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17262527 No.17262527 [Reply] [Original]

It is immoral to be rich. You guaranteed fucked someone over to get there and having mass excess that you will never use in your lifetime while people are literally starving is sociopathy. You can't deny this.

>> No.17262546

I dont care

>> No.17262554

>>17262527
I can. Because the economy is not a fixed pie. You don't win at the expense of someone else losing.

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>>17262527
morality is a spook, i will do as i please my property

>> No.17262569

ok. please name the people I fucked over

>> No.17262574
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>>17262546
You will when the revolution comes. The poor masses you shared no care for will show no care for you or your family. What do you think is going to happen when the majority are being sucked dry by you parasites? They will rise up

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I'M SORRY!!! BUT THIS IS A DOGGY DOG WORLD!!!

>> No.17262611

Wealth creation is not a zero-sum game if you live in a capitalist economy.

>> No.17262619

>>17262574
>when the majority
That's literally never happened and will never happen.
Revolutions are always by a small group. The majority just goes along with whoever wins and becomes the new ruler.
"Most people" are followers and submissive to authority by nature. If that wasn't the case and everyone actually thought for themselves, human society would never hold together.

>> No.17262634

>>17262527
>You guaranteed fucked someone over to get there
Simply not true, wealth is not zero-sum. People have much more wealth now on average than 250 years ago simply because more wealth was created.

>> No.17262656

>>17262574
Thats why we have porn and benzos to keep the poor happy

>> No.17262723

>>17262569
You fucked over millions of people by 0.00001%. Same way my taxes go to help millions of people 0.00001%. Repent.

>> No.17263040

>>17262611
Poor people fail to understand this. No wonder they are poor because they cannot grasp the basics of economics.

>> No.17263068

>>17262527
>It is immoral to be rich
yes it is, according to slave morality which is anti-natural and anti-human
it is also immoral to be white, strong, handsome, healthy, smart because there are many people who are nonwhite, weak, ugly, etc. This is unfair and unequal and the slaves demand their superiors lower themselves to their level

>> No.17263073

>>17262554

Actually this is wrong. A basic function of capitalism and human work outputs is that some people will have to slave away while others live like kings.

The no zero-sum argument ignores the basic time and energy required to build the goods and services our species uses and who will end up doing what.

>> No.17263096

>>17263073
Than why do I have a higer standard of living than any 16th cenury king, despite making 12 bucks an hour?

>> No.17263107

>>17263073
It has been that way since since the first civilization. Why should it be different now? Why do poorfags feel entitled to live like kings when they already live better than their ancestors?

>> No.17263112

>>17263096
go back

>> No.17263136

>>17263112
Youu first, commie

>> No.17263147

>>17263107
Because "rich" always means "richer than me", to these people. They have no gratitude. They have no appreciation for what they have, what they could have if they just exposed themselves to greater risks (i.e. doing what we're doing here, rather than working for a guaranteed wage). And they also have a lot of envy, while not giving two fucking shits about the poor. If they cared about the poor, literally all of them would be in The Congo right now, spreading their own personal wealth to the poor.

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>>17262527
Fuck you poorfags, you'd turn on me in an instant if you thought you could have what I have.

>> No.17263183

>>17262527
Incorrect, because voluntary interactions are positive-sum, i.e. win-win. However, when violence and aggression is involved, such as everything done and tainted by nation states, which these days is most aspects of society, it becomes win-lose, and people have to fuck each other over through psychopathy and sociopathy just like you describe.

>> No.17263221

>>17263068
Then why don't they build the goods and services for themselves?

>> No.17263341

>>17262527
Retard

>> No.17263374

>>17263112
Owned

>> No.17263396

>>17262527
I didn't tell 3rd worlders to go and have 10 kids a piece.

>> No.17263406

>>17263183
Overly general but still a based perspective

>> No.17263429

>>17263221
stupid niggers are incapable of building things so they have resentment towards those who are capable, who they declare as evil for having traits they don't have, i.e. white man bad

>> No.17263480

>>17262527
I would literally murder you for $5k if I wouldn't face jail time even though I already have $80k. Nobody gives a shit about you OP except maybe your own family.

>> No.17263487

>>17262527
It's immoral to be poor. You guaranteed let someone fuck you over and let them have excess mass that they will never use in their lifetime while you are literally starving is masochism. You can't deny this.

>> No.17263563

Generally poor people are poor because they let people walk all over them. Get over it OP. Humans kill, rape and manipulate to gain more resources over one another. There used to be nice humans but they were all killed or raped by our ancient ancestors. The "equality and love" bullshit is slave morality rich people like me peddle to the masses so they continue staying broke and with no women.

>> No.17263581

>>17262723
I pay my taxes though

>> No.17263602
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>>17263073
ok retard

>> No.17263639

>>17262527

Use your wealth for good instead of evil. This is how you influence and enact your will upon the world. It's your moral duty to be wealthy.

>> No.17263641

it is the governments job to keep everyone on a barely livable wage. if everyone was rich, then no one would be rich. so they focus on keeping everyone cucked, but doing everything in their power to keep themselves and their buddies rich. simple economics. being rich is determined at birth, by your parents. barely anyone is self made

>> No.17263653

>>17262554
>>17263096
Then why are you still poor?

>> No.17263662

>>17262527
>You cant deny this
Why would I? That is how life has worked since the first amoebas. The more life forms you fuck over for their resources, the more successful you are as a life form. Its not even immoral, its literally one of like 2 objectives you have in life as far as evolution is concerned. Have offspring, hoard resources. That’s literally all there is to life. All of your ancestors were more successful at doing this than average and its the only reason you exist. Morals are a human invention, created to cuck gullible rubes into dropping themselves out of the competition, so that the people who ignore morality can succeed even harder.

>> No.17263694

>>17263073
Wrong, rich people are net benefactors to society in most cases, or they are descendants of net benefactors.

>> No.17263857

>>17263653
My networth is 10k€ and I have 2 BTC.

>> No.17263866

>>17263653
But I'm not poor.

>> No.17263880
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>>17263602
there's no way no how china has less than 10% of its people living in extreme poverty in 2020. people not living in big cities are still farming to survive and eating rats. do not trust any numbers going out of china's ass, if they can't lift people out of poverty they either change the definition or simply omit those people.

>> No.17263896

>>17263880
>Wh*te "people"

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>>17263857
>My networth is 10k€ and I have 2 BTC.

>> No.17263926

>>17263866
>But I'm not poor.
Then why are you here?

>> No.17263928

>>17263880
Cope. Every country which adopted capitalism saw the same result.

>> No.17263967

>>17262574
>Power goes out
>Poor masses can't go on the internet and figure out the identities of a few million monied nobodies that can just as easily snitch on anyone they don't like

>> No.17263992

>>17263928
How come you didn't receive any of those "results"?

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>>17263896
yet they took humanity from not being able to fly to landing on the moon in 70 years

>>17263928
just saying that china is a bad example to prove a point

>> No.17264110

>>17262527
I don't care either. I would machine gun down 8000 starving peasant children if it would bump my portfolio up by 10%.

Actually scratch that I would do it for free.

>> No.17264159

>>17262527
>its immoral to be rich
That's stupid op, you should get what you give bare minimum.
>You fucked someone over to get there
Not necessarily people just believe in their whatever and invest what they have/want into it. services/trading something is not "fucking someone over" its a mutual agreement.
>having excess while people starve is sociopathy.
This is ops only point that is understandable but only if assuming what I have and what you don't are related. Capital is not always "stolen" it's "generated". People have not because of unfortunate circumstance and they do not.

>> No.17264161

>>17263908
Still nore than the average shitcoin trader has

>> No.17264184

>>17263880
> if they can't lift people out of poverty they either change the definition or simply omit those people.

What if they killed the deadweight? Say with a genetically engineered virus?

>> No.17264259

>>17262619
Causality reversal. It's the opposite that happens in a revolution; It's not a small group which does the revolution, but the masses which rebel and demonstrate, and then a small group capture the revolution and say it's theirs.
See october revolution (1917).

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>>17262527
It’s a fuck or be fucked world. I don’t give a shit about the moralities others developed, as I have my own shit to worry about.

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>>17264184
that could work

>> No.17264487

>>17263096
Increase in productivity doesn't mean you are not exploited. Workers are way more exploited today than at any time in history.
https://rpubs.com/jhuato/230638

>> No.17264635

>>17262527
I believe our species is a lost cause, an evolutionary dead end. The kind of world and human society I would be content with, the one I would consider good, fair and reasonable, is an impossibility from the evidence I have seen in my life so far. Thus, I have given up on being of service to human society, my plan is to build my castle, so to speak, and maintain limited contact with other people except my family and close friends. And no, i'm not a sociopath, I still have basic empathy and am generally good to people, just on a macro level I don't care anymore, hence your ethical query is not of concern to me.

>> No.17264969

>>17264635
I used to be poor and underemployed. Being slightly above 120-130 or so in IQ as an autist will do that to you. I used to try and gauge my co-workers and the people around me and how they responded to the world. They were so stupid and apathetic that I believe no peoples' revolution is possible. Once made it in the GBR I just stopped caring. It I was tired of being exploited and neither the left or the right seemed interested in my situation. Now I live for myself and tell others to fuck off. All the people who laughed at my "socialist" ideas suddenly had a real bad need for money. The people deserve to be exploited, I only wish the gifted and talented stuck in a bad situation got a brea

>> No.17265037

>>17262527
I would agree with this if I was poor. But I'm not, so fuck you and that sentiment.

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>>17262527
>you are a stranger in the society if ure rich
feelsalienman

>> No.17265383

>>17264110
based

>> No.17265667

A lot people refuse to work hard, save money and be patient. I know 30 y/o boomers living with their parents smoking weed, living pay check to pay check because they're not mature enough to get ahead and focus on momentary pleasures

>> No.17266391
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They'd do the same to you if the they were in the position. This is a dog eat dog world and if you aren't will to do what's necessary to win in this eternal struggle of life then you will be left behind.

>> No.17266470

>>17262574

They will be elimitated. Do you think the elites are going to allow themselves to be liquidated and their children ran sacked to allow a bunch of degenerate mongoloids to live off welfare, fuck uncontrollably and eat fast food? You will wiped out by a bio weapon.

>> No.17266711

>>17262527
Literally wipe out Africa. Watch billions of sand niggers disappear and suddenly the world requires a lot less food, electricity and goods. Stonks go down, because consoomer future reports claim that demand for everything will fall. Etc, etc.
This exponential population grows that happens right now? It's priced in, all the countries race against each other in importing cheap african wage slaves and out-shout each other in reporting their annual 'muh always growing GDP' which grows at the expense of your future children wealth and health.
You are doomed Anon, and so am I.

>> No.17266952

Why must people live by these mentalities? Why is a lack of empathy and compassion the standard here? What is this mercantilist thinking, this darwinian perception of society?

This is the type of thinking furthest removed from what it means to be human. If you truly hold the impoverished and non-whites in contempt, then YOU are more of a soulless, unthinking insectoid than any chink.

>> No.17266999

>>17266952

pajeet confirmed

>> No.17267029

>>17266999
>999
Reported t' ol' guvvner. Fer makin' colour'ds feel unwelcome.

>> No.17267137

>>17262611
It is if your government fails to understand and adopt post-keynesianism/MMT.

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>>17262527
The average wealth per capita in the world is $3. Feel free to redistribute your wealth OP

>> No.17267515

>>17267319

No, it's only the people richer than I am that are being unethical. I want to redistribute their wealth, not my own. Also, my net worth is -40,000 because I bought a Master's Degree in gender studies that means I'm smarter than you.

>> No.17267625

>>17262527
Society is immoral faggot

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>>17267319
kek at least make it a little believable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_financial_assets_per_capita

>> No.17268385

>>17262527
People fuck each other over even in interpersonal relationships.

>> No.17268466

>>17266391
How come that man with the funny mustache never fought? Wouldn't it be funny if people fell for whatever this coward believed?

>> No.17268487

>>17262527
Fuck off commie