/biz/ - Business & Finance

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HEIL HITLER

>>17406128
Anybody invested in a company that researches or produces graphene stuff?

>>17406137

Fuck Bears

Buy the dips
let's all make it

>MOMMY MAKE IT STOP

>These markets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypHZ_iKBcoo

>mfw

>>17406172
Its beautiful

>>17406149
that's a really CUTE bear

>>17406152
It’s true!
Happening cancelled. We can all go to bed knowing that the stock market is not going to dip very much tomorrow, if at all!
See pic related for assurance of well-being.
It’s okay! See the jump! We should be back to neutral shortly!

>>17406172
>>17406182

AG

>he didn't buy their panic sell

$12k of TQQQ on Friday.
Just fuck my shit up

>>17406182
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

>>17406191
BUY MY FALLING KNIFE YOU RETARD I DON'T GIVE A SHIT

>>17406149
Bears are much cuter than bulls!
changing sides

Are...are the stock markets fucked?

Post some bearish etfs or stocks to get during the virus panic tomorrow.

>>17406233
no, there's always a green line somewhere.
you just gotta find it.

>>17406239
SQQQ
APT
LAKE

>>17406239
SALT
TMDX

You're welcome

Reminder: if shits really fucked and KO plummets, buy shares and calls if you want to make it.

>>17406255
I see you too are a cultured fellow with TMDX.

>>17406262
>>17406255
based TMDX bros

Any specific japanese, SK, or Italian companies you guys going to short?

>>17406250
>buying sqqq AFTER qqq drops 2%
I wouldn’t advise it, chief
>>17406255
>>17406262
>>17406271
I like how little any of us know about this company. Bullish as fuck.

>>17406149
this

>>17406177
Based and dubspilled

>>17406172
I am going to be down thousands tomorrow FML.

>>17406305
Uhhhhhh, I'm going to need sauce on this chief.

>>17406149
I looked in to it a little. There's not much there yet. Penny stocks. Samsung is working on a graphene battery.

>>17406172
Haha yay time for another red day! WEEEEE AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

PEPSI WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?! THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR THAT!!

>>17406279
I got on it because of TMDX anon but started to look a little more into it and I think its an interesting and worthwhile product. Especially compared to its competitors which is a beer cooler and a fancier beer cooler.

>>17406279
Hey, I read their wikipedia page, I'm basically an expert.
Boomers survive off of eating the organs of the young, incredibly bullish.

>>17406316
Same here lad. Hang in there. I'm going to have to use another couple of thousand to take the other side of my bullish positions. I'm loading up on puts like a fat guy loads up on carbs at a buffet.

>>17406339
It might be a good time if they got a cheap price on it. Depends how much the chinese munchie business is worth.

>>17406152
This. Markets survived the Spanish flu and we will be fine here too.

>>17406321
>>17406305
Never mind. I just realized that this was Wynona Ryder.

>>17406233
If Korea collapses, Japan collapses, and if corona spreads through Europe and they shut more rail lines it will take the entire EU down. If this shit snowballs it really will collapse the world economy. I can only hope it will peak soon.

>>17406339
Damn the chinks are getting a sweet deal.

>>17406316
what are you holding such that it's not going to recover?

>>17406279
Also got into Draft kings (DEAC) because millennials and genz are going to be degenerate gamblers like their forefathers.
Plus Vertiv (VRT) supposed to be an interesting play on data storage and data centers. Got Crammers approval but don't trust that man.

Do I buy more QQC and VGRO tomorrow or towards the end of the week?

>>17406339
Based Pepsi buying the dip lmao

>>17406239
AG
LAKE

>his broker doesn't have direct-access to every market
lol

Selling high prob condors and spreads on earnings this week. It's pittance but a living

spy puts

>>17406363
>If this shit snowballs it really will collapse the world economy. I can only hope it will peak soon.
Right after a massive world war and a pandemic the 1920s were the best economic times for Americans. Clearly pandemics dont destroy countries like supposed.

>>17406339
>Putting a PEP in my step!

>>17406356
I don’t trust chinese companies. I hope PEPdaddy knows what he’s doing.

>>17406381
What dip? Aren’t chink stocks still banned from sale?

>>17406375
Don’t know anything about those. I feel better when Cramer signs off on a company that they’re legit, but that doesn’t mean it won’t get hit hard or report a shit quarter or...

I mean shit I actually bought VIAC largely on his recommendation. Other analysts too and I just thought it’s P/E was sooooo loooowwww.
Big mistake.

>>17406385
What’re the fees like?

>>17406445
Free just like Robinhood for US stocks, can opt into a premium account with much better price execution for typically ~$1 per trade depending on volume and if you're using the fixed or tiered fee structure. Outside the US, depends on the exchange

>Modi wants to "close the gap" between Chinese and India's military
>needs to monitor straight to protect oil shipping
Damn... he's supposed to buy some of those LMT choppers, but this makes me think he needs some better detection too.
Too late to get on the LDOS train? (or am i thinking of KTOS?)

>>17406172
Nevermind, happening canceled, confirmed green tomorrow.

:dafsd:

*dfas*

How many of you were here during the rape storm of the final quarter of 2018?

>>17406487
Use TradingView sweetie

>>17406495
Yo.

I was pretty much just VTSAX and buying the AAPL dipperoo

>>17406423
>put a lime in my coronavirus

>>17406445
They just recently went back to being a public company from going private. Cramer was excited because the executive chairman was David Cote the former CEO of honeywell.

Mother fucker

Just when I decided what to fucking buy it fucking dumps on a weekend

I got like 5 or 6 otm calls on gild and 2 far otm puts on spy so I'll make like $200 on this

Fuck dude

>deaths from corona virus
>affects mainly elderly
>750,000 deaths/mth average
>2000 deaths since December

Damage to the economy is worse than actual deaths.

>>17406500
lower huggers and lower lows.

puts it is.

>>17406325
I'm considering PKX, they own 20% in U.S. graphene maker XG Sciences. And they are quite low price right now. Only problem is it's South Korea, which might get hit by corona. Probably recovers but they could continue to drop for several years as far as we know.

BURN IT DOWN

BURN IT ALL DOWN MR.CORONAVIRUS

>>17406568
rumor has it that the death toll is much higher than reported.

thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSOqW_IqZ8

>>17406586

queer

fuck china, btw

>>17406471
Of course I meant outside the US since that’s what you were talking about.
Who is it? I don’t mind schwab but I’m too lazy to sign up for futures/foreign exchanges and to research the best fees.

>>17406596
It looks... delicious

>>17406605
.............stop............stop................bad boy

>>17406582
We will see when it starts spreading in the free world hopefully they can't censor the truth here.

Sunny in New York with unseasonably warm temperatures, gonna be a green day.

>Hmmmmm....

>>17406613
*coof coof*

>MFW I MORTGAGED MY AND MY WIFE'S HOUSE AND INVESTED MY SON'S ENTIRE COLLEGE FUND TO BUY $200K WORTH OF SPCE CALLS ON THURSDAY MORNING

>>17406586
That was cool thanks

>>17406586
no integrity
https://youtu.be/ncwjXRD-oEA

>>17406642
Yeah that was expected.

So how many Chinese die of the flu every year? 100k? Corona panic is literally FUD perpetrated by market makers to buy cheap in a bull market.

Goodnight frens
May we wake up to chaos

Shanghai composite up billy since reopening from the New Years break.
-0.34% on the day

Absurd. Luckily YINN trades off of the Hong Kong stock exchange... and fuck it’s 9% Tencent which is probably doing great since it’s and Internet biz

God damn it I should really be more Long-short shouldn’t I?

>>17406582
That would be the rumor regardless.
Because it’s China it’s much more likely though.
>>17406665
Is this what WSB is like?

>>17406642
>>17406677
Yeah... but what if Nintendies has to delay their Animal Crossing release and Sony isn’t able to make production in time to get to market with Xbones?

>>17406255
TMDX chads rise up

>>17406614
>news isn’t censored in western countries

>>17406596

>>17406703
>he skips over the key words that act as qualifiers and jumps to conclusions based on what he wants the sentence to say
<3

>>17406341
This is exactly it. The only alternatives are simply cold storage in a shitty and expensive chilled solution. The OCS really is the next big thing within the industry, it’s insane that it took so long to develop basically a super special mini-ECMO but it did.

>South korea futures now down 3%

>>17406703
It is but they can't get all of us. There is no greater "firewall" like in China.

>>17406713
That bat has a face like a dog, and now I understand why the Chinese would eat them...

Common sense isn't common it seems.

>>17406361
kek. Markets during Spanish Flu was some dude running across the trading floor with a piece of paper.

>>17406713
>the chink wants to eat this
the fuck is their problem?

are we about to get motherfucking just'd?

Been doing good on zillow calls I got some for 2/28 65 strike.

>>17406693
Oh wait!
Tencent down 2%!
My YINN puts might stop losing me money!!

>>17406693
Because it’s China it’s much more likely though.

It is the same crap that the soviets pulled during Chernobyl. The CCP is teetering on a powder keg, if the economy fails they are going to go down. Thats why they have to do anything to save their "economy" and party.

What stock is going to explode tomorrow and why is it AMD?

>>17406726
South Koreas entire stock market capitalization value is barely more than Apples. LMAO

Jesus christ I'm a fucking retard

I thought sign stealing had to do with signs on the field or stadium or some shit. Thought "who cares" . What can i say, I don't follow sports...

>>17406808
do you mean implode?

>>17406814
This is Korea's time to shine!
Kpop explosion! Academy Award!
Chinks trying to hold them down!

>>17406785
Do I need to watch Chernobyl to know what you're talking about? I'm sure the commies covered up how bad the disaster was, they were authoritarians just like the chinese.

Hell, even the japs said a lot of stuff that turned out to be flat wrong after Fuk

>>17406843
Basically they harassed and vanished whistleblowers who were trying to tell the truth about Chernobyl to the world.
Its not till Swedanistan noticed the off the charts radiation coming from the Soviet union that they could no longer lie and even after admitting they screwed up they still tried to down play the amount of radiation.

>>17406785
Yeah, there are quite a few similarities between the situation the USSR was in before Chernobyl and the situation the CCP is in now.
Really makes you think
>>17406843
Chernobyl happened after a period of liberalization in the soviet union. After all the reforms the coverup of the disaster was a major rallying point for anti soviet protestors. It played a significant role in the eventual dissolution of the soviet union

>>17406843
on the topic of governments covering up stuff, let's not forget that iran shot down a civilian plane a month ago and thought they could just bulldoze the plane remains and hide it below cement without anyone finding out what had actually happened.

even the us have it's fair share of coverups and lies, wasn't there some big "wikileaks" thing a few years ago that everybody seems to have forgotten?

It's time?

Just how red will tomorrow be bros? I’m ready for cheapies

>>17406875
Its funny if you look at this from a historical perspective and the Chinese notion of the mandate of Heaven (their social contract). Literally the entire history of CCP rule feels like they are being karmically screwed over by the mandate because they are trying to avoid the rise of a new dynasty though it has to happen.

>>17406892
Redder than the CCP, the current DNC, and Bernie.

>>17406755
Have you seen cows?

Green Day tommrow

>>17406902
Christ, the protest leaflets write themselves.
Xi must be shitting his pants
>>17406919
I'm gonna be honest, I don't find cows even remotely cute.

>>17406866
Yup. A worker at the swedish nuclear power plant was taking a shit, it was impressively big so he used his radiation scanner to see if his poop somehow had mutated and was shocked to see that the radiation was off the charts. It was later revealed that the radiation didn't come from his poo though.
Actually a true story

>>17406939
>Christ, the protest leaflets write themselves.
>Xi must be shitting his pants

Literally the basic version of the cycle can be a cut and paste of China under the CCP.

Are we strapped in for tomorrow boys?

so do i just buy anything tomorrow? i hold 0 positions currently

>>17406939
Yeah people just find animals they kill not that cute.
It's called desensitization.

Can’t decide if I want to continue buying the dips or just start gambling with puts.

>>17406977
History of China is interesting in that they are literally in constant civil war, even right now, for thousands of years. CCP is doomed within 100 years (maybe even as low as 30). I'm curious as to what will happen. Taiwan might try to re-establish on the main land, Chinese autonomous region might form alliances and fight among each other again.

>>17406362
First girl I ever remember having a crush on. Can’t believe my parents let me watch beetlejuice

>>17406977
The chink dialectic is in motion
>>17407003
Buy a couple shares on the way down, don't go all in at once.
>>17407006
Yeah, guess so. Is what it is I guess.

>>17407003
Thats just gambling. The markets could react in any way. Hell, I expect it to go down even more, and even I am not betting too much on this.
No shame in sitting it out until we know whats up.

But you do you.

Hmm all this red makes me want to...buy. Particularly Japan :o
>>17406928
yay

Tachyon internet layer performs the function of host addressing/ identification and packet routing.

>>17406339
>>17406339
>>17406339
>Pepsi Corona

Im not into BTC, but it was green all night. Now its suddenly deep in the red. What happened? Another dump? Seems strange looking at the circumstances

it's gonna be pic related tomorrow btw boys

>>17406642
told you faggots this last 2 weeks ago. i literally said "give it two weeks are are just getting started, corona has 14 day incubation and china supply lines are going to get fucked, short apple and any chp makers or tech built in china"

did you faggots listen? did anyone?

>>17407077
did you?
what's your money on?

here’s what some of the pros are saying, no mention of Jappy stocks.
No mention of BiliBili!!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/24/coronavirus-bnp-paribas-names-asian-stocks-to-invest-in-amid-outbreak.html

>>17407042
Me too! But we’re still above the feb lows and it’s looking kinda H/S like?
I might dump my Sony and Nintendies to get back in cheaper, but that could be a retard move. Feel like they’re going to have to make some painful announcements anytime now though...

>>17407057
SPREAD EAGLE CROSS THE BLOCK

>>17406750
And that dude didnt die and didnt panic. So you shouldn't either. >
>17407021
I can almost see it breaking into smaller countries. Tibet is clearly not han Chinese and possibly other nations come out of it. But will take some time to get it to dissolve. Possibly after xi dies.

>>17406995
bad plays, cancel those yangs and chads

>>17407066
Probably just downtime because it's after hours, demand goes down since everyone is sleeping so the price goes down with it.

>>17407092
>Sony and Nintendies
Hold.

t. insider

>>17407113
Thanks. Im not into BTC so I have no idea.
I just remember one guy telling others to get BTC, not gold calls. And now I wanted to link to that with a smug anime girl pic attached.

I will wait some more then

>>17407109
Could you mind walking me through why?

>>17407092
Bili surely classed under Chinese Internet, they shouldn't be that hard hit? It's not like they're running anime factories, everyone's inside playing waifu games!
Nikkei futies really lookin alarmingly low. I don't hold a single thing from Japan at the moment, don't know what to think about nintendosony.

>>17407021
The CCP will probably fall maybe in our lifetime, maybe not. But they will fall. Taiwan on the other hand I don't think so the island has three main factions going at each other and are lacking the true martial spirit of the KMT.

such a pleasant Sunday evening! I think I'll just take a peek at what is happening in the futures market....

*update*:
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>>17407140
BTC is difficult because it's a fucking mess going up and down randomly. I just bet a little bit on it purely to satiate my gambling addiction. If you're interested in it, just buy no more than $20 worth when people start spamming pink wojaks then sell it all the instant it goes green again.
Also, here's another smug anime girl if you're still interested

>>17407146
dont listen to me im not a professional just a 32 year old. i just dont think you are going to see much movement if any. you might even see negative movement. every time i tried to bet on inverse china ETFs for corona i lost. you think its the obvious play, because it is. but you have to keep in mind china cheats. they wont let their markets drop in any significant amount, by law. they will make selling illegal, short sells illegal, restrict sales volumes, require approval from communist party officials for sales, inject their banks with fake money. there is nothing you can do to win against a rigged system

>>17406995
I'm confident on everything except oil. This evening's oil trading is... not too bad, considering. -2.3% while s&p is -1.4% is okay. Hourly higher low held, no extended selling frenzy. Everybody seems to be satisfied with the dip at the moment and are waiting for the day volume to come in.

The main question for oil is the March 6th OPEC meeting. Every country in OPEC wants to cut production except for Russia. Russia is waffling as it always does, I think they'd like to keep the production rate unchanged but could be persuaded to temporarily cut here. If OPEC can get Russia to commit for at least a little while it should allow oil to settle in somewhere around $55. All this is assuming crab market going forward on the index and not full blown freak out.

>>17406172
Buy some corona virus biotech hopefulls or gold it's only going to get worse.

>>17407146
its worth a try so good luck but my losses there last week and the week before left a bad taste in my mouth. especially when the fuckers closed their market after the 8% drop

>>17406241
INO get in on them corona vaccines

>>17407205
>Also, here's another smug anime girl if you're still interested
I have like 300 but thanks

I see crypto as gambling with extra steps so I will stay away desu senpai baka

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>17407202
>>17407190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypHZ_iKBcoo

>>17407114
Kekkies are you being realistic, or is this like the insider who told us LULU would miss earnings?
Care to elaborate?

I think they’ll be green come December, but we look like we’re going dowwwwwwwn first.

>hold
Don’t sell, and don’t buy the dip?

>>17407177
That’s what I would think too, they got dinged like 4% last week, they’re still up massively and report earnings this week.

Nikkei... I mean they’re going to spend a fuckload of money trying to get this Olympics going just from the hot summer alone. Way more than they had initially projected. It could be bad. Hopefully corona will have burned itself out by then.

Is crypto questions allowed on this thread? I am a /biz/ normie. I'm thinking of dropping £50 to £100 on Chainlink or maybe mostly Chainlink then some other cheaper crypto. Is CoinMetro a good place to buy and later on sell?

>>17407114
Uncle?

>>17407241
>he doesn't have just two pictures with one of them titled with an absurdly large number to make people think he has a folder full of smug anime girls
anta baka

>>17406417
After is the key word. The Spanish flu came in 3 waves over 2 years, Infected 30% of the globe and killed 20% of those 30%. Leading to an ultimate tally of 2-3 % of the globe or 50 to 100 million people. Possibly more than all casualties of both ww1 and ww2 combined. Part of the reason for growth after pandemics is the extra stuff left over from the dead people. You better hope this isn't even close the the spanish flu but as of right now all the Traits of the virus point to equal or worse.if you think a global pandemic killing potentially 225 million people or more is going to be good for business you are crazy. However if you survive you will get to loot the spoils of the dead figurativly speaking.

>>17407305
Devilish

>>17407250
that video is top notch
I'm not sure what I can ever do to repay you

>>17407294
Drop it on coronacoin the superior crypto currency. Joking aside you are better off with stock than crypto.

>>17407309
>extra stuff
>loot the spoils
Nice. You might as well skip the rest of the post.
Go corona
>>17407327
Convince Negi to change the ending. Miku was supposed to win

>>17407294
This is /smg/
Literally any other thread on /biz/ could help you more than us

>>17407206
This is what worries me as well, Chinese chicanery.

Given that YANG tracks Chinese stocks as they appear on the Hong Kong exchange, wouldn’t that make them less susceptible to such flagrant price manipulation as you might see on the Shanghai and Shenzhen exchanges? I’ve been looking at YINN, YANG, and CHAD just because I’ve got a really strong feeling in my gut that this won’t be a nothing burger, I just wonder how strong Chinese QE is.

>>17407309

So you mean financial gets wipped and only real sector economy proffits?

>>17407309
>You better hope this isn't even close the the spanish flu but as of right now all the Traits of the virus point to equal or worse
Zero evidence of a cytokine storm so it's nowhere near equal or worse by any measure to Spanish flu. Stop pretending you know micorbiology and know how pandemics work.

>>17407309
but stock prices and corporate earnings will go down, right?
we can't let that happen !!

>>17407336
it's over. there are no winners.
Everyone lost, because no one has five (5) cute ample-chested quintuplet sisters all trying to be their wife. The fantasy that we all had together is a reflection of our barren and empty reality.

>>17407368

>zero evidence.

Except for the videos and the side effect of the sars vaccines

>>17407352
South Korea was doing the same. They tried to or are trying to make short selling illegal with an 81,000 fine for intentional shorting of Korean equities. Is there any ETF that is actually bearish on countries hit by corona Egypt, Japan, Italy, Thailand, Singapore, etc. Or do you have to be individually shorting ADR's from those countries?

>>17407205
Not randomly if you can "read" the chart. Not easy though.

>>17407015
Pls halp

>>17407377
Price manipulation on the way up and price manipulation on the way down.

EEM?

>>17407238
yeah im going to buy some INO

>>17407352
Do not buy YANG, its all manipulated by the Chinks. Trust me, I did, and went out as soon as their markets opened back up.

>>17407268
>Hopefully corona will have burned itself out by then
I think there's a good chance, and an even bigger chance that it's headlines stop getting clicks, it gets out of the news cycle and people simply stop caring
>>17407336
wtf this manga is lewd?

>>17407396
I'll probably ditch my leveraged shit and grab some tech goodies on the way down, and some etf's like SCHX or SPYX or QQQ

That is assuming we're in for a bearish week. And who knows what GDP number we'll be getting as well

>>17407368
>CCP numbers show 11 percent fatality rate.

>RO shows 4-6

So half as deadly but 2 to 3x as infective this is readily available info dude so quit being such a faggot and look it up yourself no on here is pretending to be a PhD and your clearly not one.

>>17407376
What videos? People dying? You could film a hospital in nyc it would be the same. Right now there is zero evidence it's as potent as the Spanish flu so dont spend all your money on hazmat suits.

ARE YOU BOYS READY FOR THE PART WHERE THE SPACESHIP LANDS TO REFUEL AND THEN GETS READY FOR THE REAL MOON MISSION

GET YOUR POWDER READY FOR SPCE AT THE TWENTIES

>>17407391
I'm too autistic for that. My whole plan with BTC is basically "buy a tiny amount when it dips hard then hold on to it when it comes back up". It's not at all profitable but it keeps my mind distracted which is good enough for me

>>17407440
ill probably buy back in at 28

>>17407440
what the fuck I swore I posted my meme chart

>>17407438

I am more worried about what I am going to eat

>>17407403
I thought might as well unless we start seeing corona slow down but the opposite is happening and from the information that has been released on the infectivity and mortality rate it looks grim. The facts say global pandemic so unless those facts are incorrect or we get a breakthrough vaccine or treatment nothing will change.

>>17407424
>So half as deadly but 2 to 3x as infective this is
How many of those fatalities are old and weak people? That die to the flu every year? Take out that number and tell me what the fatality rate is at that point. It's a lot lower than you want it to be.

>When you just sold everything and put it all into silver and silver mining stocks, and are prepared for a comfy ride to the bottom

>>17407415
Nah. Not at all.
Kaguya is more mature and lewd desu

When should I buy the dip? It really seems this corona flu thing seems like it will keep going for at least a little bit longer and I want to get some bargin bin prices on my favs.

>>17407463
I do not have everything in gold and silver, just a small amount for some good daily gains.
The market is irrational at the moment and I can see another rallye, just for it to collapse again after three days.

>>17407440
Earning on Tuesday, probably gonna fall further than 20. Probably teens.

>>17407417
>I'll probably ditch my leveraged shit and grab some tech goodies on the way down
Even if you’re taking a loss?

>>17407482
>When should I buy the dip?
Honestly? When we have some kind of upwards trend established. We all know the dream of buying the dip of the dip and then shooting back up but like 95% seem to catch falling knives. And 5% get lucky.

Learned that the hard way.

tomorrows theme
https://youtu.be/VwyDJLslDA0

>>17407438
You're clearly wrong

>fatality rate 11 percent
>R0 4.7-6.6

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.20021154v1

>>17407509
I bought the dip friday and it keeps on dipping

>>17407015
Buy more triple leveraged ETFs as it goes down

>>17407490
We've been ready for a recession for a while. Just been waiting for something to spark it. AKA Corona Chan.

Beware the dip, and don't FOMO the bounce.

>>17407407
Did you get ass raped back on 1/31-2/3? I’m thinking of holding these positions until March 2 or 3, I’m pretty bullish on coronachan?

Between YINN (buying puts) YANG, and CHAD, what exactly makes YANG more susceptible? What is the functional difference between the three?

Well anons I hope I make my 19k back in TSLA puts. They have lost a fair amount of value these past weeks

>>17407368
Nobody has called it a cytokine storm for like a decade you larping nigger

>>17407522
From your linked source

>There are currently 79,558 confirmed cases worldwide, including 2,619 fatalities.
That's 3%. Now how many of those deaths are sick and elderly? Fatality rate drops significantly more are that point.

Within China:

>77,345 infected
>22,401 recovered
So most people are fine. If this were "muh pandemic" that fatality to infected rate would be much higher than 3% even taking into account delayed time from infection to death.

>>17407070
Fuck off boomer

>>17407608
Why on gods green earth are you taking the word of the Chinese People’s republic of China at face value?

>>17407535
Yeah thats exactly what I meant. I did not know what would happen so I just got some Nikkei puts, Gold calls and later today some USD/YEN calls. Japan is going down (again) and will try to print money to stabilize. At the same time people will run for dollars to get out of unstable stuff. Pretty sure here.

>>17407550
>Beware the dip, and don't FOMO the bounce.
Pretty much this.
>>17407564
>Did you get ass raped back on 1/31-2/3?
No. Sold everything at the first sign of a drop, switched to bear mode and made some good money.
I have no qualms selling 10 positions in a minute if I feel no longer sure about that position. Too late for thursday though. Got hit by the dip but what you gonna do.

>YINN
>YANG
Same. Based on FTSE China 50 (Ithink) with official Chinese numbers.
>CHAD
Imo, more spread out. FTSE 50 covers the 50 biggest caps, while CHAD covers also smaller caps. Still based on Chinese numbers.

Do not get involved. You can not win by betting against the Chinese gouvernment and it official numbers. They will lie and manipulate until Beijing is a smoking ruin and everyone is dead.

Bet on Taiwan, Korea and Japan. They are so connected to China that they will get hit too.

If the US bans selling, bet on Canada going down. If Germany does it, bet on Austria, NL and Poland dumping.

>>17407620
I dont necessarily but that's what was linked to me as official source as to why I'm suppose to panic.

>>17407608
> That's 3%.

You're a fucking retard.

You can't determine fatality rate with the number of total cases, only closed cases, be it healed or fatal. And that would put it at 10.4% right now. But the Chinese numbers are completely cooked up, so they should be way higher.

>>17407608
"pandemic" just means that many countries will have widespread infection
so we are at the threshold of pandemic status right now

>>17407657
Dont really care. Go ahead and stockpile your gold and silver like it would help. When the stock market bounces back and we soar to aths and in 2 months you crawl back here asking how to make money you will realize how dumb you are now.

It's a flu and its shown no signs of being more dangerous than a particularly contagious flu.

>>17407629
Ahhh being based off of official Chinese numbers is very unfortunate indeed, what a silly idea. Then again taking the word of American companies literally is equally silly in practice.

What are your thoughts on long EEM puts? I should also ask what your relative thoughts on corona are, because I’m expecting it to get ALOT worse before it gets better and Chinese QE can really only slow thing down for so long.
I’ll liquidate my short term positions soon but hold long (October), just as a gamble.

>>17407692
Wow. Just, wow. Literally nobody shits down their borders and risks their entire country’s economy for a “flu.” Actions speak louder than words, my friend. Only way market bounces back is if they fast track testing on a vaccine, AND the vaccine is effective enough. You clearly have fallen for the CCP narrative that slowly gets destroyed every day...

>>17407676
BASED and correct definition pilled
it's just an epidemic over a wide area pretty much

>>17407629
Yeah... the BOJ may get in your way. I'm not going to FOMO in now, but you got in at a good time.

>>17407502
I didn't say I was good at this and playing it right...

Fuck I'm gonna make some big mistakes. Probably gonna get juked on AMAT, maybe I'll just HODL.

I have a fever and the only prescription is more CALLBELL

>>17406995
Why db puts?

>>17407657
The numbers are probably under reported, but I think the number of infected is magnitudes larger and is mistaken as a flu. You think China has the tech to actually test everyone? There probably nearly 200k infected and most have mild symptoms and get over it quick. The surprising thing is just its ease of spreading. Look at i this way, if you were a Chinese citizen, would you tell anyone that youre infected? No you wont. So cases are completely under-reported, bu so are recoveries.

>>17407711
>Then again taking the word of American companies literally is equally silly in practice.
Yeah. But the US has something resembling a free market.
FED, banks, etc. are of course doing some manipulation but its better than China.
>EEM
I would just short Japan. They are the ones who get hit the worst. EEM includes stuff like Peru or Greece though and they will suffer less.
I may be wrong but thats my logic here.
>I should also ask what your relative thoughts on corona are, because I’m expecting it to get ALOT worse before it gets better and Chinese QE can really only slow thing down for so long.
Same.
I dont know how much worse, but it will be pretty bad.
Especially for Asia.
>I’ll liquidate my short term positions soon but hold long (October), just as a gamble.
Hm?
>>17407720
Whats your opinion on the GBP?
Im interested

>>17407755
Stop being reasonable with them. The bears are so desperate for a win. We were suppose to crash in 2018 but nothing happened there either. Ebola was gonna kill us all, as was sars and swine flu and bird flu and whatever.

>>17407333
If Bernie gets wlected, anon crypto will moon. A 0.5% tax on EACH TRADE REGARDLESS OF LOSS is fucking retarded and just encourages people to stay away from the stock market, thereby making his “Robinhood plan” being in NOTHING.

Politicians don’t seem to get this. If you tax something to try and raise a bunch of money, but make it too expensive (and add the additional risk of BEING TAXED ON FUCKING LOSSES), then your little “benefit program” starts to bring in significantly less money than you were planning.

Also, if the market CRASHES, then you lose almost the entire budget tied to those programs. Rely too much on a wealth tax? Or capital gains tax? One year the wealthy make $100 billion in cap gains, then the next year maybe only $50 billion in a recession. OOPS WE RAN OUT OF MONEY gotta tax some other bullshit

Fucking morons. Bernie bros need to GTFO. Just, get on up like Mad Mike Hughes.

>>17407767
Did you lose some money this night, fren?

>>17407767
Really hoping u cover this week. Hoping this is a quick dip, but the effects may be felt throughout first half of 2020, perhaps longer...

>>17407809
Nah not this night since I dont do futures but yeah on Thursday and Friday. Although its calls out to April so it's more of a paper loss for now but could become real in the next weeks.

>>17406172

Meh.

The past week I’ve gained a few hundred bucks. Three weeks ago I sold most of my equity ETFS and swapped for additional bond and PM ETF’s and have been watching them climb as the market falls.

Tomorrow will be interesting. Looks like the market may finally be taking corona seriously.

Some of you lads need to not browse /pol/ for a week. Some of your virus fearmongering is completely irrational, you’re being radicalized, take a break.

>>17407800
He won't win. The people in charge of the stock market are the only ones who matter in an election, and I'm sure they'll have something to say about sanders being president. The next president will be either Bloomberg or Trump, probably Trump since Bloomberg turned the entire democratic party against himself

>>17407762
I agree, we’re orders of magnitude better off.

I’ve a feeling places like Mexico and other shit holes might be getting wave-checked by Corona. What’s the Japanese short ticker?

YANG 3/20 calls, I just want to see how this week pans out. I plan on placing purchases for 10/16 calls that’ll be opening up on Monday and seeing if I can cheese some money purely off of volatility. Also, if we got to the point of potentially tens of millions of Chinese dying, how much good could QE possibly do?

>>17407867
>The people in charge of the stock market are the only ones who matter in an election, and I'm sure they'll have
This. They vote Democrat all the time but they arent srupid enough to go off the brink with Sanders. Theyll about face and vote for trump if they need to.

>>17407868
>What’s the Japanese short ticker?
EWV I think
2x inverse. I dont think we have a 3x

>YANG 3/20 calls, I just want to see how this week pans out. I plan on placing purchases for 10/16 calls that’ll be opening up on Monday and seeing if I can cheese some money purely off of volatility. Also, if we got to the point of potentially tens of millions of Chinese dying, how much good could QE possibly do?
Good luck. Your funeral

>>17407762
No opinion. I don't know enough to play around with currencies, and the back and forth with EU and UK looks impossible to gain. I follow The Economist and even they usually have more important things to report on.

Germany has a bunch of uncertainty in their politics right now, and europe looks like it's ready for a stupid flu panic so... maybe I'd look at that.

When all is said and done this IS a flu. Even if it causes more pneumonia and is more infectious than usual. It's at a delicate time in the global economic recovery, but I wouldn't bet against the global economy as a result.

>>17407858
But what else would be causing this sell-off?
Is Powell unwinding the balance sheet even faster?

>>17407867
>He won't win.
This
>The people in charge of the stock market
Not so sure about this.
Americans don't want a 89 year old Jewish new york socialist in the white house. They'd rather have the obnoxious 84 year old "businessman" reality TV star. Even if they're embarrassed to admit it in the polls. Besides, he's got all the economic winds in his favor.

I seriously doubt Bernie will survive the primaries. He's ahead of the pack now, but something will happen.

>Bloomberg turned the entire democratic party against himself
Did that happen? post debate soundbites sounded like Warren just desperately grabbed some campaign donations with easy shots and Bloomberg was caught off guard.

>>17407936
Germany's economy looks ready to fall though. Its been stalling for months and the gouvernment seems to invent some .1% growth so it is not called a recession.
Might even happen this year.

>>17407899
Hopefully your dubs and wish of good luck will ensure my gains, but to be honest I really do hope that this is a nothing burger.

>>17407939
I just think whoever is in charge of the market would prefer a wiseass literal jew running the country over some self-proclaimed businessman who camoed on WWE a couple times.
The problem is Bloomberg is pissing a lot of people off. He doesn't represent the democratic party at all. He just announced himself as a democrat to exploit their hatred of Trump. Also, he hires professional shitposters to shit up the internet. They even took over /pol/ for a while.

>>17407944
I meant I'd look into that being a better short opportunity. But even that... I'm just not a bear. People survive, they go back to work, they're basically immune for the rest of the flu season and it probably disappears when the weather warms up.

>>17407979
Youre literally retarded.The market LOVES Trump. We are in the biggest boom in decades. Youre just stupid and brainwashed.

>>17407545
Why does this sound like bad advice

>>17407867
Honestly at this point I don’t care, just no Sanders or Warren. They are batshit crazy and seem to have never actually sat and traded anything in their fucking lives. They literally seem like they haven’t actually seen the basics of supply and demand in action, which is 1000x more valuable than reading various theories.

On the flipside, if Bernie keeps doing well, I think my SLV calls will do very well, soooo hmmm....

>>17407979
No, because of the robin hood tax

>>17407991
We will see.

>>17407608
yo dumbo, those are faked numbers and even if they were real are you taking into account that these are the numbers from a country on total military lockdown where the biohazard police are going around welding the doors shut and shooting people out after curfew? and kidnapping suspected sick in vans to take them to concentration camps? do you think that would happen anywhere in the civilized world?

>>17408020
I'm crossing my fingers for either Trump or Bloomberg. I'm worried about what Sanders or Warren could do and the others just seem so bland to even worry about.

>>17408023
I wasn't aware of this. I hope they don't start taxing my tendies

>jus buy the dip!
>stonks only go up!
>why make money now when you could baghold for a year or more!!1
Remember, it's not too late to lump-on SQQQ/TECS/SOXS and Gold & Silver.

Silver provides a tantalizing opportunity given the sky high Ag:Au ratio and the coming recession, we're seeing one of those once or twice a decade times that silver gets to play pretend-PM. Dump it when gold peaks, but we'll likely see greater % gains from Ag than Au between now and the bottom.

>>17407026
>First girl I ever remember having a crush on.
Mine was Natalie Portman
Even at 38 she still looks ok I guess. Have not seen her in a movie for years

anyone have any opinions on QYLD? its a covered call etf yielding roughly 10 percent. I'm receiving a 90k settlement in a couple months and i want to put it in QYLD on 2:1 leverage and reinvest the dividends plus my wages into the position and retire in 4 to 5 years off the dividends.

>>17408067
she looks terrible in every red carpet pic i see of her. but she was really hot in that recent alien movie she did

>>17406128
all of the markets are down by nearly 3%... Is this the end?

>>17408108
yes the end of the bull run and the beginning of the golden bull run + a bubble and THEN we pop

>>17408108
Yes. If you have calls on things that are not metal or VIX you better get those suicide pills ready.

>>17406279
We're in for a ~50% fall, maybe more. Remember how inflated tech is right now, these prices can't be justified without smooth steady growth in the near future, which we know isn't happening.

>>17407979
>I just think whoever is in charge of the market would prefer a wiseass literal jew running the country over some self-proclaimed businessman who camoed on WWE a couple times.
Wait you mean Bloomberg, not Bernie right?

Bloomberg has a chance at the nomination. I didn't see the debate, just some bits and pieces, but I think he has a chance.

But not at the presidency.

>He just announced himself as a democrat to exploit their hatred of Trump
uhhhh this isn't particularly unusual in our retard 2-party Us vs. Them system.

Trump was a Democrat. Warren was a republican. One jackoff used to work for msnbc now shitposts his mouth off on Fox News.

Because everything is simplified into two poles, people can't have any nuance and may have to flip completely rather then adjust their positioning a little bit one way or the other.

>>17408004
He's referring to the people he thinks pull the strings.
If you believe in a unified "THEM" rather than a vast and interconnected web of human and nonhuman variables, he thinks that them would like Bloomberg more that Trump.

>>17408060
>Trump or Bloomberg
seems likely from my perspective, we'll have to see if his staff can hit back at warren's lame attacks.
>what Sanders or Warren could do
very limited when they have a congress that isn't going to go along with any extremist policies
They could put a lot of fear into the markets and shake out weak hands, but eventually it'd be business as usual as nothing they want goes their way.

>>17408065
>Silver
fuck off Bobo I'm not buying the top in silver AGAIN

>>17408083
>QYLD on 2:1 leverage
wtf why leverage? I don't think that's how you want to use leverage. I hold some in my IRA so I don't get taxxed on the divvies. That's it.

>>17408133
Literally every bank in the world is going to print money like mad, and all the institutions will use that money to snatch up equities of the greatest companies in the world... especially US tech stocks.

>>17408006
It's really good advice though. Averaging down on individual stocks is one of the worst things you can do but the same with ETFs? Index ETFs? Leveraged index ETFs? These things are some of the surest investments in the known universe and you are getting them on sale. And you think buying is a "bad idea". This right here is why nobody here makes money.

>>17408083
2:1 leverage cause I want to accelerate growth. it also has some downside protection and it's low volatility, there's back testing data to 1994. these dividends are taxed 60/40 anyways, so the tax situation could be worse.

>>17408083
QYLD doesn't return anywhere near 10% a year. Why not TMF if you're looking for safe high yield returns?

Gentle reminder, found during my pol browsing

>>17408269
Tmf isn’t high yield bro lmao

Got some warrants in Frankfurt for my USD/JPY play, as its easier for me than trading Forex.
High risk, so very little money, but high return if it works out.

Now looking for some silver longs and more Nikkei Puts I guess

>>17408152
Shit, I just realized by "89 year old new york socialist" you meant Bernie, I was talking about Bloomberg
But fair enough

>>17406191
I did this

anyone notice CNN is shilling the stock market drop right now nonstop while Trump motorcade is getting cheered by thousands of indians as it makes its way through India on his trip right now? you can practically hear the CNN commentator salivating. its like they are trying to fear monger a collapse on purpose

All in on APT calls tomorrow?

>>17408457
Who cares, is this a political post or something?
you can't do anything about it.

>>17408306
It is compared to QYLD which was the benchmark I was using such as it is. If you want high yield ETFs get some SSO or TQQQ. What a stupid ass premise in the first place

REMINDER THAT WEAK HANDS DO NOT MAKE IT

>>17408506
lol

Does this stock game have bosses or anything when ur score gets high enough?

>>17408648
Boss is the tax man.

They are one of the biggest supplier of face masks and filters. This is a steal rn, right?

>>17408508
shut up faggot

>>17408680
>implying that's the only thing they produce
sorry, but you'd lose money if you are hoping for a play like that

>>17408457
lol fucking no I didn't notice because CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News are all trash that contribute nothing to my life so i cut them out.

Modi got a bunch of poors to cheer on a foreign dignitary. What's your point? Modi needs to buy those damned helicopters and stop screwing around.

>>17408685
>an actual seething tranny in the wild

Every time bears get a taste of gains this place goes fucking schizo.

>13th posts by me
yeah this is what happens before exams... later smg

>>17408680
Face masks probably make up 0.5% of 3M's profits
APT and LAKE produce masks and suits.

>>17408680
they're a great company
they make such a wide variety of fantastic products
my house is full of their tapes

it's going down again...
I thought that the SPX 3300 party was supposed to never end

>>17408733
>CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News are all trash that contribute nothing to my life
keeping tabs on normie news is important for investing

Think i’m gonna short every single stock i own until this corona shit does down, so much fud atm

>>17408825
Yes all fud andmarket tryingto get you!!!!

>>17408825
Dies*

>>17408816
>-3.5%
holy shit I've been waiting for this, buy buy buy
I bought right before the fucking dip, but I've got plenty on the sidelines

Goddamn i knew it was fucking dumb when i did it. Luckily kept it to small nibbles.

Kinda wish I did futures just to buy S&P below 3300

>>17408822
eh... to some degree maybe
How has it really effected your investing?

CNBC is probably enough for me, with a smattering of podcasts from The Economist, Barron's, Seeking Alpha (meh), JPM, Morgan Stanly, UBS, and sometimes NPR

>stock market opens
I. Am. Inevitable.

Dow Jones? More like Joe downs!

When has the last time you or a loved one thought to them self's "damn I need to go to Macy's for "shit" " I think none
Short the fuck out of Macy's please for your portfolios sake

DAX already down 3%

Really want to buy some spy shorts

>Gold at 1680
I mean Im making bank here but...
This is not good. This means terror reigns

CRUSHING THIS MARKET.
WITH NO SURVIVORS.

>>17408860
i want to hug the bear

People who like to day trade I reckon you could make 10%+ on Greatland Gold today. They've JUST announced 2 new drilling rigs in operation and the market hasn't completly reacted yet. BUY.

I don't like to day trade I'm in Greatland Gold for the long haul.

OOF

Thanks, Corona

NOOOOO PAPA WARREN SAVE MEEEEE YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO CRASH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17408945
>>17408961
>>17408918
Jesus fuck...

I take it back, I will NOT be selling my UPRO and SVXY

If that shit's going to gap down, I'd rather be a buyer than a seller.

I fucking KNEW I shouldn't have gone back to sleep when I saw that GEX. I should've gotten out at whatever prices I could after hours!

>Bought gold calls and Nikkei puts with 10% of my money
>Literally trippled tonight
>I am up so much this is my best trading day ever
>Even the Puts and Calls I got this morning are just going sky high
AHAHA
PRAISE THE BEAR

>>17408959
Already too much in gold. Will stay out simply out of diversification,
Thanks for the info though

I.would.like.some humble credit for pushing short japan narrative.over the past four weeks in here except my positions will pay me for it already

>>17408995
11%ish jap puts

>>17408995
Considering premarket isn't open, i guess this would've been a good day to get the jump on US markets by going foreign.

Probably be priced in by the time we open, when everything gaps down.

AND I'M FREE
>FREE FALLING

>>17408296
>mfw he knew about italy before it happened
yeah, i'm thinking we're fucked

>>17408959
Is buying stock in a gold producing company the same as simply buying stock in gold, whom would be wanting more gold made during economic downfall

>investing.com down
uh oh. Feels kinda cozy watching this nightmare on ToS with a big storm outside tho, p cyberpunk

god i can not wait for my market sell orders to go through first thing.
can't wait to watch the world burn tomorrow with my morning coffee

>>17409059
it's up for me

>>17408152
>Losing money trading Ag
You'd literally have to be retarded, which I guess you are. Ag isn't a precious metal, and stores dwarf demand, which means price is 100% speculation. When Au goes crazy (which it will, as it is wont to do in such times) Ag will ride it's coattails as it gets to play pretend-PM, then crash to $5/oz. Easy Money.

>>17409010
Ive been shilling the short Japan since last week. Was mainly inspired by corona and Japan having a shit economy, not by anyone here.

Im also betting a small amount on the Yen falling, but just a little. Im not really experienced in trading currencies.
>>17409023
Im not betting against the US. Trump, Powell and the fact that foreign capital will run for US stocks and dollar make me stay away.
Im 70% sure it will drop even harder, but the markets are crazy right now.
>>17409037
It was in China, Korea, Japan, Germany and others before Italy tbf.

if the world doesn't end, we should hold 3100 no problem

I think the valuations we are seeing and panic getting priced in here is reasonable and healthy.
plenty of free room beneath us if the fear keeps piling on though.

>dow down 2% in futures

>>17409077
Kek dont underestimste butterfly effect

>>17409034

dow ends in the green today. Cheeto man will see it so.

>>17409055
No, many other variables.

I don't know if you're a friend of that guy, but he's clearly just here to shill his stock. Literally one post.

>>17409064
What the hell are you excited to sell?
You ENJOY selling into weakness?!

>>17409072
Where did I say I lost money? I bought the top in mid 2019 is all. Should be green now, but I didn't buy more because that sucked.

Interesting strategy, let me know when it's silver is about to crash.

>>17409113
>you excited to sell?
red lines are optional desu.
i'm gonna clear all my positions and dump into APT like an absolute chad

already 50 dead reported in Qom Iran.
it's mutated.

>>17409136

What on earth

>>17409136
Gonna buy lots of food super early before open

Alrdady got a big stockpile

Hey look!
SNOY is out with a new 5G phone!!
Maybe... don't crash my jap stocks even more plz?

>>17409144
Govs are hiding truth worldwide

Spanish flu was same

Directive to stop panic

>>17409113
>let me know when it's silver is about to crash.
When Au peaks. Again, pretend-PM.

>>17409136
Iran is going to get fucked. With all the sanction against Iran it has little resources to fight this epidemic

>>17409163
>>17409163
>>17409163

NEW
NEW
NEW

>>17409163
>>17409163
>>17409163

So can I profit from this obvious recession by buying SPY puts? Or do I need to short futures?

Gild long
Gild calls
Japan puts
Spy puts

Looks like im banking money at open

Hail the bear

When do I buy SPXL?

>>17407736
Always DB puts. Theres no reason not to. Even if only to spite them. Fuck DB.