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>> No.17519425

>>17519420
>every vice article ever

>> No.17519433 [DELETED] 

ANON TRANNIES GET THE BAG YOU CANT CENSOR ME U STUPID FAGS

>> No.17519445

Market will pop green to wojak you fuckers then dump biblically

3/6 expiry RISE UP

>> No.17519451

What should I spend 2k on this monday?

>> No.17519456
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>>17519445
STOP SAYING BIBLICAL

>> No.17519460

Imagine being a bull rn
Its like a junkie that needs his fix

>> No.17519463
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How low can you go!?

>> No.17519464
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17519464

Sup /smg/ I am a guy in my late 20's that works a very easy job (most of the time) with a pretty decently disposable income. I usually save money until I get bored and then I go buy something nice or out it into some stonks.

Lately I have been wondering if I should just throw all of my disposable income into some options and see how loaded I can get.

Good idea?

>> No.17519472

Are we dumping or pumping tomorrow?

>> No.17519477

>>17519464
Great idea

>> No.17519479

>>17519472
Expect fed/ppt to do everything today.

If you see no fed/ppt tonight, it's a clear dumpster day

>> No.17519494

>>17519464
You're like a dude who just read they can make easy money playing online poker.

You're gonna TILT

Just short the market for the next couple months then go long good div-yielding companies

Who else has a list of REITs for when they go south?

>> No.17519497
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17519497

We're all fucked.

>> No.17519499

>>17519456
BIBLIOTECA

>> No.17519503

>>17519425
remember when VICE actually did cool shit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo

>2012

feels bad man...

>> No.17519508

>>17519497
cringe and basic white girl pilled

>> No.17519510

>>17519464
put VIX puts @ 12

>> No.17519523
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17519523

Reminder that this is the big brained guy giving you financial advice.

>> No.17519525

>>17519494
COLD, PEAK, MAA are my chosen REITs

>> No.17519527

We got 300+ infected in washington

Who knows what other clusters exist

Italy is at a crisis in Lombardy with ICU/doctor/healthcare supply already. Headlines of looking for doctors and nurses desperately among the retired.

>> No.17519532

imagine not being complete bear and full short when companies are overleveraged and need sales to keep their lights on, and then a supply shortage happens and you think this is crypto and comapnies will just bounce back because "muh oversold" holy fuck theres going to be so many seething faggots lose their im money im gonna roll around laughing at you retarded anon trannies.

>> No.17519535

>>17519525
Thnx brah

>> No.17519537
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>>17519523
And that he like all tripfags are Stocktwits PND shills.

>> No.17519538

>>17519523
we should just assume all tripfags are felons. we should make it a meme to respond to anything they say with "sorry, don't listen to/take advice from felons, lmao", who's with me?

>> No.17519540

>>17519503
Yea literally I used to watch them all the time because they covered a lot of shit the MSM wouldn't. They had some good stuff showing what an absolute waste the Middle East is and why we should just fuck off and let them eat each other. I was too busy to watch documentaries for a few years and when I came back remembering Vice I was greeted with basically 2020 Vox. Now it's "omg ebil white people"

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>>17519425

>> No.17519561
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>>17519527
It's literally in every state now.

>> No.17519568

>Just learned how to short
>Now too afraid to do it this week because I feel like there will be 1 or 2 fake out green days

>> No.17519572

>>17519503
They changed after Warner Bros. and Disney got involved

>> No.17519574

/ourexpert/

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3053055/coronavirus-hong-kong-expert-claims-disease-now

A top medical expert in Hong Kong believes the coronavirus epidemic can now be labelled a global pandemic, as it has spread quickly across several countries.

Professor Gabriel Leung, dean of the University of Hong Kong’s (HKU) medical faculty, added the first death recorded in the United States was worrying, as it indicated there could be more confirmed cases in the country.

However, the World Health Organisation has stopped short of calling the outbreak a pandemic, with director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus saying health officials had not yet witnessed the “uncontained global spread”, or “large-scale severe disease or death” associated with a pandemic.

But speaking on a radio show on Sunday, Leung said the death in the US could be “the tip of the iceberg”.

>> No.17519587

>>17519497
That’s bretty gud.
>>17519510
I have the same position but I opened it last Thursday kek, down almost 1k right now.
>>17519523
Never change, angry anon. Don’t give the tripfags an inch.
>>17519527
Yeah the WA state one is bad, more deaths incoming because it got into a nursing home.

Also buy TMDX.

>> No.17519600

>>17519574
ITS BEEN IN WASHINGTON SINCE JAN 15 RETARDS, ITS GONE UNNOTICED FOR 6 FUCKING WEEKS. ENJOY GETTING DICKED ANY DAY NOW WHEN THE TESTS START PILING UP.

>> No.17519619

>>17519572
just like star wars, eh? it's kind of funny how every time they take white straight men out of things and replace them with liberal women and minorities, everything goes to shit. every fucking time, it's crazy. i mean at what point does it go from being racist to just literal fact?

>> No.17519623
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17519623

buy the dip

>> No.17519627

>>17519600
Prove this virus is even worth shutting down manufacturing for

Its literally not

>> No.17519635

>>17519587
oof

>> No.17519644

>>17519623
it keeps dipping, anon.

IT KEEPS DIPPING.

>> No.17519655

>>17519627
I CAN PROVE YOURE RETARDED JSUT BY THE STATEMENT YOU MADE MORON

>> No.17519654

>>17519644
THEN YOU KEEP BUYING
AND IF DIPS SOME MORE
YOU BUY SOME MORE
DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CASH TO BUY MORE?
SELL YOUR FUCKING HOUSE

>> No.17519657

>>17519627
The market will at least temporarily go green just because of how many gambling retards need it to go red. Goldman will get theirs.

>> No.17519658

>>17519600
>>17519587
https://nextstrain.org/ncov

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>>17519623
What is gonna be your guys dip buying strategy? I am think of incremental buying the dip at about 100 dollars a day, once we see a week of 3 green days.

>> No.17519673

>>17519654
I DID

NOW I HAVE NO HOUSE AND IT KEEPS DIPPING ANON

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

>> No.17519675

>>17519623
IMAGINE BUYING BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT THATS THE DIP. YOU GUYS ARE THE RETAIL RETARDS WHO WILL GET ABSOLUTELY SMASHED WHEN THE MARKET TANKS/SIDEWAYS FOR THE NEXT 1-2 YEARS. ITS LIKE BUYING THE 2008 "DIP" WHEN IT KEPT "DIPPING" KEK MYYYYYYYYYYYYY SIDEEEEEEEEEEEEES

>> No.17519677

>>17519456
Never the gullible bible thumping boomers needs to hear doom and gloom late week so I can profit

>> No.17519682

I, for one, believe we should threaten China with military intervention if they don't drop the quarantine.

>> No.17519685

>>17519627
I don’t think it is but as somebody who has spent a fair amount of time in nursing homes, those grandmas are fucked. The standard of care is so poor even in the best of them and they aren’t typically in the best of health to begin with. They are unfortunately the pt population which I’ve been saying are most at risk for a while now.

>> No.17519688

Twelve more patients in England have tested positive for coronavirus, taking the total number of UK cases to 35.

Three patients were close contacts of a known case which was transmitted in the UK, chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty said.

One person from Essex had "no relevant travel" and it was unclear how they had contracted the virus.

Out of the remaining eight cases, six had recently returned from Italy and two had been to Iran.

Those eight patients were from London, West Yorkshire, Greater Manchester, Hertfordshire and Gloucestershire and include:


>UK

>> No.17519703

>>17519658
That’s a good resource, thanks man.

>> No.17519707

>>17519655
Okay, so while we're trying to defeat a virus by hiding under rocks why don't we also try to get rid of Influenza at the same time. I mean, why not right? This would be our best chance to do it!

Oh wait, it's pointless to let the sniffles ruin your day.

>> No.17519718

>>17519688
how old are the people dying though? still really old as fuck?

>> No.17519719

I literally cannot imagine what it must be like to be so stupid that you think pandemics are a bull market. 60% of the population is going to be sick and bedridden you imbeciles.

>> No.17519728

>>17519666
Unironically .5% of my total cash each day until we’re back to a 1y trend line. Til then my funny money is in puts.

>> No.17519734

>>17519685
Yeah my grandma is gonna die she survived stage 4 lung cancer and had her lungs crystalized by the meds she barely barely barely beat that shit

Shes strong but she lives in portland oregon so shes the perfect candidate to get merked by this shit

The only thing she has going for her is she hates gooks

>> No.17519740

>>17519707
the boomers are the most heavily invested in the markets and the boomers are also the only ones dying from this shit, it's really no wonder the market is tanking. meanwhile we young people are not heavily invested and laughing all the way to the bank with shorts/puts.

>> No.17519744

>>17519707
dude are you actually fucking retarded? the flu is a standard virus that hasnt mutated. CVD is the flu + SARS (BASICALLY GIVE OR TAKE), it attacks the lungs and causes severe pneumonia you stupid inbred dumbfuck.

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>>17519688
IS LONDON FROG ANON GONNA BE OKAY?????

>> No.17519750

>>17519719
Lol at least do some research

>> No.17519753

Friendly reminder to not engage and report trips

>> No.17519767

>>17519750
Yes every thick-headed bull always just claims it's going to go up with no reasoning behind it whatsoever other than muh oversold. PE ratios are still absurd and stocks are still not cheap.

>> No.17519769

>>17519740
I'm not saying don't take advantage of the situation but you should probably realize bears try to time the market just as much as bulls

>> No.17519771

>>17519744
ALSO WE HAVE HERD IMMUNITY TO THE FLU BECAUSE ITS BEEN AROUND SO LONG. THIS IS NEW. HOLY FUCK BIZ /SMG/ ANON TRANNIES ARE ACTUALYL RETARDED LMFAO.

>> No.17519775
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17519775

Any anons holding:

SQQQ
SDOW
SPXU

Thinking about throwing 10k at 'em.

>> No.17519777

Looking at

20,000-50,000 cases in Iran
1,000+ cases in USA

These are very unreliable

R0 will drop as behaviors change in effected areas. It doesn't really matter as long as it stays above 1. The moment measures relax the R0 climbs back up.

>> No.17519785

>>17519744
You know, the devil is the prince of lies. You are however, the king.

>> No.17519786

>>17519753
>muh oversold
>proceeds to give muh overbought reasoning

>> No.17519787

>>17519775
WAIT FOR THE FAIL ATTEMPT OF A PUMP AND SHORT IT

>> No.17519791

>>17519775
I like being most risky at the most predictable move downs, aka first 10% or so. Taking less risk on my shorts progressively all the way down. Not in any of those only puts.

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>>17519734
In her case, this virus is about as dangerous as any other infection. I’m sorry she’s not in the best way, make sure you tell her you love her.
>t. Male psychiatric nurse

>> No.17519798

>>17519771
So you mean to tell me that with NO IMMUNITY only a small fraction of old people die?

Please anon, please think.

>> No.17519800

>>17519786
this is for >>17519767

>> No.17519813

>>17519796
Thanks

>> No.17519815

>>17519798
POST YOUR LONG POSITION SO WE CAN LAUGH IN A WEEK.

>> No.17519816

>>17519800
Yes just ignore the pandemic you utter simpleton.

>> No.17519822

>>17519771
Bro, you’re mentally ill. Take a break from /biz/ for a while.

>> No.17519825

>>17519815
So in the previous thread I stated that 3-4 out of the 5 trading days will be red next week

>> No.17519844

>>17519822
Marijuana addicts tend to create a fantasy world that is moderately detached from reality. It's quite fun, but eventually they need to realize it's highly unlikely they're doing themselves any favors.

>> No.17519847

>>17519816
i said nothing about the pandemic, i just pointed out that you think bulls are thick headed because they think stocks are oversold and on the very next sentence you claim that stocks are overbought. I don't understand how you can't see it

>> No.17519857

LITERALLY SHORT ON THE WAY DOWN AND LONG ON THE WAY UP, IT'S NOT THAT HARD

THE ONLY PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ARE BOOMERS WHO HAVE BEEN DCA'ING FOR DECADES, FUCK 'EM WHO CARES WHAT HAPPENS TO DUMB BOOMERS

>> No.17519864

reminder

the consumer is pessimistic on the way down too. Spending, vacations, etc will decrease. Fear effects people in all ways. Auto sales, etc.

It's not like the only thing going to effect market is purely the healthcare costs and deaths.

Being sick and quarantined at home for 14+ days even in mild cases. What will a business do if someone tests positive. What will your tech investment company do if someone at the HQ was sick and just in 10 meetings with various employees? R&D? Development?

We aren't just looking at old people in nursing homes dying as well. 30+ die, 45+ die, and thats a lot of healthcare professionals, workers, scientists, engineers etc.

Also think that every country has to deal with this. Some simply can't and that small death rate with medical assistance will be a little larger.

>> No.17519869

>>17519857
BASED. SHORT THE TOP, LONG THE BOTTOM.

ZOOMERS THINK WERE AT THE BOTTOMERINO

>> No.17519874

>>17519847
I think they're thick-headed because of the pandemic as I said in the first post I made in this thread. I'm countering their one and only "counterargument" (which is wrong), with a simple statistic showing that we are, in fact, in a bubble.

>> No.17519876

>>17519857
Nobody that has been DCAing for decades cares about this.

>> No.17519880

>>17519869
Turn off your caps you mouth breathing shitskin felon.

>> No.17519883

>>17519864
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY USE THEIR NOGGING ON HERE.

>> No.17519885

>>17519864
Major companies on Monday will begin to ban interstate travel in the lower 48 due to the West Coast cases

>You heard it here first

>> No.17519890

>>17519472
We just had a big dump. Possible we get some bounce back after losing 1k every day for a week. But i wouldnt necessarily close out puts. I got both myself and will keep moving back and forth between both.

>> No.17519892

>>17519876
My account inception is summer 2018. Can't boomer my way to these returns without playing the game.

>> No.17519893

Odds of a pump Monday morning?
I know this shit is going down long term but wouldn’t put it past the market to pump at open to fuck options holders.

>> No.17519900

>>17519876
IMAGINE NOT CARING ABOUT POTENTIALLY LOSING 40-60% OF YOUR PORFOLIORINO KEK MY SIDES

>> No.17519915

>>17519464
I have made 20k from 500 in Robinhood on options. You don’t have to be smart to play it right, put in 10k and see how it goes

>> No.17519923

>>17519420
Who here is in VSTM? Market is crashing but we made 46% on Friday and looking to continue the run tomorrow

>> No.17519927

>>17519893
Market will pump because of the stupidity of the erect, stampeding bulls who lack worldliness and can't understand the current situation.

>> No.17519933

>>17519900
You create a lot of doubt in me that you understand how DCAing works.

I feel bad for this, I thought I was better than ignoring tripfags, but I won't continue to spend time on this.

>> No.17519944

>>17519927
oh no not a pump

>> No.17519949

>>17519472
yes

>> No.17519951

>>17519893
Im just saying you have an entire day to make a hilarious pink wojak for a stock market increase that makes everyone lose 90% of their money in 1 hour

>> No.17519972

>>17519927
Panic is merely a choice even in the worst of situations

>> No.17519973

>>17519951
I just want another few days of CNBC running nonstop pieces of trash begging the fed for emergency cuts because they over-leveraged

h*dge funds are garbage

>> No.17519976

>>17519933
YOU CLEARLY LACK ANY PRACTICAL MATH UNDERSTANDING.

EVEN IF YOU THREW IN 10K BACK IN 1990 AND NOW HAVE 1M, A 40-60% DROP WIPES OUT 400-600K YOU FAGGOT. LMFAO.

>> No.17519987

>>17519973
>emergency cuts
They got nothing left to cut

>> No.17519992

>>17519976
BUHBUHBUH I DCA'D IN AND LOST 400-600K BY SAYING 'IT DOESNT AFFECT ME' FUCKING RETARD. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE GIVING "ADVICE" ON THIS MONGOLIAN STREET SHITTING FORUM. LMFAO. IMAGINE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO ANY ANON TRANNY.

>> No.17519996

>>17519973
>over-leveraged

it's the 1920's all over again, isn't it? panic selling death spiral snowballing from people who thought that stocks would only ever go up?

>> No.17520001

>>17519976
They don't care. They aren't timing the market with that wealth. As long as they didn't over-leverage into the drop they are fine. They probably also didn't keep 100% in equities and can DCA in.

the people who need a lesson learned, already learned it by being heavily levered into last week and buying each bull trap. They are broke and won't be back in this thread for a few years.

>> No.17520004

>>17519972
Businesses and therefore stocks are not going to be profitable when people aren't going to work or buying anything. It's not a matter of emotions. This market is guaranteed to tank in the long run. Only a fool would hold stocks long term at this point.

>> No.17520007

>>17519973
+1

A 30% or 40% correction would be healthy for the system

Blow out the overlevered long/short boys

Recalibrate ETF allocations

Sink the nu-tEcH IPOs

Flush Dorsey and the Twatter gang

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market prices tend to move in a way that bogs the most retail traders.
I think some people will get snibbed this week.

>> No.17520017

>the market has only gone up in 30 years

Please put the bong down

>> No.17520021

>>17519996
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-25/hedge-funds-ramped-up-leverage-in-stocks-just-before-market-rout

They just can't beat the SPY but they love fees (the 90% of funds)

>> No.17520024

>>17519775
I nearly doubled my investment last week with SPXS, TVIX, and SDOW (tips on realignment, thread?) but I think I'm going to get out while the getting's good.

Until later in the week when the Fed's cut fails and the downward trajectory intensifies. >:)

>> No.17520033

>>17519864
>the consumer is pessimistic on the way down too
Consumer confidence was still rising last week.

>> No.17520047

>>17520001
there were no actually bull traps last week. smart money unloaded their shares on retail retards who thought they were "buying the dip" now as soon as the market dips again and those "buy the dip" retards are underwater they'll start selling. this will cascade into another shitstorm dump. now the REAL bull trap will probably be in a few weeks-month when the CVD news dies down a little bit and people think "were back being bull", smart money will trap retard money again because once earnings start coming in itll be a shittstorm. inb4 some retarded dumbass in here thinks hes smart and says "itll be priced in" no it wont you dumb faggot.

>> No.17520054

>>17520033
sounds like a sound bet and something to believe in going forward. high consumer confidence

>> No.17520066

>>17519976
After 30 years you lower your exposition to stocks.

>> No.17520067

>>17520047
So where is the bottom on SPY? 280? 250? 200?

>> No.17520082

>>17520054
It sounds like data instead of your doomer opinion based on your ass.

>> No.17520097

>>17520082
Maybe you should rub a few brain cells together and try to figure out what is different about this week compared to last week.

>> No.17520103

>>17520067
how the hell would anyone know? the market is riddled with dumb money right now and they need to be taught a lesson, companies are over leveraged, every idiot with an office is running a hedge fund, and retail think this is a "buy the dip" opportunity. 1-2 years to run this market into the ground/crab. realistically - probability wise - the earliest vaccine for CVD will be next winter. this means even if we get through the first wave of CVD, itll come back in the fall just like the spanish flu did and was much more devastating. again if you think youre smart money buying the dip after a week, youre going to learn a very painful lesson. BUT WHAT DO I KNOW.

>> No.17520106

>>17519951
Fingers crossed

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17520116

Guys, is it spreading in the US or is this disinfo?

>https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

>> No.17520124

>>17520116
it is 100% spreading in the US and the whole planet

>> No.17520127

>>17520082
ironic because if you backtested my "ass" it got a huge multiple on whatever returns the SPY got since inception.

I was also up approx 100% returns for 2020 before thursday when the correction began

hmm

but yes

imagine to yourself consumer confidence is high and invest that way

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17520137

What puts are you guys doing?

>> No.17520138

>>17520116
of course it is, you thought usa would be safe? kek it will spread in every major city in the world.

>> No.17520150

>>17520138
>>17520124
The issue is that none of those cases have been reported. This is saying there is a confirmed case in Boston, NY, ~20 in CA, Texas, etc etc. None of that was in the news.

>> No.17520156

>>17520116
It's spreading. First case just confirmed in Rhode Island, so it's on both sides of the states now.

>> No.17520157

>>17520150
you didnt actually think they would just report cases of "the flu bro"? did you?

>> No.17520159

>>17520137
welp
where this bitch at
cause i might know her
those birdies are real familiar

>> No.17520160

>>17519523
Nobody cares anon.

>> No.17520171

>>17520127
There have been people fearmongering about recession in last years, imagine having invested that way.

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>>17520150
they don't want to make you panic.

>> No.17520175

>>17520067
i love people who think this way, trying to call bottoms.

at a LITERAL MINIMUM, at LEAST wait until the short, medium, and long-term trends are up again instead of down. back it up with FA showing that nCoV is over and things are going to begin returning to normal. do this at an absolute minimum, it's common sense but i guess that isn't so common anymore.

>> No.17520187

>>17520150
The origin of the confirmed cases is important to note here. Confirmed cases of known origin are far less serious than confirmed cases of unknown origin (community spread). The latter implies that the virus is "out there" and spreading exponentially. Corona-chan is coming for you.

>> No.17520190

>>17520175
another BASED poster who understands

>> No.17520199

>>17519987
>They got nothing left to cut
Yes they do. 25 bips from 2018 hike frenzy are still in place. They can cut that and 25 more if needed.

>> No.17520211

>>17519464
There is a learning curve to options; it is honestly like gambling. Only play stocks/etfs with high volumes (like SPY).

>> No.17520213

>>17520013
Yep. Waaaaay too many normies asking about how to short.

>> No.17520224

>>17520199
let me guess you have no business/econ background at all and just talking out your ass, thinking the FED can do anything during a health crisis to get the economy stimulated right?

>> No.17520231

>>17520190
what bothers me is that isn't not even that hard or complicated.

>the long term trend is falling
>the medium term trend is falling and below the long term trend
>the short term trend is falling and is below the medium-term trend
>BETTER BUY THIS SHIT!

i mean ffs what the hell is wrong with people? do they hate money?

>> No.17520236

>>17520103
>1-2 years to run this market into the ground/crab.
Nope. Cancermon can’t digivolve into UltimaKingCrabmon until the central banks coordinated global zero bound interest rates (the event horizon moment for bond markets). As long as banks can still cut rates, markets will slingshot higher on cheapo leverage.

>> No.17520238

>>17520137
I'm holding 3 SQQQ puts for June

Market will be volatile but flat next week and then they'll triple when it upticks

>> No.17520237

>>17520213
>calls someone a normie
>thinks fed policy will fix a health crisis
yep, normie confirmed.

>> No.17520243

>>17520224
Goalpost shifting.

>> No.17520245

>>17520231
their feelings tell them things that are wrong and they are unable to listen to reason.

>> No.17520254

>>17519927
Sounds like people who thought Hillary was gonna win lmaooo

>> No.17520260

So guys how much we've been losing since Corona?

Me around 2700.

>> No.17520265

>>17520231
yepyepyep. its what happens when these institutions release fee-free trading because they need liquidity in the system to dump on. then these retards sign-up enmasse after some dipshit posts his calls and how he made 40k into 3m off tesla calls, which then stampedes the rest of the retards to come in. and then they think "stonks only go up" because theyve never actually be exposed to a bear market, and now they think theyre smart money "buying the dip". im telling you, the happening/justening is going to be fucking BIBLICAL. so many retards rekt.

>> No.17520269
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17520269

Hey Humans, My name is COVID-19 and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, multi-cellular lifeforms who spend every second of their day running around polluting the planet. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever caused a national state of emergency? I mean, I guess it's fun destroying the environment because of greed, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse then an incurable immunodeficiency retrovirus. Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best vaccine. I'm pretty much perfect. I was formed from avian and human transmittable viruses undergoing a phenotypic mix. Where did you come from, other than "DNA shot into an egg"? I also can transfer between you, not just pigs like this one (She just got infected by me; Shit was SO rash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening. Pic Related: It's me and my host

>> No.17520271

>>17520260
Down 2%

Lrn2investn00b

>> No.17520280

>>17520254
Incidentally, I made money betting on Donald Trump, who I also voted for. The people who think the market is going up are the same people who deny climate change and think "it's just the flu".

>> No.17520282

>>17520269
You're so cute, corona chan.

>> No.17520284

>>17519445
this
get your discounted puts on monday

>> No.17520286

>use dark pool indicator to track institutional investing
>laugh when people try to tell me retail traders are the ones buying

>> No.17520289

>>17519494
Not bad advice desu

>> No.17520291

DCAing into buying makes a ton of sense. Please do not tell people not to DCA buy.

That's very different than putting all sidelines money into the market. If people even have sidelines money. At once one of these days thinking it's a V recovery.

It could be a V recovery, but the probabilities are kinda meh to buy in with everything.

Since we are dealing with probabilities though DCAing makes the most sense of any buy/sell strategy for consistency. Depends on appetite for risk.

>> No.17520292

>>17520245
honestly i just think most people hate math, even though average price isn't a particularly advanced concept. not that there aren't more complicated things that can be added to that to make trading decisions more accurate, sure, but you can do a lot of damage with literally just a short, medium, and long term EMA if you know how to read price action.

>> No.17520297

I just found out according to DNC rules, those super delegates that come in on the second ballot count for 2 votes and pledged delegates count for half a vote? As long as 2 of the 3 (mini-mike, sleepy joe, and pocahontas) don't drop out it's pretty much impossible for Bernie to get the nod.

>> No.17520299

This is a threadly reminder that bear talk keeps everyone from gaining

The market will continue to inflate cuz social security is due to run out. People use 401ks to save for retirement which will pump the market indefinitely.

Be mindful of stupid scares like covid, but don't lose faith. You have absolutely no reason to believe the market will crash

>> No.17520300

>>17519675
Imagine being a pussy faggot with no assets and watching tranny porn all day

>> No.17520304
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>>17520260
I'm down a couple of things but overall I ended each day last week up about 9 or 10% thanks to some cheeky SPY/SPXL puts. I closed out everything that was in the green on Friday. I'm going to see what Monday brings before I jump back in.

>> No.17520314

Who else is shorting airline companies, guys?

>> No.17520315

>>17519494
good advice, that's been my strategy so far
mostly puts, with some small positions in hedged high dividend funds, DIAX is my choice, they sell calls and don't afraid of anyone.

>> No.17520319

>>17520265
>when these institutions release fee-free trading because they need liquidity in the system to dump on.

really, you think that's it? the people most helped by that change are day trading scalpers like me, not long term DCA boomers. also your wallstreetbets is showing.

>> No.17520323

>>17520299
>You have absolutely no reason to believe the market will crash
Lol. Good lord you are stupid. Google the business cycle you cretin.

>> No.17520328

What stocks should I buy now that the market have gone down because of the corona virus?

>> No.17520332

>>17520116
It's already in every state

>> No.17520334

>>17520328
why do you think it's done going down?

>> No.17520335

>>17520297
If I had to place a bet right now. I would put it all on Bloomberg to buy the nomination in the brokered deal. He's got enough cash to pay off all the super delegates via future campaign contributions, since the majority of the super delegates are going to want more money in future elections. If he doesn't he might just give the DNC the finger and pull all his money out of the race all together, and the democrats are really hurting for cash right now.

>> No.17520340

Lent is lame sorry God but I want ghost pepper wings and beer

>> No.17520344

>>17520291
ex

if you assume an X% chance of a V recovery. Sold Friday. Buying with a small % of money back into positions makes sense. It's not the wrong move even if the market continues it's downward trend to -50%.

If your expectations of the market are non-probabilistic and absolute, good fucking luck.

>> No.17520353

>>17520334
I think it will get much worse, but what stocks should I look out for?

>> No.17520357

>>17520319
yes. it gives people confidence they can make trades without having to incur a fee every trade because they dont have enough starting capital so that these fees dont eat up their portfolio. if you started with a 5k portfolio and lost $16 each trade buying/selling that can add up to be significant and be the difference between being profitable/and not. if theres no fee's youre able to buy/sell easier knowing that if the trade turns sour you can leave without losing $16 + incurring the loss. also your wallstreetbets is showing.

>> No.17520358

>>17520314
i'm shorting exv9 on monday

>> No.17520359

>>17520353
just buy inverse ETFs that go up when the market goes down

>> No.17520362

>>17520265
Ironic that the Tesla ahorts were BTFO by short squeeze after short squeeze, capitulated (which triggered the retail rush into Tesla) and then Corona-chan slammed Muskrat lower by 30%+

>> No.17520364

>>17520156
Was that a case which couldn't be tracked? Unknown origin or w/e it is?

>> No.17520370

>>17519420
3001 DEATHS
42738 RECOVERED

FATALITY RATE OF THIS VIRUS IS 7%

WHY THE HELL ARE THEY SAYING ITS JUST A FLU?

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>>17519494
I'm a fan of NRZ, it has actually fared pretty well the past couple weeks. 2022 calls with $20 strikes are like $10, very cheap.

>> No.17520380

>>17520353
anything that's down significantly, but doesn't have a chance of going bankrupt if things get really bad
dividend stocks and consumer staples especially

>> No.17520381

>>17520359
I want to profit from the dips

>> No.17520387

>>17520358
this shit is illiquid as fuck btw.. short the stocks in that list

>> No.17520389

>>17520370
its just the flu go back to consuming goy, go out to that restaurant, go to that sporting event, go to the movies, buy a new car goy, buy a new house.

>> No.17520393

>>17520381
uhhh I just told you how to do that?

>> No.17520398

what is the bull case anyway
relatively containable before the spring, transmissiblity drops over the summer and vaccine by the fall? It seems so unlikely

>> No.17520410

>>17520370
>FATALITY RATE OF THIS VIRUS IS 7%
vast majority of death are 80 year olds. then those in their 70s.
If you are under 40 you have 0.2% of dying from it.

>> No.17520413

>>17520377
Your image is ignorant. Covid is likely to kill millions this year.

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17520414

What are you retarded doomfags going to do in the spring or summer when the world is still turning and millions of people aren't dead in the streets? Serious question, kek. Tripfags need not reply btw.

>> No.17520416

>>17520370
economic damage

Economic damage of people dying and being sick

or Economic damage of people dying and being suck + economic damage of extended panic and people refusing to work/travel/spend

Minimizing panic while letting the disease run it's course with minimal intervention is efficient.

China tried to do something extremely challenging in stopping the spread at a late stage, close economy, and pray for no 2nd hump up after re-opening economy.

>> No.17520417

>>17520398
in the short/mid term there is no bullcase.

>> No.17520420
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17520420

In the last 2 weeks I've traveled through 6 airports with the last one a few days ago. Woke up today feeling slightly hungover with increasing headache and pain in neck as the day has gone on. Also have shit building up in my throat pretty quickly. Only had a glass of wine last night. No man, nooooooooo.

>> No.17520425

>>17520304
the alarmed capitalist will never not make me laugh.

>> No.17520426

>>17520410
coronachan is literally the boomer killer. aren't you happy?

>> No.17520428

>>17520410
Obese people have a much higher risk. It's not just elderly. America is fucked. People are sleeping on this virus because it hit conscientious, thin asians first. When it hits the obese nigs, spics, and homeless you will see how severe it is.

>> No.17520431

>>17520428
based

>> No.17520433

>>17520357
ah you're talking about people with tiny accounts, i see that makes sense. for me it really opened up the potential to make a ton of small trades intraday, which would otherwise destroy you with fees that likely eat up most of your profits.

>> No.17520437

>>17520286
We have massive tute investment in VSTM and we just had a $100 million private placement offering.

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>>17520413
It's not, bro. I'm a medfag and I can assure you that it will not. Only time will tell which one of us will be correct lol.

The economic damage the virus could inflict is significant but the cost in terms of human lives is minimal. The nursing home patients? They're probably done for, almost certainly most of them will die and there will be a huge panic in the news but people like you and be who are healthy will be fine.

>> No.17520442

>>17520414
Millions dying does not spell doom. It's just what's going to happen based on historical precedent and expert analysis. What are you going to do when your parents/grandparents die?

>> No.17520448

>>17520410
Are you dumb? 7% of people getting it are dying regardless of of if its old or young you retard, this will literally cause economic collapse hospitals will be overwhelmed and mass panic.

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>>17520442
My grandparents have been dead for like 10 years because I have been browsing this website since I was underage b& and are now a 30 y/o boomer arguing with people for fun.

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17520459

Not exactly the place to ask, but I'd like t hear /smg/'s opinion on something.
We're hearing a lot of "billionaires shouldn't exist" stuff from the modern left in the West, but as far as I can see, billionaires only exist because that is the upper limit of the system under which we operate. Am I right?
Doing away with private billionaires would mean reorganising the global financial system in such a way as to prevent that much money/ net worth from being accrued by an individual. Would that not simply mean that each unit of currency becomes worth more, meaning billionaires become millionaires, but maintain proportional wealth?
The only other option I can see would be straight up communism.
Any alternatives, or is that it?

>> No.17520460

>>17520436
Even the most conservative numbers of .2% mortality rate and 1/3 infection rate of the global population is literally millions of deaths. You are a terrible medfag.

>> No.17520461

>>17520414
They'll find something else to panic about.

>> No.17520462

>>17519451
guns and ammo

>> No.17520463

Real talk though: I was looking for good deals and honestly...I kind of think these current valuations are pretty exactly what they should be? I mean if you say China loses 12% of yearly productivity, ALL stocks should be down about 12%...look at Apple, Nvidia, Google Amazon oh whats that down about 12%? lol

Only things right now I can see being somewhat oversold are AMD and TSLA, TSLA I am not even sure about but 15% down on that stock is about from ATH like 790 or so.

AMD can do a run to 50 fairly easily.

25% discount on all stocks is just stupid and will be the bottom imho.

>> No.17520466

>>17520269
wew

>> No.17520468

>>17520428
>Obese people have a much higher risk.
it's even better. usa can get rid of its boomers and fatasses at the same time

>> No.17520475

>>17520448
>hospitals overwhelmed
lmao

Check this link out, dawg. http://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/planning/hpp/meetings/Documents/capability10.pdf

>> No.17520476

>>17520457
You didn't answer the question. What about your parents? Plenty of 50 year olds already died.

>> No.17520482

>>17520468
It's a new dawn
It's a new day
It's a new life for me, yeah
It's a new dawn
It's a new day
It's a new life for me, ooh
And I'm feeling gooooooooood

>> No.17520490

>>17520420
Took the train.

Sat near asian “tourists” wearing flip flops, shorts, face masks — coughing heavily and chugging green teas

Fast forward one week

Hacking coof, bloody nose, headache from sinus inflamed

>tfw NGMI

>> No.17520494

>>17520426
Almost good for the economy long-term after you get past the mass casualties. I could see the most ruthless and least caring of their population leaders letting it spread on purpose.

>> No.17520507

>>17520475
in Paris hospitals are sending people at home because they dont have enough kits to test everybody, despite them having all corona symptoms

>> No.17520520

>>17520433
markets are realistically, today, more defined by gambling than not. and these institutions know that once you can get someone hooked chances are they'll never stop because they love that rush you get from making a lot of money or even losing money but still having that thought at the bad of your head "i can make it all back next trade". these people keep doing dumb shit thats not risk-averse and continuing trying to hit that home run in the markets. slow and steady compounding gains are how you get rich. institutions know this and theyre playing the stupid money by pulling strings around in the markets.

>> No.17520524

>>17520414
>thighhighs

aww fuck my only weakness!

>> No.17520526

>>17520475
if we reach the need for surge in USA no bear is going to care if it's effective or not.

>> No.17520529

>>17520459
Break up the monopolies and stop subsidizing those billionaires using taxpayer money and the problem fixes itself.

>> No.17520531

Rate my strategy:

If a stock goes up in the last 5 seconds I bet it goes up again in the next 5 seconds, if it goes down I bet it goes down.

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>>17520476
I don't think they will, based on my understanding of viral pathologies and the s/sx which they cause. My mom has smoked for a long time so she is probably more at risk then a pt who hasn't, but they are generally healthy and recover from seasonal illnesses well for now. If they were older or had comorbidities like COPD, CHF, emphysema, ESRD, etc, then I would be more worried. Idk man, I'm not trying to say it's literally nothing but it isn't as bad as some people are trying to make it sound. I posted the 2 (two) e-mails my hospital send out about it the other day.
>>17520507
Which is considered the "best" hospital in Paris? I'm curious and want to do some research on their surge capacity.

>> No.17520541

>>17520475
did you really just link an article from 2013?

theres two types of people in smg. those who understand the impact that a virus can cause in a lot of sectors - and were starting to see that now. and the people who are completely oblivious because their entire life they lived as consumers and think the government will protect them.

>> No.17520552

>>17520420
Dry Cough is the first symptom, you had that yet?
Trouble swallowing is the next stage, by that point you should get yourself checked in because the next stage is Pneumonia and fluid building up in your lungs.

>> No.17520558

>>17520490
Megadose vitamin C and D, sleep 10 hours a day

>> No.17520559

>>17520475
It's one thing to say this will work in theory, it's way harder to actually execute it.

>> No.17520560

>>17520414
SOFT

>> No.17520562

>>17520529
Sure, but would that solve the issue these people have, or would they just revise it down to the next plateau when things adjust to take the new paradigm into account?

>> No.17520573

>>17520529
Which monopolies?

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17520574

news isn't looking optimistic for markets

>> No.17520581

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234166351595540485

566 new cases in italy in one fucking day. america is going to get BTFOD so fucking hard jesus christ.

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>>17520559
You're absolutely right, but we have had a few real mass casualty events in the past, where there are no ER or regular ICU beds available and we have made it work. I can't speak for the facilities outside of my city but I think we'll be okay.

>> No.17520592

>>17520314
I have AAL ready to expire friday. Not sure if I should or or sell at the bell tomorrow

>> No.17520596

>>17520552
Not yet, and no fever which is a good sign.

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>>17520592
I would close out while I could.
>>17520414
That’s a man btw.

>> No.17520600

>>17520538
>Which is considered the "best" hospital in Paris? I'm curious and want to do some research on their surge capacity.
no idea
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-on-a-tellement-de-cas-suspects-qu-on-ne-peut-plus-depister-tout-le-monde-29-02-2020-8269836.php

>> No.17520602

>>17520475
>http://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/planning/hpp/meetings/Documents/capability10.pdf

naive

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>>17520592
Should I buy it?

>> No.17520613

>>17520552
I’ve already moved from dry cough to hacking up phlegm

>>17520558
I’m chugging Gatorade
Will switch to Sam Adams BOS lager at 3pm

>> No.17520619

>>17520613
well, that ain't good.

>> No.17520628

>>17520613
>I’m chugging Gatorade
buy PEP
unironically, I've seen MSM start shilling gatorade already

>> No.17520648

>>17520613
gatorade literally does nothing... eat ginger/garlic, lemon, honey, lots of tea to flush it out, etc.

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>>17520552
Influenza A and B both cause pneumonia too. So can strepococcus, staphyloccocus, haemophilus, mycobacterium, uhhhh pertussis, enterovirus, adenovirus. Shit, even CHF can cause pneumonia.

>> No.17520657

>>17520520
the sad thing is that there are more tools and more freely available information on how to make consistent money in the markets than there has ever been. if people are scammers or bullshit, it is easier than ever to call them out on their bullshit and so they are easier to avoid. you can get a complete financial/trading education on the internet, entirely for free. just the cost of internet (which you should already naturally have), and your time.

psychology and risk management is more important than any indicator or high probability setup or chart pattern or whatever. most of my intensive research has gone into figuring out how to eliminate losses as often as possible, and shrink the losses i do get as much as possible. winning is secondary, i started with the presumption of just trying to not lose money and if i can make money beyond that, great. that has grown into a successful career in the markets.

meanwhile most people YOLO shit and lose everything and are financially crippled, it's fucking dumb. you'd think people would know the value of a dollar, you know what i mean? that they'd have more respect for all of the time they put into some shitty job working for the man to earn that dollar in the first place. imagine you're some poorfag who works at wendy's and saves up like 10k after 3 years of working this soul crushing job, then you YOLO that and lose it. now you have to work 3 WHOLE YEARS more JUST to break even, just to get back to zero again. how are people not terrified of that happening, i have no idea.

>> No.17520663

>>17520613
if you're under 40 you aren't a priority patient but better call your doctor to know what do. problem is people going en masse to hospital emergencies at first symptoms.

>> No.17520666

>>17520583
I think the main problem with this virus is that those with that have severe cases (19%) on average have to be on oxygen for 3-4 weeks. The first problem is that we don't have that much spare oxygen in the U.S, the second problem is that many other patients in the hospitals need that oxygen for things other than SARS-CoV2. In my opinion we are in a catch 22 we either let the virus ravage through the country or we quarantine so much so that we destroy the global economy.

>> No.17520669

>>17520599
Might as well it’s up 900%

The real question is what to do with CCL that’s expiring Friday also

>> No.17520679

so what we know

It took 6 weeks for the washington cluster to be discovered. Likely further clusters will be discovered under 6 weeks due to expanded CDC allowance of testing.

Un-linked cases are being discovered readily in Europe and USA still, evidence of further clusters.

Clusters created by Italy, Japan, and Korea internationally may not reveal themselves for 6+ weeks.

Iran is creating further clusters in the Middle East and elsewhere. Their outbreak is linked to China and likely 6+ weeks old.

So what we are seeing is now ground truth in anyway in cases. We are seeing heavily delayed discoveries.

It took Italy with a major outbreak only a week or so to go to 34 dead. That is likely a bit larger of a number than elsewhere in the West at the moment but likely to change.

>> No.17520685

>>17520604
wait Till after the bell and see how much the pump will effect this week, cuz the pump is coming

>> No.17520707

>>17520657
yep. exactly. minimizing losses is how you get winners. people buying this dip while im waiting for the right opportunity to short the next bounce. i dont see any good news improving market conditions after we had 2 months of stalled productivity out of china and now countries are starting to get hit. you could cut rates by 100-200bips and it would do nothing to the markets because consumer confidence is fading quick. look at travel and cruise ships. no one wants to touch a cruise ship today. people are starting to not want to go to airports/travel in a metal tube for 10 hours with people who havent been tested for symptoms. this shit is just starting and lots of money is to be made if youre even slightly ahead of the herd. also the mass exodus of CEO's stepping down only confirms this. they stepped down so they can sell their stock before a massive sell off.

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>>17520602
I've worked in EDs and ICUs for nearly 10 years now man, idk what else to say, you don't have to believe me when I say we'll most likely be okay.
>>17520613
Drink watered down Gatorade, approx. 1/2 water and 1/2 Gatorade. Alternatively, just eat a regular diet and drink water. I think sugary sports drinks are one of the most Jewish scam products on the market kek.
>>17520666
You know that all hospitals have in-line O2 in every bed and it comes from a big compressor, right? Further, a small single person compressor costs like $150 and tons of people with severe lung diseases use them at home. If the power goes out and all we have to rely on are 5 or 10L O2 bottles then we are in big trouble.
>>17520679
If those old folks have the virus they are almost certainly fucked, same as they would be if there was an outbreak of say H1N1. I can't wait to see the media shitstorm.

>> No.17520725

>>17520707
Can you not trade options, weedfag? LMAOing at your life. Stay poor and retarded.

>> No.17520741

>>17520725
ive made more money than you in the last month without options by playing high probability plays. meanwhile youre getting btfo'd every dip, twist, and pivot. get rekt fucking retard.

>> No.17520763

>>17520718
Your 10 years of experience would not help your intuition on this matter.

>> No.17520775

>>17520741
>ive made more money than you in the last month without options
No you haven't. Post portfolio.

>> No.17520781

>>17520775
ok right after you post yours

>> No.17520787

>>17520573
Big Tech for starters. But, generally most of them.

>> No.17520794

>>17520666
>The first problem is that we don't have that much spare oxygen in the U.S,
Beg your pardon?

>> No.17520795

On bear/bull argument

We still are uncertain exactly how this will spread in USA post-alarm. that or in Europe.

Everything is still uncertain of course to the outcome. What we can see though is that a non-alarmed population will likely develop clusters even in USA/Europe meaning R0 > 1 given those base conditions.

>> No.17520802

>>17520669
I closed out my CCL Friday when that inorganic pump started. Nobody ever got hurt closing out in the green. If it dumps Monday afternoon I’m buying back in tho.

>> No.17520806

>>17520781
LMAO, that's not how it works. You made the claim, you have the burden of proof to show that you made more money than I did. You've never posted your portfolio because you're a little pussy. Keep LARPing. Keep coping.

>> No.17520816

>>17520787
Name names of companies you believe meet the criteria of a monopoly.

>> No.17520817

>>17520794
I realize it was a little redundant in retrospect

>> No.17520825

>>17520806
LMFAO hes too scared to post his portfolio and get BTFOD. HAHAHAHAHA.

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>>17520763
4 years of medical school, an ICU residency and thoracic surgery fellowship iwould though kek.

>> No.17520832

>>17520663
Hospitals are for controlled death

This old cowboy just treats with Gatorade, bourbon, coffee and whiskey

Unfortunately, I’m out of cigars

>tfw NGMI

>> No.17520833

>>17519420
>never owned any stocks
>sitting on cash waiting 'muh bubble' to pop since 2016
>tired of not owning stocks like a boomer

do i buy in now?

>> No.17520834

Imagine getting BTFOD by a weed smoking dope that shitposts on a vietnamese coronavirus importing forum. HOLY FUCK MY SIDES, KEK.

>> No.17520837

>>17520323
Dawwww you read an intro to business textbook

You're so fucking educated.

Here, take my millions and manage it

>> No.17520844

>>17520459
all that communism means in a conventional sense is that the heads of state are the ones who get to be the billionaires. stalin, mao, and kim jong-il were living it up while the population lived in abject poverty.

>> No.17520848

>>17520238
Holding off on buying any SQQQ puts. We could definitely go to +$25 on SQQQ sometime this week. Gonna buy 20 strike price puts for June for max cheapies.

>> No.17520852

>>17520833
Way too early to buy back in

>> No.17520856

>>17520825
Last time I offered you $500 to post your portfolio after I posted my own. You're not going to do it, you're just going to keep making up excuses. What a pathetic faggot you are.

>> No.17520857

>>17520648
This.

>> No.17520858

>>17520833
DCA in, portion at a time

>> No.17520865

>>17520833
>>17520852
Look at the graphs for 2008 crisis, see how long it took to bottom out.

>> No.17520866

>>17520833
you know you can bet on stocks going down, not just on them going up, right? it's not betting on them going up, or nothing.

>> No.17520868

>>17520833
"now" as in this year? yes.
"now" as in tomorrow? personally I'd say no

>> No.17520875

>>17520856
dude i literally just took a massive shit on your chest and you willingly took it like the beta cuck you are. ive literally established alpha male dominance over you. kek.

>> No.17520877

>>17520795
the issue is that a lot of the post alarm measures needed to get to R0 < 1 are extremely economically damaging (see the decrease in wuhan cases but the terrible china PMI)
its pretty easy to see a scenario where the worse humanitarian fears are avoided but we have a global recession anyway, particularly this late in the business cycle

>> No.17520898

>>17520875
I'll give you a $1000 CAD if you've made more money than me in the last month. Post portfolio.

>> No.17520903

>>17520877
Correct

And it's unclear if china's measures will even work.

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>>17520898
LMFAO i wipe my ass with a 1000 before i take a shower. holy fuck, imagine being so poor. KEK.

>> No.17520920

>>17520877
It's more about the natural social distancing, hygenic behavior changes, etc that might occur would be enough to reduce it to R0 < 1

I think that's a long shot though. Of course everything I write is probabilistic and not absolute guesses

>> No.17520941

>>17520907
>i wipe my ass with a 1000 before i take a shower
Post portfolio then.

>> No.17520956

>>17520941
>post portfolio
is this /biz/'s equivalent to /fit/'s ''post body''?

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>>17520941
I literally said right after you post yours. Did i cuck you that hard? KEK.

>> No.17520962

>>17520903
you can't even impose China tier measures in the Continental US.
You'd need the Army and National Guard just to lock down California and Texas somewhat.

>> No.17520974

Think about it, if you're sick you have a chance that it may be the virus, and even if it was the virus if you're young there's a 98% chance you'll be fine. Why go to the hospital to sit in a disease-ridden waiting room for hours, get put on a bed, get treated with antivirals that only treat symptoms, and receive awful treatment and care in a system that was designed to be at capacity during flue season (which is still going on right now). The numbers don't actually mean anything unless we get solid mortality statistics including age and extrapolate infected #s based on that.

>> No.17520979

>>17520962
correct. and retards have the mindset "its just the flu" so now all these retarded hickbillys are going to spread it among themselves when they get together for a pig roast.

>> No.17520989

>>17520962
It may be an extreme competitive advantage longterm for a country to experience an acute outbreak of this virus over the population as well.

If faced with a high risk of not working quarantine that will absolutely hurt economy to stop it. It's not a hard choice.

I think Xi wanted to appear very strong to his people more than make the best choice

Though it's entirely possible the China quarantine measures could work.

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17520990

Haha outta my way s&p shits haha hahahahahha

>> No.17520992

>>17520974
its more than 2% its closer to 7%.

>> No.17520994

>>17520974
i was actually planning on going to the doctor tomorrow, i have a runny nose. but fuck you anon i think i'll go anyways

>> No.17520998

>>17520979
and then they get in a shootout with the feds because they won't even go into quarantine.

>> No.17521017

>>17520994
People like you are why hospitals can not effectively treat legitimately sick people that need treatments during an outbreak.

>> No.17521020

>>17520990
>so how's your portfolio, anon?
>great! im losing a lot, but hey it's less than the S&P!

is this how boomers are gonna cope this year?

>> No.17521022

>>17520994
>i have a runny nose.
Top kek. He goes to the doctor for a runny nose and then contracts Corona at the doctor's office and dies

>> No.17521026

>>17520998
so you cant impose quarantine measures. you have idiots thinking its "just the flu" and spreading it faster than the clap. and you have already an overwhelmed health care system that wont be able to take in the amount of patients they'd need to to contain this. gee i wonder which way the stock market is going to go in the next 1-6 months.

>> No.17521051

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234181133421727745

so "somehow" they went from being diagnosed to being in critical condition in 1 day. now imagine how many more cases are out there like this. imagine being a fucking bull right now, holy fuck lmao.

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17521057

What is your prediction for the next few weeks?
Should i sell my stocks the following days or just keep holding?

Pic related, my face after the last week

>> No.17521068

>>17520956
Yes it is. Talking a bunch of shit about how rich and good at trading you are and refusing to prove it is the equivalent to claiming you're 220 pound at 6% body fat and refusing to post body. In this case, he's making it all up which is why he won't do it. The easiest way to prove he is full of shit is to just tell him to post portfolio, each time he will come up with a new excuse why he won't.
>>17520958
My portfolio isn't in question here. You're claiming you're rich from trading, show us.

>> No.17521083

ITS GOING TO BE FUCKING BIBLICAL.
https://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/resources/infographic/chronic-diseases.htm

6 in 10 adults in the US have a chronic disease, 4 in 10 have 2 or more. are you fucking retards ready for this happening?

>> No.17521094

>>17520844
Of course. There doesn't seem to be a satisfactory solution to the "problem" of billionaires, then.

>> No.17521100

>>17521022
Just get a bottle of Jameson and ride it out

>> No.17521117

>>17519523

I assume everyone is a felon on 4chan desu ever since the inception of /jp/ and the pedo larper there

>> No.17521118

>>17521057
probably bouncing back, at least early in the week. If the drop continues without interruption we're more fucked than I thought.

>> No.17521123

>>17521083
>Been in the US for 6 weeks
>One dead HIV patient
I keked

>> No.17521124

>>17520994
>runny nose
>go to doctor
Oh boy I can't wait to pay for this retard's health insurance. Bonus points if you're a spic. Thank you Bernie!

>> No.17521139

>>17521123
yeah i know you dont know that they havent been testing for it until now and deaths piling up were written off as other death causes, but please dont start drooling in here.

>> No.17521144

>>17521094
the solution is that people need a better educational system. then you'd realize it's not a zero-sum game, and that as the economy grows the pie gets bigger and everyone benefits.

no one on the left wants to admit that the poor in the U.S. live better than literal royalty did in the middle ages, or rich barons of the early 1900's even. guess who didn't have A/C or the ability to order pretty much anything imaginable off of amazon? yeah. you want capitalism because it keeps technology improving, and as a result the lives of everyone become substantially better. this doesn't happen in communism because there's no motivation to innovate and fill needs in the market, because there is no market. there is just "do what we say or we'll kill you/throw you in the gulag".

>> No.17521157
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17521157

>>17521083
>tfw strong immune system, diseases always hit me with less intensity than other people in my family and thats if I even get sick
>tfw zero pre-existing conditions, excellent health
>tfw live in a relatively remote location
>tfw 2 years worth of one-a-day multivitamins, tang, and 2 year supply of slow release vitamin C pills
>tfw portable 0.1 micron water filtration system good to go
>tfw deenz & rice, protein powder, basic medical supplies, hand sanitizer, canned food, peanut butter, extra water, dry food, and even food bucket meme kits
>tfw job where I can work from home (software engineer)
>tfw if /pol/'s conspiracy theories are right I should be fine as I am 100% northern european

>> No.17521166

>>17521157
all i read is
>northern european
you should be more than ok anon. european genes are the most superior in the entire world.

>> No.17521167

>>17520844
>>17521094
>There doesn't seem to be a satisfactory solution to the "problem" of billionaires, then
There's never going to be a solution because the premise is faulty. Rich people existing doesn't mean that there has to be poor people on the other side to account for it. If you took the total wealth of every billionaire on the planet and distributed it evenly, everyone would only receive $675 per person and 90% of people would waste that money on stupid shit they don't need within a month like what they do with their current income.

Billionaires are used a political scapegoats, a tool to try to explain where money for services we cannot afford will come from instead of facing reality. We don't have to like them but it's senseless to pretend that they're stealing the money from everyone else.

>> No.17521175

>>17521051
actually testing for it across the ICU

>> No.17521180

>>17521175
thats what i mean. were going to see these cases pop up exponentially now because theyre testing for it.

>> No.17521183

Where do you guys go to get charts of a company's P/E ratio, mrkcap, and things like that over time? I only see charts for stock price.

>> No.17521185

>>17520989
For China the Quarantine brings short term problems, both socially and economically, but long term profits.

Because they will reduce the damage Corona does to the population, but while their Economy suffers some initially, the impact their Quarantine has on the World Economy will be even worse, with Supply Lines being what they are, you will see countless Businesses around the world dying.

>> No.17521191

>>17521157
How are food buckets? Have you tried any? I just got a lot more canned tuna and stuff like that. Nothing 'survival' just things that will let me skip the grocery store if needed.

>> No.17521193

>>17521183
tradingview has a section for company financials

>> No.17521201

>>17521083
You know cdc means cause of disease center, right? They cause disease. They don’t prevent it. Western medicine is the total definition of late stage capitalism/broken window economics.

>> No.17521204

>>17521185
Demographic pyramid being improved isn't long term damage.

>> No.17521216

>>17521191
If you've ever had mountain house its essentially just a bucket full of those. They taste ok, advantage is the food items will last literally 25 years and if you're lazy about researching food groups you get a good balance (usually with meal plans included).

>> No.17521219

>>17521201
what. it doesnt matter who or what causes it. the data says 6/10 have 1 chronic disease, 4/10 have 2. coronachan puts about 20-30% of people with chronic diseases in the hospitas.

300m * 0.6 = 180M.

180M * 0.25 = 45M will be in severe hospitalized condition.

>> No.17521234

>>17521219
Yes, obesity isn't a good thing when you have trouble breathing. That being said China has their own lung problems due to pollution that are larger than in USA.

We really have to wait on death / critical rate.

>> No.17521235

>>17521193
It's only the current stats though right? I'm trying to find those stats over time.

>> No.17521237

>>17521204
tell the 25 year old Nurse in Iran about the demographic pyramid.

>> No.17521244

>>17521219
>doesn’t matter what the cause is

Lmao, retard. Kys

>> No.17521255

>>17521235
Go into the tradingview chart, it's next to the indicators.

>> No.17521256

>>17520410
Those #'s are according to the CCP. Why would they lie?

>> No.17521264

>>17521255
Thanks, im retarded

>> No.17521275

>>17521234
yes china have their own problems, but the US isnt looking at happened in china and thinks theyre ahead. they arent prepared to deal with it on the same level china did -with quarantine, lockdown, etc. because theyre not prepared its going to hit them even harder than china.
>>17521244
oh look another anon tranny who got BTFOd by a tripfag because he tried to spew some bullshit around here. what else is new.

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>>17521219
>100% of people will be infected

>> No.17521283

>>17521264
No worries, fren, we're all retarded here.

>> No.17521287

>>17521276
german officials announced around 80% of people are expected to catch it.

>> No.17521298

>>17521167
mainly the problem is that normies don't understand that the reason why billionaires exist is because they created value for society and filled a need which people paid them for. as a result, technology improves, and everyone's lives improve in general as a result. they just think they got their money out of thin air or something.

in short, the real problem is that our financial education in the public school systems and colleges is trash. it's literally just people being fucking retards with financial education, like, the majority of people being this way. and it's hard-to-impossible to fix because dems have a vested interest in keeping everyone dumb enough to vote for their nanny state propositions that give them power.

>> No.17521301

>>17521287
cuz yuro govts havent even bothered to do fucking anything about it, and they all ride public transport like the cucks they are

>> No.17521300

>>17521276
thats worst case scenario. virologists said 60-70% world will be infected, so ok.

300 * 0.65 = 195M

195M * 0.6 = 117M

117m * .25 = 29.25M

literally doesnt change anything because the volume is stupid high. but ok keep talking brainlet.

>> No.17521303

>>17520994
Based. I stubbed by toe earlier. I think I'll go to urgent care to have it looked at just in case.

>> No.17521338

NEW

>>17521334
>>17521334
>>17521334
>>17521334
>>17521334

>> No.17521341

>>17521237
I'm speaking impartially.

I do not think it's in the interest of western countries to attempt chinese-like quarantine measures.

There are effective measures like shutting down public events to slow the spread so the healthcare centers are less overloaded, or other such social behavior changes that can be done.

Full economic shut down is not a good idea because there might be no end in sight.

>> No.17521372

>>17521234
>On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2
>the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
The fucking baggie cope in this thread is unreal.

>> No.17521412

>>17521298
It seems to me that all major parties seem to have vested interest in keeping the populace financially retarded. Imagine what would happen if people weren't, the economy would grind to a halt as the population started retiring at age 40, stopped buying things that they didn't need or product that are made disposable. As you alluded to, the downside of this is that society progressively transforms into a nanny state but right now we're playing on easy mode because we have the financial knowledge that they don't.

Let them suffer working 40+ hour weeks working jobs they hate until they are 65. They're modern serfs by their own choice, we're the lords of this clownworld.

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>>17520604
that's a WEEKLY put option, anon. you gotta learn the difference if you're going to start trading options otherwise you will be paying huge spread premiums.

march 20 and april 17 are the monthly expiration dates and they'll be trading at a much higher volume.

>> No.17521828

>>17520398
Biden landslide in SC

>> No.17522037

With all their shit being sold out I thought 3M would be up instead of down. How much of their shit is manufactured in china? Or us there another explanation?

>> No.17522425

>>17520172
Wasn't it confirmed that Bats were off the hook as an origin source? I thought it was gooks eating endangered armadillo

>> No.17522582

>>17522425
It was from that bsl4 lab nearby.