500 people on earth who actually understand bitcoin and its true potential
>mfw you've all been deceived by one of the most elaborate smear campaigns of our time
>mfw I understand that big blocks are going to completely change the fabric of society and make the world hyper efficient and abundant
>mfw you're all still trying to coax "institutional money" and banks into buying your bags not knowing that bitcoin at scale makes them obsolete

Have fun with your tokens, I'll just be chilling here in the future of everything

>> No.17640009

>only I have the secret knowledge to comprehend how BSV isn't a scam
fucking lol

>> No.17640041
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>>17639990
Don't think it's under 500, though. Probably in the 5,000-10,000 range.

>> No.17640164

BTC dropping like a fly. BSV/BTC actually holding up pretty good. Are we seeing the start of the flippening.

>> No.17640204

>>17640041

No, most of them are barking up the wrong tree completely

>>17640164

Could be! We've got like 2 months until halvening so a lot could happen

>> No.17640219

>>17640164
are we living in alternate reality? BSV is getting more rekt than BTC

>> No.17640259

Bsv is bitcoin full stop! Read the wp and understand how bitcoin should work. STIFF!

>> No.17640325

>>17640219
BSV is still green on the 7 days. I think this is a good sign that the market my slowly be pulling its head out of the sand. Bottom is likely in against BTC pair and there is no much selling going on, just bots following BTC. Keeping above 25-24k sats would mean reversal for the coming week/months.

Trust me you don't want to miss this once this goes bull.

>>17640204
2months is a short time. We should see decent action within a month.

>> No.17640388

imagine not buying the real bitcoin under $200

>> No.17640452

>>17640388
Still accumulating

>> No.17640508

>>17639990
>dat tripcode

PatrickBatemanImpressive.gif

>> No.17640616

>>17640259
lol

>> No.17640642
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>>17640009
>only I have the secret knowledge to comprehend how BSV isn't a scam
This but unironically

>> No.17640780

>faketoshi
Trash

>> No.17640846

>>17640780
>mfw you've all been deceived by one of the most elaborate smear campaigns of our time

>> No.17640913

>>17639990
no you are stupid and your shitcoin sucks you are not a secret genius or anything just a retard that got dumped on.

>> No.17640934

>>17640259
if you actually read the whitepaper you wouldn't spout such ridiculous bullshit.

>> No.17640982

>>17640934
Keep supporting segwit shit

>> No.17640990

>>17640934
lmao, great projection
BSV is exactly what is described in the whitepaper, whereas BTC has been rendered a dysfunctional shitcoin

>> No.17641036

>>17640990
This

>> No.17641352

>>17639990
congrats. those of us who got into crypto because the tech was new and interesting converted to BSV first. it's the better bitcoin and there really isn't any denying it. people just don't like creg and regurgitate what other people have said to them
>it's a scam!!!! reeee
it's a better bitcoin, but if we're being honest with ourselves, that might not matter. depends on whether or not blockchain ends up being useful before the hype around it dies. so far, BTC is just a commodity that is fun to trade. not sure I like the idea of a microtransaction future desu...if its done right it might make sense, but the history of tech has me cynical.

>> No.17641394

its too bad we can't discuss this shit as nerds like we used to on the old bitcoin talk forums. there's not enough nerds in the crowd anymore that are able to offer interesting opinions. biz is all newfag retards these days who don't know anything about how any of it actually works.

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>>17641394
>>17641394

Discussing it as nerds is what got us into this mess to begin with... now we are in extreme populist mode. And 2020 is an election year. We're about to see the most bizarre information war in human history play out as this thing really takes off...

Nobody is seriously preparing themselves for the possibility that BSV is going to fuck their shit up and make a lot of "experts" look like complete fools.

>> No.17641537

>>17641352
>>17641394
you are beyond clueless

>> No.17641688

>>17640990
Based

>> No.17641850

Dev here. BSV has some interesting work being done by Andresen sorry I meant unwriter but big blocks ultimately means locating it in a single data center. Doing that means CSW/Ayre can mine your coins into their wallets - so that’s a hard yikes from me

>> No.17641922

>>17640990
>BSV is exactly what is described in the whitepaper
no it's most definitely not. the whitepaper is pretty clear about how bitcoin is defined it's the longest chain with the most accumulated proof of work. this sentence makes zero sense if you allow changes to the difficulty algo from that point on you don't have bitcoin you made an other shitcoin..

>> No.17641951

>>17641352
it's not better unless you consider ad1d0s better than adidas. and it's not bitcoin either objectively can't be. sorry. time to toss away childish dreams and grow the fuck up and face reality!

>> No.17641968

>>17641850
gavin and the unwriter are on two different scale of autism.

>> No.17641974

>>17639990
Shut it bumder

>> No.17642096
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>>17641850

Except there will more likely be hundreds of thousands of large scale data centers... like Satoshi said. Big blocks will be lucrative as fuck


>Andresen sorry I meant unwriter

No

>the whitepaper is pretty clear about how bitcoin is defined it's the longest chain with the most accumulated proof of work.

Bitcoin is a chain of signatures (Segwit is not), accumulated PoW only matters when miners are on the same network mining the same blocks

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>>17641850
Greg namefagging and false flagging.

Never change retard.

>> No.17642353

>>17642096
He did his homework

>> No.17642372

BSV will not gain real value until btc drops sub $1k and then BSV can start to overtake the crypto market.

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>>17641850
>GHUg
Gmax really needs someone to comfort him, you guys

>> No.17642428

Why do big blocks change the world?

>> No.17642506

>>17641922
Its the longest chain among chains with the same rules you humongous retard.

>> No.17642515
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>>17639990
Thank you Satoshi

>> No.17642563

>>17640009
this but OP is retarded

>> No.17642605

>>17642506
but since it's not bitcoins ruleset it's not bitcoin. exactly.

>> No.17642667

>>17642605
also consider this, if the definition of bitcoin allowed minority forks to be bitcoins we would have a billion bitcoins by now... everyone would just make their own fork and insist on it being bitcoin. the nakamoto consensus takes care of it so long it's unbroken. that's our only objective definition of bitcoin. everything else is subjective. you break the nakamoto consensus and fork off with a minority chain you are an alt end of story.

>> No.17642748

>>17641537
BTC is broken or at least very fucking limited. it's incredibly inefficient. blockchain in general has some hard limits and for a long time has been a solution in search of a problem. it's getting better, but it won't unless you break out of your retarded thinking that iterations aren't necessary to improve. this is software ffs, we have take an iterative approach and continue to refine the codebase as it scales to adapt to new challenges. BTC core isn't capable of doing that anymore.

>> No.17642781

>>17641850
it was always going to end up in large data centers anon. you thought a blockchain was going to be able to take up space on a mac forever? this was one of the reasons I wrote off BTC in 2009. it had obvious scaling issues. the argument was always that we'd figure it out as we needed to. cross that bridge when we get to it.... well?

>> No.17642808

>>17642748
actually btc with ln has literally no real hard limit on tx/s. with just 2 onchain tx you can literally make billions of translations.

think outside your box sometimes! also understand the primary purpose of the bitcoin blockchain better! maybe you will understand why it doesn't have to do fucking everything just the one thing only it can do.

>> No.17642812

>>17642667
Yep bitcoin forked into segwitshitcoin. Bsv is still bitcoin

>> No.17642816

>>17642428
BTC handles like 3-4 transactions a second....that's all it's capable of. bigger blocks are needed to scale that up.

>> No.17642848

>>17639990
Then put your money where your mouth is

Needs to be the top market cap

>> No.17642977

>>17641850
>Andresen sorry I meant unwriter
two personalities literally couldn't be more different
>ultimately means locating it in a single data center
wrong, it means that all large mining operations will operate from large data centers, just like Satoshi always intended
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532#msg6306
>The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be. Those few nodes will be big server farms. The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.
>—Satoshi
there will likely be hundreds of such operations worldwide, at least one for every developed economy

>> No.17643061

>>17642977
So simple to understand once you dig in to those posts of satoshi. I don't understand people don't see btc is totally fucked up. Bsv is just doing what has to be done to scale up and lower the tx fees.

>> No.17643084

>>17643061
of course BSV is doing that, since it's actually Bitcoin and spearheaded by Satoshi himself

>> No.17643164

>>17642816
Scaling up is all well and good, but there's more to the tech than money transfer.

>> No.17643185

>>17643084
Yeah well i am not busy with who Satoshi is. I do see that bitcoin is a protocol like tcp/ip is a protocol and it should not change it into a shitty crap protocol. The protocol should be set in stone like Satoshi said. Like you don't change a car into one with 2 wheels.

>> No.17643249

>>17643164
yes, bigger blocks are needed for that too, especially now that Bitcoin (BSV) has fully functional smart contracts and all manners of computational capabilities which scale

>> No.17643251

You mongloids forget the most important part. No one cares which is the actual bitcoin. People buy bitcoin, they dont care what it does or how slow it is or what is written in a stupid 10 year old paper (where some retards probably ejaculate every day on) Normies buy btc, not something which gets delisted everywhere. You nerds can suck a big dick now

>> No.17643279

>>17642812
no it's fucking not since it's a fork of bch and that forked off of bitcoin a long time ago it couldn't even be if it tried real hard.

also segwit is absolutely brilliant and the building block of many future developments on bitcoin. taproot is an other interesting possibly revolutionary change.

>> No.17643291

>>17643084
that's two bullshit in one sentence. congrats.

>> No.17643328

>>17642808

What it can do is micropayments without any intermediary. That's what the whitepaper is all about, that's what bitcoin is. BTC cant do that.

>>17643279
>no it's fucking not since it's a fork of bch

No, it's a fork from Segwit.

>taproot is an other interesting possibly revolutionary change.

Ok, so why isnt anyone building on it or talking about it? BTC has no network effects or innovation, this is a fact. Nobody cares about LN or Taproot or any of that shit.

>> No.17643342

>>17643251
Normies are going to play e-sport games build on bitcoin. Enterprise will build on bitcoin. Real normies don't want all that techy stuff like the lightning network (which will never work). Normies want to use like they don't even know they use bitcoin.

>> No.17643355

>>17643291
Everything he said is true. Do you know how I know you are a brainlet?

>> No.17643440

>>17643342

Normies wont even have a choice, nobody will. Big blocks will consume the entire world, it will be inescapable. Nobody will care about BTC because they have a choice, same with any other crypto.

>> No.17643557

>>17643440
Yep. And even if bitcoin (bsv) will fail in the future all coins will die including btc because up until now bitcoin is superior against btc or any coin out there. It literally has no competition.

>> No.17643642

>>17643249
Why would you want a smart contract that is irreversible though?

>> No.17643701

>>17643328
>Ok, so why isnt anyone building on it or talking about it?
it's a bit new but it will come. the potentials are great.
>>17643355
if you think what he said is correct i'm sure as hell not interested in nor value your opinion.

>> No.17643815

>>17643328
btw taproot is something that could greatly benefit sv but since it's greg maxwells brainchild i think you all would rather autofellate in public then even read about it.

>> No.17643905

>>17643815
oh wait you guys just had a hard fork update that removed p2sh didn't you? never mind then...

>> No.17643951

Sage
maxi btfo

>> No.17644054

>>17643342
Sure they will. Keep believing that ,)

>> No.17644067

>>17643905
Keep adding shit, indeed we remove shit and have a stable protocol. Taproot sounds very revolutionary but when you read about it it's not.

>> No.17644268
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17644268

>>17643279
>here's the Bicycle whitepaper
>i'm going to construct it with just one wheel and no handlebars
>but I'm still going to call it a Bicycle

>> No.17644349

>>17639990
Out of all the shills that have plagued this shithole, BSV jeets are definitely top 3 most horrendous.
At least their 60yo boomer boss will get CORONA'd soon.

>> No.17644361

>>17644268
Yeah and when you find out your bike is slower than the one with 2 wheels please add all kind of different things to it with really cool names. But never just change it back to one with 2 wheels because then you're a scammer!

>> No.17644377

>>17644067
it allows for very large and complex deterministic smart contracts executed off chain to have minimal footprint on-chain while having a trustless validated output... gee i wonder how that would fit in the sv agenda...

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>>17640325
No, its not.

>> No.17644424

>>17644268
well here is the thing and i know this is shocking news but bitcoin is not a whitepaper. it never was a whitepaper it was an implementation with a ruleset a billion times more specific and included a lot of shit not in the whitepaper like script.

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>>17644349
Cope.

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>>17639990
>actually understand bitcoin
Come back when you 'actually understand' how document metadata works. Then you might have a chance of understanding what Turing complete means. And maybe, just maybe you wouldn't come across as an utter retard whose best attempt at shilling is pulling shit out of his arse.

There is simply no cure for the levels of stupidity and faggotry you've displayed. Killing yourself is the only thing you can do that would actually improve the world.

>> No.17645327

>>17645119
he was drunk and high writing that or losing it

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>>17645327
You mad cus Satoshi stylin on you and your BTC ponzi

>> No.17645875

>>17643328
>>17643701
This is something I've been wondering about too, where do the core devs post their shit? And ANYONE building on or paralel to btc? Never hear any btc news or developments on /biz/

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>>17645119
I bet it's not you complete faggot. BSV is in freefall and not one of your predictions has come true. NOT ONE.

>> No.17646160

>>17643185
Holy shit, this kind of thinking is so stupid. Bitcoin isn’t a protocol, it’s an implementation and as such should be improved upon until it meets the needs of the target market.

>> No.17646255

>>17646160
Sorry, that was harsh and I read it out of context if your referring to The addition of the lightning network or something as fucking with the protocol. I agree with the metaphor in that case.

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>>17645947
You cry like a little baby. Are you mad because your ponzi is about to be over?? Your disinfo campaign, that you dedicated your entire pathetic life to, failed massively.

Craig wins. BSV wins.

You LOSE.

>> No.17648356

>>17643642
nothing is irreversible, miners operate under law and can reverse anything with a court order, even transactions without possessing the private keys in question

>> No.17648382

>>17645947
this. i own bsv but his bullshit is starting to get annoying

>> No.17649505

>>17645875
ha