/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.17635013]

hug edition

Post comfy shit.
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>>17632277

[Anonymous No.17635032]

>>17635013
Fuck tripfags

[Anonymous No.17635035]

Thoughts on TSLA?

[Anonymous No.17635037]

whats gonna happen on monday?

[Anonymous No.17635041]

>>17635037
things

[Anonymous No.17635051]

Were did my fellow Pittsburgher go? Are we doomed due to amount of international students that live in the city?

[Anonymous No.17635056]

>>17635013
so, we've had the correction we needed. is it now time for the bloodbath or will she crab until the virus is contained?

[Anonymous No.17635068]

>>17634966 #
I said take action BEFORE inflation hits.

Your triggers for consumer sentiment or crabbing lows match mine, but what I'll really be looking for is helicopter money, serious talk of a UBI, or normalizing the yield curve (devaluing the dollar).

I think inflation will hit 10% and then quickly pass it. MMT is becoming mainstream on the left and the right because politicians can give their constituents whatever they ask for and the externalities are far enough removed that the voters can't put 2 and 2 together.

[Anonymous No.17635078]

>>17635013
dow 30k+ after trump reelection in november

[Anonymous No.17635082]

>>17635035
Overvalued by about 3x.

[Anonymous No.17635101]

my 401k is down 9% as of 2/28 what the fuck bros

[Anonymous No.17635114]

>>17635032
Fpbp
How can one anon be so based?

[Anonymous No.17635136]

>>17635035
Buy. Don't listen to boomers

[Anonymous No.17635147]

Boomers quit while you're ahead this farce of an economy has gone on long enough. The country is flooded with nonwhites and the young whites have net negative worth. This is not sustainable.

[Anonymous No.17635174]

>>17635068
Right. Do you think it will /get/ to helicopter money in this crises? (I don't, not for the plebs, and especially not if Trump is in office. Maybe money for airlines and various businesses, but for the people...I'd give that a 25% probability with Trump. Do you care to explain further your reasoning?

[Anonymous No.17635242]

Can someone explain to me why I'm bothering with target date funds in my 401k when they get completely and utterly outperformed by the S&P 500

[Anonymous No.17635273]

>>17635242
you are probably doing it because somehow you think you can do better than market average (but studies suggest you likely cannot)
Why'd you ask? Just buy some bonds and sell them in 3 months from now and then go into S&P, dow, and nasdaq etf's of your choosing.

[Anonymous No.17635274]

>>17635101
Do you plan on retiring soon? No, who cares.

[Anonymous No.17635298]

>>17635274
No, but I want to maximize my gains. My target date fund has only outperformed the S&P 500 one year out of nine, this year, and by a small margin. Why would I invest in the inferior product?
>>17635273
Because I would rather have my retirement funds in the most effective financial vehicle possible for the near/mid term.

[Anonymous No.17635303]

>>17635242
Target funds are usually the least risky investments, but they are also generally shit. You should look at its composition and its goals. Then look at other options you can use.

[Anonymous No.17635314]

>>17635298
>Why would I invest in the inferior product?
I don't know. I've never used target date junk. My 401k is 100% VOO.

[Anonymous No.17635334]

>>17635174
>Do you think it will /get/ to helicopter money in this crises?

Yes. All the QE, bond buying, stocking pumping in the world cannot force employment. And unemployment is going to be massive due to to the immediate and downstream effects of coronavirus and response.

Either leftists will come into power on the promise of UBI, or the establishment will preemptively give it away to maintain power.

[Anonymous No.17635393]

>>17635303
I get the idea of trying to diversify markets and holdings but it honestly seems pointless when it will never compare to other index funds, ETFs, or the S&P 500

[Anonymous No.17635405]

lebanon is defualting on 1.2 trillion dollars of debt.
projected to push 40% of their population below the poverty line.
short everything in the middle east shit is going to get bad for them

[Anonymous No.17635426]

>>17635242
>>17635298
>>17635393
change it then ya fkn ask-hole

[Anonymous No.17635427]

the next 3 letters in the poster below me's id will be a stock symbol that moons tomorrow. Screencap this.

[Anonymous No.17635439]

>>17635427
roll

[Anonymous No.17635457]

>>17635439
> Salzgitter AG
>13.07
>Salzgitter AG is a German company, one of the largest steel producers in Europe with an annual output of around seven million tonnes.

[Anonymous No.17635471]

Italy just confirmed hardcore auarantine measures for 16 million people. Tomorrow might be a nice cyber monday

[Anonymous No.17635474]

What are some oil companies to short?

[Anonymous No.17635477]

>>17635457
The only Stahl I want is Krupp STAHL.

[Anonymous No.17635485]

>>17635439
kek has spoken

[Anonymous No.17635490]

>>17635471
Their quarantine is a joke. People were escaping the quarantine regions by the train load today and yesterday. If they were smart they would have immediately pushed for a snap quarantine and not warn people of it occurring. Because people are stupid and they would attempt to scurry to the next province like rats.

[Anonymous No.17635498]

>>17635474
Just buy DRIP

[Anonymous No.17635509]

>>17635490
That fact doesn't matter. The algo only sees the ITALY QUARANTINE = BAD

[Anonymous No.17635529]

r*dditors are selling their stocks its time for the bull

[Anonymous No.17635536]

>>17635529
Proof?

[Anonymous No.17635541]

>>17635242
It's true the S&P typically outperforms everything else short of 2x S&P over long term. 2x S&P backtests surprisingly well and holds up through market volatility (just don't panic sell in a recession).

[Anonymous No.17635543]

>>17635498
>buying the top
well i mean i do believe its going to go higher so i cant really get fucked long term

[Anonymous No.17635553]

for every 1 person that makes like 100x trading options, how many people are losing everything?

[Anonymous No.17635559]

>>17635541
Should note that the 2x S&P vs. vanilla S&P comparison includes drip reinvested dividends on the vanilla.

[Anonymous No.17635562]

>>17635536
https://old.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/ff7pss/i_broke_my_own_rule_and_sold_all_of_my_stocks_50k/
https://old.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/ff7juo/whats_everyone_shorting/
https://old.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/fevmjf/the_problems_isnt_the_virus_the_market_already/
https://old.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/fexlqx/the_coronavirus_is_vastly_under_appreciated/
https://old.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/ff4c0d/bulls_please_state_your_case_that_this_will_not/

[Anonymous No.17635564]

>>17635541
I figured as much. Not sure I want to play games with my retirement funds playing the 2x S&P though.

[Anonymous No.17635585]

>>17635543
>top
Oil is going to crash for months, DRIP is going to sky rocket.
>Direxion has the best names for their shit

[Anonymous No.17635592]

>>17635553
A boomer is on the other side pf the trade so who gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.17635605]

>>17635592
i just want to know if my chances are good if i trade options. it seems like more people lose than win

[Anonymous No.17635613]

>>17635605
Your chances are not good unless you're trading strictly on probability of success and following a system to make a profit.

[Anonymous No.17635633]

>>17635585
I wonder how MBS arresting and possibly killing of his princely rivals is going to affect oil prices. Especially if the rumor is confirmed this week that his vegetable of a father has indeed has kicked the bucket.

[Anonymous No.17635634]

>>17635613
i hate bringing up r*ddit but there are guys there who turn like 7k into into 400k. i cant even picture that in my head. and those fuckers do it by just going with the flow and not sticking to a strict plan

[Anonymous No.17635638]

>>17635553
The answer to this would be complicated to figure out. In part because options aren't always used as an instrument for profit in and of itself but rather as a hedge to guard against losses. Say you have a long position you'd like loss protection for, you purchase puts that will expire worthless if your position never sees a downturn before expiration, but can be exercised to exit that position without taking the brunt of the red candle of death if it happens.

>>17635564
Nothing wrong with vanilla S&P for the long haul. It's a safe and excellent choice for that application. When you're approaching retirement age, say a few years before, you will want to pay more close attention to the markets and perhaps start selling to cash if the market is precarious. It would be unfortunate to hit retirement right when the market is panicking about something or other.

[Anonymous No.17635651]

>>17635634
Sure, you can do stupid YOLO shit like turn 7k into 400k but the odds of that ever working are EXTREMELY LOW.

[Anonymous No.17635652]

https://www.marketbeat.com/stocks/NASDAQ/SNSS/

>3 equities research analysts have issued 1 year target prices for Sunesis Pharmaceuticals' shares. Their forecasts range from $1.50 to $6.00. On average, they anticipate Sunesis Pharmaceuticals' share price to reach $3.75 in the next twelve months. This suggests a possible upside of 271.3% from the stock's current price. View Analyst Price Targets for Sunesis Pharmaceuticals.

Was SNSS anon right? Should we be buying this stock?

[Anonymous No.17635663]

>>17635651
yea i figured the odds are low. there are thousands of people there and ive seen maybe 15-20 people have crazy returns like that. its just so enticing

[Anonymous No.17635669]

>>17635638
I think depending on the balance, as I get closer to retirement, say 5 years or so out, I'll start rolling most of it into stable, guaranteed investments. Cash, bonds, stuff like that. Absolutely do not want to hit retirement a few years into massive sell-offs or a recession with my whole nest egg in the market.

[Anonymous No.17635676]

>>17635652
Heres a secret: all these researchers and analysts, they also don't know shit, just like everyone else. So is SNSS good? Who fucking knows!

[Anonymous No.17635682]

>>17635663
It's pure luck, no logic or reason. Can you afford to risk throwing 7,000 dollars in the dumpster and lighting it on fire? They're likely investing much more. I've seen some people literally gambling 25,000 dollars on completely stupid shit.

[Anonymous No.17635692]

0/10

[Anonymous No.17635744]

>>17635692
Maybe something simpler next week >_<

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.17635748]

>>17635634
what you don't see is how many guys turn $7k into $3.50

[Anonymous No.17635756]

>>17635748
First intelligent thing I've ever seen this retard post

[Anonymous No.17635759]

>>17635748
yea thats what i was wondering is how many of those unlucky fucks for every 1 100bagger

[Anonymous No.17635778]

>>17635427
rolling

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.17635792]

>>17635756

[Anonymous No.17635801]

>>17635778
>>17635427
https://www.investing.com/equities/seafront-rsc

and

https://www.investing.com/equities/spm-corp

Yuck

[Anonymous No.17635821]

>>17635651
Exactly. Gamblers never talk about their big loses. Only their big wins. Who knows how many loses are involved. Many stradle strategies have a implied loss baked in, either the top or the bottom. It could actually be the safest bet of all time say covering a $9 put and a $5 call on a $7 asset so a wide straddle margin with a modest return overall.
If I only show you one side of the straddle you think "holy fuck, all those gains what a balls move" when in reality I knew I was covered all along.

[Anonymous No.17635875]

>>17635778
For you anon

[Anonymous No.17635878]

Post yfw this is the bottom

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.17635897]

>>17635878
haha.. bull market anyday now

[Anonymous No.17635912]

>>17635878

[Anonymous No.17635923]

>>17635878
I love finding a nice juicy bottom to pump

[Anonymous No.17635952]

>>17635676
It’s genuinely not though

[grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O No.17635998]

To the anons that shorted Italy good luck! I'm hoping for a green day on Monday or Tuesday to enter. Though it seems like the situation in Italy is getting far worse than I could imagine.

[Anonymous No.17636004]

boomers are going to die
what are some good funeral, cremation or cemetery reits?

[Anonymous No.17636034]

>>17635334
Hmmm.. I will certainly think about this.
BTW, what do you (and others reading this) think about shorting health insurance companies? Would not they bear a great unexpected cost in this? Cigna for example is near all-time highs. I am currently looking into it. One perplexing item which I cannot yet explain however is that many people within Cigna recently ACQUIRED stock. Isn't that odd? Why would that be, unless it was given to them as part of an option/reward. I would think they'd be getting out like crazy, considering the massive amounts they are likely to shell out over the next few months, + the general decrease of the stock market notwithstanding. Please help a brainlet like me out. Not trying to get super rich, just looking for a few crumbs. I'm planning on shorting FAS and maybe some food prep, and the health ins. What is your wisest advice?
https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/CI/sec-filings

[Anonymous No.17636044]

>>17635778
I love the kind of button up shirt so tight it looks like a light feather brush would cause it to burst open.

[Anonymous No.17636096]

What’s the RECESSION playbook?
Utilities? Pretty richly valued. SPLV?
COST, WM, CLX, KO? How about defense contractors like LMT? Maybe the pharmaceuticals?

>>17635923
God DAMN
I gotta lose some weight and get in shape. I’m never going to make it at this rate.

[Anonymous No.17636099]

>>17635878
I have no idea. The widgets are uncertain as well. Need moar numbers more trading action. S&P has given no buy signals to me since the sell signal in to the crimson waterfall. There was no buy signal on the bounce, which is by design as I made my doodads to be skeptical of jerky business like that.

While i'm sitting in cash I have been doing more testing and I think I'm just about done trading individual equities. I think I may just swing trade against the index with 2x leverage, mostly long, short on rare occasions. Short setup is super specific due to the rare price action needed for me to low risk bear it up against the holy floating index.

[Anonymous No.17636113]

>>17636096
>Utilities?
Some of the utilities on my watchlist have done better than the index but still got kicked around pretty hard. They were not a safe haven this time. Talking about non-fuel stuff; hydro and electric.

[Anonymous No.17636167]

>>17635174
Funny you mention Trump. 25% chance of helicopter money? From the man who brought you whining about "high" interest rates and Powell on twitter? The man who has gone on record asking who cares about the national debt? Even if he didn't want it his powers are limited, but there's no indication he wouldn't. And Trump aside central banks have every intention of enacting this policy as they see fit, with interest rates already low it'll be one of the few tools left.

[Anonymous No.17636258]

>>17635998
Been seeing data that says if coronavirus proceeds through Italy at the same pace it has been their healthcare system will be completely overwhelmed in about 2 weeks. Heard similar things from US doctors, people very worried about number of beds and just being able to get into a hospital. Stay safe gwim!

[Anonymous No.17636267]

>>17635998
what financial instrument are you using to short the pizza peoples?

[Anonymous No.17636275]

>>17635562
When the shoeshine boys are selling their stocks... wait for an oversold bounce to reposition?

>>17636113
True but last I checked utilities had been pumping. And this selloff was broad enough where just about everyone got hit. Moving forward, I still think cash is more trash than king, so I want to have good strong stocks. No more trying to grab things like TTD.

What I mean is this selloff was panic about the virus, which is why few things besides CLX and COST were spared. Moving forward, as people stop being afraid of the virus but do come to terms with a recession, what are the plays that work in that environment?

[grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O No.17636278]

>>17636258
My neighbor is unironically stuck on cruise that they won't let enter California
>>17636267
Anons aren't actually shorting, well maybe some are, but they're buying puts on EWI

[Anonymous No.17636298]

>>17636267
Yeah puts like grim said. Kind of want to buy more at the open but that’s probably pushing my luck. Especially considering that their market opens way before the us markets.

[Anonymous No.17636299]

>>17636278
They're pulling into the Port of Oakland, no doxxing but my mommy might know... more than almost anyone about them. Situation on ship is VERY bad.

[Anonymous No.17636308]

>>17636299
IM IN OAKLAND THIS WEEKEND
DONT LET THEM IN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I’m already kidney failure and broken testicles

[Anonymous No.17636313]

>>17635634
Go for it bro get those tendies man. Be the hero we all wish we can be

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.17636318]

>>17636308
>I’m already kidney failure and broken testicles
>broken testicles

[Anonymous No.17636323]

>>17636004
There's a Canadian funeral home company called Park Lawn Corp i traded last year to good results. I haven't taken a peak at the chart for a while. It's not a reit.

[Anonymous No.17636327]

>>17636308
21 out of 45 people randomly tested on the bote are already infected :(
Mike Pence requested they all be tested but there aren't 3500 test kits in the state of California. A lot of them will probably be taken to other states but be careful.

[Anonymous No.17636335]

>>17636308
What the fuck, are you me? Maybe this'll mean my work will finally tell everyone to stay home.

[Anonymous No.17636337]

>>17636323
K just checked. It went down hard same as everything else.

[Anonymous No.17636354]

>>17636327
no way
3500 people on one single boat?

[Anonymous No.17636357]

>>17636299
What’s so bad? I saw an article with lots of photos, looks like they have room service and crochet and playing cards...
I’m such a fucking pussy retard for closing my CCL and MAR shorts fuck that was so easy and obvious. (Same with my INTC and EWJ shorts...)

>>17636327
THERE ARE 3500 PEOPLE ON BOARD?! Jeebus some of them are going to die that’s awful. I bet they paid out the ass to take that lovely vacation too. That IS bad. Drumpf should shut these things down for a while unfortunately.

I love cruising actually... can your mama hook me up with an industry job?

>>17636335
I am not you. I don’t work here just visiting. But I would really like it if they could close school so I could not rush back. It’s the sensible thing to do.

[Anonymous No.17636360]

>>17635035
Elon Musk is going to hit his CEO goals, be awarded 20% of the company in stock options, and then buy out the rest of Tesla using cash accumulated through Spacex. He's going to take it private but he will let current stock holders remain equity holders in the private business. It's a big buy for me brah.

>>17635037
Markets are going to go up. there is just too much money in the system at this point, and now gas is dirt cheap.

>>17635056
we'll see our next huge leg down in mid-May and early June when the hospitals are overrun and people start dying in their homes. this will cause hysteria and a rise in mortality rate of younger people.

>>17635068
buy gold and bitcoin, as always.

>>17635101
i'm up 56% YTD because i listened to pol

>>17635334
this. we will be in a welfare state. the federal reserve will buy equity in private companies and mandate employment levels to the point where employees will be hired to do useless tasks just to keep them occupied and paid a small wage. keeping doomers off the street and not protesting is the new name of the game.

>>17635405
i want specifics because idk how to "short everything in middle east". CAT is based in israel does that count?

>>17635427
roll

>>17635474
chevron seems overvalued, but oil companies are gonna be bailed out like airlines and banks, so be careful.

>>17635553
winners make money, losers lose money. i will admit there is a TON of wasted cash on low volume options and big spreads.

>>17635778
wine tasting is degenerate

>>17636034
i already shorted MET and did fine. the problem is that those insurance companies have tricky ways of staying profitable or getting bailouts, they also hedge their risk. it's not always black and white. it's like the WELL and OHI old folks home stocks; they aren't dipping because they have waitlists.

>>17636096
ROST and comcast. fuck telecommunications. the appeal of shorting retail, telecommunications, and entertainment like disney is that they won't be rescued.

[Anonymous No.17636361]

>>17635634
The problem with the yolo and feels strat is statistics always catch up to you eventually. Then you lose all your gains and more, start over or quit. That gamblers mindset is really hard to shake. Fir the percentage that hit the lotto trade of make it gains, the fraction of those able to transition in to lower risk and maintaining the newly acquired stack is tiny.

[Anonymous No.17636373]

>>17636360
yea im worried about oil companies being bailed out similar to airlines and banks, might just go for a smaller profit than what I had in mind

[Anonymous No.17636379]

>>17635634
Survivorship bias

[Anonymous No.17636380]

>>17636354
have you seen a ship?

[Anonymous No.17636392]

>>17636354
Is floating hotel. Big hotel.

[Anonymous No.17636398]

Oh god damnit it's daylight savings shift day. I gotta go to bed.

END THE TIME CHANGE I HATE IT EVERY TIME

[Anonymous No.17636403]

>>17636380
not since the war

[Anonymous No.17636407]

>>17636357
sunmommy isn't a crusier silly she's a big doktery
People from the bote are certainly going to die, especially if 40-50% are already infected. I had a long talk with my mommy last night and told her about this leaked slide which estimates 30-40% of americans will catch it. I thought she'd shoot it down as a fake but she said that's about in line with what she knows! With what we know about death rates that's about 480k americans dead. Hope it's not that bad ;_;
She recommended me listen to this interview with Marc Lipsitch, the numbers match up.

[Anonymous No.17636437]

>>17636407
>1 PPV
what does it mean

[Anonymous No.17636457]

>>17636437
person per ventilator? maybe idk

[Anonymous No.17636459]

>>17636437
refers to the accuracy of test kits, this is data created assuming test kits are perfectly accurate

[Anonymous No.17636488]

>>17636407
Dude. That’s awful. This is really going to be a national and global tragedy, isn’t it? I’ll have to check out that interview too.

I didn’t realize you were into the deep lore on this. Figured out how to make money or guard against risk through this?

[Anonymous No.17636537]

My loved ones still think it’s just the flu... shit

[Anonymous No.17636540]

>>17636488
I don't want to be into the deep lore, I just have to be since I'm scared for my mom. She's gonna be front and center for all of this, and sounds more and more concerned each time she calls :(
I don't want to buy into the panic surrounding it, but at the same time this is 100% the worst public health crisis of our lifetimes (presuming you weren't alive in the 50s for polio or something).
As for managing risk I'm still glad I'm holding so much cash even if it's trash. I just don't know what to do, VIX is insanely high, put premium makes my eyes water, I'm not gonna hold leveraged bear etfs. I have my gold I guess. Only thing I can think to do is just wait it out, I'm sure that even if the material effects continue panic will have subsided a bit by summer. I'm relatively confident that the news cycle is much more relevant to equities than what's actually happening on the ground, once news stories about corona no longer sell we'll see it turn around.
I also have deep, DEEP lore to expect China to take huge fiscal measures second half of march, we'll see what that does.

[Anonymous No.17636562]

Can you believe people thought coronavirus was bad for economy

Bullbros ready to feast on dumbass bear meat monday?

[Anonymous No.17636569]

>>17636354
Have you never seen a cruise ship? They can be as big as skyscrapers. They are floating towns. Cargo container ships are even bigger, literally the size of an entire city block.

[Anonymous No.17636575]

>>17636562
have you not seen the news this weekend? its going to be blood red on monday

[Anonymous No.17636576]

>>17636569
I wanna go on a cheap discounted corona cruise

[Anonymous No.17636587]

>>17636575
Dumbfuck bear lmao

Go to zerohedge u fucking loon

Elon and trump popped the sniffles cradh panic

We will be green

Golden bullrun

Literal braindeads are only near bears

[Anonymous No.17636591]

>>17636576
This summer, flights, cruises, and all vacations will be DEAD cheap!

[Anonymous No.17636592]

>>17636540
ask her what the protocol says to do if they run out of masks/filters/other protective gear

like will a hospital just not be able to treat patients (for days or weeks at a time), or will they send in the doctors and nurses anyway?

[Anonymous No.17636596]

Monday is green
Tuesday is green

This is a bull market

Literallly calling it right now

Remember this post

Bulls r in total control now gtfo bears

[Anonymous No.17636601]

>>17636591
I wanna do a long alaska cruise and read boooks and jerk offs. May lock it in soon but havent seen prices

[Anonymous No.17636605]

>>17636587
>basing your argument on tweets from 2 clowns.

Have fun standing at the breadlines

[Anonymous No.17636611]

>>17636605
Listen to me

Its green monday

Its green tuesday


Remember this

[Anonymous No.17636616]

>>17636611
Listen to me.

You're retarded

[Anonymous No.17636621]

>>17636616
Big powers exist u camt comprehend

A literal ancient god fucking told me

Sit down

[Anonymous No.17636626]

>>17636360
It sounds like you really think this Corona virus is going to pop the current bubble. Is that so?

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.17636629]

>>17636611
whats bullish about the market right now? serious question. want to get both sides of the arguements with reasoning to make the best trading decisions.

[Anonymous No.17636635]

>>17636629
Great powers have told me

Its green mon and tues


Nojhuman powers

[Anonymous No.17636638]

>>17636592
I didn't ask her about masks, maybe I will tomorrow. Most doctors already know they'll get the disease mask or no.
A much bigger problem is beds, US hospitals simply cannot deal with this contingency. There aren't 4.8 million hospital beds in the US. Presuming these numbers are accurate (it is pretty early) I suspect most people even with relatively serious cases will just have to stay home.

[Anonymous No.17636639]

>>17635013
Hey guys pro economic tip: take all your money, and I mean all your money out of the banks. Cash in on all your stocks like all of it. Sell everything. Get ur friends and everyone else to do the same

[Anonymous No.17636643]

>>17636562
show positions, pussy

[Anonymous No.17636649]

>>17636596
>China: QUARANTINED
>Iran: QUARANTINED
>Italy: QUARANTINED
>Seattle: QUARANTINED
>Los Angeles : QUARANTINED
>New York: QUARANTINED
>Russia/OPEC: OIL WAR
>Bonds: NO YIELD
>Interest rates: ZERO
>The Fed: BANKRUPT
>"B-b-bull market!!!!"
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.17636650]

>>17636639
Yes dont hold any money in banks esp in europe

Get cash

[Anonymous No.17636658]

>>17636639
HOLY FUCK WHAT IF YOU'RE RIGHT ?!?! WHAT IF THE WORLD IS GOING TO EXPIRE !?!?

[Anonymous No.17636661]

>>17636643
Im telling u

We are smalll fish. Specks

the big powers

Non human

Told me green

Thats enough for me

[Anonymous No.17636674]

>>17636661
Look into the canaanite pantheon

Theres more to this than u think

[Anonymous No.17636675]

>>17636540
Aaaaaaaaa I’m sorry my man. And I wish I hadn’t missed movie night now would’ve been good to chat. (Also I liked memento)

Investor who I respect told me point blank this is going to cause a recession. I do wish I had more cash (and less svxy heh) but I guess I have to be patient.

News cycle... yeah perception more important to markets that reality. But supply problems from China, demand problems from everywhere, shit this really is going to be a recession. Hopefully the institutions aren’t as over-leveraged as some FUD claims. I don’t even know how to figure that out.

Curious about what you know about the stimulus if you’re allowed to talk about it, but I don’t know if there’s anything they can do vs. recession conditions.
>>17636592
This is going to happen.
Even before this happened and fucked with supply chains, we were already under stocked on basics like the things they stock crash carts with at hospitals.
If they can’t slow the spread of this thing it’s going to be ugly when it overwhelms the system.

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.17636684]

>>17636635
ok

[Anonymous No.17636698]

The gren gonna be epix too

Bullbros get redy

[Anonymous No.17636704]

>>17636684
Like im not kidding kek

Im rolling e i th the big dawgs kek

Gren mom tues
Annd after nonone will cre i knew

[BUY TLT No.17636709]

Deutsche Bank defaults on monday

[Anonymous No.17636722]

[BUY TLT No.17636728]

>>17636629
All the brown people and boomers are about to die off

[Anonymous No.17636733]

>>17635013
What price should I go all in on BA?

[Anonymous No.17636738]

>>17636675
Hilariously SVXY is the one thing I still have a little confidence in. We can have months of red and VIX could still decline as long as it's slow enough. This whole thing is looking a lot more serious than a month ago >_<

[Anonymous No.17636748]

>>17635147
This, forevernull only works with a white majority population.

[Anonymous No.17636752]

Cantelieve ppl still bearish

[Anonymous No.17636757]

>>17636675
Also I unironical can't talk about the China thing kekkies

[Anonymous No.17636762]

>>17636575
Lol. It will be red, and the Fed will step in Tuesday or Wednesday to buffer it.

[Anonymous No.17636763]

>>17636757
Bears get ready to get the fuck outthe way

Srs warn

[Anonymous No.17636764]

>>17636360
Not sure if schitzo or profit prophet

[Anonymous No.17636766]

>>17636762
BUY TMF AND DRIP MONDAY FOR MAXIMUM GAINS!

[Anonymous No.17636769]

>>17635490
It's fucking Italy, everything they do is a joke.

[Anonymous No.17636774]

>>17636709
Did you say the same in 2018?

[Anonymous No.17636786]

>>17636629
I'll bite: very short ribs of bullish bets due to greed, and the Fed. Is like to think that some people (such as buffet supposedly buying into Delta) are playing an extremely long game and will pick at things they see as deals before they rise back up in price. But I see a big fear-driven pullback. When the world is on lockdown from a virus people will be scared. I now see the value of China locking down their stock market.

[Anonymous No.17636795]

WHAT THE FUCK NIKKI??

[Anonymous No.17636797]

>>17635490
HEY, WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU RETARDS!

You can buy puts in just about anything, it wont matter, you'll make money. We are heading into a depression.

The virus isn't just killing fat old boomers. No one is recovering. It hides in your nervous system and reemerges again when your immune system lets up. It does this again and again, wearing you down and scarring your lungs each time. That's why people are being released only to die later after being "reinfected".

WE ARE ALL FUCKED, do you understand? If you catch this virus you are absolutely fucked.

WHO does not include "recovered" in their reports, poorly defined https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports

New: "Recovered" drops dead, surge of reinfections http://archive.is/MF0fv

28-Feb: Israeli "recovered" case tests positive again https://archive.is/TV8DS

28-Feb: South Korea "recovered" case reinfected https://archive.is/Gv1iu

27-Feb: Xuzhou first case reinfected weeks after "recovery" https://archive.is/CuOtr

27-Feb: "Recovered" in Japan sick again: reinfected or dormant https://archive.is/HjykE

26-Feb: 14% of "recovered" in Guangdong test positive again https://archive.is/V6IgT

21-Feb: Patient reinfects himself after "recovery" https://archive.is/8Ppkx

19-Feb: "There is a likelihood of relapse", expert says https://archive.is/ABjjf

14-Feb: Reinfection possible and even deadlier https://archive.is/Iw58p

31-Jan: Patients can get reinfected, no immunity after "recovery" https://archive.is/W9vNf

Virus hides in neurons, indefinitely escapes recognition http://archive.is/6NGuH

Virus invades nervous systems http://archive.is/qmc6U

[Anonymous No.17636801]

what are your moves for monday

[Anonymous No.17636809]

>>17635878
I'm just saying I went to a bar tonight with a co-worker who returned from China on the last day he was allowed to re-enter before the final flights out, and Coronavirus was the talk of the bar. This is the first time I've heard chatter about it aside from professionally.

[Anonymous No.17636812]

>>17636795
Does he sell pieces anywhere?

[Anonymous No.17636813]

>>17636611
its true though, we're at peak vix
>>17636795
Just answering a few questions tonight

[BUY TLT No.17636815]

>>17636774
I did not.
Now We've broken below that bottom on a fake pump with full year of fed repo that got ate up in a week.
When it breaks 6.40 all hell breaks loose.
Just keep an eye on the ticker is all I'm saying,

also buy TLT

[Anonymous No.17636817]

>>17636797

[Anonymous No.17636818]

>>17636786
*Very short "*runs**

[Anonymous No.17636822]

>>17636801
Eatijg bear meat

[BUY TLT No.17636825]

>>17636801
More TLT calls

[Anonymous No.17636843]

>>17636797
So does rabies

[Anonymous No.17636862]

>>17636797
I don't know if it's as bad as all that
>That's why people are being released only to die later after being "reinfected"
There's a good chance that this has to do with inaccuracy in test kits. Hospitals are eager to get people cured and out the door, and the rapid PCR kits can produce false negatives (especially since the virus seems to "lull" midway through). Test the same patient again later, they might pop positive. The virus reinfecting people is unlikely according to those I've talked to.
>>17636813
SVXY time
I wanna play with banana split's whistle @_@

[Anonymous No.17636864]

Market is going to crash Monday
Honestly I don't want to profit I just don't want to get infected

[Anonymous No.17636886]

>>17636801
Holding SPY 300 puts that expire Monday, have another that expires on Friday along with a large GME call position I'll be looking for a peak in by Tuesday afternoon.

[Anonymous No.17636897]

>the NEET will inherent the earth
It was all right there but a translation error from the original Greek kept us from seeing it

[Anonymous No.17636899]

>>17636864
The meek won't inherent shit, because I'll take it.

[Anonymous No.17636901]

>>17636886
>GME
whats the logic on the GME call?

[Anonymous No.17636902]

Its.green dudes

when u see futures

Theres a reason

[Anonymous No.17636908]

>>17636902
Thid aont even a time.im saying.probably

Its literally reality

We green

[Anonymous No.17636914]

>>17636722
Save me mommy Su

[Anonymous No.17636918]

Guys, I'm beginning to become delirious from insomnia. The only thing I've been thinking about for 21 hours a day for the last week is how mainstream newstards and boomers will pull out of the stock market because of this dumb panic, at which point I will put in my last 5k. I've never really had money, am I wrong in thinking this is my chance? I hope I won't be too sleep deprived to realize when the moment is when it's there.

[Anonymous No.17636922]

>>17636901
Why not try to rationalize the logic behind why it's up for the week, or try to wrap your head around the idea of a cash heavy business worth $9/share if they liquidated today trading at less than half of that a few months before the next gen console push.

[Anonymous No.17636932]

>>17636918
Don't go for the hail mary. You'll just lose your money.

[Anonymous No.17636934]

>>17636918
At least wait until the infected numbers go down

[Anonymous No.17636939]

>>17636922
so you're buying long dated calls? next gen console wouldn't even release till late 2020

[Anonymous No.17636943]

How do we convince the algorithms to conclude that stocks only go up?

[Anonymous No.17636946]

>>17636922
What will their stock be worth it they do liquidate, it declare bankruptcy?

[Anonymous No.17636953]

>>17636943
Reduce the vix, as happened this past Friday afternoon

[Anonymous No.17636956]

>Virality of C19 is overstated due to conflating diagnosis date with contraction date & over-extrapolating exponential growth, which is never what happens in reality. Keep extrapolating & virus will exceed mass of known universe!
t. Elon Musk

[Anonymous No.17636967]

>>17636932
How would I lose my money? Are you saying the markets will never return?

[Anonymous No.17636973]

>>17636901
An extraordinary short squeeze.
>% Held by Institutions: 147%
>Short % of Float: 112%
Literally every single share is short PLUS MORE. And that was LAST MONTH!

[Anonymous No.17636985]

>>17636934
I'm already seeing news from China that's too good to keep up the downtrend for a long time, assuming that the US will be as quick in containing the disease.

[Anonymous No.17636986]

>>17636801
TMF for FED cuts
DRIP for oil war

[Anonymous No.17636993]

>>17636939
No, I'm playing the mentality of which I posted, the market is already realizing how absurdly cheap it is. Again it's up over the last week, when anything and nearly everything is down, that isn't odd to you? You think the stock is just going to shoot up the day before consoles go on sale or something? Because that isn't how it works. Right now the rumor is GME is set to crush console launch. You sell right before the actual launch.

[Anonymous No.17637002]

>>17636939
You realize it's March 2020, right? You make 6-8 months out sound a whole lot longer than it is.

[Anonymous No.17637005]

>>17636967
Oh, you just want to invest the money long term? Then yeah, you'll be fine. Just wait like that other anon said. You have nothing to lose by waiting another 3 months, if you are looking at a several year investment.

[Anonymous No.17637016]

>>17636956
Genetic based projections give accurate total case aka denominator numbers with enough sequences

[Anonymous No.17637066]

>>17636985
>assuming that the US will be as quick in containing the disease.

That's where you're wrong kiddo.

[Anonymous No.17637076]

>>17636946
You have no idea what you're talking about. Why not look into how much cash they have on hand, or how the lowering of rates makes getting more capital even cheaper if they needed to? Even if the console launch is a disaster, they have cash on hand to last them through mid 2021, and that's ignoring their aggressive restructuring and closing unprofitable stores. This shit is the glaringly obvious rolling call play of 2020.

[Anonymous No.17637081]

Shill me some sweet Italian puts.

[Anonymous No.17637099]

>>17637005
Yeah long term, I should have started earlier (shouldn't everyone), so now I feel like I can get 1-2 years of 'free' returns, assuming the markets will bounce back. 3 months is quite long isn't it? What about putting €1000 in every week for the next 8 weeks. I feel like I would have an almost 0% chance of losing in the long term wouldnt I?

[Anonymous No.17637123]

>>17637076
Have you been to a gamestop store? They suck, they are the current electronic boutique
It's fundamentally a crap business, they are neither the Barnes & noble of their business nor the Wal-Mart of their business

[Anonymous No.17637127]

>>17637099
That's a good strategy as well. If you think that the market is going to go down for a few more weeks until the effects of this corona thing are fully visible, then you can wait to see how it unfolds.

[Anonymous No.17637146]

I am reminded that DB was the only bank to fail the Fed's stress test last year.

I think I'll buy puts. Assuming they don't get bought up by JPM at .02/share Monday morning.

[Anonymous No.17637149]

>>17636862
It's possible you're right, but I don't think it is likely because the corona virus is causing other CNS abnormalities like seizures. ,

The virus is know to be one of the few that can enter neurons where the immune system can't reach it. The other type of virus that is known for this is herpes. Just like herpes, corona will flare up periodically. Once you've got it, you're going to be sick for life.

[Anonymous No.17637151]

>>17637123
Yes they are currently shit. They are also rumored to be brokering a deal with both Microsoft and Sony to have new consoles in their stores to try a week plus before launch. There's also going to be a lot less of them over the next few months, funneling both traffic and resources into more profitable locations; They are going to slowly reduce their physical footprint before eventually being a worthless online only company, in the meantime, you'll see this one day within the next 6-8 months over 15.

[Anonymous No.17637155]

>>17637076
It sounds like you know what you are doing, and I guarantee you know a hell of a lot more about it than I do, so hats off to you and good luck!

[Anonymous No.17637165]

I'm thinking that European markets (I'm in Europe) will recover faster, at least the German and Dutch ones, so I might start there first (have everything in worldwide ETFs atm). I feel like the US markets will drop later and harder and stay lower for the following reasons:
-the virus arrived a bit late there, but the government is still in a bit of denial
-there is hardly any testing while this shit spreads everywhere
-there is not as much of a safety net socially speaking
-boomers will pull out some of their fortunes as they don't want to lose their retirements for 5 years
-Americans are a bit retarded on average


Therefore I'm thinking about buying some Dutch stocks this week if they go down a further 10%, we are usually quite reasonable and when the first Alibaba ships arrive again and good news arrives from China, it'll return to business as usual. Then in a couple of weeks or so, when every walmart and costco goes empty, and you Americans who always live with an empty fridge will panic and every old fart in Florida dies, I'll move into American stocks or just put it all into Vanguard's S&P 500 ETF if I don't see any special opportunities.

I literally thought this out while typing, tell me what you think.

[Anonymous No.17637169]

What if we just collectively mass buy GME with calls on it?
Will it cause a short squeeze? Their business is going to get better with new consoles releasing later this year.

[Anonymous No.17637171]

best plastics stock?

[Anonymous No.17637172]

>>17637155
Grazi my friend, the virus is a wildcard for literally everything in the world right now, including every financial instrument in existence, that being said in these situations things that are overly shorted going into the chaos tend to do well. The shorters just see so much more opportunities to short elsewhere and have already sucked this one dry.

[Anonymous No.17637247]

>>17637165
let me ask my german shepherd if markets are going to go up

>>17637169
surely some basement dwellers browsing an asian anime image board will have an impact on the global market

[Anonymous No.17637281]

>>17637247
Have you seen the recent SPCE jumps? That was clearly done by reddit users. This is not even market manipulation, just a bunch of internet users deciding that something should be worth more. I am pretty sure that the shill above is an idiot who can't actually read a balance sheet, but there is a clear opportunity for a short squeeze here.

[Anonymous No.17637293]

>tfw have $50k in stocks (invested at ATH) and $50k in cash and dont know what to do
when is the WHO going to officially declare a pandemic?

[Anonymous No.17637302]

>>17636639
is that related to Deutsche Bank fucking up? do you think there will be a try for a rescue that involves taking the bank money of people?

[Anonymous No.17637313]

>>17637293
If you don't know what to do, just invest 3K in cash every week for the rest of the year, it will balance out and near guarantee a profit in the long run. You could also go to /wallstreetbets and find out if that 50k turns into 0 or into a million.

[Anonymous No.17637343]

>>17637151
But even if the rumor is true the market has to believe it outweighs the other shit
You're assuming the market us stupid

[Anonymous No.17637361]

>>17637169
/biz, and even more broadly, retail investors could 110% team up and organize a trade to fuck MMs, the problem is if we do so too successfully they will simply stop trading citing manipulation. It's only manipulation worth stopping trading over when it's retail investors of course.

[Anonymous No.17637367]

>>17637281
Hey fagbag, if you have a specific criticism about my analysis, please offer it, until then stop pretending you've ever even viewed a balance sheet.

[Anonymous No.17637385]

>>17637343
No, I'm assuming the market will see an absurdly oversold stock, with a company with something north of 600 million in liquid assets, engaged in an aggressive restructuring (what needs to be done), with plenty of catalysts for the year. Again, these are all the things you want in a rolling call play. I will sell my calls on Tuesday during a peak, and then wait for a slight dip before buying calls further out, rinse repeat.

[Anonymous No.17637511]

>>17637385
Hope it works out

[Anonymous No.17637569]

>>17637367
Well, you are right about their long-term debt level being somewhat sustainable with the cash that they had in the current environment where interest rates get slashed and will probably get even lower by virtue of Jay Powell and his Robinhood account aka Fed.
What you are not saying is that most of their assets are comprised of their merchandise inventories aka old consoles and games that are not probably going to sell well. Also Funko toys or whatever they are called but those are laughable with all due respect.
What you are also not saying is that they have large operating lease liabilities. And yes, sure, you look at their assets and see that most of that has been prepaid and probably won't make them bankrupt for now. That I agree upon, they are not going bankrupt really soon and can sustain themselves until new consoles release.
Surely they can also transition to becoming an online retailer, but we all know that's the moment they die to big guys like Amazon since everyone has Prime nowadays and you can't really compete with their returns to scale.
Even if they trim their unprofitable stores (do they have profitable ones?) their business model is still unsustainable and can't compete. They are still going to have to pay rent, pay their employees, pay for supplies, etc. That shit takes a lot of operating expenses, to cover those they need to sell at a higher markup compared to, let's say Amazon. Now, who the fuck would go out and buy for a higher price instead of just sitting home and getting the same product at a lower price? Then they churn through their cash (which is not huge desu) and are stuck with non liquid assets (yeah, I'm talking about physical game copies and old consoles), then their debt becomes unsustainable and in a year and a half they become insolvent. I'm not really seeing where you found 600 million in liquid assets and I do not think that all those shorters are blind or retarded, but I do see a case for a short squeeze.

[Anonymous No.17637608]

>>17635013
alright my fellow /biz/raelis, I am finally opening an account in degiro.de and I am waiting for the verification process to be over.
What sort of stocks should I get for long term investment? I have a day job and I really don't have the time for daily trading.

i save around 1500 euros per month but I don't want it sleeping in my bank account.
shill me some good stuff.

[Anonymous No.17637624]

>>17637608
one more question, what is the best way to handle my income taxes from stocks? is Lohi.de any good?

[Anonymous No.17637644]

>>17637569
I don't want you, or anyone else to be confused, I see no positive future for them long run, but their share price will without a doubt go up in the coming months. I get it, their stores suck. Used games won't sell well, when both new consoles are rumored to be backward compatible to their original debuts? Sir, you are going to see a used game boom, as short lived as that will be. Throw in their new store designs focusing on community interaction, and they are at the absolutely very least making moves the market wants to, or at least likes to see; Personally I really don't see any sense in arguing about it, it's up 4% on the week when the market is done bigly, anyone detracting from this play has to start there to explain, because as it stands now, the market is paying attention.

[Anonymous No.17637662]

>>17637076
Sounds like bullshit but people were calling me an idiot for betting on ETSY
So good luck

[Anonymous No.17637742]

>>17632829
>>17632881
what are these two talking about?

[Anonymous No.17637758]

>>17637742
They're very clearly organized shillers of whatever their shilling, that you are now trying to continue because you're one of those posters. /Biz, at least /smg has grown to be pretty good at ignoring jeets like yourself.

[Anonymous No.17637777]

>>17637608
Long term hands off?
ETFs tracking the SP500 or the MSCI world
For stocks: AMZN, NVDA, V, MA, AMD, TSMC, LMT, etc.
Buy some WDI if you feel experimental

Essentially buy stocks you know will be the future. Tech, aero, chips, AI, cloud services
Then just wait 30 years.
>>17637624
Broker does it for you.
If your goal is buying and never selling till youre old thats also of no concern to you.

[Anonymous No.17637787]

>>17637758
if they are shilling they are doing a terrible job because neither you nor me can understand what cacavocacococo/kokopelli is referring to

[Anonymous No.17637792]

>>17637644
I wouldn't be so sure about backward compatibility. Remember, Sony is a big jew. They are not stupid to give away their money to someone like GME. They had some limited compatibility in PS2 and PS3, then they realised they can make a big cash flow from old games (and they need to make money from all games they can, since it's basically a razor and blade model where they initially sell consoles at a loss). Now, for PS4 they started selling old games via PS Store online for prices that are probably comparable with used games for old consoles. In this scenario used games for PS1/PS2 became obsolete for PS4 users.
I don't have experience with Xbox so I can't say anything about that console. However, I also tend to notice that most consumers buy consoles for NEW games, most of them even just to play some retarded shit like FIFA or MK exclusively. People (nerds) who opt for things like ps1 exclusive old JRPGs are in minority. Besides, they can still emulate (pirate, considering sony is selling those online for PS4) those on their PC.

[Anonymous No.17637796]

>>17637777
>If your goal is buying and never selling till youre old thats also of no concern to you.
nice, sounds like my kind of thing. I want stocks to be just a side investment that I don't worry much about. I also plan on opening up a small business next year.

thank you kind anon, also nice lucky quads.

[Anonymous No.17637805]

So I already have a bunch of money in crypto. But I want to diversity and start buying stocks.

I noticed that the SP500 is taking a plunge right now. My ideas are that:

>Corona, and the resulting quarantines, are an important factor in this
>The SP500 is overdue for a correction
>This will likely continue for a while, as more areas become affected, according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ the virus is still increasing exponentially

So my idea is to poor in 1k a month or so, starting, hopefully, when the SP500 reaches a price point of 2850 dollars. It might go lower, in case of a large crash all the way down to 2000, but eventually this will be a good thing if I properly dollar cost average an additional 1k investment every 1.5 months or so (for a total of 15 months).

Good idea or not?

[Anonymous No.17637814]

>>17637792
> People (nerds) who opt for things like ps1 exclusive old JRPGs are in minority.
Pffffft that's definitely not me..heh..

[Anonymous No.17637825]

>>17637805
The shoeshine boys are shorting the fuck out of the S&P 500, that means after some more volatility we're back on track.

[Anonymous No.17637829]

>>17637777
based

[Anonymous No.17637843]

>>17637796
Youre welcome.
Just do not try out other stuff. Once you turn your first 500€ into 4k€ overnight you will be sucked in and stay here on /smg/. Forever.

[Anonymous No.17637859]

>>17637805
be a little bit careful anon, based on these graphs the virus is not increasing exponentially, because if it were, the log graphs would be straight lines going up but they aren´t

[Anonymous No.17637864]

>>17637843
>Once you turn your first 500€ into 4k€ overnight
damn son, I mean when it comes to stocks, if i can get even 20-30% annual return I would be happy.
How much did you make?

[Anonymous No.17637871]

>>17637859
if that data is even correct in the first place of course

[Anonymous No.17637882]

>>17635634
the probability of losing your 7k is extremely high, more than 90%

[Anonymous No.17637890]

>>17637859
> It's all fine goys, just buy stonks

[Anonymous No.17637896]

>>17637864
What? 8-10% is moderately optimistic. If you want 20 or 30 you need to stay on this Indonesian coral bleaching forum, but that 20 or 30 could also end up being 50. Or -100.

[Anonymous No.17637908]

>>17637896
>but that 20 or 30 could also end up being 50. Or -100
i'd stick to the 8-10% optimistic returns. I dont' want to lose my shekels and I am in no hurry to become a memelionner.

[Anonymous No.17637921]

>>17637908
memeionnaire*

[Anonymous No.17637935]

>>17637908
Same. Just buy worldwide ETFs, some stocks you trust and forget about it. You'll have a lot of money in 20 years.

[Anonymous No.17637940]

>>17635748
>>17635759

Survivorship bias

[Anonymous No.17637981]

>>17637787
https://twitter.com/CiovaccoCapital

[Anonymous No.17637990]

just like last week everyone expects it to go red
monday will be green

[Anonymous No.17637991]

>>17637859

Yeah I phrased that incorrectly. Party laziness, part not being a native English speaker. My apologies.

I think the impact is still increasing though, based on what is currently going on in Italy. And the lack of caution that I see in currently, not severely affected areas.

[Anonymous No.17638048]

>>17637981
>>17637787
> This is surely going to make me money

[Anonymous No.17638053]

>>17637624
assuming you're german, degiro doesn't do shit for you other than withholding the quellensteuer and as soon as you get even a single cent in dividends you'll have to file taxes including Anlage KAP/KAP-Inv depending on what exactly it is you made money on. It is doable even for a layman but I'd suggest researching how to file taxes on some german forums because you probably won't be able to dodge it forever even if you just buy and hold.

[Anonymous No.17638069]

>>17638053
Yah I am aware of the shitty tax situation here. I contacted Lohi which is a local income tax handling service. I will have an appointment with them and see what they can do for me. Their fees are reasonable.

[Anonymous No.17638143]

>>17638069
How do you feel knowing that your tax dollars go toward housing for mudshits who ficki ficki your women and want you dead

[Anonymous No.17638246]

>>17638069
>>17637608
if you just want to save over time, for example in broad ETFs like the other anon suggested then you can look into etf saving plans, look up justetf.com for a comparision of brokers/banks, there is also a guide on taxes (for germans)

[Anonymous No.17638251]

>>17638048
i find it hilarious to try to hide ciovacco vids

[Anonymous No.17638266]

Post billionaires

https://youtu.be/Aa54bSxbbEU

[Anonymous No.17638291]

Market crash confirmed Monday. Saudi Arabia is hiking oil output 10% to punish Russia.

[Anonymous No.17638303]

>>17638266
i dont give a fuck about billionaires i dont even wanna be a millionaire. all i need is 90k to live comfortably off of trades.

[Anonymous No.17638309]

Ahahaha OPEC will increase their output following failed negotiation

[Anonymous No.17638326]

>>17638303
Wouldn't a billionaire know more about how to get "90k"?

[Anonymous No.17638341]

26 hours an 10 minutes and we shall be in the abyss

[Anonymous No.17638342]

>>17638326
ok so he posted buffet and munger. hmm what new things will they tell me. hmmm. buy companies with solid fundamentals and with products that are known to be good. hmm. hold for verly long time. oh ok.

[Anonymous No.17638353]

>>17638342
and, of course how could i forget, buy good things at a lower price. WOW what else is new.

[Anonymous No.17638364]

>>17638309
will we finally trip the circuit breakers?

[Anonymous No.17638368]

>>17638342
>>17638353
You have the basics down. But the video is about human misjudgement or misweighing of evidence.

[Anonymous No.17638376]

>>17638341
tons of bad news this weekend...
everyone expecting market dump...

makes me worried about my puts

[Anonymous No.17638377]

>>17638368
k maybe i was a little bit quick to judge. i will listen in on it.

[Anonymous No.17638384]

>>17638376
the fact that passive investors are thinking about shorting the market is worrisome

[Anonymous No.17638399]

>>17638364
>say hello to my short friend

[Anonymous No.17638408]

>tfw I am sitting on 90k in cash waiting for the market to fully crash.

I didn't fall for the bait this past week.

[Anonymous No.17638413]

>>17637981
>>17638048
Thanks, lel a twitter account and.. I don't even know, something you pay for?

Not anything I will make use of.

[Anonymous No.17638437]

>>17638376
>TFW closed my puts at a loss Friday close

Why am I always fearful and wrong

[Anonymous No.17638466]

>>17637829
Always buy
Never sell

Except when I sell
>>17637864
Its like one good call on earnings.
Amazon made me go up 800% if I remember.
Its nothing special, you just do not win all the gambles you take.

[Anonymous No.17638516]

>>17636973
are these stats avail for every stock? can you redpill me on this? so you expect small move up would liquidate the shorts, this is why you hold the call? sorry for retarded question.

[Anonymous No.17638561]

>>17638408
When exactly do you plan to buy in, Anon? Looking for some event in particular, or just waiting for the market to reach some new low?

[Anonymous No.17638585]

>>17638408
The bait was pretty weak as well though.
Only Baggie and one/two other guys bought in.

[Anonymous No.17638590]

Why is the statistic on people losing money trading stocks (i usually hear somewhere in the 90-99% range) so ridiculously high? are over 9 out of 10 people seriously just doing things by "feel" and have no sort of system, no risk management, no scaling out point, etc?

it feels like even with the most basic of moving average crossings (let's say EMA(10) and EMA(30) which is pretty common) and say, at a minimum, a 2x the ATR trailing stop and selling half your position at 2x the ATR in profit, it should be very hard to lose money in the long run. and this is as basic as it gets and is all over the internet in terms of how easy it is to learn about for free, widely available and not a secret or anything. and this is saying nothing on how you could do better than this, which you certainly can. i just don't understand why the statistic is so outrageously high, that most people lose something like $30k and then quit is crazy unless literally like 9/10 people are straight up gamblers.

[Anonymous No.17638610]

>>17638408
>not taking the opportunity to short
lmao

>>17638561
literally when they say the coronavirus shit is over. they got a vaccine, summer heat killed it, whatever just as long as it's over and more importantly, everyone actually BELIEVES that it's over, everyone goes back to work, etc. the market is forward looking so honestly you could jump in just on that news alone, because the market will pump on the expectation that things will go back to normal even if they haven't begun actually vaccinating people yet.

[Anonymous No.17638616]

>>17638590
where does that data from this study come from? ive never seen it. don't trust those numbers

[Anonymous No.17638620]

>>17638561
I think I will start my buys at 20,001 on the DOW. I really need to figure out what I am going to buy at the bottom. I am tempted to just get a total market index fund.

[Anonymous No.17638656]

>>17638610
>literally when they say the coronavirus shit is over. they got a vaccine, summer heat killed it, whatever just as long as it's over and more importantly, everyone actually BELIEVES that it's over

Thanks Anon, you are wise. Also, what do you plan to short next week, if I may ask?

[Anonymous No.17638671]

>>17638616
>https://money.cnn.com/1999/08/09/markets/daytrade/

[Anonymous No.17638693]

>>17638656
probably AMD, because it's a perfect day trading stock that i use all the time, but i day trade so i don't have to guess i just follow my system after waiting out the first half hour-ish of the day. if i get the signal to short i short, if i get the signal to go long i go long. price moves in waves, so even on a down day there are uptrends and even on an up day there are downtrends.

[Anonymous No.17638706]

>>17638341
Monday cant kill soon enough

[Anonymous No.17638709]

>>17635032
the thread is this

[Anonymous No.17638723]

>>17638671
>>17638590
You realize trading and day trading are two very different things, right?
The only day traders I met were just gamblers who lost money 10/10 times

[Anonymous No.17638725]

>>17638590
most people are driven by fear and greed at their core, not by logical strategies, even if they pretend to have one.

[Anonymous No.17638733]

newbub here, anyone with actual experience in the market able to tell me how Monday is going to go?
Is the worst behind us?

[Anonymous No.17638745]

>>17638671
That's for a specific company, tho

[Anonymous No.17638746]

>>17638733
Yes, go all in on monday bro.

[Anonymous No.17638749]

>>17638408
>>17638384
>>17638376
We will crab. I dont really see how puts are making money. Premiums are sky high all over and the market over the week has so much volatility puts and calls both get wrecked. We ended the week slightly green i think. We will probably crab all next week with 1k swings each direction.

[Anonymous No.17638780]

>>17638408
>>17638610
just remember you also need to be one of the lucky few people to survive corona in order to be able to buy back in

[Anonymous No.17638787]

>>17638749
I agree with this anon. It's what happened last week even with the string of bad news.

[Anonymous No.17638808]

>>17638723
>The only day traders I met were just gamblers who lost money 10/10 times

okay i'll bite: how did they day trade? these people you supposedly met, are we talking people who actually developed and tested an edge, or like, penny stock memers and the like? are we saying that 9 out of 10 day traders are penny stock memers here, is that it?

[Anonymous No.17638809]

>>17638746
that's what people thought last week and they got absolutely assblasted.

[Anonymous No.17638811]

>>17638780
how many millennials is this thing killing so far? pretty sure i'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.17638816]

>>17638787
>>17638749
>>17638733
this, i would say look at last week, it will be similiar, it pumped on monday, crab for rest of week and dump on friday

[Anonymous No.17638823]

>>17638749
>Premiums are sky high all over and the market over the week has so much volatility puts and calls both get wrecked.

literally just buy or short the underlying assets why do people do this to themselves with options lmao

[Anonymous No.17638842]

>>17635242
Two funds - A S&P and Total market, is all I use. The S&P for the slightly higher performance and the total market for the broader diversification protection. I don't bother with bonds or a large international fund cause the markets are linked now to such a degree if the market in japan or china tanks the U.S market will tank just as hard. Sides a lot of foreign companies are listed on the U.S market anyway so the total market fund would have them.

[Anonymous No.17638847]

>>17638811
it's not about your age but your health. If you're a smoker, I would be worried.

[Anonymous No.17638850]

>>17638749
Hmmm maybe but the vix did shoot up to 54, I think a crash is imminent

[Anonymous No.17638853]

>>17638847
i vape weed, does that count? :^)

[WeedBrahski !6YaY21J9x2 No.17638881]

first things first, im back baby!

second, whichever downie retard had the audacity to report a legend like me to the jannies i hope you get cancer faggot.

third thing, you idiots have no idea how bad its going to get this week. unironically if youre long youre about to get hurt a lot. if youre short there is opportunity to make good money this week. things are ramping up and another catalyst has entered the chat. get ready idiots, you can make a lot of money tomorrow if you follow my advicerino.

[Anonymous No.17638887]

>>17638842
whats your ratio? i wanted to do something similar with ETFs, a s&p and a world index, but then again most s&p holdings are also in the world index so not sure if that would make much sense really

[Anonymous No.17638895]

>>17638881
>second, whichever downie retard had the audacity to report a legend like me to the jannies i hope you get cancer faggot.

wait, so that actually worked and you got tempbanned?

i'll have to keep that in mind for the future. watch yourself, tripfag.

[Anonymous No.17638901]

>>17638808
Im not a day trader and all the various methods of TA strategies they used either fly right over my head, I did not ask about or I forgot them. They usually have no idea, can barely explain simple concepts and seem to have watched twenty youtube videos and maybe read a blog. Probably /wsb as well by now. I had to explain a trailing order to one guy.
So I completely trust a stat that says 9/10 do not make money. The sooner they give up, the better.

That said I day trade sometimes, if there is a specific reason, and what I take away from the whole thing is not that day trading is shit but 95% of TA. Next person who talks about a cup with a handle gets a beating.

>How can you tell that they lose money?
All of them traded in the past, not when I met them. Which indicates that they gave it up for some reason. If that was losing it all or making enough to retire, I can not tell.

[Anonymous No.17638909]

Why don't people just wait for Corona Chan to bottom out stock prices then scoop them up, for literally a song, then sit on them?

[WeedBrahski !6YaY21J9x2 No.17638911]

>>17638895
the posts here are so fucking low iq most of you retards cant get past the first tier of market dynamics. i literally spoonfeed your dumbass everything you need to know and yet you retards want to continue playing checkers. fucking mongs. eat my cock.

[Anonymous No.17638913]

>>17638847
>>17638780


I am in totally good health. I have filters, a years worth of food, enough firearms and ammo to supply a platoon for a year and many other abilities.

[Anonymous No.17638916]

>>17638901
>>17638808
Oh wait.
I met one Iranian Forex day trader who seemed to do ok.
Not rich or anything, just supplementing his income a bit

[Anonymous No.17638921]

>>17638881
>>17638881


reporting him as we speak. this weekend was great without that cancerous faggot around.

[Anonymous No.17638924]

What is the best way to go short?
Puts, KOs, inverse ETFs, leveraged inverse ETFs?

[WeedBrahski !6YaY21J9x2 No.17638925]

>>17638901
the reason they lose money is because 1. they have no defined strategy or advantage over the market. 2. they dont understand market dynamics. 3. they have no risk management.

[WeedBrahski !6YaY21J9x2 No.17638937]

>>17638921
imagine getting cancer as a trade off for reporting a legend. lmfao.

[WeedBrahski !6YaY21J9x2 No.17638948]

>>17638913
>>17638921
i just read some of your replies and cringed so hard lol. youre a redneck idiot who clearly has no reason to be in the markets.

[Anonymous No.17638962]

>>17638887
Both are split 50/50 or close to it. I dump the same amount into each each month. Now my 401k is a bit different. 60% is in large blend while 40% is a balanced blend. Back when I setup my 401 the whole target fund thing wasn't an option.

[Anonymous No.17638972]

>>17638901
from what i understand, i used to think it was just fundamental and technical analysis, but really there should be a 3rd category for QA or quantitative analysis. like you mention with the cup and handle, chart patterns are really what TA is. QA is actually based on math and numbers, formulas used to calculate certain aspects of what price and volume are doing over time. like, at its most basic, a moving average is QA, a head and shoulders pattern is TA. TA is very subjective but also widely taught so it's no surprise if people try to trade based on chart patterns they probably get rekt, whereas if a faster MA is rising above a slower MA which is also rising (slope of the line), there is more volume behind the green bars and less volume behind the red bars, and price is trading in the upper bounds of its recent trading range, then price is going up generally. all of these things can be be analyzed using objective data.

>>17638911
you're going to regret that after basically posting proof of concept that the reporting system actually works. keep it up, kiddo. see what happens.

[Anonymous No.17638978]

>>17638693
Thanks Anon! Have a profitable trading week!

[WeedBrahski !6YaY21J9x2 No.17638983]

>>17638972
nah im not. i used to think this place had substance, but after finding a new source i realized how behind most of you idiots are lol. most of the posts on here are so basic yet you all think you have an advantage over the markets which is fucking hilarious. but yeah i come here just to watch idiots get rekt for the jokes.

[Anonymous No.17639011]

>>17638983
stop posting any time then, faggot. just lurk instead of constantly seeking negative attention. (hint: you won't because you're a faggot)

[Anonymous No.17639018]

>>17638983
Great, then fucking leave and go there. Everyone here, and in your personal life, genuinely hates you. I have told you before man, the best way to get the attention you so desperately want in life is to kill yourself.

[WeedBrahski !6YaY21J9x2 No.17639036]

>>17639018
pls stop posting. you actually have no genuine understanding of markets at all. your posts take away from this thread.

[Anonymous No.17639068]

>>17639036
replace the "you/your" with "i/my" and it makes perfect sense.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.17639074]

happy sunday

[Anonymous No.17639080]

>>17638972
Except for basic patterns and resistance and support lines I stopped bothering with TA mostly. Just seems like its a waste of time.
Trends and fundamentals seem much better and I earn way more with that.

Not saying its the best but its what works for me.

[Anonymous No.17639091]

>>17639074
Compared to the other fag youre a genuine and actually interesting poster, Baggie
As strange as that is

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.17639094]

>>17639068
tripfag pronouns are they them theirs you misgendering son of a bitch

[Anonymous No.17639096]

>>17639091
He's as bad as the rest, faggot

[Anonymous No.17639100]

>>17638811
so far, a handful.
in a month, several thousands.
by summer, millions.

i know, it's hard to grasp exponential growth.

[Anonymous No.17639101]

>>17639080
honestly, if i've learned anything, it's that despite how sexy everyone finds the indicators to be, the real key to success is in risk management and psychology, and you'll hear this parroted a lot by the pros. the price action analysis just gives you better than 50/50 odds, the real success comes ultimately from cutting your losers short and letting your winners run, and being profitable over a large sample size of trades.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.17639122]

The Saudi's dropped like 8% last night. I don't know if the bleeding is going to stop when futures open. Hopefully oil gets a little bounce.

[Anonymous No.17639123]

>>17636801
Probably nothing. s&p is minimum two days away from on indication to long ir short from current chart position. All cash.

[Anonymous No.17639138]

>>17639100
by winter, billions and humanity goes extinct, doomer?

[Anonymous No.17639145]

>>17639100

>Inb4 summer arrives and people have practically forgotten about the whole thing because most of the world aren’t chinks with horrific hygiene

[Anonymous No.17639175]

>>17639101
Yeah. My biggest problem is my inability to let my winners run
Im way to careful. I am trying to counter this a bit atm though. You can always improve.

[Anonymous No.17639212]

>>17639175
the key to that is scaling out. i like to sell half my position at whatever my initial risk is, in profit. then you can either move your stop up to break even and let your exit indicator tell you when to get out, or set a trailing stop at break even and let it go however far it goes. it means once you hit 1R in profit you have a guaranteed winning trade and it's just a question of how much you're going to win, worst case scenario you make 1R on half your position and break even on the other half. the money made from scaling out also helps to cover any times where you get stopped out completely, and the legit successful trends are where you make the big bucks ultimately since the other stuff tends to cancel itself out.

[Anonymous No.17639220]

>>17639138
>>17639145
it's just a prank bro

but it's when people don't take it seriously that it can get serious

[Anonymous No.17639237]

>>17639100
>le sad man despair face
you can leave retard. No one intelligent believes corona will kill us all.

[Anonymous No.17639256]

Who here /shortingGreece/

[Anonymous No.17639280]

Noob here, should I spend all my cash on long term at the money calls on $GLD?

[Anonymous No.17639300]

>>17639237

[Anonymous No.17639318]

>>17635013
Whats going to happen with Quest Diagnostics?

[Anonymous No.17639371]

How long are people holding their options for in this type of volatile market?

[Anonymous No.17639374]

>>17638881
so what's your advicerino, brah? I'm from crypto, basically just started reading up on the stocks market. At first I wanted to buy SPY puts but then I learned about VIX (meaning the said puts have a very high premium atm kek). If I believe the shit is about to go down and the recession is upon us, what's the best way to make money on the stock market?

[Anonymous No.17639392]

>>17639145
actually chinks immediately locked up other chinks. in europe/usa, people escape quarantines to go hiking lol (and infect others kek)

[Anonymous No.17639410]

*tossisce*
..raghi

[Anonymous No.17639519]

>>17639371
Minutes

[Anonymous No.17639524]

>>17639374
why not try just shorting /ES futures instead? 1 point on the S&P is worth $50 for a single contract, which i believe are quarterly. none of this premium bullshit, and 50-60 point trends are not uncommon during regular trading hours. hell you make just 10 points on 1 contract that's $500, do that once a day and you don't have to work a day job anymore.

[Anonymous No.17639564]

This is important. VERY VERY IMPORTANT. All eyes should be on the repo market and how cases expand in both the US and Germany right now. We need fags with solid knowledge to be able to dissect this as both economies have been having reoccurring liquidity crisis and both are about to go into partial shutdown at the same time.

[Anonymous No.17639604]

>>17639564
how do i check out the repo market?

[Anonymous No.17639637]

>>17639564
i dont even know how to interpret information on this subject and i doubt that i can learn it in a day. so will just continue to stay in cash i guess.

[Anonymous No.17639640]

someone bake a new bread

[Anonymous No.17639678]

>>17639640
You do it

[Anonymous No.17639705]

>>17639678
OK

>>17639702

>>17639702

>>17639702

>>17639702

>>17639702

[Anonymous No.17639735]

>>17639392
to be fair though the chinese have god awful hygiene:

not washing their hands with soap (water only), washing their hands rarely (only if you get something visibly on them), not refrigerating their food, not eating all kinds of wild animals not checked for any conditions and they spit everywhere and blow snot out of their nose in public (not using handkerchiefs).

so even if self-quarantined people would escape in free countries it might not be so bad. also most people in civilized countries seem to understand that they need to stay home if told to stay at home, meanwhile in china people don't think rules actually apply to them which is why they literally need to bolt infected people's doors shut because otherwise those people would just wander out anyway (not with the intention of infecting but because they don't really understand its a big deal and that they WILL infect others)

[Anonymous No.17639748]

>>17639735
>not eating all kinds of wild animals not checked for any conditions
remove first not