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VIX at 44...
death at the door...

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>>17481109

>> No.17482428
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it feels so good bros

>> No.17482433

>>17482428
>when you sold off your NKE puts too soon

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Thread theme playlist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quxTnEEETbo&list=RDquxTnEEETbo&index=1

>> No.17482438

>>17482405
What would disaster in the bond market look like?

>> No.17482446
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17482446

>Gooks quarantined
>Stuck inside with nothing to do but play Raid: Shadow Legends all day

Why aren't you investing in vidya right now?

>> No.17482447
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HERE WE GO AGAIN LADS!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.17482450

How can we win?

>> No.17482453

>broke support level and still doesn't want to fall
what the fuck boomers

>> No.17482462

historic red friday happening??

eu is crashing and burning rn

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>Wanted to buy DAX puts
>Didnt do it
Hold me, lads

>> No.17482470

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-02-27/coronavirus-when-will-the-stock-market-bottom

>> No.17482473

>>17482453
It's fallen so far so fast that people don't want to be caught in a short squeeze.

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Premarket

>tfw

>> No.17482477

bros, I have some UVXY calls i bought, exipiration is Jan 2021. Bought them so I can short UVXY when shit hits the fan, but did not realize how much it's decays over the time. If we go more and more down, is it still gonna go up? It's lower then VIX at the moment, which I find strange as UVXY is 1.5 leveraged, so i would expect it to make bigger moves relative to VIX. Can anyone try to explain this to the brainlet please? Basically, I'm asking if it's technically possible for UVXY to still go to let's say 50+ if the market is going further down or I should use this opportunity and sell the options (I mentally written this position off as a loss because UVXY was very close to the split but I'm sort of break even now). T-thanks frens

>> No.17482478

>>17482470
>https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-02-27/coronavirus-when-will-the-stock-market-bottom
http://archive.is/GX76V

>> No.17482479

>>17482446
Well. I’m HODLing Nintendies and Snoy. That’s not looking like a good trade though...

>> No.17482482

>>17482450
>Objective: Survive

>> No.17482483

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
MOMMY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.17482484
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>>17482438
A lot of people losing a lot of money kek. In all seriousness I think it would deeply shake confidence in the economy, not just the equities market for years and years. So many boomers (who I don't completely hate) have so much tied up in "safe" bonds it's crazy, would significantly impact people's quality of life through the 2020s.

>> No.17482486

spx 2900 support broken

>> No.17482497

>>17482478
Based

>> No.17482498

>>17482442
>the counter argument i guess is that this virus will only kill off entire families who are susceptible to it, is that right?

Certain individuals may be more genetically susceptible but the main risk groups are the elderly.

80% OF FATALITIES WERE OVER THE AGE OF 60.

The major risk group is, on the whole, economically inactive which will ease the economic burden of the outbreak considerably

>> No.17482501

>>17482477
don't trade volatility instruments or options on volatility instruments until you understand volatility and the construction mechanics of those instruments that attempt to track a volatility index.

>> No.17482513

>watching currencies move like stocks

Just end of the world things

>> No.17482514
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>-550

>> No.17482515

>>17482484
You're right. Boomers might get really railed with this. If they do, I wouldn't expect them to be much more humble. Which is bad in all matters of relationship. Just think about how they're gonna run businesses now.

>> No.17482517

>DAX just broke -5%

fugg

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its been an honor serving with you stock marines

>> No.17482520
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IM GONNA CUM

>> No.17482521

DAX just broke 11,800.

>> No.17482523

>>17482486
my "SPX 3000" party hat is in the trash.
down here
down here where we are

will we fall to 2500? I hope not

>> No.17482526

Where everyone sees chaos. I see a perfect opportunity to BUY LOW and SELL HIGH. You need to have the investor mindset. See the patterns. When prices of stocks go down. You need to buy.

Today I bought;
Disney
Netflix

Theranos
Air France
Delta
Washington Mutual
Carnival Cruises
Nintendo
Exon
Enron
Beyond meat
Texaco
Uber

You average people will never... CAN never understand the INVESTOR mindset. You think like sheep. Sell when you're told, buy when you're told. The true INVESTOR sees through it.

>be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful.
-Warren buffé

>> No.17482527

>>17482498
Also 75% of fatalities had pre-existing serious health concerns such as cardiovascular disease.

If you are not already immunocompromised you should easily be able to fight off the infection

>> No.17482528

>>17482484
Wait wat?
Are you talking about the US defaulting on bonds or something? Because I don’t think it would be such a disaster if yields went negative or went back up significantly.

Though the bond ETFs might be subject to some fuckery I’m not aware of.

>> No.17482529

>>17482501
This. I was looking at VIX but playing off of volatility indexes or anything off of volatility implies greater risk than just inverse ETFs. You are probably better in some options plays.

>> No.17482531

>>17482479
just dump both, bad choices dont make them even worse.

>> No.17482533

>>17482484
Sorry, I should have explained better. I don't know much about finance but my understanding of bonds is that I pay a lump sum and then receive this sum plus interest over the next X years.
Other than inflation being higher than the interest what could make this go wrong?

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>>17482520

>> No.17482535

why the fuck is the world sperging over japanese bonds
like their entire school system is shut down

>> No.17482536

>>17482527
>If you are not already immunocompromised you should easily be able to fight off the infection
>when I am immunocompromised
boy really feeling good about my chances

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having a wank rn

>> No.17482539

Jesus shit I can't shit out out options fast enough
When is this insanity going to end? Honestly making more money from options than I ever did buying and holding when times were good

>> No.17482541

>>17482526
kek

>> No.17482546

>>17482533
if the bond issuer declares bankruptcy (defaults on the bond)
you might lose your principal (very bad)
this is more likely for high yield bonds (Greece, South America, shady companies without earnings) and less likely for "real" bonds (functional governments, companies with earnings)

>> No.17482548

>>17482526
Cult followers

One of the most irrational investors in the market.

When will they learn

>> No.17482549

>Futures
Its over
Todays the big one

>> No.17482551

>>17482476
Can someone tell me how to read this screenshot filename in full? I get the first part is the date, is the second part supposed to be the exact time in seconds when the screenshot was taken?

>> No.17482553

>>17482526
>>17482531
The heck?
What do you think the japs are going to be doing when school is shut down for a month?

If the Nintendo switch is still in stock it will be FLYING off the shelves. If not, I’m sure they’ll just buy the Spider-Man BluRay from Sony Pictures.

>> No.17482554

>the solid ass green candle on bond futures

>> No.17482555
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>futures

I am erect as fuck right now

>> No.17482558
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>ITS OVER
ITS OVER
>ITS OVER
ITS OVER
>ITS OVER
ITS OVER
>ITS OVER
ITS OVER
>ITS OVER
ITS OVER
>ITS OVER
ITS OVER
>ITS OVER
ITS OVER

>> No.17482559

>>17482546
okay sure, if the US government defaults everyone is fucked, but I don't think the anon meant that

>> No.17482560

>>17482473
I seriously hope this happens like yesterday, can't do anything with cash right now besides watching my puts.

>> No.17482562

>>17482539
What's a good play for someone that never played options. Pls and thank you. Just give me price and exp. Ty

>> No.17482570

>>17482537
3 minutes later...
>>17482558

FREE FAAAAAALLIN!!!!

>> No.17482573

>>17482562
buy incredibly out of the money puts in inflated stocks like AMD

>> No.17482575

>>17482528
Not necessarily defaulting, but come on, negative yields on US bonds would be FUCKED UP. It's one thing for some shithole country having bad bond yields, but the US??
>>17482533
Inflation being higher than yields would be very bad. The US is the most important nation on the planet, if there's no faith that the bonds we issue are even a little bit profitable that's a huge problem.

>> No.17482576

>>17482539
What are you shorting, king?

>> No.17482581

>>17482555
That's just freaking impressive. Way to go Anon.

>> No.17482582
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Despite only just getting into the market and losing a bit of money, this has been a fantastic learning experience and im glad i was able to experience everything with my friends of /smg/. Ive never felt more comfier

>> No.17482585

>>17482573
Doing God's work thank you.

>> No.17482586

what dax at -5% mean for the US

>> No.17482596

>>17482559
there are many different issuers of bonds
Companies (especially banks), municipalities, nations...
If companies start to default on bonds in a way that can't be contained the whole debt market (and world economy) could collapse.
That's just doomer porn, but companies defaulting on bonds is a real possibility that would cause people holding those bonds to lose lots of money. Shitty governments (Africa, South America, Southern Europe, Southern Asia....) default on loan payments all the time

>> No.17482597

am I reading correctly that dow futures are -600?
I'm hallucinating right?

>> No.17482605

$iBio

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The chad Corona Chan eradicator and the virgin buy and holder.

>> No.17482609

>>17482597
What does this mean

>> No.17482612

>>17482576
>>17482562
Just buy puts on indices like the FTSE and DAX
Nothing too exciting or esoteric, it's easy because they won't stop falling. Watch for surprise mini-rallies though.

>> No.17482613

THE ROOF
THE ROOF
THE ROOF IS ON FIRE

WE DONT NEED NO WATER LET THE MOTHERFUCKER BURN
BURN MOTHERFUCKER, BURN

>> No.17482614

>>17482477
It lags Vix like options prices lag stock prices I think. I bought spce puts the other day and even though spce fell 15% I was break even for the day. The next day spce fell another 20% and I was up 100%

>> No.17482615

>>17482586
-2% then we see where it goes from there

>>17482597
we're all hallucinating
it's the batdrugs in our lungs

>> No.17482618

DOW 25,000 support broken. Brace for impact

>> No.17482622

>>17482555
Nice mister triplecinq!
Think of how many KO cheapies you can buy!!

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>>17482609
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures
they've broken 25k is what if I'm not smoking something
I can finally bring back my doompaul photos

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>>17482586
well obviously we have to upstage them.
didn't get where we are today losing to krauts.

>> No.17482629

>>17482609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

>> No.17482631

ONTX free falling aswell right after that promising conference. fuck this shit, still holding

>> No.17482636

>>17482606
>it's nothing, I'll just buy the dip and DCA into it to make it in 50 years
it's like they chose to be cucks when the obvious signs are there to just sell and save thousands.

>> No.17482638

>>17482529
I knew exactly how much I'm risking when I entered the trade. The calls are supposed to be just hedge (bought them when VIX was < 12 so they were cheap) so I can short volatility when it explodes. I'm just little bit confused why UVXY doesn't move that much as I thought it would in situation like this. My plan was to open synthetic short when when UVXY is >50 or so, this is why I'm asking if it's even theoretically possible.

>> No.17482642

crude fighting for life at 45
next stop 40
natural gas evaporating

the dollar grows ever stronger
ever stronger
the almighty dollar

>> No.17482644
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>SUPPORT
>RESISTANCE
>FLOOR

>> No.17482648

>>17482615
>>17482627

THANKS

im buying in tomorrow

just a bit maybe 1/8 of my cash

>> No.17482649
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>>17482644
>>SUPPORT
>>RESISTANCE
>>FLOOR

>> No.17482657

>>17482526
>Enron
kek

>> No.17482660
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>>17482428
unironically sold the ABSOLUTE TOP before corona chan. this is it, this is going to be the biggest short of my life

>> No.17482670
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>>17482629
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

>> No.17482671

DAX about to bounce post all the wojack variants you like it's happening.

>> No.17482672

>have to go on business trip during corono time and cheapies sales
>only gonna get my travel money back in about 2 months
NOOOOOOOOOO MY CHEAPIES

>> No.17482675
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Looking at NSRGY liquidation to make my first ever put buy. Hmmm... MSFT might be on the menu.

>> No.17482683

>>17482614
thanks anon, this is answer I was looking for. So in layman terms, if we assume the VIX stays 45 for a week without any movement, UVXY will eventually "catch up" and make the move?

>> No.17482686

Im too scared to sell...already down $600

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>>17482671
I'll post my very favorite wojak just for u

>> No.17482698

BUY THE DIP GUYS YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

>> No.17482702

>>17482686
At least at this point we probably are looking at a rally. People will want to close their shorts before the weekend.

Of course, people have been saying that all week, so take it with a grain of salt.

>> No.17482706

>>17482672
in 2 months itll still be getting hammered. short the fuck out of everything or sideline your money til after summer. buying right now is the same as lighting your money on fire

>> No.17482708
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Welcome to the Recession

>> No.17482711
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17482711

Guys

It’s really not the end of the world. As long as you’ve been homesteading and have a solid local source of groundwater and one of those self-lubricating onahole things you’re fucking set.
Sell your extra butter, eggs, and cheese so you can buy cheapies. Live the dream.

>>17482575
Did you just call the land of seifukus and anine a shithole?

>>17482573
Don’t they have data center and video game exposure? Those are the stay-home sectors...

>>17482644
You insist on killing this meme?

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Bros... whatever you do... don't check your Robinhood account tonight.

>> No.17482722

>>17482702
people closing shorts won't do shit as they will immediately dump any excess

>> No.17482725

>>17482711
>AMRN
fuck bros...
it was supposed to go to 90

>> No.17482733

I put bought 15k worth of 3 month 1600 gold options contracts when gold was at 1580
Hit 1690 now back at 1630 and remaining level despite markets crashing
I thought gold went up in times of crisis/economic uncertainty, am I missing something?

>> No.17482735

Its gonna be like Christmas morning when you were a kid again

>> No.17482743
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>>17482711
Nippon's a little bit of a different case... kind of not really. You have to admit they haven't done so hot in the last... 30 years ;_;
Did you know that Kaiji was based on the author's experience of the lost decade?

>> No.17482752

>>17482733
Yes.

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17482754

wait why are futures bouncing
are we saved from imminent death?
is the Chinese threat vanquished?

>>17482735
it's been like Christmas all week now!
I think they call that... Hanukah

>> No.17482755

How many of you guys are here just for crash and don't actually trade/pay attention on off-days?

>> No.17482760

>>17482733
you fell for the gold meme, a multi millionaire is probably laughing at you now.

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***
ATTENTION
***
THIS IS NOW A STONK-FREE ZONE
ALL TRADING IS TO CEASE
***

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Do 2/28 options expire day of or at end of trading day. Thinking of MSFT puts any input appreciated.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17482766

>>17482754
a dead cat bouncing right into the abyss

>> No.17482768

>>17482733
It's a mistake to assume that gold directly goes up and down in tandem to rises/falls in equities. In times of crisis they often move together in fact.

>> No.17482769

>>17482733
see the previous thread. One of the first few posts

>> No.17482770

>>17482755
I'm losing real money, but it's OK because I can buy stocks cheap now
Also it's a wild mess of fun watching things go straight down at a historical rate

>> No.17482775

>>17482733
bonds go up my dude
thats what we're seeing right now
the most extreme bond levels ever

>> No.17482778

>>17482625
it's been too long without you Ron, I have missed you.

>> No.17482781

>>17482498
>Certain individuals may be more genetically susceptible but the main risk groups are the elderly.
>80% OF FATALITIES WERE OVER THE AGE OF 60.

We don't know that.

Australia and another expert cited by the guardian estimated up to 40% and 60%, respectively, of the total population will get infected.

But china has reported less than 100k infected for the entire country.

How many is that? Less than 1% the population of wuhan, the hardest hit city.

Why would Australia and that other expert talk about 40% and 60% if they could just copy what wuhan did so that less than 1% of their population would get infected?

So the china numbers are bullshit, so what's the point of looking at them and saying it "only" kills the elderly?

Then you have other countries where the death rate AT THE BEGINNING OF THE OUTBREAK is 2.5-3.5%... But it's completely natural for the sickest and the oldest to be the first people to die. 2.5-3.5% at the start is NOT encouraging at the beginning of the outbreak. It suggests 2.5-3.5% is just the start, especially for a virus that supposedly takes 3-5 weeks AFTER symptoms to kill most people and up to 4 weeks to go from infection to showing symptoms.

Up to 4 weeks to show symptoms after infection plus 3-5 weeks to die after showing symptoms implies we have to 7-9 weeks after a country has started an outbreak and done reliable testing before we can learn what the real death rate is. With 2.5-3.5% being the floor: those who are already so sick, weak, or old they're probably going to die first.

>> No.17482787

>>17482743
Fair. But...

Yeah I had no idea about kaiji. I love FKMT though! He has a bunch of series I haven’t even read yet. That’s actually exciting I should go read that stuff instead of watching my money burn!

>> No.17482788

>>17482764
end of day

>> No.17482789

>>17482764
They expire at market close (4:00 pm EST) on the expiry date.

>> No.17482790

>>17482778
Ron will get elected President in 2020 once it comes out that all of this (the stocks, the virus) were orchestrated by the Fed

believe in the eternal Audit
he will save us all

Ron Paul 2020

>> No.17482791

How come you guys have been doing this for years and even went through the crypto +392304909% -3248324% bullshit and you still havent fully achieved emotional detachment?

>> No.17482797

If WHO or Trump comes out on Saturday or Sunday and says there's nothing to be afraid of, will the markets rally on Monday or is the drop actually going to continue?

>> No.17482798

all big markets in Europe are already 4-6% down its gonna be ogre for Ameritards

>> No.17482802

>>17482791
Half the people here are either larping as traders or are just bad at it (I know I am).

>> No.17482804

>>17482788
>>17482789
Ty
Do you think MSFT 150 P 2/28 is a good buy for the day?

>> No.17482807

>>17482797
based retard

>> No.17482810

>>17482791
What's the point of massive gains if I can't smugly watch normies suffer?

>> No.17482814
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>>17482787
This'll be us... one day. Fugg it's been 2 years since someone made this image

>> No.17482816

>>17482797
I think the dump continues (or levels out) until we get a solid string of good news
we need at least two positive headline news items in a row (not statements, real things) to start to bring things back up again.

>>17482798
our markets are leaders, not followers

>> No.17482819

>>17482422
Max load on June Vix 15p for easy money rain. Prove me wrong.

>> No.17482820

>>17482791
Emotion is just energy in motion. No emotion means no energy. Simple as.

>> No.17482821

>>17482797
i dunno if you watched it but trump said that like two days ago and markets did what they did

>> No.17482823

lel
WTI getting fucked hard Brent breaks 50
https://www.forexlive.com/technical-analysis/!/oil-briefly-touches-below-45-as-the-selloff-continues-20200228

>> No.17482826

>>17482797
yes, Orange man saying nothing to worry about will rally the European Markets and SURGE the DOW above 30k

>> No.17482832

reminder that fearmongering shills from /pol/ took in hostage this board
THIS IS THE TIME TO BUY
short positions will be closed BEFORE THE WEEKEND
don't be memed and ignore/ report them for spam

>> No.17482835

>>17482823
i fucked up my spy puts yesterday but i loaded up on USO puts. thank god i did something right. oil is like gold, it's a fucking mystery to me why it goes up or down and often seem counter intuitive.

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>>17482819
amazing how this isn't already priced in

>> No.17482840

>>17482804
If MSFT is gonna hit 150 (it very well might) it'll do it from the gap down at market open. You realize it's the 28th today? You'll be wasting your money buying a put that's likely going to be already ITM and expiring in 8 hours.

>> No.17482841
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Mind you it's heading for the December low which is the most obvious demand area on the planet.

>> No.17482844

>>17482781
Shit you have Iran showing a 20% death rate including the young if you can believe their numbers.

What makes china more believable than Iran?

Italy's initial numbers would imply an eventual death rate of 14% but from what I can tell they stopped sharing the numbers that were in the ICU, which is the most important* number right now, and are only sharing death and infected counts.

* ICU count is the most important number right now because if this virus infects just 1-2% of the population then ICUs would be overwhelmed.

America has at most 150k ICU beds equipped with ventilators for those who need breathing assistance and most of those are already needed for people who were sick before SARS-CoV-2 blew up.

1% of 327m (America's population) is 3.27m. 5% of 3.27m is more than 150k, so a 1% infection rate and 5% ICU rate is already enough to overwhelm our ability to provide care, so that any real infection rate would likely imply that all ICU cases will become death cases.

>> No.17482845

>>17482781
>believing Australia over china

Ngmi

>> No.17482848

Worst part is, i've got a headache. Probably due to getting shitface after I made 20K yesterday, but deep down I know I got the coronavirus and am gonna die now. The world would only let me win on the scale if it was going to kill me right after

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>>17482791
Can't get emotionally detached when you're having fun.
>>17482797
Markets will drop only if another searing headlines like Texas exploding with cases overtakes any announcement the Pres. makes. WHO is irrelevant.
And no, don't expect Texas to announce any cases over the weekend. Don't quote me.

>> No.17482855

>>17482832
>/pol/ took over the world's markets
do you faggots even hear yourselves?

>> No.17482866

>>17482840
Fair enough. I'll probably just stick to my inverse ETFs then. I don't know enough about options yet. Thanks man.

>> No.17482867

>>17482797
Monday is gonna be even worse than today, when people have had two days off to assess.

>> No.17482868

>>17482835
yeah oil is a real fucking pain. It's very technical but varies between kill everybody chop and pure mayhem swings.

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>>17482832
this, please buy the dip guys, daddy trump will just tweet for it to go up.

>> No.17482883

>>17482844
nah 5% of 3.27 mil is only like 16k cases over 150k. yes, there are other reasons for people to be in the ICU, but also this will stretch over a span of time.

we fucked for sure, but there are other concerns than healthcare being overwhelmed. Like, can you ever get rid of this thing? will it mutate on a rolling basis? Can it kill instantly without symptoms like those chinese people falling in the street? that is the scary shit.

>> No.17482889

>>17482555
fuck im jelly, cant go into options here stuck with inverse etfs and like 10% gain

>> No.17482892

>>17482841
what if it falls under the December lows
haha

>> No.17482900

>>17482854
wife is a nurse here

so far around 10 cases per major city

>> No.17482902
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Threadly reminder that this is just a big nothingburger being hyped by the media for clicks

>> No.17482904

>>17482855
/pol/ took over THIS BOARD
because those who are fearmongering are shills, they make us look bad and some newfags could lose serious money because of them
short positions will be closed today
but if you prefer to spam LE HAAAPPENINGGGG because it's fun and cool, ok

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Going to enter bear market Monday

>> No.17482917

>>17482551
2020 02 28 date 04:22:15 time

>> No.17482918

Accumulate REFR

>> No.17482919

>>17482844
>you have Iran showing a 20% death rate
Iran's death percentage is only so high because they are under-detecting the total number of infections. They are only detecting the most serious cases where people are critically ill

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>>17482892
don't say that anon

>> No.17482921

>>17482904
I CANNOT wait until 2 weeks from now when pol tourists get bored and go back home

>> No.17482923
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sqqq to 30 by market close

>> No.17482926

>>17482904
and you think people closing shorts will be enough to make puts bought at market open to be unprofitable?
are you serious?

>> No.17482928
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY SPY PUT ORDER DIDN'T GO THROUGH

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Absolute retard here, I sold my MSFT 180 position yesterday because I feel like that stock is going to hit the ground hard, I'm thinking about grabbing some KO, is now a good time?

>> No.17482931

>>17482902
death rate per infection

22lr vs 308

now imagine everyone getting corona

>> No.17482932

>>17482889
it's true my SBUX put made 1,600% today before close. i think tomorrow i will put real 5 digits behind a deep option and hope for retirement.

someone better pipe up if they become the first corona millionaire.

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>>17482920
(It's going to happen)
oilpocalypse

32/barrel
quote me

>> No.17482938

>>17482933
fuck off by one
we'll get em next time

>> No.17482940
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>$40k in cash
What do I buy, /biz/? Cigarettes?

>> No.17482942

>>17482902
such brainlets

>> No.17482952

So how many people took a loan to buy those soaring stocks? Cant wait for all the butthurt market chain reactions.

>> No.17482955

>britbong on Bloomberg is trying not to lose his shit

this is gonna be big lmao

>> No.17482958

Corono is actually a co-organized by by Xi Ping and Donald Trump to crash the markets and then have them surge at the end of the year.

>> No.17482960

>>17482781
You seem to think that present tense and future tense are the same thing.

You have misinterpreted the article you site and overlook several key considerations. The 40-60% figure is a purely theoretical modelling figure that assumes no action is taken to minimise the risk of infection. It also makes no estimation of the timescale necessary to infect 60% of the population, viruses take time to spread, it could take years for any sizeable portion of the population to become infected.

Mortality rates will always be elevated in the initial weeks as the sick, weak and elderly die first, leaving a greater percentage of non-immunocompromised infected individuals.

>especially for a virus that supposedly takes 3-5 weeks AFTER symptoms to kill most people and up to 4 weeks to go from infection to showing symptoms

Not true at all. The incubation period ranges from 1-14 days but is most commonly around 5 days whilst and the median time from initial symptoms to death was 14 days.

A period of 3-4 weeks is all that is needed to see how the virus will affect populations in the long term, nothing like the 7-9 weeks you quote

>> No.17482962

>>17482926
there are no solid basis for this crash, it's happening only because medias hype
and medias are shilling this because people is addicted to fear and "happenings" to escape their pathetic lives
no one wants a real crisis, soon those in power will tell the medias to stop and they will obey like the bitches they are

>> No.17482967

Dow sub 24K today

>> No.17482971

>>17482931
how many non-shitskins have died?

>> No.17482972

>>17482636
Fuck you, I'm FOMO panic buying like a motherfucker. Just transferred a fifth of my cash reserves to my broker. Monday is buying day. Just imagine all the boomers looking at their retirement funds over the weekend after the crash hits the news today, freaking out and selling off. Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning is going to be juicy, like >>17482867 says!

If it keeps going down, I'll cost-average in with another fifth every few months. If it goes back up - I'm in, baby!

>>17482735
Hell yeah! It's a great opportunity after an insane last year.

>>17482802
This, most of the reactions are performative meming by people who have 50 bucks in Robinhood if even that.

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>>17482928
>lost the steak cuz pinching pennies

You deserve it

>> No.17482977

>>17482971
not enough

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Corona related
GHSI on watch

>> No.17482981

>>17482962
......china completely shut down the areas responsible for 80% of its exports for fucking weeks and probably will again.
do you not know what a supply chain is?

>> No.17482983

DAX bounced 140 pts, really wants to mount a full retard US style rally here but it's not going to be that easy.

>> No.17482984

>>17482977
too true

>> No.17482989

Yeah because a crash like what has happened so far historically says it’s from a virus, media, fear lovers and happenings for people

>> No.17482992

>>17482981
We've tried reasoning with these posters in many threads. Just let them prop the market then sell once they realize how much they screwed up.

>haha just stories bro

>> No.17482994

>>17482958
Why would trump want his economy to plunge in an election year? Duhh derrr *drools*

>> No.17482995

>UVXY jumped another $3 overnight
Is SHTF?? I'm going to be rich

>> No.17482998

>>17482962
please please please tell us how much money you've lost, anon

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>>17482980
Enhancing the immune system? Hello cytokine storms. How are they going to solve the HIV-like, HIV-like, NOT actual HIV, mechanism this shit likes to do?

>> No.17483011

>>17482962
Yeah keep buying the dip again retard. Youll get plenty of opportunities over the next couple of weeks.

>> No.17483012

>>17482921
Yeah... yeah they’ve been here for a while now though. They have a very simplistic view of the markets but it’s kind of cute. And I guess so do I.
>>17482814
Looking forward to it!!
Except I don’t have a personaname and rat will never agree to that because he thinks bowlingball bagholders want him dead.

>> No.17483013

>>17482994
>he thinks people can remember what happened at the start of the election year
Anon, your low 4D chess playing skills are showing.
What matters is what happens in the final months.

>> No.17483014

Why are you still holding?

>> No.17483019

>>17483014
because they're APT puts

>> No.17483022

fucking shit USA market open is terrifying me. just look at fucking DAX

>> No.17483024
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Daily reminder that it doesn't matter how many points the dow goes down by. No banks are in any danger no industries are in any danger. And if they were, the Fed would just print money to save the instantly.

Stop falling for the schizo fear mongering.

>> No.17483025

>>17483013
They will when the dem nominee brings it up in the debates

>> No.17483026

>>17483024
Repo market says otherwise

>> No.17483029

>>17482981
the infection rates are already reducing in china
>>17482998
nothing? I'm buying anything related to oil and transportation

>> No.17483036

>>17483026
Repo market is proof of how the Fed can just print money and fix the problem. The repo crisis turned out to be one big nothingburger because the Fed QE'd it.

>> No.17483043
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NOBODY is going to volunteer to hold the bag for the next 3 days.

Fucking NOBODY

>> No.17483049

>>17483025
Oh yeah ohnonononno whatever is Trump going to do if a dem is going to bring up stock topics?
Whatever is he going to do if Bernie Sanders brings up stock performance?
OHNONONONO

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After 1:00 pm Euro-time I fully expect the DAX to cliff down to 11,600. Just spitballing.

>> No.17483051

>>17483043
Just give me a nice drop at the end of the day and let me unload my puts

>> No.17483064

DAX broke resistance, small bounce could be happening.

>> No.17483068

>>17482902
>>17483024

Hey

Have you ever considered that the market is a discounting mechanism that prices itself according to information available at the time?

And that the traditional flu is a seasonal phenomenon that investors and businesses have already priced in?

And that a new and differentiated flu would cause a great deal of uncertainty that would be very difficult to price in because almost nothing is known for certain about it?

#alwaysbullishfuckthecoofers

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17483069

>He's shilling buying the dip again guys

>> No.17483075

>>17483049
What did they say about the 2018 selloff?

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>>17483029
You can only believe Chinese numbers if you have a direct line to the Party.
>>17483043
Find a Canadian, he'll hold all the bags and say "sorry."

>> No.17483091

>>17483069
Buy high sell low

>> No.17483093

>>17483075
I believe it was,
“Here ya cheapies, onipai!”

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>>17483012
It is cute :3
I was reading the red scare podcast subreddit today, there were girls on there asking how to download robinhood so they could buy "something called a put" kekkies. Little bit of a bulle indicator :o
That being said maybe it will inspire people to genuinely learn a lot about finance, that's good considering how little our education prepares us for it.

>> No.17483109

>DAX recovering
I think this was the bottom lads

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Another day of AAAAAAAAAAAposting and bitching
It's way less annoying than the green wojaks though. I fucking hate that faggot shit

>> No.17483118

>>17483109
bull trap

..same as yesterday

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if we are to get a gnarly bounce in a weeks time, what would be the best way to profit from it?

>> No.17483121

>>17483109
what recovery are you talking about?

>> No.17483124

resistance for dax here, two equal swings one central retracement.

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>>17482422
I know its fucking plebbit but this had me cracking out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/faoz0o/the_spy_has_been_breached/

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>>17483036

>> No.17483132

So I sold everything a few days ago, when do you think I should start building a new portfolio. April?

>> No.17483133
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this

this right here

is the market on nonce yeah

>> No.17483134

>>17483120
Use it to buy cheap puts

>> No.17483142

>>17482994
>trump bullying the fed
>fed stands aside while markets crash

What part of independent fed don’t you understand? Why is it no other president dares to bully the fed? And why was jfk shot?

Protip: they’re all related

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>>17483134
We found the bottom, and it's made out of rubber. EVERY market will be at least +3% EOD

>> No.17483148

>>17483132
it depends by who is going to win us elections

>> No.17483154

>>17483142
>fed stands aside
What should they do against a viral pandemic?

>> No.17483155

>>17483142
yaehhh i believe it
but this is fucking trump we're talking about
i fully expect the dow to hit 18k and he'll still be re-elected
and the fed can literally go fuck itself because they can't stop BTC with CORONA

>> No.17483168

>>17483132
when are they releasing vaccines? i think it's in april

>> No.17483170

>>17483002
>Hello cytokine storms
take vitamine D3

>> No.17483179

>>17483142
TRICK QUESTION:
JFK wasn’t shot.
Hot lead can’t break human skulls

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4 hours until bulls get what they deserve.

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>>17483002
this one is old but still...

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>>17483184
posting plane crash bobo

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>>17483184
Four hours until I claim the world record for largest ejaculation ever recorded from a human being.

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>>17483184

>> No.17483213

>>17483106
Honestly it’d be more bullish if they were posting “guys I can’t handle this I’m just going to sell my stocks until things settle down” or something.

That may actually be the sane thing to do here. If we nail down a weekly close this Low that’s going to be pretty ugly.

>> No.17483216

Buy SQQQ?

>> No.17483220

>>17483184
NONONO PLS NO SHTF

>> No.17483221
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This is it. The greatest buying opportunity of the decade. I've been waiting almost a YEAR to find a home for my cash. This is it laaaads

>> No.17483252

>>17483002
>thinks improving the immune systems of immunocompromised individuals (i.e. the most at risk group from coronavirus) is a bad thing

Also viral latency is not restricted to HIV, there are many other viruses that exhibit this and our understanding of managing such diseases is very effective

>> No.17483253

>>17483221
the dip's not over anon. it's obvious as fuck. today's going to be a terrible fucking selloff. wait a little bit more atleast

>> No.17483265

>>17483221
You know you’d still be in the green if you bought any time before October?

Hell, NVIDIA is still 1.3X it’s october level.

>> No.17483269

>>17483184
>>17483197
>>17483203
Check VIX. It's ogre. Bulls on suicide watch.

>> No.17483273

>broker goes to maintenance again
here we go

>> No.17483279

>>17483168
good luck making a vaccine for a disease that mutates multiple times while infecting a single family.
>http://archive.is/GPVv4

>> No.17483290

if vix hits 60 well be fine right anon

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>>17483185
ooga booga what is viral latency

>> No.17483294

>>17483273
tsx?

>> No.17483297

>>17483279
>Chinese scientists say

>> No.17483305

>>17483216
Trail stop it with a pre-execution market strike.

>> No.17483310

>VIX leaving orbit soon
JUST

>>17483294
no, some german brokers are going into maintenance for some reason. tonight will be a feast for some of us.

>> No.17483316

>tfw didn't enter the stock market soon enough so i'm missing out on these obvious put gains

seriously buy fucking puts. i don't have a broker, you do. it's painfully obvious, nobody's going to hold risk the whole weekend. do it for me anons.

>> No.17483322

>>17483216
see
>>17482555

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Just had a closed door meeting with my regional CDC.

I think shorting might be a good idea boys.

>> No.17483341

>>17483310
market wont crash if no one can dump, anon :^)

>> No.17483345

>>17483316
yeah puts on the vix.

>> No.17483346

>>17483322
I don't know what that post means :(

>> No.17483347

>>17483279
That'll be its weakness not its strength. The weaker more mild strains will infect the most people and boost their immune systems.

>> No.17483349

>>17483310
source? which one?

>> No.17483354

uhhhh guys
What the fuck happened to amazon?

Where does the market think people are going to buy their high quality Frito-Lay snacks if everyone is staying shut up in their homes?

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17483364

do brokers normally give you options data outside of market hours? IB gives me fuck all unless its like 30 minutes into a trading day, but it seems to always show me (albeit a very disjointed) vix options data

>> No.17483372

>>17483338
Wait. Which poster is this?
The medicalanon who was calling it a nothingburger?
If yes I’m going full bubbleboy.

>> No.17483373

>>17483354
Did amazon yet finish inventing completely autonomous delivery or who is going to deliver all those packages?

>> No.17483377

People were asking where I went like they don't understand the concept of sleep. SNSS is still fine, it is still on the verge of a major catalyst, and I am still completely unconcerned. I don't have much to add to the general market discussion since I've never seen anything like this before.

>> No.17483382
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>>17483269
eh, we'll see.

>> No.17483384

>>17483305
What percent should I trail stop it?

>> No.17483389

>>17483346
>1. SQQQ - Change +221.43% (Gains: $3,100)
>2. SQQQ - Change +165.12% (Gains: $8,875)
>3. SQQQ - Change +166.67% (Gains: $5,000)

But if you can't read a basic financial graph then maybe inverse EFTs are a little too advanced for you

>> No.17483402

>>17483372
I'm not the one earlier. The disease is not a huge risk (to most here), but containment has pretty much failed as far as I can tell, there might be business shutdowns and hospitals being overwhelemed by serious cases.

I don't want to say more but I am much less optimistic than I was this morning.

>> No.17483426

>>17483389
All I do is market buy and market sell, I know SQQQ is doing really well right now but I don't know if I already missed out on it. I want to understand this stuff better though.

>> No.17483435
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17483435

Post your pozzes for the day lads.

>> No.17483444

>>17483349
flatex, onvista, traderepublic were down according to some of my friends, dunno about now.

>> No.17483446

>>17483426
If economy goes down SQQQ goes up. Do you think the current dip will continue? If so SQQQ will continue to rise.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/122215/sqqq-proshares-ultrapro-short-qqq-etf.asp

Read this and also research inverse EFTs and decay in more depth

>> No.17483449

>big lots, inc

more like big JUST, inc

>> No.17483457

FUCK i really ought to make a broker

>> No.17483463

>>17483402
what like swine flu?
my ma worked icu during it and it sounded bad, but that was in the icu. i remember on the street it was pretty much fine and i hardly noticed. but then again i was a normie back then. tho normie vision can be a good perspective to stay grounded and calm.
don't think it's a nothingburger, just don't think it's a big deal for anyone other than the usual suspects: old, young, prior history.
will there be severe young adult cases? sure
young adult deaths? why not
greater than 10% of deaths being in the 20-45 range? not a fucking chance in hell.

>> No.17483477

unironically searching how to cook marihuana for tomorrow

>> No.17483491

>>17483384
Depends on volatility. For example. My trail stop on my SQQQ was to be no greater than 6%. Taking into account execution lag or variance, I set it down to about 3.89%, giving me some cushion, but not too close to it setting off in case there is a bounce back. No greater than 6% was and is the goal. So it looks like this
6%(target trigger)-(2.11)pre-execution margin=3.89%
x/24.93=3.89/100.
So 24.93*3.89=97.0944
Then 97.0944/100=about 97cents. So my trail stop is at 97c or about 3.89% of 24.93$ to account for bounce back, strike price latency, and so on.

>> No.17483504

As soon as they found out it can spread when a person shows no symptoms they should have just thrown in the towel and just let people live their lives as normal.

No amount of economic self-harm is gonna stop the spread in the long run. The new coronavirus is here to stay and you're probably going to get it.

>> No.17483505

>>17483316
Do it today or Monday? First time trader, was planning to buy some on Monday

>> No.17483513

>>17483505
lol yikes

>> No.17483516

>>17483505
is this a joke

>> No.17483519

>>17483463
It's a little worse than swine flu, I'm more worried about the global feel-good response shutting shit down.

>> No.17483521
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>>17483513
Fuck off fag
>>17483516
No

>> No.17483537

BUY MORE APT PUTS ON MARKET OPEN

THE SHIP'S GOING DOWN

>> No.17483539

>>17483505
think about it. with all this corona bullshit do you think investors are going to hold stock for 2 days?

lots of fucking shit can happen in these two days. huge uncertainty, and money is very fearful. everybody's gonna sell. the risk involved is huge. do it today. market close will be a fucking bloodbath.

>> No.17483543

The exact moment I buy a put or call credit spread, the market is gonna rocket upward. But until I do, it'll keep going down. I'm not sure how to feel about this ._.

>> No.17483545
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who dares me to pull the trigger?

>> No.17483552

>>17483543
Maybe you're not hanging onto your spreads long enough. Or maybe your parameters suck too.

>> No.17483554

>>17483373
Guys with hairnets and gloves and masks?

Aren’t they still doing deliveries and shit in China? People aren’t going to survive off canned beans for a year because they don’t want wuflu.

I really should’ve shorted Japan more...

>> No.17483558

>>17483539
and i wish this wasn't true, but holy shit. i dont want you to lose money anon, i've never ever invested a dime. but to me it seems very obvious. yesterday was just the beginning. not a lot of good news yet.

>> No.17483563

>DAX almost back to 12k
BUY BUY BUY

>> No.17483564

>>17483539
What should I do some puts on? I was thinking of holding back till next week for some stocks that are shooting up now, but I guess I should fuck around with what’s crashing today. Using Robinhood.

>> No.17483573

DAX pump ongoing, you better buy the dip now and then prepare for later.

>> No.17483575

>>17483545
do it faggot.

>> No.17483577

>>17483521
Please do it

>> No.17483579

>>17483545
On what though.

Investors are up. Markets are moving again. Expect some bull screwballery and a likely minimum of -.04 to -.06% again today.

>> No.17483580

>>17483402
Sounds like it’s going to be rough to even treat sick and elderly patients.

Please. Anything else you could say would be appreciated. I trust a random online poster far more than Chinese scientists or whatever.

>> No.17483582

>>17483558
>i've never ever invested a dime
get the fuck off my board normie scum

>> No.17483588

>>17483564
again i don't want you to fuck me over. take this with a grain of salt. get puts on basically everything. i can't tell you which companies, but it's fairly obvious that there's going to be a general downfall. buy SPY puts, for example. that's basically what everyone's doing anyways

>> No.17483596

>>17483545
...on what?

>> No.17483601

>>17483588
sorry, meant i don't want to fuck you over. just free advice from a friendly faggot

>> No.17483602

>>17483563
It will shit itself at close.
Don't fall for the games.

>> No.17483605

>>17483580
All they said to us was basically to encourage remote work and expect quarantines to slow down the disease.

This will be a big business disruption and needs to be priced in, although I expect the markets to recover by the end of the summer.

Coronavirus is just going to become another endemic disease most likely, just a very bad flu that kills the old until everyone is immune.

>> No.17483615

>>17482962
>>17483185
>>17483463
>>17483605

It's not about the virus nor its economic effects. The virus is the gaslighting that banks and the usual suspects will use to distract you from the biggest bubble popping that was long overdue. Even if the virus killed 10 people, they would still use this as an excuse so no one will want the heads of bankers, the fed, etc.

It's all so tiresome.

>> No.17483627

>vix falling

>> No.17483634

the virus is the cover store of america decoupling the world from china's cheap labor
we just can't say that we're directly causing it cause that's bad for politicians getting re-elected

>> No.17483635

>>17483615
Bubbles don't pop without a catalyst. Perhaps you just overestimate your competition.

>> No.17483642

>>17483605
honestly the ones like you saying stuff like this help me quite a lot. i'm hypocondriac as fuck because of corona. thanks anon.

>> No.17483643

>>17483627
It's pre market and the market is up. What do you expect. Negative carry EOD is highly probable. Bottoming out now makes little sense.

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>>17483580
Legitimate picture of man in China who took a single breath this morning. Don't listen to the shills

Source: South China Morning Post

>> No.17483647

>>17483642
Unless you are a:

Boomer

Smoker

Homeless

Extremely unlucky

You will survive this.

>> No.17483650

SPX hasn't recovered either. still down afterhours

>> No.17483651
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>>17483588
>>17483588
It’s $100 anon, tell me which contract I should buy

>> No.17483657

>>17483634
If you would like a better understanding of global fundamentals, take a look at how america recently became the largest exporter of crude; how the panama canal was expanded and the iran deal took place and the effects that had on price per barrel and all the bases we have around our special little interest and then the lifting of the ban of exporting crude from america.

things take so long to happen.

>> No.17483661

>>17483635
the catalyst was used 100% willingly and deliberately. It was the media hype on coronachan's effects. The media is controlled by the very same people that put immense shorts on the SP months ago and sold at the top at around the same time.

>>17483643
the same as yesterday, the day before and the day before that. It'll all shit the bed during the afternoon.

>> No.17483663

>>17483133
Sell Greggs to the highest American bidder I say

>> No.17483682

>>17483373
Immune Philippinos

>> No.17483693

>>17483661
oh it's you

>> No.17483699
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>>17482422
is there a bottom or is this shit gonna keep falling to 0.00? I wanna buy the dip but every day this shit falls more and more.

>> No.17483701
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SHOOOOORRRTTTT

>> No.17483702

>>17483573
OH SHIT ONLY DOWN 3.5% IT'S A FUCKIN BULLRUN

>> No.17483704

>>17483605
What a fucked up way to solve the social security problem...

That’s a very bleak picture. I guess you’re not optimistic about EVER getting a vaccine.

There’s also no reason to assume this will only be a seasonal event, is there? Last I heard it’s quite warm in Singapore and transmission hasn’t slowed down.

>> No.17483707

>>17483701
that was already in the WSJ yesterday

>> No.17483716

>>17483651
i genuinely wish you the best. again please act intelligently. i will tell you what i'd take. please anon be safe, i know it's 100$ but i don't wish you lose them.

you can go short term high risk. there's a high chance that today's going to be a selloff. but beware that the dip may have ended. you can never know. if you're feeling blackpilled and want to gamble take short term.

if you're a bit more optimistic take medium term. but seriously if you want to gamble it take short term and enjoy the ride today's going to be.

>> No.17483717

>>17483701
Yawn
Old news
Doesn’t change the fundamental thesis that this is not containable

Why did you even post this?

>> No.17483727

>>17483704
I don't know, I didn't get a chance to ask.

Vaccine is months away, I don't think anyone knows how fast this thing mutates so it isn't worth pinning all hopes to.

>> No.17483733

>>17483707
Oh my bad. Just hit CBS 11hr ago
Sorry.

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>>17483727
>doesn't want the market to go down

>> No.17483742

DAX resistance at 12k?

>> No.17483743
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I'm so jealous of any of you fags that actually bought TVIX.
I've just been buying the dip all week...

Might buy a fuckload of SPXL right before market close if we get another 3% down
Anybody else thinking we might hit circuit breakers today?

>> No.17483745
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CASH AND PUTS

>> No.17483746

>>17483446
>>17483491
Thank you this is very helpful!

>> No.17483747
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17483747

>>17483377
>SNSS is still fine
lol no, it's coronapozzed like everything else

>> No.17483758

>>17483743
scoops are you still making amazon money, if so don't be jelly of anyone, you're income is enough to buy the dip just eat ramen

>> No.17483764

>>17483704
Singaporean here. The number of people discharged > number of new cases everyday. Still 0 deaths but we have 8 in emergency care. The fatality rate looks low but its around a 10% emergency rate so the key is that hospitals need to be plentifully equipped to handle the situation or end up like china.

>> No.17483765

>>17483605
shh. stop being sensible. it's the end of the world don't you know

>> No.17483778

>>17482422
its not even worth watching the market anymore. its just freefalling and unless you have spare cash waiting to snap up shit on sale you are just going to hate yourself

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17483784

One thing is worrying me right now though. I just returned from asia.

And I am developing a cough.

>> No.17483792

>>17483765
We hit ATHs week after week while this shit was spreading worldwide. The market is not sensible.

right now we are literally just going to the prices we should have been 3 weeks ago. Half this correction is just air escaping a worthless bubble, we haven't touched the real shit yet.

Look at PEs

>> No.17483796

>>17483784
nigga u dead

>> No.17483801

>>17483784
dis nigga gon die

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I just bought 2 grams of gold for like 132 bux, with certicard and all. Did I overpay?

>> No.17483806

>>17482526
can you afford to hold those purchases for the next 2 years? because we are going down eevery day until at least next year

>> No.17483808

>>17483784
Unless you're a boomer on life support you'll be fine.

Stay home for a couple of weeks. Order take out, wait for it to pass (if it's anything at all)

>> No.17483810

>>17483784
same. i have a sore throat. but i have only been to the gym when i went outside. there are no cases in my province, but still i have the god damn paranoia. godspeed anon.

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>>17482755
Biz is only entertaining at times like these

>> No.17483827

>>17483813
/smg/ gets boring after market close. but only on normal days. now it's an absolute shitfest

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>>17483792
-36% EOY LETS GOOO

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>>17483784

>> No.17483843

new bread?

>> No.17483844

Dow futures are up from -1.2% to -0.7%. Can they make it?

>> No.17483846
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>>17483747
SNSS is higher than it was last thursday. If you see a return to crab from last week as "coronapozzed" when everything in the market is screaming downward at insane rates, you are a fucking retard.

>> No.17483851

>>17483844
Whatever PPT methods they are using this week it's not working. It's also too global.

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>>17483846

>> No.17483862

CNBC pushing for fed rate cuts and interventions

THAT WONT DO SHIT FOR THIS EXCEPT INFLATE ASSETS AND TAKE MONEY FROM WAGIES

>> No.17483866

>>17483743
Jesus Christ in heaven
I want one of that

>> No.17483867

New
>>17483865
>>17483865
>>17483865

>> No.17483872
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>>17483758
>scoops are you still making amazon money

>> No.17483880

>>17483764
Tanks bruh
>>17483727
Any idea if this FUD about lesions and damage to the renal and leydig and seminiferous ducts is real?

>> No.17483893

>>17482733
Recession, which is now more likely, is deflationary and that depresses gold price. Same thing happened in 08 where gold first fell and then went on a huge rally as the governments and central banks flooded the market with liquidity. ECB said yesterday that it wasn't the time yet to lower the rates, but I'm sure it won't be long. The economy has become increasingly reliable on cheap money, and governments (like trump) are now openly pressuring CBs to do more. I'm bullish on gold, especially with the upcoming election and risk of Sanders winning.

>> No.17483899

>>17483872
Fug that is a luxurious view

>too ashamed to show his fingernails
Are they bitten to shit?

>> No.17483932

>>17483899
>>too ashamed to show his fingernails
>Are they bitten to shit?
lol nah, it was just a coincidence that they aren't in the picture

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