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[Anonymous No.17504469]

>"Gavin Andressen lives in Amherst near me and I met him many times at meetups. Gavin was absolutely firm that Craig was Satoshi so it never really occurred of me to doubt it until I met Nick Szabo.... he was absolutely earnestly trying to persuade me that Craig was... I dont even want to use the ugly words he employed!"
-George Gilder

Why is Nick Szabo going around desperately trying to persuade people that Craig isnt Satoshi?

I'm pretty sure the real Satoshi would have better things to do with their time, no?

[Anonymous No.17504490]

>>17504469
well gavin doesn't believe creg either anymore desu

[Anonymous No.17504507]

>>17504490

(Citation needed)

[Anonymous No.17504546]

>>17504490

In fact, Greg Maxwell and friends were complaining about this just 3 days ago on reddit. He never rescinded his claim; if he had we would know about it.

[Anonymous No.17504563]

OH NO NO NO!!

Nick didn't know bitcoin is turing complete before craig told everybody! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE&t=4063s

16.04 and forward

[Anonymous No.17504630]

>>17504563

To be fair to Nick, nobody knew Bitcoin was TC at the time until Craig announced it at that very panel.

[Anonymous No.17504655]

>>17504630
>until Saotshi announced it at that very panel
fixed that for you

[Anonymous No.17504825]

[Anonymous No.17504878]

>>17504563
>>17504630

bitcoin being turing complete has been discussed on the forums before craig wright was even known. there still is no definitive answer and alot of people argue over it. stop being retards

[Anonymous No.17504916]

>>17504878
DYOR. It is.
https://youtu.be/RPQD7-AOjMI?t=5
https://youtu.be/QJ1DTeexpvA

[Anonymous No.17504981]

>>17504878
>bitcoin being turing complete has been discussed on the forums before craig wright was even known.

Sure, to the extent that they thought it wasnt Turing Complete. Craig was the first person to say it was.

>there still is no definitive answer and alot of people argue over it.

Yes there is (see: https://www.mdpi.com/1999-5903/11/8/170).). The people "arguing" it dont actually have any real intellectual curiosity on the matter, they just want to prove Craig wrong.

[Anonymous No.17505058]

>>17504546
Is it even possible to write a more jewish post than that picture!?

You can literally smell the Greg through the screen.

[Anonymous No.17506108]

>>17505058

He has been going nuts in /r/bsv lately

[Anonymous No.17506270]

>>17505058
>>17506108

Pic related

[Anonymous No.17506446]

Why the fuck would any of you newfags care what Gavin Andreseen says. The guy literally is CIA and Satoshi ran away when he went to meet the deep state. He is 100% untrustworthy. They probably have pics of him fucking a 6 year old and completely control him.

[Anonymous No.17506476]

https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=6652.0

[Anonymous No.17506486]

>>17506446
>confiscated Paul "Solotshi" Le Reoux's hard drive
>haven't cracked access yet
>assumes the identity of Satoshi till they have access
>access gained, "proves" he's Satoshi

End of story.

[Anonymous No.17506515]

>>17504469
>Why is Nick Szabo going around desperately trying to persuade people that Craig isnt Satoshi?
i think nick is just fucking pissed at craig and at people that take the fat fraud seriously.

[Anonymous No.17506530]

>>17506515
Why?

[Anonymous No.17506554]

>>17504469
BTC was the best and only thing Satoshi ever created. Get this through your fucking heads. Everything Satoshi ever did or ever will do is BTC.

It doesn’t fucking matter what Craig says, does, thinks, etc. for the rest of eternity. If he actually is Satoshi, which I earnestly think he is, he has nothing left to teach us or give us. He might as well have died after creating Bitcoin. It literally makes no difference whatsoever if he’s Satoshi anymore. Feel bad for all the suckers who keep falling for his shiny new ponzis. BTC is the only thing that matters, not Satoshi.

[Anonymous No.17506661]

>>17504916
here is a small problem with your little bullshit
if bitcoin was turing complete you could write a smart contract that uses it's balance as a counter and fee and count down to 0 without any outside interference from an external turing machine.

the other issue is any turing machine can emulate any other turing machine so if bitcoin is turing complete you could run javascript apps on bitcoin and even the javascript interpreter itself. but you can't.

[Anonymous No.17506670]

>>17506530
they had a disagreement at a conference craig confronted nick when nick questioned his claims about turing completeness ever since they hate each other i guess.

[Anonymous No.17506723]

>>17506670

Why would Nick care though? Or want to draw attention to himself in the first place?

>>17506661

Did you even watch the video? Serious question.

[Anonymous No.17506762]

>>17506661
They run javascript on bsv

[Anonymous No.17506832]

>>17506661
run java on this turing complete machine
https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/javascript-is-turing-complete-explained-41a34287d263/

[Anonymous No.17507025]

>>17506723
>Why would Nick care though? Or want to draw attention to himself in the first place?
ask him m8
>Did you even watch the video? Serious question.
i have but this is like a show for kindergartners to me.
>>17506762
of course...
>>17506832
a turing machine can run java or anything your pc can run and more.

[Anonymous No.17507047]

>>17506762
to be clear are you talking about this nonsense or an other nonsense?
https://coingeek.com/news/tag/javascript-library/

[Anonymous No.17507487]

>>17506661
>>17507025
>i have but this is like a show for kindergartners to me.

Yeah, I dont think you did. What you described can absolutely be done across many transactions/in a payment channel.

[Anonymous No.17507524]

>>17507487
no it can't without an external turing machine and then it doesn't count for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.17507811]

>>17507524

it's all on-chain, as I've been pointing out to you for a long time now; the only thing that must necessarily be input from outside the chain is data about real events, naturally, which is the role of oracles like WeatherSV

[Anonymous No.17507910]

>>17504655
>oOho yu sV ID
green ID and dubs checked
please be my valentine anon

[Anonymous No.17507991]

>>17506723
>Why would Nick care though
It's not complicated. Nick is a nerd and an idealist. He fundamentally believes that life is supposed to be fair, that good ideas will triumph over bad ideas, and that lies are inherently weaker than the truth, that liars will never prosper long-term. He worked with a number of other people developing bitcoin, and they all idealistically agreed not to publicly claim credit, because doing so would threaten the decentralized nature of the network and possibly their personal security. Bitcoin was never supposed to "belong" to any one person or organization, and everyone involved in developing it was content to set aside an enormous fortune and significant fame in order to protect the network. And they managed to persevere and get the network running successfully, despite the fact that for years no one in the mainstream understood what they had created and wrote it off as a Ponzi scheme, a scam.
So it fucking hurts to see some drunk doofus with a smirk on his face successfully saunter into the space, take a look around, and start fleecing all the plebs not once but twice, making obscene amounts of money and shamelessly taking all the credit that you oh so nobly refused. It runs counter to how you think the world is supposed to work and it suggests the fact that despite its apparent success and mainstream acceptance, for most people your life's work, bitcoin and crypto in general, may never be anything but a get rich quick scheme.

[Anonymous No.17508027]

>faketoshi
SAGE
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[Anonymous No.17508125]

>>17507991

LOL

Nice fanfiction.

The truth is that Szabo got pissed because he knew he would be out a job grifting conferences once people figured out he definitely had nothing to do with bitcoins creation.

[Anonymous No.17508168]

>>17504981
Your pajeet shill pastebin needs an update.

[Anonymous No.17508351]

>>17507811
>it's all on-chain
no you can't write a stateful self driving smart contract on bitcoin blockchain (nor on any shitforks for that matter) bitcoin simply doesn't have that capability by design.